/jp/ show and tell / catchall thread

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This thread is for sharing things you've recently been interested in that don't have their own thread or even that do have their own thread but you think should be shared with a wider audience. All subjects welcome as long as they're /jp/-related, from entire games and series to one-off images you found in your feed.

Long and autistic essays about why the recent thing was so great are encouraged if said thing was particularly niche and you think more people would appreciate it. Or even non-recent things you're a fan of and haven't found a place to discuss up until now.

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Fucking normalfags

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the kong has THREE threads

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I have been interested in natural language processing, a discipline that is about programming the computer to analyze text written in human languages, and I think I have found the perfect project for myself. I'll try to build a system that automatically detects greentext for the purpose of banning it from discussion boards.

I miss /prog/.

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>>20061191
Have you studied forensic linquistics at all?

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>>20061191
>a system that automatically detects greentext for the purpose of banning it from discussion boards

You can just use the filter to hide any post that has a > in it at the beginning of a sentence.

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>>20061238
No. I've studied the basics of linguistics, but I am programmer. Would forensic linguistics help me?
>>20061240
>You can just use the filter to hide any post that has a > in it at the beginning of a sentence.
That's a very coarse filter, only a little better than forbidding all > quoting. What I want is to make a filter that is unobtrusive and produces a minimize of false positives. I think a good place to start is detecting sequences of quoted imperative sentences (and some extra-pleb giveaways, like ">be me").

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>>20061319
I meant, "I am a programmer". I actually no some grammer.

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>>20061319
Yes anything requiring non AI text recognition and mitigation should have more than a passing familiarity in FL concepts.

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>>20061682
Sounds interesting. Can you recommended a beginner's textbook in FL?

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I have an obsession of reading non h doujinshi and Im sure many others here read a lot too. Im a pleb who doesnt know japanese but even so there are so many translated ones that are worth sharing and discussing with /jp/. 4komas would be nice too.
A dump like /a/ does to manga sometimes is what Im talking about. We could read it together since I dont have any friends. I cant do it because my upload speed is ridiculous (like 100Kbps sometimes less)

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>>20068325
>since I dont have any friends
Get some

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>>20068835
I'll try

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>>20068325
Dump them anyway. A slow doujinshi dump is fine too.
Resize and compress the images if you really have to.

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ive been delving deeper and deeper into the shitty rabbit hole that is cookie and i feel like im past the point where i can turn back

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>>20061088
She needs MORE

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>>20069703
I still don’t know what cookie is

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>>20068325
If there's something you really want dumped you can suggest it here and there's a nonzero chance I'll do it, I have a real internet and my dark bargain with the imageboard jew means it's easier for me than most others.

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>>20069703
tell me about cookie, anon

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>>20070047
Thanks but I will try and see how it goes. Managed to find a good one that the files are not so big. Just starting it might breathe some life into this board >>20070105

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>>20070122
its entirely fascinating is what it is. an entire subculture from touhou and NND thats morphed entirely into its own thing.
for a long time now, theyve built up enough original content from inside jokes and their own brand of shitty memes that the only way its related to touhou is superficially. thats not even getting into all the drama, and stalking, and doxxing that have gone on with most of the amateur voice actresses. only reason why i somehow started getting into cookie was because at some point otoMADs all started using cookie samples

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I don't suppose that there's anyone here other than me capable of caring about this given what appears to be a staggeringly low proportion of people in /jp/ who are both interested in Kancolle and know Japanese, but before it ends I just want to plug one of my favorite MMD story series, "Type-Zero Affection Level Measurement Tool."

The tl;dr of it is that Yuubari invented a device for measuring the level of affection someone has for someone else, which is then promptly used as a wrecking ball to gratuitously smash social relationships between sisters and fleets and just about everything else you could think of, as friendships are revealed as empty shams, love triangles are exposed, and ships that nobody loves gradually lose their will to live while everyone else looks on in mild discomfort.

Even if you only know the characters from derivative work (or even, god forbid, the anime) or quit Kancolle four years ago it's still a fun watch because the whole thing is one big slow-motion trainwreck.
Some early selections (most recent is 42-1, which will unfortunately be the last in the series):

【MMD艦これ】夕張「できましたよ提督！零式好感度測定機です！」
#1 Series Start: https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28119685
#5 Kagerou-class: https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28464631
#6 Mogami-class: https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28566643
#10 Mutsuki-class: https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29761566

The Mogami-class one is in particular a complete dumpster fire. One day I may have time to typeset it, but not this year. It's possible that you might find it interesting even without knowing the characters well (maybe even at all?) so I hope that despite the odds maybe someone in /jp/ will be interested enough to have a look.

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I don't suppose that there's anyone here other than me capable of caring about this given what appears to be a staggeringly low proportion of people in /jp/ who are both interested in Kancolle and know Japanese, but before it ends I just want to plug one of my favorite MMD story series, "Type-Zero Affection Level Measurement Tool." The tl;dr of it is that Yuubari invented a device for measuring the level of affection someone has for someone else, which is then promptly used as a wrecking ball to gratuitously smash social relationships between sisters and fleets and just about everything else you could think of, as friendships are revealed as empty shams, love triangles are exposed, and ships that nobody loves gradually lose their will to live while everyone else looks on in mild discomfort.

Even if you only know the characters from derivative work (or even, god forbid, the anime) or quit Kancolle four years ago it's still a fun watch because the whole thing is one big slow-motion trainwreck. Some early selections (most recent is 42-1, which will unfortunately be the last in the series):

【MMD艦これ】夕張「できましたよ提督！零式好感度測定機です！」
#1 Series Start: https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28119685
#5 Kagerou-class: https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28464631
#6 Mogami-class: https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28566643
#10 Mutsuki-class: https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29761566

#6is in particular a complete dumpster fire. It's possible that you might find it interesting even without knowing the characters well (maybe even at all?) so I hope that despite the odds maybe someone in /jp/ will be interested enough to have a look.

