07th Expansion

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I can say with certainty that this is thread is going to turn out well!
Umineko, Higurashi and other Ryukishi07 works

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Satoko is a kid! what a loser!

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>>19325650
I love you.

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Umineko is a shitty story with a shitty ending.

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The human condition of Ushiromiya Angsty!

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beato

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>>19325646
I love that witch.

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I want to ____ Lambda

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>>19326235
Throw rocks at fat glasses man with Lambda!

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haha, those darn voyager witches https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHzrx42OWI8

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Just finished Higurashi. Still don't understand Tatarigoroshi. Did he kill Teppei? Did he imagine it all? Was he actually at the festival? I don't fucking get it.

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>>19326553
He killed Teppei, Mion and the Sonozaki family hid the body somewhere else, and the club members were trying to create an alibi to help him

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>>19326572
I'll add that Satoko genuinely believed that Teppei was still alive and at home because of her hallucinations, it's often the most confusing part

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>>19326553
>did he kill Teppei
He did
>Did he imagine it all?
No, but hinamizawa syndrom struck him right afterwards
>Was he actually at the festival?
No. It was the same thing that happened to Satoshi the preious year so Mion decided to not repeat mistakes and create an alibi for K1. So, Keiichi "visited" the festival with girls becoming false witnesses. Sonozaki men moved the body. Game doesn't tell you this outright but it should have become quite clear after episodes 5 and 6.

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>>19326614
I personally like to think that she knew Teppei wasn't home, but kept doing the punishments anyways so she could 'atone for her sins' and wait for Satoshi to rescue her

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Just finished Umineko, it's fucking amazing

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>>19326669
I enjoyed it too my friend

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>>19325646
Any help how can I set up PS3 voices with my witch hunt bootleg download of the original game.
The patches I've found are all for steam version of the game.
I'm going for the re-read.

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>>19326797
Why not download the steam version and use the new patches? They're better in every way compared to the old patch.

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>>19326804
I dont really play any games now so I dont use steam. Plus I see they added a new character art as well for their version, I don't dig it much.
I found my witch hunt version on a USB I downloaded and saved years ago. It was easy back then to set it up just from uminekowiki, now it seem its all deleted since the series got officially released here.

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>>19326850
Well, you can buy it on mangagamer or just pirate the new releases. The new patches are basically the umitweak patches but in higher resolution (1080p) and widescreen.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvqpZe5l_5E
i'm screaming but god won't hear me

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Just the MCs!

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>>19325646
>>19326235
This artist's work is a hidden treasure.

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>>19327407
Why do so many great artists insist on only uploading their work to Twitter instead of actual image hosting sites like pixiv?

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>>19326899
Man screw it, I'm a true intellectual and a real R07 fan and I'm gonna play the old school original version

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>>19327552
Even in its original format, the steam release still has higher resolution original sprites and backgrounds (960p). Not to mention an updated translation.

Christ, dude. How hard can it be to download a torrent?

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>>19327646
Alright then when you pushing that much for it, I'll check it out

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Damn, wanted to re-read Higurashi but dropped it near the end of Onikakushi. I don't understand what I liked about this few years ago...

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>>19327407
I want to mind break this cat.

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>>19329085
no man

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>>19327407
I want this cat to mind break me

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>>19327552
patrician level right here, voices distract from the music anyways, and its the music that drives you on

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>>19327552
>going with the release thats inferior in every way because of fake patrician tastes

New and improve translation with input from r07 himself and you can switch to the original art ingame. You fuck.

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>>19330134
You can say that as many times as you want, it doesn't stop being bs.

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>>19330134
>>19330355
Here we go again.

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>>19330134
>>19330355
The voices and music are equally amazing. There are times though when they detract from each other because they're both vying to be at the forefront of the auditory experience. When they're both in the forefront they distract from the other.

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>>19328679
Onikakushi is by far the weakest chapter in my opinion. You probably should give the rest another try.

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>>19327407
I want this cat

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>>19330297
>input from r07 himself
wtf, what release is that? steam?

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>>19330750
The new MG translation had r07's oversight. We don't know how much oversight though, just that there was some. The closest you can get to r07 approved. They didn't detail what his input was, but I'm assuming they're clever hints hidden in the text that were previously lost in translation.

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>>19330800
Oh I see, much thanks

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Stop please.

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>>19330818
Orrr whaaaaaaaat????

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>>19330696
Pet the cat.
Do it stat.

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>>19330832
Fuck off eva.

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The newer version of the game still doesn't come with voices right? It just has updated art/translation? Voices still have to be patched in by hand?

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>>19331182
Yes, 07th-mod on github has that covered for you though, real easy to put together.

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>>19331218
Thanks my G

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>>19331182
Anyone actually compared the old and new translations? And how much more did the new translation improve the story (or if it did at all, or they just fixed grammar mistakes from the fan translations)?
I see anons above defending the new translation. I did my first reading on the old translation so very interested in the new one now.

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>>19331409
Supposedly Ryukishi oversaw and approved the translation, for all it's worth. With that said, it didn't change that much aside from fixing some mistranslation, typos, and grammatical mistakes.

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>>19331409
Here's a graph to give you the general idea. For specifics you'll just have to read them side by side.

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>>19331435
>>19331453
Hmm I see, ty guys. Also one more question, how does the manga adaptation hold up? Is it a good alternative if one can't get a VN?

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*farts*

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>>19331475
No such thing as not being able to get the vn, unless your morals are too high to allow you to pirate. The manga is done exceptionally well but works best when read after the vn. It gives away a ton of things as far as answers go later on that make the experience less fulfilling, it does the thinking for you in that regard. Also half the experience of umineko is the amazing music and voice acting.

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>>19331484
the funk of forty thousand years

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>>19331492
Very true, thanks again.
I've been cut off from Umineko for like 5 or so years and now suddenly returning and getting a urge for a re-read is making me question all this new stuff that's been released and added since then.

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The real greatest unsolved mystery of Umineko is actually this puzzle.

Put 1 coin in a cup, put a cup with another coin inside that cup, then have a separate cup with 3 coins in it, but is there another mindblowing solution like the cheese thing?

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>Friend has been reading through Higurashi, he's about to finish Ch. 6 but he doesn't really wanna wait like another year for 7 and 8 to be released.
>He also really doesn't wanna read a shit translation.

I read the old translation and think it kinda got better later on, so I don't think it's gonna be that much of a problem to just download the old translation for Ch 7 and 8.
But what do you guys think? What should I tell him?

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>>19332499
Tell him to just fucking read it. Kai's translation greatly improved over the question arc.

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>>19332499
The old Kai translation isn't that bad, MG is even using it as a base for the rerelease (of course with heavy tlc and editing). I think he should go for it.

Though MG is planning to release Mina and Matsuri in this year according to Kouryuu and Doddler, so he probably won't have to wait too much.

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I want to BE Lambdadelta

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>>19332611
And what would you do if you were?

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>>19332611
Alright, here you go.
B.E. Lambdadelta, just as asked.

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>>19332652
Not big enough.

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>>19332669
Know your place you worthless piece

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>>19332669
How big then?
>>19332707
Still one of the best pieces in recent memory.

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>At his core, Umineko is a tale about learning to love trans-people. In that story, transsexual Yasu is a girl shunned by society and bullied at a young age. This leads to her eventual suicide, stemming from her inability to find love and acceptance. Only by accepting that trans-people are people too (which is delightfully likened as believing that "magic" is real) can the player prevents her death.

Is that an accurate statement?

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>>19332747
Just by the existence of Yasu, this reasoning is possible for Tumblr. What do you think, everyone?

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At its core, Umineko is a tale about learning to love witches. In that story, apprentice witch Yasu is a girl shunned by society and bullied at a young age. This leads to her eventual suicide, stemming from her inability to find love and acceptance. Only by accepting that witches are real (which is delightfully likened as believing that "magic" is real) can the player prevent her death.

