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Dude, this movie was so disturbing and deep

>> No.1991712

>>1991689
HE DOES BECOME EMIYA IN FATE!
How many times must it be said?

>> No.1991717

>>1991712

It's unknown; we don't quite see his future.

It's just "most likely".

>> No.1991721
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>>1991717
>>1991712

>> No.1991724

>>1991689
Fate Shirou becomes UBW Archer
UBW Shirou becomes HF Archer
HF Shirou becomes Fate Archer

>> No.1991727

>>1991721

Mind of Steel becomes Kiritsugu.

>> No.1991728

>>1991724
All Archers are either Fate Archers or Ilya Route Archers.

>> No.1991744

>>1991724
I remember the shitstorm when this was first posted.

>> No.1991772

>>1991451
Too much time doing nothing. Awesome animation though. Needed flashier action scenes but the choreography was awesome.

>> No.1991780

Fate/stay Night Philosophy 101

-Fate-

Shirou: I want to save everybody!
END.

-UBW-

Shirou: I want to save everybody!
Archer: That is both a logical contradiction and a denial of the self.
Shirou: But the ideal encompasses an aesthetic that makes the endless journey worth it. Why can't I selfishly pursue selflessness?
Archer: FFFFFFFFFFFF
END.

>> No.1991799

>>1991780
>I'm going to oversimplify everything and state it in a way that makes it sound stupid.

>> No.1991820

>>1991780
It's funny, because at first it seems like Kotomine is there to show the errors of his relativistic ways. Too bad he lost.

>> No.1991823

-Heaven's Feel-

Sakura: am I cute uguu~
Shirou: No.
Sakura: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
END.

>> No.1991853

>>1991799
Try demonstrating how he's wrong before demonstrating your butthurt.

>> No.1991866

>>1991799
Uh, I loved F/SN and thought it was a very well written work with strong character and thematic progression and I thought that was funny.

>> No.1991873

>>1991780
Is the son of a murderer is evil? Kotomine didn't believe that.

>> No.1991895

>>1991823
>-Heaven's Feel-

>Sakura: am I cute uguu~
>Rin: No.
>Sakura: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
>END.

>> No.1991896

Kotomine is evil in every arc because he wants to hurt people. Regardless of Shirou's moral standards by the end of the arc, it's a nearly universal human concept that hurting others is wrong.

That's really all there is to it.

>> No.1991901

>>1991866
Oh, it was definitely funny; I was just worried that he was actually trying to convince people that that's all there is to the routes.

>> No.1991943

>>1991896
Beg to differ in Heavens Feel route. Kinda agree at his last part when he mentioned a Servant (Angra Manyu) will be rebirth using Sakura as the "mother". What if there is no sacrificial for the rebirth? I guess to forsake an unborn is kinda like abortion.

Shirou is simply stop him because Sakura is the sacrificial lamb, not a hero. Kotomine was born in understanding that "happiness" lies in other peoples suffering, no matter how he struggles to change that fact.

Boundary of good of evil is unclear in this route.

Hence, what Kotomine and Shirou's act is understandable:
each has a reason in opposition, not because they acknowledge that their action is right or wrong.

A devil with goodwill and a saint with a whim for evil.

>> No.1991964

type-moon shit: the series of choice for newfags that have recently graduated from naruto and bleach

>> No.1991967

>>1991964
Type-Moon; The thread topic of choice for people with nothing better to do than make fun of what other people enjoy.

>> No.1991971

>>1991964
Sure.

>> No.1991977

>>1991964
Soo... Don't tell us that you PLAY the whole game but only understanding the goodness of the story ONLY THROUGH THE CHOICES ???

What a pitiable poor fool.

>> No.1991978
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>>1991964

Please read Type-Moon before hating Type-Moon.

>> No.1991983

>>1991943
OK, you've got a point there. However, in HF route, even if Sakura hadn't been the sacrifice for what was about to happen, I think it likely that Shirou would have wanted to stop Kirei anyway. Regardless of route, he doesn't like letting anyone die. Regardless of Nasu's theme and character progression, I don't think Shirou's basic personality traits changed that much from Fate to UBW to HF.

