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[Anonymous No.]

Now With Less (Embed)s Edition

old: >>19520517

>New? Start here:
http://pastebin.com/vmW2qYkD

>Mods:
http://pastebin.com/HcTtYVsn

>E+ Changelogs:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Changelog_%28Elona%2B%29

>Elona Custom Release Thread:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:25014

>Omake Overhaul English release Thread:
https://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:28909

>Current Version:
Elona+ 1.81 (29/07/2018)
Elona Omake Overhaul EN (28/07/2018)
>Latest Custom
E+C 1.80.4 (24/07/2018)
OOENhack (28/07/2018)


Errors? Set the compatibility of the .exe to WINDOWS 7.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19547947
Where can I find the source code?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19548356
Why does everyone want the source code so much recently? Anyways, custom's source ships with it as the .hsp files, but it was made with the decompiled source of plus. Omake Overhaul doesn't seem to even have the decompiled source available. The vanilla source code is only available by emailing noa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19548460
>The vanilla source code is only available by emailing noa
I thought that he publicly published it quite a while ago. In any case, would you happen to know his mail?
How about Elona+?

[Anonymous No.]

If you were going to make the Super Lure available for purchase like the Stradivarius, how expensive would you make it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19548911
50,000+

[Anonymous No.]

>>19548911
80k music tickets

[Anonymous No.]

If I get a sandbagged monster, will attacking it count as being in combat for the purposes of custom pet AI turning on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19548460
>Omake Overhaul doesn't seem to even have the decompiled source available.
Saddening

>>19548911
Like 5k at most. I don't see a reason people should have to grind to absurd numbers of tickets just to get a fun item that makes a single task faster.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19549241
>M-MUH LURE SHOULD BE HARD TO GET,IT TOOK A YEAR FOR ME TO FIND ONE! AND YOU SHOULD SUFFER TOO!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19548559
Don't know his email, but it should be on his website still. I think the wiki links to it somewhere. As for plus, no. Ano doesn't want people moding his mod till he's done, and noa doesn't want other's handing out his source which ano uses. However, custom should include the decompiled plus code as well, You'll need to ask in the release thread on the wiki's forum for more info about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19549241
Elona+ is full of fun items that makes a single task faster/easier, and they all require either stupid amounts of grinding or an official marriage certificate signed by you and your bride Lady Luck in your inventory.

[Anonymous No.]

So? They're stupid. No need for it to also be stupid. Stradivarious is literally one of those items and its only 8k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19549494
But stupidity is pretty much a tradition in E+, and it's important to always respect the local customs in Irva.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19549541
But stradivarius is on south tyris

[Anonymous No.]

Nah fuck that.
>>19549541

[Anonymous No.]

>>19549545
Are you on drugs? Irva is our world, of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19549552
I didnt knew we got periodic demon invasions

[Anonymous No.]

>>19549589
Cats... why are they so cute?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19549772
Something something shopkeepers are really strong something something

[Anonymous No.]

>>19549892
>Stradivarius
You kidding?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19549458
This is quite sad, thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>Ano doesn't give source
>People just take it anyways
btfo

[Anonymous No.]

Should I just be rolling around with as many pets as I can have, or should I focus on just 1-2 pets? I basically have an army of minotaurs following me around now and I feel like this isn't how I'm meant to be playing

[Anonymous No.]

>>19550844
Just do what you want the game is fucking easy so anything works its kind of the appeal

[Anonymous No.]

>>19550844
Anything is fine as long you can handle it, be it the loneliness of being a no-friends adventurer or the horrors of inventory management with a +10 pets party.
Having one or two pets definitively is a lot easier to manage, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19550844
If you're running a full army set up, start preparing picnic baskets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19547947
>Op took my advice about removing the (embeds)

>>19550844
Depends on the game version. E+/Custom makes pets significantly more deadly than in the base game by allowing you to add/remove skills, and modify AI, essentially allowing you to do anything with any pet.

In vanilla or OO they're more reasonable. But at the end of the day, I guess a pet is still a way to double your firepower without many drawbacks... so still kind of overpowered.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19551108
>allowing you to add/remove skills, and modify AI
desu this is such a hassle to do.
i always make my party full of melee fags so that i don't have to worry about anything other than make them charge and kill.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19549458
>Ano doesn't want people moding his mod till he's done
Why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19551207
Probably doesn't want someone to do a better job and steal all his thunder or mess with his stories

[Anonymous No.]

>>19551207
Popular discussion suggests he's pretty selfish and egotistical. If that's true, it's almost certainly because he want to compete with others that could do things better than he does, and make him look bad.

[Anonymous No.]

don worry one day foobar anon will finish his thing and uplift us

[Anonymous No.]

>>19551236
>>19551271
I wanted to try porting it to Linux and the toy OS that I am making but I guess that this is not going to happen, not without rewriting all the code by myself at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19551329
toy OS?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19551488
I am making my own operating system. Since I added a graphical mode to it a few days ago I decided to try and port some of my favourite games to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19551513
>making your own operating system when Windows exists
>surprised when your favourite games don't work

epic

[Anonymous No.]

>>19551513
Sounds fun, keep it up!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19551513
Good luck. Don't let any glow-in-the-dark CIA niggers get you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19551162
>desu this is such a hassle to do.
Yeah, but the vanilla AI is complete crap in vanilla/OO.

You have no idea how awful it is to give a pet a godly weapon, and watch it spend 80% of its turns waiting rather than firing at targets will within range. It's like its AI is actually just an RNG from a list of potential actions rather than an actual AI that makes proper decisions based on the circumstances.

I can understand why you only play with melee pets in OO given the shit AI.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19551783
>It's like its AI is actually just an RNG from a list of potential actions
Not "like". That's exactly how Elona's AI works, barring the handful of "cast supercure/superbuff/superregen at <X% health".

[Anonymous No.]

>>19551936
Specifically, it's
-Set of five actions, equal chance for each
-Second set of five actions, also equal chance for each
-Percentage chance to use the second set instead of the first set
-Preferred distance to remain from opponent
-Percentage chance to move if not at preferred distance
-Action to use when below 25% HP

Anything else would be a hardcoded exception or something I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19551936
>>19551990
Sweet mother of God, that would explain why the AI is so bad in Elona. And probably why pets are so powerful in E+, with its ability to make custom AI rules.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone know how food blessing works in OO? Are all consumables treated equally, or does quality or cooking have any effect on the potential gains?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19552161
Pets ain't strong in Elona because of the custom rules. If they just had that, most of them would be comparable to the PC, the exceptions being those with moves we don't get, particularly good or bad bodies/base stats or those with broken flags like metal.
They're broken in E+ because they get double AP from all sources, nearly triple stats from items and potential for just gold.
Seemingly the idea behind their balance in + was ''its apain to make all your pets strong at once since they share items'' but he somehow completely derped and forgot we share the same items and sources of exp with them and already have a harder time maintaining high potentials in skills for most of the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19551783
Public Performer is pretty awesome as a range pet in OO even with the derp AI. You need a good stealth Lv to keep it's aggressiveness in check however. If enemies spot you, your pet will respond too quickly to the threat. It'll get swamped. Other than that, it chooses shoot and retreat very often. A decent weapon lets Public shine.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Thief class skill actually retarded?

