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07thExpansion thread.

>> No.18997951

>>18997931
Always wondered who wrote who.

>> No.18998047

>>18997951
Considering the sheer amount of ridiculous coincidences that led to Ikuko, a reclusive and mysterious novelist, finding Battler AND the bottle containing Yasu's story (manga only), I think it's pretty obvious that the meta is real and Featherine wrote herself into reality with a conveniently vage and poorly explained backstory (she probably hasn't even decided what her "older brothers" are like or even given them names) so she could influence the story.

I'm not saying that Ikuko is aware of her status as a witch's avatar. It's just that her entire existence and past was retconned into the "story" of the real world by a witch from a higher dimension.

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Great equalizer is the death!

>> No.18998127

>>18998115
That's not the face of a KID.

>> No.18998146

>>18997931
Why did Ange call George a virgin creep in EP6? Isn't she a virgin too?

>> No.18998249

>>18998146
Nah, she probably *ate* up sakuratou woth the sisters at some point.

>> No.18998275

>>18998146
Female virgins are not considered creepy losers who spend all day fantasizing about sex. They can get sex anywhere, anytime and with practically anyone.

A young girl like Ange can literally walk outside, find a guy she likes and ask him to fuck her. 99% of the time, the guy will say "yes". And 85% of the time, the guy will actually do whatever the hell she wants in bed, no matter how kinky the fetish is. Like licking her asshole or something.

Being a girl is so easy, I can't believe so many feminists spend all day angry and offended by stupid shit. They have such an easy life and the dumb fucks choose to severely shorten their lifespan by being furious 24/7.

>> No.18998290

anyone have a screencap of the "readers that don't think don't deserve the answer" or something part?

>> No.18998353

>>18998275
That's not true at all if you aren't a well looking girl.

We are both equal in that regard. Unnatractive guys and girls never get easy sex. That's one thing equality got right in our society.

>> No.18998412

>>18998353
If you are an average 4/10 girl, it's not that hard to look halfway decent and find some desperate 7/10 virgin who is too shy to approach pretty girls and will do anything to get some pussy. Hell, some guys even have an ugly girl fetish.

A girl has to be genuinely hideous and disgusting to look at to have any real difficulty finding sex partners. And to be fair, a person like that is far worse off as a female, since looks are really important when it comes to attracting a guy.

>> No.18998481

>>18998146
>implying an attractive 18 year old girl is a virgin just because she's a social outcast with no friends
Delusional.

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Sonozaki Mii-chan's Miraculous Love-Love Adventure 3: New Year's Chapter

>> No.18998595

>saw a cheap $6 red vest while shopping
>bought it with the intent of cutting it in half to emulate K1’s
>didn’t notice it had a metal zipper
This is beyond my sewing skills.

>> No.18998652

>>18998530
>no pubes even though she's 16

>> No.18998707
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Who was in the wrong here?

>> No.18998728

>>18998707
nobody?

>> No.18998769

>>18998728
/jp/ is a super slow board, fellow /v/ermin/f/a/ggot. Don’t expect new posts too often.

>> No.18998795

>>18998769
"nobody was in the wrong"

>> No.18998817

>>18998707
>Kinzo's hand
Is he fucking Spock?

>> No.18998994

Why does Battler have to discover the truth, who beatrice is, and what he did if he already knew as revealed in confessions of a golden witch?

Is the meta battler a representation of tohya finding out what happened? But if thats the case it gives to reason that the meta isnt real, just another story. I thought before that the meta battler was the battler that died when tohya got amnesia.

>> No.18999107

>>18998994
Meta characters are real and exist in a higher plane than those in the real world fragments. But they are separate from the original version. Maria and Yasu are fucking dead as shit IRL and can't experience anything anymore, but their meta versions do exist and have their own consciousness even though they are just clones with the same memories as the originals. Same with Battler.

The gameboards are stories written by the Hachijos and exist in the realm of fiction below the real world, but they can be experienced as real fragments in the meta world because they are possible outcomes of Beato's roulette. This means that Beato's games are happening in real parallel universes, like in Higurashi. Eunuch-kun is actually killing people for real in multiple realities.

>> No.18999146

>>18999107
So why doesn't meta battler remember what really happened on the island or about who Beatrice is?

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>>18997931

>> No.18999199

>>18999146
Because he wasn't a meta creature at first (Yasu was ascended to the meta by Lambda and turned into Beatrice). Battler was simply one of the "pieces", so he had no memory of the future. He was the Battler from an universe where EP1 happens, so he's just a normal dude with no meta knowledge.

Meta Battler's whole story is an allegory for Tohya's life, so you can interpret it that way too. You could say Meta Battler's journey resonates with him because he's technically the Battler. And because Tohya is literally writing most of the gameboards that helped Meta Battler reach the truth to sort out his own memories. It's not a coincidence that their journeys parallel each other. It's only natural that they do.

>> No.18999268

>>18999199
I just feel like I'm in denial when I try to think that the meta world is real. All of it parallels with the real world so seeing it as anything but a story makes me feel like I'm refusing to accept it as such. Another part I keep thinking about is how Ange interacted with the meta world.

