Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1952

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This is a Japanese language learning thread designed by and for those interested in traditional otaku media such as anime, manga, light novels, and Japanese video games.
If you have no interest in otaku media or want to request a translation, this is not the thread for you.

Read the guide before asking stupid questions.
http://djtguide.neocities.org/

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How did あんなこととか、こんなこととか evolve to suggest something sexual?

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they just did it

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special message to all flash card user

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CIbBugfqeQ#t=60

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Nice OP.

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I'm dwindling lately. I feel tired from the moment I wake up until I go to sleep, I procrastinate, I haven't read for two days and I skipped mining 20 new words for the first time in two months yesterday even though that takes like 20 minutes of skimming NHK (not easy)

I have difficulty finding compelling content because I'm not that interested in some hanahira type thing and most interesting texts have too much vocabulary to not be painful

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10000 hours of thai subbed anime is both fulfilling and vital to your nihongo flower ever 咲くing

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matt said not to watch with subs because then you don't learn listening comprehension because you read and understand and guess from the kanji, which makes complete sense

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10000 volumes of manga watched and you'll reach japanese 悟り my piggies.

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subtitles that are comprehensible to you not japanese ones : )

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Well? Are you doing it?

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Tomorrow I'll get serious with my studies.

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can i get that printed out on some 2 ply

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Translate it, weebs.

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something very rude

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>>19282176
fixed

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>>19282234
that drawing is nice though

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>>19282234
stfu w/ the zoi shit ima fuck yo ass

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Is this shit good for a beginner?

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>>19282344
its gay

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>>19282350
?

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read air gear

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How do people keep up with Anki cards? Shit takes an hour or two once you get to a certain point

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the way you keep up is to not get sucked into spending literal hours on thousands of flashcards

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Imagine waking up and the first thing you do in the morning is shitposting

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got my coffee got my cigarette

time to post

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imagine waking up and the first thing you do is anki but you don't do it because it's soulcrushing so you procrastinate and do it at night which which drops your retention by 10%

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imagine being ゲイ and having sex w/ 男の人s

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It's not gay to fuck 男の娘s

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but if you fuck 男の息子 it is

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>>19282371
You adjust your daily new cards such that you spend 30 minutes on reviews+new cards.

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>>19282371
Just don't be autistic about it and only use Anki for exposition. Stuff isn't going to stick anyway until you see it a bunch of times in the wild, so you're just wasting your time if you're trying to go for 100% retention in the software.

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kek
>>421616213

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were sorry it seems you have dialed the wrong post please hang up and try your post again

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how the fuck do you memorize some
　
なければ　
どうやら　
どうやって
どうせ
さもないと
されど
さらば
さえあれば
としても
ゆえに

this fucking BULLSHIT is what's keeping me from learning japanese i fail the same 20-30 fucking hiragana NON-WORDS every other day
I have NO PROBLEM learning new kanji and new vocabulary but these fucking non-words that most mean the same (and yet, despite this etc) it's fucking retarded

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sounds like some weird eop shit

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>>19282565
how about you read you chump

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>>19282565
>i fail the same 20-30 fucking hiragana NON-WORDS every other day
Don't fucking worry about Anki like that. You shouldn't even be trying to cram these things in that.

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>>19282565
what the hell are you doing on this board without having watched at least 1000 hours of anime

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>>19282565
Delete them all dude. Don't add shit like that to anki. You should only be adding shit that pops out that you want to learn. All of those can easily be passively obtained from reading.

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>>19282565
by reading a lot

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>>19282580
>>19282582
>>19282584
>>19282585

I fail them when reading every single time and especially when listening it goes right over my head because there's no time to think, how else would I learn them if not by cramming? Isn't the point of anki to learn difficult words you don't pick up easily by reading?

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baby_crying.mp4

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You didn't even encounter one of them more than 10 times and you want to add these into anki? lol

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What's with this "let's not reply to posts properly" meme? I hate it.

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>see word 10 times
>add it to anki
>jerk off your 90+% retention rate

that's literally cheating, you got caught you shitbag.

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>>19282439
this is real

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>>19282618
Seeing a word 10 times doesn't mean you'll remember it.

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>>19282618
anon was talking about grammar not words

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>>19282601
this is a reddit repost

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You don't even see those every week, I read for 4 hours yesterday and didn't see a single one of the ones I mentioned even once. Stop acting like they're common and easy

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>>19282641
anon I...

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10000 hours of 実況プレイ or you're gay

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Why does Anki always show yesterdays new cards among the last ones? Is there a setting to show them towards the beginning of my reviews?

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>>19282700

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>>19282247
fixed.

Funny enough he does not even use the word read once so I had to be creative.

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>>19282700
>>19282727
Whoops, misread. I don't know if Anki can do what you want.

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>>19282727
>Interface Language: English

Another one bites the dust.

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>>19282734
“Immersion implies listening and reading

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>>19282746
I don't plan on changing that or my OS language for another 2-3 months. I can't learn Japanese yet.

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>>19282746
Windows is the only thing I can set to japanese. Anything else displays text at a too tiny font. Not worth it imo.

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not everyone is a neet that has time to translate windows menus for 5 hours a day and risk blundering something in a hurry

I have almost everything not as important as windows in Japanese though

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Aprender japonés es difícil.

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>>19282787
ay caramba!

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Mokytis Japonų kalba yra sunku.

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>>19282798
a̵͔̼̫̖̤̗̼̺͒̑̇̄͋͂̇͜ͅy̸̞̦̪̑̃͒̔͗͆͂̂͛̐̉͒͠͠ ̴ c̷͈͈͙̼̣̖̼̣̞̬͇̻̞͝ą̸̝̯͎̝͎̩̰̞̎͊͐̎̀͂̀̑̆́̋͝͝ͅram̵̡͎̻͈̭̟̯͎̠̩͈̌̍͐̽͂̃͜ͅḅ̷̫͙̹͇̱͚͇̑̀͐̎̽̕͜ả̸̢̩̣͔̜͚̞̣̀̽͌̉̓͑͗̏̕!

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>>19282641
What are you reading that you don't see half of these multiples times an hour?

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How many months of studying until I can pretend to know Japanese to show off to my friends?

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>>19282746

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>>19282809
tree fiddy but in its decimal form

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>>19282787
Argentina es blanca

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Why does 勇者 translate as Brave ? English isn't my first language but isn't it Hero ?

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>>19282816
brave as in a heroic dude of legend for epic victory

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>>19282809
better not mention this before you're fluent, they'll ask "haha are you fluent say something in japanese haha i've watched so much anime i can practically understand anime without subs (total vocabulary: 3 (watashi, kawaii, desu, imouto))"

If you can't speak fluently they won't take you seriously. Normies don't understand how long learning a language takes

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lol at this post ↑

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When did you guys make the monolingual transition?

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when did you guys transition

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>>19282831
It should be gradual, baka.
You start by looking shit up J-J and then mine all unknown words in the definition E-J. Eventually fewer and fewer J-J definitions will have unknown words such that you will no longer be using any E-J lookups.

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i have an idea what if everyone just stopped posting for 24 hours and learned japanese instead
imagine how good djt would be

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>>19282845
it'd suck dick because then everyone would be fluent and nobody would be learning and this thread would be pointless.

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would just be easier if there was a dictionary vocabulary deck for a smoother transition, mining layers of j-j dictionary is pretty much chopping your dick off without anesthetics

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but theres already nobody learning and the threads already pointless

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monolingual transition is a waste of time. English translations provide a good enough idea of the meaning of the word and are not much worse than a native dictionary. Any nuance will be picked up on by reading.

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yeah we should mine dictionaries why didnt i think of that sooner

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>>19282820
>Normies don't understand how long learning a language takes
This. My friend saw my textbooks a couple years ago. He keeps asking if I'm still learning Japanese. When I say yes he always laughs and says I should be fluent by now. tl;dr everyone you let find out you're studying Japanese is going unintentionally make you feel like shit.

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>>19282856
see what i mean

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>>19282842
yea but when did you start making the attempt and then how long did it take you to succeed. One guy told me it took him a month, another said it took him three months after only knowing 600 sentences.

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>>19282820
Yeah don't tell people until you could realistically do the weird things they think signifies fluency like understanding song lyrics and translating things that have no direct translations

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>>19282861
you should feel like shit cause you fuckin blow and are literally wasting your time blowing really fuckin hard instead of just fuckin doin what you need to do

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you can never learn japanese. you can transition to monolingual and keep immersing yourself but that literally equates to dilating a disgusting axe-wound in your fucked up split-cultural brain that makes other people think you're a creep

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>>19282864
>One guy told me it took him a month, another said it took him three months after only knowing 600 sentences.
It all depends on the words you're looking up. If you just did basic everyday vocab and transitioned to J-J it would seem like you've made it even as you mine 1000+ additional words in J-J. Then one day you decide to look up some technical jargon and you're fucked and back to looking up unknown words in the definition. There is no way to know for sure when someone has made it.

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>>19282871

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>>19282861
tbf 2 years of AJATT and you wouldn't be "fluent" per se but you'd be able to say most of what you want and understand most native material

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I don't think I can learn Japanese. I looked at Matt's videos and he had so much more conviction, like the way he had 20 notepad tabs open and he'd write sentences down while reading all day and doing weird shit like looking up sentences that use the word in his library of novels for sentences with the word, that's seriously fucked up and time consuming

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>>19282863
there's literally no reason to use a native dictionary until you've reached the point that bilingual dictionaries aren't extensive enough for your needs, by which point you're long fluent and will have no problem using a native dictionary. Forcing it just to make the transition is retarded.

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>>19282864
>transition to j-j in a month

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>>19282900
okay but thats different from what you were arguing in the other post

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>>19282861
>a couple of years
I agree with your friend, if your not fluent after 3 years you probably have brain damage.

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>>19282900

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>>19282896
maybe, but Japanesee isn't my main hobby. I don't want to spend 16 hours a day studying it.

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>>19282916
so dont

just spend 16 hours a day around nihongo

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>>19282909
You don't learn the usage of a word by reading a dictionary. You learn it through massive input. Whether you use a native dictionary or a bilingual dictionary it doesn't make too much of a difference. You might as well use a J-E dictionary as a learner then since it's faster.

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>>19282916
the BritvsJapan guy only reads 1-2 hours a day. These guys just passive listen to Japanese audio all day and then claim they've spent tens of thousands of hours learning.

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you laugh you lose

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXBgK4a3FWQ

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How long did it take for you to start doing stuff the right way?
>decide that I want to learn 日本語
>cram hiragana and katakana overnight, skim the first chapters of Tae Kim's grammar
>download anki and learn the first 20 words
>forget about it the next day
>a month later, remember about learning japanese, print the first GENKI book and read the first three chapters
>use anki for about a week, feel no progress and give up
>some months later
>after not having a smartphone started to give me trouble at work I decided to buy one
>download the Obenkyo app and realized I was able to understand JLPT5 and JLPT4 kanji
>feel motivated, download AnkiDroid and have been using it regularly for the last two weeks with the Core 2K/6K
>read tae kim occasionally, when I feel like doing it
>feel that I understand much better the conversations I hear when I watch anime or some japanese tv show, sometimes I can read the stuff that goes through the screen during the shows
>no rush, just learning stuff because it's fun
It's been about 7 months since I stumbled in this thread and decided that I should learn japanese. I feel that next year I will already be able to read my erogeimus without too much hassles. I wonder if I will end up going on and off about learning stuff again.

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>>19282940
>jikkuushuukuu

Why is pronouncing japanese so difficult for anglos?

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are you seriously looking up to a dweeb with a missing chin who says he knows japanese but doesnt

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b**tvsjapan is a poser retard but Matt and Khatzumoto are the real deal

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>>19282861
>>19282916
>refers to others as normie
>is a highschooler who considers video games a hobby
>has been studying the language for over a year and thinks it takes 16 hours a day
I think suicide is your best option.

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japan 2
the matts 0

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what do you guys think he keeps looking at down there

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you know its his peepee jug why you playin

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>>19282966
it would be japan over 9000 if you counted all the gaijjin cunts who think they're in a duel with japan or something by learning japanese or living in it

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>>19282997
true that

you dont battle japan you get in the flow or you get swept away

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>>19282986
guys wtf...... what the heck...... i think this might be scripted..... idk tho......

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>tfw just meditated and enjoying my green tea and noodles while listening to a podcast

this is how I become Japanese

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>>19283010
i never even thought of this

hes looking at his script thats written in romanji lmao

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>>19283014
Now to become /jp/ stop using the green meme arrow.

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>>19283021
nobody here gives a shit about /jp/. we're just here because the mods force us out of /a/.

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>Grind a row of kana until you stop making mistakes, then add another row.

Is this the definitive best way to use the DJT Kana? Any other methods?

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>>19283085
use remembering the kana and memorize the kana in 6 hours.

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>>19282820
Get mocked every other day for not learning japanese quick enough by monolanguage fucks

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>>19283117
>his only goal in life is to learn Japanese, which he gives up everything to acheive.
>can't pass n2 despite years of effort

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木苺になりたい

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何で植物になりたいのかよ

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>>19282234
Can you translate this letter from my Japanese friend while you're at it?

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>Japanese is the 4th language I'm learning
>Lost any fluency I ever had in French
>My English grammar is broken, mainly because my only writing practice is shitposting and I listen to too much meme rap
>My Spanish (main language) is getting more retarded every day
Is polyglotism a meme? Is it possible to achieve actual fluency in more than 3 languages without being a complete autist?

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>listens to rap
>wonders why he's fucking retarded

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Quick survey guys: How long did it take YOU to read:
- manga
- Lns
solely for entertainment (i.e it wasn't painful and you didn't have to look up dozen words per page)

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>>19283193
It didn't take me any time since none of those are reading.

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>>19283177
most people who say they know all these languages really cant do shit with them beyond rosetta stone tier communication

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>>19283177
Why is 3 languages the cut off
Is it maybe because you're a retard who was only able (lol) to learn 3 languages

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>>19283177
If you dedicated like 5 years to each language then year. But if you reach meme fluency in a year then you'll quickly lose all of it when you start spending time on another language.

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>>19283220
Tbh even laoshu (the black one) is kind of shoddy, he supposedly teaches Japanese but when you look at his levelup videos, now that I understand it it's incredibly basic

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>>19283193
all of the people who graduate DJT go to the 日本語 thread on /int/. you might want to try asking there

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>>19283220
Steve is a fraud confirmed. His post as king of DJT will be revoked and instead bestowed to MattVsJapan.

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>>19283231
>then year
then yea*

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>>19283233
the hierarchy is more like the tiered class system in bakatest

jp /djt/ is the f class : )

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All these people are pretending to know multiple languages and getting loads of money from EOP retards, while you sit here in this shitty sinhalese buddhist meditation board learning this fucking nerd language that you use solely to masturbate to cartoon characters
I wonder who's the real winner

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>>19283259
me because i'm having fun

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>>19283259
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdbunAfRweU

this is me

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>>19283259
joke's on you i'm not learning this language for masturbatory purposes at least not in the sexual sense

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>>19283249
>/djt/ is the f class
and everyone here is still smug about their ability. really makes you think

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>>19283259
>retard language that you use solely to masturbate to cartoon characters
ouch, that really hits close to home

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>>19283314
it really doesnt

何も考えず思うままにlets post : )

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>>19283259
ummm yeah

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>>19283370
Don't post this image ever again
Don't post ever again
Don't post

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>>19283379
or what pussy

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>>19283386
I'll get the belt.

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>>19283391
we can wrestle in grass if you want boy

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How long until I can read Heike Monogatari?

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seriously though look at these honkers >>19283370

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>>19283398
11 months, 7 days and two hours.

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>>19283398
until you decide that you can

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As a complete Japanese newbie I cannot even comprehend how can one learn almost 2000 different kanjis, this is incredible

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>>19283398
tree fiddy multiplied by 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

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As a complete retard I cannot comprehend how human beings have brains capable of processing and memorising things, this is incredible

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as わたし i cannot believe that ゲイ

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As a complete autist I cannot comprehend how can anyone can make an argument without using a strawman

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>>19283431
I used to think that even learning the kana would be an amazing feat. Then you just try and your brain do stuff, it's magical

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2000/30 = ~67
Are you saying that I will learn 2000 words in less than 3 months?

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dont quote me i aint said shit

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>>19283431
do you mean recognize and assign meaning to each kanji, or do you mean recognize and assign multiple readings to each kanji

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Why everybody is so aggressive here

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This is my progress through RTK so far. Am I gonna make it?

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>>19283544
i have no idea everyone super epic mad prolly because theyve been livin in nihongo spurgatory for years

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>>19283544
excessive shitpost, I feel that you fuckers are here all day long. This feels more like a chat than imageboard thread
it's the IRC fenomenon, people start to talk in the chat the same way they talk to themselves in their head

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>>19282755
>changing your os language to japanese
Why would you even bother? You'll only learn a few insignificant words at best and everything will be 50 times more painful if you need to deal with technical issues.

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>>19283547
how long?

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>>19283559
so start making good posts where theres no choice but to respond in kind or drown in the chatroom flow you helped facilitate

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>>19283571
It already reached metastasis. There is no saving.
I am not saying that is not fun, I am here all day long too.
I just hope we don't reach next irc status and we all become idle and the threads start dying without replies.

It's not my fault the posts I try to put some effort get zero replies.

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>>19283559
But is this a /jp/ issue or does only occurs in this thread?

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Anyone here willing to help me make sense of a single (h) doujin page as part of a full translation? what we came up with based on our understanding is pretty lacking and doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

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ill do it as long as you credit me as jamal of the djt on ur credits page

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>>19283627
what page?

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>>19283619
I think it's more common here in this thread. People actually (sometimes) post information or interesting things outside of this thread. Generals attract this kind of behavior but it's worse here where people come to complain about stuff.

I don't even know how to fix my own posts. Maybe I could post cute pics that I mine from boorus when I am bored.

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>>19283665
https://nhentai.net/g/221616/19/

page 19

this is what we came up with and it doesnt really have any context that lets it make sense https://i.imgur.com/wUVZT1m.jpg

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>>19283560
unihan is gay

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>>19283674

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yet another reminder you get what you deserve with scanlations lmao

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日本語の道は長くて険しいんだな。。。
でも、頑張れます！毎日暗記して、読んで、聞け！

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Konnichiwa minna, watashi was atarashi no gakusei...yorushiku onegaishimasu.

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ii jikushukai

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>>19282616
Autistic people think replying to someone's post on an anonymous imageboard is degrading

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anyone know what this guy is saying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOB-TKNVbJA#t=457

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No, it's because we're not new. 4chan didn't always have a reply feature.

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>>19283814
ok newfag

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is rap really even music?
it's like the "song" has nothing to do with the tune playing in the background

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if you knew anything about music you wouldnt ask

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>>19283834
>it's like the "song" has nothing to do with the tune playing in the background
What the fuck does that even mean

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>愛でたし
rikaikun says it means wonderful
jisho says it means happy
google translate says it means i love you
which is right?

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Why everyone is so hidoi here?

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>>19283849
it's just "blah blah blah my mom had big cock blah blah blah" or whatever, while some pumpy pumpy tune plays through the speakers

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whys your 顔 so ひでえ 爆笑

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>>19283739
衒学的だが「険しくて長い」の方は自然な感じがする。
お前の旅の前途はまだまだ長い道のりだ。コツコツと行けば必ずいつか辿り着くのじゃ。

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>>19283814
>>19283831
btfo my dude

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dont worry i get what he meant about the reply feature

you kids forget just how good and easy things are now

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>he wasn't here before th 43rd post

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@everyone

theyre werent here before ">" was a thing

lol

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>>19283855
It means whatever you want it to mean. all language is subjective

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i was here when moots thread on adtrw had more posts than his messageboard

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Do they have boomerposting in Futaba too?

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FUCK THIS

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FUCK YOU

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>>19283855
In modern usage, めでたしめでたし (twice in the row) means something like "and they all lived happily ever after".
In classical usage, Rikaikun and jisho are both fine. And google translate is shit.

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アニメは間違いだった

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>>19283559
what if i told you i wrote an app in unix that refreshes threads fast and dumps all the posts to an irc bot that dumps them into an irc channel and then heres the kicker i can respond in irc and the bot will send the response to the app which will then also post to the thread which will then be dumped back into the irc window

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I fucking hate smartphones, they're annoying and pointless
/boomerpost

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>>19283963
*in a row

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>>19283969
>だ stop talking like an anime character

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>>19283878
ごめんなさい先輩、ポケットモンスター金・銀には「長くて険しい」というトレーナーがあります。だから、自然的がと思いました。

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>not using yomichan

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>>19283976
>>だ stop talking like an anime character
stop talking like a faggot

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>>19283984
>everything sounds better in green text

[Anonymous No.]

This thread is shit. Can we make a new one already?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vprkhIyKhU
>japanese people

[Anonymous No.]

＞わたしはゲイのようだ

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>>19283976
I'll talk however I want, believe it!

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>>19284016
hed make a good american

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>>19283971
>app

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>>19284016
also im that old ass mofo that rolls by at the end of the vid

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>>19284016
Is that guy 3 feet tall?

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>>19284048
software apps were always called applications dude dont get so trigger my n i n j a

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>>19284061
Then call them applications, nigger

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>>19284068
shorthand makes life easier

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>>19284035
you need to be taller than that to be an american

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284061
>you must be 18 to use this site

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284087
im like 3 times that age

[Anonymous No.]

>that boomer who studies japanese

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>>19283972
They are surprisingly useful. Like I said in an ignored post above, I only got back to trying to learn japanese because I was forced to buy a smartphone.
You can make them less annoying if you always accidentally forget them at work and only bring them home when you actually have an use for them.

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>see that translation help post as a joke
>just in case go to panda to search for a translation of something I read before
>find this
Jesus motherfucking Christ. It's not only a complete guesstranslation, this shit is barely in English. And the best part: the only person mentioning how bad the "translation" is was downvoted into oblivion.
Is this kind of thing normal?

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>>19284139
go to hell fuckin sicko

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>>19284133
Everything you can do with a smartphone you can do with a notebook, and with 10 time better performance, despite the smartphones often being more expensive
If that's not the definition of mindless consumerism powered by the current society's awareness of status and wealth and desesperation to be socially accepted I don't know what it is

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>>19283863
Remember the average IQ of the group from which the artists who produce this "music" are derived and the audience that consumes it and you'll realize why it exists.