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I don't suppose that there's anyone here other than me capable of caring about this given what appears to be a staggeringly low proportion of people in /jp/ who are both interested in Kancolle and know Japanese, but before it ends I just want to plug one of my favorite MMD story series, "Type-Zero Affection Level Measurement Tool." The tl;dr of it is that Yuubari invented a device for measuring the level of affection someone has for someone else, which is then promptly used as a wrecking ball to gratuitously smash social relationships between sisters and fleets and just about everything else you could think of, as friendships are revealed as empty shams, love triangles are exposed, and ships that nobody loves gradually lose their will to live while everyone else looks on in mild discomfort.

Even if you only know the characters from derivative work (or even, god forbid, the anime) or quit Kancolle four years ago it's still a fun watch because the whole thing is one big slow-motion trainwreck. Some early selections (most recent is 42-1, which will unfortunately be the last in the series):

【MMD艦これ】夕張「できましたよ提督！零式好感度測定機です！」
#1 Series Start: https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28119685
#5 Kagerou-class: https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28464631
#6 Mogami-class: https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28566643
#10 Mutsuki-class: https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29761566

#6 is in particular a complete dumpster fire. It's possible that you might find it interesting even without knowing the characters well (maybe even at all?) so I hope that despite the odds maybe someone in /jp/ will be interested enough to have a look.

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>>20071222
If you talk about cookie, then its only logical that you're gonna talk about inmu, right? do you know what does 114514 means, and where does the greeting "Vagina! (welcoming)" actually came from? is it cookie or inmu?

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>>20072690
and no, this isnt interrogating you or anything, im just as lost as you do and cant figure out these thing.

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>>20072690
>>20072707
INMU is just nico nico and 2ch culture blending in with cookie due to both being subjects of mockery and INMUfags forcing themselves into everything. i cant exactly tell you the origins of either of those but i think "Vagina!" most likely came from INMU. at this point ive learned to just accept whatever they throw at me because to get the joke youd literally have to go through every MAD that uses it since they all reference each other

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I hope some /jp/esies are still lifting regularly after the Fitocracy thing years ago. Billy's death hit me harder that I expected this year and I am getting back on the lifting train.

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>>20072690
Im not him but do you mean "tadaimanko"/"okaerinko" or something like that? I dont know japanese and I know only 20% of inmu/cookie but thats a 2ch meme iirc

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I have a Twitter account for the purpose of following Japanese military Otakus.

They are extremely dedicated to their craft.

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>>20072690
114514 = いいよ来いよ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SI3zzTyai4

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>>20073131
>>20073378
holy shit thanks. consider me enlightened

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I have a long time dream of going to Japan and creating a doujin with some not known artist and releasing it at Comiket. However this is fairly unrealistic since the only thing I'd bring is my amazing fetishes and ideas (ones that I can't draw) and some funding but nothing else. Hardly any different from making a commission. Maybe it'd be different if I befriended an amateur artist first.

In general, the culture behind creating doujin content is interesting. I'd like to know a lot more about how doujin circles and producers work and the culture surrounding all of it, but I don't know where to find sources about it. I sincerely hope the passion driven and self funded self publishing isn't like corporate backstabbing beneath the surface.

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>>20073783
If you don't know Japanese, you'd better start learning. I don't think the vast majority of doujin culture is accessible to non-speakers; nobody cares enough to translate most stuff and there's no real central "canonical text" of doujin culture that you can wait for to be translated.

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>>20074104

I do know Japanese but not at sufficient level to just pick up a newspaper and understand it 90%, or speak fluently about complex issues. After visiting Japan for first time I understood how you can never truly enjoy or appreciate the county and culture so I began studying it on my own. Doujin culture very much falls under that.

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>>20074119

I do know Japanese but not at sufficient level to just pick up a newspaper and understand it 90%, or speak fluently about complex issues. After visiting Japan for first time I understood how you can never truly enjoy or appreciate the county and its culture without knowing the language so I began studying it on my own.

One of the reasons for that was walking through Akiba and seeing hundreds of manga series that I'd never hear of even through internet, and even if I found them, they wouldn't be translated. Doujin culture even more so falls under that same problem.

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>>20074104

I do know Japanese but not at sufficient level to just pick up a newspaper and understand it 90%, or speak fluently about complex issues. After visiting Japan for first time I understood how you can never truly enjoy or appreciate the county and its culture without knowing the language so I began studying it on my own.

One of the reasons for that was walking through Akiba and seeing hundreds of manga series that I'd never hear of even through internet, and even if I found them, they wouldn't be translated. Doujin culture even more so falls under that same problem.

However my interests in Japan are more varied than that, which is good, since I barely even watch anime anymore. If I studied just for accessing manga and anime, my motivation would inevitably die off.

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>>20073757
YJSPNI has now enlightened you with his powers. Use them wisely

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Do we not have doujin game/touhou fangame threads anymore? Even that Dota mod stopped getting threads. What have you /jp/sies been playing? I just got through Age of Ethanols and Lotuscraft and they're both really fun, catchy music too. I wish RTS games were more popular.

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>>20074158
I'm not going to call myself an expert on doujin culture by any stretch of the imagination but I do at least have a voyeuristic perspective on it that I've gained just by making a list of all my favorite doujin artists and following them on Twitter. It's probably better than nothing. It does make you feel like a bit of a potato watching a lively community of creators interacting with each other while you sit on your ass at home doing nothing.

