Mahjong thread

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Summer Suffer edition

https://pastebin.com/ML5gMMY9

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been playing pic related with some friends lately just for shits and giggles. pretty fun

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>>19177518
How's that rank climb going lads
You making it?

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Gentlemen: It's time we stop fucking around.

How do we beat Mahjong?

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>>19178602
7:8:4:4. Still a 2 dan scrub, but I broke my losing streak. 200 pt to 3 dan, and 80 R to 1800. Tokujou is far away.

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>>19179310
We quit

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>>19179310
The only way to beat Mahjong is to become an old, wise Japanese man.

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>>19179711
You have been defeated by the mahjong.

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>>19180457
>aah, that was a good ron. Looks like that cheeky brat couldn't win against the Mahjong
>yeah, nobody can beat the mahjong
>not the Mahjong
>can't beat the Mahjong, man
>nope

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Can I press rape charges?

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>>19182958
Not the first time mahjong is biblical as fuck
>For whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them.

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>>19178602
Already lost 1000 pts and 120 rating after gaining 2000 pts and 225 rating.

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>its a pairs round and I noticed just in time
>it's a pairs round and I noticed too fucking late and am fighting my own hand all damn round long

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None of you seriously believe in the occult right?

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>>19178602
After 11 or 12 games or so, yet to win a 1st all month. Feels bad.

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>>19183932
I ironically practice occult science.

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>>19179310
Get the google AI team working on it. Put their AI in a robot. Give the robot a pointy nose.

Mahjong solved. Bonus points if you teach the robot how to cheat.

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>>19184596
>That spoiler

What are you talking about? Robots have been fully capable of teaching themselves how to lie for 10 years now.

https://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2009-08/evolving-robots-learn-lie-hide-resources-each-other

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Who remembers this?

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Are there any waits or hands you find particularly beautiful, or even sexy?

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>>19192898
I've always had a fondness for Ryuu Isou.

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>>19178602
Still stuck at 3dan.

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>>19192898
Junchan (bonus points for junchan sanshoku)
Ittsu
Honrouchiitoi
Ryanpeikou

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>>19192898
Either sanshoku iipei or junchan sanshoku.

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>>19192898
Daichisei, aka big seven stars
(chitoi hand made of all seven honor tles)
in some rulesets it's considered a double yakuman

it's my white whale

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>call riichi, but on a ryanmen wait including the Dora
well, no one is going to be dumb enough to deal in, but at least I have a half decent chance of a tsumo. If that doesn't work I can at least hope the others fold
>1st place deals the opposite suji from the Dora

oh well. guess we all learn that lesson someday. I'm glad to take 1st

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Dropped two 5m, got the third - red one, acquired tanki furiten hell wait, didn't change it, riichi'd, got tsumo, and also three uradoras for a baiman. Enriching your ippan experience since april!

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>>19196823
>Dropped two 5m
Why the fuck would you even do that?

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I get how you play but I still have no idea what I am doing.

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>>19203550
Are you asking how to get good? You can start here and go on to read the rest of the series. The two main things you want to learn are, broadly speaking, tile efficiency (how to build a hand) and defence (how to not deal into others).

https://mahjong.guide/2017/12/29/mahjong-fundamentals-1-introduction/

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>>19203550
Play eight thousand games to get good

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>>19203550
Just playing is about right. You will feel like you're not making progress at first but little by little you'll start getting the hang of it.
As a bonus, It helps if you have a friend who is into it. Mine likes those kinds of games so it wasn't too hard to get him to try it out. It's interesting alternating between one guy playing and another one watching while discussing it for extra concentration and it helps with hammering down bonuses/hands you don't remember by heart yet.

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someone wanna play?

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Is there a way to play with a friend or two against each other(i'm sure some weird 2player variant exists) or bots or something?

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>>19207819
If you and/or your friend have a switch, there's a "Japanese Mah-jongg" game on the eshop that's $5 that specifically has a two player mode.

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>>19213607
YOU CUNT, I'M TRYING TO SLEEP HERE

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Anyone have any experience with buying a Japanese standard size set in Europe? I'd rather not have to import directly from the US or Japan if I can avoid it but I haven't found anything like the YMI set on European sites.

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>>19214399
If there is no local importer or a chinatown nearby, I don't think that's going to work.

Ask your local clubs if any. You could also ask a carpenter to make one, but it wouldn't be japanese.

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>>19214483
I hadn't even thought about Chinatown, I guess I'll have a look. I'd be surprised if there were any riichi sets specifically though.

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>>19214536
The only problem buying from yahoo.jp besides all the runes - see if the proxy you pick uses forced ems (expensive), or there's still a SAL option. Nowadays with all the e-shopping SAL works perfectly fine but some sellers and forwarders are still afraid of buyers' scams. Proxy means they will add a small fee ~500 yen + the shipping to the set/mat initial worth, and + domestic shipping if it's not free, you'll see this on the page. Browsing yahoo auctions is really addictive.