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Also, my interpretation of the infinite parallel worlds in both Higurashi and Umineko is that they are just "possibilities" until a meta being makes them a reality by directly altering the events of the story (Bernkastel made the world of Saikoroshi real by interacting with Miyoko and changing her fate). They can also just find the fragment they want and "observe" it from the MC's point of view (Bern did this with Meakashi and she learned about Shion's theories that she'd never told anyone). Once someone experiments directly or simply observes one of these fragment worlds, it becomes real. Real in the sense that people in that universe actually have consciousness and are not just part of a world of possibilities and what-ifs. They are now real and exist in a real parallel world, no different from the "original" one (whatever it is).

So, Hanyuu is actually responsible for anything awful that happens in all the worlds after the original one where Rika died for the first time. She is, in a way, grabbing random fragments of possibility and making them into real worlds every time she "revives" Rika. Entire universes experienced by millions of consciousnesses (or quadrillions if you believe in aliens). If Hanyuu didn't keep reviving Rika, the world of Tsumihoroboshi would just be a possibility that exist as a fragment in the meta but that didn't really "happen" and wasn't really experienced by anyone. Just a what-if. Every time Rena blew up the school during Rika's journey, it was Hanyuu's fault for making that world a reality.

This explains Umineko too. Why is the single truth given so much importance if the meta is real (even more real than the real world) and there isn't a single "real world" among the infinite number of possible fragments? Because we are dealing with a specific world where Eva survived after Kyrie and Rudolf hijacked Yasu's plan. That was the original world of Umineko. All the gameboards we are shown are real too, but they don't really matter because we are focusing on the original world.

Not only is it the original, but we also have Eva and Battler surviving, meeting at some point and sharing what they know about the incident and Eva raising Ange into a suicidal emo bitch that needs to learn about magic to find happiness. The story is worth telling because those three elements allow Hachijo Tohya to write about the truth (Eva filled in his blanks), Ange has a shitty personality as a result of being raised by Eva and she can get a sort of happy ending by eventually meeting up with Tohya. That's what makes this specific fragment the focus of the story. Otherwise, it wouldn't be as interesting.

>> No.18999701

>>18998530
Mion's life is very hard.

>> No.18999949

>>18999701
>bludgeoned to death
>imprisoned and forced to watch her friends die before being pushed down a well
>gassed
>executed
>killed by her two best friends
>turned into a vegetable by her sister while everyone she loves got gassed
Mion...

>> No.18999990

>>18999949
She's so shy about being girly that she pushes her love interest to another girl in an act of fake brotherly comradeship and even let her own sister steal the boy she loves form her. Sonozakee Meeon is so pathetic she' simply the cutest. I love her.

>> No.19000070

>>18999990
I was about to question the second part before remembering she also had a crush on Satoshi before.
Speaking of which, did R07 even plan Mion’s crush on K1 from the start? Onikakushi seems a little weird in retrospect considering she’s practically pushing him and Rena together there, and there aren’t any other implications she had any kind of feelings for him.

>> No.19000150

>>19000070
Probably, her feelings are a big part of Watanagashi/Meakashi, and Ryukishi doesn’t seem like the type to change something like that halfway through.
Mion’s just a kind girl who wants her friends to have what they want, even at the expense of her own happiness.

>> No.19000173

Satoko is a kid! what a loser!

>> No.19000249
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I have a speculative theory surrounding the meta. Its not a complete theory and needs a lot of doctoring because its a mess desu but it helps sort some thoughts out.

I think Lamdadelta saw the unique mysteries and situation surrounding Rokkenjima in the "prime" kakera and it piqued her interests. She invites Bern to play, using the many messages bottles and forgeries as the game board and the "characters" of these stories as the pieces. They elevate Battler and Beato to meta characters, pseudo voyagers that can only see the game board. Featherine has her interest piqued as well but took to the sidelines. Bern had convinced Ange to have a near death experience by jumping off the building so that her consciousness could drift to the meta realm and become another player in the game. As a Creator, Featherine inserted herself into the prime kakera as Ikuko to influence Ange and Tohya. Featherine influenced the meta Ange while Ikuko simultaneously influenced prime Ange. The parallels between the meta and prime is because they're both playing off of each other. Ikkuko/Featherine off of the meta, Lambadelta and Bern off of the message bottles and forgeries.

>> No.19000414

>>18998707
Are you really reading Umineko in a NDS?

>> No.19000717 [DELETED] 

>>18999949
I bet Rena would enjoy being gassed by Satoko's cute butt. Rena is such a pervert.

>> No.19001601

Satoko is a mature young lady.

>> No.19001644

Oh my god, the Steam translation removed the "You are a morooooooon" line from EP6! The fuck?!

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>>19001644
oh shit, i sincerely had not noticed

>> No.19002025

Question. So in Watanagashi, right after K1 and Shion seperate on the night of Watanagashi and he meets up with his friends, there’s a scene where Mion is all creepy and monotone asking him if he met Shion. We know K1 definitely isn’t suffering from HS until the very finale, where he gives himself a heart attack through hallucinations, so what was that about?

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>>19001644
That's a shame. No more duct tape, now this.

>> No.19002047

>>19002044
no more duct tape
What?!
t. didn't read the steam version

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>>19002047
It's now packing tape. The original Japanese text referred to it as "gum tape", so packing tape is actually more accurate.