>>19283981
>not using j-j dictionaries in yomichan

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>>19284183
ive been employing a tactic lately when people stare at their phones too much

just smack em in the nuts and snap em back to reality

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284183
I can't put my notebook in my pocket and carry to the bathroom stalls to do my anki routine

[Anonymous No.]

You can start e-celeb discussions all you want but stop with the /pol/ shit

[Anonymous No.]

>click report
>褒めてください

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284197
I'll have you know that Japanese rap artists have a very high average IQ, Mr /pol/tard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284204
Why would you do anki reviews in public bathroom stalls though? Here's the thing, just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it

[Anonymous No.]

How can people even begin to whine about /pol/ when it's irrelevant rap noise that get spammed.

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>>19284018
私も!

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>>19284213
im the guy on the left with the high iq quotient

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWKDkg_Nioc

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284229
I do it during breaks at work. I don't have much time during the week to do the reviews.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284231
>jamal
>people

[Anonymous No.]

How sugoi is your sugoiness anon?

[Anonymous No.]

i dont whine i handle my business

[Anonymous No.]

I'm using the WaniKani Anki deck and was learning new kanji, and it referenced radicals that are not in the deck. Is there a more complete radical deck? As an example of radicals I am missing, they include nothing/無, worm, and "longcat."

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>>19284266
You are not cute

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>>19283971
Do you have a link for it? Put it on git or something

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>>19284251

Anki is really good for lunch breaks.

[Anonymous No.]

Anki fucking sucks

[Anonymous No.]

Anki sucks really good

[Anonymous No.]

Anki sucks really good i want to fuck it right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284336
Not when you have to review 2/3 hours of cards a day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284363
You made your bed, now lie in it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284336
Anki is really good for building your foundation for reading.

After you can read, the only things you should need Anki for is to memorize town names/prefectures.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284398
you shouldnt throw words like foundation around haphazard

anki does not build you a nihongo foundation and everyone who uses it for thousands of words sucks balls with the language

[Anonymous No.]

僕はちんちんが小さいです
２５センチくらいしか持ってません
彼女は僕のちんちんで感じないので困ってます
ビッグディック黒人の６０センチちんぽが羨ましいです

[Anonymous No.]

わたしのほうがずっと広いです

[Anonymous No.]

hey guys currently reviewing ahead for 1 day, working through 140 reviews. now i won't have to do them tomorrow morning.

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>>19284406

Being able to recognize the most commin 500-1000 words/kanji is something that's very worth doing in Anki.

After that, your "reps" should literally be reading shit and seeing the word over and over again. If you don't have a particular word down by like the 5th exposure, you can then Anki it.

[Anonymous No.]

Can any of you recommend me an app to learn some vocabulary that isnt anki

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>>19284421
NHK News Easy

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>>19284421
yes download this app

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsB2tBon6vM

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284421
https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/4s0ddk/not_enough_people_know_about_houhouimo_an/

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>>19284421
I'm using this one right now https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/learn-japanese/id1014955564?mt=8

Memorized kana with it, there is some vocab and grammar too

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284421
MPC-HC and some anime

[Anonymous No.]

Japanese grammar is retarded. No wonder they lost WWII.

[Anonymous No.]

Daily reminder to not use anki as it is pointless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284440
FUZAKENNA ANON BAKA

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>>19284419

Yeah. It's just really good side knowledge to have. As long as you're still doing some forms of reading, listening, or watching on the side it's worth doing. Anki + grammar is a good way to start.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19283149
huh , now I get why they call this girl a strawberry

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>>19284461
just because those are the only words your surely high iq brain can pick out doesnt mean those are the only words in the anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284467
Yameta kudasai, dont be hidoi to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284466
what the fuck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284466
なるほどね

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284457
yes its shit desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284472
gomen watasi wa betuni・・

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284482
the nterpunct

[Anonymous No.]

I am fluent thanks to Anki. Thanks, Anki!

[Anonymous No.]

youre also a lying son of a gun

[Anonymous No.]

I'm an idiot who's decided to use Anki just long enough to allow me to read. I've read dozens of pages of conflicting information about this, so I have a few questions.

>Should I use Core 2k, or a different deck? For full context, I'm studying Core 2k and a deck for radicals daily
>Whichever deck(s) I use, approximately when should I stop relying on Anki as much and switch to 80-90% reading? After learning 200 kanji? 500? 1,000? Etc.
>I'm pretty bad at fully understanding all but the simplest Japanese grammar. I haven't even learned many grammar participles yet. Am I putting the cart before the horse by learning kanji via Anki first? If so, what should I study instead? Tae Kim before all else?
>Should I even bother learning the most common kunyomi reading of each one, or is it okay to just focus on learning the meaning of each word in English first, then come back to learning their readings later? I noticed that it's easy for me to remember the meaning of each kanji, but if I didn't already know the reading in advance, I really struggle to memorize it
>Tying in with the above, whenever I use Anki and only recognize the meaning of the word or its most common kunyomi reading, but not both, I hit the Again button. Am I being too hard on myself by insisting on knowing both of them before moving on? Should I only focus on knowing the meaning of the word? If so, should I be hitting Easy or hitting Good if all I can remember is the meaning, but not the reading?

Thank you for putting up with an idiot like me.

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>>19284505
>and a deck for radicals daily
Which specifically?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284522
I believe it's this one: https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1044119361

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284500

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284505
I am doing the exatcly same thing and I have the same problems and questions

[Anonymous No.]

if youre not learning nihongo anki doesnt change that

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284559

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284559
What's the best, or even a decent, order in which to learn nihongo from zero?

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>>19284505

Learning Kanji individually is not the answer. Learn words. Readings will come with those words. If you learn readings words, it makes it easier to mentally accept that certain readings like せん appear fucking everywhere as you'll have the WORD internalized instead of the reading.

>挑戦
>船員
>先生
>朝鮮
>選択
>洗濯
>二千年
>宣伝
>線路

If you learn kanji readings individually, it's sort of like learning component parts of words without learning the actual words. Would be sort of like learning

>Count
>Country
>Try

And trying to base things purely on that, you'd end up confusing yourself worse trying to relate a nation with the words to attempt and to enumerate, and look like a real CUNT if you try to apply the pronunciation of "count" as it appears in "country" to any other word.

Another fine example, so Anti- as a prefix USUALLY works by negating whatever comes next. Antiparalysis, antivenom, antimicrobial, etc. However, assuming it works the same way in the word ANTIDOTE won't get you very far because it's similar, but based on entirely different shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284532

Using the one from the mega. Kangxi Radicals 2017 which is also good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284570
i dont deal with zeroes

[Anonymous No.]

When did you realize anki is parasite and a drug?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284572
Not him, but what if I tell everyone in this thread to go fuck themselves and decide to spend 3 months learning kanji individually and then I start mining sentences? BTW it's about time for you guys to remove RTK from the guide if you all think it's shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284572
>>19284574
Thank you for the advice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19283570
30 days.

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>>19284589
>go fuck themselves and decide to spend 3 months learning kanji individually and then I start mining sentences?
Your waste of time, not mine.
>BTW it's about time for you guys to remove RTK from the guide if you all think it's shit.
Agreed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284587
It's a known fact that Anki kills you. People simply just choose to ignore it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284505

Core 2k6k + Kanji Radicals for no more than an hour total. Adjust cards as needed to hit that goal. From there get some grammar going. I recommend reading a lesson from Japanese the Manga Way a day or close to that.

That should keep you busy for a little while. Once you finish Manga Way, try and start reading. From there you have to feel things out.

For fun I'd find some Japanese TV or ANN news on YouTube and test your knowledge periodically through your studies as a friendly little reminder of your improvement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284587
when i heeded the message >>19282122

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>>19284623
>I recommend reading a lesson from Japanese the Manga Way a day or close to that
I forgot to mention that I was considering buying that after seeing it recommended a few times and reading some preview lessons. Looks like I'll buy it after all.

Thank you very much for the tips.

[Anonymous No.]

literally anything you stick with can teach you japanese as long as you learn something new every day, whether it's RTK, anki, reading the dictionary in alphabetical order or shoving every sentence you see into google translate

[Anonymous No.]

just remember "japanese the manga way" is very much like "remembering the kanji" in that it doesnt bullshit you on its purpose

good luck

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>>19284505
>Should I use Core 2k, or a different deck? For full context, I'm studying Core 2k and a deck for radicals daily
2k is servicable for learning WORDS and although kanji is not words learning their individual parts won't bring you more words to learn but they make learning them easier
>Whichever deck(s) I use, approximately when should I stop relying on Anki as much and switch to 80-90% reading? After learning 200 kanji? 500? 1,000? Etc.
I started mining at 800 in core and after mining 500-ish words i reviewed core less
>I'm pretty bad at fully understanding all but the simplest Japanese grammar. I haven't even learned many grammar participles yet. Am I putting the cart before the horse by learning kanji via Anki first? If so, what should I study instead? Tae Kim before all else?
Read TK as fast as you can handle then start reading. Anything you don't understand can be looked up in TK or DOJG. Of course you will be looking in a dictionary a lot but its ok to not understand everything as you will gain unsderstanding through multiple encounters
>Should I even bother learning the most common kunyomi reading of each one, or is it okay to just focus on learning the meaning of each word in English first, then come back to learning their readings later? I noticed that it's easy for me to remember the meaning of each kanji, but if I didn't already know the reading in advance, I really struggle to memorize it
Just learn more words. Readings will come secondary to that and you will be able to guess readings later
>Tying in with the above, whenever I use Anki and only recognize the meaning of the word or its most common kunyomi reading, but not both, I hit the Again button. Am I being too hard on myself by insisting on knowing both of them before moving on? Should I only focus on knowing the meaning of the word? If so, should I be hitting Easy or hitting Good if all I can remember is the meaning, but not the reading?
I'd hit the again button

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284644
these are literally the words of a dirty greasy long haired toothless mofo laying on an unfolded cardboard box in an alley all disheveled holding his arm out where you can see the needle hanging out of it

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>>19284654
What is the point of responses like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284654
Fuck how'd you know

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284660

>>19284587
>>19284618

[Anonymous No.]

and the most important >>19284559

[Anonymous No.]

>5 months into study
>reading doujin (mostly non-ero)
>no furigana
>can actually read almost all of it, only need to look up one word
>reading speed is pretty damned fast, too
Feels good. Keep studying, 頑張って!

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>>19284505
長すぎて;読まなかった

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284668
i know regulars hate these posts but they motivate me. how much reading do you do a day?

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>>19284613
RTK in and of itself isn't shit, it's just that RTK doesn't really advance you towards ANYTHING Japanese besides being able to differentiate between a whole bunch of different characters. What you get from RTK would be great on its own, except that the very first time you go to play a game afterwards and see 戦う, 黒魔法, 作戦, and 逃げる in your battle menu you'll know ONLY what they mean and not how to read them, and you'll spend an equal amount of time looking up the reading (which will inevitably come with a definition near it)

Wait till you see the many 連's that appear in the wild that have nothing to do with "take along" which is what RTK teaches you it means. 連続　連絡　連敗　連勝　連休. After about the 3rd word, a beginner would realize that lots of words with 連 in front typically means consecutive/repeated/etc. Which is far more useful than knowing a "meaning" that has nothing whatsoever to do with the character's most common application.

連れる Exists, but there's no reason to learn that particular word/meaning/reading until you see it in the wild. You get a lot more mileage the other way, and your brain gets bigger because it's putting together real patterns and learning HOW the language works instead of how it does not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284678

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>>19284678
i mean of proper texts pretty much none but if its goofing around on the internet and perusing mangas quite a bit

[Anonymous No.]

ようこそ
地獄へ

[Anonymous No.]

地獄ってすばらしい

[Anonymous No.]

>>19282371
I finish almost every day despite working fulltime. Come home, chug energy drink, get 'er done. If it's hard try going out to a coffee shop or somewhere public. I'm too ashamed to browse the chan in public so I get my work done quickly without fucking around.
>>19282377
I think they're effective. My vocabulary has drastically increased and I learn new words easier because I can piece together the reading and meaning from uses I know from other words.
>>19282565
For shit like that it helps if you encounter it used in anime and can associate a "feeling" to it, like how the character spoke it and used it, what tone of voice, contextual meaning. I associate certain words with certain characters (at least at first) and can hear it in their voice.
>>19283177
This was my fear. Other than some nip I'm english monolingual. Whenever I ask /int/ about how fluent they are in all these languages they claim to know, I get no response. I think most of them are full of shit and couldn't even read a typical genrelit novel in these languages they "know." They're probably conversational with broken grammar and pronunciation at best.

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>>19284721
i dont think your vocabulary is going up from flashcards youre only drilling the word in isolation dude

youre building your vocab from whatever else you do when youre assumedly learning nihongo which surprise surprise once you get your feet moving you find that you can figure out other things from the stuff you already know

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284721
>someone who has a job and is a productive member of society invests more effort into learning Japanese than me

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284678
30 new anki words a day, reading is mostly 5 hours a day each weekend of manga, plus listening to grammar audio lessons during weekdays, maybe 3-5 hours subbed anime a week (this season sucks). Reading manga was hard at first but it's rapidly becoming easier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284721
I am one of those guys and reading is the only thing I can do in the languages I claim to know. Reading utilizes a kind of passive knowledge, if you have a good feel for the meaning of words you can make yourself think that you are undestanding everything. I am not good at none of the languages I "know" including my native language that is slowly disappearing from my mind after I moved away. Literally never picked a grammar book in my life, except for japanese and chinese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284737
my general strategy is thus:
>read this manga for an anime I liked from start to finish, mining all the words and learning them in anki
>when I finish I will return to the beginning and read it again, and I should now know all these words and be able to read almost all of it with ease
>in this second reading I will be able to appreciate the grammar and subtlety more than when I was struggling just on the vocab
In theory this should work, and as far as I can tell, it is.
>>19284759
Don't worry, when I was unemployed I did nothing all day. The busier you are the harder working you become. Whenever I have free time in large quantities it gets wasted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284778
Eh, that's pretty... I mean, you hand me something in French or Spanish, I don't claim to speak either but I can probably read a large part of it. Wouldn't call that knowing the language. Thanks for honesty.

[Anonymous No.]

What does adding にく to steam mean?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284681
>RTK in and of itself isn't shit, its just shit because of all these reasons its shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284737

This is no meme.

>TFW for some reason can't remember 恐 no matter how hard I tried
>keep missing it in Anki
>say fuck it and decide to just read
>encounter it a few times
>still forget it
>finally one day meet the word 恐竜
>for some reason it just clicks in that moment
>strong visual of a frightening ass T-Rex enters my mind
>encounter 恐 on its own a few times and internally refer back to 恐竜 to "remember" it
>by the end of the day it's not an issue

Same shit really applies to loads of different words. Eventually your brain just says "fuck it I'm tired of not knowing how to read this" and just does it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284675
お前酷えぇな

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284793
If you are achieving your needs without going through too much embarrassment you are doing well enough. It's important to know why are you learning a new language.
I only need to understand how to read in most of the languages I know. Just a few of them I actually use to communicate, and the said communication is just basic daily stuff to survive and sometimes to impress qts at the bar. It's not like I am some sort of intellectual. I troubled myself to learn english only to shitpost.

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>>19284798
>encounter 恐 on its own a few times and internally refer back to 恐竜 to "remember" it
>by the end of the day it's not an issue
People hate on RTK but it serves this purpose well. You have a keyword/meaning to internally refer back to for 2200 or 3000 kanji, so learning new words is made much easier. RTK teaches that kanji as "fear" and it's easier to remember dinosaur as a result.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284796
燻肉？

[Anonymous No.]

what are some good ways to practice listening?

[Anonymous No.]

>tried to read yotsuba ~ 2 weeks ago
>got raped
>read it today, can actually make some sense of it
and y'all said core was bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284944
Talk to other people
Might be a bit hard in the beginning but you'll get the hang of it ;)

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284944
youtube channels

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284944
Anime

[Anonymous No.]

how long have you been 'learning' and how much of this do you understand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFKvOPQyVL0#t=91

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284944
anime. gay ass news sites that accompany verbal reports with articles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284960
where do you find people to talk to? also how do you stop being nervous about speaking?

>>19284962
any recommendations?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284982
been learning a month. sounds like he's saying "demo" which I interpret as "but", but other than I don't understand anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284976
>>19284983
Anime is for nerds.

[Anonymous No.]

being a nerd owns and so does loving anime

just maybe dont love the new anime so much

[Anonymous No.]

>>19285007
Japanese is for nerds

[Anonymous No.]

posting below me is for nerds

[Anonymous No.]

What should I do? I missed yesterdays reps do to work and being too tired after.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19285033
Give up.

[Anonymous No.]

damn now I'm a nerd

[Anonymous No.]

fucking hell, I've just started reading 'graded readers' from the Cornucopia of resources and they are so nice to read for a total beginner
where do I get more of them for free? I feel like I'm gonna read the 3 volumes in no time

[Anonymous No.]

>>19285033
諦めたほうがいいです

[Anonymous No.]

>>19285012
Let me guess, you love the "classics" like code geass, death note, and akira. No thanks, I'll stick to seasonal anime.

[Anonymous No.]

>italki randomly changed display language to japanese
what

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284690
>>19284767
He asked how much reading you do a day. Manga is not reading.
>>19284785
Cool strategy but manga isn't reading so it doesn't really make sense.
>>19284954
You didn't read it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19285086
seasonal anime is so bad though

[Anonymous No.]

>>19285086
i love the real classics like basically everything tatsunoko not the new school shit you millennial egg heads are down with

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284570
For the next 250 days watch 4 hours of raw anime. after that memorize kana then skim tae kim grammar guide then start reading and continue watching raws then after a year you will be fluent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19285211
reading sooner will help you acquire vocab and better understand the grammar which will make listening practice more beneficial

[Anonymous No.]

>>19285250
You think they should read before tae kim, the point of the 4 hours of anime for 250 days is that if you are reading you are cutting into your listening time and your reading time is not as effective. the 250 days of just anime is because it is the least opptrussive way to get those 1000 hours of audio expossure and internalize the grammar and general flow and asking someone to read from day one will make them procrastinate and only ending up with like maybe 2 hours of actual language plus who the fuck has more than 4 hours on a non weekend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19285262
i think this is a really bad argument for you to fall back to because the number of people who have reached fluency by listening to anime, raw or not, is going to be much lower than people who reached fluency through reading (with anime as listening practice).

[Anonymous No.]

you dont watch anime to become fluent you watch anime to stand a chance at it

and also because anime fuckin rules

[Anonymous No.]

>>19285272
I recommend to read, I myself read for 2 hours a day currently. but reading from day one is not as beneficial as just listening.

[Anonymous No.]

Also anime is a lot more enjoyable than reading when your comprehension is basically nothing

[Anonymous No.]

>>19285288
definitely not. subtitled is more entertaining but it's worthless as practice. raw is excruciating as a beginner.

[Anonymous No.]

wow so lets see do the thing that doesnt make sense or do the thing that doesnt

if you choose wisely here you can learn nihongo

[Anonymous No.]

Took me two days to learn half of hiragana

How long for fluency

[Anonymous No.]

the literal rest of your life

[Anonymous No.]

2500+ hours of study

[Anonymous No.]

you dont study to learn a language you study to learn about a language and make your command of it better

[Anonymous No.]

>>19282565
>なければ
if you understand conditionals, all else follows.
>どうやら
adverb どう with a particle やら. search up meaning of both if you don't understand.
>どうやって
adverb どう with te-form of やる
>どうせ
contraction of どうせよ; if you know similar phrases like なに（しろ・せよ）, all else follows.
>さもないと
さもない with conditional と; if you understand conditionals, all else follows.
>されど
https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/jn/89882/meaning/m0u/%E3%81%95%E3%82%8C%E3%81%A9/
前述の事柄を受けて、相反する内容であることを表す。そうではあるが。しかし。
If you don't understand the first sentence, then look at the second sentence. If you don't understand the second sentence, then learn the meaning of the particle は and the conjunction が. The third sentence is an even more general description.
>さらば
https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/jn/89623/meaning/m0u/%E3%81%95%E3%82%89%E3%81%B0/
consider the meaning of それならば; if you understand conditionals, all else follows.
>さえあれば
particle さえ + conditional form of ある; if you understand conditionals, all else follows.
>としても
collocation ～とする used with ～（でも・ても） pattern
>ゆえに
a noun with a particle. ゆえ (reason) + に (adverbial); lit. "(as a) reason (of) ~"

Your first mistake was attempting to memorize English translations of conjunctions in a language with dozens of conjunctions, whose nuances are usually lost when translating into English (e.g. compare ものの to けど or ～に対して to ～反面). Your second mistake was attempting to memorize specific cases of grammar before learning general patterns.