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>>19332747
That's just tumblr appropriating Umineko's themes to push their own agenda. While one of Umineko's main themes is the importance of trying to understand and accept others, it's not exclusive to trans-people. Hell, Yasu being trans isn't even that important in the context of the story.

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>>19332796
She's not even technically trans. Like, she doesn't feel comfortable in her body as a female, but that's all she knows because that's how she was raised.

It's like having a meal that on the outside, looks like what your mom always cooked for supper. When you take a bite, the ingredients are all different and is only the same meal in name.

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>>19332723
biggest

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Is there no full translation of Umineko Tsubasa (the actual game, not separate translated stories floating around on the internet)?

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>>19332817
also Hane

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>>19332817
The actual game has most of the chapters translated. 5, 11, and 15 aren't translated. One chapter is only partially translated iirc? But that's all that's been done. The chapters are short though so you can probably just use a text hook and a en-jp dictionary to read whats missing.

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>>19332826
Hane is translated but honestly Hane is pretty shit. Only worth reading for completion's sake.

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>>19332829
yeah I know japanese pretty well so I was planning on doing that, I was asking since it seemed pretty weird for it to be incomplete, and maybe I could try to translate the remaining ones but I wouldn't trust myself on my skills to that level just yet

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>>19332810
You sure are greedy anon. What could you possibly need ones that big for I wonder?

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>>19332850
A sandwich.

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I regret not reasoning as much as I should have while reading Umineko, especially first 4 eps. I guess I had given up to magic and the witch after all.
By the time I fully understood what the rules of the game were it must've been like episode 6 and by then it was too late.
At least I can still reread it and formulate my own theories about the murders in each game.

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>>19332808
>She's not even technically trans. Like, she doesn't feel comfortable in her body as a female
Isn't that basically gender dysphoria though? I mean, I disagree with the tumblr interpretation of the story, Umineko is much more than that. But it's not like you need to take the opposite side and say that Sayo isn't 'technically' trans, that's bullshit.

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>>19332955
We can redeem ourselves with WTC5

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>>19333069
Maybe, I've still gotta read Higurashi too, thing is that Umineko tempts you into stopping thought so it's something that you've got to realize on your own, that you have to find that determination to reason it out no matter what. WTC5 might end up being a more orthodox mystery (or it might as well not be mystery at all).

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I hate reading R07's works because they make me want to write my own VN, but then whenever I think of something I start overthinking about whether or not it'll work out and other trivial things like that. I kind of wish R07 would talk more about his earlier drafts of Hinamizawa Bus Stop, his art and previous (if any) works because I refuse to believe that a genius like him would just pop out of nowhere. The only interview I know of his is the one before the release of Trianthology IIRC,

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>>19333093
It won't work out if you believe that it won't work out. Your magic is weak, son.

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>>19333079
If I give in to that temptation again, a witch can eat me.

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>>19326235
>when you tell her she's your first time

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>>19333095
Magic isn't real. A writer becomes talented through hard work!

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>>19333093
>whenever I think of something I start overthinking about whether or not it'll work out and other trivial things like that.
Don't attempt to make a masterpiece on your first try. I recommend having your first project be something you will enjoy creating to make it easy on yourself as you learn the first steps. It can even be adapting a short story or major scene you've already written before. If you can pull off a small personal project, you'll know you're ready for something bigger. You'll also have to put in the effort to get people to read your VN, so don't put your expectations on having lots of people read it. Too much passion and high expectations often ends up with heartache, so do it because you enjoy it.
Ryukishi got really lucky. Part of the reason Higurashi got popular is that the free demo discs he was giving away got hacked, unlocking the full version of the first 4 episodes.

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I doubt anyone's interested, but the current idea is that the story takes place in an isolated boarding school and the main character is your average MC who's seen as a delinquent by others when he's really just depressed and unmotivated. There he meets an endlessly optimistic girl who declares that she'll never let anyone suffer alone because she believes that people who were unhappy when they were young end up growing up to be bad-natured adults and in her point of view, all evil in the world is caused by adults. Together, they constantly clash in their beliefs, meet new friends and figure out the mystery (still not decided what it's gonna be) behind the school. Kinda like Higurashi meets Higanbana meets Umineko meets Corpse Party meets Harry Potter meets Danganronpa. [/spoiler]
>>19333278
Hm...Okay, I understand. I haven't written seriously in years; the only stories I have are a couple really cheesy ones about gingerbread cookies from third grade or something. I'll try and do something shorter and then maybe move onto bigger projects, Hinamizawa Bus Stop is pretty short, right? But it eventually evolved into Higurashi, so that means anything is salvageable if you really put your heart into it. I'll do it, I swear to god, I'll make something and even if it's shit I'll try and take a lesson from it.
>Part of the reason Higurashi got popular is that the free demo discs he was giving away got hacked, unlocking the full version of the first 4 episodes.
I never knew this, jeez. Poor guy must've felt awful.

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>>19333278
>Part of the reason Higurashi got popular is that the free demo discs he was giving away got hacked, unlocking the full version of the first 4 episodes.
What!? is this true?

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>>19333277
Hard work is magic, son.

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>>19333550
I slightly misremembered, it was only 3 episodes.

"Around EP3, Higurashi started getting a lot of recognition online.
BT had convinced him to release a trial version with the first arc, which helped promote it.
The trial version actually had the data for the 2nd and 3rd arcs, but they were supposed to be inaccessible. As Ryukishi was eating in a ramen shop, though, he got a call from BT saying, “I have to apologize. Some evil programmer has unlocked the data in the trial version…” They’d unintentionally released everything they’d put so far for free [I couldn’t quite tell from this whether it was another evil programmer who’d hacked it, or whether BT had left it accessible himself. I think it’s the first, though].
Still, this increased the sales of the 4th arc.
This is another example of how the success of Higurashi was completely unplanned."

The blog has been inactive for 2 years, but here's the source:
https://seaoffragments.wordpress.com/2015/05/19/acen-2015-07th-expansion-panel-1-when-they-cry-the-world-of-ryukishi07/

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>>19333567
>As Ryukishi was eating in a ramen shop

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Satoko has a untatractive boybutt, how can she live knowing that?
I just don't get it.
as if being a loli wasn't pathetic enough

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>>19333389

Honest opinion: your current concept doesn't sound too unique as the idea of having a misunderstood MC/delinquent paired up with this super cheerful girl has been explored before.

If you're really going with this concept, I'd suggest that you bring something new to the table. Either make the characters stand out, or make the plot really engaging.

But still go for it. Sometimes stories evolve as we write them, and who knows what yours might turn into.

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rabbits!

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>>19334064
Yeah, I pretty much took the idea from Clannad, but I'm thinking of the girl being more mature than most heroines of this type and them actually getting into fights, splitting up and then eventually becoming a couple *before* the story ends and focusing more on their relationship that way. It's not a super unique idea, but coupled with the boarding school setting, the spooky atmosphere I'm going for and the mystery, I think I'm aiming for the right direction for now. At least it's not a literal ripoff of Higurashi like my even older draft was. If anyone's interested I might post some character art or backgrounds once I get to that part, though maybe this isn't the right thread for it.

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>>19334308

Honestly, you could go as far to make them a couple immediately at the start of the story. It feels like many stories way too often do this thing where the boy and the girl don't get along, but after some time learn they actually care about each other and end up together at the end of the story. It's just such an overused concept.

I think having them be a couple immediately and then exploring their relationship/dynamics would be more interesting, personally.

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>>19334064
I disagree with you on the fundamental basis that any concept can be good if executed well. Sure, Manic Pixie Dream Girl is a trope, but you can still play it well, even if you play it straight.

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>>19334458

It can certainly be executed well. But from the premise alone, it doesn't sound very inspired, and many people look at the summaries or premises of the game/story before checking it out. So I think the genera premise would draw a larger audience if it sounded like something more unique rather than something that has already been seen before.