You already have greatly increased chance to crit out of stealth

[Anonymous No.]

>>19552808
Yes, it is.
I wish you could pick the class feats yourself. I always play as a fucking farmer or claymore or warrior because they're obviously the best feats in the game.

Of course, excluding the mage classes, since playing a mage in this game is such a hassle compared to other classes

>limited amount of spellcasting (stocks)
>getting spells is RNG (dreams)
>everything got shadow step to instantly close the gap and fuck your face
>spells can fail the cast
>need memorization,control magic,learning and level your spells meanwhile others just need to level their weapon skill

did i miss anything? others just slap a weapon and begin murdering

[Anonymous No.]

wat the hell can I even trade for it because I can't kill this dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>19553137
CHOKE ON A JURE PILLOW

try corruption potions or scrolls of oracle

[Anonymous No.]

>>19552868
looks familiar, like this here
>>19502183
what's the point of regurgitating posts 2 threads ago, this was done last thread too

[Anonymous No.]

Haven't played in a few years and I'm going to give OO a go. Someone pick my race/class for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19555511
Play something you couldn't normally play in E+/Custom because the classes were underpowered, just to spice things up.

Things to note for OO:
- Weapon/magic feats are highly specialized (up to +100% damage), but take up to five feats to master. This means you absolutely don't want to switch weapon/magic specs after you specialize.
- Everyone doesn't get magic resists that scale like in E+, so mages are still competitive by lategame.
- Read the wiki article on Omake feats. Many of them allow you to turn normally unrelated skills into combat bonuses (gardening, etc).
- Idols and samurai have special abilities unique to their classes
- Martial artists can have feats that allow them to use light weapons two-handed and retain their normal bonuses

[Anonymous No.]

>>19555564
Also, forgot to mention perhaps the most important thing:
By default, plat costs are exorbitant. (20 for the first skill, scaling up). Ultimately, it can take over 1000 plat to learn every skill via trainer if you pick one of the classes with fewer starting skills. So consider your starting skills much more carefully than in E+.

Though its worth noting that the english OO has an option where you can set drop rates on EXP/Plat/Gold/items/etc. So you can modify this if you feel it's too unfair.

[Anonymous No.]

Bring back corpse effects on eggs

[Anonymous No.]

>>19555637
>>19553556
>what's the point of regurgitating posts 2 threads ago, this was done last thread too

People never need a reason to complain about something.

[Anonymous No.]

I appear stuck with the main quest. I'm supposed to go find "<Karam> on the 17th floor of Lesimas", according to the librarian. I cleared that floor a while back, and returned to find Karam's not there. Not sure if I accidentally killed him and forgot, or if he didn't properly trigger some flag, or what.

What do? Does he respawn? Or alternatively, anyone know if/how to edit the save using EloSnack to force the quest to progress to the next step?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19555827
If you're on top of a town or the stairs leading to a level, you can reset it by doing the following: hold down the Backspace key, and while holding it hit Enter, then answer 'Yes' when it asks if you want to initialize the room.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19555967
It worked. Thanks anon, you're a lifesaver.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19552868
>>I wish you could pick the class feats yourself.
you can in OO

>>19555511
Make custom ones. They're pretty imbalanced otherwise as the ninja has innate speed bonus which is >>>> any other bonus from any other class.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19556027
OO is shit
stop propagandizing this piece of unfinished and unpolished garbage

[Anonymous No.]

>>19555511
Juere/Prostitute, monotheist follower of Inari. Prostitution feats for easy cash, and maybe get the sex addiction if you want some extra challenge.

[Anonymous No.]

Monotheist is a bad idea on his first OO character. He won't see miracles for more than one god, when they're one of the main new additions.Makes more sense as a thing to do on a gene file after trying out OO gods with miracles and seeing which you like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19556137
Bad idea. Prostitutes get that -75% health class trait, don't they? (Maybe it varies between which exact patch you're using.

Also, NEVER take the compulsion negative traits. They apparently scale up very badly and can give crippling penalties at higher levels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19556027
Samurai have a stupid high amount of starting feats. Both Dancer and Barbarian also gets speed bonuses (just +5 instead of Ninja's +10) and have good starting skills/feats (like axe two-handing and a combat-oriented performer).

>>19556148
Monotheist isn't that bad if you aren't a title hunter. Miracles takes a fairly long time to unlock and you can't really use them all the time, and Inari have the coolest stuff (immunity dagger, more cash, faith improves your dagger skill, etc), even her passive is pretty nice.

[Anonymous No.]

I have been killing the same blade alpha for 2 hours via F2 reload and no plate drop,i am convinced this item does not exist or i got shitty luck

[Anonymous No.]

>>19556364
Stop copy/pasting posts from old threads you nigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19556364
it was funny the first time

[Anonymous No.]

>>19556344
Samurai also innantely take bonus damage and do more (perma fury) because of one of their feats to balance it out. Given you already 1 shot most enemies with +100% damage feats, this really just means taking more damage, making them meh.
Really all its feats mean is tactics are easier to learn and both short and long swords are broken on it, not just 1 wep type or 0 like most classes.
Balance super bad

>>19556344
>>Monotheist isn't that bad if you aren't a title hunter. Miracles takes a fairly long time to unlock and you can't really use them all the time, and Inari have the coolest stuff (immunity dagger, more cash, faith improves your dagger skill, etc), even her passive is pretty nice.
Monotheist is literally locking yourself out of a large part of the games new content when he's playing OO to experience the new content, for a whole 1 feat point. It makes literally 0 sense to rec it. At all. It not being relevant until you've invested an insane amount of time into a character is even more reason not to take it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19556364
Filtered.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19556436
>It makes literally 0 sense to rec it.

Actually, most of the negative traits seem to be like that; far too extreme of a penalty given what the cost. They might be justified if you only look at balancing on game start (+1 feat = +33% feats), but by the endgame when you have nearly 20 feats total... they're absolutely not worth it. Things like "no magic" or the compulsion traits which scale up horribly, or pacifist, etc.

I wish there were more "reasonable" negatives like in other roguelikes. Like maybe instead of no magic, just a -25% or -50% for an extra trait point. Or maybe instead of no changing gods (or no gods, full stop), maybe just greatly increase the penalty for swapping gods.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19556364
It's generated on the blade when it's created, not on its death. You could go ahead and kill it for the next 24 hours and it wouldn't make a difference.
If you really need to scum an item, save before entering a dungeon that has that enemy type, go down a floor and read a scroll of oracle. If it generated, go find the monster holding it. If not, reload and repeat the process.
For future reference, this page specifies when is the item created http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Loot_table

[Anonymous No.]

>>19556436
I wouldn't call "two spacts per god that you can use once in a blue moon (if you have the required godly-tier weapon for one of them)" a large part of OO's new content, the game have a lot more than that.
And, to be fair, none of the negative feat points makes "any sense" at all if we are talking about combat balance, except maybe eternal virginity since prostitution isn't that good without some feats.
Pretty much everything in OO's design puts RP and variety over balance, with a few exceptions.
For example, nothing is stopping you from creating a bunch of lazily-made custom gods with wish gems, so you can have +10 free wishes per year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19556494
What part of "stop copy/pasting posts from old threads you nigger" were you too subhuman to understand?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19556584
You wouldn't, I would. He maybe would. Regardless, its more content than ''lmao you can't do shit now''.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19556584
>Pretty much everything in OO's design puts RP and variety over balance, with a few exceptions

That's not really an OO issue; the same statement is true with virtually any game with a large modding scene. Go on the Steam Workshop and look at mods, and the majority of them effectively boil down to better, stronger, and prettier versions of stuff that's in the vanilla game. It's human nature to want something you put time into creating to be outstanding compared to its peers.

