Mahjong thread

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Friendly reminder.

https://pastebin.com/XUgjaSpr

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Also modified pastebin to add Majsoul. Would be great if someone with pastebin account to take over and maintain that.

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>>19653394
>Majsoul

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>>19653394
>>19654196
I was super excited for majsoul right up to the point where I finish my first game in chinese and it ended up being tonpuu

please tell me there was a hanchan option that I missed in the chinese somewhere. please

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oh good, the mahjong thread is back.

first good news all day

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>>19654356
right under the tonpussen option mate

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>>19654356
>please tell me there was a hanchan option that I missed in the chinese somewhere
Yes, there is a hanchan option. It's the second button here immediately after you picked the lobby.

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>>19653394
Also the Tenhou English extension. What else?

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>my thread gets deleted
i tried niggas

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>>19655057
What fool would delete this?

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What do you guys think about open riichi, is it in fact a dumb rule? I can't really think of any time I would want to do it.

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>>19654437
I dont know how i missed it, i swore i tried every option. Fuck it even says 4 person south. just didn't even attempt to read anything since China

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>>19656972
I wouldn't say dumb. But rather a weird rule. There's some extremely rare cases where it's alright.

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>>19655057
Off yourself.

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>>19656972
manliest of all yaku
only use if you're confident you'll tsumo

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>>19657968
Well shit.

>>19655057
Never try to create a thread ever again.

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>>19657996
Use even when your ryanmen wait are both kanned. That'll show those fools how manly you are.

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What does it mean when tiles are shaded red in Tenhou replays?

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>>19659225
Someone is waiting on that tile

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>>19659248
Thanks.

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If I have 4-6-8, is it better to get rid of the 8 or the 4? Is a 5 more/less likely to be discarded because it can be used in more possible series?

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>>19659507
At riichi: 4 to make a suji trap for 7

Before riichi: 8. 4 can become a ryanmen if you draw 3.

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>>19659507
You're not going to like my answer, as it is more of a non-answer.
There's no one clear answer. Depends on several different things like the state of the game, ponds, rest of your hand, are you playing a game with red fives and things like that.

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Majsoul reminds me of a CN Riichi app I had on my phone at some point. I wonder if it's from the same company or just a blatant rip-off.

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Anybody ever tried anything besides Riichi and had fun with it? I'm thinking about messing with some other styles.

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>>19660222

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>>19660222
Sanma is cancer enough while being riichi. Also both american and chinese tile sets look sucky. Racks are for faggots and there's no cultural or any other excuse to use tiny ass sickly colored symbols.

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>>19660532
Can't you play Chinese with a Riichi set? I figured that's why most sets came with season tiles.

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>>19660619
They say 8 of those is needed instead of 4, but the space's used on red fives.

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>>19660222
Probably sacrilege around here, but I grew up playing American (NMJL) style long before I ran into Riichi as an adult. Good stuff, and the winning hands change every year. The downside? When you find a group it's going to inevitably be a group of middle-aged/senior (mostly Jewish) women. Unless you're into that, of course.

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>>19660222
>>19660667
I sought out an NJML group last year. Hung out with them for 3 sessions. Trying out their game, I couldn't even win a hand. The thought process was completely different.

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>>19660654
I assumed you could use the red 5s as flowers but I'm not sure since I've never played anything but Riichi.

>>19660667
I've thought about trying out American since that's probably what I'd be able to find around here to play in person. Do you know what the good computer programs/websites for it so I can check it out? I know 4winds has everything but that's all I know.

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Is Japanese Mahjong the standard for international Mahjong play? I've been wanting to learn, I just don't know which ruleset to begin with.

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>>19660817
I believe it. It's usually the Charleston that throws new players off. Many years ago, an expert once said that "the Charleston was 50% of the game." That person was wrong. It's really more like %75. For any new American players looking to improve, here's a hint: you're probably fucking yourself in the Charleston and/or feeding your opponents before the hand even starts.