But I definitely agree with your POV.

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>>19334428
>>19334486
Don't get me wrong, I don't mean to just use her as a plot device that's constantly jerking the MC off and being a doormat, I have a more mature personality in mind for her; like how Rena's really emotional and positive, but also considerate and surprisingly smart. She's not afraid to call out Keichi out on his bullshit either.
I'd rather have them both start out as new students since writing an existing couple right off the bat sounds pretty intimidating desu.
Can't say much about in regards to the premise being boring, it's the first idea I've liked as much and I think it's simple enough for it to work out; I just have to iron out the details and figure out what I want the mystery to be. A vanilla murder mystery could work in a novel form the golden age of detective fiction, but I'm trying to come up with something with more 'oomph'.

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>>19332955
I read it right after reading Higurashi so I was caught up in the "trust your friends" feeling and had absolute faith in Battler's family like Battler did.

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Did hideyoshi have sin?

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>>19333066
Gender dysphoria doesn't mean you're trans though. Though it's often a symptom.

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>>19335127
Caused his son to be fat

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>>19335194
What makes Yasu trans is the fact that her gender identity differs from the one Nanjo assigned her

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>>19333066
I probably worded it terribly or perhaps it actually me aiming my own thoights wrong. I'll try to word it differently.

Sayo was born male, raised female, and lives as a female. By definition that means she is trans. However, she didnt arrive there of her own volition. Now, she doesn't feel comfortable in her body, insofaras she thinks she's female. Thats partly why experimented with being Kanon. She wasnts to be female because its what she knows and its what Battler is interested in, but she still has dysphoria even when living as the opposite sex of her birth. It's like uncertain reverse trans? If that makes sense. Her body and mind lie with one sex, her heart lies with another, but the soul of her being isn't sure of anything other than: Sayo is Sayo

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>>19335300
That's not trans, she feels tortured/dysphoric because her genitals were mutilated by rocks and felt like a freak because of it, not because of outside oppression (her bullying was not gender related).The conflict isn't wanting to transition and pass (because she already passes) It was confusion on which one she was supposed to be/what could have been without the fall, and being some weird amalgamation that can't be either. Am I a girl? Am I a boy? I am inadequate as a girl because I cannot give birth, I am inadequate as a boy because I cannot make love. Furniture.
If anything it's closer to intersex. Or David Reimer.

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>>19333093
he's one of the people they talk to in this documentary, made when higurashi was popular but before it had an anime. it's sort of an interview but not really
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBVzmQlc_nY

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>>19335706
I love Cicada Season!

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>>19335773
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSw6eakeSbI

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Certainty doesn't exist.

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>>19336061
Are you certain about that?

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WHY THE FUCK THE PS3 PATCH DOESNT WORK FOR HIGURASHI
I USED INSTALLER
IT DOESN'T WORK
I INSTALLED EVERYTHING MANUALY
IT DOESN'T WORK
I'M GONNA EXPLODE

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>>19336147
incompetent!!!

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>>19336157
Fuck you, witch!
Seriously, does it work for you guys?

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>>19336147
r07 is such a master at writing mysteries that you have trouble figuring things out before you even begin to read.

R07's reach has gone too far, can he be stopped?

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>>19336171
>>19336176
What's not working? Is the game not launching? The patches not working? Or what?

If you keep having troubles I can upload whatever you need. Pre-patched or otherwise.

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>>19336261
When I launch it, the black screen appears and nothing happens, no music, nothing. I experimented a bit and it turns out, that it only happens when I install the patch, which is essential for it to work.
Could you upload first EP of Higurashi? With PS3 sprites, voices and background? I'll try to fix this, but I don't think I'll made any progress.

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I've finally reached the answer arcs of Higurashi. Guys, I'm literally shaking right now, I've been spoiled on a couple things like Hanyuu, Onikakushi mostly being a hallucination, Takano having a black outfit, Tomitake being in the army (or something like that?) and that at some point Keichi and Rena fight, but there's still so many questions left unanswered that I don't know if I'm ready for this much mind blow.
>>19335706
Thanks! I really appreciate that, looks really interesting, too.

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Anyone got the links for Umineko w/ PS3 sprites & voices 1-8. Steam version is not working for me, downloaded it and had the same problem as this anon >>19336336 when i start it it enters the black screen and just stays there

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>>19336061
I'm certain I exist

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>>19336336
Huh, I just tried it with my copy and it doesn't work now either. It worked fine before. I apply the patches whenever they're updated but I haven't opened the vn for months because I already re-read it. So I wonder if one of the recent patch updates doesn't work? But if that's the case it should have more recent threads open on the github wiki related to the problem.
Just applied the patches to my steam copy, MG copy, and the gog copy. I keep getting a "mono: function mono_set_break_policy not found" error.

>>19336636
I already have 5-8 of the steam version prepatched and uploaded. Only have 1-5 of umineko-project uploaded though.

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>>19336719
Well, thanks anyway. I'll either wait for it to be fixed or play it without all the goodies.

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>>19336749
Going to play around with the patches and see what file causes the problem. Don't give up hope anon! We can solve this mystery!

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>>19336770
I would gladly help you, but after a day of work, I'm tired. Doesn't help that it is 00:00 in my country. When I wake up, I'll do everything I can though! Sorry for being useless, at least for now. Thanks again, mate.

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>>19336813
I just realized something. That means the copy I uploaded for my friend doesn't work, and they lied about starting it last week.

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>>19336825
Maybe he didn't have time or something came up, so he told you that he played it, because he didn't want you to be sad. Or it really worked and he really did start it

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>>19336336
Upload a file called 'outputlog' or something. It's located in HigurashiData.

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>mfw I'm literally Satoshi in terms of personality and attitude, but I never got a cute big tiddy yakuza gf like Shion to help me go shopping

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>>19336636
lmao at the Battler boomer edit
>that 18 years old boomer who gets his entire family killed because he forgot some promise

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>>19336825
>they lied about starting it
Get used to it if you're trying to get friends into reading visual novels.

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>>19336711
That's good. That mean's I really did see you bathing the other day, you weren't a hallucination!

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PS3 sprites are better

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>>19336636
I found a full version 1-8 on mega but seems like you can only download 2 parts per day or something due to their time limit or whatever the fuck they use.

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>>19337080
But the bottom text boxes aren't. What was wrong with the old way?

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>>19337116
It's old non-steam version with PS3 patch. Seems like you can't change text boxes for Chiru

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>>19337080

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What's Ryukishi working on currently?

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>Ryukishi will never create Higurashi/Umineko VN tier

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>>19336813
Well its working now? I redownloaded all the patches and applied them and its fine. I guess one of the archives was corrupted somehow. I'll upload them later.

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>>19337182
You know, what I miss the most are the internet discussion. I really want to give another go at R07's mysteries now that I'm older and I feel like I have more "tools" to deal with them.

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>>19337283
Theres no discussion mostly because everyone has come to a general concensus on the answers. All thats left in the open really are things related to the meta but its impossible to come up with resolute answers beyond the realm of "heres my idea". WTC5 might help clarify things, or maybe itll muddle the water even more.

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>>19336857
>drunk rika getting touchy-feely with Hanyuu

that's kinda hot

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>>19337283
The closest we can get to a heated discussion nowadats is people arguing about which assets to use when reading, especially if it's reading for the first time.

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>>19337526
If you aren't reading umineko purely in script form, carved on stone tablets, in the original japanese text. Don't even fucking talk to me you superficial cunt.

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>>19337786
If you haven't broken into Ryukishi's house to read the original drafts while you tie him up and make him listen to your theories then stop posting anytime pleb

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Where can I buy this?

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To the lads up there debating with which version to go: Whatever you choose at least make sure you get the PS3 voices, at least just voices, I feel like it'd be a shame to ignore them especially now when the company that made them went bankrupt.
I'm in my feelings so don't let Alchemist's work go to waste.