[Anonymous No.]

So when playing OO, I randomly saw "[Heroname] realizes the limitations and leaves North Tyris". Is this something unique to OO, or was it in the vanilla game as well? And what does it mean, that a hero became too powerful and was taken out of play to make room for more rookie heroes? Or that you can only encounter the hero on the other (unfinished) continents from now on?

[Anonymous No.]

Don't Starve was ridic for this. Every character was either ''a normal char in a new skin'' or ''does 3 x normal damage, gets all stats back on kill, has double hp, moves super fast, is a furry''

>>19556725
Pretty sure I've seen that in other versions. It just means they left the game entire to cycle in new heroes. I think its just an on death thing they sometimes do

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone know what the rules are concerning blessed food in Omake? I keep having blessed food that I tuck away into my cooler box turn back into unblessed food. I'm not sure if this is a bug, or there's a condition/timelimit on blessings.

[Anonymous No.]

Must be a bug. I have blessed food I made like 20+ hours ago. Still blessed. I don't use coolers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19556601
>''lmao you can't do shit now''
This is one bit may be hard for me to explain, and it's just my opinion, but I will try anyway.
For example: you take the nil magic feat, so you can't cast magic anymore, losing access to loads of spells and the spellmaking feature, and now you have to rely with potions, scrolls and rods.
But you can't cast magic because first and foremost that is how your character is, and that is the challenge you decided to take on. The extra feat is just a small reward for your choice.

Just throwing around my opinion a bit more, but I don't see Omake Overhaul and Plus as the same kind of game, even though they are both children of the same mother.
In E+, thanks to the fast leveling and other QoL features, penalties in general are minor issues, while doing a bit of everything is easy to do and almost always rewarded.
OO, on other hand, makes your starting race/class of choice a big decision because everything is very expensive so you can't just go on a shopping spree. OO's feats (and other changes in how combat works, like new features for base weapons) rewards specialization, so, unlike E+, being good at a few things not only is the easiest route but also a rewarding choice.
It's kinda like a "low rates vs high rates" MMO server discussion, we are talking about the same game but we can't easily apply the same point of view to both of them.

I'm not defending OO's balance (I agree that there are tons of issues), I'm just trying to say that you can't really "port" your playstyle from Plus to OO and vice versa, since both games won't give you that same toys to play with. So, "lmao you can't do shit now" doesn't hurt as much as it does in E+.

And, to avoid possible confusions, I'm not defending the suggested "prostitute" build. I'm just talking about the game in general.

>>19556698
I'm not just talking about custom content, even stuff like Inari's artifact dagger or Ninja's +10 speed are stronger than some other options available on the same level. But ninja gets that bonus because "ninjas are fast", and that is how said aspect is represented in the game.

[Anonymous No.]

Ok, so, this is something that has been confusing me for a very long time long time in e+ and i just don't seem to understand it very well

0 charisma = 2 pets
5 charisma = 2 pets
10 charisma = 2 pets
15 charisma = 3 pets
20 charisma = 4 pets

is this right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19557233
>http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Charisma
>Every character may have at least 2 pets, plus one more pet for every five charisma starting from 10, up to a maximum total of fifteen pets

wow that was hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>19557285
i still don't get it
so it's the way that i said it was?
just answer the question you pretentious faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>19557233

Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19557316
Not many people really cared to find the finer points of that. All they cared about was need more pets => get to the next multiple of 5 charisma.

I think its 2 + charisma/5 myself, but if it isn't then it should be charisma/5 with a minimum of 2.

[Anonymous No.]

Who should I bio Printer keep in mind im in act 1 still since im assuming its 1 time usage

[Anonymous No.]

>>19557316
Yeah, you absolute mong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19557766
Maybe little Gwen if you don't want to kill her, since she will grow up after act 01.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19557766
The King, Innocent Gwen and that one guy who dies in Lomias all vanish forevers far as I know. But all can just be killed. And you need to kill them if you also want their card or flesh doll. So it don't really matter
Maybe a god if you summon one for some reason

[Anonymous No.]

All of a sudden, after grabbing a few PCC's and character sprites I experience several seconds of delay when loading a save, talking to an npc or entering cities. Anyone know what might be causing this?

[Anonymous No.]

I had that issue in OO until I made a new OO folder and transfered stuff over to it. I assume my old one got a bit too messy when overwriting things multiple times to apply patches and the hack version with the damage numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>19558919
I kinda solved it for now by simply deleting large unneccesary files (like the complete archive of elonauploader) in case the game tried accessing them. Rebooted my computer too and now everything is fine again. What a strange game

[Anonymous No.]

>>19558416
gonna use it on gwen then since the king died already dam

[Anonymous No.]

>>19558416
The King shows up in the Void, as do several of the Lesimas NPCs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19559346
yeah but have you tried killing npcs in the void?
it's hard as fuck. they're very strong there.

[Anonymous No.]

Anons. If somehow i become successful in my gamedev. Someday. Ill try to make elona in 3d or cute hand drawn sprites.
It should not be really that hard since the source code is available and just needs porting to another engine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19560669
Uhh...I...guess? I mean a good number of us are probably on floor 100+, and things do eventually get challenging, but honestly I've never had an issue finding them before floors 20-30

[Anonymous No.]

>>19560892
Thanks Anon, that'd be rad.

[Anonymous No.]

I just got a t rex but is it even worth grinding up my riding to fucking 51

[Anonymous No.]

If you are playing vanilla or OO as a Golem, yes. If you are playing literally anything else no

[Anonymous No.]

Which NPC has the highest life? Does anything beat Fire Dragon Child? Even Meshera is lower.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19565750
>fire dragon child
is he really a child when you evolve him like 2 or 3 times though?

[Anonymous No.]

"My name is not important... What is important is what I'm going to do. I just fucking hate this world and the human worms feasting on it's carcass. My whole life is just cold, bitter hatred... and I always wanted to die violently. This the time of vengeance and no life is worth saving. And I will put in the grave as many as I can. It's time for me to kill... and it's time for me to die."

[Anonymous No.]

>>19566889
Everything in Elona is a child until you fuck them. Then they're adults, as fucking children would be immoral.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19555511
If you want something easy you can't go wrong with yerles ninja.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567241
Mohammad fucked a 9 year old girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>19555827
Karam does respawn after a few days.

>>19556725
Heroes retire in all versions, though you'll encounter it more in OO more often. They spawn in dungeons, which means they die more, which comes with a chance to retire. Also you can send your pet to become an adventurer, and when you do an existing adventurer will retire to make room for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567279
Good for him. He fucked a 9 year old adult.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567284
I fucked a 9 year old adult too

[Anonymous No.]