>>20074649
The Touhoumon threads get made from time to time and people still play those but there's a lot less than there were. Not as much community left to all pile onto one game and chat about it for days.

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>>20074649
/vg/ absorbed them.

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RCT-488
If you could make a /jp/ movie, this would be it.

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Every once in a while I see Japanese google street view threads. I like to look around in street view nearly every night before bed. It helps me wind down and I sometimes see some comfy things. I wish the street view threads were more common/popular.
That's all thank you.

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Some faces from doujinshi I wanted to use but haven't had a reason to

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>>20076726

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>>20076728

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This is from an idol thread but it says "weeb" on it so it is funny.

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This is not at all /jp/ but I like the look they are giving each other and feel it is somehow /jp/ relevant.

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The crossroads of destiny.

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Please don't die yet.
I have an interesting nitori doujin from local convention and it is pretty good.
Currently at work, I'll post the cover later.

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>>20074876
>It does make you feel like a bit of a potato watching a lively community of creators interacting with each other while you sit on your ass at home doing nothing.
I have this same feeling with other communities. There is an English community for the thing I'm interested in, but I have gone to the local events and never felt like I was really a part of it. I kind of just watch from the outskirts while the groups of friends or people who talk in discord do the same in real life. They use inside jokes and stupid memes that I don't find amusing at all. When I went to the Japan and interacted with their communities for the same hobby, it had a totally different feel and I liked it a lot more. Then when I get home, all I can do is read all of them talking about local stuff on twitter and wish I was there. Sure, I could do hop in and make some comments and get some replies, but at the end of the day they don't have a real connection with me because I'm not someone that frequently meets up with them, they just take pity on me as someone entirely removed from the actual community.

So in the end I don't feel like I'm a part of the English community, or the Japanese one.

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>>20088336
The title is Little Kappa.
Its content formatted like a story book and it is pretty good.
I want to translate it but I'm not native English speaker and it might be take times to finish (´・ω・｀)

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>>20090440
Sample page.

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The point of this comic was definitely not to make you want to be a salaryman (female) but fortunately we live in a world where you get to project whatever you want onto anything you want.

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>>20094085

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>>20094090

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>>20094097
Fin.

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>>20073122
Lmao
No

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I'm looking forward to the new Haruhi light novel/short story.
I'm kind of sad that there's no significant western interest in the series anymore
That's all

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>>20068325
Give me a couple of doujins you want translated and I'll choose one.
>>20069703
You don't wanna keep going.
Anyways, this artist I follow suddenly did a live broadcast about cookie for some goddamn reason, check it.
lv316376076

>>20088336
>>20090440
>>20090487
>local convention

Pretty interesting. Please post more. What convention and what country? Are most of the circles touhou related?
I'm guessing it's Indonesian.

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>>20088729
What's your native language anon?

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Does anyone else have a passion for low budget J punk/noise ? I have downloaded every Hasami Group album I can but the first 5 records I can't find. Their music is sometimes horrible but in a good way. They make something for everyone. Hardcore punk (with AMAZING bass riffs that rival dead kennedys to me), electro pop, rap, hikkikomori themes, and weird noise songs. The best part of Jap music is that as you slowly learn more vocabulary, the lyrics to songs slowly piece together. This is even more true with Hasami Group who has poorly translated lyrics / no lyrics written at all.

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>>20095529
>The best part of Jap music is that as you slowly learn more vocabulary, the lyrics to songs slowly piece together.
This is the worst part for me.

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I like gibberish english.

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I understand what you mean. Mystery is always better than reality.

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>>20095529
https://youtu.be/sUo9ERzI1PY
Not close to the genre you want (豚乙女 originals would be pretty underground, though), but your point about learning the meaning of songs slowly really made me remember this song.

でももういい大人
手首は切らない
痛いの嫌だから！

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>>20095414
>What convention and what country?
Comifuro, an Indonesian doujin circle convention. Usually held twice a year around January-March and August-September when coincide with uni holiday season.
>Are most of the circles touhou related?
No, but the booths are grouped together based on the fandom. Every time I visit the convention basically it group into mobage stuff (Kancolle, F/GO, GBF, etc), Touhou stuff, seasonal anime stuff, yuri and yaoi stuff, western stuff (DC, Marvel, etc), KPop/idol stuff, and original stuff.

Initially it was pretty good convention though recently it turned into normalfags weeb convention that most circle end up on selling posters, keychains, and other stuff that normalfags will buy. Fortunately, I still can manage to found hidden gems every time I visit there.

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>>20096270
Oops, I forgot some of the stuff.

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>>20096276
Other non Touhou stuff (and 2 Touhou CDs at the bottom).

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>>20088729
I feel like that's just something happens when you decide you're going to learn a little bit of Japanese and "step up." You can never actually ingratiate yourself with your Japanese overlords but at the same time you start to feel more and more alienated from a Western community that stays the same age while you grow older.

I do think that someone who engages primarily in digital creation could become a full-fledged member of the "community" while living entirely in the West but that's an extremely high bar, way higher than the just-show-up-and-talk-with-people-tier that Japanese have access to just by showing up to the right events and interacting. I actually do know people who have moved just for their hobbies, but that's, well... a step that I don't know if I'd ever take. I have thought about it, but thinking and doing are miles apart.

Hopefully one day you find a place where you can feel at home.

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I recently reread my favorite visual novel and it's just as good as I remember.

Always nice to go back and look over something.