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>>19337987
Voices are great the second time through but I wouldn't suggest it the first time. I love the immersion of the original everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19337999
Agreed on that one

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>>19337987
I try to recommend reading with the original assets first, and then reading it again by using the Alchemist assets as an incentive. Some people stress the importance of the first experience a lot, but I believe that Umineko is a story that's meant to be read more than once.

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>>19338008
I would suggest everyone read the story at least twice, it's so much better the second time through. I would suggest Alchemist everything for the second playthrough as it adds enough differences to keep you interested.

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>>19337959
You'll have to check Japanese sites to find one in stock. I saw one for sale about half a year ago.

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>>19337987
Like they said, first time you're probably better off without the voices. For example, you're not supposed to know what gender Zepar and Furfur are, but the voices are clearly a girl for Furfur and a guy for Zepar, which ruins that ambiguity.
Another thing I can think of is how sometimes several lines of text appear quickly and suddenly in succession, but obviously it's going to be voiced at a human speed, you can't have that effect of a barrage of lines.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>19338008
I read episode 1 and 2 three times before I even finished the series. Read some of the others twice. I just kept going back because I wanted to use the new information I was given and see what I could gleam from it all.

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>>19338064
To me it was fairly obvious which was the male. The demon zepar is known to appear as a young boy to seduce older men. So if one of them were to be male, it would have been him. The voice just solidified it more.

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>>19338128
Also the way Zeepar corresponds to Kanon while Furfur corresponds to Shannon.

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>>19338096
that sex scene in the manga caught me off tho, small panel but sweet

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>>19338179
What sex scene!? Natsuhi is pure and innocent!

[Anonymous No.]

now that at this point Haworthia has made it online please tell me that someone uploaded the trianthology soundtrack please PLEASE

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>>19338190
With Kinzo iirc. In some flashback they accuse her of cheating on her husband or some shit

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>>19337080
They are indeed, at least for me as well.
This Pachinko stuff looks like a 90's anime art wise

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>>19338241
https://mega.nz/#F!jAEXmaJZ!N_Xty3HCU8nbPeysQJO8hA

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>>19338241
Oh, where's Haworthia? I was looking for it every week for a while but nothing anywhere.

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>>19338377
Cuando los gatos de mar lloran.

[Anonymous No.]

Beatrice will never /ss/ you and do things like this to you. Literally why the hell are you not offing yourself right now?

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>>19337987
They're republishing the Alchemist version on the PS4 so i'm sure at least 07th Expansion will still get paid for it.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it me or are higurashi's VAs a lot weaker than umineko's?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19339465
You sure about that? As far as I know Entergram didn't announce the platform yet.

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>>19339575
Umineko got a perfect 10/10 cast, near impossible to top for a VN but Higurashi's still pretty good, I especially like Mion/Shion, Rena and of course Miyo/Eva is the best as always

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>>19339575
Both suck and detract from the original experience.

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>>19339575
I can't hate based Rena's VA.

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>>19338478
Weird how they left out the title screen music and most of Alice's tracks including all variants of the trial music/ Usagi's track.

>>19338554
https://mega.nz/#!gXZAFB4L!RVRcSXiB-OXCfJxk11ktRCsfS-ORlOc3DF8lklQ40r8

It's in .wav but it's the best we're gonna get

[Anonymous No.]

Was the message of Umineko correct? Or rather than the message, the circumstances it presented are forgivable?

I've been pondering on this for years. You can put yourself beyond the past and move on from a tragedy you could have not prevented, but is it okay to forgive your parents and some guy who broke his dick and was in love with your brother simply because they are dead, even though they caused the downfall or death in the life of about 20 others?

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>>19340042
It doesn't ask for forgiving, only understanding. They are different.

[Anonymous No.]

What should I ask ryukishi when i seem him in finland this month

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>>19340270
Is Lambdadelta virgin?

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>>19340270
Is Yasu trans?

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>>19339636
Is this bait?

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>>19340289
I think it's hard to call yasu trans when it wasn't her own decision

[Anonymous No.]

>>19340289
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2INV9zGrN6U&t=15m

[Anonymous No.]

>>19340270
What's Battler Blanco's powerlevel?

[Anonymous No.]

Best whore!

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>>19340626
Did she have implied sex with even one person in the entire series? All the other Primavera girls did with Rose being the most explicit.

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>>19340343
kek

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>>19340655
Rose is so pathetic, i don't know how people can take her serious after seeing her naked butt! lewd!

[Anonymous No.]

Is manga's ending of Umineko better then VN's ending?

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[Anonymous No.]

>>19341042
Cum

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>>19341086
Rude

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>>19341042
>>19341095
Truly the Chiesters are the real reason to read Umineko, the thought of their fluffy rabbit butts fills me with delight.

[Anonymous No.]

Here's the first 5 chapters of higurashi with the ps3 patches for that one anon.
#F!ja50iIBI!UURN_95qM4ENZDao9pXZFw

Here's all of umineko with ps3 patches for the other anon.
gdrive links
(1-4) 1pZ96xBBczmD-U-Gg9dwYBYXNoKb1pBLA
(5-8) 1cb1hwEawNUJ-IVsJhr-7L5jcbChPwzx8
(umi-project 1-5) 1u0lOZ0DqxwC0UH2uEyLIh42LBBl41wQm

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>>19341095
Cum!!

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVYDygoz3ao

[Anonymous No.]

How did Ryuukishi's art quality drop so much between Higurashi and Umineko?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341396
It only looks worse to you because of the change in styles (like the lack of cheap gradients), his overall skill improved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341396
I never noticed how big are Bern titties.

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>>19341455
Holy shit neither did I.
I always just thought of her as flat or at least smoll.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341455
Yeah, it's disgusting and easily the worst part of the original art together with Lambda's big rack. Thankfully every other design changed this atrocity.

[Anonymous No.]

I hope you are getting ready for the 7th, anon!

[Anonymous No.]

Lately, I've been hearing the cicada sound effect even when I'm not playing Higurashi, almost like I've left my computer on by accident or something like that. It's gotten me spooked on more than one occasion... I just hope it's not Oyashiro-sama's curse.
On a lighter note, I'm almost done with Meakashi.
>>19341396
It's just more toned down and cel-shaded, his anatomy, colouring and expressions have all improved drastically. Personally, I dig the early-2000's cheap gradient look, but Umineko's also beautiful in its simplicity letting the designs really shine through on their own.
>>19341481
I'm not sure if you're being ironic or not, but girls with big boobs aren't gross. Just because she's a Rika expy doesn't mean she has to be a flat loli, too.

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>>19341561
I was joking of course, but yeah, I'm not a big fan and I like to see Bern and Lambda portrayed as children (also Rika needs to be flat, always). It's my only pet peeve with the original sprites.

[Anonymous No.]

Will wtc5 be able to surpass Umineko's soundtrack?

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>>19341604
I don't see either one of them as being that childish, but I see your point. Still, calling it a "fix" makes it sound kind of wrong, at least in my opinion. I agree on Rika having to be flat, anything else would be a sin.

[Anonymous No.]

What would Rika look like as a milf? I hope she would be sporting a motherly over-the-shoulder ponytail.

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>>19341829
She'd probably look just like Stella from RGD

[Anonymous No.]

Would you a lambda?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341926
Certainly

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>>19341129
much love anon!! (umineko anon here)

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>>19341129
Fucking thank you! (Higurashi Anon here, will report as soon as I download it.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342536
How much care did it take Erika to grow her hair like that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342536
Okay, a bit retarded question here. How do I download it? When I paste it into google it just searches for 4chan archives.

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>>19342589
Its just specific location, you have to append it to the mega link format or the google drive link format for the umineko ones.

So for strings of characters starting with #! mean you paste it after https://mega.nz/

For google drive character strings, after https://drive.google.com/open?id=

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342680
Okay, sorry for being an idiot.
Thank you very much!