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↑ congratulations on largest and most useless post of this thread

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↑ congratulations on the worst shitpost of this thread

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its so good you copy it

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>>19285275
Here's the real roadmap to success:

>Pokemon Green/Red in Japanese until you can read kana reasonably well (doesn't have to be fast, just able to read it at all with few mistakes). Pick up occasional words and put their Kanji versions on flash cards+review them, but don't expect greatness since you don't know what's grammar vs what's word yet. Critical point - read as much of the text OUT LOUD as you can to keep yourself honest. If you figure out how to distinguish verbs from the conjugated shit that follows them, you're well on your way.
>Tae kim for a bit to get some basics down during this time to get a sense for what parts of a sentence are grammar so you can learn actual words efficiently
>Listen to things, but don't kid yourself about understanding it at this point. You're here to develop a sense for how things flow and how things sound. Bonus points if you DO understand things, but you probably won't even be able to listen to Momotarou at this point.
>Once you beat red/green, read more Tae Kim and move on to NHK Easy news. Every single fresh word gets a flash card, even if it contains a Kanji you already know. IDC if you end up with a million cards where it's __力 because let's fucking face it, there's a shit ton of -ryoku's in Japanese. It'll seem like a lot for a while, but after a month or so you'll be pulling like 4 new words from every new article instead of like 20. Ignore prefecture/city names unless you just happen to remember them through context (you'll definitely know 北朝鮮 after a week just because half the articles on have something to do with it). You should notice through extension that you pick up naturally on other things that you should explicitly ignore like titles (大統領、総理大臣、労働党委員長) because those are so common that studying them is a waste of time, as you will see/be exposed to them often enough to prove that raw exposure is enough to learn anything else.
>read not only the new articles, but the ones from the last 5 days, including ones you've read already. This is natural repetition and is basically like repping flashcards but not as shitty.
>you will find that your abilities are constantly at odds. One moment you will feel vocab-limited. Another, you will feel grammar limited. That's normal. Exposure solves all problems. If you don't understand certain conditional things, don't stress about it. It's not supposed to make sense, but as your abilities rise up it will be easier to cut through the crap and focus on harder points. Particle usage seems hard now, but after you know how it's used and see/hear it often enough to know what to expect, you can't really mix the usages up. Even に will start to make sense after a while.
>Ultimately, once you start to develop a "predictive sense" for things based on lots of exposure, things get a whole lot easier and harder at the same time. Now you're aware that 95% of sentences in the news beginning with 警察。。。 will either follow shortly with によると or は。。。。。。と話しています/と言っています. So you don't even consider their existence anymore. This is how all the other grammar points will become with time.
>Listen more. Conversational things. Blogs. Film/game reviews. Unscripted is usually better. Develop a sense for the sorts of grammar-imperfect shit that happens all the time like incomplete sentence て form fragments, lazy と conditionals, and deciding at the last second you meant to add せん to that ございます for dramatic effect.

From that point, the sky is the limit.

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>>19283160
>日本語読めないと思うけど手紙を書くよ
>大好きな気持ちは絶対に変わらないよ
man up and write it in a language your crush understands lmfao

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>>19283314
even in real life the F students say "i'm smart but lazy" so i'm not surprised

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there is no roadmap to learn nihongo all you can do is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xEihW4oxuM

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>>19282176
>>19282176
This is the actual roadmap to success, with verified video evidence of the author's fluency in Japanese, whereas nobody in these threads ever demonstrate their fluency on video.

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>>19285438
lol this some reddit shit boy

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>>19285438
>and move on to NHK Easy news
what about wikipedia articles instead

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>>19285458
ive never associated with actual f students so i wouldnt know

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>>19285195
millenials obsessed with "classics" are less annoying than old fucks obsessed with classics
but the real enlightened weebs aren't stuck in the past

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>>19285495
Me neither, but I assume everybody who says "I'm smart but lazy" is an F student, because nobody with even a decent GPA says that.

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>>19285576
idk what youre on about but youre trippin stay in your lane

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>>19284266
i wanna learn meme radicals too

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>>19283177
In place of shitposting, write coherent sentences. Otherwise, don't complain about your poor writing. You've made your bed, now lie in it.

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>>19284989
>where do you find people to talk to? also how do you stop being nervous about speaking?
Make some friends on Hellotalk and voice call them. Also you just gotta man up and do it, you will probably be fine after the first 30 seconds

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japanese ladies like it if you do your jikushukai by saying わたしはゲイ

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>>19282916
If you plan on learning from textbooks rather than real Japanese, then you can't help but spend 16 hours per day. Instead of doing "reading exercises" in a textbook, read a Sankei article or something. If you're tired of reading formal shit, watch a manga, stream an LN, or lurk twitter. Textbooks won't teach you what 「なんでかっつと」 means when you hear it on some video.

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>>19282913
yea and dictionaries arent classes smartass lmao

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>>19285686
link that at this guy tho >>19285372

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>>19285692
all I see is a useless, verbose post saying "read your grammar guide" though

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THE HORROR

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>>19285071
You have to buy them, but they are pretty expensive for what they are. I'm surprised that no one has ever scanned any more of them.

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>>19285758
you only have to buy one to realize they're a poor investment
then again there's a lot of dekinai who think that spending a lot of money is the surest way to fluency

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おはようおにいちゃん

おなかすいた

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>>19285802
何を食べたい

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うんこ

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じゃあ、いただきます

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いただきまんこ

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>>19285808
おにいちゃん

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お兄ちゃんは食べ物じゃありません

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>>19285875
じゃあ、いただきます

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お兄ちゃんは馬鹿者です

[Anonymous No.]

10000 hours of 実況プレイ or you're gay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS-l_hsKwk8&list=PLnL_YhHASca0IZKuOarU_AF01ygO408ok

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>>19285808
ピザ

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>>19285576
I see you've been to the NGE threads on /a/ too. It's sad how they have discussed that show nonstop for years. And 90% of their discussion is Asuka vs Rei.

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>>19285764
no money no fluency
DJT doesnt know Japanese because they are reading more instead of buying more.

buy more

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So uhh radicals or nah? I was thinking that mby i should as i'm seeing many radicals used in like 5 or so kanji and am having trouble recalling the exact shape of the kanji from the meaning.

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>>19286221
buy more kanji dictionaries and unlock all of the radicals

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So I heard if you sleep with a japanese dictionary under your pillow you will passively absorb some of the words? I think I might try it. Do you think it would be better to sleep with a handful of pages at a time at first to make it easier to digest?

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>>19286226
yes. the more books under--the more concentration of japanese on one side and less concentration of the other side, causing the semi-permeable membrane called your pillow to flow you knowledge of japanese at lightning speed

buy more

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skim tae kim/sakubi, memorize 500-2500 words, start reading all the time and taking amphetamines
this is the only path

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>>19286230
buy more aderall or you will never be able to study japanese 16 hours per day

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>>19286230
Honestly imho better to learn the kanji in those words beforehand since a lot of words share the same kanji

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>>19286059
太るぞ

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>>19286237
This. By just memorizing 美 as "beauty, beautiful, うつく（しい）、ビ、 ミ", you already learned like half of the 266 words shown in jisho when you search the kanji. Unlike the "read more" retards claims, the meaning of the kanji is consistent. Check this out

美乳
美尻
美脚
美容
美形
美白
美女
美人

the list goes on

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okay but also learning a single word with 美《び》 in it teaches you how it's said and what it means

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>>19286256
but it dont teach yall niggas how to read 美空（みく） so suck it

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>>19286226
>>19286229

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that word is exceptionally uncommon so i don't care

[Anonymous No.]

That's because it's Chinese/a Japanese name.

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>>19286251
unsure if this is in jest, someone could be dumb enough to think that this is a valid argument

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>>19286256
Not necessarily, when i did 2k i didn't really pick up the kanji too well

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>>19286251
>美尻

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>>19286310
the mistake you made was using core 2k

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>>19286321

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>>19286337
core is pretty much spectacularly bad for learning kanji through vocab

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>>19286337
There is nothing wrong with core itself. The problem is how people use core. They don't research the words that they study and instead memorize just the English definition. In reality you need to look for multiple sentences for each word with context. Also the cards need to be split into even more cards to account for homonyms. As long as you do that, then core is fine.

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sup guys, i'm in Japan living the expat life.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck off. You've literally taken my only dream in life (which I've dedicated my life to achieving) and are now shoving it in my face. Go somewhere else.

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>>19286382
don't worry, if you've realized you'll never accomplish your dreams you're in good company, but at least we can settle for reading eroge

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>>19286352
What do you mean split inti multiple cards? Also as for researching that's a bit iffy on mobile, any suggestions for better decks?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm lonely here in Japan though, please be my friend.

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>>19286459
Wanna be my roommate in a few years when i go through an exchange program to japan in uni?

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>>19286451
I would say mining better than any deck, but if you want a list of words, then core is good for a lot of situations.

When I say split into multiple cards, I mean don't try to remember one English definition to cover all the usages. for example
https://jisho.org/word/掛ける
can't be put described by one English word that is used in all the ways this word is used. I would break it into smaller cards for each usage (a single usage might depend on how the person interprets the word).

These are just my opinions though. I'm not exactly fluent. Just how I feel about the core deck.

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>>19286465
a few years.....thats too far into the future.　ごめんなさい。

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>he can't plan a few years ahead
you can't learn Japanese

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>>19286483
So uhh how about this, do core until i've got enough words to read something very basic then i read that and add all unknown words to a mining deck. How do i even make a deck? if i recall correctly there was some app to help with that, right?

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>>19286524
up to you my man. I'm waayy to drunk to give any more advice (why I added the disclaimer on my post). best of luck though 頑張って

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>>19286280
I seriously hope nobody took my post seriously, especially with the first three examples I gave.

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朝ごはんと行く
敵情視察といきますか

Is this と doing 内容を表す?

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I just spent over an hour making 10 cards. I had a manga in one hand while I looked up words and transcribed sentences with my other hand. There has to be a better way.

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>>19286483
To be fair, you can point out any extremely common verb and say the same thing. e.g. あげる おちる　ひく　だす　とる... I'm leaving out the kanji because the meanings change depending on which one, and it's usually purposeful when someone chooses one kanji over the other. e.g. 騰げる and 上げる; 盗る and 取る; 弾く vs 引く; 掛ける and 駆ける; 落ちる and 堕ちる; and so on.

It's probably best to just slowly take in the different meanings as you get better at reading. Otherwise you might end up asking a dumb question like "why do we use かける for wearing glasses?"

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What are you guys listening to?

I've been grinding up with some audio dramas like Fate Prototype, Garden of Avalon and Elite Classroom but I'm having difficulties finding stuff with seeders or that's decently long. Anyone got anything to recommend? (Youtube stuff is fine too since I can just download those.)

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>>19286599
Don't use physical media to make cards. That's not even how you make sentence cards.

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>>19286609
man just watch whatever you like. the more you watch it the more you get used to how they talk and you start catching more things that are said

>>19286611
what do I do if the only example sentences are on my physical media or yourei.jp

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>>19286611
>That's not even how you make sentence cards.
Are you implying that my card format is bad? I don't feel the need to keep sentences on the front anymore...
>>19286614
>what do I do if the only example sentences are on my physical media
You suffer and type them out like I do ;_;
>>19286609
ようこそ実力至上主義の教室へ has an audio drama cd? Nice.

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what the fuck

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>>19286600
I agree with you. The kanji does make a difference in the written language. Context matters too. what I'm trying to say is that core doesn't do a good job separating these things. People go straight to memorizing a single English word for a Japanese word at a rate of 50 new words a day.

I'm seriously sleeping after this post. sorry for any drunk rants. forever a dekinai here. probably should ignore this post too.

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>>19286627
+くだす

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>>19286627
What program is that?

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>>19286622
nah I don't do sentence cards. If I really am desperate for an example sentence, however, then I just pull ones from the dictionary and/or where I found the word.

By the way, I think the other anon said you're doing it wrong because sentence cards are supposed to apparently teach grammar and vocabulary by making you memorize *translations* of sentences. That's why these same anons wouldn't recommend Tanaka Corpus for making a sentence deck with; a lot of the English translations are shoddy, and even when they're not, the Japanese sentences are sometimes unnatural if not ungrammatical.

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>>19286599
why are you putting an hour into transcribing sentences if you're just putting them on the back where you will start ignoring them within a week

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>>19286641
>sentence cards are supposed to apparently teach grammar and vocabulary by making you memorize *translations* of sentences.
translations of sentences is wrong, don't ever do this
other anon was probably saying it's not a sentence card because sentence on front is the defining point of a sentence card, sentence on back is just a vocab card with extra shit on the back

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>>19286614
>man just watch whatever you like
My problem is that I don't know what I like. I wanted to go through all dramas on Nyaa but very few of them have seeders and I dunno what else to search for. Tried the virtual youtubers but dialogue is far too sparse and repetitive, you mostly hear the game, while japanese radio stations are a bit boring and lacking in otaku content.

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>>19286644
I find sentences to give me a better sense of the word than dictionary definitions and they're a nice way to trigger my memory of what I read.
Transcribing the sentences isn't the time consuming part, searching for an easy to understand J-J definition is.
>>19286658
There are usually blogs you can find that link to drama cds if there aren't any seeders on Nyaa... You could also rip audio from anime or whatever you like as well.

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>>19286644
>why are you putting an hour into transcribing sentences if you're just putting them on the back where you will start ignoring them within a week
this

I literally only read example sentences on the first time seeing them and when I forget them

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>>19286658
>Tried the virtual youtubers
now try the real youtubers lol

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>>19286675
There are no Japanese youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Reminds that your Japanese will always just be a fake ranked down version of the real thing, 雑種共.

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>>19286722
Are you calling everybody halfbreeds because nip ain't their first language or does your post apply only to halfbreeds?

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>have a decent reading base (pretty common to be able to read VNs for several minutes without looking anything up)
>abysmal at listening; feels like 90% of my vocabulary has dropped off, and the low, fast speech with frequent mumbling that's so common in Japanese gets me 99% of the time

It seems like it might be a decent idea to listen to subtitled Japanese at intermittent points for ten minute intervals. Watching subtitled Japanese for hours just turns into reading practice with sound in the background after the first few minutes, but it seems to help "prime" you to listen to Japanese without subtitles.

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>reading is easier than listening
arienai!

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>>19286722

I've met plenty of non-native English speakers who were easy to understand and came across as very intelligent. If I can sound like them, that doesn't bother me one bit.

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>>19286806
EOPs can't come to grips with the fact that the whole world can speak their language on par with them while having their own.

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>>19286524
I highly recommend against mining "all unknown words" as a beginner. Sure if you're mid-intermediate go for it but as a beginner you need to spend as much of your learning time as possible on the general stuff, because by definition of being a beginner you're still missing a lot of the fundamentals.

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Am I at least allowed to mine all words with new kanji

I'm up to 1800 so it's at worst 10 new ones a day

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>>19286876
consider you read a chapter on fishing and run into 8 new kanji only used for varieties of fish
you shouldn't be in a hurry to increase number of kanji, just focus on the words and pick words that you've seen a few times until that's rare enough that it seems worth going after every new word

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>>19286816

If you gave me a choice between being reincarnated as someone who will spend his entire life from 25 onwards as a foreigner who has an accent that will never go away but comes across as educated and intelligent in a conversation or being reincarnated as someone who will never have any utility for a foreign tongue but comes across as somewhat stupid when you talk to him, I'd choose the former without hesitation.

[Anonymous No.]

えいごネイティブにしつもんがあります

4chanでもyouをつかうのはなぜですか

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>>19285372
>どうやら
The combination of どう and やら's meanings can't be the meaning of どうやら. They are a bit different from each other. Remember どうやら as one word.

>されど
This is an archaic word. Don't bother to remember this (yet). Note that if all example sentences in a definition come from only classics, that means the word is obsolete.

>さらば
This is an old way of saying goodbye, but is no longer used in everyday conversation. The other meanings are obsolete. Don't remember this (yet).

>さえあれば
さえ + conditional form means something different from what you'd expect from the combination of them. That's why there is an item for さえ + conditional form in the definition of さえ.

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>>19286722
Eh it can't be that bad, i mean i'll always prolly have an definite accent in English but i can understand everything and say anything so whatever, now if i'll ever get to that point with Japanese is a whole different question.

[Anonymous No.]

I've got a question for the JSLs
It's ４ちゃんえる, yet you still use ます?

[Anonymous No.]

So i'm pretty terrible at production and I was wondering if I could get some feedback
>日本語を一年間ぐらい勉強している
>だから面倒な話し方ならごめんなさい
for the second line, i was trying to say something like 'so if my way of speaking is confusing, i'm sorry', but i feel like the way i expressed it was wrong. can anyone critique?

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>>19287142
あのんがおんななのか

おとこなのか

あいてがおとこなのか

おんななのかで

それぞれ

ぴったりくる

はなしことばが

ちがうのはわかる？

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>>19287151
i'm a guy and it was just a little introduction thing in a discord

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>>19287163
Please don't come back here. You will be happy, and we will be happy. Best of luck.

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>>19287175
why?

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>>19287163
おとこことばだねー

>日本語を１年くらい勉強しているところです
>変なところあったら指導してください

これならじらいふまないとおもう

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>>19287208
not really sure how the second sentence is playing into what i was trying to express, sorry, can you explain further?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287217
>ごめんなさい

これはしたからすぎてへん

>おしえてください

これはうえからすぎてへん

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>>19287276
ah, i see, you're right
thanks for the help, do you think you could explain the first bit?
>変なところあったら
this part
i know how ところ works after a verb, but i'm not sure how it works here, nor how the あったら applies

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw you meditate for an hour and find inner peace in a beautiful Japanese garden

I literally forgot I was in my own room, time to make some green tea and do my Anki reps and read for a while

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>>19287283
>変なところがあったなら

ひともじくらい

すぐおちるよ

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>>19287300
ah! ok i think i get it, thanks so much for taking the time to explain it

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@19287287
Thank you, be sure to give us an update when you are done. Also where can I donate to keep this wonderful blog going?

[Anonymous No.]

Just saying you guys should try doing it too, I was skeptical when I watched Matt's video about meditating but it has really improved my life in many ways, not only related to Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287306
You can support maaatt by becoming a patron at any time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287319
私のちんぽをサポートしてその口で咥えるのもできるよね

[Anonymous No.]

You know you can follow matt's advice without becoming a patron right? I'd never give him money but his advice is sound

Aside from Dogen he's one of the best Gaijin, he also isn't a scam like Kaufmann

[Anonymous No.]

Anybody using a kindle for reading japanese content on the go / while commuting?

How good is the dictionary / word lookup?

[Anonymous No.]

minna genki?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287357
Get out normie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19286226
Can't tell if you're being serious but no, of course that won't work. You can passively listen to audio though.

[Anonymous No.]

Why isn't eceleb discussion a bannable offense here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287392
It's not

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>>19287342
youre not gonna learn nihongo from watching random gaijins how to nihongo vids on yt

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw when a 黒人 中出しd you and your 彼氏 doesn't know

[Anonymous No.]

How long did it take you guys to quit, knowing you'll never understand simple grammar?

As for me it's when I got to i adjectives and na adjectives in TK, and how they conjugate differently. It's impossible to learn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287449
れあｄもれ

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>>19287453
まあまあ

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287449
sorry not everyone is a brainlet like you

[Anonymous No.]

ichi
ni
san
yon
go
roku
nana
hachi
kyu
ju


:)

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287449

Only brainless americans have problems with learning japanese, if you are not a white pigu who already learned more than one language you will be fine desu.

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>>19287392
Nothing seems to be bannable here. Jamal can still post, reddit pastes are ongoing, manga isn't reading retard still around
But the worst offender is whoever is still remaking, giving all of the above a home.
The mods have signaled this place to die, just like /int/, through inaction. So let it die.

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>Only brainless americans have problems with learning japanese

[Anonymous No.]

mooooom I posted it again

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287534
if its all over to you then why stick around dont let the door hit your ass on the way out mate

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287531
Nice inferiority complexu desu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287534
That's not true, try saying the n word and your post will be deleted in a blink of an eye.

[Anonymous No.]

Burgers please leave, white pigu

[Anonymous No.]

おにいちゃんは

だれがすきですか

あたしは

アバッキオがすきです

[Anonymous No.]

burger onegaishimas

[Anonymous No.]

黒人狩りに行こうか?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287556
coal burnerなのか
ナチなのか

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287555
Do you want some autisumu on it desuka?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287551
burger website
owned

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287556
かかってこいぜよ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw27QuFhwc8#t=105

[Anonymous No.]

かえる
かける
かかる
かわる

[Anonymous No.]

didnt know viper knew japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287594
Kabamaru

[Anonymous No.]

Looking for a kanojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287541
Vague hope that my reports still do something, i guess. But dont worry, I never remake anymore during my time zone.

[Anonymous No.]

someone make a new pig picture for next thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>19286722
that's what I'm going for

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>>19286711
false

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>>19287142
だから分かりづらかったらごめんなさい。If you prefer a more faithful translation, you can go with "だから話し方が分かりづらかったらごめんなさい" or "だから分かりづらい話し方だったらごめんなさい". But I find both of them verbose.

If you mean your Japanese is bad, it'd be better the first sentence is "日本語はまだ一年間ぐらいしか勉強していない", or in a polite way, "... していません".

Imouto is retarded. Don't give her much credit.

>>19287208
それを女が言って何が悪いって？結局性別関係なく使える表現じゃないか。

[Anonymous No.]

>very good with memorizing kanji hiragana
>i still suck with katakana
Why? Am i just a baka?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287637

[Anonymous No.]

>her

sure you dont wanna take your own advice about giving too much credit lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287449
skim tae kim and read more
you don't learn grammar by obsessing over it and drilling it
you learn grammar by checking what the fuck it is when you have no idea what's going on, and otherwise reading more until you intuitively start to complete sentences without thinking about it
no one thinks about this shit, they just do what sounds right

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287675
This desu

[Anonymous No.]

Even based Steve Kaufman says he doesn't memorize grammar. He just skims grammar guides every now and then which exposes him to concepts that he then acquires through extensive reading and listening.

Trust Kaufman. He's a polyglot, and not one of those fakes like that Laoshu retard who only know broken greetings in 20 different languages.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287142
leave first sentence the same and change second to うまく言葉にできなくてごめんなさいましたです

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287666
now slather him in mud
we like gettin dirty in here

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287702
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GB9CGFaUmU

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287662
>ウ
ew, what is that thing on the top?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287706
what your weenie looks like to scale

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287662
Download Remembering the Katakana.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287712
that would be
>ア
because it makes women go ah

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287724
That looks like an extremely fat guy having an erection.

[Anonymous No.]

daily japanese dick

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287724
yeah it makes em say

ア ちっぽけ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287718
start with radical kana like ノ which is used to make メ then use that to remember ヌ. it's a proven method. also don't worry about how their read. try to come up with names for everything and let the reading sink in when you actually read.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287736
they're*

[Anonymous No.]

SU GO I DE SU

[Anonymous No.]

na ni ga sug oi

[Anonymous No.]

fuck 二日酔い I'm never drinking again

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287759
anata ha sugoi nioi ha suru

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287760
you're a man now jimmy

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287768
anata ha sugoi nioi ga suru

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287771
I'm just lucky

nvm too much wait time. someone buy me a pass

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287768
>>19287773
a ko re ka *chimpo o nuku*

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287780
hitori de nuku koto nannte dai kirai. itsumo tasuke wo sagasu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287773
Anata no okina oppai

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287792
shou ga nai. tabe sugiru kara

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287801
onaka ga suita

[Anonymous No.]