>>19564048
Riding is insanely good outside of E+. You're better off starting with a horse and working your way u to a t rex though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19567298
Oh yeah, and increasing your pet's strength will also help make up for a low riding skill. It's counterintuitive but lowering your pet's speed can also help. If you have the ring of steel dragon, equip it on your t rex (might have to engineer the slot on first) and it should boost your speed considerably.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any reason to boost your fishing skill past 60 or whatever? It seems like at 60 you always catch something using the beetle and fishing apparently doesn't influence what you get.

[Anonymous No.]

Any info anywhere on making the servant for a god? How stuff like Ai act's numbers translate into the actual game, how to give it spells. A lot of its pretty self-evident or simple trial and error but these things and the meaning of ''ai heal'' I'm lost on. Dunno how we give the things stats too. Trying to make a high life monster that only moves via short teleport.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568402
I'm pretty sure this'll help you, especially the external links:
https://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Custom_NPC

[Anonymous No.]

yo friends
do the color of these seeds means anything at all?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568889

I want to say that green is usually vegetable, gold is fruit, and blue is herb. But I'm not certain if that's accurate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568889
Item frames and colors are generated randomly, and can be re-generated between versions from time to time. They don't affect whether the item is actually cursed blessed or whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

What happens if you downgrade versions instead of upgrading? should it work as long as you arent in a safe map? i know you should lose the newer version items or NPC

[Anonymous No.]

>>19571723
are in a safe map like vernis or palmia which arent changed between versions*

[Anonymous No.]

>>19571723
I imagine the save file will just get corrupted if anything, I guess it couldn't hurt to just try and see what happens?

[Anonymous No.]

Had a new playthrough
i think the game bugged somehow
Wished for a seven league boots though it didnt appear.
God im frustrated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19571922
did you misspell it or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19568554
Thanks, that works for stats, seems possible to do everything else I want too. Just made a new race with these stats to see if it works and it does.

[Anonymous No.]

What's a good source of Scrolls of Flying? I want to get an altar in my home to make gaining favour easier

[Anonymous No.]

>>19572444
Magic vendors. They appear like 1/5th as much as Corruption pots for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19572479
Oh shit they're that rare? I thought they'd just be in higher level dungeons or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19572674
I find them occasionally in high-level dungeons, but I'm pretty sure I've gotten more more by just investing in a single magic shop and checking it regularly. (I think I've gotten slightly more more flying scrolls than potions of cure corruption, but I haven't been keeping track.)
If you're willing to mess around with hiring shopkeepers for your house, that'd probably be the best way to get lots of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19572776
I'm gonna need to level investing then by the sounds of things, lol.

[Anonymous No.]

What I like to do in + is max 400% investing then invest 50 in one go for sick charisma gains.

[Anonymous No.]

What enemy in the game has the lowest possible INI? Snail? I'm thinking of recruiting one and building it from the bottom and up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19573513
Just did that. Wewlad

[Anonymous No.]

>>19573604
Congrats to Shuden on her 9th birthday, she's now Legal in Tyris

[Anonymous No.]

>>19573765
I'm sure she'll be happy to hear that

[Anonymous No.]

can any somebody help me how to install the overhaul

[Anonymous No.]

>>19573925
Download Elona 1.22. Drag into folder.
Download Omake_Overhal_Eng. Drag on top of that.
Download Omake_Overhaul_hack (its in the comments), Drag on top of that.
Done.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the best class feat?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19574498
As a general rule, I'd say Warmage for casters, otherwise Predator. Nothing wrong with wanting something else, though.

[Anonymous No.]

With a high enough dual wielding skill, is it possible to reach 8 swings per turn reliably without wearing a bunch of extra attack triggering artifacts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19574715
As near as I can tell, having 2000 Dual Wield is roughly the same as equipping the <Twin Edge>, <Five Horned Helm>, and <Mighty Arms>. (67 CDATA_EXTRA_MELEE / 1005 ENCHANT_EXTRA_MELEE.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>19571922
If a pet earned the wish for you, the item will appear at the pet's feet rather than yours. If you haven't left the map yet, go check the local wells.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19573581
The AP gains of a snail over something like a god servant are going to be tiny. It's not worth it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19575870
Yeah this was my bad.
I think it was my pet who got the wish
I found it.

[Anonymous No.]

>Load up my old save
>Time is suddenly going extremely fast even when standing still
OH GOD WHAT IS HAPPENING

[Anonymous No.]

What’s the best thing to spend ap on? I got like 1000 for me and 800 for my pets.

[Anonymous No.]

Speed until you cap it. Then the broke as fuck mp=hp thing. And continuous attacks if you are hitting enough for the chain system to gimp you

[Anonymous No.]

The Obstinate trait is good too, since it always increases your critrate and critblock. If you're a caster and don't want to get Barrier, you could get the Charm trait instead. You can always switch traits later if you change your mind.

[Anonymous No.]

What kind of genre/setting would a elona anime/manga be?

[Anonymous No.]

Slice of life with dungeon delving, like that one manga that already exists I ain't read 'cause I don't read manga

[Anonymous No.]

>>19573936
i have failed you

[Anonymous No.]

>>19580547
whats wrong?

[Anonymous No.]

I cannae get my custom NPC to use Shadowstep. It just wanders around me and does melee. I even gave its custom race shadowstep in case that's something you need to do (which it shouldn't be since most enemies are of races with no special acts). Doesn't matter if I put Shadow step in act or sub act or how likely sub act is

[Anonymous No.]

>>19580641
aiMove is probably too high.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19580646
Its 0. It still moves though, which is weird. Its supposed to be an incredibly slow but high statted god pet that occasionally teleports to things and kills them

[Anonymous No.]

>>19580658
That is weird. cNPCs I've made used shadow step fine, sound effects and all.
I attempted to reproduce your ai through elosnack on OO. Try adjusting offset 848 to encompass the actual amount of actions. When it was anything below 4 in my example, my pet would only stand around and do nothing until something entered melee range. It would only move if it was not in combat. If that doesn't work then I'm out of ideas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19580814
I just made it with the OO CNPC stuff. I don't even have Elosnack. I'll have to get it later and see how it works

[Anonymous No.]

>>19580814
Actually nvmind I just had to set AI to rush in in game. On the default act normal AI it refuses to do it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19580359
Slice of Fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>19580193
Speed first, then the barrier feat. Once you have everything else you want, buy skill points.

[Anonymous No.]

How do I give my pets feats in Omake Overhaul?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>19584036
Is this modded or some shit?

[Anonymous No.]

okay which of these files do i need?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19584019
Feat menu, press z or x to switch to ally. Then same as you

>>19584226
Unzip 122. Then unzip omake_overhaul_en into that folder. Then hack in the same folder. Overwrier when asked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19584881
>Feat menu, press z or x to switch to ally. Then same as you
Thanks anon!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19584079
Probably either from the deep void or an awakened nefia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19584079
(AP)
Yea, its +

[Anonymous No.]

So, while I've been killing time waiting for the 11th month to summon the 8th and last god mani, I've been harvesting my 2 leech ranches. This is just a 1-month haul, and it's really starting to get out of hand. I've already filled 200M in yacatact banks, and have another 100M on me.

[Anonymous No.]

+ balance sucks, who'da thunk lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>19588617
>not even 2k speed

?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19580571
nvm i'm gucci

[Anonymous No.]