>>19660845
>Do you know what the good computer programs/websites for it so I can check it out?
Yeah, if you're willing to drop some dough the NMJL website has it's own subscription client for members. I think they're charging $50 a year for access these days. So you're looking at $8 for your annual card (which you'd need anyway) and another $50 to play online.

Of course, MahjongTime has American as well. I think it's still free to play over there, so that's an option. I know one of the more famous NMJL players on Youtube swears by it. Again, you'll still need your annual NMJL card (as MahjongTime updates the hands annually as per the new card) but it's quite a bit cheaper for online play.

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>>19661163
There is no standard for international play. Like, at all. There have been several attempts over the years to make one, pic somewhat related.

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>>19661163
You mean world championships? It happens, clubs send people according to their performance. Now how respectable it is is another question, Japan itself has no unified riichi league, it's like dozens of them. And Riichi ruleset besides basics is a bunch of small "on" and "off" options. It's mostly not critical, still you need to be ready to tick them off or on upon notice. Say, EMA has no kazoe yakuman which if happens stops at sanbaiman, or tenhou flips the kan dora after the kanfag's discard and not before, hey guys are we playing with open tanyao or not? - stuff like that.

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>>19661420
>tenhou flips the kan dora after the kanfag's discard and not before
Isn't that a fixed rule? Closed kan flips before, open kan flips after.

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Any reasons a NoName session takes so long to launch? Are they preparing the scrubbest scrubby scrubs for me to feast on?

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>>19661293
Thanks for the info, I'll give it a try.

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>>19661706
I thought so too.

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>>19661706
>>19661839
Since I was going EMA: declare, kan the tiles, reveal the dora, take replacement, discard. For both types of it.

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>>19661727
What rank are you?

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>>19662120
just a d2 about to d1 back, pretty new myself. Ranked games start in about 1-4 seconds but NoName loads for solid 10 seconds or sometimes more. Not really a big deal but it's weird. Maybe it's so people reconsider or at least it's how it usually goes with me.

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>Had my back against the rope, was gonna get demoted, thinking about quitting mahjong for good
>Now I'm at my all-time best R and rank
Never give up.

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Why did no one tell me this game is so fun, learning this is really cool. Would any of you happen to know what the biggest arcade mahjong is? I want to assume it's either Konami's or Sega's, but unsure if there's others.

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>>19662942
>never give up
Until you get knocked back to 1-kyuu, maybe.

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>>19662942
>fag hits me with haneman
>punch the fucker hard and go on to win the game

GIMME BACK MY POINTS YOU SON OF A WHORE!!!!

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Is East only bad to play? I just started and I don't want to be missing out on strategy and stuff by playing speedy games.

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>>19663561
It's not necessarily bad, but if you're playing at an online venue (like Tenhou) a full hanchan doesn't really take that long.

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>>19663561
I think knowing you have another dealer turn to recuperate is huge for motivation. People use tonpu to farm rate to get to the higher rooms, could be a bit no fun allowed.

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If you have 4556 or 3456 in one suit and 89 or 12 in another it's fine to just ditch the 89 right?

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>>19665137
Generally yes unless your hand only needs 2 more tiles to win

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Month is halfway done, post 'em fellas.

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2:0

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3:0

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>>19668911

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>>19668911
>対戦数 1 + 2 + 3 + 3 = 9 戦
I'm not gonna make it.

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>>19668911
>2+3+4+3
I dunno if I can handle tokujou
This is brutal

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Finally got to tokujou after a weird 10 wins streak. Feels like my luck is about to turn now

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>>19663561 here

Muh yakuman....

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>>19671408
Yea, I'm on the verge of getting kicked out again.

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>don't have time to play anymore
>try playing now and then, but I'm either tired or distracted
>lose
>take a break, don't play unless I can concentrate
>lose my edge

I was doing great while I was unemployed, but now I'm a fucking magnet for Haneman

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>>19659569
Ron ron ron that so funneh

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>>19674689
Take a break. Trust me, wait 3 or 4 days before playing again.