何でこれ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287791
da ka ra tetudatte kureyo ne

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287812
何？

[Anonymous No.]

Which of the 100 Isolated Kanji Study decks in the djt guide are the best?
So far i've been learning Kanji along with vocabulary, and i've learned all the Radicals individually, but i still have poor retention, and as soon as a word is conjugated to hell and back i can't read the them anymore because i memorize them as a complete "picture"

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287814
shine

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287823
sinanai

[Anonymous No.]

I'm retarded but am desperate and would like assistance so I don't give up on this as I have everything else. After a year this is the extent of my progress (this deck has radicals, vocab, and kanji). This is pathetic. I am beginning to forget stuff I should know because I do not read, so I've recently started focusing on grammar more (Tae Kim) and am considering Assimil. Typically, I review and add ten new kanji or vocab a day. As I feel as though I am not making as much progress as I should, I believe I need to change my approach. The deck I am currently using is missing radicals, so I have installed another radical deck (that's in the OP). My tentative current plan is to do grammar every other day, and to learn ten new kanji and ten new vocab daily.

I am open to any suggestions. I do not want to stagnate. Please don't ignore or look down on me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287831
if you dont use it you lose it

better stay on your anki iv drip for the rest of your life so you can keep clinging onto the hope that youll learn nihongo someday

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287831
Literally just read more dude. I don't get how this is so complicated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287836
So would studying grammar via Tae Kim be sufficient, or should I read beyond that? I'm a little unconfident on how to start reading given that I know only 400 kanji. I'm sorry if I'm a bother.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287827
itsumo koko ni kuru toki ni ecchi na koto wo kiku. nihongo wo bennkyou suru koto dake ga shitai. dakara shine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287831
better than me. am I dekinai after all?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287842
youve done 7000 flashcards and youre still talking about tyler kim

im sorry dude i cant help you

watch 10000 hours of anime or some shit

[Anonymous No.]

DAKARA

[Anonymous No.]

Utada Hikaru sukei desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287844
I think it would be kita not kuru here. die.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287842
Whatever you do DON'T READ. If you read now you'll misunderstand things and permanently be crippled reading them the wrong way forever. Wait until you know Japanese to read and whatever you do don't watch anime without subtitles.

[Anonymous No.]

actually its more like 2000 flashcards but still watch your anime dude

10000 hours

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287862
i like that one she did with kohh

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287831
>>19287850
No, you guys are just too stupid to learn Japanese. There is really no other way to put this. Even if you got tricked into doing some inefficient bullshit, a normal person would set it straight and do something that works instead of persisting with something that doesn't. The fact that you have been at this for a year and still can't get your shit together just goes to show that there are indeed people who simply lack the intelligence to learn Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287865
this is the best advice from this pathetic thread. reading early on only causes you to become delusional about knowing the language. also subs are useful for reinforcing grammar. because you can see what the English phrase is that corresponds to the Japanese phrase you just heard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287876
I don't know what to try that would work. I just downloaded some manga to start reading but I'm afraid I'll be too bad at it.

>>19287878
So grammar is what I should focus on then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287842
I can't tell if this is reddit but you should not be spending months and years memorizing words and shit using anki without doing any reading. You should be reading and using anki to supplement it. You're doing it completely backwards. Yes, reading is going to be really difficult at first as you struggle to discern particles from words and follow the sentence but it's the only sane way to improve. You've been doing the anki grind for a year and apparently that's gotten you nowhere so you've really got nothing to lose at this point. I fucking hate the anki meme so fucking much. It's a useful tool but dumbass redditors encourage beginners to learn contextless readings through anki or sites like wanikani, when anki is supposed to be a supplement. Start reading 2 hours every day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287878
you should go back and quote a lot of my posts then : )

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287882
Well you've already messed up. Manga isn't reading.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287855
DAKARA

>>19287862
kingdom hearts is the only way to learn japanese

[Anonymous No.]

manga is reading and it owns fuck tha haters put this in your profile if you agree

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287882
So read the guide you stupid shit. Also stop posting because nobody cares about you not having basic reading comprehension and no initiative to change up your studying. If you need to be spoonfed all the way through this, let me put this very clearly, YOU CAN'T LEARN JAPANESE.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287885
I'm completely hopeless and need more direction. I consulted the OP and is 侵略！イカ娘 第 an acceptable starting point?

How will I confirm that I am reading correctly or not? I feel as though I don't have a safety net and this is what's harming me.

>>19287889
Where should I start instead? With reading? Please be specific.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287876
I'm just lazy. I know what needs to change.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287831
>I am beginning to forget stuff I should know because I do not read
then just fuckin read dude
this isn't a joke
stop trying to fucking master grammar and learn 3000 words before you start reading
you wont master anything without fucking reading
there is no shortcut
anki is a supplement, not a shortcut
you will struggle and you will have to look shit up frequently
eventually it will get easier and then you will have to find something where you struggle again
you can't avoid it so get to it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287831
You pretty much wasted the past year. Just forget it and start again with at least 2 hours of reading a day and you can be enjoying manga and simple visual novels within a month or two. Read up on Stephen Krashen's theories of language acquisition if you're still unsure how to proceed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287905
Where do I start with reading? The guide has several options but apparently manga doesn't count and I should avoid it? Please be specific.

[Anonymous No.]

ankis not even a supplement

its the iceberg lettuce of lettuces

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287895
It's fine to start off with manga, it just isn't reading is what I mean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287870
>tfw I've been listening to Japanese music for more than 13 years
>now i decide to actually learn the language

Well at least now learning is a lot easier since i know a decent amount of vocabulary and my pronunciation is perfect, i even know some grammar without realizing thanks to thousands of hours listening to music.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287918
What would be ideal reading to start off with? Please, again, be specific.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287905
I've beaten dragon quest 5, dot quest, ao oni one and two, and a shit ton of other games. what makes you think I don't read?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287923
Oh so we all got trolled. ez

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287923
VNs of course. You shouldn't even have to ask.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287924
come back when youve beaten nobunagas ambition ya lil youngass

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287920
i doubt your speaking is perfect but 13 years of nihongo in your ears is gonna mean youre in a good spot to learn nihongo

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287927
I don't see any explicitly easy ones in the guide besides はなひらっ！

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287895
yes, observe 20 volumes of ika musume and then at the end go back to the first volume and see if your comprehension has improved. If it has you know you're making progress and will eventually reach fluency as long as you keep doing it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287929
>RTS
no thank you. I'll still to real games like imouto paradise

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287910
manga isn't reading is a meme
manga is easier and you will need to move on from it when it stops challenging you, but it's fine
there are wrong answers but there is no right answer, yotsuba is a common suggestion but the slang makes it imperfect, i've heard that aku no hana is easy but i haven't read it, as long as it's not so far over your head that you can't work out any sentences it's more important that you are interested in it than that it is optimal difficulty for you
also your understanding will be imperfect and there will be sentences that you don't get at all even after spending a few minutes consulting a dictionary or grammar guide and thinking about it, accept it and move forward, the more time you put into reading the shit that you can figure out it the easier it will get

[Anonymous No.]

Eromanga is the best starting point.
Then you can start reading.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287933
Sure that's a good one to take your training wheels off and then after that pretty much anything is fine other than the ones by that Romeo guy unless you want to get put in the shredder like so many before you.

[Anonymous No.]

consider this: if you can read any manga and you dont bat an eyelash anymore and can actually laugh out loud at it when its funny is there really anything left you need to do?

youve reached the zenith enjoy your well earned retirement into the endless flood of trite rehashes of the same tropes ad infinitum for epic win youve earned it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287950
this. the desire to understand what the girl is saying will motivate you to analyze her sentence in great detail.

[Anonymous No.]

eromanga sensei fuckin blows and is for LOOSERs

[Anonymous No.]

How not to confuse gobi な with imperative な?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287955
After you've taken the redpill you realize Japanese isn't just a language hobby. Learning Japanese is a lifestyle change that teaches you to enjoy learning in general. Once you've reached the point you can read manga the next step is LNs. I'd recommend you start meditating a minimum of 5 minutes every day if you don't already.

[Anonymous No.]

You can't reach fluency until you finish Naruto.

[Anonymous No.]

Nobody posting here knows Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

we're talking about eromamga. not some story for children.

[Anonymous No.]

Naruto is shounen for adults.

[Anonymous No.]

I just learned hiragana. ask me anything

[Anonymous No.]

no that would be borato the next generation of naurto

[Anonymous No.]

i hope the level of shitposting has reached a local maximum

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287966
I know you're joking but you shouldn't even say "read manga" even in jest as it will make some people misunderstand and actually believe that manga is reading.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287981
How do you read ゑ?

[Anonymous No.]

I can't read VNs because I currently can't torrent. So this is the best I can do. When I encounter a word or phrase I don't know--I can't even finish the first bubble, I'm at a loss. Kanjidamage wouldn't cover it. Is Romajidesu acceptable?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287988
honestly your post is very well suited for this thread of misinformation lies and frankly straight up fronting

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287989
I learned from imabi-san that it is romaginized as we but usually read as e.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287994
type it out with the furigana and then rikai over it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287989
he teaches you how in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVO6L0PSEWU

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw you try to learn a language with more characters than stars in the milky way

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287995
Quote 4 posts that are "fronting".

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288005
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287995
You don't have to thank me. Someone's gotta tell it like it is in this pig pen full of mud, just so happened to be me.
"The hero they need, but don't deserve" or something like that.

[Anonymous No.]

I am physically cringing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287966
I wouldn't necessarily call it a lifestyle change, but becoming fluent in it requires more time than your average European language so if you want to achieve fluency in a reasonable time you will have to put in a lot of effort.

As for LNs, do you have any recommendations? I'm reading ゼロの使い魔 and it's just about the easiest one I've been able to find. I like how Saito poetically describes people's breasts:

ただのおっぱい星人じゃないか

[Anonymous No.]

thank you hero-sama. I never would have noticed if it wasn't for you. I knew rtk couldn't really be as useless as people here keep saying

[Anonymous No.]

Jamal, can I just pay you for Japanese lessons?

I've tried all the rest and now I want to try the best.

[Anonymous No.]

thanks to rtk I know the kanji for "beauty" and "dog" and "pack of wild dogs" and "fire". rtk can't be useless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288017
wtf I didn't know there's more than 1 billion trillion kanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288037
I know this is a shit post, but I've been looking for someone who has done rtk to ask. in the book it recommends associating 木 with tree, however it looks more like a star to me. can I associate it with "star" instead?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288037
Try and type em out now, I'll be waiting.

[Anonymous No.]

whats everyones favorite part about djt
mine is the big autistic arguments but sadly there aren't too many nowadays compared to being at least once a thread before

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288049
I like telling people they suck so I can feel a little better about myself

[Anonymous No.]

How not to confuse gobi な with imperative な?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288049
i like telling people they can do anything because frankly they can

[Anonymous No.]

reminder that Japanese takes 3000 hours to learn to basic fluency and so 1 hour of Japanese is like 12 minutes of a European language. You should be putting in at least 3 hours a day if you don't want to be the Japanese equivalent of a dekinai shitter who thinks doing a lesson of duolingo a week will teach him Spanish.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288043
shitpost i've seen you ask this before
>>19288045
i can't but i'll be able to when i finish rtk and start reading

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288123
sorry I take back what I just said. duolingo is actually a great resource for learning Japanese. I'm just mad because I have a small ちんぽ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288005
>>19288019
Sometimes that doesn't seem to work. For instance, I tried it with だらけ and nothing came up. In those cases, what should I do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288158
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar/covered

Pretty sure it shows up with rikai though

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288171
Thanks, I'll focus more on this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288051
natsukashii...

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288200
but to answer your question, you can try googling it if it's bothering you but at this stage you might as well just skip over the sentences you can't understand, you won't comprehend everything. Your goal is to maximize your exposure to as much input that is just slightly above your level as possible. See those unknown words/phrases/grammar points in a sentence that you understand through the wider context enough times and you'll acquire them naturally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287891
DONNA TOKI DATTE ZUTTO FUTARI DE DONNA TOKI DATTE SOBANI IRU NARA

[Anonymous No.]

whew this thread smells

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC50ZWmLGa8
this young girl speaks fluently japanese in 4 months of output, what's your excuse djt?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288236
smells like your posting

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288242
ill speak fluently in a week once i finish these flashcards just you wait

[Anonymous No.]

What should I do when encountering a kanji I don't recognize in reading manga? My libraries don't pull it up. Or maybe I'm misreading the か　as　が.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288262
流れ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288262
learn radicals and stay away from blurry manga until you're more comfortable with kanji

流

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288267
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

だから

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288242
why do the nips call it シカゴ instead of チカゴ

[Anonymous No.]

So just from attempting to read this, it's apparent I lack the kanji and radical knowledge to efficiently read this. But I don't want to go back to only Anki daily because that lead me to this stagnation in the first place. Should I continue to look stuff up as I read, study grammar, and anki, then? Does that sound effective?

I'm sorry I'm so incompetent. Please don't hate me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288262
Manga isn't reading though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288300
because シカゴ is closer to the pronunciation? dont be a retard please

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288306
read a visual novel with a text grabber

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288123
reminder that this doesn't include anki time so if you're putting in 4 hours a day and 2 of them are anki you're not meeting this level of commitment but you're capable of it if you get your anki addiction under control

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288306
just fuckin texthook hanahira or some other shitty vn and hover over everything, failing that yes keep viewing manga for a minimum 30 minutes a day your speed will eventually pick up

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288321
I'll have to stick with the latter. I can't torrent VNs currently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288313
This is why eop's are eternal dekinais when it comes to pronounciation in japanese. Their shit is all over the place.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that the "input no output" meme was designed by Matt so nobody tells you how ban you're Japanese really is and you keep using his shitty methods.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288334
no it wasnt newfag idiot

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288339
oh

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288324
try viewing the chapter in English first too if you've never seen it before. Don't compare translations line by line, just have an idea of what is going on in the story

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288334
I don't understand people like you who are so obsessed with outputting as early as possible as if it matters for anyone beyond a few who have to live in Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

Just finished learning Japanese. Ask me anything.

[Anonymous No.]

One more annoying question: How do I use AnkiConnect and Yomichan? I have a word I want to add but am not sure how to proceed beyond that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288359
chin po ha dono kurai okii desu ka

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288357
It's like writing a program. If you don't outpu anything, how do you know it works?

[Anonymous No.]

flawless logic never thought of it that way before pack it up guys this guy figured it out

[Anonymous No.]

おいしいちんぽたべたい

[Anonymous No.]

Output method: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMTYnfTI97Y
Input method: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejRkuX1RGf4

The results speak for themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

木々
Wow, repeating a word makes it 複数. Japanese is a smart language.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288395
https://youtu.be/lKCFLDX5U30?t=23s

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288395
>2 months vs 2 years
I'd rather know Japanese in my lifetime

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288413
You're going to die within the next 2 years?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288427
no but that's way to long

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288430
What's a good time frame and why do you need to be able to speak within that time frame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288438
2 months so I can watch anime without subs

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288442
won't happen
>>19288395

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288438
4 years so I can use it at a party

[Anonymous No.]

I want to learn japanese so i can fuck pandas

[Anonymous No.]

noobs

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288043
then how are you going to associate 3 stars (森) with forest

You should stick with the mnemonics, it's going to severely fuck your shit up when he starts basing stories on other stories which are based on other stories

[Anonymous No.]

I want to learn japanese so I can be a panda

[Anonymous No.]

You got the wrong language dude
>>>/dct/

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288475
森 is a galaxy

[Anonymous No.]

What's the point of 転校生 and 転入生 if there is no difference?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288523
transfer student vs transferable student

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288523
They're different in a deep way, you just can't see it because you don't know japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288523
there is a difference

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone have good quality scans of japanese the manga way?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288523
>he doesn't know

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288523
Are you trolling? Is the level of shit posting in this thread really this high?

[Anonymous No.]

and they say im whats wrong with djt

poppycock

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288523
include me in the screen cap

[Anonymous No.]

>ヰスキー
>ヰ

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288073
Context. The negative imperative is only used as a direct prohibition, so if it doesn't make sense for the character to make a direct prohibition then it's the modal particle instead.

The positive imperative isn't ambiguous ever.

[Anonymous No.]

Hello /djt/, I can spare maybe 2 hours a week on studying japanese on average, do you think its possible to watch raw anime after 6 months? I figured I can skip kanji and kana since I'm not interested in reading and use romaji or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288613
>/djt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288613

[Anonymous No.]

>今日家でテレビを話す
what does 日家 mean in this context?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288620
what bitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288624

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288523
There isn't one really. They are basically used in the same way. The transfer student noun.

[Anonymous No.]

Horney desum fappu ikouyo??

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288523
>転校生
Student transfering from school to school only.

>転入生
Student that can go from school to school or from ambiguous, different place to school.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288645
>>19288630

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288624
One of those sun praising meme faggots from /v/

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288624
You've never seen a sunhouse? Are you an ESL?

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4JA0OBK_MQ#t=150

[Anonymous No.]

>>19285071
bumping this question, anyone knows any sources for more Graded Readers?

[Anonymous No.]

have you ever heard the story of the ghost kanji? they say that there are characters in standard computer dictionaries that nobody knows where they are from. Some even say a ghost modified the dictionaries before they were published.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288792
https://www.sljfaq.org/afaq/yuureimoji.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288357
that's factually false
it also matters to universities who need to prove to EOPs that their language classes work by demonstrating that students can talk about the weather and their 好きs and 嫌いs with ease

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288800
that shit's p. cool man

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine saying that you know Japanese but when someone asks you to prove it you say that you are not actually able to speak or write it
That's DJT

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288589
The gobi one - the pitch is inherited from the previous mora, and the length is usually longer than one mora's.
The negative imperative one - the pitch is always low, and the length is always one mora length.
So, they are not confusing during actual conversation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288901
no one said you can't learn to speak or write
holding your comprehension back to try to keep your production ability at the same level is not how language works
the only people who do not have much higher comprehension than production are illiterate
children listen for months before they produce, see krashen
by trying to force production from the beginning, you are limiting your progress in comprehension, which is limiting your progress in overall fluency

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288901
Followed by a lengthy explanation about forced production.

[Anonymous No.]

oh youre learning japansese thats cool

can you teach me some curse words

[Anonymous No.]

突撃
ボンサアアアアアアアアイ

[Anonymous No.]

so i just met this word 突撃

what the frig is a shock troop

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288974
ニーガ

[Anonymous No.]

くそ
uhh
クソ野郎
uuuh
クソ喰らえ
...

[Anonymous No.]

so its just basically kuso everything?

how do you say fuck

[Anonymous No.]

まああ
くそ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288966
show me how well you can prostrate yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289008
neegah?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288974
The language of the sun has very few insults, and they are mostly comical when used, so instead they use derogatory descriptions of the target individual they want to shame.

[Anonymous No.]

so how do you say fuck

[Anonymous No.]

ファッキュー

[Anonymous No.]

I can comprehend more japanese after studying it for 9 months than a 9 month old in japan can. This proves adults do learn faster and there is no cut off age for language acquisition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288974
中国

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289081
no its a shorter ga sound clean it up you lazy gaijin letting your syllables drag like your fuckin knuckles do across the ground

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289099
Let's see you comparing to a kid at the 6 year mark.

[Anonymous No.]

this kid smokes you at nihongo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsB-BIZB_YE

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288947
That too. But you can't use pitch to tell between them in manga or non-voiced game lines.

[Anonymous No.]

ペンタブレット壊れた
結構高かったのに
人生は楽なものじゃない

[Anonymous No.]

>feeding your kid the mcjew
Cute kid though.

[Anonymous No.]

he fuckin destroys that burger

[Anonymous No.]

by the way for those without comedic perception that was a multi layered joke im sure you can figure it out

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289277
This video makes me uncomfortable

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288901
Is 1 or 2 years really that long for you to wait to start speaking? Why? Why do you care so much?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289265
desu if he does ajatt he would absolutely destroy the 6 year old after that 6 years in everything except accent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289334
Yeah cause if you all keep waiting to practice speaking or at least learn its ropes you will end up like matt, and I assume you don't want that

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289355
Matt's a cool guy, I'd be glad to be like him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289355
i can see that you're an expert on the subject given the level of argument you're bringing

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone subscribed to fujitv.live? i just discovered this thing and its satisfying my weebness a lot

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289369
I myself don't find bald jug pisser cool but that's fine that's your thing I guess
Still it's not healthy to have standards that low
>>19289372
Thanks

[Anonymous No.]

reminder that 12 year olds only have a vocabulary of 10 000 words and their command of the language usually isn't all that amazing. I'd say adult learners can reach the level of an average 16 year old native

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289374
No. I enjoy refreshing the site every 3(5?) minutes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19282871

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289386
But no further than that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289390
its free all the time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289099
prove it by recording yourself talking with a native

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289397
Are you implying that being on the level of a 16 year old native is not impressive? Since you're probably a fucktard EOP imagine this: how well could you speak and write when you were 16 in English, and how well could you understand classic novels?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289406
Sure, but you'll have to subscribe to my patreon and give me 50 dollars per month first.

[Anonymous No.]

allah will smite anki

[Anonymous No.]

Whats the point in learning kanji alone? they seem to have different meanings, am so fucking confused...should i just learn them as they come in vocabulary?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289427
sure. where do I send all my money to? will you also upboat my videos?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289417
Maybe I should've asked you what do you think the difference is between a 16 year old and a full-fledged adult is. The vocabulary count? I can't say that there's much difference in comprehension of my native language between then and now, be it in relation standard language or dialects.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289444
Wasted trips

[Anonymous No.]

There's just a certain threshold you can't cross and it's not only because your brain doesn't have the plasticity anymore, it's also because you lived the first 20+ years of your life in English and your native language, and you can never erase that. Even if you lived in Japan for the rest of your life. You also missed out on cultural upbringing, things every Japanese person goes through growing up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289466
Wtf ....nigga go take a break or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289453
ask me how I know you never went to university

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289466
Thanks for your input EOP-kun, but I think I'll trust linguists who actually have sources and personal experience and who aren't just trying to make up excuses to not learn languages.