>>19589224
Oh, yeah. I only have 1300 base speed. But when I ditch my pets and use buffs, it shoots up to 2900. Grinding small medals for Hermes is a pain, and speed uppers aren't much better. I'll probably use up the last of my wish stock on herme's potions after fighting the inner gods. Unless someone knows a better way that I've missed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19589405
show your gear tab

[Anonymous No.]

>>19589534
lewd

[Anonymous No.]

>>19589534

[Anonymous No.]

nani

[Anonymous No.]

How do I give my gobbo the pointy ears?

[Anonymous No.]

Would it have killed the HSP guys to put in an indicator of the exact line preventing code from compiling? It took me like half an hour to narrow it down to a single string where I'd accidentally deleted the opening quote.

[Anonymous No.]

Hi guys! I'm new to the game and i have a question

Are short swords viable for endgame? I'm planning on dual wielding with several weapons, but i heard that you can make any weapon to be very light using scrolls of flight, so i'm not certain if i should stick with short swords or not.

[Anonymous No.]

It begins! Or, ends I suppose. Now that I've cycled through the last god for their god gifts, I'm taking them down. I started with Opatos, since he's supposed to be the hardest. The fights will be held in lesimas, the second to last floor. Its an easy to get to static location that I don't mind if it gets destroyed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19590768
Anything's viable for endgame with enough training. A beginner should worry about the present, not the future.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19590768
>4 hands
mutie scum

[Anonymous No.]

>>19591451
i'm an Asura

[Anonymous No.]

>>19591506
h-how

[Anonymous No.]

Boss rush! I only died to Izpalt, who caught me off guard with a mana burst. I made sure to always heal to full health for the others.

Now with that I'm technically done with this character. I even have some stats at 2000-ish too. I might play this character off and on a bit more, maybe try to max base stats/speed/life/mana/etc. But this is probably the last you'll see of snail for a while at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19591666
Oh, I forget. At around the half way point, I switch back to the solar cane from the blood rod. While the blood rod works as advertised, it only gets +200 to dice rolls. But I have around 600-900 bonus damage from boosts and such, so it only adds 25% extra damage at best. Pierce really is the only weapon stat that matters end game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19591640
Go to the Elona folder and open the config.txt

find a line called "ExtraRace" and set the number to "1" to enable the debug races

after that, boot up the game and create a new character.
It starts with very few slots, but there's an NPC at act 2 that gives you bodyparts in exchange for life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19591700
Is the solar cane really good enough to beat out a living lightsaber, or is your staff skill just much higher than your long sword skill?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19593246
In terms of raw damage living weapons make a strong early-mid game, but fall down end-game. The +enchants they get are even worse off than the blood-rods MP-dice conversion. Even using all 10-15 level ups for magic damage doesn't match artifact fusions + magic damage fusions. It is easier than grinding socks though. I might switch for time stop.

Honestly, it's not the damage that's the main problem. I just keep running out of MP. The blood-rod still matches or out damages the solar cane when I have enough MP, but with up to 16,000 MP used per attack depending on multi-hit, I was using half my MP just defeating the outer-god pre-fight. It's worse for dungeoning. I thought I could out-level the problem, but I even with all that MP and 1200+ meditation it drops to nothing and stays there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19584079
I believe it's a screen shot from a lot of threads back when someone cheated to see what kind of stats monsters had very deep into the void.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19593417
I get that artifact fusion ultimately beats out living weapons, but can't you only fit like two +magic damage enchantments on the solar cane? I'm surprised if that's enough to beat 10 living weapon levels of magic damage.

[Anonymous No.]

I just unlocked all 3 rewards from Opatos of Earth, and looking at the wiki, it seems there's not that much punishment for switching god, the debuff only lasts 10,000 turns and isn't that crippling.

Can I just keep switching gods until I unlock all the rewards without any real penalty? It seems pretty meta

[Anonymous No.]

>>19595140
From the Adventure Seminar:
多くの冒険者は、神々を何柱か信仰してご褒美をもらった後に最終信仰を決めていますね。全ての神を信仰コンプリートする者も少なくありません。神々は能力も性格も個性的なので、最終的には自分のスタイルに合っている神を選ぶといいでしょう。もちろん、面白さとか可愛さとかで決めてもいいんですけどね。

I'm translating it as:
Many adventurers collect rewards from all eight gods before deciding who to truly believe in. Gods have individual personalities, so you might want to stay with a god that fits your personality. Or you can just go with whatever sounds fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19593983
Oh, yeah no. If I was going to min-max I probably wouldn't use the solar cane. I've actually switched to the vice staff for the extra spell enchant. Still, when I was looking it up, the living weapon bonuses where +100 each, while the fusions where +300 each. So solar cane could get up to 600 bonus magic, or 6 levels worth on a living weapon. It's actually pretty good.

If I was going to min max this, I'd want a miracle/godly long sword updated into a light saber with as few useless enchants as possible and as many great ones too. I'd then pick up the invokes elemental scar, and a bunch of lightning or fire damage from arasiel. At the level scar would be cast at even bosses would probably get nailed within 10 attacks, and it would be a massive damage boost.

For now though, I'll switch to OO and see what the fuss is about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19593600
oh right that'd make sense, I thought it was just a custom npc with insane stats or something

[Anonymous No.]

Where do I find this many hedgehogs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19596634
If you really don't know, a thousand hedgehog is a higher level hedgehog. You only need 3 of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19595140
>Can I just keep switching gods until I unlock all the rewards without any real penalty? It seems pretty meta
Yes, that's what everyone does, at least for the rewards worth caring about.

[Anonymous No.]

Does the last evolution of fire dragon child still get Megid Flame? It's not an option under its custom AI, and I've never seen it used even when I turn it back to default.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19598473
case CREATURE_ID_FIRE_DRAGON_CHILD
if ( cdata(CDATA_EVOLUTION_STAGE, tc) > 1 ) {
ActionToFind = SKILL_SPACT_BOOST
gosub *AIFindAction
gosub *AIAddAction
}
if ( cdata(CDATA_EVOLUTION_STAGE, tc) > 2 ) {
ActionToFind = SKILL_SPACT_MEGID_FLAME
gosub *AIFindAction
gosub *AIAddAction
}
swbreak

Have you tried "Re-Initialize Actions"?

[Anonymous No.]

Where can I get a gem cutter? It's bothering me that no matter how much I go spelunking and investing in shops, it won't show up

[Anonymous No.]

>>19599855
I've found them a lot in random dungeons, I think they even show up in the Puppy Cave quite a lot

[Anonymous No.]

>>19599875
You sure? I've been running through puppy for hours triyng to find one while collecting accessories for yact. Maybe it's because I'm playing Elona+?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19600099
They show up in plus. You just have bad luck, or ignore them by mistake.

[Anonymous No.]

Curious. There's a carpenter's tool and a sewing kit in the info shop in Vernis, and the Cyber Dome has alchemy tools in the back, but I can't find a gem cutter lying around anywhere, at least in North Tyris. Is there a guaranteed one anywhere?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19600257

Good question. I had a quick look around and couldn't find one either. I thought the workshop had one, but that's the only tool that isn't there.