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>>19214536
I have two sets. one is a standard riichi set I bought in Japan and another is a vintage Chinese set I got off of eBay.

you might find fun stuff on the aftermarket sites

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>have a cool 15k point lead in S3
>dealer wins an 18k hand, then busts 3rd and 4th out with a 24k hand
I guess second is fine too.

The guy made hon itsu, toi toi, plus dora and honors look easy to get.

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>reading some pushing/folding decision guides
>every single one of them assumes you're in the east round and no one else has made any melds
So what if you're in the south round (other than oorasu) and what if there are 2-3 other yakuhai/tanyao calls? How should they affect your decisions to riichi, meld or betaori?

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>>19219278
open hands can give you a clue on potential hand value. keep an eye out for Dora. if someone pursuing what you thing is an open tanyao with maybe onedora, pushing might be worth it since dealing in won't hit you too hard.

of course there's always exceptions, so keep all of the other information in mind

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>>19219278
Depends on your position and hand
If you've got a good lead in first then it can be smart to just fold whenever you see calls. You're in first after all. If they tsumo or have someone else deal in, then they likely won't get ahead of you. But dealing in directly will likely allow them to overtake you, or drag you down to someone elses level.
Basically, when you're in first place the value of winning relative to the punishment of dealing in decreases.
In these situations it can be smart to not riichi, and simply go damaten. If you're in first then anything that brings the game to a close sooner is a good thing. If a series of calls makes a hand look dangerous, you can simply abort since you aren't looked in by the riichi

If you're not in first, then it can be better to push against yakuhai/tanyao calls. The value of a cheap fast yakuhai tanyao hand is less than the value of a hand with riichi plus doras or yaku. Keep in mind too that if the other plays have made calls, they have less room to defend.

If you're in 4th place, then it's usually better to push. You need to get out of fourth before the game ends. All the other players can afford to go on the defensive, but you can not

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>>19219278
This topic is one of the things that is lacking in currently translated material. Basically you focus more on placement and less on expected value the later the game gets. You don't want to be third going into S4 (as 3rd won't be enough if 4th hits a hand in S4) and you really don't want to be in 4th. If you are in a good position you should generally try to move the rounds along because you want to isolate 4th place.

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>>19220024
The difficulty in providing push/fold material in English is that it's such a nuanced aspect of strategy, with a ton of different factors that all affect decisions in different ways. In order to produce accurate material you need to get very specific, and that makes it harder to draw out broad rules of thumb, so the only way to get good coverage might be to translate entire books.

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>>19220085
Isn't that what makes the game awesome? Simple pairi is easy to discern, but add round/turn, score, and conditions from other 3 players and it becomes one-in-a-million case. There's never enough nanikiru books in the world to cover all scenarios happen in the table, and you have to make that decision in just few seconds.

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Tenhou connection went crazy in East 1. Then Tenhou let me start a new game but wouldn't let me join the ongoing game.

Why you do this tenhou

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>>19223378
I think the 5th disconnect sends the players out. Dirty gaijin internets aren't wercome. It was torrents in my case, I was extra retarded.

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>>19223476
With net neutrality dead (for now), you have to watch out for that shit.

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>>19219278
Do you factor point differences and standings in these decisions? A lot of it stems from that.

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>>19224317
...I forgot to limit the network usage.

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http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2018061609gm-0089-0000-28b27181&tw=3

Rate my sick plays, especially that S3 round

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>>19225478
A-

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>>19223476
That explains it. Tenhou/3/ gave me a lot of short reconnects + disconnects.

I'll try a full tab refresh next time.

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>>19226000
Play real tiles instead.

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>>19225478
>>19225590
nah too generous, B-

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>>19225478
>S3 round
Kamicha dropping 4 pin there. What a fucking moron.

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>>19186413
I do, here's a replay
http://tenhou.net/3/?log=2013020807gm-0009-7447-8494ff98&tw=3&ts=2

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Fuck, every time I get close to ranking up to 4dan I overextend myself too hard and go on a losing streak

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Fuck akadora

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>Sitting in 2nd on S4
>Just have to play a worthless wind with 3 discards left
>Something just doesn't feel right
>Fuck it I'll break tenpai and probably take third
>Someone else plays it
>RON
4th place avoidance is not fun

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>>19179310
I think wearing pantsu increases difficulty.

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>>19239183
Fuck other people having akadora, I want them all for myself.

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>>19239183
With akadoras it's slightly easier to defend. But imagine 3 or 7 akadora. Now that shit is vile.

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What do?

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>>19244748
9man pair, then 8pin pair

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>>19244748
Drop the 5p and then go for chitoi

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>>19244748
Quit life

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>>19244875
>>19245162
>>19247200
welp

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>>19247264
That's what happens when you don't push. At least it wasn't the 6m. Glad to see 1s was safe though, I would have cut that the turn after 5p.