[Anonymous No.]

So, in other words, you'll never reach the fluency of a 16 year old nip.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289466
>You also missed out on cultural upbringing, things every Japanese person goes through growing up.
There are simulators for that https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCKJzBnveLS7oLpS8Q4m2eg

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289490
*I'll never reach the fluency of a 16 year old nip.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289499
お気の毒に

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289466
i tried to tell em that

you can always ask someone about the things youre able to discern as questionable (its a whole different story about the things you cant recognize and glaze right over because hey i know the words lmao i am nihongoing) but really depending on what youre doing it doesnt matter

if youre going heavy into books youre gonna get fucked sometimes


but when japanese communicate with gaijin in a positive atmosphere they get to be free from their social system a bit and just loosen up

you see it all the time its almost like a form of rebellion for some

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289489
Sorry to disappoint but English isn't my first language.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289505
自分を気の毒に思ってどうすんだよアホｗｗｗｗｗｗ

[Anonymous No.]

>/djt/ will fight tooth and nail to prove that they can and will reach the fluency of 16 year old
>the next moment they'll ridicule you for trying to do that and link you to /int/ because output isn't necessary for reading cartoon porn

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289520
Oh, so you're just retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

There's no proof Steve (Kaufmann) is fluent in any language he claims he knows, he only speaks English in his videos and sounds terrible when actually speaking something like Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw speak english and arabic
>tfw learning nippon is a piece of cake

[Anonymous No.]

This thread is terrible. Nobody here knows Japanese. Just let it die.

[Anonymous No.]

I kinda know Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

https://vocaroo.com/i/s1oaOyng8TRO

[Anonymous No.]

うんこボロスは死ぬことなど出来ない

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289524
You convinced me in the necessity of delaying output.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289561
You convinced me in the necessity of eugenics.

[Anonymous No.]

日本語などわかっていない馬鹿が多いです

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289561
no, had he been outputting from the beginning he would have been corrected by now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289552
Arabic and Hiragana have a lot of similarities, why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289574
Making an ass out of yourself and paying attention when people make remarks is one way to do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289574
I haven't been corrected because my nihongo level is genius, faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289587
Newfag here, after lurking for sometime i came to the conclusion that you are all fucking retards

bye

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289574
you know what's an even better way of correcting bad output? more input.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289604
Good one, even r/learnjapanese is better than this shithole

[Anonymous No.]

im nihongo 王

here i sit on my 王座

wreckin weeb suckaz

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289466
バカの壁 in action.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289466
>>19289508
And how is this specific to Japanese or non-native speakers? Do you think all native English speakers had the cultural upbringing required to fully understand Faulkner novels?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289607
yeah that's why matt is so good at japanese and doesn't have to stop to say まあ every five seconds

[Anonymous No.]

who the fuck is matt

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289620
It isn't, actually it isn't specific to anything since they are just trying to make up shit to cope for their inability to learn a foreign language.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19286627
以下
下品
下
風下
「彼の下で…」
下げる
下る
下ろす
It's easy

[Anonymous No.]

where can i get article-length stories?

something like a copy pasta size

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289620
theres different types of english upbringings all over the globe

japan has regional differences but its still all under one umbrella

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289622
>yeah that's why matt is so good at japanese
correct. when you reach his level of input, then you can start outputting poorly and getting corrected. until then, continue input.

[Anonymous No.]

mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289642
What are you trying to say with this post? Can you write something coherent for once or are you just too stupid?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289573
自分が話せると思う奴が多い。話す練習すればよかった。

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289661
the stupid calling the not stupid stupid because they cant understand the not stupid is typically a thing the stupid do stupid

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289659
so basically I just have to watch 10000 hours of anime got it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289642
You still haven't explained what makes this mystical Japanese upbringing different from a Deep South upbringing or a Norwegian upbringing or an Armenian upbringing. Why does this threshold not exist in other languages and cultures?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289664
Another reason output should be delayed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289697
I don't see anything wrong with his post. Care to explain, smartass?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289672
10000 hours of anime or you're gay

[Anonymous No.]

none of you are actually studying Japanese

you're shitposting so hard that it rendered me, king of forced memes and not reading and other procrastinations, to stop regularly posting in the thread, now I justed skim it every eight hours and spend the rest of my time reading

it's time to stop posting

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289688
i dont know any other countries on earth like japan so why dont you start there

either way its not mystical and its not a secret but if youre not in it then your outside of it and unless you spend a lot of time being close to it then you will always be far from it

do you get it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288012
start puffin' boy

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289640
Just go to Yahoo answers, or something.
https://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1049004750

[Anonymous No.]

It's amazing how the retards who think Japanese is some kind of magical forbidden language that foreigners are physically unable to learn keep proving their lack of intelligence. They have absolutely no arguments for why they think language acquisition is literally impossible, it's all based on how their FEELings. At this rate I think I'll just stick to linguists and their research, yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289715
>eight hours and spend the rest of my time reading
that's a lot of input. how good are you at nip now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289715
swallow my nut, bitch boy

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288306
You don't need kanji to read that(it's got furigana), and radicals contain no information. You just don't know any words.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289733
I think there's only one guy who frequently posts here who thinks output needs to be done within the first few months of learning. Same guy who talks about piss jugs and 10000 hours of anime. Anyone else who agrees with him is usually a newfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289733
>appeal to authority

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289739
まあ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289742
>You don't need kanji to read that(it's got furigana)
shouldn't you read shit without relying on furigana so you can look up the word and try to remember the reading?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289769
it doesn't actually make a difference

[Anonymous No.]

Why does it have to be 10000 hours of anime? why it can't be drama or just japanese tv? fucking anime is shit and will limit your learning to bullshit stories

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289777
trips of truth

[Anonymous No.]

How do I learn Japanese?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289769
if you're worrying about kanji then this is not going to be an issue. furigana is only "distracting" to upper intermediates who are insecure about their skill level.

[Anonymous No.]

>the more japanese i learn the more i get how long the road still is

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289782
>drama or tv

these are better than anime, neckbeards that build their entire identity around jerking to cartoon girls are the only ones that think you should watch 10000 hours of anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289790
read all the time

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289782
actually it's 10000 hours of 実況プレイ so you can understand how a native thinks. 10000 hours of anime and you will start to sound like a loser chuuni

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289782
because it's not REAL JAPANESE

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289798
Actually, the road is infinite, because learning Japanese is impossible to lowly foreigners.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288613
No, at 2 hours a week you won't be able to cook instant ramen after 10 years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289790
give up while you still can. the problem with Japanese is that the point where you dont want to stop because you don't want to waste all of the time you invested comes before the point where you understand just how impossible it really is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289782
if you cant figure out what i mean when i say 10000 hours del los subbed animes then thats on tu

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289715
you played a big part in this
good job
now i can also spend the rest of my time reading

[Anonymous No.]

It doesn't matter how many hours of anime you watch, since japanese is impossible it'll just be all a waste of time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289782
if you genuinely fucking think learning a language via cartoons is "limiting" in any significant way in the first year of learning then you're a fucking moron.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone have a working h-code for sora no kiseki the third? The ones I've found crash it, even when you aren't using a no-dvd exe and are on the recommended patch(102). Tried making my own but all I could get was "y" over and over.

[Anonymous No.]

日本語で話したいんですけどゲイさんたちと話したくない。それでDJTのみなさんにはFUCK・OFFしかないんです。

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289858
This. There's no way for it to be limiting since the time you have to spend on japanese is unlimited.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289715
one day when the rest follow your lead i too will finally earn my eternal rest

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289859
use cheat engine to make your own btw

much easier to learn how to debug with it than ollydbg

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289859
H-codes are for fags who don't know Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289875
where do you think you are

[Anonymous No.]

dont give them the game genie codes because then theyll have nothing left to strive for

[Anonymous No.]

There is nothing to strive for because japanese is impossible, therefore unstrivable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289860
DJTのみなは日本語に返事しない。わからないから。諦めて英語を使った方がいい

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289903
it's みんな or みなさん you dumb cunt. never fuck this up again.

[Anonymous No.]

射精したいという強い欲求はあるが気持ちよさはそれ程でも無い
射精の気持ち良さなんか数値化されてないし
リアルじゃ普通話さないし
ネットじゃ色々誇張されて書かれるしだけど
正直多分個人差があるんじゃ無いか？っと思ってる
ただダイエット出来ないデブが食べるのを我慢できないのと同じで
激ウマ高級料理ほどの味も満足感も無くても飢餓感だけで
とにかく射精はしないと駄目なんだ
若いうちはそれでもまぁまぁ気持ちよかったが
年取ってきて正直射精に快感はまったく感じないし惨めだし中々出なくて寧ろ辛いが
それでもオナニーはしないと女の胸を揉みたいとか抱きつきたいという衝動は抑えられない

Translate it, weebs.

[Anonymous No.]

長すぎ読んでない

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289916
the pleasure of being cummed inside: short essay form

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289916
>Google "Japanese that doesn't make any sense"
>this is the first thing that comes up
>on pantsu-ya's blog for pissing off gaijin

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289921
お前は日本語が分からねーしどうせ翻訳できる訳ではないしな

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289916
>それでもオナニーはしないと女の胸を揉みたいとか抱きつきたいという衝動は抑えられない
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289940
アホな外人のためにこんなつまらんことやりたかねーや

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289916

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289858
>>19289866
Fuck off, watching JDrama, TV, Podcast and Radio is far better than your dumb cartoon

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289966
spoiler: anime are normal Japanese tv

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289973
if your 12, are you 12?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289982
spoiler: you're 12

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289982
はい

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289715
I only study Japanese to be part of the community. Just knowing enough to make some jokes about rtk and understand dekinai memes is good enough for me.

[Anonymous No.]

You're all twelve 精神的に lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290011
Good. Now that jamal has left we need more shitposters in this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtvZ696kcyg

Share chill tunes to aid each other's nihongo learning efforts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289966
it's about listening to what you enjoy. cartoons will easily get you to the point where podcasts and dramas become 90%+ comprehensible input. if you want to listen to podcasts from the get-go then go ahead. surely they will better teach you colloquial japanese and more vocab than cartoons. who else here said otherwise? there you go you retarded newfag. i gave you the information you're too fucking dumb to understand yourself, causing you to bait for viewpoints on djt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290018
Jamal didn't leave though

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290018
>>19289868

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290027
He posts less often, I suspect there's some copycats trying to imitate him though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289913
Don't be a close minded nigger.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there an extension to auto hide shit posting

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290034
righteousness is no excuse for this you will be destroyed

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290037
There's filters, you'll probably hide 99% of the posts of this thread though

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290024
はいーよ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRgHPhCbo0c

[Anonymous No.]

btw how much of that vid do you understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290056
That's English though.

[Anonymous No.]

The problem I have with filters is that they filter people who contribute to the thread but also happen to respond to bait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290056
what video?

[Anonymous No.]

you can struggle to hide from reality with your filters but the truth within never changes

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290064
The problem I have with filters is that they only hide posts so I still get angry when I see them, making it pointless

[Anonymous No.]

3時間日本語だけで話しよう。日本語スレには負けたくない。

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290091
Alright let's see if weeks of RTK will allow me to read this sentence.
3 time, gate(that's a guess), day, book, word, tale, day, book, word, bound up. Nope nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

ブルジョア階級とそのげすどもよ。その醜い姿で、まだ生き恥をさらしたい野か。プロレタリア階級の炎の中で暴れ狂うが良い。プロレタリア階級に栄光あれ。

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290091
だが断る
それやっぱ無理だろ
このスレは初心者ばっかりだし、ちゃんと日本語を話せる人は少なすぎてマジ無理

[Anonymous No.]

>「まだ経験していないお尻みたいね。あの人のアレが大きすぎて入らなかったとか？」
>tfw you learned japanese just so you could read nothing but smut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290106
>bound up
defeated*

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289277

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290113
完璧な日本語で話さなくてはならないことじゃない。頑張りましょう

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290111
難しい言葉をたくさん知る人ですね。今辞書を使えないからわかりません。

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290132
せいやな

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290111
共産主義者ですか

[Anonymous No.]

yalls nihongo is really good keep posting

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290091
>>19290106
alright, let's see if weeks of manga will allow me to read this sentence.
let's talk for 3 hours in nihongo only. don't want nihongo thread to lose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290163
いやああああああまだです

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290170
can't tell if jest

[Anonymous No.]

This is /jp/, not /int/. Excessive use of any languages other than English may result in a ban. Keep that in mind.

[Anonymous No.]

現在アニメを見ている人がいますか。どのアニメですか

[Anonymous No.]

元気で良かった！！！！！！！！

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290185
https://www.4chan.org/rules
I don't see it anywhere written that you can't speak languages other than english but good to know that it's forbidden to speak Japanese in a Japanese culture board

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290200
honestly thats for the best

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290185
even nip? why did mods move us here? was it part of their plan to get rid of us for good?

[Anonymous No.]

How much do you practice handwriting? I've been doing handwriting through Anki, to get the Kanji down better. But I'm starting to wonder if it's just a huge waste of time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290206
if you dont have a reason to dont do it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290202
It would have been for the best if your mother had 中絶'd you, but you can't have everything you want.

[Anonymous No.]

ladies and gentlemen, anki

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290208
what's your reason to post here

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290206
I do it because that's what RTK forces you to do but IDK if it's worth it. t. dekinai

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290233
>t. dekinai
It's okay, this entire thread is made up of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290223
to save at least one otherwise eternally damned fool

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290238
are you implying that this thread is saving you from eternal damnation
deepest lore

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290206
I think it's useful and I do it daily. Might not be necessary to do forever, but being able to write a lot of the common words helps me look up words I don't know (hat use the same kanji) and Japanese text feels a lot "clearer" to me than it did before.

[Anonymous No.]

How do I fix the problem with not knowing who is doing a certain action?

[Anonymous No.]

read japango the mango way

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290253
Learn Japanese
Oh wait you can't cause it's literally impossible, too bad lol

[Anonymous No.]

japango is possible for all people without exception

[Anonymous No.]

You forgot the im before possible

[Anonymous No.]

only for you is there no im in possible

[Anonymous No.]

バンされない間に日本語を使います。ルールを見つけなかったんです。

[Anonymous No.]

im possible, your impossible

[Anonymous No.]

What's the point of the cards on the DoJG deck where the answers/grammatical explanations are already on the front?

[Anonymous No.]

your possibly gay

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290278
誰でもできます。あなたも彼も

[Anonymous No.]

ooga booga wher da kanji at

[Anonymous No.]

Who else here remembers DJT when RTK was actually genuinely considered a method of learning Japanese and not just used as meme 99% of the time

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290303
tbqh if you didn't know all the kanji before starting to learn japanese you're retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290303
/a/の時はなつかしい

[Anonymous No.]

when i found djt it had so much fuckin aids and cancer and polyps and shit

now the day where it will be discharged from the hospital is upon us..

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290313
そろそろ退院する時間ですね

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290303
The fact that you should used it hasn't changed one bit. You're bound to have a much harder time remembering shit if you don't memorise the kanji properly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290177
Who the fuck is keeposa

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw you'll be a 日本語 baby forever

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290326
why do vocal posters here claim otherwise?

[Anonymous No.]

you dont need rtk but if youre learning nihongo itll help and if youre not learning nihongo then it wont

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290350
Because they're idiots who have decided that their shit methods are the ONE AND TRUE way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290329
monkaS

[Anonymous No.]

>100% review retention
it was only 35 cards but still felt nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290348
しかたがありません。子供の時は一番の始める時です。今は二番の時

[Anonymous No.]

>100% review retention
it was only 0 cards but still felt nice

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290350
I actually used to shit all over RTK in these threads when I was just getting started a couple of years ago and trying to just "learn" kanji through vocab because I was too lazy to do RTK. I've since then changed my mind completely after the whole scheme started falling apart and the only characters that stuck in my head were the most common ones.
It's not at all safe to assume that those people actually know what they're talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290363
>>19290321
>>19290293
>>19290275
>>19290197
>>19290195
>>19290171
>>19290159
>>19290146
>>19290132
>>19290113
>>19290111
>>19290091
stop trying to force output. you sound retarted.

[Anonymous No.]

俺様を止めるなんて出来ると思うのかい？
甘いんだぞい

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290418
>retarted
ironic epic fail

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290418
Funny story, I actually copy pasted half of those lines from comments by native speakers on Youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

Anki is so glichy and shit, how the fuck its so popular

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290426
it was on purpose to see if they're any redeemables in this thread. congratulations you win

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290431
There's nothing better nigga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290429
That's funny. I also copy pasted half of these from native comments on YouTube. Guess he doesn't know what he's talkin about

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290435
You can stop now

[Anonymous No.]

no

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290461
yamete kudasai

[Anonymous No.]

パパにそっくりじゃんww

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone have the huge jouyou onyomi chart that an anon made like 2 years ago?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290352

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290466
who is?

>>19290463
fine

[Anonymous No.]

Can anyone recommend a resource for nailing down all the different forms of Japanese words like suru, shite, shita etc etc? This shit is proving to be harder than anything else for me. Learning when to use them, which ones to use, it's all very difficult. How did you guys get these different forms down?

[Anonymous No.]

stop that shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290501
This is a reddit repost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290501
http://genki.japantimes.co.jp/self/verbadjective-conjugation-practice

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290431
Just use Wanikani.

[Anonymous No.]

never recommend that resource again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290501
the reddit page you copied should have some useful replies i think

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290431
I've never used nuanki and neither should have you.

[Anonymous No.]

would you a wanikani

[Anonymous No.]

would you a busu?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290605
would you believe i a wanikani and i a regret

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290588
>>19290518
What is your fascination with reddit? Do you know how fucking lame it would be for an actual redditor to come over here and see you guys bitching about reddit all the time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290621
shit guys pretend to look cool so they wont leave oh wait this thread is trash

[Anonymous No.]

>>19288974
not necessarily curse words but you will sometimes see 外道 and 畜生 and ヒトモドキ online

[Anonymous No.]

>>19289871
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind in the future. Was only trying Ollydbg since I found a guide for it. Is there one for cheat engine?

Also, the sora no kiseki 3rd 1.01 h-code works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290614
i already do but she gives me head and cleans up after me so ┐( ´ д ` )┌

[Anonymous No.]

You all fucking suck holy shit kys famalamtachi

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287654
I think hes trying to make some lame joke on how some japanese youtubers might have like a tiny bit of korean ancestry

[Anonymous No.]

or maybe hes not and youre just lame

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290614
We already talked about this
Bottom left is pretty cute, bottom right is okay, upper left should lose weight and upper right has fucked up teeth, skin and facial structure so I don't know if she could be saved

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290621
What's your fascination with copying what people write on that site?

[Anonymous No.]

Don't I have to go through like 100 000 characters to see if I know them all if I tick all the boxes on DJT Kana? This makes no sense

[Anonymous No.]

top left is top tier if you disagree get off of jp

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290621
I'm a redditor and am honored

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290677
t. 萌え豚

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290665
A ctrl+F of this thread yields 15 hits for reddit. That's fucking embarrassing. Believe it or not I actually don't browse reddit, but from I've seen they don't give a shit about us. So why are you acting like an insecure disgruntled ex who won't stop talking about his girlfriend who stopped caring about him long ago? And this general is the fucking worst about it too. I honestly miss the days when we would go tell faggots to an hero instead. Can we have that back?

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like I'm surrounded by fucking idiots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290737
I, too, was 14 years old once.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290246
how does it help you look up words?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290742
Do people magically get smarter when you reach boomer age or something
or did you just get stupider

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290750
>Do people magically get smarter when you reach boomer age or something
Not magically, no, but biologically we do. Our frontal cortex develops, we become less edgy and stubborn with less hormones pumping through our system, and we generally are set in our ways and have shit figured out unless they're a fucking failure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290746
dont post gore in this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290910
everyone thinks they have shit figured out till they get punched in the mouth

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290910
So you got brainwashed into losing all personality or individuality you had

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284982

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290932
I became so much smarter when I became a boomer. don't worry, you won't be a stupid mellinial forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290928
I wanted to come up with a response to this but it's honestly so fucking dumb that I won't bother.

>>19290932
Incorrect. The older we get, the more we figure ourselves out. The more individuality we have. Kids and teenagers spend most of their time finding their individuality, which manifests itself in a variety of different ways. I believe the current trend is going trans or some faggy shit. Once you're older you start viewing the world from yourself rather than on others, for the first time. It's a weird feeling called responsibility. You'll know what I mean when you get there.

[Anonymous No.]

Do you agree with Matt on this one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290957
im sure your response wasnt that dumb have more esteem in yourself mate

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290958
who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290978
Matt

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290989
whos thatt

[Anonymous No.]

If your list ain't horizontal you don't have shit figured out.

[Anonymous No.]

Is your true level when you are at your worst?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290994
whose who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291009
yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGa_7r6mPJU#t=24

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291040
i thought it was going to be something useful. oh well at least I didn't get Rick rolled

[Anonymous No.]

I've been studying japanese for 16 hours a day in the past 3 years. I can speak it much more fluently than everyone in this shitty thread combined. Try me faggots, i will rip you to shreds with my knowledge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291120
あなたはゲイですか

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291117
whats that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291129
what's what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291120
mirror your post in nihongo and if you do it successfully i will feel inclined to respond to you in nihongo with praise and kudos and frankly much fanfare

>>19291135
"rick roll"

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291125
>あなたはゲイですか
私は同性愛者ではありませんが、可愛い男の子の肛門を見れば、私はそれに浸透します。
>>19291137
私は過去3年間に1日16時間日本語を勉強しています。私は、このくそったスレッドのすべての人よりもずっと流暢に話すことができます。私を騙してみてください、私はあなたが私の知識で細断してくれるでしょう。

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291146
fake. this post was photoshopped

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291162
あなたの母親は偽者です。

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291172
お母さまについて話すな

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291146
my hopes dashed once again

わたしは騙されないぜ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291195
>>19291196
私は朝食のためにあなたを産んだ女性を性交する。

[Anonymous No.]