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>>19675539
Scrubness defending its scrub is funny.

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bought my first set today, how do i reveal my hand in one swoop without exploding the tiles all over the board? akagi made it look easy

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>>19677258
What kind of set did you get? I'd imagine a shitty one would be almost impossible to turn over properly

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>>19677258
If you can build the wall you can flip the hand. Do you have a framed mat or table along with your tile set?

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>>19675595
>>19674689
If we're having a streak of badluck, then clearly we just need to wait it out and spend all the badluck on 7447 games

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>>19677258
Line up often.

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>>19659569
Please, you didn't even know what you were going for.
Should've folded

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>>19661163
What do you mean?
Each style is played. You have riichi tournaments, you have american, you have WMC or whatever it's called.

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>toimen gets haneman tsumo on my dealer turns twice games in a row

Fuck this shit

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>>19677258
Confident and consistent pressure when you grab both ends of your hand.

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>>19678325
>1shanten from tanpin iipeikou dora
>folding

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>>19679187
With 5400 points and no manzu tiles dropped in the range of the 3m, it was pretty dangerous.
You'd probably end up discarding either the dora or the tile that is close to it which isn't safe either.
It's late and everyone has called at least once.
Would've been probably safer to wait for the dealer turn and try to fuck everyone there.

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Seriously, fuck this shit

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>>19679321
It's half half. Best case scenario: he draws his pair, and makes a mangan ron or haneman tsumo, putting him in 3rd place. Then a dealer mangan could put him close to top.

You have to take chances at some point. Hoping for a renchan streak is a bit optimistic

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>>19677289
>>19677297
>>19677912
>>19678637
ok i trained on smaller hand and slowly increased, thanks

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>>19656972
Dumb rule.

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>>19674689
How do you get that view of your rank over time? Is that on the downloadable client?

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>>19682967
https://nodocchi.moe/tenhoulog/#name=anon

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>>19683057
Thanks

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3:0

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>get fucked by dealing once while in riichi and then by tsumos
>300 points, third renchan before my dealer turn
>shitty hand, no yaku
>shimocha and kamicha both call riichi
>1shanten, 68p and 57s are incomplete sequences and I need a pair
>kamicha discards a 6p
>draw a fucking 6p, 2 draws away from end
>shimocha was on a closed 8p wait
>pissed, check wall
>my last draw would've been a 8p

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Please stop with the lies.

You aren't playing a true game. We both know it. You are only saying "RIIICHI" and "TSUUUUMMO" and "ROOOOOONNNNNNNN" while putting random tiles on the table. It sure looks impressive, but you are only pretending. Please stop all that lies around it, like there is a game with real rules behind the tsumo and the richi. It makes no sense. Please stop it.

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>>19684841
I unironicaly wish I could forget this fucking kusoge and get a hobby that isn't 90% aggravation.

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>>19684841
Are you ok?

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>6 game 4th streak

The last game was really nice
>first round
>riichi very early for tanpin iipeikou with a 36p wait
>shimocha calls riichi in the last possible round
>deal in immediately
>has 3p triplets but it's only riichi ippatsu and 1 dora
>3p triplet is uradora
>dealer haneman

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>riichi
>draw an akadora immediately
>RON

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>>19683057
>https://nodocchi.moe/

Nodoka sees all!

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>147
>258
>369

At this point I just discard my starting hand no matter my draws

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>>19687564
>tfw when your totally unbeatable opening hand was actually just the suji table

[Esh !JL213r6.BM No.]

>>19660619
>>19660654
>>19660845
You can't replace the extra flower set with the red fives. The ordering is important on those tiles, because each tile is associated with a seat similar to the winds, and if you get your seat, that's an extra point. You need a full set of Chinese tiles. But you can play a full game of Japanese with Chinese tiles, so essentially you have that backwards.