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>>19342583
[/spoiler]This post reminds me of the time I tried cutting my hair by myself and ended up leaving the middle of my backside shorter than the hair to the sides, so it was like someone took a bite out of the back of my hair. [/spoiler]

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>>19342726
You're one silly person anon

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>>19341641
where's -45

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342680
OKAY! IT DOES WORK!
I LOVE YOU ANON, HOW COULD I POSSIBLY REPAY YOU!?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342856
>know that it is impossible for you to repay anonymous
>you will forever be in his debt!

[Anonymous No.]

what the hell is the deal with the 'child-like' beatrice?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19342761
That I am. I've always messed up my hair, so I'm getting it all shaven off later this month.
>>19342913
Wait, are they really not colour swaps of one another? I mean, if the one with red hair has a green hat and details, the one with blue hair should also have a purple hat to match her details...and why does one have such a muted palette while the other one is so much more vibrant? I love R07's designs, but these two as a pair are triggering my autism.

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>>19341455
She looks almost as big as Beato in the original art.
>>19341472
Big fat cat tats.
>>19341481
Most of the designs left her with at least a little bit of a bust. Some actually made her quite stacked, like OMK and the Episode 8 manga.

[Anonymous No.]

I want to motorboat Ange!

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>>19342856
The only payment I request is that you read the vn and enjoy it!

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[Anonymous No.]

>>19343242
I will!

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>>19343871
What's got Erika so hot and bothered?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343886
She saw anon's pathetic dick

[Anonymous No.]

When I first got interested in reading Higurashi and found out about these threads, I was a little skeptical on the state of the fanbase. How often do these threads get posted? Will I ever find myself alone, without anyone to talk about 7th Expansion with? But as it turns out, my expectations were subverted; we might not be the fastest thread, and we only have one thread up at a time, but that thread will always be there for us. We might not be as big of a fandom as 2hu, but I think that's also our biggest strength. While the 2hu and idol fandoms are drowning in needless spam threads and arguing, we're having naught but a pleasant conversation over tea whilst enjoying the view from the terrace of our own, secluded little Gothic mansion. I hope this peace lasts forever and ever, never to be broken! I love you, anons!

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>>19341926
A thousand times yes. Especially if she's looking like that.

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>>19343944
True words, Anon. These threads are really nice, full of very kind and helpful people. Free of unnecessary spam and wars. If this god forsaken website ever went down, I would really miss only 7th Expansion threads and it's beautiful residents.
Now, who's up for tea!? All one me!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343944
>>19344107
These threads have had its share of shitposters and spammers. I didn't want to bring it up and risk jinxing it, but I noticed that lately the threads have been going pretty well. Sometimes these threads make me want to take a break, but sometimes it's very pleasant.

I've finally been getting impatient for news on WTC5 and that new Umineko work Ryukishi teased, but I guess I can wait a little longer if it means the threads get to stay peaceful like this.

[Anonymous No.]

So what's with all these multiple scenarios with Ange? She goes to the island after jumping off the skyscraper, but then doesn't? Are these different fragments?

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>>19343944
I can relate my friend, I finished Umineko a few weeks ago and I didn't even know people still discussed 07th Expansion's work. As it turned out, a pal linked me to a /v/ thread talking about the umineko games and someone pointed out this place; it was a pleasant surprise to see that people were still interested with their work, as well as there being others looking forward to wtc5.

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>>19344406
You might not have noticed yet since you only finished recently, but Umineko has a way of sticking in your head for a very, very long time. That's why discussion never seems to die down even years later.

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>>19344306
that's how I see it, like different quantum branches that produce different Fragments

[Anonymous No.]

Satoko's unattractive boy butt.

[Anonymous No.]

Can Umineko compete with this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JiToRdwVyw

[Anonymous No.]

>>19346924
I don't know if I love it or if I hate it

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>>19340260
That did not feel like the case to me. The parents Ange met in the meta world for the last time were regretful and loving. However no one in the family which was in the meta world ever held any sort of grudge. It was a cherry picked and fake persona of everyone, to push Ange towards "Magic", which is basically dealing with her past instead of "Trick" which is searching for clues like a retard until the end of her life. Dealing with her past is the correct resolution, however the means it is presented by, or all the extra baggage it comes with do not sell in any sort of sensical way. Everything bad was fantasy and only the good things were real? Yeah, as if that would be ever case in a life, that's like forcibly trying to make somebody as neurotic as Yasu.

But the worst part is that she didn't even put her past behind her. She instead forgave everyone in her family, then got obsessed with her past and became a nun who writes children's stories and built an orphanage which got the same interior design as the mansion her grandpa built. Understanding is one thing but with the package of forgiveness as well. Yasu was an insecure retard, and we got to keep her identity and persona hidden out of respect to her wish. We only ever seen her projections and when we got to see herself, she was seen as a protagonist in a melodrama where everything revolved around her. Then the only time when she did not commit any murder, just put on a dress and wig and the whole island explodes she fucking kills herself, even though she finally found somebody who needed and wanted her. Does this mean the presentation and narrative are more important than the meanings they are trying to convey? Because it certainly feels so. A beautiful prose about Yasu's boring and uneventful life which made her very-very mad, until her half-brother and his wife killed everyone while Yasu herself was preparing to do the same thing, so instead of facing her regrets and sins with one person who was left alive and is ready to accompany her in her atonement she simply kills herself.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Hanyuu such a fuck up?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19341481
>>19341455
well, rika did say she wanted to grow up and get a big rack

[Anonymous No.]

>be me
>analyze R07's art style
>grab a pen the moment I've finished eating apricots for breakfast
>fail spectacularly
>mfw I'll never be as good as R07 and my visual novel will have to rely on premade assets to look even remotely presentable
>>19344190
Even if we've had a couple hiccups here and there, you have to admit that we're doing way too good in comparison to most threads on 4chan. Maybe it's just the nature of R07's works that puts off shitposters. Whatever it is, I'm glad it's there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19347366
what? nah these threads are shit dude, lol

[Anonymous No.]

>"Where's Battler-kun Kyrie?"
>"I-i don't know"

[Anonymous No.]

I want Bernkastel to find my old Sonic fanfiction and then bully me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19337159
Like, 5 or 6 works, som in different mediums. As workaholic as usual, not even Zelda could stop the Ryuu forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19347458
Psssh...nothin personnel...witch...

[Anonymous No.]

Is ok to be in love with K1?
https://youtu.be/7bsLnFBt4bM

[Anonymous No.]

this might be the most autistic thing i've ever compiled together in mspaint, but if i can't manage to draw a cute anime girl with it then i'll know that it's best i give up now
i really don't understand why it's so hard for me to imitate r07's art style; i don't want to brag but i've had people (admittedly normies) mistake one of my pencil drawings for a grayscale photo but i can't even make a cute anime girl what the fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>19333069
This, I'm waiting for WTC5 to get my revenge on Ryukishi

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[Anonymous No.]

>>19347733
No one can copy RK07's style, that is one of the reason why people love it so much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19348075
That's actually a pretty good attempt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19343176
damn very nice

[Anonymous No.]

>>19348021
What the fuck

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>>19348075
so do i kill myself now or when wtc5 gets released

[Anonymous No.]

>>19348151
We will all have a mass suicide when Ryukishi dies so wait for that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19348021

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>>19348188
that's actually a good idea, if everyone else is dead i can swoop in and steal his brain and pay for someone to fuse it with mine so i absorb his powers

[Anonymous No.]

>>19348188
Sounds cool, count with me!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19348021
What is Braviary supposed to represent?

[Anonymous No.]

*dabs in your sexual insecurities*

[Anonymous No.]

So I only watched the Higurashi anime, how is the ost for the vn? Is it as good as Umineko?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19348298
Not as good but still pretty good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpvwR_njFKc

[Anonymous No.]

>>19348249
just b yourself anonymous

[Anonymous No.]

>>19348220
The one winged eagle I imagine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19348368
Makes sense.