>>19290958
Honestly I say that I hate anime because dumb weebs who pretend to know japanese because they "learned" it from anime like it
In reality I really don't give a shit about it. Hating things that can't hate you back is stupid in the first place, and I've actually watched a few anime (about 50) and I liked them, even the ones that were bad since I drop boring shit immediately. I admire matt for not being ashamed of his otaku tendencies, even if he fucking glues manga pages to his wall, but I tend to think that people who learn japanese for anime think that's all japanese culture is, which is quite ignorant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291208
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6rDmDw94bs#t=602

[Anonymous No.]

im the girl with the big railgun btw in case you dont understand nihongo

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291208
死ね

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291146
I looked at this post, and went "yeah that's gotta be google translate", and turns out it actually was, but I didn't genuinely consider the possiblity of it being google translate, so good job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291223
>>19291237
>>19291247
>brainlets who can't tell it's a genuine post
lmaoing rn

[Anonymous No.]

im gonna clue you dorks who are still sticking around in this hunka shit thread in on one of the jokes now

when you take one glance at that and see all the 私はs you should know its google translate

this is why i always say わたしは as well to make you scrubs feel more comfortable

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291264
who?

[Anonymous No.]

わ・た・し
だよ

*winks at か・め・ら*

[Anonymous No.]

だれ？

[Anonymous No.]

なんで

[Anonymous No.]

わ・た・し aka
d・j・tの
支・配・者

だよ

[Anonymous No.]

Is むっつり is what yomichan says it is?
>「むふふ、因幡さんと椎葉さんも実はむっつりなのかな？」
Girls just got embarrassed from being accused of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291222
Go back to /int/

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291382
I've probably been here for more time than you

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291398
You probably have but,
>but I tend to think that people who learn japanese for anime think that's all japanese culture is, which is quite ignorant.
Caring about culture outside otaku media is not what this board is for. Also you can not learn japanese without watching anime, please give me one example of the contrary.

[Anonymous No.]

Can somebody explain the difference between 今日は祭か and 今日とは祭か ? The first is asking if there is a festival today, but the second way is being used in a manga, with とは added in. What is the significance of this?

[Anonymous No.]

look ive got thread seniority so you better listen up

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291367
むっつりすけべ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291420
Maybe it some JSL asking if the word 今日 means 祭.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291488
今日とは祭か is quoted verbatim with the translating being "is there a festival today", and I'm asking why とは is being used instead of just は.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291498
I was being sarcastic, don't think so much just feel.

Also don't use translations.

[Anonymous No.]

血祭りだよ

>>19282698

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291518
>Also don't use translations.
I'm at the level where I need translations or I'm not going to learn fucking anything. I wish to get to the point where I won't need them, though.

[Anonymous No.]

なかよくしなさい

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291546
10000 hours of los animes muchacho

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291551
偽物の友達わたしはいらない

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291554
I have likely watched around that length of subbed anime, but I have not been actively trying to pay attention to what they were saying. That, and it goes much too fast for a beginner. I don't understand how anyone could learn the language simply by watching anime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291420
https://core6000.neocities.org/hjgp/
Find とは and see which of those fits the context

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291572
>>19285274

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291546
in the scenerio you just listed there was no need for translation, through context and knowledge of the words 今日 and 祭 you could deduce a meaning. Also most scenarios are like this, when I say don't use translations I don't mean not to look up words and grammatical structures I mean to not look at a direct English translation of the whole sentence/text.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291706
I have always been wary of just piecing together sentences by knowing parts of them and making my best guess, because it feels like I will not be able to form my own sentences or really understand things by doing that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291773
so then read unko chan and stop doin that

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291773
Also don't translate your own sentences.

God damn, with 10000 hours of subbed anime you would expect someone to know at least a little 日本語

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291841
It literally does not matter how much anime you watch. If it is just for entertainment, you won't learn anything. You have to be purposefully trying to learn. Otherwise you'll just catch on to the basic sayings (なに?, おはいよ!, etc)

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291888
>おはいよ!
Here we see the unrivaled level of skill someone who is purposefully trying to learn has.

[Anonymous No.]

dang epic self own anime truly reigns supreme

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291902
More like someone who is just quickly typing on their keyboard, faggot. I know how to spell おはよう and 何

[Anonymous No.]

So I have been doing core for about a month and at the moment I'm getting 160+ reviews tomorrow despite having 90%+ retention rates. atm I'm doing 20/cards day so I'm thinking of just setting it to 0 till i bring it down a bit or maybe press easy more often ( I pretty much only press hard) Any suggestions? I don't want to spend more than an hour on anki a day

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291950
160+ reviews is normal for 20 new cards a day. Personally 20 was always a little too much for me, so I stuck with 15 for awhile.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291950
>press easy more often ( I pretty much only press hard)

You're supposed to push "Good" the majority of the time. Easy and hard are special cases.

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>>19291960
I mean in theory it's only going to go up as I progress in right? I'm only at like 560/6000 ( Though i might stop after 3k or something I haven't though that far) so while 160 might be okay, i don't wanna do 300+

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291950
burn up your flashcards like an asteroid they are never gonna fill the void

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291970
Yeah, I initially only pressed hard to solidify the information but I guess i will press good more often now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291971
You'll hover around 240, which was mine with around 85% retention. The amount of reviews is logarithmic, so while the initial jump is high, your reviews won't increase by much over time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291950
>90%+ retention rates
Where is this statistic?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291986
some anki addon: https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/613684242

[Anonymous No.]

I'm burnt out on anki, it feels like such a fucking chore and I hate it but I'm still an absolute beginner that's 3 months in so reading is hard as fuck and I feel like I'm making no progress. Is this the point where people usually give up? I guess if I persevere now with reading I'll progress faster in the future when it becomes less shitty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292044

Get a grammar book like Japanese the Manga Way and watch Japanese news like ANN live on YouTube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292044
>burnt out
Bad reddit meme. Suck it up and stop needing to have fun every second of your life

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292044
force yourself to do it for a little longer. after like 9 months you won't want to quit because it would feel like a waste.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291356
>だ
stop talking like an anime character

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291960
>>19291971
>>19291980
>>19292044
My advice is to delete anki and never look back as anki is a complete waste of time.

Read for an extra hour every day and you will progress much faster.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292062
>stop needing to have fun every second of your life
The opposite of this is true
>>19292065
I still haven't missed a day but rote learning new words out of context is fucking shit. Reviews are tolerable. I'll stick with it I suppose

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292080
I would slow down on new words and find the words used in context. especially if you're using something like core.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292072
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292068
ごめんだべ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292072
Anki been great so far, and its only about 1/3 of my daily study 1/1/1 routine (Raw/reps/grammar)

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292115
>da
stop talking like an anime character

[Anonymous No.]

I wish new cards, yesterday's reviews, and all other reviews could be scheduled at different times of the day. For the past several days I would do my reviews, do my new cards, review "forgotten cards" in the afternoon, then "review ahead 1 day" before bed so that I wouldn't have a lot of reviews the next morning. It would let me review what I had just learned that morning on top of what reviews would be due the next day. I would fail some cards, which would schedule them for the next day. The next day I'd only have 30-40 due reviews, and then I would do my new cards. And I liked this approach, but I think reviewing ahead 1 day for several days in a row just fucks with the algorithm and prevents you from answering "hard, good, easy", which in turn causes the reviews to pile up. I guess the only half-assed solution is to do new cards in the morning and then exit the program and wait to do reviews in the afternoon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292072
t. dictionary slave

[Anonymous No.]

just fuckin decide today that youre not gonna settle for less than learning nihongo and jump on that shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuqcoN47y58

[Anonymous No.]

ye

[Anonymous No.]

>1087 posts
>99% of them are shit
what was the reason for this thread again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292379
what was the reason for your post again? who you quoting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292379
~wish in one hand post in the other and see which one fills up first~

[Anonymous No.]

>>19282156
I think subs are useful, especially for a second watch. Also you can "read" for a bit to understand the context then stop using them. Also if Matt told you to jump off a bridge would you do it?

[Anonymous No.]

maat wouldnt tell you to jump off a bridge because then he cant get your patreon money

[Anonymous No.]

It doesn't make any sense to use Japanese definitions in most cases. The point of anki is to create an entry in your brain to make a word easier to remember, not to teach you the word. Going by this logic it's much more effective to use an English definition, which can usually be summed up into 1-3 words that give you a good enough idea of what something is, making your rep and card creation times faster so you can read and listen more. Here's an example:

湯沸し

湯を沸かすのに用いる（金属製の）容器。また、湯を沸かすための装置。

Why on earth would I read all that shit when I could just glance down and see "tea kettle" instead and move on? In this case I've gained nothing out of using the J-J definition and lost out on time. There are cases where it's better to use the J-J version, but I think going all monolingual is a meme.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't think you understand conditionals. "if X, Y" means that if the condition X is satisfied (for whatever reason) then Y would happen as a consequence. When I said "If Matt told you to jump off a bridge" not "Will Matt ask you to jump off a bridge." It doesn't matter whether or not he wants your pajon money. That wasn't what I asked. I'm saying if the condition is filled, would you jump off a bridge? I'm guessing most of you would judging how quick all of you are to throw away your study methods as soon as anybody shits on them. Don't even give it a second though about whether there is even any truth to the shot post. you just do it. That alone suggests that you would jump off a bridge. Especially if he told you it would make you fluent.

[Anonymous No.]

i dont care what you asked the world revolves around me

[Anonymous No.]

DAKARA

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw learned a new word

[Anonymous No.]

Yes since I decided to read instead of use anki my vocab is large that finding a new word is astronomically rare.

When will you guys learn. tisk tisk.

[Anonymous No.]

People confidently declare all sorts of opposing viewpoints in these threads such that nobody's advice can be trusted. Intuition alone must carry beginners forward.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are katakana so difficult compared to hiragana

[Anonymous No.]

could be useful later on

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292496
>>19288620

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

For all newfags, the only fact is read more. Everything else is debatable.

[Anonymous No.]

Newfags literally can't read because they haven't learned kanji yet. Do RTK first.

[Anonymous No.]

it my dream to finish rtk and then learn everything else through context and prove rtk haters wrong...

[Anonymous No.]

10000 hours of anime or your gay

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292531
Newfags shouldn't be giving advice to newfags though

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292453
i see you my ninja

big ups

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292531
>read more
>newfags
If we mean truly newfags then reading doesn't do shit. You need to at least be able to understand 200+ common words and sentence structures, in addition to hiragana / katana, before you can read even the most basic (pre-school level) material.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292549

[Anonymous No.]

Beginners should follow Clephas-sama's advice and start with Dies irae.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292597
>>19292549
it's 10000 hours of 実況プレイso you know how to talk to yourself properly

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292604
i said that too and youve just been there to keep echoing it for me which is appreciated

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292603
>start with the hardest material to force yourself to learn
That's not how it works. Starting with hard material is probably the least efficient way you could possibly learn, and my that I mean you won't learn anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292612
Are you saying you know better than Clephas-sama? Because I doubt you do. https://forums.fuwanovel.net/blogs/entry/1017-something-to-keep-in-mind-why-my-perspective-is-different-than-yours/

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292603
i cant even imagine how shit like that happens

in my day we just played our nice happy get the girl games and have generally a good time

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292611
ah naruhodo it's geisama the one who will guide us down the only correct path to fluency

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292621
If that is his advice then yes, yes I am saying that.

[Anonymous No.]

I just read a yotsubato page without having to need to look up any words.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292621
the image already gave me hiv then i willingly went to fuwanovel and got fullblown aid`s

>>19292627
the only correct path is the one you forge yourself with your daikatana

idk what shit youre trippin on i never said theres 1 way to do anything especially not learn nihongo

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292636
Here's one from a former /a/ tripfag for your viewing pleasure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292634
good shit man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292634
Wish I could do this

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292634
How long did it take to reach this point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292634
Was it this one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292647
How many hours is 700 anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292663
bout tree fiddy

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292647
i hope that dude didnt give up on nihongo

thats the kinda bad ending that would truly break my heart

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292663
Fewer than 10k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292647
>>19292603
I'm not following these. can someone explain?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292634
That's nice but yotsubato is not reading, it's manga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292669
you remember the short lived phenomenon of youtube poops? its just that in image form and you cna make all the sound effects and fart noises while you read the shit thats on them

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292667
What if at least half of those are anime with almost 100 episodes like ashita no joe and rurouni kenshin?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292657
2 weeks
>>19292656
some pages are really easy tbf
>>19292659
almost

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292663
I don't know but this is how many hours 2200 anime takes

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292663
12 episodes at 24 mins per episode for 700 anime is 3360 hours of anime. you need about 3 times this so you'd have to watch about 2100 anime to become fluent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292677
that appears to be more than 10000 hours

congratulations you have earned your posting wings in djt

hold your head high and fly even higher as one of jamals jets

nihongo will find you someday

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292673
that's false if shitty vine compilations and earrape counts as ytp

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292677
can you watch raw anime yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292681
Do you even know who you're talking to? He had already invented the Finnish method a long time before you started babbling about "anime 10k". 調子に乗るんじゃねえ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292673
>>19292690
fuck I forgot to quote the "short lived phenomenon" part

[Anonymous No.]

Proof that youtube poop is still alive and well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRgnqEmlfIs

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292663
# of anime is dumb since you can probably reach 10k hours with about 50 long running shows. I mean hell, detective conan is at what, 900 episodes now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292692
but anon *cant keep a straight face* were all *face starts contorting real hard* anonymous *爆笑s*

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292691
Yes, for a few years now

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292634
I'm almost there but all the verb forms are still throwing me off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292677
>>19292704
you have 10 seconds to post your top 3 anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292710
One Piece
Naruto
Bleach

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292604
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF8iJkxRs0c

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292715
you can take djt out of the /a/ but you cant take the a out of /djt/

granted 2 of those are really good..

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292710
だから、僕はHができない
High School DxD
Oreimo

[Anonymous No.]

now thats just offensive

well maybe not hsdxd

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292710
King of the Hill
Teen Titans
Archer

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292710
Ignore the other answers please, that's not me.
1. Boku no Pico
2. Boku no Pico
3. Boku no Pico

[Anonymous No.]

what about pico x chico

[Anonymous No.]

how does my preference for anime offend you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292710
hxh
monogatari
non non biyori

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292710
New Game!
New Game!!
New Game!!! (coming soon)

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292710
1. Yozakura Quartet
2. Monogatari
3. Full Metal Panic fumoffu

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292743
it doesnt the anime itself is just repugnant but that doesnt really have anything to do with you

[Anonymous No.]

>the japanese thread is full of weebs

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292710
Evangelion
Full metal Alchemist Brotherhood
Dragon ball

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292756
This is the real one. Trust me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292710
Hunter x Hunter
Berserk
Darker than Black

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292710
Haruhi (the movie)
Katanagatari
NNB

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292757
>>19292779
These are the only genuine ones so far, although that's not really the point of the meme here

[Anonymous No.]

since so many nice boys posted some nice animes ill share with you a great anime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iflsELvgrfw

as far as i know acceptable quality english subtitles dont exist for it unless you want jp > ita > en subs so youre gonna have to be in the nihongo big boy club to tackle this one

should you have the cojones for it youll be rewarded handsomely

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292785
I was genuine too. Guess you just ignore shit you don't like as if the world is all roses. btw this is me >>19292739

[Anonymous No.]

So uhh start reading huh? Well what should i read at first? Tell me your personal favourite beginner thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292813
刀語

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292813
Yotsubato then hanahira dude read the fricking guide

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292813
NHK easy news isn't reading.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292710
1. Detective Conan
2. Rurouni Kenshin
3. FMA: Brotherhood

It is probably werid to have DC there when I stopped watching in the 300s. Mystery stories are so formulaic that I have to take long breaks before I can get back into them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292710
Eva
Pingpong
Hachimans adventures

[Anonymous No.]

(>'_')>-(>'_')>

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292822
>FMA: Brotherhood
oh shit how did I forget about that one

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292828
-(>'_')>(>'_')>

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292710
機動戦士ガンダム
ARIA The Animation
灰羽連盟

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292822

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292833
-----(>'(>'_')>

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292822
I watched all of Conan in around 6 months. I'd suggest only watching the story related episodes first and then going back for the others if you still want to watch more

[Anonymous No.]

How do I tell the difference for から? It can mean because or also from. Any tips? Something simple like ここから usually means "from here" but when it comes to longer sentences, I get confused.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292845
Conan was great but they stopped dubbing after like episode 70. it took so long to get used to all the voices. that's why I swore away dubs for good and probably why I am learning nip today.
/end blog

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292846
This is a reddit repost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292844
-----(>'(>O_O)>

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292845
I've been thinking about rewatching it raw until I get back to where I left off. Assuming I can find it soft subbed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292813
dragon quest 5

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292838
>ARIA The Animation

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292888
also check out these kawaii kids desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292888
>spaces
反吐が出る

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292898
>what are some great resources for a beginner

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292903
Shirley there are better resources without spaces. I'm just thinking of their future
I hate seeing people using auto parsers as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292922
maybe there is an option to remove them. it really doesn't help that much though

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292813
Pokemon

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292922
how about dew prism? The grammar is a little bit more challenging sometimes, but no spaces.

[Anonymous No.]

can you stop posting these shithole games thanks

[Anonymous No.]

Any recommendations for studying N2?

[Anonymous No.]

no

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292944
watch naruto on repeat tree fiddy times

[Anonymous No.]

please stop posting useful material for learning japanese. kthanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292941
>>19292946
Thats more like it. Perhaps without the 4:3 being stretched to 16:9 though

[Anonymous No.]

>rtk

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292403
tea kettleは

ポット

だよ

あたしのところで

ゆわかしっていったら

これのなまえだよ

せいしきには給湯器（きゅうとうき）

[Anonymous No.]

ポットはいやなら

これは

>やかん

なんでそういうのかわかんない

[Anonymous No.]

おゆをわかす缶だから

湯缶で

やかん？

かんって

a (tin) canの輸入ことばだったような

あたしはcanということばがないときから

にほんにやかんはあったとおもう

ちゅうごくけいゆで


ぐーぐるせんせいならおしえてくれるかもしれない

[Anonymous No.]

how to retain new words with goldfish brain?

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw i spend more time funposting on 4chins than studying Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

how does that make you feel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293103
らいくあろーりんぐすとーん

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293104
骨がない犬みたい？

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293032
>霊夢: 究極の力だって？使う度に間欠泉が湧くって、湯沸しの力かしら

この際は湯沸かしって何だろう? 幻想郷にはきゅうとうきなんかある筈ないじゃないか?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293133
げんそうきょうならあるんじゃない？

イワナかかなかった？

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a way to review all the seen cards in Anki? I have only gone through a few hundred cards, but I would like to just keep going through all of them without having to wait a day.

[Anonymous No.]

Is this a reddit repost? You can always create a filtered deck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293145
イワナの縁は分からない. 多分何かの要素はミスしている. 幻想居について, 日本語についてかは分からん.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293175
You guys sure love reddit, huh? Thanks though.

[Anonymous No.]

べつに

[Anonymous No.]

私はレディットが大いいい好き

[Anonymous No.]

レディットも大好き

[Anonymous No.]

レディットさんいればいい

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293252
Matt already arrived with a new video

[Anonymous No.]

who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293252
literally who

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293273
運転手さん

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293259
who

[Anonymous No.]

Did the manga library go down?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19292846
behold, this is an EOP

[Anonymous No.]

>manga
>library

maybe

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293301
the website did go offline but is still accessible

[Anonymous No.]

剃る
割る
削る

all about cutting, all have knife radical

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293363
wheres the fucking knife when you 刷る bruh
radicals are a crock of shit

[Anonymous No.]

Post catchy so- w/e i don't give a shit anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujVHGkYp7Xo

[Anonymous No.]

４ちゃんのたらこが

２ちゃん

またはじめるかもしれない

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293372
would listen but there are people in my house right now at this very moment who I can't let know about my Japanese hobbies

[Anonymous No.]

>haven't told any of my friends except the half japanese one that I'm studying Japanese
>told my parents 10 months in
>they told the whole family
>every time I have to go to some family thing my sub-80IQ weeaboo いとこs from the 田舎 keep pestering me with stupid bullshit like "haha can you say x line from cowboy bebop" and "write the kanji for high school"

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293401
If only you had done RTK you'd be able to do it.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any site out there that shows either live or recorded TV from Japan with fucking subtitles? I know these cunts have subtitled programming, I see it in all the TV guides and on twitter screencaps, but not a single place I've seen offers that shit. The best you can get is the odd chink drama rip with hardcoded subs in 3 different languages, but I want to watch variety shit.

[Anonymous No.]

w-who want to s-study with me?

[Anonymous No.]

>haven't told any of my friends except the one who happened to see a text book in my room
>just get laughed at when he asks if I'm "still" learning Japanese.

>If parents find out I am studying about a third world shithole I will lose all neetbux and be forced to work
>will lose all hope of ever knowing japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293421
silly anon, djt isn't for studying. It's for shitposting when you should be studying

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293421
がんばろ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293433
Whats the point of the glasses if they're below her eyes

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293437
To be cute ya dingus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293437
for reading when you look down.
for looking sophisticated.
probably one of those reasons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293420
https://www.kitsunekko.net/index.html
https://animelon.com/
subtitles for anime

実況プレイ channel that mostly plays games with text-boxes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF8iJkxRs0c&list=PLnL_YhHASca0qpXUly3Qrb_r15xhvW5ax

crunchyroll also has japanese subtitles for anime and dramas for subscribers I think.

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw finish reps 25 minutes before the deadline
>tfw studied for 450 consecutive days
>tfw still don't know japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>eat cake with chopsticks for years
>say gomennasai when finished
>still don't know japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>1250 posts
Fucking stop this shit and go learn 日本語.

[Anonymous No.]

we've gone to 1350 before though

[Anonymous No.]

how do you find time to read when you have exams for university and realistically you should study for them all day for a few days to maintain your flawless GPA

[Anonymous No.]