I really need to get around to that tile buying guide. I also might wind up making a new paste bin since we seem to need one and no one else seems to be stepping up.

Here are the things I need to help us:
Links to English rules. Preferably ones that are easy to print out, but not tournament related (ESA and WRC focus on tournament rules, so a lot of what you'd expect in a normal game setting gets glossed over or outright ignored), but I'll take what I can get.
Links to current and active offline games, or titles that hold up really well. Preferably fully translated. Also will accept console game names as well.
Links to any online games. I know Tenhou, Majsoul, and Sega MJ. Anything else is fine. I know about the Tenhou English extension.
Links to intermediate material. I have a link to Daina, but anything else would be good.
Anything actively tracking where Mahjong clubs are gathering
Names of Anime/Manga asides from Akagi, Ten, and Saki.
Youtube links you feel would demonstrate good play or just fun stuff.

I'm not going to include discord links on here cause I feel that's somewhat Anti-4chan in nature, but you can find me pretty easily given my name, which I'll be taking for these threads.

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>>19674689
>>19683057
What's the criteria to get your R rating to show up? I looked at some people with a lot of games to see when it started showing up for them but I can't figure out a pattern.

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>>19688173
Above 1800, I think.

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>>19668911
3+3+0+9
Not playing badly and not feeding anything other than dama, just not able to finish hands. Time for demotion soon I guess.

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>>19688131
>Links to English rules.
I swear there's one old page that has comparison of all rulesets available (ruleset A/B, Tenhou, etc), but IIRC the site is dead now. Anyway, there's no 'fixed' rules anyway, but setting in Tenhou's tournament lobby should cover all important aspects including uma/oka.
>Links to current and active offline games, or titles that hold up really well.
Does mattari count? What about that Yakuza mini game?
>Youtube links you feel would demonstrate good play or just fun stuff.
Recently there's 麻雀の匠 series that's really good. Of course it's in Japanese, but it has JP text subtitle so it's slightly less difficult to understand.

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>>19687613
what games is this?

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also anyone playing for real money? what kind of stakes?

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>>19691200
>there's one old page
it werks
http://ooyamaneko.net/mahjong/rratw/index.php

[Esh !JL213r6.BM No.]

Where it is right now, my friends.
https://pastebin.com/rLTVrQC7

>>19693683
I have to leave somewhere, but I'll take a look at it when I get back.

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>>19694486
Small typo: promesis

[Esh !JL213r6.BM No.]

>>19695263
Oh, thanks for the catch. Updated.

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>>19693683
Should have waited before posting. I updated with your link like so:

Riichi Rules around the World: http://ooyamaneko.net/mahjong/rratw/index.php
This is a chart of all of the various different Riichi leagues and their viewpoints on the many optional rulepoints. This is meant for more advanced players who just want a quick list of differences between their chosen variant versus other official leagues. Please note, even if you are advanced, it is still best to view the most updated rules before playing.

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If you have a nice voice and are in tokujou, why are you not streaming shit out of your matches?

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>>19695796
Not enough people watch. It is hard to get even 10 viewers and that is with people that are established in Tokujou and known in the English speaking online community.

Per Tenhou.net rules streaming without a 5 minute delay in Tokujou is discouraged and is banned in Houou which makes good interaction harder.

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I think I've only won like 2 hands all night, I hate this game sometimes.

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>>19696538
Don't feel bad, you just made a miracle happen.

[Anonymous No.]

Hello, all.

I have started learning the rules to Japanese Mahjong today. I was watching a game being played on youtube to get a feel for the turn order, and everyone seemed to play extremely fast and I couldn't keep up without pausing.