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>>19247264
Bad life choice

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>4th place thanks to never winning hands, one time I made stupid mistake but hand wasn't worth much anyways
>S4 dealer is 1st with 31000 points
>34455677m
>23456s, tenpai for 147s but I don't call riichi because hand could improve and also because I could extend the game and also because the hand isn't really worth enough to put me in a higher rank unless I hit the uradora
>3-4 rounds straight toimen discards my winning tiles until kamicha (dealer) draws his winning tile

Maybe I should stop pretending to be smart

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>>19244748
Your hand won't progress unless you deal the 1s and 5p.
Three 3s are in the pond.
2p in the pond so it can't be a 2,5 wait.
I would normally discard the 1s since 456 fit in more waits , best defense is an offense.
You have a possible yaku too so if you get into tenpai (for which you'll have to discard some other dangerous tiles though), you can win without riichi.
I also dislike discarding from pairs upwards in the first place. You hold 50% of that one tile in your hand so it's likely that the person is waiting for that

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>>19247291
>>19247547
>Discarding the dora tile after riichi
>Ever
Unless you see that shit come out from another player, you should never throw a tile that would give an extra han to your murderer.

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>>19247677
I don't really think of it that way. For me its more about if I'm gonna deal in, might as well be sooner rather than later. So if I've already decided to push a hand, I'll toss a risky tile before I even get to tenpai. That way I don't waste time and turns getting to tenpai before dealing in that last risky tile I've been holding on to.

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>>19247677
Last place dealer early riichi means the odds of them waiting for my dora is about the same or only slightly higher than any other tile.

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>>19244748
Start with 6s. 7s is unlikely to be matagi suji for 69s because it was discarded so early, and 36s is out. Next choice would be 4s, which is half suji plus one chance. The chance for ryanmen is the same between 4s and 1s, but 1s has the risk of a dora shanpon. 4s wouldn't be shanpon because that would mean he discarded 3s from 344s. 4s kanchan is also unlikely given that you can see three 3s and two 5s.

>>19245162
>>19247291
>>19247547
As a general rule you don't chase from iishanten, you don't chase with chiitoitsu, you don't chase with chiitoitsu iishanten, and you definitely don't chase with chiitoitsu iishanten if it means pushing at least two completely live tiles to get there, especially against a last place dealer riichi in S3.

>>19247718
If you're doing sakigiri and you're not at least upper tokujou then chances are you're doing it wrong and it's hurting you more than it helps.

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>>19247843
The whole point of switching to chiitoitsu is to cockblock other players.
It's what you go for when you don't want to discard the dora tile and don't have any other meld for it.
Even if going for chiitoitsu (which I didn't say), he could just discard 4s before discarding 1s

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>possible 678 sanshoku (67m, 778p, 678s) but I'm not doing fine because I get shit draws
>toimen chi'd one 6p early on
>when kamicha finally drops a 6p, toimen pons it away
>pon 7p and discard 8p
>single wait on 7m, one in pond rest was in the dead wall

You fuckers always say something like "learn to defense" but it feels like you're just making fun of me. Always when I start to defend properly, I end up 4th or lose my 1st place anyways.

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>>19247962
If you can safely mawashi to chiitoitsu or some other yaku then sure, it's an option to try and cut people off. If it's not safe to do so then you absolutely should not. Just fold instead.

>>19247974
Sounds like the bigger problem for you is building hands. Calling pon on 7p from 778p and then somehow ending up with a 7m tanki doesn't sound like a logically sound progression.

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>>19247985
>Calling pon on 7p from 778p and then somehow ending up with a 7m tanki doesn't sound like a logically sound progression.

I just drew crap all game long.
Not sure if it was the same round or another one where I just kept drawing honor tiles

I'm not saying it's always like this or that I don't discard stupid tiles sometimes but I fail to see what I'm supposed to do when my luck is bad

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>>19248028
Bad luck happens and it sucks, but that doesn't necessarily mean that you couldn't have done better. If something is truly bad luck then you just have to take it on the chin and move on, but if there's something you could improve on then regardless of the end result you should take it as a learning opportunity.

If in doubt then feel free to post replays.

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>>19248028
Sometimes feeding shimocha helps to sink someone else.

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>>19248054
the hardest lesson in mahjong is being able to distinguish what was shit luck and what was your fault. obviously if you push against a dealer riichi with dangerous tiles, it's obviously on you. If someone double riichi's during your dealer turn and tsumo's two turns later with a baiman, you're just the victim of circumstances. however, players sometimes feel like luck is the cause of their woes when an adjustment to their play style or greater focus on efficiency would have made a huge difference.

newer players (and let's be honest, experienced players too) tend to whitewash themselves of their mistakes by blaming their luck. this is a hurdle that must be overcome in order to grow as a mahjong player

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>>19248028
>but I fail to see what I'm supposed to do when my luck is bad
Watch the other players discarding and see if they just tsumogiri. Then fold. Because there is basically nothing you CAN do about luck. As much as people like to push efficiency and strategy and even call for mahjong to be a "mind sport(lol)", it's still a luck based gambling game. That's really all there is to it.

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>>19249438
You sound so goddamn bitter holy shit.

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>>19249438
So basically hoping someone else will fuck up worse than I get by never finishing hands and losing points to tsumos?