>> No.19002092

>>19002083
The steam sprites look really trashy, who can take a mystery seriously when it looks like they'll start a tentacle orgy at any second

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>>19002092
Who can take a mystery seriously when there's witches and demons and magic fights happening all the time?

>> No.19002193

>>19002092
>Steam Erika or Dlanor
>trashy

umm

>> No.19002215

I want to procreate with a cake.

>> No.19002231

I want to procreate with Shion.

>> No.19002248

I want to procreate with Featherine.

>> No.19002255

I want to procreate with my avatar.

>> No.19002256

>>19002190
(re-post from /vn/ since he didn't show up)
For the anon on /v/ who was looking for a VNDS ready version of Umineko Chiru English translated playable on mobile, here's your link.
https://mega.nz/#F!6UNXwAjI!Psvww_SDu6SVsMcAxf5UeQ

The folder "umineko-chiru (PS3 visuals, no voices)" must be placed in the VNDS/novels sub-folder. The app is somewhat barebones and doesn't detect the novels folder automatically so you'll have to write manually, the result should be similar to pic related.

Sorry for the enormous delay man, the whole convert thing took more time than expected, so I couldn't upload it on MEGA on time because I went to sleep. Anyway, here is the version with PS3 sprites and backgrounds, but without the voices. If I remember well you also played the question arcs on your phone (but this is also addressed to people willing to read comfortably in their bed) so you're already aware that there will be some problems such as :
-no openings, their theme is playing on the main menu/title screen ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVFWNKM09kQ for the VNDS version of Chiru and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f184GruHq9o for Umineko)
-sometimes music transition will not work properly, meaning that the BGM will continue playing where it should've stopped. Fortunately, it doesn't ruin many scenes and you can guess by their dialogue that no music should be playing. On top of that, the BGM often changes so the discrepancy doesn't last long
-no animated rain, only sound
-slashing, and other cool visual effects not displaying properly or as backgrounds, meaning that the fighting scenes are not smooth and fluid like on PC
-remember that tea parties and "???" you see when selecting an episode is for the episode in question. So don't forget to read them after finishing your ep

I plan to upload the VNDS versions of the question arcs, original and PS3, as well as the original version of Chiru, all available in English of course.

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>>19002256
Forgot said pic related and also to answer >>19002190
Anyway if you're not baiting I think that the magic elements and battles were good for understanding the symbolism behind the murders or the events. But they really went overboard in episode 8

>> No.19002281

>>19002266
>if you're not baiting
It was a joke. There's more to enjoying Umineko than just the sprites or the mystery elements. If you're reading it for the first time, the magic elements in a mystery and the main character arguing with a witch that she doesn't exist can be absurd, but it's a story worth reading all the way, more than once.

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Who has the bigger dick?

>> No.19002425

>>19002381
me

>> No.19002459

>>19002381
Sayo at birth.

>> No.19002531

>>19002459
I wonder how big Kanon's meta penis is

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Run Mion, run!

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>>18999199
That was retconned in the manga. Now he's just Battler that lost his memories after he fell into the sea.

>> No.19003584

>>18997931
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15057100

>> No.19003591

>>18997931
Hey where does the truth section of the chapters' articles on the umineko wiki come from? Some future release by Ryukishi where he gives out the answers? And why do some parts of them have a little editor's note saying the following events aren't confirmed to be true yet?

>> No.19003941

>>19003434
I don't like this retcon at all, it's dumb. This is why the ep8 manga was a mistake

>> No.19003998

>>19003941
The whole manga was a mistake. It's a lazy answer sheet for those unable to put effort into thinking.

>> No.19004143

EP8 as a whole needed retconning anyways after that embarrassingly bad and lazy second half.

>> No.19004521

Does the Steam version contain Tsurupettan? I doubt it does.

>> No.19004593

>>19004521
Yes

>> No.19004826

>>19003998
Except that the answer was already be been implied in Vn and manga just explored it in more depth

>> No.19004836

Manga Ep 8 >>>>>>>> VN Ep 8

>> No.19004859

>>19004521
As far as I'm aware, the only track that was changed was the speech in system0, but that was also removed in the PS3 port. Both likely due to legal reasons.

>> No.19004887

>>19004836
Agreed. The changes they made were pretty much all for the better.

>> No.19004890

>>19003998
There's a loot of things about Umineko that you should think about. However what manga explored more shouldn't be one of them

>> No.19004913

>>19004890
I couldn't imagined how much people would still think Rosatrice is the true solution if it wasn't for manga even though in VN. It still obvious but just way less depth than manga was

>> No.19005099 [DELETED] 

Imagine if Meta-Beato still had a dick and when she is frustrated she masturbates...
She must jerk off a lot!

>> No.19005126

>>19003941
Is it really a retcon if it was never outright established in the first place? That's like saying Episode 8's manga retconned Rosatrice.

>> No.19005142

>>19004913
Rosatrice was just a western shitpost, i still don't understand how some people thought that Rosatrice was the truth, if you re-read the question arcs the shkanon foreshadowing was really explicit.

>> No.19005160

>>19004836
Nope, Manga EP8 had some cool character interactions that made for a better closure for the family relationship in a way, but they ruined a whole essential point of the story with extra explicitness.

Not to mention that not all the changes were made for the better at all. It doesn't help that Natsumi Kei took quite a few liberties with Ryukishi storyboard here and there for some of the scenes (as stated in the tankobon comments).