>> No.1991990

>>1991983
If Sakura is not the sacrificial, nobody knows what happens at the ending except by guess.

But one point for sure: without Sakura's sacrificial, then there is no Heavens Feel route.

Hence, possible endings lie back in either Fate or Unlimited Blade Work route.

>> No.1991992

>>1991990
I am aware of that. I was giving a speculative example because a textual one does not occur.

>> No.1991995

>>1991585
That part of the movie is pretty much exclusive only in the movie though. In the original novel it's pretty much the same like the other chapters.

>>1991654
Nasu's a big fan of EVA. When he commented about the EVA Rebuild first movie, he refers to it as 'The King'.

>> No.1992001

>>1991995
Nasu commented on EVA? Where can I find this interview? I can definitely see the correlation.

>> No.1992012

>>1992001
>Come to think of it, you wrote quite heatedly in your own journal (Chikusou Nikki) about the new Evangelion theatrical release.

>Nasu: I'm feeling a bit apologetic about that myself (Laughs). However, any work that can deal out an impact like that is a treasure; if you're grateful, the least you can do in return is call a delicious thing "delicious" and thank them. All I can do now is pray that the release times don't clash. But I do want it to be released quickly, tomorrow if possible! As a fan, I couldn't be happier about the new Evangelion movie. For me, a rank-and-file soldier, seeing that the king is still as invincible as ever makes me incredibly happy.

http://comipress.com/article/2007/10/12/2787

>> No.1992016

>>1992012
Nice, Nasu is a fanboy. That makes a lot of sense actually.

>> No.1992017

You know, it makes a LOT of sense for Nasu to be a fan of Eva.

>> No.1992029

>>1992012
>I love angst-filled characters; now that I think about it, maybe that's the only kind of character I've written...

He's just now realizing this? More than half of his characters literally have a "dark side".

>> No.1992038

>>1992029
...Being directly corrupted by All that is evil in the world and forced to do the bidding is not really a 'Dark Side'.
And in most cases, it's due to external influences(Zombie mindbending vampire demonic evil of humanity etc)

But then, you have Kohaku .

>> No.1992055

>>1992038
>...Being directly corrupted by All that is evil in the world and forced to do the bidding is not really a 'Dark Side'.

perhaps not, but it does give a good reason for a character to be angst-filled.

>> No.1991468

Are you planning to tell us which movie this is?

>> No.1991473

>>1991451
It was beautiful.

>> No.1991476
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1991476

>disturbing and deep
>deep

>> No.1991475

>>1991468
What he said.

>> No.1991477

Subs where?

>> No.1991478

>>1991468

Star Wars

>> No.1991480

Where are the subs goddamn

>> No.1991482

more like FUCKING AWESOME NIGGER.

Seriously, disturbing? KAY. Deep? KAY. AWESOME. HELL YES

>> No.1991484

>>1991482
Could you scale it down a little, please? Your post was a little too '/b/' for my tastes.

>> No.1991485

>>Kara no Kyokai

As deep as a kids inflatable swimming pool.

>> No.1991490

>>1991485

And with half as many lolis.

>> No.1991491

>>1991484
this entire thread is pure /b/ without the porkslope turkeyhandle

>> No.1991493

>>1991484
fine. though seriously, i love type moon and deep is the furthest thing from this show.

>> No.1991501

SUBS FUCKING WHERE

>> No.1991499

typemoon fanboy movie.

'nuff said.

>> No.1991510

OP here, I guess I have to clarify that I was making a joke. Guess I'm getting a little rusty

>> No.1991516

>>1991510
naw man, i know how you're rollin

>> No.1991517

I downloaded the DVD and the images are not enough! Fuck, SUUUUUUUUUBS

>> No.1991518

Kara no Kyoukai is for massive faggots who like sucking cock and taking it up the ass at the same time.

>> No.1991522

>>1991518

I'd let futa Shiki and Mikiya double team me.