>>19248130
How the fuck do I feed shimocha?

>>19249406
Yeah, I'm not saying "fuck this shitty luck" when I deal a dangerous tile. If I deal one, I know it's risky and I don't blame the game/luck for it. Or when I notice that I made a stupid discard (or misclick)
I do blame bad luck on drawing like 10 honor tiles.

>>19248054
I was playing on my phone so I don't have specific replays but I'll keep it in my mind for the next time.

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>I have 0 points at the last round
> everyone else with 30000 points thinking I already lost
> south deals all dangerous tiles for me to pon
> deals in to my baiman hand and lose by 100

FeelsGoodMan

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>on a losing streak, another 4th place would demote me to 2dan
>got damaronned for dealer mangan and every riichi I tried was met with failure and ronned for 3900, so I'm at 10 000 4th place vs 1st place with 35 000 and 3rd at like 23 000
>south 3, now dealer: horrible hand, 4 or 5 shanten for pinfu only with pair of north winds and a few other pairs, thinking of toitoi to scrap a win and use the renchan
>guy deals the north wind, but I change my mind and don't pon it
>riichi or nothing.jpg
>draw last north, no pinfu but at least getting closer to tenpai, more good draws
>have a good feeling about this, barely manage to put together a riichi only shanpon wait on 4-8m
>draw and discard 5m, 3rd place falls for suji trap and deals in 8m
>3 uradora 8m, now third place with 23000
>flow is coming back.jpg
>next hand has 2 dora and 1 akadora
>early tenpai but discard 1 dora for that, good choice because I damaron 4th place again for 5800
>oh shit.jpg
>win again, then 1st place gets ronned by 4th, get 1st place
>south 4 is 4th's dealer turn, basically first one to win except him gets 1st place
>try to go fast but he riichis, barely manage to fold
>again
>again
>i'm tired
>finally get fast hand and finish the game with 3 calls open tanyao
Felt like a mahjong manga.

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>4th place by a good margin
>last round
>shitty riichi tanyao dora 1 hand
>shimocha makes closed kan twice over the course of a few turns and boosts my hand to dora 6
>but the tiles he kanned were both sides of my ryanmen wait
I'm never going to call riichi ever again.

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>>19244748
Absolutely no safe tiles whatsoever. Not even some suji tiles.
I'll just discard my 9m pair or 8p pair I guess.

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>>19249525
>How
Throw red fives and doras and middles at them in bulk once you see they are out of 1/9/honors to discard. Try to feed their one-suits. Sometimes it works. Better than 1k hand farting in abyss, and more fun. Not sure how live people would like such NoNameing though.

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>>19251103
>>but the tiles he kanned were both sides of my ryanmen wait
this is amazing

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>>19251103
>possible 1,4,7 wait, 1shanten
>people discarding 147 until only one of each is left

I think the only time I got oneshots was for tanki and ryanmen waits.
But one time I got a rinshan tsumo with a 1,4,7 wait.
I've been missing uradoras for like half a year by now, it's especially annoying when it's a hand with several triplets

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>>19248028
You can't stop yourself from getting bad luck but you can mitigate its effects
In mahjong you will always take a few fourths. But your goal isn't to win every single game, just to have a good average

[Anonymous No.]

Looks like even 10-dans fall for this shit.

[Anonymous No.]

what do you think you're doing, punk ?

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>>19254435
Is it even really worth trying to spot a kokushi musou given how rare it is?
For every one you avoid you'll probably pass up way more hands wouldn't you?

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>>19255185
Of course you shouldn't be on the lookout for kokushi but if you see doras being thrown and someone having discarded only middle tiles without calling then you might wanna fold after drawing a suspicious terminal to avoid getting chanta/junchan/kokushi

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>>19255185
>kokushi
>rare

Sauce: http://tenhou.net/sc/ykm.html

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>>19255923
>対戦数:399757
Rounding up, 1,000 out of 400,000 hanchan is 0.25%. If you assume an average of, let's say, eight rounds per hanchan, that goes down to about 0.03%. So yes, it's rare.

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>>19256011
Maybe not rare compared to other yakuman.

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>get dumpstered into 4th because of bullshit tsumos or 4th getting a fast but strong hand

Also pretty annoying when the faggots start playing worthless, fast hands only after someone else extended to the fifth renchan and got a +50k point lead.
Do people just stop trying to get to 1st when it's just a +12k lead?

This month is fucking weird.
20 2nd places, 10 4ths. I get a lot of pairs but my hands aren't progressing

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>>19263476
"Do people just stop trying to get to 1st when it's just a +12k lead?"

No.

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>>19256011
It's not rare enough. If you happen to notice someone going for it, then you avoid it because dealing into it is an instant 4th. It happens often enough to become a valid threat.

It's fucking obvious.

[Anonymous No.]