For you experienced guys, were you also slow starting out? I feel pretty dumb right now

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>>19696894
Also, the http://curms.soc.srcf.net/wiki/index.php?title=A_Beginner%27s_Guide_To_Riichi_Mahjong link from the pastebin doesn't appear to work

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>>19696920
Use this instead
https://mahjong.guide/a-beginners-guide-to-riichi-mahjong/

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>>19653384
How do I get people interested in Mahjong?

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>>19696986
thanks

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>>19696894
Until you get the hang of it stick to the single player versions, particularly the Flash game. There are a ton of rules to learn and until you get your pattern recognition higher you will be too slow even for fairly casual online play. Normal rules online are 3-5 seconds per action with a 10 second extra time bank. Don't let the speed of pros scare you, they have been doing this a long time.

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>>19696986
Yoink. Thanks for the update, sucker.

Also added a blurb about Yakuza in there.

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>>19696994
Tibet Mahjong teaching method works WONDERS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFgmQ0yaaBQ

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>>19696551
That's one way to look at it. I bet that guy was stoked.

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why is majsoul is so slow? it looks faster on videos etc, it feels laggy af

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>>19697624
Yeah, I've noticed that there are a lot of people experiencing different things. I'm usually smooth as silk when I play, but a lot of people even in my local area will get disconnects. I just hope those all fade away with better coding.

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>>19695796
Would you participate in a communally played mahjong stream?
Where everyone in the chat votes on what to discard and whether or not to riichi or call

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>>19696538
>-32000
Mother of God.

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>>19696894
>For you experienced guys, were you also slow starting out?
Yep. Give it a few weeks or a month or two of regular play to let things cement in your head. The speed will come soon enough.

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>>19696261
In that case, just make YouTube video of Tenhou.net play

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>>19697799
Would absolutely come and call you faggit for feeding chinitsus and stuff. But if it's really just for around 10 people, well see for yourself.

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There's no way to change your name on Majsoul is there? I didn't know what it was asking me so I named myself 12345678.

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>when the luck gods just want to fuck with your expectations

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>>19662387
I play as noname, I let the whole timer run out just because I like to annoy people like you

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>>19700165
Sha was the next dora, lady luck was trying to bless you with dora 4. And you refused to accept her blessing.

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>>19700252
Hey ingame it's perfectly ok. I'm about this wait, it's unnaturally long for NoNames for no obvious reason.

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>>19700578
Off topic but you should use a Japanese font.

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>>19662387
>>19700578
Games start longer for NoNames because ranked games (unlike 7447 games) cannot have players with the same names. That combined with the fact that other people are queuing up as NoName means you're waiting for whatever number of NoNames that queued up already for their games to begin.

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>>19697799
That wouldn't work very well, Even just streaming normally, there's a 30-45 second delay between what happens on screen and what happens in real life. You'd have to play single player, and every time you make a move, it'd be a loooong delay before anything happens.

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>>19700878
Cool, I somehow have a made up memory of two NoShits to gang up on me more than once. Imagine being this upset about them

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>>19700787
?

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Is this how you play this game?

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>>19706636
Kiryu's splash screen and hearing him call the yaku makes this minigame totally worth it

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>>19706636
rounded tiles like this REALLY suck irl

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>>19706672
Yeah, it's really fun. It's what finally pushed me over the edge of actually learning how to play, I'm now considering buying a real set and teaching my friends.

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>>19706684
Seems like it'd be a nightmare to stack those.

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>>19700460
>sha
Is that another name for west tile? I'm not familiar with the wind names beyond knowing their symbols and their english translation.

Oddly enough I had dora 4 on a previous game, led to 19k menzen tsumo with 1st place as dealer, got me from 3rd to 1st it did.

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>>19706684
>>19707413
I imagine it's not helped by the game having rather low-poly tile models here. Aren't real-life ones curved on the edges but they taper to a flat surface, like a stove-top cooking pan does?