A particular one that got me actually mad was the the last chapter for the EP8 manga, in which, first of all, there wasn't any need for that stupid graveyard fanservice scene.

And most importantly, changing from Ange wanting to show Tohya that her dedication that was once focused in getting to know what happened to her family only to ultimately bring her life to an end, was now being focused on taking care of kids that didn't have the opportunity of having one themselves, and giving them hope and brightness for a magical future of their own.

In the manga, Tohya just goes "hey, I wanna see that orphanage and shit", and that was just one stupid bad adaptation of Ange's character arc conclusion, which is one of the best and most well developed ones in the entirety of Umineko, not to mention having one hell of a beautiful message.

The manga having ruined that part of the VNs narrative is enough for me to say that EP8's manga failed.

>> No.19005204

>>19005160
This, pretty much.

As much as I consider the manga as being a necessary evil of an "answer book" for the VN, I just can't see it as the "hurdur better than the original" product people always claim it to be.

That said. other than the Confession being one nice extra for it, it only makes already known information more fleshed out... which they even treat as a whole different product, not even numbering the chapters for it, since the story actually is not supposed to spoonfeed you the whole context, only to show every single piece of evidence that would make you reach the same conclusion during a reread.

It did end the damn hatedom our fanbase has become in a large portion, so that's that.

>> No.19005206

>tfw I will never have a dedicated and loyal wife like Natsuhi
why even live

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>>19005206
She's the best and the purest!

>> No.19005251

>>19005160
You just hate any changes don't you?

>> No.19005266

>>19005251
I hate significant changes for the worse, and who doesn't?

>> No.19005272

>>19005160
I find more fault with the PS3 version and some of the voice acting choices than with the manga. The manga adds great stuff and doesn't replace the original novel in anyway. It's just a retelling in a different medium, with its own canon. You don't have to accept anything revealed there as being canon to the VN.

>> No.19005296

>>19005266
But it's better.

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>> No.19005481

>>19005474
Natsuhi is pure and innocent! She is the best!

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>>19005481

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Sonozaki Mii-chan's Miraculous Love-Love Adventure 4: Shrine Visit Chapter

>> No.19005530

>>19005491
cute!

>> No.19005715

>>19002381
Satoshi is 7 inches at least

>> No.19005730

>>19005491
cute!!!!

>> No.19005838

>>19004836
A piece of shit being slightly less smelly than another piece of shit doesn't mean much.

>> No.19005843

Remember when EP8 came out and /jp/ wanted Ryukishi's head on a stick?

>> No.19005980

>>19005843
We were one dumb bunch back then, please don't remember me of that ever again.

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>>19006244
Chadichi

>> No.19006344

>>19005843
Now it seems like it's the other way around.

>> No.19006548

>>19006244
>>19006271
I had totally forgotten how badass this guy was. I barely remembered his voice for some reason.

Battler has more style because he's stuck wearing a suit for all eternity, but K1 is a much cooler dude.

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>> No.19006611 [DELETED] 

I wonder why God gave Satoko an asshole. She is so cute, so why the fuck would you give her something as uncute as a butthole?

God must be a huge pervert. The world is doomed.

>> No.19006739

>>19006548
Battler's suit will never compare to K1s fagvest. It's simply not possible.

>> No.19006830

>>19006548
Poor Battler. Suits are uncomfortable as fuck.

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How did you portray Keiichi apparence before reading Meakashi for the first time? If you were unspoiled, of course.

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>>18998115
Where did you take that picture?

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>>18998275
>>18998353
As one of you said, life is overall better for good looking individuals. But the point where a girl will have a harder time, at least in terms of finding a parter/relationship/casual sex, is way lower than for men who literally get wiped out of existence if they're under 6/10 or too small. Whereas even disabled women can easily date higher than their looks and status.
Actually I think that's partly the reason why despite all of George's efforts, Yasu was still heavily attracted to Battler and fell for him because he simply had the looks(as well as the confidence/personality suiting his appearance), and didn't look like a chubby pretentious nice guy virgin.(that's also why I'm not a big fan of the PS3 sprites, he isn't fat enough) Not saying that I'm hating George here, nor being frustrated like the robots from a certain board, but I'm glad that Ryukishi took a realist approach on this one.

>> No.19007524

>>19007488
It's ironic that George's girlfriend turned out to be the "Supreme Gentleman" instead. You'd expect someone like George to snap and shoot up a school because he's a virgin.

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>>19007312
I imagined him looking like a generic self insert protag, wasn't too far from the truth. Thank god is casual outfit is at least cool and original.
On a related note, I don't exactly know why but before I read episode 5 I imagined Satoshi being an edgy boy with dark hair wearing a baseball cap backward.

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>>19007524
>girlfriend
>turned out to be the "suprême gentleman"
We easily tend to forget that Yasu was a man first and foremost, despite all of what he did to make us believe the opposite. But Elliot Rodger would have snapped way earlier if he was in his shoes, Yasu really did manage to hold on for a long time, thanks to the kindness she received from Maria, Kumasawa and Jessica.