>close game
>dealer
>riichi ippatsu tsumo pinfu dora uradora : haneman
>twice
>fucking twice in a row
>now 70 000 vs 10 000 for everyone else
>brain turn off
>new dealer riichis at the end of the game
>draw dora 1 man, didn't even notice it was dora because I was doing something else, but see dealer discarded 4 man so I discard it without thinking
>deal into shanpon wait on the dora
>riichi ippatsu dora 3 akadora 2 uradora 1: dealer baiman
>deal into 4200 points hand after
>then deal into dora 3 mangan hand

>still end up first with 7000 points more than 2nd place

TAKE THAT BABY

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>>19263476
>get dumpstered into 4th because of bullshit tsumos or 4th getting a fast but strong hand
I'm on a losing streak of 4th place for 7 consecutive games because of this kind of bullshit.

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>>19265674
>tfw too good at mahjong to play defensively

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>>19265931
same. the techniques and methodologies that got me as far as I've come have been backfireing left and right...

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let me tell you about true luck:

>in 4th place, s2, whole game has been nothing but bullshit
>disconnect
>freakout and try to reconnect
>game apparently cancelled out. no negative effects.
>next game is equal bullshit, end up 4th through a combination of bad choices and shit luck
>game disconnects with no negative consequences AGAIN

dodged quite a bullet there

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The guide at the top is a little dated. Is there a good Mahjong rules resource? I need to teach some new players this weekend, and I want to give them a link or guide if they're interested, but I don't wanna hand them EMA/WRC rules just because they're more tournament based and cut out a bunch of rules I intend to play them with.

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>>19267525
https://mahjong.guide/a-beginners-guide-to-riichi-mahjong/

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Man, this is fucking bullshit.
It's been forever since I hit the uradora

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>>19269498
>riiching that hand
Why? It's baiman already. You had to rely on uradora to hope for it to grow into a sanbaiman with bad odds of 1/5.

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>>19269559
Because I needed to break the curse of getting placed 2nd by a few points thanks to bullshit.
Also it was the fourth turn and I didn't want some faggot finish the hand with tanyao or yakuhai.
I only needed one uradora and if I was real lucky I might've gotten it to a counted yakuman, I wasn't going to change my hand anyways and it was a riichi by turn 4.
Anyways, this is how the game ended

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>>19269615
It's more likely everyone would fold and destroy your dealer baiman. You have 3 winning tiles at best in that wall.

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>>19269686
>It's more likely everyone would fold
That's kinda what I wanted.
I drew the last one, the others were in 345 melds if I'm not mistaken.

[Anonymous No.]

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2018062123gm-0089-0000-841432e2&tw=0
Am I in the "Mahjong hell" everyone is talking about? When does it end?

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>>19270134
You're trying to climb rank on Tenhou, so yes.

[Anonymous No.]

Goddamn does it feel good to finally get a good hand and win it after defending to the bitter end.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2018062219gm-0089-0000-886a980b&tw=0

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>>19275705
Congratulations on a nice hand.
What goes through the mind of のりてつ as he calls closed kan in S4 when he's first by a wide margin?

[Anonymous No.]

are there any good 3ds mahjong games, perhaps an english one

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>>19275798
Obviously 678m and 567m is no longer an option so keeping the dora for a 456m was a slim and risky move. When b-chan called riichi and I'm still far away from any resembling winning hand besides a bunch of pairs, it's just auto defend from there until I picked another 5p pair. That's when I know my only possible chance of winning was with a ryanpaikou while tossing dangerous tiles. Tossing the 5m after getting the pair 6m was a gamble since it could have been a 234m/345m wait which I had no way of knowing. Riichi'd when he tossed the 2m which felt like a signal for a possible iipatsu tsumo but sadly missed it in one turn.

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https://mahjong.guide/2018/06/22/replay-review-1/

If you'd like one of your games reviewed, fill out this form https://mahjong.guide/request-a-review/

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>>19276638
Turns out it was just a single 7s wait while everyone else is defending.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19275705
With kan called and waiting on kandora, this was a hail mary call that paid off.

[Anonymous No.]

I managed to learn mahjong at let's say toddler-tier. Really comfy game.
If questions are allowed, how do I stop playing like a cheap hand bot?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19277937
>Really comfy game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19277937
>Really comfy game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19278009
>>19278040
I got here from fkmt manga, I really like how the game feels even if up until now a good deal of its complexity is lost on me. Maybe I made a poor choice of words but I find it enjoyable despite of tense or frustrating it can be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19277937
Aim for riichi pinfu tanyao or yakuhai + hon itsu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19277937
pinfu tanyao riichi my friend
That's three han right there plus any doras
Add in tsumo or ura dora and you got a good hand going with a decent wait

[Anonymous No.]

>>19276189
I too am interested in this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19276189
>>19279666
There's Yakuman Houou, though it's Japanese-only. I was able to get it through freeShop and it seems pretty alright, no clue how the netplay is though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WL3Idcri9A

[Anonymous No.]

>>19277937
OP pastebin has some resources under further reading, although you may not get as much from the big book until you have been playing for a while. What you are probably looking for is a beginners guide for efficiency. Do you know block theory?

https://mahjong.guide/2017/12/29/mahjong-fundamentals-1-introduction/

[Anonymous No.]