>college meme

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293520
no

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293531
By spreading it out over time instead of cramming, just like with learning nip

[Anonymous No.]

you know you've been in a thread too long when mods ban you and can't even give a reason. probably too much shit posting for a single day. I'll stay off for a couple days, just wanted to share the image

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293531
I'm sure you can skip a few days out of the thousands that you'll be spending on nippongo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293345
Do you have the rar? Cause the mega link got taken down and I deleted it like a fool

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293565
That gave me a giggle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293476
>crunchyroll also has japanese subtitles
what in the fuck gave you this idea
i highly doubt it for the same reason R1 dvds don't: that would cost them more money and almost none of their customer base gives a shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293565
Fake. A mod would get fired for something like that nowadays.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293571
Took me an hour but I found it
https://mega.nz/#F!b6BmySAb!KEH2hF3dYdVXEGowduoOow
I went through scat to get this

[Anonymous No.]

I'm starting to learn jp properly through djt guide, I'm not really bad at understanding basic/simple grammar, but Kanji is kind of hard. Started reading web novel from syosetsu with jisho help, and every few paragraphs I encountered same kanji but completely forgot how to read it. How do I get this fucking 22 years old brain cell to work properly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293629
repetition

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293629
do rtk
>22 years old brain
just shut up you whippersnapper

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293629
Alcohol and drug use

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293629
Mining is the quickest solution. Barring that, you have to do either actual kanji study (RTK) or simply read more so you get it by exposure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293632
>>19293637
>>19293649
Right now my anki deck is consisted of
RTK
KD+
KKLC
Also core 2k/6k vocab.

Another fear is I can read kanji but can't write it properly. Sometimes I fucked up the order when trying to visualize how to write them in my head.

>>19293640
I'd rather spent my money on manga/book instead of drugs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293565
nvm my ip must have changed because I'm on a phone. probably a ban for someone else. it's not the 24th. i was about to stay off too. but I really have been in this thread waayy to long today. so going to bed. 日本語で頑張って

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293629
Tell me about it. Kanji are a monumental task. I have a fairly good idea of what Kanji mean in English now (thanks to RTK), but I don't know their Japanese pronunciations / writings at all.

[Anonymous No.]

say no to rtk

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293660
I know of KKLC but what is KD+?

[Anonymous No.]

kanjidamage is the only path to fluency!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293660
why are you using three different kanji resources simultaneously and how much time every day does this take out of your reading

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293688
Kanji Damage +

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293698
Is using 3 different kanji decks actually useful? That seems really counter-intuitive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293696
I only started using it yesterday, so not much, most kanji appeared are the easy one and I know all of them. I usually read wn about two or three hours before sleep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293705
I'm trying to compare three of them first, probably will use the one that most effective on me, but I have yet to know which one it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293712
I think RTK is a trap personally, it feels good to learn the meaning of kanji so quickly but then you don't know how to use it so what's the point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293710
can't tell if troll or not, but this is the correct way to study nihongo. don't let anybody tell you which resource is right. try them all and figure it out for yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

Second to last bubble, what does 奴を have to do with remembering an easy method of winning?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293720
But what would matt do?

[Anonymous No.]

do I need anki to assist with my reading or can I just spend that time (in anki) focusing on even more reading?

I dislike anki but I don't dislike reading

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293765
>reading before you know japanese

enjoy your damaged brain cells

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293765
Fuck off. Anyone who has studied Japanese for a bit should be able to figure this out for themselves. Stop inviting useless shitposting to the thread you waste of space.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293424
>third world shithole
honestly there's like a 99% chance that japan is better than your country, especially if you're stupid enough to think it's third world by any possible meaning of the word

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293722
I think that's (楽な勝ち方って奴)を

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293770

anki doesn't teach you how to read tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293765
Hey friend. Anyone who has studied Japanese for a bit should be able to realize this is a difficult question. Continue encouraging meaningful conversation in this thread you fellow nihongo-learner.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293765
ask yourself if anyone has ever learned a language without anki

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293783
Sorry I worded it wrong, that's my question. What does 奴 have to do with anything? Is he talking about himself?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293797
答えはいいえだ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293801
奴 can be used for things too, not just people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293765
You should give up now, noone learns japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293814

I only want to unlearn English to be with my spiritual people

[Anonymous No.]

>there is a non-insignificant amount of people ITT who want to learn Japanese just to watch cartoons without subtitles

[Anonymous No.]

And there's the big boy club of people who want to learn Japanese just to watch porn. I'm it's leader btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293814
えいごむずかしい

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293839
汚い日本人

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293660
>Another fear is I can read kanji but can't write it properly.
Listen now son, you're supposed to be using pen and paper while doing RTK. Write every new character down 20+ times and once for every review.
There are no shortcuts to success.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293849
>writing kanji
>in 2018
Biggest fucking waste of time, bad meme. You can be perfectly fluent without knowing stroke order and other mundane shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293718
The chief point is that you don't confuse all the similar looking kanji with one different radical and turn it all into a jumbled mess in your head that'll make it more difficult for you to read and remember words.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293853
Nope. Nothing on this earth will help you remember them as well as writing them down repeatedly does.

[Anonymous No.]

ITT ワープロ馬鹿s

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293857
The idea currently it to use RTK to supplement core 2k, but there hasn't been a lot of overlap yet so it's not working out as planned. I still only know most kanji by the English keyword. Does it get better or should I be doing something else aswell?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293863
You'll get your overlap eventually as you progress with your vocab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293859
what about going through the strokes in your head and wasting less time

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293879
This is what any reasonably intelligent person does automatically. Archaic droning methods such as writing symbols hundreds of times on a paper are for barbarians.

[Anonymous No.]

CHOTTO MATTE....ANON TEBA

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293879
It takes two seconds to write down a character. Arguably less than going through the strokes in your head with adequate depth and clarity.
Being lazy doesn't get you anywhere with this language.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293892
write 憂鬱 in 4 seconds, i dare you

[Anonymous No.]

I spent all day playing baldr heart and only saved 8 words. I started learning 3 years ago. Validate my efforts pls

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293897
That'd probably take like 8 seconds, but it's still not a big deal. If you've actually learned to write, that is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293892
enjoy your placebo effect, i did it in my head and i don't fuck up

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293910
You've still failed to mention any benefit from slogging through hours of writing kanji manually besides "it helps brainlets remember what they are".

[Anonymous No.]

how about the ability to write kanji by hand you retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293917
>>19293920
>dumb people and bullshitters
How many weeks have you been at this? I remember talking like that too when I was just getting started years ago.
Mount Stupid is a funny place.

[Anonymous No.]

If you can't write kanji from memory from remembering what they look like while reading your IQ must be below 60. I hope some of these posts are trolling, if not I don't even understand how you have the intelligence to solve the captcha.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293946
>being this delusional that what you did was the most optimal approach

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293927
What, so you can mail your 日本人 girlfriend a nice letter?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293954
>what you did was the most optimal approach
No, it wasn't. Not at all. I wasted a lot of time doing this supremely inefficient "kanji through vocab" crap.
That approach is the biggest trap of them all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293977
>"kanji through vocab"
As opposed to what, learning vocab through kanji?

[Anonymous No.]

Japanese takes about three thousand hours to attain fluency. Between studying one hour a day for eight years (probably more due to constant decay of memory over that large span of time) or studying twelve hours a day for 250 days, is there any reason not to just go all in? Other than being an eternal dekinai of course. You're basically putting off fluency in Japanese for many years in return for learning even less efficiently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293985
baka i learned nihongo in 2 years

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293985
It takes 10000 hours of anime on top of that. I don't know what resources you're getting that information from but you're sadly mistaken.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293956
Yeah, I should really reply to her once of those days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293977
i would imagine it depends
i think core before reading is a trap
i don't think that skipping rtk is a trap, or at the least i don't think "getting it out of the way" before doing anything else is a good choice, but i did it so who knows
you're still wrong about the necessity of writing during review

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293988
proof?

[Anonymous No.]

Can we stop talking about how long it takes to learn nihongo and actually start learning?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293901
lets see ur sickest combo then

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that jamal can still post and not to remake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294015
わたしのはなす日本はすげ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294032
Sugoi he really knows nihonjin

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294032
あ....ああ.....あ.......す...げぇ....

[Anonymous No.]

日本語は一生の作業だ
何時が掛かるとかはバカの問答だ
俺様だって超知的なのにまだまだだぞい

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294055
delete this

[Anonymous No.]

まくらはまくらでも

なつ

ねむれないまくらは

なーんだ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294055
>>19294079
English please

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294055
waaa rever 3 nipongo san

[Anonymous No.]

Worked hard today as usual

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294086
not useful to do so many, if you are truly that efficient then ditch anki

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294086
You're doing too few, if you aren't good enough to do more then spend more time in anki until you can.

[Anonymous No.]

>日本語は一生の作業だ
No. Your japanese will at one point reach an interval beyond your death date. After this point you will never forget basic japanese even if you don't use again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294086
teach me your ways sempai

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294093
if i kill you tomorrow does that mean you know japanese........?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294093
Not sure if this is a meme but I learned hiragana / katakana like 5 fucking years ago, never touched it again until a few days ago, and still can read it fluently.

[Anonymous No.]

まくらはまくらでも

たべられるまくらは

なーんだ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294120
Okay can we stop now

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294137
すしません

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294120
ひざまくら

[Anonymous No.]

ちんぽはちんぽでも

しゃぶられないちんぽは

なーんだ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294153
さびちーんぽ

[Anonymous No.]

アノンちゃん、あいしてる

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294153
この中折れが！

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293424
>just get laughed at when he asks if I'm "still" learning Japanese.
I don't understand why people have these types of friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293863
>it to use RTK to supplement core 2k
That's retarded. Stick to one deck and read more.

[Anonymous No.]

I installed mactype on Windows to make Kanji in fonts look sick but now all the font is blurry and ugly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294260
I didn't know mcdonalds had their own fonts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19293920
>You've still failed to mention any benefit from slogging through hours of writing kanji manually besides fixing the biggest issue the majority of beginners have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294272
remembering what kanji "are" doesn't help beginners stop being ankidrones and read so i'm unsure what you're trying to say

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294279
It doesn't cure being an ankdrone. How many people bitch in these threads about being unable to keep kanji in their head? Particularly similar-looking kanji. RTK fixes that problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294290
that problem is only a problem if you're ankidroning, rtk fixes a problem with grinding core mindlessly, but that's still not learning japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294279
I don't know who these make believe people are that you are referring to, but I really doubt there is a significant amount of people who only use anki and don't read any material. Problem is you need at least a few months of vocab and grammar building before you can read anything worthwhile. Even shit like yotsuba will have you checking the dictionary on every panel. It's not fun. People should stick to Anki for awhile.

>>19294250
Yeah and which deck is this all-encompassing deck? It's certainly not one of the ones I am aware of. If you're trying to learn Kanji through core 2k then I don't know what to tell you other than "good luck".

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294326
>Even shit like yotsuba will have you checking the dictionary on every panel. It's not fun. People should stick to Anki for awhile.
what if I don't want to do either

[Anonymous No.]

dekinais hear me on this VN idea
>VN is 10 chapters long spanning over 4 years
>comes with a study guide and 10 anki decks
>VN is some generic gaijin deciding to go university in japan
>the gaijin knows basic japanese at chapter 1 and slowly gets better
>starting from 300-500 vocab list and very basic grammar point you land in japan with your japanese pen pal who acts as your translator
>as you progress through chapter the game drops translation and goes full on japanese
>each chapter adds 200-300 vocabs and a dozen or so grammar points that you have to study before the next chapter, game is supposed to be played over a year or so.
basically a book + anki + reading in 1 full package, someone kickstart this shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294326
>Even shit like yotsuba will have you checking the dictionary on every panel. It's not fun. People should stick to Anki for awhile.
what makes you think that sticking to anki for a while will make your first experience reading easier

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294355
Make the translator a female osananajimi that after getting enough affection with she teaches you lewd words during sex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294326
>If you're trying to learn Kanji through core 2k then I don't know what to tell you other than "good luck".
Are you implying it's especially difficult? You'd have to be a major brainlet to not be able to "learn" the kanji in core intuitively from the words.

[Anonymous No.]

アンキやりたくねぇえぇぇぇえええぇぇえええええ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294382
The way core 2k is organized is not particularly useful for learning kanji and their many variations. It really just boils down to basic memorization that can be achieved more efficiently with a dedicated kanji deck. It's also not helpful that the kanji is shown first without furigana. This means that to learn them you need to first check the answer, which is really counter-intuitive. It's not an efficient way to spend your time. Using RTK, KD+ or similar decks to supplement core 2k is the only reasonable method for Anki. You're really hurting your productivity trying to learn kanji from core 2k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294382
You talk big but you can't even speak Japanese yourself. Typical Mount Stupid tard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294433
If you have a tiny brain that may be true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294433
>It's also not helpful that the kanji is shown first without furigana. This means that to learn them you need to first check the answer, which is really counter-intuitive.
this is why you're not supposed to use premade vocab decks
>Using RTK, KD+ or similar decks to supplement core 2k is the only reasonable method for Anki.
no, it's the only reasonable method for grinding core, but grinding core isn't the only reasonable method with which to use anki

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294436
An intuitive thinker strives for efficiency. Sticking to one deck is not efficient, and therefor a sub-par method to learning the language. It's really just stubbornness at that point, there are better and more organized ways to do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294434
ネイティブ階段はもう登っただわ.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294443
The basis of any new language is vocab, you're not gonna go far in terms of reading and learning new concepts without a decent bank of vocab, which literally just boils down to grinding. Otherwise you're just jumping ahead and really hindering your productivity by constantly looking up definitions to words since you don't fucking know any of them. It's all about the order of operations.

[Anonymous No.]

＞　仕事がほぼ終わりました
> My work is almost finished
Can't it also mean "work was almost finished?"
Why or why not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294444
Learning kanji through vocabulary is more efficient than individual kanji study unless you have a very bad memory and or are very stupid. That's just how it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294444
you know what's efficient?
not spending more than 30 fucking minutes a day on anki

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294466
Job is the one being nearly done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294466
yes, but don't fret over shit like that too much

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294477
I never said you can't learn kanji through core2k vocab. I only said its inefficient, which it fucking is. Core2k is not meant to teach you kanji, it's meant to teach you vocabulary, which believe it or not are not synonymous. Kanji is multi-faceted and should be approached from a different angle when first learning new kanji.

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>>19294457
a bank of words isn't what you need, you need to learn the grammar from exposure
learning 500 nouns, which are the easiest words to pick up from context and exposure, does not fucking prepare you for reading, and you might as well get fucking used to using a dictionary quickly because you could finish core and still need to look shit up every page in your first manga
you'd have a better argument if you stripped all the nouns and adjectives from core and said to learn the 200 most common verbs while reading tae kim and then start reading

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>>19294495
Job is the one that was almost done.
I don't see where the "being" is.

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>>19294507
>learning 500 nouns, which are the easiest words to pick up from context and exposure, does not fucking prepare you for reading
Highly disagree. It prepares you a hell of a lot more than learning basic grammar and sentence structure without a decent vocab. Then you fall into the trap of wasting more than half your time trying to figure out definitions to everything in your reading material. That's why no program (that I'm aware of) teaches you grammar and sentence structure before actual vocab. That's just ass-backwards as fuck. It's much easier to know words and pick up on grammar as you go along.

[Anonymous No.]

I just finished hiragana and katakana. I saw some videos on youtube about this AJATT thing? Is it worth giving a shot? I think this RTK thing they talk about looks like a good idea.

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>>19294516
>It prepares you a hell of a lot more than learning basic grammar and sentence structure without a decent vocab.
It's pretty worthless, imho. You might as well just jump into actual material and start mining straight away. It won't really be reading at first, but rather mere word collection, yet it also gives you real world words instead of the business stuff and core tries to feed you.

[Anonymous No.]

みんな

げんき?

[Anonymous No.]

>no option to have only one side of a card zoomed
>have to either manually enter the code for front size on each card, increase card zoom and have oversized English answer sides, or have Kanji for ants

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294547
Imagine being this inept.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294547
have you considered learning basic css

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294537
ううん
この生活は嫌い
金と気と時間がありません
とても悲しい

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294560
No. I've already shitloads of hobbies that I have difficulty managing time between. Why would I take up a new one I have no real passion towards just to solve a minor problem?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294528
>>19294516
>That's why no program (that I'm aware of) teaches you grammar and sentence structure before actual vocab.
Tae Kim teaches you grammar and vocab simultaneously. Coincidentially, it's a much better learning resource than the numerous language learning textbooks I've looked into or school language classes. Funny how that works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294560
スマートフォンはできるけどパソコンはちょっと・・

きゃはっ

[Anonymous No.]

>css
>hobby

[Anonymous No.]

死ぬ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294547
That's not true. You can just edit the style as a whole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294580
>Tae Kim teaches you grammar and vocab simultaneously
I mean, kind of. Not really. You might as well be reading at that point because random sentences along with a word definition is not the best way to learn grammar. It can work, but I wouldn't consider it optimal. You also lose out on context that comes with reading, and pictures that comes with manga to help you figure things out.

[Anonymous No.]

fucking 1400 posts and nothing to show for it

[Anonymous No.]

i think everyone had a good time

thats all that matters

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294597
only your gaping asshole

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294575
i didn't say become a professional web developer, i said spend 20 minutes on your problem with a problem-solving attitude instead of whining that there is no weird-ass half-card-zoom feature

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294477
>Learning kanji through vocabulary is more efficient
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294604
>20 minutes
Is being a shithead your hobby then?

[Anonymous No.]

just stop
just
stop

[Anonymous No.]

how the fuck this thread is reaching 1400+ posts while we barely hit 1000 oftentimes

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294610
are you implying that 20 minutes is a long time or that 20 minutes is an underestimate of how deeply complicated the basics of css are

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294086
And I thought I was autistic for spending 2 hours a day on anki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294618
reddit pasta

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294623
i mean djt cant even use google to learn japanese how are they gonna use it to learn how to fuck with css

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294575
changing font-size isn't float science my dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294618
all me

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294618
im not a player i just post a lot

[Anonymous No.]

>131 posters

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck is this? I know buttfucking-nothing about Japanese and I can already tell this is all wrong. Gym = Jim? Today = ashita? This is the shit you guys told me to use?

[Anonymous No.]

that looks like a proper shit sandwich innit mate

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294655
It's "jimu", which is Jim. But the first ashita is clearly wrong, yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294623
You're understating the amount of time and effort it would take for someone with absolutely no knowledge of scripting to find the resources that present the information you need for that one specific thing, study enough to apply it for the solution and figure out how to use it with ankidroid. Then again considering this is the same general that goes on about how you can fully learn the core 2k in three weeks I'm convinced you either posted that in jest or have a very poor grasp of time thanks to being a NEET.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294655
That's a purposefully made mistake so you go into the edit section and fix it and bond with the card so it sticks better.

[Anonymous No.]

jamal's posting privileges are thus revoked

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294669
Don't enable normie retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294664
It should turn to Gym in the English example, "Jim is tomorrow" makes no sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294669
i'm sure there are tons of results for "css change font size" though and it's not like it has to be done cleanly
i think it's fair to assume you can google but you're correct that i don't remember what it was like to have no knowledge of scripting

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294674
who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294676
"there's an exam today"
"what about jim"
"jim('s exam) is tomorrow"

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294676
日本語は非常にハイコンテクストな言語ですね

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294676
where did you get this

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294691
i found it on reddit

[Anonymous No.]

1400 posts and change and people are still getting owned by tyler kim

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294701
the next generation will evolve to be smarter

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294618
I think unique IPs is higher than usual. I remember it being around 80 in the last thread before it archived.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294676
This is good bait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294673
I was gonna call bullshit at first but I'm actually finding errors on almost every other card. I thought Tae Kim was some renowned resource? I can't use a deck if there's so many errors because I'm not gonna catch them all. Is there an alternative that's not fucking trash?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294682
Googling an article on how to describe fonts with css syntax and reading through it 'till you have a good enough understanding of how to form said syntax yourself is at least 15 minutes assuming at least some base understanding of scripting. Only 5 minutes left to learn how to form said syntax to work within the context of the app and find the way to input it in a way that functions the way you want it (which, if you're going to be specific about card sides, is going to require additional syntax that will most likely be more complicated than "fontsize = x"), and I don't think a quarter of the time it took to learn something easier is going to cut it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294689
>"jim('s exam) is tomorrow"
If this is true then it's just bad English (as presented in the example).

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294724
skimming tae kim instead of memorizing it in anki, you wont remember shit until you read real japanese instead of grinding example sentences

[Anonymous No.]

Please stop making excuses as to why you aren't investing time into changing your fucking font size. Holy shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294730
>bad English
Did you actually read through the guide? Did you completely miss the part where he says he's going to present translations through Japanese logic to make you think in Japanese language patterns instead of teaching you English? Why are you using supplementary material without reading through primary material?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294733
I memorized hiragana / katakana in a day and am making good progress on the vocab. Enough to know that this Tae Kim deck is full of errors at the very least. I don't trust it to give me accurate information.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294730
it's not stated explicitly
you just need to get it from the context

that card is kinda shit, though

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294737
Please stop assuming every person on earth has identical skillsets and interests in computer nerd shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294758
Not him but you can literally become FLUENT in CSS in a few hours. I fucking learned html / CSS at the age of 8 while playing Neopets in 2000. 8 years old. There was no good resource for this at the time. This faggot has no excuse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294758
Who said they did? You want to be more comfortable while learning Japanese. Great. So then put in the effort like I and other people have. Or whine about how you don't want to I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

Fluency takes 4 years. Don't rush things. As long as you're always going forward, you'll get there eventually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294774
>Fluency takes 4 years
define fluency in terms of general ability, ie. the type of media they can comfortably consume

[Anonymous No.]

YOU DON'T NEED FUCKING CSS SKILLS TO EDIT FONT SIZE

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294783
>have to either manually enter the code for front size on each card
brb copy pasting syntax into every one of my 10k cards

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294730
EOPs learning a second language, everyone

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294783
And this takes literally like 2 minutes of googling "how to edit anki card", observing the number next to the words "font size", and changing it. Wow. Such deep scripting skills required.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294783
That's way too big, you should stick to a size close to what you would see in the wild.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294794
I'll show you something big

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294749
tae kim isn't a deck, you're using a deck that is based on tae kim that was transcribed by someone incompetent
i searched for the example sentence and it's from the spanish translation of tae kim by the way, here's what's in the english version of the grammar guide:

アリス：今日は試験だ。
Alice: Today is exam.
ボブ：ジョンは？
Bob: What about John?
アリス：ジョンは明日。
Alice: John is tomorrow. (As for John, the exam is tomorrow.)

stop using a deck for grammar, skim tae kim (grammar guide, not complete guide), and then read and look shit up when you don't know or remember what it is

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294789
That literally does it for every single card that's of the same type in one go, even if you have a million of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294789
it's the card template you fuck, there is no custom css per card, editing every single card individually is not something you do unless you stick to your original method of changing the font size in the field of every note
>core10k

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294799
My main problem was not the shoddy english but the omission of certain things (on the "na" slide they forgot to put "na"), and simply incorrect terms. If this is what I'm getting in just a few slides, what are the later ones gonna be like?