It's weird since you can find almost every other crafting tool in several locations (IIRC, pot for fusion is the other exception). Seems like an oversight. But then again, I've never had a problem finding them in dungeons or from a general store.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19600257
You know what they look like right?

It sounds like your character is pretty early in the game, so there's not a whole lot you'd likely be able to do with one. Scrolls of inferior material and return could be somewhat useful, I suppose.

[Anonymous No.]

Please teach about crits

Critical bonus x 2 + 10 > Random number (0 to 399) + Random number (0 to weight modifier + 1) x 2 + critical reduction equipment attribute

Critical bonus: total equipment attribute strength / 50 + (Eye of Mind)^0.5. Maximum 30.
Weight modifier: Weight of weapon or ammo (integer part only) x 50. Lower limit 0, Maximum 200.

Does this mean the crit rolls max out at 70 to compare vs other side, that seems a bit low if I wanted a high crit char. 4s weapon makes 70 roll vs 0-599

[Anonymous No.]

>>19600665
Naplus' Pot of Alchemist is guaranteed, although it's heavy (and an unstealable precious item). Seems like the gem cutter is the only one where an absurdly unlucky person would have to burn a wish.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19600099
Yeah they're definitely in E+, they can easy to miss though I suppose

[Anonymous No.]

>>19599855
The Crooked in Noyel sells them the most often.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a way to make god artifacts in OO not weps? I've been stuck on my god for ages 'cause I just can't think of an artifact for it. But its gem already looks like a helmet, so I could use that, then make the gem something else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19604904
Isn't the custom artifact template just the normal custom item template used by Omake? You can probably change the "reftype" number to any item category you want.

[Anonymous No.]

How do I remove thirst exactly?

That mechanic in the new Elona+ is terrible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19605188
Do you use Custom? I read it has an option to disable thirst.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19605188
Either drink potions or pay a bartender.

I'm working on creating a modded version of Custom that removes thirst and a few other questionable decisions. (Attacking with extra hands being nerfed, the gold reward from Nefia being reduced and scattered throughout the dungeon, Violent Garden being weakened, Junk Make being nerfed, etc.) As soon as I'm done making sure that everything works right, I'll post it.

>>19605226
It does not. Trust me, I've gone over the source with a fine-toothed comb. Maybe you're thinking of the "Block dust" setting that was added to E+? It prevents urine/shit/vomit from being generated, but doesn't remove the thirst mechanic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19605260
Then I was thinking of this: >>19524764
From the last thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19605271
meant for >>19605188 too

[Anonymous No.]

>>19605271
Ah, so I'm not the only recent modder, eh? Not surprising; BloodyShade really outdid himself with that code refactoring of his. Well, the more the merrier, I say.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19603278
Found it. Gavela's lab in Melugas has one.

[Anonymous No.]

Smashing the walls of the venue apart because they're stopping people from watching your band's performance is pretty fucking rock and roll.

[Anonymous No.]

What's wrong with this Defender AI? It casts Holy Shield and then unless it's already in melee range just sits there spamming "doesn't know how to respond to the situation".

[Anonymous No.]

>>19607808
The attack (melee) line is the issue.
The defender will always try to do a melee attack when his HP is above 24%, even if there are no enemies around because there is no target check lines stopping him from spamming it (like "target distance = 1").

[Anonymous No.]

>>19609247
Shit, I'm blind and missed your target check line. I think the issue is the HP checks for the movement lines but I will first get new pair of glasses before I post more stupid shit again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19609266
Close, but no cigar.
>>19607808
It's an issue of order. The target of move forward and away is the pet itself if you write it like that. Set it up so 7-8 and 9-10 check for enemy distance first and pet health later, like you did with 5-6.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19607808
You've got some unnecessary lines there. Remember, Custom AI checks from top to bottom and executes the first valid line it finds. So if "HP < 25%" is already covered, you don't need to specify "HP >= 25%" afterward.

[Anonymous No.]

>Finally find a gem cutter this morning
>Go do minotaur quest
>Find 3 (THREE) on the first floor

[Anonymous No.]

I want to play this Elona shit but the gdrive seems to be dead
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oolgLAkOQ_kiwiJ76yWvZvFXxzlzku2C/view

should I just go for Elona+ Custom?

[Anonymous No.]

Who's in charge of the English translation? Alternatively, can I edit the translation myself? For example right now the options for riding say some weird shit instead of "ride" and "be ridden"

[Anonymous No.]

>>19612596
>Who's in charge of the English translation?
Do you mean for Elona+, Elona+ Custom, or Elona Omake Overhaul? Elona+ Custom has a GitHub project for translation, if memory serves. I believe Elona OO's translation team has a Discord.
>Alternatively, can I edit the translation myself?
I'm only familiar with Elona+ Custom, but you definitely can there; the source code for E+C is provided with the download.
>For example right now the options for riding say some weird shit instead of "ride" and "be ridden"
With Elona+ Custom, you can find the strings for that in source.hsp by searching for "#deffunc txtsetride". If you're using Elona+ Custom v1.81.1, it starts on line 9578.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19612273
E+C is the patrician choice.
get 1.81 and dive in

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw pee pee wee wee on the bad guys so they know they fucked up

[Anonymous No.]

>>19613030
>patrician choice
>1.81

what a fucking pee pee wee wee pleb
1.75 masterrace

[Anonymous No.]

What is the optimal setup for a tanky and murdering fire dragon child?

1 - Head
2 - Body
3 - Neck
4 - Ring
5 - Back
6 - Hand (claymore)
7 - Hand (claymore)
8 - Hand (scythe)
9 - Hand (scythe)
10 - Arm
11 - Feet
12 - Ammo
13 - Shoot

You guys think my fire dragon party will be unbeatable like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19614213
An optimal setup would involve all weapons using the same skill and lightsabers are the best weapon type.

Since you're in plus, I'd also recommend against multiple multi-hand pets. A more efficient route would to be to engineer only a single hand onto each of them, and then equip them with >4.0s lightsabers. This will allow the use of the two hand skill despite using only a single equipment slot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19611381
nice thumbnail

[Anonymous No.]

>>19612984
Are you a door to door Elona Custom salesman?

[Anonymous No.]

Alright! Elona+ Custom-G 1.81.1.1 is finally finished!
Download links:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/148pPBa67CYqIyEQfr3FsAojdtfRpKdd3/view?usp=sharing
https://mega.nz/#!SRohyAwI!U6IFTCxqp8_V-J_4vq0J6OC0O4k2HnXRxQ6Oml-bs_A
Includes the source (naturally), as well as simple instructions for compilation in case you want to compile it yourself.
Some highlights:
-Undid nerfs to multiattacking, Gravity Sphere/Graviton Buster/Violent Garden, Nefia gold rewards, and Junk Make.
-Hydration has been completely removed. Also removed the Curtain Call "anti-AFK" thing, and that bit where you had to sleep before you could use items with a 24+ hour cooldown.
-No more "Sorry, this is untranslated text." All text in the game has at minimum a machine translation. I put in more effort where I could; for example, the Adventure Seminar should actually help people now.
-Some typos have been fixed (e.g. fire@dragon child), and I tried to make names more consistent. (Eye of Eternal Darkness->Origin of Vice, Vessel->Bethel, Ylva->Irva, Rehmido->Remido... I didn't change any instance of "Rehm-Ido" of course, just made the dungeon only have one name.)
-The Super Lure can now be bought from Stoke for 10,000 music tickets.
-Zombies now have a 1% chance to drop a potion of descent. (I totally copied this from that other mod.)
-A few new options in Custom's Tweaks menu. If you want, you can sell furniture in your shop, or get EXP from sandbagged enemies.
-Soul Mate pets can now cure the player of brainwashing with Squeeze or Magic Kiss. (Use Custom AI for this.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>19619646
If you sell furniture in your shop, what happens to the cash register and safe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19619694
Those already had built-in exceptions to being sold, completely separate from the "no red books, no deeds, and no furniture except wildflowers" code.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19619646
>No more "Sorry, this is untranslated text." All text in the game has at minimum a machine translation.