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>>19348314
I liked that.

A part of me wants to go through the ost for higurashi, but so far I've stopped myself from doing so. I feel as though I'll ruin an important part of what makes the game if I listen to the ost in advance. I suppose for now I'll continue to idle in limbo, one day I'll make my decision.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19334159
I want to fuck rabbits

[Anonymous No.]

>>19348298
Its good as comfy slice of life music and creepy atmospheric pieces.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19347733
What's top right.
Menu looks like Umineko, but I don't remember these sprites.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19348469
go read Higanbana

[Anonymous No.]

>>19348351

[Anonymous No.]

I'm currently reading Meakashi-hen and honestly, my mind is being blown away now that I know that Shion was playing the roles of both Mion and herself. I was expecting the first answer arc to give me the solution to the Watanagashi-hen, but this is way past cool, too.
>>19348510
Someone made a parody using Umineko's sprites as a base reskinned to look like the three romance options from Love Plus.
https://jumeauxroses.deviantart.com/art/Love-Plus-When-the-Otaku-Cry-183684723

[Anonymous No.]

>>19348598
I want to cripple rabbits.

[Anonymous No.]

Ramudaderuta is cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>19348021
Why is Batora not Staraptor? His hair looks like a bird.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19348953
I would think Staraptor is more like Will.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19348021
I replied to this on >>>/vp/ , and I will reply to this here, too!
>Shannon and Kanon aren't Gardevoir and Gallade

[Anonymous No.]

>>19348088
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19348021
this meme has so many layers i'm fucking dying

[Anonymous No.]

So what vidya you guys playing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19349282
>>19349029
>>19348953
sadly, i can't comment on the thought process behind it or anything of that nature since i only reposted it on after seeing it on /vp/, i'm actually the second reply on that thread there lol
sorry to disappoint you guys
>>19349290
pokemon sweet 2nd which is a hack of pokemon firered where everything is a sweet and i love it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19340304
Are you 2010s neophytes ever going to have an argument against this other than "bait"? Let's repeat it again for the simpletons. Maria's voice actress tries too hard and is annoying, distracting from the experience and making you care less about her plight when a grating uguu screech stabs your brain throughout EP4. Voices in general dampen the mood of quieter scenes that are creepier or moodier in silence with only the music or sounds of wind and rain in the background. This atmosphere problem extends greatly when you turn your attention to the sprites and CG images. Pic related sums it up. This is not scary. This is a marketing tactic to try and appeal to anime only fans of Higurashi. Maria is a creepy autist, not a literal demon. This is episode fucking one, where no magic is seen and it's a standard murder mystery. The faces are not moody, they do not properly convey emotion, they exaggerate with generic "anime creepiness", and the sprites themselves look too flat and plastic. They are too "cute" and like demon maria dehumanize the characters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19349290
I'n listening to comfy Umineko ost while playing runescape and vermintide 2

[Anonymous No.]

>>19340042
What's the alternative? Brood and kill yourself? The only logical thing to do is move on and remember the good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19349753
>tfw actually thought Maria and another person were behind the murders

[Anonymous No.]

>>19349753
I agree with you on the creepy Maria CGs, but the other stuff like the voice acting only serves to enhance the atmosphere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19349753

>being this irreversibly retarded

You're more autistic than Maria, holy shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19340042
>but is it okay to forgive your parents

In a sense, you can. They may have done horrible acts, but they always treated Ange with love and respect, and you cannot simply disregard that fact. Similar to what fatty said in one of the episodes, sometimes the adults have to make tough choices for their children. The choice Rudolf and Kyrie made was to save their family from financial disaster - to protect Ange's future. One may not be able to forgive them for their heinous acts against their family, but one may argue that it was done out of love. Even at the very end with Kyrie acting as if she doesn't care about Ange, it was clearly deception. She knew that her chances of surviving were low, and Eva was surely to be the victor. In such a situation she opted to make sure Eva would become sympathetic to the innocent Ange.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19349823
Which is creepier? Jessica and the doll with Jessica narrating and talking over quiet music and rain/wind until ahaha.wav, or silence, tension, and buildup? There is less tension when you are constantly stimulated by the voices. Do you feel genuinely sad or surprised when the kids lose their parents and Battler's screaming "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH"? You can barely even hear Goldenslaughterer.

>>19349824
Not an argument, as usual

[Anonymous No.]

>>19349861
That reminds me, what was even the point of that scene with the doll?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19349753
>>19349861
This is far too opinionated to be an argument. I've introduced friends to the VN who didn't enjoy them whatsoever. The reason why? They didn't enjoy the visual and audio aspect of it. They told me that they would rather read a novel which included the description of characters, environment, and events. The visuals and the sound distracted from the overall story that was being presented, according to them. This very same argument can be carried over to what you've said. Is it wrong? No, it's simply an opinion.

To reply specifically to what you said: You didn't like Maria's va; that doesn't mean others didn't. i found the contrast between her innocent uu~ and kihihihi unsettling. It clearly showed the stark difference between her two different 'selfs'. The same goes for the CG, it helps exemplify the fact how dramatically Maria's personality changes. If you think it that specific Maria CG was meant to be 'scary' you clearly intercepted it the wrong way. It's obviously demonstrating the sheer eeriness that she emanates during her mood - as the characters describe their reluctance to her attitude changes.

Nothing you said thus far has been an argument, it's all 'i don't like this! i don't like that! btw its a fact!!!'.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19348021
You don't know how much I have been seeking that masterpiece after it had been posted on /tg/ three years ago.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that Takano isn't a bad person, she just succumbed to the syndrome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19349947
You can take any argument about anything and call out "opinion". In that sense, nothing has any value of argument whatsoever. I do believe these things to be correct, but the initial point made is that while we have our actual reasons, people who hate the originals or are against our reasoning nearly always just call bait or have no argument whatsoever.

The original work did not need to show silly exaggerated CGs in order to convey things like the change. It's incredibly obvious in the case of Maria in the original anyway, and to throw that face into an episode that is founded in subtlety is wildly inconsistent. Consistency is a part of good media. To say this was intended to be "representative" over horror is a huge stretch not only just outright with the content, but also given how the original worked and the context of Higurashi's anime's popularity. The voices and CGs are about as eerie as any generic piece of horror. That is to say, appealing to the lowest who can only be stimulated by in your face "horror". Subtlety and tension building absolutely do have basis in objectivity, just as cleverness in jokes or narrative are praised over immediacy or in your face "tell not show" style narratives. These more refined elements in storytelling and media are better because they require more participation by your brain in interpreting what's going on, give room in your imagination without distractions, and because they build tension in you as the viewer. Visual exaggeration is less serious in contexts meant to be serious, and voices drown out subtle scene composition in terms of audio direction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19350087
Being retarded isn't a disease, anon, no matter what your mom told you to soothe your feelings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19350106
How rude?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19350097
An argument is based on facts. An opinion is not; you act as if your 'opinion' is an 'argument': that is your sin.

I do not find the CGs 'silly' as you say, I think they convey an important message to the reader. They are clearly representing the absolute (and apparent, if you actually read the VNs) insanity that Maria demonstrates. You go on to say as if to say the VN was pampered to 'lowest common denomiator' audiences, but I find that to be an inappropriate exaggeration. There is no way a serious person would approach them with that kind of thinking - they are not 'shock value' CGs. You don't see one of these CGs and scream 'aaaaaaaah!' closing your eyes in horror. It more along sounds as if you agree with my friends that you would rather it not be a VN but an actual novel. Would you rather that? Are images and sounds taking away from your experience?