>>19278206
>>19279481
Ok, I've already been playing like that unless my starting hand was really favourable.
>>19280098
I do, I was reading that blog just yesterday.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19279892
Where are the anime babes?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm done with this shit.

[Anonymous No.]

The Los Angeles Pride of Mahjong dojo has a lot of players today!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19274047
But when does it end?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19284933
When you hit the top

[Anonymous No.]

>>19283205
Whats that guy doing with his hand behind his back?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19283205
>I'm not in the pic
dodged a bullet, like I dodged that mangan
>>19285664
not a dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>19285930
The question still stands

[Anonymous No.]

>>19286727
She's pushing her chair backward. I thought that was obvious.

[Anonymous No.]

Show me your war face.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287207

[Anonymous No.]

Karen

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287207

[Anonymous No.]

麻雀, more like 魔ジャンク

[Anonymous No.]

>>19287207

[Anonymous No.]

>>19279892
>1:33
Why am I getting angry at some random Mahjong game trailer?

[Anonymous No.]

>toimen keeps hitting at least 2 uradoras

Yeah, fuck this

[Anonymous No.]

>>19226000
trips checked

you'd expect gaijin ISP scum to limit the connection to force you to play shitty foreigner mahjong instead of something like tenhou

[Anonymous No.]

Today I have learned you can't declare a kan after calling a tile

Also after 50 games, 20 2nd places and not more than 20 4th places. Kinda shit

[Anonymous No.]

>last place because I didn't win any hands
>last round is my dealer turn
>1shanten from tanyao
>tile comes out in the 5th turn, 6p wait (57p)
>discarded a 3p because I already have a 234p meld and shimocha discarded two 4p and my pair is 8p so I can't change my wait
>deal into shimochas hand in the last turn, it was yet another honitsu hand, by discarding a nan
>check wall after the game
>three 6p in the dead wall

I swear, I'll make this game my bitch. This month I was robbed of so many waits

[Anonymous No.]

>>19298137
>Today I have learned you can't declare a kan after calling a tile
I remember learning that. Lately I've been reminded that chankan is a thing too.

Saw it 5-6 times in recent games. Got it myself, and got ronned because of it too. It's a cool extra han.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19298417
Dumb piece of shit frogposter.

[Anonymous No.]

So, /jp/. How good is your game? I mean your real game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM4XXsIciJA

[Anonymous No.]

>>19299513
RIP Kojima

[Anonymous No.]

I am very happy with this hand

[Anonymous No.]

>>19300060
Wouldn't waiting be smarter because you could make it a tanyao when drawing a 4m?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19301749
Why bother waiting for something that might not come when it won't even increase the hand value?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19302083
It would've been a guaranteed haneman

[Anonymous No.]

>>19302170
Immediate guaranteed mangan with 1/3 odds of haneman is better than waiting 5 or 6 turns to draw this very specific tile (at the risk of drawing your winning tile instead) just for 100% odds of haneman that you might not even complete

[Anonymous No.]

>>19302413
Ah, alright

[Anonymous No.]

I see everyone plays on Tenhou. I'm feeling a bit self-conscience now because I play Sega-MJ.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19303150
>I play Sega-MJ
Why?
No really, why? I see a lot of people playing that now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19304055
It's not JRM bad when it comes to pay2play system, so why not? Also, flashy effects, dank commentators, and cute avatars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19304098
>dank commentators
This. I don't understand a word of Japanese, but I understand the hell out of Mahjong. And having a hype caster gets you hype as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

The sheer amount of times I saw people chii'ing the riichi tile and insta-deal in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19304098
I sorta wish tenhou had avatars
It'd probably lead down a dark path of micro transactions or something like that. But I'd like to bet something real and get cute hats and stuff for winning.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone up for a round of mahjong

[Anonymous No.]

3:0

[Anonymous No.]

off topic, thought this is a good place to ask:
is there a sudoku general on this board, or is that a more /tg/ thing

[Anonymous No.]

Thanks for the game

[Anonymous No.]

>>19307081
gg

[Anonymous No.]

>>19306963
please reconsider...I don't know you, but you have so much to live for! There has to be other options than commiting sudoku!

think about your loved ones!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19306963
Your puny existence will be replaced by eternal suffering you dumbass

[Anonymous No.]

What's a good android mahjong game that's in English that will teach me basics? I have no fucking clue what's going on in akagi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19309660
https://mahjong.guide/a-beginners-guide-to-riichi-mahjong/ for rules

http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/mahjong/mahjong_e.html for the game, not sure if it works on android though

[Anonymous No.]

>>19309676
Thanks, m8.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19305776
If I'm going to deal in, so be it, but I'll be damned if you get ippatsu. In fact, if I can, I will call the fuck out of your Riichi tile even if it wrecks my hand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19310352
Sounds like something only someone that never gets ippatsu would say.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19303150
People play Sega MJ, at least some threads ago there were some who liked it a lot. Or maybe that was just one, he used a Saki+Nodoka avatar I think.