>> No.19007563

>>19007535
>cool

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>>19007563
>implying it isn't

>> No.19007588

>>19007563
It is very cool

>> No.19007613

>>19002381
I bet Satoshi is twice as big

>> No.19007667

>>19007488
>17 year old George
>about to enter university
>one of the bullies approaches him
>"Oi, Jooji! You lookin' at my girl's ass?!
>"N-No... I... I was just... "
>"Hahahaha! I was kiddin', man! You look pale!"
>"Hehehe... Sorry..."
>"Whatever, gotta go! I have a date with my girlfriend! What about you, Jooji?"
>"Aah... I... I'm single... I don't have a girlfriend yet."
>"I figured! Hahahaha! Well, goodbye Jooji! Have a nice day!"
>"You're welcome..." (fuck, I was too nervous and said something retarded instead of "you too")
>George, a grown ass university student, walks home while wishing death upon that guy and every girl who likes alpha males like him
>at the same time, he fantasizes about dating the servant loli that works at his grandpa's island and cucking his younger cousin who just barely started middle school but is already much more attractive, charming, sociable and likeable than him

>> No.19007685

>>19007556
yasu is not a man fuck you

>> No.19007712

>>19007524
>EP9
>Shkanon turns out to be a red herring
>George was the culprit all along
>October 5 was The Day of Retribution
>Ange is forced to read his cringeworthy, 600 pages long manifesto

>> No.19007727

>>19007535
When I read La Sombra del Viento, I imagined the protagonist as K1 and the mysterious writer whose life parallels the protagonist's life as Satoshi.

>> No.19007805
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19007805

The Soul Brothers, or Four Dark Heavenly Kings, is a group that first appears in the mini-game Renapan, available as a bonus of Onikakushi-hen (removed in Mangagamer's version). At this time, the only members were Keiichi, Tomitake and Ōishi, Irie joined them later, simply because we didn't know him yet.

>removed in Mangagamer's version
Literally why.

>> No.19007851
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>>19007805
M*ngagamer simply doesn't understand the power of true bonds between men.

>> No.19007870

>>19007805
i never even knew about the minigames in higurashi until way later, no idea why they were removed.

>> No.19007872

>>19007805
Probably not to paint those characters in a positive light so soon

>> No.19007912

Where can I find the non-patched, non-mangagamer Higurashi to download?

>> No.19007945 [DELETED] 

Ange is for anal.

>> No.19008083

Why haven't you written your own forgery yet? Aren't you at the level of a Game Master? You know the characters and their situations, and the tricks, and the possibilities.

>> No.19008088

The battler did it

>> No.19008122

Battler Blanco y La Bruja Eunuco.

>> No.19008126 [DELETED] 

I want to be ange personal toilet!

>> No.19008140

>>19007870
They cointained references to other doujin works, so the Amerifatsos at Mangagamer were worried that it might cause problems with copyright laws.

>> No.19008141

>>19007320
https://twitter.com/garrethared
This guy got a commission to sculpt her.

>>19008083
Honestly why aren't there a plethora of forgeries made by fans for Umineko? It should get the same treatment that the Fate series has gotten.

>> No.19008149

Making Shion a cute housewife and helping her get past Satoshi while ignoring Mion.

>> No.19008169

>>19008083
Because Witches and Woodlands cannot be topped.

>> No.19008208

>>19008149
You don't make the devil sister into your wife, she makes you her wife, like she did with Kasai

>> No.19008308

>>19008169
It's about showing your love for Umineko. Doesn't matter if it can't top something else.

>> No.19008339
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>> No.19008420
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>Shion asks Kei-chan on a study date to get close to him
>Rena takes him to the dump and gives him homemade cookies to win his heart
>Mion throws a game, which he would have had no way of knowing if Rena hadn't pointed it out
Is she dumb?

>> No.19008448 [DELETED] 

Ange's big Futanari dick

>> No.19008452

>>19008140
satoko pussy was a-ok though

>> No.19008454 [DELETED] 

>>19008448
Do you think anyone saw underneath her skirt when she jumped off the building? How embarrassing.

>> No.19008477

>>19008420
Flustered miimii is my favorite sprite.

>> No.19008484 [DELETED] 

>>19008454
I bet she got an erection whe she Jumped and she never used underwear!

>> No.19008490

Tsuisou no Despair is the best and most underrated Higurashi song.

>> No.19008512

>>19008490
To be fair almost every Higurashi VN OP are underrated as fuck

Ascension and Angelic Bright are the best IMO

>> No.19008537

>>19008490
Must be blind to think that. Helter Skelter is obviously the superior song, none can match it.

>> No.19008729 [DELETED] 

>>18999199
That doesn't make sense given the ending goes from Beato jumping off the boat > Battler going after her > them appearing in the world of the chessboard in the manga. Essentially he became a meta-character at that point because "Battler" is dead in the real world, same as Beato, but his meta-position is to be a human opposing Beatrice, not to be a witch like Yasu. After EP5 he can no longer be Beato's opponent because he solved the riddle and thus becomes a "witch" (sorcerer) as his meta-character had no reason to continue existing as once he figured it out he no longer needed to be the "human" Battler finding the truth.

>> No.19008742

>>18999199
That doesn't make sense given the ending goes from Beato jumping off the boat > Battler going after her > them appearing in the world of the chessboard sequence in the manga. Essentially he became a meta-character at that point because "Battler" is dead in the real world, same as Beato, but his meta-position is to be a human opposing Beatrice, not to be a witch like Yasu. After EP5 he can no longer be Beato's opponent because he solved the riddle and thus becomes a "witch" (sorcerer) as his meta-character had no reason to continue existing as once he figured it out he no longer needed to be the "human" Battler finding the truth.