>> No.1991527

A decent movie series that is popular?

LOLOL IT SUX

>> No.1991529

>>1991518
But I'm a girl so it's ok =)

>> No.1991533

>>1991527
This shit is unexpectedly very popular.

I was surprised when I saw so many queries on Tokyotosho, the name written in Japanese even.

I guess anime fans are suckers for anything with girls and katanas and some powered eyes sharingan style.

>> No.1991534

Disturbing? No
Deep? No
Entertaining? No
Pretty Visuals? Yes
Popular? Yes

>> No.1991541

>>1991533
>sharingan style.

Fuck off.

>> No.1991546

Sure is opinions in this thread

>> No.1991547
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>>1991534
>Entertaining? No

>> No.1991551

>>1991534
The problem is that it tries to be deep and disturbing which is the annoying part

>> No.1991555

>>1991546
Sorry isn't that why threads exist? You know so people talk about stuff and express their opinions?

>> No.1991556

Shit right?

>> No.1991560

>>1991551
This. It pretty much ruined itself with it's pretentious DEEP AND DARK.

>> No.1991566

>>1991560
Welcome to TYPE MOON

>> No.1991585

>>1991566
The first three movies were alright though, this one REALLY takes it to a whole nother level. BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD AM I DISTURBING YET GUISE REPETITIVE SCENES SO SURREAL AND DEEPLOL. It was cool when Cronenberg did it in the 80's, now its just fucking stupid especially with generic shounen characters

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>>1991491
Dread Naught!

>> No.1991609

>>1991585

The movie could be about Ryougi visiting a bookstore and I would still love it just because it had Ryougi. I'm not necessarily a type-moon fag, just a shikifag.

>> No.1991610
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>>1991585
Once again, WELCOME TO TYPE MOON!

Nasu has te inexplicable ability to create amazingly original and fresh settings and concepts for characters (and how! Just look at Notes) yet when the time comes to have these characters interact or be fleshed out he turns them into generic shounen characters and the ideas that made them interesting in the first place get thow out of the window and replaced by corny romance (in which the girl is ALWAYS the victim of a lonely and tragic past) and bland motivations that could have come form generic saturday morning anime # 2342.

Im still a type-moon fan though. But as I said, I watch it only for the cool aspects of it. Pic related and a good exampe of what Im saying.

>> No.1991614

>>1991610 look at Notes

You mean that terribly disguised Eva fanfiction?

>> No.1992333

>>1992055
...Not really angst.
Saber has no emotion, Berserker was...berserk and rotting/.

>> No.1991645

>>1991614
4/10
Almost. Almost...

>> No.1991654

>>1991614
Agreed that it is VERY similar lo Eva.
Meh, it has Ado Edem, Gun God (who now that I think about it looks exactly like kaiji) and those angel-like things.

Oh right the Types do look like the Angels of Eva at least in descryption. Who knows maybe their design will be different enough.

Bah, wasted to much effort replying to a troll. Albeit he does have a point.

>> No.1991655

I don't like things that challenge my tidy worldview. pretentious pretentious pretentious pretentious its so pretentious pretentious why don't you see things exactly the way I see them pretentious Its just a film what gives you the right to make a film like this pretentious pretentious pretentious pretentious pretentious

>> No.1992383

havent seen any subs on ep5 from takajun and gg yet. the only thing I know is that in the preview of ep6 we get to see Azaka and her school and all that stuff...oh and Shiki in the same school uniform as Azaka.

>> No.1991663
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>>1991654

At least spell Kaji right.

>> No.1991671

Philosophically, Kara no Kyoukai is probably more fleshed out than other Type Moon works. With the first movie you have a clear existential theme, and one can discern Nasu's point when he writes about those who "fly" and those who "float". I think there's still something left to be desired, and the others movies go a little farther off the deep end, but at least it's better than Fate/stay night, in which he is constantly contradicts himself philosophically.