I'll concede that I didn't read the book, because I wasn't aware of the separate link. Hopefully the book is less error-filled.

[Anonymous No.]

did some anon just call CSS a "skillset"? nani the fuck mate

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294789
I understand you're baiting in order to get answers to your questions, but you genuinely are a stupid person for having to ask these questions in the first place, and you're not going to be able to learn Japanese. I take pleasure in knowing that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294823
>you're genuinely a stupid person for not investing time into comp sci disciplines
You're genuinely a faggot and I take great pleasure in knowing you'll be a sad incel for the rest of your life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294814
decks are unofficial and grammar decks are rarely used by competent people so you should not get your hopes up to find one that was created by someone who didn't fuck it up

[Anonymous No.]

rate my autism

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294814
Just use the DoJG deck. It's not shit like that one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294828
this isn't comp sci, it is comp literacy, i know dozens of people who know essentially zero comp sci and can handle this task because they are literate enough to google how to accomplish shit that they want to do

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294830
I didn't plan on using it for more than a week at most, but I don't think I will use it at all now. Really my only hang-up were the verbs that did not share a rule in terms of their suffix ("add on" hiragana to change form), it seems like there's a lot of memorization there and it will continue to be a roadblock until I just grind that out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294833
that script can be accomplished much more cleanly by reading the anki guide's section on optional fields

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294779

Being able to hold a conversation without awkward pauses. Being able to watch the news and most shows at 90% or higher understanding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294774
fluency in nihongo takes 10 years minimum unless youre growing up there as a child

>>19294779
youre able to walk into the most ultra right gomer hangout in 妙高市 get that stink eye from everyone and instantly win the entire place over with your nihongo ability

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294833
満点

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294850
>>19294779
Fluency is a fucking retarded term only used by newbies. Fluency is completely contextual. If you were to go to the ER, would you know what the fuck the surgeons are talking about? You aren't even fluent in your own language more often than not. Being able to talk to some random nip on the street about mundane things is not a feat, that is very simple. Learning how to talk to a Japanese programmer would be fucking hard. "Fluency" means nothing and I wish people would stop saying that.

[Anonymous No.]

Actually fluency in Japanese takes infinity since it's impossible to learn Japanese. It's been proved by scientists.

[Anonymous No.]

I know assembly but not CSS because CSS is for brainlets

[Anonymous No.]

if i can read eroge without dictionary do i know japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294862
How would it be hard to talk to a スパーハカ if they use mainly terms originating from english to talk about computers

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294862
>You aren't even fluent in your own language more often than not.
Then you're using a definition of fluency that most other people don't.

[Anonymous No.]

i know python but not assembly because assembly is actually for "brainlets"

[Anonymous No.]

If you can comfortably read and watch a wide variety of content and converse with native Japanese people on a wide variety of topics then you are fluent.

[Anonymous No.]

I know C++ but not python nor assembly because both are for code monkeys and newbs

[Anonymous No.]

ill give you the real definition of fluent if the thread hits 1500

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294862
An adult should have a reasonable amount of knowledge in every field that touches their lives somehow, so yes, you should at least roughly know what the surgeons are going on about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294848
portability over anything my dude

[Anonymous No.]

I'm fluent in Japanese (actually fluent). Ask me anything.

[Anonymous No.]

why havent you learned japanese yet

[Anonymous No.]

Because it's impossible.

[Anonymous No.]

i guess we're all fluent in here then
this thread goin out with a bang boys

[Anonymous No.]

hey guys finished my 25 new RTK cards for today.

[Anonymous No.]

people who don't speak at least three languages should be gassed

[Anonymous No.]

>>19291474
>むっつりすけべ
Why didn't she say it straight though?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm gonna go bump the threads in the bottom of /jp/ so this one dies faster

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294903
does english(uk) and english(us) count

[Anonymous No.]

when reading, do you I need to literally understand everything and why they used every grammar point? or just understanding whats going on is enough?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294905
hard to speak with a dick in your mouth

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294906
if you do that youre never gonna find out what being fluent actually means from me

>>19294909
yes and yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294909
Your input only needs to be comprehensible

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294887
But would you be able to talk to a surgeon (or someone outside of your expertise) fluently using their terms? No. So your definition of fluency in Japanese would be talking to a random person on the street about everyday common knowledge subjects, aka shit you learn pretty early on. The hard part is branching out, and its impossible to branch out in all directions. So then what does fluency mean? Fluent in the subject that interests you? What is that subject?

The term is retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294909
understanding enough to have a gist of what's going on. there's gonna be shit you won't be able to understand in the beginning which is fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294907
you think this is clever but dialects aren't languages so it's not

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294907

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294909
if u readin that good shit then why you dont wanna get what they sayin whats the point then?
if its that whack shit then hop outtie

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294925
i dont think this is clever i just wanted to know if i should be gassed in earnest

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294928
you should be gassed nonetheless

[Anonymous No.]

look you cant just dive in to css right away you have to do things properly.
first read sicp and review all high school math up to functions.
then learn calculus i and ii and linear algebra i, do lots of matrix exercises to make sure. also solve the sicp exercises.
then read books on architecture. keep practicing scheme. learn assembly and then c.
learn haskell by the time you get to topology.
after 4 to 8 years of intense studies youll have the basics you need to learn learn css and fix anki.

[Anonymous No.]

1500 posts and nothing to show for it

[Anonymous No.]

1501

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294925
but we call chinese languages dialects

[Anonymous No.]

****ok as promised****

fluency means that in nihongo you can be yourself

[Anonymous No.]

Next OP better be piggies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294937
>>19294938
Both wrong. Also writing on 4chan isn't posting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294939
they aren't languages dmbfgt

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294887
>An adult should have a reasonable amount of knowledge in every field that touches their lives somehow
That's cool bro, mind running a quick diagnostic of my hybrid? There's something wrong with my gas intake and it forces me to switch to diesel sometimes. I'm an infant, you see. But surely for a proper adult such as yourself, fixing this should be absolutely no problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294949
do you think this because they're called dialects

[Anonymous No.]

japanese is just a dialect of chinese so its not a real language

[Anonymous No.]

Why so many people started learning Japanese lately? shitposting is off the charts.

[Anonymous No.]

mostly because https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwx75XmF_Cg

[Anonymous No.]

It's the summer friends

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294960
it's summer

[Anonymous No.]

Congratulations DJT, you've won the "Worst Thread of the Day" award!
Do you have anything to say on this auspicious occasion?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294955
no I think it because they're all just slight modifications in pronunciation and slang of the same main language

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294973
どうも

まあわたしはゲイ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294953
>he doesn't even know how cars work
lmfao
i bet you can't even drive manual

[Anonymous No.]

nani can't we all just get along

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294973
This thread is 2 days old

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294973
Yes thank you I'm very honoured and fuck her right in the pussy

[Anonymous No.]

guys every time i shift gears my transmission breaks help i cant even get out of my driveway

[Anonymous No.]

allah will wipe the japanese off your skull if you don't praise jamal

[Anonymous No.]

djt is poppin

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294983
ha! 囈

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294979
I can drive manual. Can you fix my fuel system or are you breaking global rule #2 by your own standards of "adulthood"?

[Anonymous No.]

you're thus invited to fuck my sister

[Anonymous No.]

you may praise a jamal

this is an epic reference so +100 additional win to anyone who gets it

[Anonymous No.]

DJTはどんなシットポスティングが好きですか

[Anonymous No.]

praise the son

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294935
>and review all high school math up to functions.
>then learn calculus i and ii and linear algebra i, do lots of matrix exercises to make sure
I should be doing this instead of learning Japanese but it seems so difficult and boring compared to Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

Whenever I type with the Japanese keyboard, the "n" key just hangs on "n" without going to ん. Does anyone know why that is? Everything else works fine but the fucking N and it's annoying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294994
i'm not fixing shit for you, cunt face

[Anonymous No.]

reminder that you should all be passive listening to anime 22 hours a day, as recommended by native-level L2 Japanese speaker Khatzumoto

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294960
Probably MattvsJapan's increased popularity. These people will all disappear eventually. I can tell because they're not taking the slow but methodical path of RTK.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19295010
Double n for ん

[Anonymous No.]

>>19295013
>calls himself an adult
>can't even perform basic car maintenance
lmaoing at your life

[Anonymous No.]

ok the additional win is off the table its from this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6p8m6wy_7M

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294999
どんなシットポスティングでも好きだ僕は差別なんてしない
>>19295010
Have you tried using your 頭脳

[Anonymous No.]

>>19295023
ariga thanks gozai much, senpai

[Anonymous No.]

>>19295018
Lmao nobody fucking gives a shit about matt he has like 5000 subs on youtube you cunt

[Anonymous No.]

>>19295023
thanks んigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>19294986
hold down the clutch

[Anonymous No.]

>>19295030
next time google it dipshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>19295036
but then the car stops going >_<

[Anonymous No.]

>>19295010
>>19295023
i use n' because i find hitting two different keys to be more quick and comfortable than hitting the same key twice, and it seems that no one ever mentions this option. unsure if it's specific to microsoft ime, at least in default config.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5bxQahQ-E4
You're never going to learn Japanese if you don't have the discipline.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19295035
you think i didnt see that youre fuckin dead mate

[Anonymous No.]

>>19295046
sumimasorry

[Anonymous No.]

>>19295045
I discipline your mom everyday with my でかいおちんぽ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19295045
もう我慢できない
諦めたい

[Anonymous No.]

You're never going to learn Japanese because it is impossible.

[Anonymous No.]

only if you're a moron

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>19295064
My name is Simon though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19295067
Nobody asked for your name, nerd.

[Anonymous No.]

fuck this
seriously

[Anonymous No.]

if we make it to 1600 ill show you my real 力

[Anonymous No.]

>>19295071
Do I have to put a condom first or do you like it raw

[Anonymous No.]

>>19295070
it's a japanese pop culture reference you dip

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Do you guys have Discord server D:

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>>19295077
Yeah I don't watch nerd anime so I wouldn't know

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i was on a djt discord for a hot minute and that shit reeked to high heaven

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>>19295073
you...
fuck your chikara

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>>19295071
djt is always best when it evolves to /b/ lite

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this general is ASS
that's あｓｓ in 日本人

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>>19295078
yes but mods banned it

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>>19295067
What happened to simon? Haven't seen any posts of him after filtering 9 difference names.

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1570 posts of pure embarrassment

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>>19295082
japan is anime you baka what are you doing on japan thread desu -_-

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1571 posts of pure xtc

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I would laugh if it weren't so sad.

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>>19295099
how do I convert these posts into THC?

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>>19295104
roll them up and pack em tight

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THIS is where the real learning begins.

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We would be back to getting bumped if all the shitposting was deleted

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i like it this way

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(･ิω･ิ)

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>>19295119
Let's do it.

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just business as usual at the djt kickin it with the boys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5Gcexrwirk

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>>19295033
5k isn't a lot but that more than explains the increased activity in threads like this. Everyone cares about Matt dude.

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What is the font used in doujin and cg collections?

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>>19295132
increase in rtk posting too

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>>19295132
time to settle this once and for all boys

https://www.strawpoll.me/15964202

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>>19295132
>Everyone cares about Matt
Matt? Matt who? Matt Hardy? Is he still in the WWE? Is he still even alive?

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What are some good anime to make cards with? I've never watched SoL but I'm guessing that'd be best to learn from in the beginning. I was thinking about watching that Haruhi show since that was popular on /a/ years ago.

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Pls tell me where I can discord server invite

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>>19295149
fuck off

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>>19295142
so the japanese ask "do you know X" by asking "is X in one's mind?" language differences are fascinating!

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>>19295149
here
>>>/out/

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>>19295142
sorry cant read that im still on rtk

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>>19295148
Darling in the Franxx

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>>19295148
Boku no Little Hero Academia

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tae kim

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>>19295148
what about のんのんびより or K-on.

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>>19295148
play a vee en instead retard

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>>19295158
Whoops sorry I mistyped
*Boku no Pico

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djt was a mistake

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>>19295166
K-On sure. NNB is soulless cynical trash.

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1600 posts in my thread, what a great honor.

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1600th for RTK is the way.

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>>19295148
HARUHI ISNT EVEN SOL YOU FUCKING RETARD ITS SCIENCE FICTION KILL YOURSELF
YOU PROBABLY ARE A NEWFAG WHO HASNT WATCHED EVEN 50 ANIME WITH TERRIBLE TASTE SO WOULDNT BE ABLE TO ENJOY IT ANYWAY SO EAT SHIT FAGGOT

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are you okay

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>>19295183
Is it actually science fiction? because I've seen it referred to as SoL for years. Or at least it has extensive SoL elements.

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Haruhi is literally in the core100 anime list. fuck off

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haruhi was yalls first anime

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>>19295148
The only answer is Yojouhan Shinw Taikei a.k.a Tatami Galaxy. Watch it without subs of course.

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>>19294874
t. I've never seen nip comments in source

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>>19295195
it's not science fiction. It's 100% SOL

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IF YOU DONT LIKE HARUHI YOU SHOULDNT POST ON DJT ONLY PEOPLE WITH GOOD TASTE CAN POST HERE ALSO NAGATO IS THE BEST GIRL

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rtk and sentence cards are for wimpy little babies
truth

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>>19295210
i only like endless 8

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make sure to turn on english subs at the end of the movie otherwise you might not get it

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AYY

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I dropped Haruhi during the third episode of endless eight

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>>19295207

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>>19295210
>you have to like Haruhi to post in DJT
>you must have good taste to post in DJT
oxymoron

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>>19295221
HOL UP

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>>19295221
wh*toids btfo

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>>19295221
白目を剥く Still get triggered

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>>19295221
this is acceptable

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>>19295224
is she okay

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>>19295226
>there's a silent alien that looks like a human and does nothing for almost the entire thing so it's sci-fi
community tags are a joke because anime fans are lowest forms of life

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>>19295242
So you haven't watched the thing and think you can opine on it, got it

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>>19295221
Based.

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>>19295221
>phoneposter
neck yourself desu fampai

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>>19295250
I dont understand why you're so bothered by this truth, scifi is some of the shittiest literature in human history anyway.

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>have to look at slides 5-10+ times to even remember them a minute later
Be honest with me, am I retarded?

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http://www.kanjidamage.com/kanji/31-white-%E7%99%BD
Looks like he toned it down a bit.

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>>19295267
seething

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>>19295274
So you don't read either and you're trying to move the goalpost, got it
Keep talking I wanna see how dumber you can get lol

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>>19295156
>da
stop talking like an anime character

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>>19295281
Well, that sucks. The previous one was a lot more effective as a mnemonic.

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>>19295280
If you're retarded, I'm retarded too. We probably aren't the only ones either

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>>19295288
I've watched Haruhi and read plenty of scifi. You should really consider just how pathetic getting this passive agressively defensive looks. What do you consider to be high art scifi literature?

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>>19295280
nah that's how anki goes
it's better when you're reviewing shit that you had more exposure to before you added it to anki

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Like my cards

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I'm not retarted

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>>19295301
Now you're asking for recommendations, well at least you're learning.

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youre only retartted if you do retartta

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>>19295250
to be honest there's not a lot of sci in this fi
maybe it's more scifa

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legendary bread is almost korosu

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this thread will fucking not reach 1700, i promise you that

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noo she knee taknai!

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>>19295332
I'll do my reps if it reaches 2k

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>>19295337
its over, jim-kun

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>>19295317
>can't actually name anything of meritLet me guess. Dune, Brave New World, the list goes on...
Hope one day you actually discover classical literature so you can finally stop reading children's books and toilet water tank decorations.

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>>19295328
>da
stop talking like an anime character

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>>19295281
why the fuck would anyone do kanjidamage

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>>19295305
>centering a list
hmm are you sure about that?

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>>19295359
for the memes

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>>19295359
so I can do rtk without having to tell people I did rtk

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can someone explain to a newfag why people hate RTK so much

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>>19295377
just scroll up a bit

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>>19295373
that's what it seems like. which is strange. just do RTK. why is it so hard for people.

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mfw my cards are just

漢字

ひらがな
(1 gap)
english explanation

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>>19295381
I see a lot of memeing about it but no actual reasons, unless you mean scroll up a lot

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>>19295388
look at the /a/ threads if you wanna see long arguments about it

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>>19295388
you're obviously reading these posts with a preconceived idea that everyone only talks bad about rtk if they are memeing. these aren't memes. they are warnings from people who chose the wrong path. learn from their mistake

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Is this a new record? Don't we usually barely scratch 1k? Nani the fuck happened here?

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If you use mnemonics you are a fucking child.

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>>19295408
this is correct

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>>19295413
truth

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>>19295408
I am willing to hear the arguments as to why its not good but I am not seeing much besides memes such as >>19295413

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>>19295412
actual footage of this iteration of djt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axKpUjUaJ2k

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>>19295412
Shitposting
Lots of it

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>>19295412
I've seen 1350 once or twice but going past 1500 is definitely an anomaly, probably because it's summer

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didn't moot confirm years ago that traffic on 4chan is lowest in summer and highest around the beginning of a new years? so why do people still do the summer meme thing.

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whos moot

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who is moot?

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>>19295440
who

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↑ ayyy ↑

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あいつまだいるの？

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>>19295440
People who usually post here get tired of the summerfags and visit more rarely while their numbers are replaced by the summerfags

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hey all you kids following what the pee man tells you
get the fuck outta here how about that

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No wonder why nips can't into english, their language is fucked up

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>>19295456
source: 私のお尻

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someone needs to make a new thread, I have been wanting to post a shitty meme image for the past like 600 posts but I thought the thread would die by now.

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>>19295459
you should eat your peemans to grow up big and strong mate : )

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stop posting dekinai images

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>>19295466
Yamete. Once we get a new thread it's time for the shitposting to end.

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>>19295466
You do it, just make sure it has pigs.

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>>19295462
Have you ever considered that maybe english is the fucked up language here

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>>19295482
im making the new thread and it absolutely will not have pigs

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>>19295421
i'll help you out
it takes too much time for the benefit
it is used to encourage studying for months without starting on actually consuming japanese
if you do it while consuming japanese it will take even longer to get through and stop wasting hours on which is also bad
many kanji are not capable of being summarized by a keyword
the idea of "getting kanji out of the way" is a lie spread by dekinai who think that only 2000 or 3000 kanji are used in japanese
there is nothing wrong with practicing recalling kanji if that is something you want to do, but do it when you have already associated them with a japanese word instead of forcing an association that need not exist

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I'll make the thread. Don't worry I'm the nihongo master so naturally my thread will be void of shitposting.

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>last thread on page 10
Inb4 someone makes a new djt thread to kill this one off

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https://imgflip.com/i/2cuteg

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>>19295489
Then it better be toddlers shaking their rattles and throwing tantrums or something similar.

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at least we're still better than idolfags

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>>19295421
see >>19284681

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dont worry itll be the 新スレ

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>>19295497
honestly tempted to count my posts

t. OP

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i'll post mikulog in new thread

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>>19295491
Stop posting memes and give me actually logical reasons with actual evidence and sources to back up your claims.

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>>19295491
>there is nothing wrong with practicing recalling kanji if that is something you want to do, but do it when you have already associated them with a japanese word instead of forcing an association that need not exist
The problem is for a beginner (like me, only a few months in), simply grinding out kanji is a nearly insurmountable task. There are too many factors, and it seems like you need to approach them one piece at a time. Learning a kanji, the shape, the meaning, then the different forms, etc all at once? How else would you go about it rather than learning the English definition first?

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糞スレまだ

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>>19295491
this guy >>19295515 aint me btw

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>>19295515
nothing i said is a meme but enjoy your denial
consider that there are no logical reasons with actual evidence and sources to back up the idea that rtk is valuable

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>>19295518
>here is why rtk will never work
> a beginner like me

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>>19295522
まだ what? Finish your sentence

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>>19295538
KD+ and KKLC are shit though.

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>>19295558
that doesn't have anything to do with what I just said

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>>19295305
sauce or ur gay

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>>19295305
i bet youre really gonna learn nihongo like that lmFAo

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>>19295305
>dekinai.png

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>>19295551
お前まだ生きてるの
早く死んでくれよ

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>>19295518
it gets easier the more words you have become familiar with. if kanji all look the same to you then you can learn a couple hundred or learn the radicals or something, i'm only against the idea of grinding 2000+.
also read japanese and focus on learning words that you've run into 3+ times. it's far easier to recognize a word you've seen in a few places than one that you've never seen outside of anki.

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shut up you fuckin suck

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>>19295599
One day I'll be able to understand this and respond.

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おっぱいwwww

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>>19295629
>wwww
never understood it when nips type this

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>>19295607
I just haven't found a great way to commit them to memory yet. Core2k is shit for learning kanji. It's great for vocab but you're not gonna learn new kanji with it without a lot of struggle just due to how core2k is formatted.

KD+ is a bad meme. I haven't tried a lot of KKLC admittedly so maybe that has a better system.

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おっぱいなめたい

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>>19295650
hahahaha

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>>19295650
gaijin monkeys need not understand

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TO THE WINDOW

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>>19295650
You could google it but it's short for 笑う

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うんち！！！！

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>笑う
>w
?

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>>19295683
i can only imagine the do-jins

truly disgusting but very suitable for the current state of anime

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>>19295683
explain this shit i know the doggystyle girls are controllers for mechas but what the fuck is that doodoo in onepiece shit wtf

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>>19295683
>somebody spent a significant portion of their day, probably more, to make this

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>>19295686
now the real braintwister is 草 but you could google it