>>19706703
Do it, I did and had a blast. IMO playing in person is way more fun than electronic, because the real tiles and the camaraderie add a lot to the game. From my experience, here's some advice on introducing new players to the game:

1. Be dealer and make sure you understand how to deal. Let them try after a few rounds.
2. Let them play their first several rounds without worrying about yaku, just tell them to focus on how you make chi and pon.
3. Give everyone a crib sheet for what the tiles are, but especially for all of the chinese character tiles.
4. After everyone understands the basic game, then introduce yaku and explain why you want them.

We were lucky also that a 5th friend knew how to play but chose to watch, and so he was going around and helping people understand their hands, what tiles were what, etc. Be in that position too if possible. But otherwise as long as your friends are open-minded to new things and you don't try to teach too much too fast, it should go fine. Good luck if you do go for it.

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can someone explain this show's name? why is it われめ, doesn't that usually mean something vulgar?

http://otn.fujitv.co.jp/warepon/index.html

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>>19707965
They're playing with wareme rules, which is something like double payment for the player at the seat where the wall is broken.

http://arcturus.su/wiki/Wareme

[Anonymous No.]

sega MJ any good?

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>>19707965

>looking fine
what an indecent haircut

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>>19700787
How do you feel about Arcturus wiki using Chinese in their logo?

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>>19709107
You seem to be confused.

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>>19708486
It's flashy if that's what you like.

[Anonymous No.]

Are there any recommended mahjong sets for people in Europe?
I checked both pastebins but didn't really find anything, every set on Amazon is a Chinese set and ebay seems to be the better option with buying an import set

[Anonymous No.]

what was I missing? I thought I had a hand, but I guess I forgot about some rule (absolute beginner here).

the tutorial in this one app was pretty good though

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>>19709483
You have no yaku, your calls mean that you can only really win off tanyao/yakuhai

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>>19709483
I'd recommend that when you're first starting, only call dragons, your seat wind, or the round wind so that you'll have a yaku. Otherwise, don't call and just riichi when it lets you for a yaku. Then learn other yaku over time that you can try to incorporate into your hand.

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>>19709483
Look at the OP picture for the love of God.

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>>19709465
Buy through amazon JP. Import stuff is done for you once you pay a small deposit, shipping is quick and ain't bad price wise and there's plenty of choice.

[Esh !JL213r6.BM No.]

>>19709465
Yeah, I'm working on an equipment buying guide, but even when I post it, it's going to be lacking in any experience for the Mahjong-friends across the pond from me. If anyone has any experience with this, it would be really nice to get a hold of that.

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>>19709788
I feel dumb for not checking that already, thanks anon
>>19709803
I noticed the little blurb in there so I appreciate the effort

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>>19709465
A set is heavier than Small Packet weight restriction so prepare to pay for the shipping the same as for the thing no matter the place. To order it along with tons of other stuff is the only way to save. It's cheaper to get two, three sets together, or maybe you want to grab one of those Junk Mats along with it. People mostly buy from Japanese Amazon, Rakuten, Yahoo auctions with a forwarder (they ask about 500 yen for their work). I wonder how those cheap shits from aliexpress feel like.

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>>19709803
That won't be much of a guide probably, Yellow Mountain all day every day.

[Esh !JL213r6.BM No.]

>>19709836
It's not just covering tiles, but yeah, YMI will probably get a good beginners recommendation from me. But I also intend to give a more detailed analysis of the difference between certain tile sets, since that seems to be the questions I wind up answering the most in these threads and on discord.

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>>19709827
I'll give rakuten a look as well then, fairly sure I have some coupons lying around from some other stuff I imported
Aliexpress is pretty tempting though

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>>19709896
Every single one of them are chinese sets. It's probably possible to live with weird-looking 1sou and haku but searching and buying legit point sticks and paying for their shipping separately kind of defeats the purpose.