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>>20096270
>>20096276
Raids from conventions makes me sad. So many doujinshi not scanned, so many music not uploaded, so many things we can't get.

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>>20096270
>>20096276
>>20096292
I thought the Indonesian government was cracking down on lewds to appease HiT niggers

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>>20096270
>>20096276
>>20096292
Had no idea something like this existed, these are really cool. Nice loot anon.

That torn out page is from the same artist who drew this too. Seeing stuff like this, does it strike anyone as odd with how much Westerners seem to have trouble emulating anime/manga art styles in comparison to other countries?

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I've been enjoying these kinds of videos: https://youtu.be/P6-Eep2Ftms
It's pretty fun to see people gushing about their favorite characters using the Devilman opening and the variations of the meme.

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>>20061191
>I miss /prog/.
Thank you for reminding me of this ``board".

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>>20105125
every thread will be replied to
no exception

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>>20061088
she has the entire website

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>>20103649
This was interesting.
Post more anon.

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>>20068325
>>20069364
Or upload them as an archive to something like mixtape.moe and have another anon dump them for you. I volunteer to do the first 20.

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>>20109484
Another one I liked was https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm33724426 , and the correct tag for these kinds of videos seems to be ジャガーマンシリーズシリーズ外伝 on Nico.

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>>20094085
>>20094090
>>20094097
>>20094102
Cute.
>>20094085
>salaryman (female)
Is "salarywoman" a word?

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>>20095529
>bass riffs that rival dead kennedys
You have my attention. Could you post an example?

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>>20105125
Baguette loafs.

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I wrote up an outline for a 50 page non-H doujinshi, but I can't draw for shit. Any advice on finding like minded people interested in producing content like this?

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>>20112949
Chiebukuro says that the term salarywoman came into use for a little while during the prewar era but that it's a completely dead word now. These days it's all just salarymans.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SW7Jl0XgZU

I've been enjoying his streams recently.

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>>20113263
Chances are slim that an artist just agrees to work with you on your first doujin that's 50 fucking pages long. Consider repurposing your outline into one for a modestly illustrated LN, hiring someone to illustrate it and seeking feedback. If it's good, you may find willing collaborators.

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>>20116475
I meant feedback from the fans of the original work. The goal is to establish your reputation as a writer.

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I wish textboards were popular outside of Japan

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>>20116711
just hit up gamefaqs bro

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Lately I have been trying to get into sumo after reading Hinomaru Sumo. I watch NHK highlights of tournaments on youtube. It's kinda fun. Hakuho is cool. Wrestlers from the same stable don't fight each other, right? What happens if they are tied for the championship?

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>>20116711
You mean forums?

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I've often wondered if we really enjoy otaku culture, or if we enjoy it because it grants us membership in a community that we're comfortable participating in.

With that said, would we continue to enjoy the franchises we like if we had no one to discuss them with? This includes lurking discussions, watching vlogs/reviews on youtube and reading news articles. Would it still be enjoyable if it was just you and what's on your hard drive?

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>>20120968
I enjoy video games, comics, and occasionally animation that happen to be made in Japan.

>would we continue to enjoy the franchises we like if we had no one to discuss them with?
Most of the stuff I like no one else probably knows about, let alone likes. Who the hell likes something to be part of a community? Girls?

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>>20120968
>I've often wondered if we really enjoy otaku culture, or if we enjoy it because it grants us membership in a community that we're comfortable participating in.
That might just be you.

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>>20121068
>Who the hell likes something to be part of a community?
To be more specific, I believe that a lot of otaku get continued enjoyment from their favourite media through the stimulation provided by community engagement long after the novelty of the original product has worn off. The only exception I can think of to this hypothesis is H manga
>>20121160
>That might just be you.
Let's face it, there are a lot of people like me here. /jp/ would be as fast as /ota/ if it were composed of people who desire no social interaction with people who like the same things we do.

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>>20121715
You're just projecting.

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>>20121977
>You're just projecting.
How else can you explain the behaviour of a group of people who enjoy posting the same things and playing the same games over and over?

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>>20122009
That they genuinely enjoy those things? What's wrong with playing the same game over and over?

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>>20122256
>What's wrong with playing the same game over and over?
Nothing inherently wrong with it, but this behaviour isn't common, even among otaku.

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>>20122284
>Replaying games you like over and over isn't common
Maybe in this modern generation of games with no substance or replay value.

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>>20122318
So you're conceding to my point in >>20121715 then:
>I believe that a lot of otaku get continued enjoyment from their favourite media through the stimulation provided by community engagement long after the novelty of the original product has worn off.

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>>20122611
No, I'm saying new games suck. Go play some old ones to see why people would play games over again.

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>>20123012
I believe you're trying to change the topic at this point.
I will continue this discussion when you have something of substance to contriubte.

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>>20123012
why do I keep playing souls games then?

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I was considering typesetting translated doujins from danbooru and uploading it on sadpanda and a blog. But its kind of redundant and feels like stealing other peoples work. What do you think?

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>>20125464
As long as you don't sell it and properly credit the translator in a page of notes added at the end, you should be fine.
It's worth it if you also upload and host a torrent. Makes downloading easier.

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>>20116475
Rather than trimming it down to a 30 page one shot, you think I should turn it into a single volume LN? I feel like it isn't suited for a light novel format.

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>>20120968
This seems like the case with Twitter weebs, but not for /jp/.

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>>20120968
All communities become more and more about themselves and meta shit unless they actively fight to stay on-topic. If you are familiar with LW/SSC, you'll find a lot of words about this sort of thing there.
>Would it still be enjoyable if it was just you and what's on your hard drive?
Depends on the kind of scenario that would happen in. I would deal with it stoically if I were in prison or stuck in a bunker in a nuclear winter.