>> No.19008792 [DELETED] 

>>19008126
Teenangste Ange or rori Ange?

>> No.19008808

>>19006830
Reminder that Natsuhi makes Krauss wear a suit at all times even in his own home.

>> No.19008815

>>19008808
Its her fetish. I bet she even makes him wear one while taking a shower or when they're failing at having a child.

>> No.19008820

>>19008452
No? That was removed too.

>> No.19008851 [DELETED] 

>>18998275
Females who have never eaten dog shit are not considered creepy losers who spend all day fantasizing about eating dog shit. They can eat dog shit anywhere, anytime and with practically any dog.

A young girl like Ange can literally walk outside, find a dog she likes and ask him to shit for her. 99% of the time, the dog will take a shit. And 85% of the time, the dog will actually shit out whatever the hell she wants, no matter how disgusting the taste is. Like making chunky diarrhea or something.

Being a girl is so easy, I can't believe so many dogshit activists spend all day angry and offended by stupid shit. They have such an easy life and the dumb fucks choose to severely shorten their lifespan by being furious 24/7.

>> No.19008858

>>19008820
in the steam version it was removed, in the OG mangagamer it was present in all its glory, unlike the minigames

>> No.19008993

>>19006344
No, the same people still do. They were young back then and didn't pay as much attention to the hints as they could have. Except unlike others, they never bothered to reread it and just parrot the same insults about the second half of the series.

>> No.19009009

>>19008083
I did

In my head

>> No.19009018

If rosatrice fags really believe it, they should turn their forgery into a vn.

>> No.19009026

>>19009018
You should stop giving it more life by continuing to meme it around at every chance you get

>> No.19009101
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Why do we hate him again?

>> No.19009118
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>>19009101
He's a pedophile

>> No.19009188

>>19009101
He didn't kidnap Satoko

>> No.19009190

>>19008742
boys can be witches too!

>> No.19009194

>>19009190
Doesn't it say this somewhere in the tips?

>> No.19009330
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19009330

I thought Nanjo and Kinzo only met after the whole Bice incident thing? That also was after Kinzo inheriting the Ushiromiya family name, right? So how did he understand Krauss?

>> No.19009884

>>19008420
Her master plan was to get Rena to point it out from the start, and look cute by getting embarrassed. Mion's playing 4D chess in the Kei-chan Bowl.

>> No.19011251 [DELETED] 

>>19008858
How is Satokoのpussy glorious? To be honest, loli pussies look kind of boring.

>> No.19011262

>>19009101
Favorite character. I like how he says pedo stuff and then pretends it was a joke.

>> No.19011349 [DELETED] 

what's wrong with wanting to be Ange personal toilet? fuck off puritan anon.

>> No.19011364

>I will never be a chad or smart like K1
It's not fair

>> No.19011589 [DELETED] 

>>19011251
Their pussies look boring but also non-offensive. Just like Asian girls. Their faces are almost always "cute" but never stunningly beautiful or actually ugly.

>> No.19011764

>>19009101
We do?

>> No.19011795
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19011795

Sonozaki Mii-chan's Miraculous Love-Love Adventure 5: Planning Chapter

>> No.19011808

>>19011795
Please make her happy, i can't tolerate Mion bullying unlike Ange or Satoko ;_;

>> No.19011826

>>19011795
When the Mion nakus her kokoro neet.

>> No.19011890

>>19008993
Well, I'll re-read it. Not like there's much I can do anyways.

>> No.19011905

Why didn't Yasu try to contact Battler? Why did he keep waiting for him to come? It would've been easy to send him a letter or even give him a call. There were a million things he could've done, but he chose the worst one.

>> No.19011918

>>19011905
I can field this even as one of the most ardent Yasu detractors out there - she felt trapped, and also clung to the idea of Battler being the one to save her.

>> No.19011936

Yasu is a creepy orphan eunuch that doesn't understand why losing your mother would make you forget about a girl (male).

>> No.19011946

>>19011905
She's shy and is scared of the family finding out that she has a personal interest in Batora beyond being a maid.

>> No.19011947

>>19011905
Send him a letter or give him a call and say what? 'Hey battler i'm sorry about your mom, but you were supposed to come for me'?

>> No.19011957

>>19011905
>but he chose the worst one.
Indeed. Giving up on chad Battler and dating virgin nice guy Jooji is a pretty terrible decision.

>> No.19011962

>>19008993
I was legit too stupid to get Umineko so I also got on the hate bandwagon when it ended. I'm sure there are lots of people out there who still say Umineko is shit, but would actually enjoy it if they read it today.

>> No.19011964

>>19007805
How can anyone dislike the original sprites? The way their bodies lean back like that is pretty hilarious.

>> No.19012074

>>19011947
What about a simple greeting? They were kinda friends, nothing wrong with a friend calling another friend.

>> No.19012290

Someone post that amazing fanart of Battler and Ange.

You know the one.

>> No.19012356
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19012356

So I started reading subahibi because I saw it mentioned in these threads and while it has some interesting concepts I'm getting kinda tired of reading about this guys fucked up fetishes over and over, I swear his chapter has been 80% sex scenes, and while I get that he's a perverted autistic sex obsessed nerd I think that's it's a bit too much.