Nice. I don't understand why this wasn't done for Custom several versions ago. If no one's actively working on the translation of certain parts, you might as well run them through a machine for accessibility's sake. It's not like they can't be fixed up later on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19619646
Do saves from previous versions work with this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19620108
I don't think there'd be any problems. (Of course, you should always keep a backup copy of your save folder just in case.) If you already have Marking, it just won't do anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19620153
>it just won't do anything
Uh, to clarify, I mean that Marking will be functionally identical to the Do Nothing action.

[Anonymous No.]

Only starting playing a few days ago managed to get this by trading for 8 scrolls of oracle.
Is it worth the ether speed up , have 6 cure corruption pots by save scumming casino.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19620317
You could always give it to a pet. They aren't fazed by ether.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19619646
>Elona+ Custom-G
>Custom-G

what did he mean by this

[Anonymous No.]

How should I go about upgrading my equipment? Currently, I save up stacks of blessed change material (around 25) and up the quality of my gear. Right now, my pets and I all have atleast dragon scale equipment but I don't know where to transition from here. Nothing about the superior materials screams to me that they're better than what I already have that I should use my stash of superior scrolls on. The only thing that seems viable to me is to use my pot of fusion to change my equipment type to something better. Any ideas?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19619646
>-Undid nerfs to multiattacking,
>>19619646
>Nefia gold rewards
I love you, be my waifu.
I'll miss pee'ing on things but its a small loss compared to dungeons being rewarding outside of Nefia time again.
Fuck now I'm conflicted on playing this or OO more

[Anonymous No.]

>>19619646
>All text in the game has at minimum a machine translation.
Does this include characters that had the wrong text?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19619646
Do you have a complete changelog list for this mod? this looks interesting.

[Anonymous No.]

Fellas am i doing something wrong if im just gettign 10k gold per almost session on music time?
I've been doing ensembles all the time but max i just net 15k each per run.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19621373
party time* my bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>19620974
I fixed every problem I could find. Anything in particular I might've missed?

>>19621032
The readme file has a full list of changes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19621464
I remember <Rovid> having <Arasiel>'s text in particular. I haven't upgraded yet, so I don't know if that's fixed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19621482
I thought that sounded vaguely familiar. From the Custom release thread:
>Not a bug, Ano has this annoying habit of copy-pasting text everywhere and just changing the Japanese text, we've seen this time and time again. I wish he would just stick with the "untranslated" line.
Anyway, it'll be fixed in 1.81.1.2. I'll wait a day or so to see what else crops up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19621384
you didnt give us any info on performing levels so kind of hard to tell but seeing as you literally just press a single button i dont see how you could fuck it up. stradivarious solo gets more gold, items and tickets than the pet thing because its so much faster though
performing is pretty balanced as a money source; gets you enough to buy what you want like pots of potential and pay bills, but doesn't completely trivialize the entire concept of money like pet shops do. if you are looking at it v pet shop and thinking ''wow this sucks'', yea, it does. everything does. pet shops are probably the single most broken thing in elona

[Anonymous No.]

>>19621464
'V'iolent Garden inflicting 1 turn of Bind instead of 3, dealing less damage, and having a lower SP cost. (v1.65, v1.81''
Violent garden was nerfed during the time I wasn't playing Elona, and its still this broken? What the fuck was he thinking when he added this other than ''more gardening and therefore kumiromi bias''?

[Anonymous No.]

Do I need to set my PC to jap to use HSED3 work? Or did I get the wrong download? All I could find that's actually downloadable is a backup far as I can tell, but maybe its a dif thing entirely, HSEDBACK. Just comes up with some error in jap on opening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19619646
Is there anyway you can include a no spell stock option, so that when you learn a spell, you fucking keep it?

Only other mod I've seen that does this is:

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:27566

Which turns the game into easy mode.

But apparently thats the only mod that does this change that should honestly be a menu tweak option already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19620317
Drop blessed scrolls of change material on it. Ether has bad stats for armor anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19623182
You could use elosnack to edit your save and set spellstock to 999999 for all your spells.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19624466
that would be cheating

[Anonymous No.]

>>19622127
You don't need to mess with language settings, thankfully. Just make sure you've got the right download. (That's what the checksums are for...)

>>19623182
The Vancian spellcasting has been part of Elona forever. The spell writers and Memorization skill exist solely because of it. I personally don't think it should be removed.
Still, you could make the change easily on your copy of the source code. Just search for and remove the line "spell(efid - STARTING_SKILL_SPELL) -= calcspellcoststock(efid, cc)".

[Anonymous No.]

>>19621918
I had the stradivarius at my past characters and i thought ensembles are much better thats why i didnt bother to get it this time...(is this true?) Right now i have 4 of my pets with performer and mostly of them are like at 20 perf some 30. I haven't checked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19624680
Are you going to revert the living weapon nerfs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19624680
Where exactly are you downloading this from? Nothing I can find on google even remotely resembles the site in the screenshot outside of the very first result, but it doesn't have ''hot soup processor''. Google translating it shows all it has is some video capture stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19625504
The link's in the readme file. Also in that image filename over there.
>Compiler download site:
>http://hsp.tv/make/downlist.html

[Anonymous No.]

Oh so it is in the readme lol. I even read the changes in readme and missed it. Thank

[Anonymous No.]

>>19625504
Not him, but look closely at the filename

[Anonymous No.]

Ayy thanks for help. Added back Pee Pee Wee Wee (just the special act) with 0 thirst requirement since that awful mechanic is gone now. All I wanted to do. For some reason when I pick new game on this exe the game closes and opens itself then I have to pick it again which is confusing but doesn't seem to cause any issues

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>>19625125
I'd rather not mess with that whole deal, at least for now.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a way to text hook Elona? The usual methods don't work for me

[Anonymous No.]

If I want to use the moongate file from elona uploader, what version of elona do I need? since they keep deleting themselves whenever I try to use the show house on 1.81

[Anonymous No.]

how do I play as a slut in this game

[Anonymous No.]

>>19634752
Play OO with prostition job and feats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19634752
Stock up on alcohol and get everyone drunk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19605334
You might say so, but I just did that so people wouldn't have to deal with some of the crap that's been added. You're doing a better job than I could. The one thing I have to ask is that you change it so you can get stamina from enemies if their SP is below 0.