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>>20116825
>>20120897
People aren't (mostly) anonymous on those though

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>>20121715
>a lot of otaku get continued enjoyment from their favourite media through the stimulation provided by community engagement long after the novelty of the original product has worn off
This is obviously true. Craving for more simulation related to the original product fuels the doujin scene.
>>20121977
>>20122256
>>20122318
>>20123012
Looks like >>20121715 struck a nerve for some reason.

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>>20121715
Otaku media is a bunch of different things, it's not one whole thing you'll get bored of after 15 minutes unless you only had a shallow interest to begin with. People are social animals, even the most introverted, and like to communicate. But you're mixing up the causality here. People (with genuine interests) like to talk about the things they like, they don't like things for the sake of having something to talk about.

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>>20126889
read the sequences

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>>20127011
I have.

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There's a bit of an otokonoko/crossdressing scene on twitter, though foreigners have started using the tags too (#女装 #男の娘). Anybody know other good sites for this kind of content?

>>20112949
OL is probably what you'd use most of the time.

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>>20127249
You might want to ask the kigurumi thread. It is not the same thing, but it is related.

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>>20126940
Everyone likes something initially because it suits their fancy. But for most people, in an antisocial vacuum, the novelty eventually wears off and you move onto the next thing. The remaining 1% consists of the truly obsessed, which is admirable but still rare.

At the end of the day if you have three hobbies, two of which you can talk with other human beings about and one of which you can't (or don't want to interact with the community for), the one which you can't talk about will slowly drop out of the running or at least fade into the background. In the last ~10 years or so I can already name a whole lot of personal interests which migrated to the backburner because I ceased to enjoy interacting with the community.

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>>20127011
read /ratanon/

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>>20127357
october is almost over, maybe there is a post this month

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>>20127440
there have been a few. the posts about the hologram girl are pretty interesting and basically explain the appeal of vtubers.

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>>20127343
The problem is you're treating otaku media as a single thing when there's hundreds of thousands, if not millions of pieces of media that fall under this category. It's broad enough that you're not necessarily doomed to get bored of the whole thing quickly or even at all. Personally I don't interact much with communities outside of sometimes shitposting on /jp/ or reading other people's thoughts about something I like, and while it's normal to not keep an interest in everything you initially like, I've only felt that for things way more specific than "otaku culture" so I can't really relate to what you're saying there.

In the age of the internet, there's not really aby hobby you can't talk to others about anymore if you really desire to anyway.

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>>20127523
actually that kind of sophistry is one of the things I hate about ```intellectual,,, internet discourse where people try very hard to to sound profound and prolifically namedrop things
the same gradient as an r/iamverysmart post (iq 100), but at different scales, so orange site (iq 120) and ratspaces (iq 135)
they just get better at dressing up their vacuousness

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>>20127857
are you complaining about the overdone writing style or do you think it is wrong on the object level? it's very plausible to me that there is a common denominator to the appeal of that "hit or miss" video, cosplay in general, vtubers and traps (crossdressers, not transsexuals). none of them even pretends that the role they play is a plausible representation of a real person, which lets them create a performance they couldn't otherwise have created. they are cartoonish exaggerations and that's why people like their content.

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>>20127249
An OL isn't the same thing. OLs are more like secretaries. It's the same kind of non-job as elevator ladies or greeters at walmart. There are female equivalent to salarymen who have actual real jobs with responsibilities but I forgot the word.

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>>20128019
>elevator ladies
Is this still a thing?

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>>20127977
I haven't seen whatever post you're referring to but the impression I'm getting from your conversation is that the article is basically "people like to play pretend" dressed up with 10,000 words to sound smart.

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>>20128100
it isn't an article, just several imageboard posts. can't link to the thread directly.
https://pastebin.com/rw1NpgW7

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>>20069703
Would you fap to cookie /jp/?
https://exhentai.org/g/1060144/5bd58f4017/

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>>20127343
I disagree, not being fully invested from the get-go in one thing is certainly a common occurrence and also not everything that catches your eye produces a really deep desire to pursue it to the utmost depths of knowledge. However, once you do find "that" one thing that compels you beyond belief having someone to talk about it or not doesn't really matter as in the end hobbies are for the enjoyment of the person that has them. And if you want to talk about them it's mostly because you have this thing that fills you with joy and want to share it with someone in the hopes that they might find such joy themselves in it rather than using it as a tool to not be alone in which case your primary desire was the interaction to people to begin with.

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>>20126930
>This is obviously true. Craving for more simulation related to the original product fuels the doujin scene.
I would personally be interested to know how common "travel report" dojins are within the larger dojinshi subculture. Mizuki Hitoshi has well over 16,000 followers on twitter alone, and all he does is draw a daily comic blog with cookie-style touhou avatars.
Perhaps, at that point, a fan has effectively abandoned the actual franchise and only maintained its trappings to facilitate community socializing (as >>20126889 mentioned)

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>>20128255
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=sorry_carl
yeah

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>>20128649
>However, once you do find "that" one thing that compels you beyond belief
I honestly doubt that most people are able to find something that is so compelling it can provide years upon years of stimulation and enjoyment without having to interact with anyone else.
>rather than using it as a tool to not be alone in which case your primary desire was the interaction to people to begin with.
You appear to conceive of interest/involvement in a hobby as something that stays static. I am arguing that, for the vast majority of people (including most "otaku") that investment declines over time as the hobby/franchise no longer continuously yields completely fresh experiences. I know several people who got into modding, fansubbing and other creative otaku hobbies. Eventually, the creative activity itself became less stimulating over time, but they continued to pursue it because they socialized with close friends mainly through the hobby.