>> No.19012372

>>19012356
It's to drive the point home. You can't walk away from this chapter with the impression that he's an autistic sex obsessed pervert unless it's filled to the brim with his perverted delusions.

Anyway, there is a thread about it already.

>> No.19012384

>>19012356
>I'm getting kinda tired of reading about this guys fucked up fetishes over and over
What are you doing in a 07thExpansion thread then. Scat fetish anon is right around the corner. He'll probably start talking about how Ange should be turned into a human centipede along with his other waifus or something like that.

>> No.19012403

>>19012356
Once you get through those scenes, it's much better. I personally enjoy his fucked up fetishes and find his autism hilarious. He's such a massive trainwreck of a human being that I just can't look away.

>> No.19012558

>>19012290
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/3376836

>> No.19013066

>>19012558
>those feet
Is that how Ryu would draw feet?

>> No.19013096

>>19012384
Jokes aside, a human centipede ange-jessica and maybe maria would be a better punishment to wake up battler! i don't understand the hate in that, Bern was really sweet and bland with Batora.

>> No.19013185

Why do Americandies call Beato "Bido"

>> No.19013194

>>19013185
>Steam version had to specify how to pronounce it because of them
Good job.

>> No.19013210

Beatriz tenía chasquilla pokemona

>> No.19013312

>>19013185
beat-O here
the first time I heard her name correctly with voice patch changed my life

>> No.19013319

>>19013185
Many are unfamiliar with the Italian pronunciation of the name Beatrice. I didn't know about it until I watched Umineko and looked into the name.

>> No.19013321

>>19013185
I mean a lot of people grow up pronouncing jap things wrong.
Karatee
Kamehkazee

>> No.19013335

>>19013319
BEA TREE CHAY

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>>19013335

>> No.19013404

How did Yasu know Ange wasn't coming to the family conference?

>> No.19013447

>>19013404
She didn't, but it wouldn't have changed anything if she did come.

>> No.19013454

>>19013447
Good question. But all the message bottles written ahead of time contained scenarios where Ange wasn't present.

>> No.19013474

>>19013447
Her message bottles wouldn't have been as believable then, would they?

>> No.19013481

>>19013185
>Hide Yoshi
>looks like Mario

>Tommy Take
>takes pictures

What did Ryu mean by this?

>> No.19013489

>>19013185
American pronunciations are fucked up. Languages should have only 1 pronunciation for each vowel, like Spanish, Italian or Japanese. You don't see 12 year old kids participating in "spelling bees" over there because every kid can spell any word correctly by age 6, even words they've never seen before.

>> No.19013492

>>19013321
Let's sing some Keireiouki!

>> No.19013541

Can someone explain what's so funny about "Mariaは"?

>> No.19013548

>>19013541
Stop

>> No.19013649

>>19013541
no

>> No.19013666

>>19013541
The absurdity of using Japanese particles in English.

And the はcutenes of Oosheeromeeya Mareea.

>> No.19013729

Why did Hideyoshi randomly say <Death by hanging> in English?

>> No.19013745

>>19013729
DESU BAI HANGINGU YA! WAHAHAHA!

>> No.19014006

Deatherino by hangerina.

>> No.19014096

>>19012558
I never knew a girl's asshole could be so hairy.

>> No.19014098

>>19013454
>>19013474
were the message bottles thrown long before the day of the conference? I don't really remember this part
If they weren't maybe Yasu erased Ange from all of his stories when he heard a few days prior that she was too sick to come?

>> No.19014147

>>19014098
Either day before or day of based on "expert" analysis if I remember correctly.

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>>19014098
According to what the police found, they were thrown a few days before the conference. According to the manga, she wrote a lot of messages, so it'd be a bit unlikely she rewrote all of them to not include Ange. Maybe Ange tended to get sick and Yasu wrote a few of the message bottles without her in them? Dunno.

>> No.19014216

>>19014169
The problem with the message bottles is that in all of the previous family conferences: Ange was there, and there were no typhoons.

The typhoons I guess could be excused because Rudolf mentioned once that typhoons always happened at that time of the year. So she "got lucky" with a typhoon actually occurring when they died. I don't remember, but could Ange have been sick for a while this time? She could have heard about that and incorporated it into her last message bottles. Same with hearing about battler coming.

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>>19014169
Something being "a bit unlikely" doesn't really matter in Umineko though, as long as it is humanely possible it could have happened.

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19014595

Say something nice about Onee.

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19014608

I'm playing "When the Seacats Cry" and Battler's blue truths continue 10/10

>> No.19014638

>>19014595
Shion butt pubes are green too?

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C-cute

>> No.19014899

>>19014851
I don't get it. Is that Jessica or Beato? And why is Mion wondering why she didn't get Jessicaのold dress?

>> No.19014915

>>19014851
Beato a REAL woman now! Yay!

>> No.19014941

>>19014899
That's the doll from the toy store. Mion's comparing Beato's dress to it.

>> No.19014950

>>19014851
Mion doesn't give a single shit about dolls, though. She just got triggered because K1 treated her like a dude rather than a girl.

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>> No.19014962

>>19014950
That was the main issue, but she still thought it was super cute. She likes feminine things, but pretends not to, getting put in Beato's pretty dress would certainly invoke that kind of reaction.