Also, you act as if the seriousness of the novel is exemplified by the, dare i say, crude drawings of characters by Ryukishi07.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19350192
>you act as if your 'opinion' is an 'argument'
You're free to actually read the discussion about narrative posted in the last post

>I do not find the CGs 'silly' as you say, I think they convey an important message to the reader. They are clearly representing the absolute (and apparent, if you actually read the VNs) insanity that Maria demonstrates
Maria does not have "absolute insanity". She is autistic and abused. Her kihihis are only scary to the people who don't understand the imagination of a kid. She never "changes" in any way consistent with how these CGs portray her. She is not a psychopath. They turned the EP4 rage against Rosa from sad to "scary loli". The original also didn't seem to need to trick the reader into thinking that a nine year old girl in EP1 was a tweested fuckin sykopath, because it wasn't necessary. Did you only play the PS3 version? The CGs are absolutely shock value. Are you kidding me? Maria with fangs? Maria standing in an ocean of blood? Again, it is a huge stretch to say these are representative for the reasons stated above. They are inconsistent and align perfectly with other demonstrations of the trope. They were "clearly" put in there to appeal to fans of Higurashi's anime.

>It more along sounds as if you agree with my friends that you would rather it not be a VN but an actual novel. Would you rather that? Are images and sounds taking away from your experience?
Did you miss the part where I said certain audio elements are drowned out by voices, or "scene composition in terms of audio direction"?

>Also, you act as if the seriousness of the novel is exemplified by the, dare i say, crude drawings of characters by Ryukishi07.
They are a massive improvement over Higurashi's sprites. Really only the hands are a problem. I do not think they are crude at all, nor are they distracting. They are uniquely expressive, and where they actually are "weird", "creepy", or "exaggerated" it is actually consistent with the character, their context, and the scene they are included in. Their weirdness or creepiness also is done in a way that does not align with generic tropes. They do not look like generic anime characters, and thus can be taken more seriously, and when applicable, they convey humanity instead of being an anime clone.

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>>19349753
>>19349947
>>19350097
>>19350192
>>19350280
Now this is an argument!

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>it's another assets arguing kakera

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>>19350398
>You don't have reasons, you're baiting, but don't prove me wrong!
What else do you want? Shitty nude edits and garbage spam posts? Generals are cancer because they have no discussion, and these threads never have discussion.

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>>19350418
>it's another guy complaining about a single containment general

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>>19350280
>You're free to actually read the discussion about narrative posted in the last post

I've already addressed all of that, I'm just pointing out your most inherent flaw, which, due to obvious ignorance (its plain to see from any observer's standpoint) how terrible your entire "argument" has been. But I've overlooked that, clearly, which I hope you've noticed *though you pointing it out may prove otherwise unfortunately...

>She is autistic

Buzzwords, surely you can do better than this, my friend. Once again 'kihihihihi' is not meant to be 'scary', its meant to be 'unsettling' - I suggest you learn to differentiate between the two, it may prove life-saving at some point, we surely don't want you to go 'Ange' on us my friend. If you think those CGs are not an accurate representation that portray her, I don't know what to say. It's as if you never even read the VN. Someone is murdered and you think a 9 year old reacts with 'kihihihihi' is normal? You're out of your mind (as if it wasn't already apparent). Not to mention you acting as if those CGs are completely 'misguided', hilarious. Did you even play the game? Do you not remember Maria's 'endless' torture of her mother? You *really* don't think they were appropriate? Don't make me laugh (you did).

>Did you miss the part where I said certain audio elements are drowned out by voices, or "scene composition in terms of audio direction"?

Did you miss the point? Just kidding, its clear you did. My friends dislike the 'enhancement' from novel to visual novel, as you dislike the 'enhancement' from visual novel without VA to visual novel with VA. Or enhancement in graphics. Do you even realize your own hypocrisy? Your own sin? I think its time to reflect on your ways my friend.

>They are a massive improvement over Higurashi's sprites

I don't understand why you have such a negative reaction to meaty hands, i for one can appreciate someone who's hand can grasp an entire basketball. It's quite apparent you've never had someone grasp your entire head in the palm of their hand, I can only pity you. I certainly feel no negative feelings towards his depiction of the characters, but I certainly wouldn't say they're "breathtaking" or they "really add to the story compared to the newer additions". It's all preference, the characters being more 'similar to generic anime characters' is a hilarious apology, some people would most certainly prefer it to the original, and would take it much more seriously than Ryu's crude drawings.

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Reminder that this is the peak of Umineko shitposting and that nothing will ever top it.

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>>19350472
Calling something containment is another way of saying that nobody should have any standards regarding it, it's really a poor strategy all around.

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>>19350502
Fair enough. But the point remains that it's only ever one thread. If we want to keep it going then why not?

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>>19350472
>deleted already

Well then...

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>>19350498
You did not. You did not address narrative style and how it works with the brain to provide an atmosphere. You just continued to say "opinion" instead of actually thinking about narrative comparison and why certain works are accepted as classics and others are not, and others are continually dismissed with low ratings, and others continue to disappear with history. Autistic is not a buzzword, it is a likely characteristic of Maria which explains her imaginativeness and other quirks. Reading comprehension. And great job resorting to pretentiousness and joking when you don't actually have anything of substance to say. Nothing will come of this because I can only say the same things I've been saying which you obviously don't actually know how to comprehend, and you would obviously rather sit back and make stupid jokes instead of argue.

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>>19350528
What a retarded argument.

>Why does it matter that quality continues to drop when you force threads?
>Why does it matter that we're forcing all discussion about a series to one thread where the quality continues to drop and thus affect all discussion about the series?

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>>19350557
>autism can be likened to Maria's clear symptoms of delusion

Hilarious.

>Nothing will come of this because I can only say the same things I've been saying

You started off by telling someone it's "not an argument", I'm still waiting for an argument from you. Feel free to organize your thoughts in a more coherent manner and post them. All you've spouted thus far is how you don't like CGs and how music distracts from the overall game - which is nothing more than an opinion. All you've done thus far is say 'you didn't specifically respond to this single sentence of my post, you're wrong'.

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I prefer humiliation anon posts.

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>>19350608
Address the discussion about narratives in general and the comparison between the original and ps3 atmospheres, you stupid fuck. You are the one making there not be an argument because you don't want there to be one. You want everybody to have their own comfy opinions so nobody's wrong.

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>>19350572
Except the quality is fine, you're just bitching about generals on principle.

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>>19350627
I preferred mystery anon, or even edit anon.

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>>19350644
Yeah, the quality is fine right? MS Paint edits and constant unmoderated spam about pubic hair and defecation. Fanart posting that would be more appropriate on /c/. "When's WTC5?" Great quality. You fucking retard.

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>>19350635
>namecalling
>'putting words in my mouth'

So you've gave up thinking? If that's all you have to say, just stop replying.

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>>19350657
I miss mistery anon ;_;

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>>19350665
Address it if you actually have an argument. Everything else is you just being unable to understand what's been posted, and I'm not repeating myself for 2 hours.

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>>19350658
Please don't lump the edits together with the humiliation posting.

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>>19350675
>address my non-argument with an argument

???????????????

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>>19350681
They're just as stupid and old. They aren't even erotic.

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What's wrong with defecation.
There's no love here!

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>>19350686
Please specifically address why the discussion of narrative style comparisons and what they do for the reader specifically to provide different levels of atmosphere is not a relevant argument.

[Anonymous No.]

What would be the best way to praise my witch Bernkastel? I already own cats so don't tell me that.

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>>19350720
Become an intellectual rapist.

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>>19350735
I tired but the other guy in this thread just keeps yelling with his hands over his ears, what do I do next?

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>>19350750
Please specifically address why the discussion of narrative style comparisons and what they do for the reader specifically to provide different levels of atmosphere is not a relevant argument.

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>>19350750
Please specifically address why the discussion of narrative style comparisons and what they do for the reader specifically to provide different levels of atmosphere is not a relevant argument.

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>>19350750
Become a physical rapist.

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>>19350795
this might be crazy enough to work


>>19350757
I think it would be better we discuss this in person, let's meet up

[Anonymous No.]