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>>20128776
Depending on how loosely you define interaction, as the original poster did, people can't even stay sane without some form of interaction, it's a necessary part of life. If you're gonna be interacting anyway, seems natural to involve stuff you like.

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>>20128776
People like that were never otaku. They're just posers.

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>>20128710
>Mizuki Hitoshi has well over 16,000 followers on twitter alone, and all he does is draw a daily comic blog with cookie-style touhou avatars.
In the last two years, he's put out three "real" doujinshi: one Touhou book, one KF book, and one MiA book. This is not stellar production for a well-known circle who can (with great effort) dump out two new books per Comiket, but this is on top of drawing his random diary shit every day. Also, fucker's almost fifty. As for Touhou Project itself, the notion that someone "abandons the franchise" by failing to produce doujinshi for it is nonsense: by that metric, there aren't any Touhou fans in the entirety of /jp/ since none of us* have ever sold anything at Comic Market.

* I can think of a couple /jp/sies over the years who have produced for Comiket, but I doubt any of them are in this thread.

>>20128649
I've been searching for that "one thing" for around a decade and haven't found it yet. Not all otaku fixate on one thing forever. Most of them move on like everyone else after having reconsumed everything the old thing has to offer for the fifteenth time.

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>>20128804
No true otaku.

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>>20128776
>they continued to pursue it because they socialized with close friends mainly through the hobby
You describe a very common pattern. It's why generals about a dead franchise degenerate into "what did you have for dinner?" namefag/avatarfag chatrooms and get booted off their board being 95% offtopic. It's also the history of moot's relationship with 4chan.

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>>20076728
>Doremi doujin
Shame on you

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>>20121715
>from their favourite media through the stimulation provided by community engagement long after the novelty of the original product has worn off.
I get that. I reread touhou mangas to see some things I might have missed, and that excites me to share it with other jpsies and hear their thoughts on it. Half of my enjoyment in rereading comes from my engagement with other people.

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>>20128893
Cute, not pedo
https://nhentai.net/g/223620/

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>>20128776
>able to find something that is so compelling it can provide years upon years of stimulation and enjoyment without having to interact with anyone else

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>>20128255
this one was better
https://exhentai.org/g/1234264/441ffed41d/

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>>20129235
Even that super-autist felt the need to periodically enter the community to discuss his project.

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>>20128826
>Most of them move on like everyone else after having reconsumed everything the old thing has to offer for the fifteenth time.

An unfortunate truth. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but all develop cataracts over time, and can no longer see the beauty, or it has faded significantly. Man that was a shitty analogy.

It happens in general as well, not just for specific things. My standards for pretty much all entertainment media are much higher than they were 10 years ago, and as I result I enjoy things less than I did. Even if something is crap, does that make it wrong to enjoy it? I think it's sad. Such is the price of judgement and experience.

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>>20129235
What always baffles me is those people who get obsessed over a random autist or troll and start screaming in all caps in the thread "ITS YOU GET THE FUCK OUT" when they see said anon.

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>>20129468
Weird, for me the more media I consume the more I felt the "standards" I had were limiting and pretentious, and just let myself enjoy things for what they are.

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>>20129468
>>20128951
>>20128826
>>20128793
This is the unfortunate conclusion that I was afraid this conversation would lead to, given that my favourite fandom is slowly being gentrified by normalfags who live on social media and have borderline template conversations/arguments that repeat day after day.

The only viable solution I can think of is to learn Japanese and try to migrate over to the Japanese community, but as >>20100947 has said it is hard to be anything other than someone looking in from the outside.

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>>20129448
People seem to be taking the whole "you don't need to talk about it" literally. The entire point of a hobby is your enjoyment or whatever you get to feel by doing it, be it either fun, joy, your assortment of vicarious experiences, spiritual fulfillment, etc. Of course given our human nature we'll still want to socialize and talk about the stuff we like so much, or sharing such joy with like-minded people but they're not a vital point of the enjoyment of the thing, unless the people were already planning to use the "hobby" for other purposes like a musician creating songs in a pursuit for fame rather than for the love of music or the pleasure derived by making stuff in your head become a reality and such, in which case you can bet you need a community of sorts (of course we're missing a bit on the side that there are many ways to enjoy a certain thing, like the pleasure of watching someone entranced by your music but I'll leave that aside for now).
And addressing >>20128776 and >>20128826 points, while hobbies aren't static they most likely get more richer or experience a shift over time to similar things, e.g. you originally like to take photos of plants, then move to small animals, then become engrossed in professional photography, now you also love landscapes and keep dancing around different cameras and learn their fine differences and details, then discover you can zoom enough to take photos Saturn, now you buy a telescope and keep on going to unknown ends. On the way you might make friends, create a network of specialists, fans, whatever but they are secondary at the end of the day to the thing you enjoyed and that's the whole point of liking something and if degenerates to a point where you don't really like something anymore or at all better to move to other thing as otherwise you're just losing your time with a dead horse when you could use that same time enjoying other stuff.

Aaannd since I don't know how I ended writing about all that above might as well share something I found interesting although it might be pushing it a bit on if it's /jp/ material at all but that's one precious cat if I say so. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0odN1ybvoo

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>>20130058
>Of course given our human nature we'll still want to socialize and talk about the stuff we like so much, or sharing such joy with like-minded people but they're not a vital point of the enjoyment of the thing, unless the people were already planning to use the "hobby" for other purposes
>On the way you might make friends, create a network of specialists, fans, whatever but they are secondary at the end of the day to the thing you enjoyed
The point I was trying to make in >>20128776 was that you can pick up a hobby with no initial intentions on using the hobby as a medium for socializing, but have social activity eventually become an integral part of your experience with the hobby.