>> No.1992401

>>1992383

This one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciQPZiSQmR8&fmt=18

>> No.1991679

>>1991654
Except Nasu isn't making a thinly veiled attempt at religious allegory. Sure his mythology can get a bit stupid, but it can't really be called "pretentious." The existential pondering of his characters can be though.

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>>1991671

>in which he is constantly contradicts himself philosophically.

Nasu deliberately makes the 3 viewpoints of Shirou to be contradictory.

Fate embodies the ideal and is the dreamer. (This is why Fate Shirou is the most likely to go on to become EMIYA.)
Unlimited Blade Works realizes the ideal, accepts its impossibility, yet tries to take the ideal against reality anyway.
Heaven's Feel accepts the reality and forgoes the impossible ideal.

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>>1992323

i crown this dude king of threads for the day

>> No.1992504

I really wanted to like the KnK movies because Shiki is so awesome, but the writing is bad. SADFACE.

>> No.1992511

SUBS WHERE

>> No.1992537

Why is Shirou on the poster?

>> No.1992553

>>1992537
I thought that was man-Kohaku.

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>>1992537
It's Tomoe.

>> No.1992564

>>1992555
Yeah, it's too moe to be Shirou.

>> No.1992582

Where are my subs? It's been over a day already Jesus Christ...

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>>1992564
DOHOHOHOHO

>> No.1992699

>>1992582
This one's almost two hours long. No way they'd be able to sub it in a day.

>> No.1992730

>>1992699
If it's longer it just means they have to work faster.

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>> No.1992833

Still no subs?

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Nya~

>> No.1992857

I think subbers will wait for the DVD release, no?

>> No.1992873

>>1992857
facepalm.exe

>> No.1992876

>>1992857
[gg] had the ISO before it appeared on TT, since Akiba was selling it early. Not to mention that it was on Share a long time before it was on TT, something that hasn't happened before aside from the first episode.

>> No.1992880

>>1992857

Disregard that I suck cocks. Also, Taka-jun said he'd translate it so go bother him about it.

>> No.1992899

<!TakaJun> knk is bad
<!TakaJun> GOD DAMN NASU

>> No.1992906

>>1992899

He's tsundere for Nasu?

>> No.1992926

People troll Type-Moon threads. Nobody really bothers caring about it anymore. Acceptable posting triumphs.

Also, Tomoe isn't Proto-Shirou. He's Proto-Arihiko.

>> No.1992937

WHERE ARE MY FUCKING SUBS

>> No.1992942

>>1992906
More like he's been deprived of his imouto and was forced to work in a cell for days translating 2 hours of Nasu

>> No.1993338

>>1992937
www.justfuckingoogleit.com

>> No.1993366

>>1993338
Okay, folks, let’s talk a little bit about the summer ‘07 show Potemayo, which I just caught the first episode of.

Potemayo
First off? It’s about babies. Okay? Babies. Granted, they’re remarkably mobile and their thought processes are pretty sophisticated, but Potemayo is a freakin’ baby. At least, I sure HOPE all that poofing out is diapers - although since she apparently wet the bed they can’t be very good diapers. Ghetto diapers, I guess.

That said, it’s actually a pretty funny show. The “main character” (who has approximately five lines in the whole first episode) hardly bats an eye at his refrigerator giving birth to a bizarre baby.

Potemayo 1
THE ABOVE IS ALL TRUE. I love the green-haired girl’s character design. But then she opened her mouth, and her shrill screeching voice killed any potential affection at the get-go. Fortunately, the boring-looking brunette’s voice is smexy, and she even turns out to be a character of some significance. Groovy.

Now, some Kaze no Stigma.

Kaze no Stigma 13
The female lead does not appear to be being ironic when she says this. She actually goes on to compare her identical outfits. As a viewer, I felt insulted that the creators actually thought I might find it funny.

>> No.1993387

>>1992937
it release together with cn sub

>> No.1993402

>>1993366
/jp/- animu blog

>> No.1993742

is it subbed already?

>> No.1993791

>>1993742
Yeah, in chinese.

>> No.1993811

SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUBS

>> No.1993831
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INCOMING SUBS

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