I like the yaku announcers but it's annoying that I have to get a new apk from somewhere else because it's not in the Google Store unlike tenhou

[Anonymous No.]

>>19312995
>I like the yaku announcers
If the tenhou client had yaku announcers as well it would be pretty much perfect. I hate not being able to have a cute girl telling me exactly how badly I'm being fucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19314238
There's still that fucking bommm of yakumans.
The small pause before the sfx makes it 10/10.

[Anonymous No.]

I fucking hate Mahjong

[Anonymous No.]

>>19314358
me too. we should play together

[Anonymous No.]

does this count for a chiitoitsu tenpai? Do the four 8sous count as distinct pairs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19317699
No

[Anonymous No.]

>>19317699
Even better, those tiles are usually someone's winning tiles so you need to decide if it's chiitoi or sananko etc for you really damn fast, but you are sitting on them just because, like a dumbo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19317699
A hand like that. Just call kan and proceed to pon palace.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone else occasionally find themselves playing people from 7447 in ranked?
It's really exciting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19317699
No, "distinct" means separate. Those 8s aren't "separate" enough for Mahjong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19318750
It's happened to me once, can't remember who it was though. I won, he came fourth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19318750
ran into gogo once. poor guy dealt in like crazy

[Anonymous No.]

>>19320870
I found NEED1PIN last night.
Good game

[Anonymous No.]

>>19323221
violent game for left guy

[Anonymous No.]

I feel so violated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19323814
Forgot the link:
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2018063010gm-0009-0000-9355f515&tw=0

[Anonymous No.]

>>19323817
Shit dude. Take the tenpai here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19323887
NO. I NEED THE 123s OR IT WONT MEAN ANYTHING

[Anonymous No.]

>>19323817
These discards were painful to watch

[Anonymous No.]

>1st place
>haneman tsumo on my dealer turn
>2nd place now
>1st place getting fast hands that also progress/finish

Pretty much every game I had this month

[Anonymous No.]

Is range ban still active?

[Anonymous No.]

You've come across the pit of honor, great luck and many yakuman await you.

On another note, Tenhou is acting up with sudden disconnects. It's pretty infuriating, especially if I miss tiles because of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19325700
Are you sure you don't have any background processes? Steam, torrents, blessed win10 etc downloading something? Fine here

[Anonymous No.]

>>19325948
Didn't use windows and doubt it's torrents since they're usually not active. I'm not even sure if I had something running sometimes.
It's just really weird, cause it happens so suddenly. In the middle of a normal game just when someone discards a tile.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19326068
You sure it's not because of your connection? I've had that happen sometimes when my shitty wifi decides to act up.

[Anonymous No.]

>1st starts dealing in
>3rd place only because 4th got hit hard
>gets a closed triplet of his wind tile (double Nan) which is also the dora with a perfect hand for chanta

Fuck you

[Anonymous No.]

I fucked up, didn't I?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19327473
Yeah. Should've gone for Toitoi Yakuhai, 5200 or 6400, with a chance for kan dora to make this haneman. I don't believe in San Ankou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19327533
San ankou is still very much possible. You probably meant suu ankou. I already got that one twice, which is more than ryan peikou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19327668
San Ankou is possible with this hand but even if he gets it his hand just goes from 6400 to 8000. I'd rather kan shit and hope to hit the kandora for a 12 000 hand.

Ironically, it seems that the few San Ankou I see or get are mostly useful for non Toitoi hands.

[Anonymous No.]

Speaking of San Ankou, I have never hit the uradora with it and speaking of fucking uradoras
>riichi, 58s wait
>kamicha declares closed kan with 8s
>shimocha calls kan, kandora is 8s
>get a kan myself, get neither winning tile or new dora
>shimocha deals 5s, also winning tile for kamicha's toitoi hand

In total he only had to pay 10k points, that lucky bastard

[Anonymous No.]

>>19328922
A riichi with a pon of East and 9p would have been yakuman

[Anonymous No.]

>>19328939
Never had those tiles anyways
You can't call tiles and riichi

[Anonymous No.]

>>19329003
Yeah, meant ankou instead of pon.
Shame for your rinshan, it's wasn't so unlikely with a double-sided wait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19329017
I wouldn't be so pissed if I would've hit at least one uradora.
Not winning the hand would've made me happier

[Anonymous No.]

this is the one dreams are made of baby

[Anonymous No.]

>>19327186
git gud

[Anonymous No.]

Alright everyone, how'd July go?
We all breaking even?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19333663
July?
0+2+0+0

great I guess

[Anonymous No.]

>3rd place
>South 4th
>Opportunity knocks
>Hand starts with a triple of 6 sou's, a pair of 8 sou's, a pair of 4 sou's and a pair of Hatsu
>Oh shit, I could get a Ryuuiisou
>Someone discards a Hatsu
>Pon the Hatsu and draw another 4 sou next turn
>Nearly in tenpai for it on my 5th discard
>"Here it comes baby"
>Games drags on
>By the 13th discard, two people have riichi'd and I'm just waiting here with the same set up as before
>NO ONE has discarded a single sou tile
>Draw a single 2 sou by the 15th discard
>Game ends and I'm not in tenpai
>Both players were waiting on sou tiles, and only had around four in their hand
>Couldn't check the other players hand
>Wasn't even in tenpai so I had to play the noten fee which pushes me down to 4th.