For instance, someone might enjoy reading a particular series of light novels and its various spin-offs. I'll call them Light Novel Series Alpha. In the beginning, the fan probably torrents the derivative anime adaptation or reads the manga, and really enjoys it. Discussion may enhance the experience but, as you said, the fan community is ancillary and unnecessary to enjoy the hobby. However, as the fan seeks out more content and decides to read the original LNs, start buying merchandise or even participating in constructing a doujin project of some sort, interaction with the fan community becomes less optional and more necessary to continually enjoy the hobby.

Overtime, the fan is trained to associate the medium (the hobby) with an additional associated message (positive social interaction). Socializing becomes an integral part of the experience, and might eventually eclipse the original hobby as the fan's reason for participating in the group. The fansub group might even get bored of Series Alpha and move on to translating JRPGs or virtual youtubers. Again, this can all happen without any prior intent for events to unfold in such a fashion.

I agree with the rest of your post.

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Is there anyone else who's tried out every aspect of /jp/ culture or at least a lot of it? I wasn't trying to checking off a list, it just kind of happened.

I've played Touhou and a lot of the fangames, Umineko, other /jp/ games like meltan, and play rhythm games both at home and in the arcade. I own various fumos, onaholes, JAV, figures, dakimakura, doujin manga, doujin music, Vocaloid music, etc. I've attended Japanese music concerts (not just idol groups), met ZUN and other /jp/ relevant people like milk, and either witnessed live or was partly responsible for several /jp/ memes. I studied Japanese for a while, contributed towards making a VN on /jp/project and even taught myself mahjong just to participate in the threads here. I don't why, but I feel like I haven't changed these past 10 years even though everything else has.

Also I got really sad all of a sudden because I remembered when my best chance of meeting Aniki was and I missed it, and he's gone now.

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>>20100947
i met a jp guy online who turned out to actually be american and has just been pretending to be japanese, he's spoken the language for like 20+ years. follow ur dreams

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>>20129448
At that point the only people who satisfy the criteria are people that are super into being hermits in the mountains.

>>20129585
They're no different than people that get angry at you for liking anime or not believing in God or that sort of attitude. The word to avoid is normalfag, but that's what they are.

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I envy you.

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>>20129235
dorf fort would be much better than terraria if youre alone.

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>>20131636
Dwarf Fort gets boring pretty quick honestly.

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>>20130602
I'm not at your level of wizardry, but I could say my situation is similar. That said, I think it's mostly my fault for being a boring jack of all trades with literally no passions or true skills and not the fault of /jp/ or otaku culture in general.

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>>20096270

I need you to post more of that Kappa book and more of Comifuro.

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https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15617889 Found this old series a few months ago. This is just a random episode, but it seems like there's a lot of this and other series the creator made. I haven't properly gotten into them, but there's something about the models that's kinda cute in a PS1 kinda way and I never heard so many variants of the softalk voice. Some of the younger ones are really cute.

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>>20130602
I am in a very similar situation aside from a few of those points.

I've only been here for 7 years so probably not as long as some, but /jp/ sure feels different now.

>I haven't changed these past 10 years even though everything else has
This hits really close to home.

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>>20138629
I feel like an old punk in 1988. Most of my friends are dead from heroin overdoses or AIDS and the subculture of my youth has been dumbed down and repackaged into something you can order through the mail for $50.

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>>20139886
>subculture of my youth has been dumbed down and repackaged into something you can order through the mail for $50.
That's a kind of strange comparison since ("anime" related stuff)otakudom is basically a fandom based around glorified toy ads.

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>>20140778
Only kid anime is for toy selling though.

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>>20140778
I had the ahegao bootleg hoodies in mind when I wrote that.

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>>20140778
Most anime are glorified manga/LN/game ads, get it right.

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>>20141874
Are you suggesting nendos and dolls and lewd figurines are not toys?

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>>20142128
>>20142165
Like I was saying, I'm referring to things that were previously only accessible through otaku circles in the west - especially dojin products which are rarely done for pure profit. Same with cosplay (support my patreon!) and image board culture (coopted by politicians)

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>>20142165
Those are products that milk money from the popularity of a franchise, and you can only really sell them for one that's already doing well. A lot of anime gets next to nothing as far as merchandise, and it doesn't generate an amazing amount of profit unless the series is very popular already. It's more complicated than saying anime is mainly made as an ad for those things.

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/g/ has delivered on the decensoring neural network.
Thread: >>>/g/68220714
Samples (obviously NSFW): https://imgur.com/a/v41LmGm, https://imgur.com/a/tyjKay9

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>>20145175
I can't believe there's still people whining about tiny bars in 2018.

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>>20145503
I agree that people whine too much about the bars (though apparently in 2018 there are also people who have turned it into a fetish), but this is not the point. It's a cool piece of software and a testament to otaku spirit.

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>>20145503
If it works with mosaic it has all my attention.

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>>20145539
>It's a cool piece of software and a testament to otaku spirit.
I wonder if it could have applications in other areas.

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>>20147337
You can do the deep dream thing with the NN and make it hallucinate horrible amalgamations of genitals.

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Let me know if any of you guys want some doujin. I can go pick some up for you.
kuronashi.com

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>>20147884
Is this how you make a living or is it a side-thing?

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>>20148165
I just made it last week, so just a side-thing for now. Still need to set up credit card payments, but you can order things in the mean time.