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>>19710212
I don't claim to be an expert but this set looks pretty regular, wouldn't buy it personally however
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Japanese-mahjong-tiles-household-hand-rub-mahjong-tiles-30-mm/32583989005.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.51.46384d20prYFG3&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_3_10152_10151_10065_10344_10130_10068_10547_10342_10343_10340_10548_10341_10696_10192_10190_10084_10083_10618_10307_10820_10301_10821_10303_10059_100031_10103_10624_10623_10622_10621_10620,searchweb201603_51,ppcSwitch_2&algo_expid=ff2e0204-5eb9-446d-822f-9c2928f90dfd-7&algo_pvid=ff2e0204-5eb9-446d-822f-9c2928f90dfd&priceBeautifyAB=0

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>>19710212
This looks fairly normal to me, reposting since I fucked up the link somewhat
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Japanese-mahjong-tiles-household-hand-rub-mahjong-tiles-30-mm/32583989005.html

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>>19709590
>>19709694
Thanks.
>>19709772
Sorry. I did look at it when I first entered the thread, but I wasn't able to apply its contents yet, as you could see. I'll do my best from now on.

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>>19710325
With that shipping price you might as well just buy a real set from amazon.jp like
https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B009MK69IG/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2WA0ZEKXGORV0&psc=1

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>>19708486
you mean this one
if so yes it is

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>>19710325
Also that set doesn't seem to come with a case, any dice, dealer indicator or point sticks whereas the JP one does

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>>19710348
>>19710357
I'm aware, just pointing out that jp sets are available on aliexpress albeit not necessarily worth getting

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>>19710325
>>19710348
Why do the middle dots on the red fives look like that in those sets (also the white dragon in the aliexpress one)? In mine they look normal.

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>>19710382
Stylistic choice I'm pretty sure

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>>19710389
Gotcha, I thought it might have been significant since the Amazon one has a close-up picture of them.

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>>19708019
oh, that article explains so much.

I asked a Japanese friend last night and he wasn't sure either. I assumed it was something sexual based on my dictionary lookups, but I guess I was thrown for a loop.

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>>19707873
Xia is how you pronounce west in chinese. The poster that replied to you is probably just a baka

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I recently got to play with real people who already have their stuff ages ago so the brands are all dead. I can say so far there are a) ceramic looking tiles which are shiny and sound beautiful but it's hard to build the slippery bastards, and b) mat looking confirmed plastic ones which are the same size but more stable and rectangular and the symbols are even bigger here. Both feel heavy and delicious in hand.

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>>19710212
YMI offers point sticks.

Also, outside of delicious riichi, you can always just replace the point sticks with Poker chips or even just pen and paper, or that phone app. There's no actual NEED for the point markers. They're just nice to have.

[Esh !JL213r6.BM No.]

Okay, Done with the equipment buying guide.
https://pastebin.com/Vb2QNR71

Already added the link to the pastebin. Let me know if there's any feedback or criticism.

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>>19711171
Something to note is, all of the shit I buy from amazon.co.jp here to Maryland in the US comes in 2-5 days, but still costs as much as EMS. No clue what service this is but might want to update.

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>>19711229
Done.

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>>19707931
>2. Let them play their first several rounds without worrying about yaku, just tell them to focus on how you make chi and pon.
yeah , playing chinese/british mahjong first would be a good idea,

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>>19709483
pinfu (all sequences) is only for a closed hand

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>Finally get one of those games where you can effortlessly pull damaten mangans out of your ass against multiple riichis without even having to deal dangerous tiles
I feel sorry for the poor souls at that table, but it was about time I got to be on the giving end of that.

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https://osamuko.com/yaku-overview-pdf/
does anyone have this saved or something similar?

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>>19711887
>based on tenhou's yaku list
what was so special about the doc? http://tenhou.net/man/#YAKU

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>>19712035
that's a great image. thanks

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>>19712215
Use pic related instead, it's a lot easier to read and has basically everything you need to know

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>actually got hit by sanshoku dokou yakuhai for 5200 by 2nd, stealing my 1st place
>got 1st place back by faking honitsu and ronning him back with another suit instead
My closed kan of haku paid. 2 han 60 fu is still 3900.