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>>19635861
You got a special thanks in his changelog lmao. Not entirely sure why. You are far from the only other modder who posts here, even if we ignore OO existing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19636091
Your guess is as good as mine.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the point of god items that reduce stats? Supposedly, it makes it easier to train said stat but I'm seeing no noticeable difference when using them

[Anonymous No.]

>>19633852
>Not sure if it's kumiromi or larnneire

[Anonymous No.]

>>19636555
Well, in Elona+ skill potential levels extremely fast already, and there are so many ways of doing it, it probably won't make a major difference unless you skill is insanely high already.

[Anonymous No.]

If i breed Asuras on a ranch, is it possible that one of them might spawn with a Twin Edge?

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Twin_Edge

[Anonymous No.]

>>19637551
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19637491
I'm just some random anon that knows nothing about getting moon gates working.

Any idea on what I need to do?

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>>19636091
I made a few identical or similar changes, and his source code made it easier. Credit where credit's due.

>>19635861
>The one thing I have to ask is that you change it so you can get stamina from enemies if their SP is below 0.
I'm going to take a different approach to the problem that this would be a makeshift solution to.

Here's Elona+ Custom-G 1.81.1.2:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1veZpVtQ15oGoq7cpfPFrragwif3ejQsX/view?usp=sharing
https://mega.nz/#!ONpRWRCb!v_RElbfNALjb8H2evYUI9fI6mi9d9T5OL7yy6JiT0x4

The Fishing and Cooking skills, as well as the Reading Party and Lock Break actions, have had their SP costs reduced by 80%. I figure, cutting the SP cost of accessing 4-dimensional storage by 80% was a good idea, so why stop there? SP as a limiting factor makes sense for combat and Party Time! quests, but not so much for routine tasks. Also, Lock Break no longer destroys an item inside the target container, so it's not a complete waste of space now.
In other news, <Rovid> now has his own dialogue, and you can wish for "dog whistle" to get one of those (since "AnoInu" kept generating grand pianos for me).

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>>19637693
I'm fairly sure anon was referring to tour pic.
Also, didn't moon gates break in 1.7 something?

[Anonymous No.]

As much as I love my army of jedi fire dragons, are there other pets I should be on the lookout for? I really want to incorporate some wizards into my ranks and The Exile alongside Fox Brother seem like a good pick.

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>>19637693
Moon gates only work in the omake branches, I believe.

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>>19637791
>SP as a limiting factor makes sense for combat and Party Time! quests, but not so much for routine tasks.
I think Reading Party has such a high SP cost to keep normal reading a viable option, as it has no other disadvantages.
It sounds now like Lock Break is superior in almost all aspects to regular lockpicking too. I don't think that's a good change. I'd keep the "breaks one item" part, since it's using brute force to open a chest, or maybe make it a 50% chance to break an item.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19637793
>>19637837
Huh I now have a reason to try out omake. Thanks anons.

I also have no idea who coffee girl is supposed to be, I just find shes good for asking questions.

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>>19637856
Even as someone who only uses pets in shop and ranches, I still think the SP change makes sense. Sure, its bettet han what I get, plainly. But waiting for stamina to regen is fucking boring. And the game is about having fun. Shouldn't not make an apect more fun just because it makes it even more better than the other option imo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19637814
Check out ''Victoria_Iris/Personal_Pet_List'' on the wiki. It has some silly and simply misimformed shit like thinking NPC fairys have the feats, limitations and bonuses of the player race (they do not), but for the most part its a very comprehensive list.

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>>19637791
i love your Custom-G mod
do you have a website or a paypal i can donate to?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19637978
>Dudes translate entire OO mod to english
>Kind of cool
>Guy undoes a bunch of old changes, adds a few QoL things to existing mod in english, machine translates some stuff
>LET ME GIVE YOU MONEY
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>19638014
too bad OO is shit :^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>19637791
Will you make a post on the elona wiki when you post new versions?
It would be easier to get from than old threads on here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19580359
It would probably be an action/comedy isekai

[Anonymous No.]

>>19641773
I should be able to do that, although 1.81.2.1 is going to take a bit to finish.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19638014
still doing a better work than ano

[Anonymous No.]

>>19580359
Animated 8-Bit Theater.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19637491
It's a character from idolmaster, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19637814
I don't anything about wizards, but for my money, defenders are the best pets in the game. Once per day they can prevent the death of one party member (including you) which is tremendously convenient in general and a must-have for permadeath play.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19637791
Could you consider removing the 'ragnarok summoned things don't drop chests' nerf?

Considering people are likely to save scum small medals anyway, this would be a more engaging source to get them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19547947
When will Elona get auto-explore?
It would be so nice if it was added, compared to a lot of roguelikes you can easily become op enough to never be in danger so auto-explore would be really nice.
But the on the other hand the number of tilesets is so low I'm not sure if it's even worth it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19652040
>ano
>ever adding something that would make AFK grinding easier

Good joke. But if you map Shadow Step, Violent Garden, and Teleport to hotkeys, you can basically o-tab your way through Act 1 Nefia.

[Anonymous No.]

How do you individually change NPC sprites in 1.81?

[Anonymous No.]

How does having a Fire Dragon Child pet works?

I'm supposed to gene engineer him all the parts except hands?
I'm supposed to gene engineer 1 or 2 hands?
Is he supposed to use a weapon or just martial arts?

[Anonymous No.]

Here's Elona+ Custom-G 1.81.2.1:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/17uYuMsPxpmLThL_neizsElV-FyNOfuFQ/view?usp=sharing
https://mega.nz/#!jMQlFAhD!5x1ougAyLPGj3b9lB34SgYN51bK-HopKA36g7APZgNw

Now with even more machine translations, so you can get the general idea of Act 3's story instead of just looking at a wall of "Huh."s. Also, high potions of disaster should respect sustained stats now.
NOTICE: Due to poor planning on my part, Custom-G's tweak settings were stored where any new tweaks added to Custom would go. I moved them, so there won't be any future problems, but anyone currently using Custom-G might want to disable its tweaks before upgrading and then turn them back on afterward. (Otherwise, Custom's new tweaks would inherit the values that had been set for Custom-G's tweaks.)

[Anonymous No.]

>Defender started to eat Egg of Defender
What the fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>19657710
someone please respond
there's a hand of dead on my ranch for like 4 months now, and i'm not sure if i'm supposed to give my martial arts dragons hands or not

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>>19660119
Martial arts works without tonfas/claws, and you'll even get up to double attacks later. With claws/tonfas/shields your multi-attack is capped at 4, without its 8. So not having hands means you aren't wasting that equipment slot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19660140
You can get to 8 attacks even without hands?
Is the double attacks really worth missing the bonuses that claws and tonfas give?

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>>19660158
The bonuses are static. They'll be nice early game, but endgame you can have up to +600 bonus just from stats. That'll completely drown out the tonfa bonus unless you have like 20 hands. You can use martial arts and it's extra attacks without hands.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19660183
Alright. Handless dragons it is.
I'll probably use the 2 extra slots as rings or arms.
Thank you for the help my dude

[Anonymous No.]

is there to use flame breath with there being enemies around in E+ i wanna train my control magic

[Anonymous No.]

>>19660656
without

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>>19660656
>>19660714

You can hit your pets with it. You can also just fire it at the ground, but you'll have to target it via * every time.