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>>20148187
Was it difficult to register a business in Japan? Or can do you this kind of thing on a small scale without registering a business? I assume you are a foreign citizen who lives there.

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>>20148202
You can register a sole proprietorship for a simple private business. No capital required. You have to know enough Japanese to go to the government office, fill out the forms, and discuss your business with them.
The 株式会社 require capital and an office in Japan.

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I genuinely rue the fact that I was not born Japanese and was instead born in the western hemisphere and that no matter what I do I will always be outsider in Japan and never truly part of it's society.

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fuck irl idols why are they even on this board

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>>20150403
You want to be a beaten down salaryman with a controlling, emotionally detached wife?

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>>20153250
Is it really worse than being a virgin NEET?

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>>20154359

Sounds like hell to me

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>>20155348
I want to be a virgin NEET but in Japan

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>>20153250
Like if being a wageslave in the west is any better. Just different flavors of bad. At the very least if I had been born in Japan I'd have been able to experience my otaku hobbies first-hand instead of being a second class citizen getting nothing but leftovers.

I'd like to be truly able to belong to otaku culture and fully experience it from the get-go.
Even if I somehow go and move to Japan, learn Japanese and all that stuff I'll still just be "that gaijin weeaboo guy" and never truly be integrated into it's communities. Everyone will be be making a circle by holding hands, except me, no matter how close I get to the circle, I'll never be holding hands with anyone and truly be part of the circle.

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>>20157410

If you've always been a loner that shouldn't be too big of an issue

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>>20157410
Just stop bein ga weeaboo and hang out with western otaku in western conventions.

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>>20145175
The absolute madmen

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>>20157958
80% of western otaku unironically believe that lolicons should be executed. This includes 80% of /pol/ as well as social justice liberals

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>>20159228
Nice statistics.

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>>20159228
>some% of western otaku unironically SIGNAL that lolicons should be executed
FTFY.

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>>20157410
Why do you care about "everybody"? Forget "everybody". If you spoke fairly fluent Japanese there would be more than enough people for you to hang out with in Japan. Your English could even be an important asset for making connections with other otaku.

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>>20159228
I don't get it, lolicon isn't necessarily sexual attraction.

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>>20159228
I hope you don't think all japanese otaku support loli

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Haha, look at this fucking trainwreck >>>/qa/2377476

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>>20160471
Most of /pol/ and tumblr do honestly believe that you should be thrown out of a helicopter/sent to a gulag for fapping to the wrong drawings.
>>20160677
Loli, along with most other deviant social trends, are ignored in Japan for as long as they stay under their assigned rock and don't offend the normals.

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>>20161574
Now you've gone from otaku to normals. Which is it? Otaku are the ones being mad at other otaku or loli, no? No one in the main stream gives a shit about Japtoons one way or the other. Thinking it's just western otaku who dislike lolicon is incorrect though. They may not whine on twitter about it, but they're still going to call you a pedo.

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Can anybody translate this here real quick?

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http://blog.livedoor.jp/drazuli/archives/9255762.html
jp blog that translates english comments/threads from various websites, the main guy has an obsession with english memes that stopped being cool over a decade ago. what's old is new again

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>>20162644

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>>20162644
>the main guy has an obsession with english memes that stopped being cool over a decade ago.
Sounds like /jp/

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>>20160690
Why the fuck are they even doing this?

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>>20162652
Who is she quoting?

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>>20162034
「Die!」
(??????is this really what you want translated?)

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>>20161574
>Most of /pol/ and tumblr
That's Western-style collectivism for you. Funny how Japan despite all of its pressure to conform hasn't developed Western levels of sanctimony. I really hope they can keep it up.

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>>20162644
That's cute. Is there some central place where Japanese Westaboos socialize? I'd like to see it.

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>>20163770
The netouyo largely venture out of 2ch to yell at koreans.

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>>20163333

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>>20165249
You can't even what?

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>>20163770
Its more like jp collectivism has a certain boundary it stops at in return for it being at the forefront of social/work life. In the US at least, the few times collectivism rears its head its an all consuming nightmare. I'm not sure which is worse, though I can live with the former far more easily.

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https://twitter.com/kobudashiOdashi/status/1057375930056724480

weed 420

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>>20168735
>In the US at least, the few times collectivism rears its head its an all consuming nightmare
I think that with social media, tribalism is becoming a global phenomenon because we're all living online and the technology heavily incentivizes such behaviour. I mean, I'm pretty sure 2ch engages in its fair share of doxxing and online mobbing

I do think we're living in the twilight of a golden age of (social) liberalism though. Can't wait for militias to start rounding up otaku for sexual deviancy/objectification of women.

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>>20170557
You say global, but
>militias to start rounding up otaku for sexual deviancy/objectification of women.
would only happen in like 5-10 countries max.

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I was being a filthy crossboarder today and saw that someone finally got around to fixing the half-assed job people had done translating Nechronica, a post-apocalyptic RPG where you play a psychotic killer doll in a party of psychotic killer dolls.

I don't have a group to play this and probably never will (and in all likelihood neither do you) but I thought some of you might be interested anyway.

>>>/tg/62775892

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>>20170557
That wasn't quite what I was trying to talk about, but
>I think that with social media, tribalism is becoming a global phenomenon because we're all living online and the technology heavily incentivizes such behaviour.
Pretty much, and in a sense web3.0's foreign poliferation has helped a new wave of japanese netizens "catch up" with western behaviour and web interaction. Though I will say 2ch spends too long jacking itself off to mob effectively.

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lol

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>>20172886
This is unironically evidence against the impact of genetics on moral decisions and behavior.