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Hiroshima & Nagasaki: monstrous, justified, or hilarious?

>> No.1990364
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Utsuho.

>> No.1990367
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1990367

touhou

>> No.1990368

We were supposed to nuke the Germans. Japan made a nice test run.

>> No.1990370

is this the only japan related historical event we ever discuss around here?

why not discuss the meiji revolution or something fresh.

>> No.1990371

epick lulz

>> No.1990380
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Too many dumb nuke trolls turning into Utsuho threads today.

How about the Touhou who would MAKE a nuke?

>> No.1990385

THEY KILLED ALL THE ANIME MAKERS FUCK YOU GRANDPA

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>>1990380

Oh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

>> No.1990393

All of the above.

>> No.1990397

>>1990370

no one cares. japan his shit all for culture and history anyway.

>> No.1990411

>>1990370
I'd love to discuss that, except that I don't know shit.
All my 'knowledge' from that era came from reading Rurouni Kenshin.

>> No.1990431

Monstrous, they didn't bomb Tokyo and the rest of Japan. If they did we wouldn't have the horrors of anime today.

>> No.1990445

>>1990370
Are you forgetting the Rape of Nanking? Either way we never "discuss" either one, lazy trolls just love to start thread after thread about them.

>> No.1990469

>>1990445
Who's trolling? I was just curios what the prevailing opinion around here was.

>> No.1990500

The carpet bombing of Dresden was a bleaker page of the WWII history, if you ask me.
That place had been one of the hubs of European culture for centuries and most of the buildings and fine arts therein bore witness to it. The RAF bombing didn't yield any other fruit but to mar them beyond repair, and what's more the populace wasn't even warned beforehand unlike Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Now, talking about those two, all they were was just two expendable bomb targets which just happened to house a lot of military facilities. Other than blowing away thousands of ignorant peasants who probably didn't even have a clue of what fell from the sky on that fateful day, no much harm was dealt.

>> No.1990499

I pick sage.

>> No.1990536

>>1990500
oh look, an educated opinion

>> No.1990557

It would've been more hilarious if we didn't use the atomic bombs.

Operation downfall would turn the entire kanto plain into a bloodbath, while the red army swip in to capture Hokkaido.

Area 11 gets divided into two, and beautiful architectures will be born.

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>>1990557
>beautiful architectures
Forgot my picture.

>> No.1990570

ITT: Russia is not amused by Truman stroking his e-peen in front of them causing the Red Scare

>> No.1990574

>>1990500
So buildings and art are more important than people's lives?

>> No.1990584

>>1990500

I thought the concentration camps would have been one of the bleaker moments of WWII.

Oh, Wait. this is 4chan. we are plagued with schroedingers concentration camps, where they either don't exist because its a jewish conspiracy, or they do exist because they are fucking hilarious.

>> No.1990592

>>1990574

the japanese themselves didn't exactly value their own lives during that war. why should of anyone else?

>> No.1990600

>>1990584

everyone here already knows concentration camps were a jewish conspiracy.

don't try to troll with tired opinion.

>> No.1990595

>>1990584
>they do exist because they are fucking hilarious.
Don't you fucking dare joke about concentration camps. My grandfather died in one.

He fell off the watch tower after drinking.

>> No.1990611

>>1990574

If you read my post, you'd notice how the USAF actively carried off a warning campaign days before the campaign, namely by throwing leaflets over both of the cities, so basically the whole purpose would have been just to force the Emperor to swallow his pride, hadn't a good part of the villagers been so dumb not to heed the Americans' advice to flee from them before they would be nuked to the ground.
The bombing of Dresden costed both lives and art and had no real reason to be carried off in the first place.

>> No.1990623

>>1990574

If you read my post, you'd notice how the USAF actively carried off a warning campaign days before the bombing, more in detail by throwing leaflets over both of the cities. So basically the whole purpose would have been just to force the Emperor to swallow his pride, hadn't a good part of the villagers been so dumb not to heed the Americans' advice to flee from them before they would be nuked to the ground.
The bombing of Dresden not only costed both lives and art, but didn't have any real reason to be carried off in the first place especially at that time of the war.

>> No.1990631

>>1990584

HURR DURR. Don't put words you just imagined in my mouth, faggot. I was only saying that out of those two events, the bombing of Dresden was worse.

>> No.1990690

>>1990631
What word did he make up?

I was always told we didn't have to bomb them. They knew they had lost, but it was their culture for their emporor to be a god and it was also their culture for the losers to kill themselves for honor. Since their god couldn't have made a bad choice and since the whole country would have had to do it, they just needed time to figure out a way to lose without the mass death. Which took too long and as such they got bombed. The second bombing was just to break their spirits farther.

On the other side, Japan had taken a great many islands and could have always pretended to surrender without meaning it, and built up an army there. It was the best way to end to war now and to make it so no question was asked about who had won it.

>> No.1990720

>>1990557

I remember reading a short story going somehow along these lines a while ago. It was by Turtledove, so you'd figure it has more to alternate history than just Japan being divided. Namely, Stalin emigrates to USA at a young age and somehow manages to become President and the reason he doesn't bring the atomic bomb to bear is because Einstein holds out on him about his scientific breakthrough, to which he retaliates by purging all Jew scientists.
Overall, t'was a good read.

>> No.1990945

Monstrous. Shit wasn't funny since THEY GAVE THE FUCK UP.

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