Well, I'm nearly at the end of Meakashi-hen and I have to admit, I didn't expect it to make me feel this way. Some of my theories...were surprisingly spot-on. Others not. But what really made me stop for a second and think was the part where Shion enters "the world of demons" as she said it. The moment where she talks about Rena as if she's someone far more experienced than her really struck a cord with me. At some point, I had decided that I won't be bullied anymore and that I'll do everything in my power to become like the other people, the ones I see almost every day, the ones who have fun and hang out with other people. There was a time when I thought I could also make merry with them and forget my worries, but I was just being oblivious to how out-of-place I was. I don't want to die, but I didn't feel like I was living either. Whoever "me" was, I didn't feel their presence anymore and there wasn't a demon inside of me to make use of this body either, so I filled the gaps in my existence with vague ideas about how I'd have fun someday, get in all kinds of trouble with my friends and maybe even form a relationship with someone. I even came up with a plan and had set it in motion, but even that has already started to feel empty and pointless. I guess this is more of a blogpost than anything else, but for some reason Higurashi so far has been an exception to my otherwise repetitive daily life. I can read it for almost the entire day, get invested, relate and live alongside the characters. In real life you can't get away with just seeing things through someone else's point of view and be left satisfied; it just doesn't work like it does when you're reading a novel like Higurashi. I'm not even sure what to say anymore, I've just been rambling and this post has probably already gotten too long for it to be socially acceptable...Oh well, I better end it now before it gets too long and I end up having to think of what to cut for it to fit in the character limit. I could always just not post it, but I've already become too selfish to do that. Anyways, I hope everyone here keeps reading R07's works and finds just as much purpose in them as I do. Actually, maybe you should be finding less, otherwise it'd mean you're either as desperate as me or even worse. My mind's gone blank now, I can't even end this post properly. My senses are dull and my body feels limp. But I will still spend the night reading Higurashi. Sometimes I hear the cicadas even when I'm not playing, like toilet paper that's been stuck on my shoe after going to the public toilet. "Ah, subarashi". That's a phrase I memorized from two very dear to me games that jeep reminding me of an old friend...we would've been friends for nearly a decade now if I hadn't gone and messed everything up. She'd probably like Higurashi, too.

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>>19349861

>Not an argument, as usual

And yours...somehow counts as an argument? All you basically said was 'I don't like this for that reason'. I could say the exact opposite of what you said, and where would that bring us? Nowhere.

Stop treating your opinion as facts and just chill.

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>>19350959
>if you dont like what i like you're wrong

Don't even respond to that guy, he's about as crazy as Yasu

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>>19350342
I agree with the the original assets Anon, even if I personally enjoyed the PS3 version as well. His arguments are 100% correct and I was able to enjoy the voice work DESPITE its flaws, and the updated CGs are absolutely idiosyncratic with the original narrative and vibe.

Its hard to accept R07s art style when you are new to the series, but now I can't stand anything else but I have a pure, burning hatred to anime-only Higurashi fags and the treatment they gave Rena which is basically the same shit this anon points out them doing to Maria.

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>>19350999
Hate is a strong word my friend.

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>>19350999
>anime-only Higurashi fags

o-oh

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>>19349760
How is V2? I was pretty interested but no one to plat with so it would be with randos.

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>>19351044
Yet I still can't help it, if you call Rena a "yandere" you are the worst kind of goat. In fact I would prefer someone to outright hate R07 work than completely miss the point and cancer up the fandom.

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>>19351069
It's good fun but it's about as trash as the V1 release was, full of ongoing bugs since launch.

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>>19351071
rain is my favourite yandere from the loli murder anime cicada season ft. kitsch mulberry

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>>19351111
10 of 07

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>>19343944
My master Bern is so cute in this picture

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>>19351154
>t. miracle scum
Keep waiting for that special kakera, anon I am sure the dice will favor you someday. ahaha.wav

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>>19351071
Give it up. Higurashi's fandom was contaminated by the success of the anime flooding it with dumb secondaries.

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>every club member except Mion goes L5 in one kakera or another
>Rena goes L4 in shitty circumstances from Rina trying to actually murder her
>Manages to be the only person we see recover without medication because she chose to trust in her friends during the rooftop battle rather than claw her throat out
>Still ends up as the "KOWAAAAIIII YANDERE草ｗｗｗ" mascot for the anime crowd and subsequent marketing
Being Rena is suffering.

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>>19351261
Man I want these Ryukishi style figures. Wish there was some for Umineko.

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>>19351174
I would be willing to die for my belief in miracles. If I end up being unblessed by my one true witch, then that simply shows that I am unworthy. One who is truly blessed and deserving on a miracle will have their wish granted upon them. I will never waiver in my belief, a miracle is certain to happen!!!

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>>19351303
Do you even know how the Witch of Miracles operates? She will dead-end your hopes on purpose because its tied to her conceptual boundaries. If you want her patronage you have to make yourself useful to her and throw others into hell for her entertainment.also nice attempt trying to have your CAKE and eat it too. Miracles and Certainty are intentionally opposed ends of the scale.

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>>19351368
>>19351303
>>19351368
Throwing someone into hell won't necessarily entertain her. Show her a possibility that she's never seen before. Stump her with a grand mystery.
Bern isn't a demon, she's just a reader. Write a story and dedicate it to her.

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>>19351504
She's a witch that isn't fond of happy endings at any rate.

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Is Bern just a depressed and edgy Patchouli?

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>>19351603
You have to earn your happy ending.

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Is Bernkastel a good girl?

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>>19351865
Only if you give her catnip

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>>19350959
Read the rest of the posts

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>>19350999
I'll be clear that I don't care if you enjoy the PS3 voices, or even the sprites. They just should not be used on a first reading at all.

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>>19351622
Bern is just a cunt

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>>19351261
Shion's closer to a yandere honestly.

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>>19351261
It also probably has something to due with her 'episode' prior to coming back to Hinamizawa, it seems like she's the only one who's always been a 'little off' in the games.

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I want to make Mion my submissive housewife!

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>>19348021
this made me realize that even though there are dozens of fish mons there is no single mackerel pokemon

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What would the ideal version of Umineko be for you? Which sprites? Which backgrounds? Voice acting? CGs? Which translation? Any of the features from the PS3 port like optional OST notification or animations? Or maybe the Steam version's option to toggle between sprite types?

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>>19353049
Everything voiced by Ryukishi himself.

[Anonymous No.]

Who are some good Umineko Twitter artists? Ever since learning out about that awesome Lambda artist I realized I've been missing out on some potentially great stuff not found on pixiv.

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>>19353107
That'd be amazing. You just know there'd be some fans seriously arguing that Ryukishi's voices are better than the A-list VAs, saying that they're "more unique", "more subtle", or that they're the way the author envisioned the characters.

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>>19353125
There would be, but I just want to hear the author himself really get into the role of his own characters and try to put on different voices and say silly catch phrases. Imagine him going "Uuuu~" or "Dame da! Zen zen dame da!" and screaming "BATORA" and "BEATORICHE".

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>>19353125
>Author intent is now a joke

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>>19353109
Oh, I follow a lot of 07th Expansion artists. Here's a few of them.
https://twitter.com/kourengo
https://twitter.com/azisi87
https://twitter.com/tukuyuu
https://twitter.com/wtc173srtm_16
https://twitter.com/siro302
https://twitter.com/M2ya_3
https://twitter.com/shin19961204
https://twitter.com/nuatyo
https://twitter.com/Su0227
https://twitter.com/keyx1120
https://twitter.com/kagarifire_

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Dlanor B Knox

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>>19353256
Thanks anon! I'll give these a look.

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>>19353125

You pretty much nailed it. People would use the same tired arguments they use when claiming the original assets are the best. It's so lame and predictable.

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>>19353896
We can argue something that exists, like the sprites are actually better in the original than the PS3 version, we can't argue something that doesn't and will never exist like RK07 voicing characters. This is a stupid argument and you are stupid for agreeing to it.