It's not fair, bros.

[Anonymous No.]

Well, June can fuck off. I went from 1795 pts to 550 pts and lost almost 100 R. Hopefully, July can turn things around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19327473
See that 6pin in shimocha's hand? Pon that.

[Anonymous No.]

>same dora twice in a row
uncomfortable

[Anonymous No.]

>>19336211
1 in 34 chance for each hand. What are the odds?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19333663
June was so frustrating but I guess I didn't lose too much compared to what could have been.
9+9+16+8

[Anonymous No.]

Mooooom he stole my sanankou!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19334434
that's what you get for going for yakuman instead of the cheapo quick hand

[Anonymous No.]

>>19336693
1. 1/34 isn't great odds in general.
2. It would be way, way lower than that, since it would be 4/136 x 3/135 of drawing the same tile, and that's just gross, gross oversimplification. Take your snarky attitude and shove it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19334313
*June, fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>19328922
Well, at least this time I drew the red 5m which got me into tenpai so there is that at least

[Anonymous No.]

>>19335929
Hey, it could be worse. This is my first time going under 1900R in a couple of months, and my pts went to shit too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19338485
My God. Everyone went to hell last month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19339184
I didn't. I profited a little.

>>19338485
Could be worse, you could have deranked to joukyuu

[Anonymous No.]

>3:0

[Anonymous No.]

Eat the 4th you piece of shit.

>>19339184
Well, so far I'm 4/0/0/4, definitely better than a/x/b/x like last month.

[Anonymous No.]

28-42-23-18

5 -> 6 Dan

[Anonymous No.]

>dealt twice into a shitty tanki wait in a single game

I bet they felt clever too but all I did was discard tiles I considered useless

[Anonymous No.]

>>19345386
>get double ron'd by two tanki waits on a dragon tile with one in the pond
>it's happened twice

mom always told me I'd beat the odds

[Anonymous No.]

Tell me more about that one day vip thing-o I probably misunderstood. Just created a new account and Tenhou deservedly doesn't want me in joukyuu.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>19348144
>East 1 dealer declares riichi on turn 4
>Turns into a suu ankou
>Bonus round this
NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE
Granted, the other two dropped 2 hakus, but still what the fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>19348144
>bullshit.png
Did he kyuushuu kyuuhai? That sucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19349039
No, I just feel for my toimen, working hard and shit just to witness this hot mess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19349496

[Anonymous No.]

>>19349496
He had a chance to escape but deals in and dies instead. Shimocha deserved that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19351381
You do know that you need 9 different tiles to call kyuushuu kyuuhai? He's one short

[Anonymous No.]

>>19351406
He dealt the 9th.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19351413
>Different
He only had 8, including the west wind

[Anonymous No.]

>>19351426
>1m(1)
>1p(2)
>9p(3)
>9s(4)
>ton(5)
>xia(6)
>haku(7)
>haku(8)
>chun(9)

[Anonymous No.]

>>19351483
>different

[Anonymous No.]

>>19351491
Oh shit, you're right

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>Rank 4th three times in a row
>Each time I was in riichi and dealt into a haneman
>Couldn't recover because everytime someone else would deal into a tanki-wait for a tile from which I had 2-3 in my hand

Why the fuck am I still enjoying this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19356718
tough it out, plunge your hands in the sands at hell's bottom and come back stronger

[Anonymous No.]

Let's play. 2:0

[Anonymous No.]

>Game starts
>Toimen gets a 24000 point lead
>Try my hardest to get him out of it, but to no avail
>South 4th, Dealer
>Suddenly a great hand arises
>Ii-pei-koi, pinfu, tanyao, dora 2.
>Baiman with a Riichi
>Go for it
>Notice I'm in Furiten
>Only hope is Tsumo
>Same turn I notice, get my draw
>Tsumo, 6000 from all
>Score is now 42500 me, 45800 Toimen
>Time to turn this shit arou-
>game ends
>Shimocha fucking went below 0 points and game ends with a bitter 2nd place

[Anonymous No.]

>>19357624
Based

>>19359972
Should have gotten an uradora for baiman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19357624
>>19360958
But what if my opponents hands went to hell too or even stepped further in? How do I bet them then?

[Anonymous No.]

>2:4

[Anonymous No.]

Goddammit

[Anonymous No.]

2:0

Also had a sudden disconnect again and the ping test I'm running didn't show anything. Weird

[Anonymous No.]

>>19378275
I get random disconnects sometimes but it's rare.

[Anonymous No.]

>Dealer yakuman
Have fun fighting for 2nd

[Anonymous No.]

>>19378642
Depends how many turns are left.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19378733
Got a 4 han and a mangan hand afterwards, so not enough. Feels good

[Anonymous No.]

Shit