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>>19710565
Xi is how you pronounce west in chinese. Sha is as valid a pronounication as ton, nan and pei.

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If you have an ankou and you open to call kan, does it still count towards san-ankou? What if it's a closed kan?

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>>19713076
Once you open it counts as open, if you ankan (closed kan) it still counts toward suu/san ankou.

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>>19710325
>$47.55 just to ship a brick of cheap tiles with no another accessories
Yeah, nah. Either hit up YMI or Amazon JP and actually buy a real, nice, and COMPLETE set for just a few dollars more.

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>>19713936
Not in the US, so the comparison is more $50 for cheap chinese shit or $100+ for importing from elsewhere

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Tenhou should just make their own tile set for sale. What if I don't wanna their t-shirts or too busy or just too weak to benefit from the subscription? A set though, I'd get.

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>>19715592
YMI?

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>>19715898
A YMI set would set me back the equivalent of $80 plus customs charges and 20% tax

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>>19715940
Oh, I misread your sentence as saying what he said wasn't true in the US, but I get it now.

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>>19715951
Yeah it occurred to me it could be read in that way after posting, but the original reply chain was about mahjong sets in Europe so I figured context may carry it

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>>19688173
R1800 in L0. R1600 in custom lobbies.

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>>19716297
Thanks, I knew there was a little more to it than the R1800 thing but I couldn't figure it out.

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Okay I want to say "Ron" and "Tsumo" like Kaiji. What do you advise me to learn about saying "Ron" and "Tsumo" like a badass like Kaiji?

I mean. I mean, what is the easiest way to learn about Ron and Tsumo?

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>>19716318
https://mahjong.guide/a-beginners-guide-to-riichi-mahjong/
Play it here http://gamedesign.jp/flash/mahjong/mahjong_e.html
Tldr: make 4 triplets (sequences like 456 or same like 555, or North+North+North) and 1 pair.

When you only need one more tile to complete your last triplet (or your pair if you already have 4 triplets but no pair), that's when you can say RON (when someone discards the last tile you need) or TSUMO (when you draw the last tile you need yourself) like a badass.

And try to fulfill as many yaku as possible >>19712247 - it makes your hand worth more points when you win it.
You always need at least one yaku to win but it's only a problem if you decide to "open" your hand by stealing tiles from others. If you don't open your hand, the game will always give you the option to call riichi when you're ready to win (riichi is a yaku, and the most common one)

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>>19716318
To add to this >>19716666
Very often you can get a pair of dragon tiles in your hand, then you can call PON when someone discards the third one and you get your yaku that way.
This removes your ability to say RIICHI, but you can still say RON on their discard and TSUMO if you happen to draw the last tile you need.

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>>19716744
Oh right and the correct wind tile counts as a dragon for this purpose, so if you are sitting on the east seat or it's the east round and you have a pair of east tiles you can use them like this too.

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Go on Tenhou, and whenever a button pops up, that's how you know you get to shout a word. Always press the button and always shout the word, as that is what mahjong is all about.

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>>19716801
If you do that you'll never get to say ron or tsumo though

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Ok I asked around about that chink shit riichi set and was told the tiles feel as heavy and nice as they are supposed to. Have fun with that sweet shoebox life, cheap set boxes are ugly anyway.

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Chii, Pon and Kan or Chow, Pung and Kong?

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I found the flash game except it doesn't use flash:
http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/mahjong/mahjong.html
So whoever is making the next pastebin can put it in there

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>>19717139
The best thing about it though the newbies who have never touched Chinese ruleset in their life still think pungs are cool as balls. Imagine being this secondary.

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>>19717336
I actually played with the Chinese ruleset first and never understood why they made calling shit in the Japanese version.

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>>19717435
European Mahjong Association was founded in 2005 by Chinese mahjong players way before the anime wave of mahjong memery so it was natural for them.