>> No.19014967

>>19014899
It's the toy store doll. It looks more like Mion is thinking she's all dressed up like a cute doll, rather than thinking about Jessica's old dress. Or something.

>> No.19014975

>>19014952
I don't remember this red

>> No.19015005

Is Mion's massive 80s bush feminine or masculine? I can imagine a girl letting her body hair grow because she's such a tomboy that she doesn't care that much about looking pretty. And body hair is often considered a masculine trait. But at the same time, what is more feminine than a glorious hairy pussy? A guy can't have a bush that big because the dick and balls get in the way. The full bush is an inherently feminine thing.

>> No.19015017

>>19014975
>>19014608

>> No.19015035

>feelerino when the umineko screenshot generator is dead
I remember the days when people would post fake spoilers and trick people into thinking that later episodes confirmed that Kinzo is Beatrice and shit like that.

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>>19015035
>fake
What, you don't remember this happening?

>> No.19015074

>>19014608
Kek

>> No.19015081

>>19015066
fuck i feel old, those are EP8 "Leaks" right?

>> No.19015095

>>19015066
What is Yui from K-ON doing there with Doranoru and Gaatorudo?

>> No.19015194

>>19015081
Anon... How long are you here?

>> No.19015361 [SPOILER] 
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19015361

What do you think about my slav cousin's Maria cosplay?

No lewd comments, please. She doesn't know English anyway.

>> No.19015390

>>19015361
Pretty good, she looks like maria
(This isn't the best place to post a child picture t b h )

>> No.19015410

>>19015361
Lolis can't be weebs. They are all disgusting normies. So how did you get her to cosplay as an obscure VN character?

>> No.19015414

>>19015361
What does the letter say?

>> No.19015416

>>19015361
I wish I was you (Slav)

>> No.19015419

>>19015410
What about nevada?

>> No.19015482

>>19015361
O-oh

>> No.19015493

Is there an umineko generator that isn't dead? Or one that you can locally host? I'm too lazy to make shit in nscripter or photoshop.

>> No.19015550

>>19015493
Nevermind, found it.

>> No.19015570

>>19015550
Mind sharing?

>> No.19015574

>>19015493
I downloaded the old one, but it's missing the EP7 and EP8 sprites.

>> No.19015582

>>19015574
>>19015570
https://www.goldbargames.com/seacats/

>> No.19015600

>>19015582
Oh wait, I didn't read. Not custom text, so its pointless as hell.

>> No.19015625

>>19015361
I'm trying to find the words to describe your cousin without being disrespectful/lewd.

She's mad cute and the cosplay is pretty much perfect.

>> No.19015669

>>19015361
Hadn't someone already posted another slav girl cosplaying as Maria too? What's with slavs and Umineko?

>> No.19015985

>>19015361
Very cool
Were you with her at a conference?
How many people complimented her cosplay / asked to take pictures with her?
How much do slav weebs know about Umineko?

>> No.19016018

>>19015410
Normies are fucking disgusting brainlets, but lolis are the exception because they're cute.

I've noticed that females tend to be normies more often than males. When you see an actual female weirdo, she's either severely mentally ill or ugly/fat as fuck, which forces her to be an outcast. Girls who are weirdos exclusively because of their personality or intelligence are extremely rare.

>> No.19016023

>>19015361
Did you show her any Maria hentai?

>> No.19016046

>>19016023
Why would you do that to a child

>> No.19016054

>>19016046
What are you talking about? Maria was born in 1977. She's 41 years old now.

>> No.19016061

>>19016054
Oh, so she's one of those 1000 year old lolis, huh? Does that mean it's ok to talk about her lewd armpits and sweaty butt crack?

>> No.19016064

>>19016023
What's the point of showing Maria porn of herself? She's seen that body like 3000 times.

>> No.19016266

>>19014595
She has essentially the same body and face as Mion which means she's sexy and cute, but not as much

>> No.19016591
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19016591

Damn, Irie is ripped.

>> No.19016602

>>19016591
Rika's boyfriends are so cool

>> No.19016611
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>>19016591
Of course.

>> No.19016702
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>>19016591
But can he stop a stun grenade with his pecs?

>> No.19016795

>>19014169
I mean, it's rather simple.
He wrote tons of different message bottles, and as stated by the story itself. In fact, there were so many, people wouldn't know if most of the others were just forgeries popping up here and there after the originals (that was a problem stated in EP4 as well).

It's pretty much a given that some of these had variants of which person would have missed the family conference, and he probably just burned the ones that would happen to be incoherent once she confirmed how many people would be present in the island during the event.

Yasu had a lot of time to plan all that, and he was one hell of a mastermind. Ange being sick wasn't some last time thing, as her sickness has gotten worse than what she apparently already was, so, it's also a given that Yasu knew of her not coming beforehand as well.

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Woah...we really were...the Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni all along...

>> No.19016865

>>19016795
It's also possible that Yasu wrote several hypothetical scenarios, and the ones that washed up just happened to be ones where Ange missed the conference.

>> No.19017414

>>19015361
Your slave cousin? I want to know more.

>> No.19017589

>>19016827
BRAVO RYU

>> No.19017803

>>18998047
>witch from a higher dimension
Its R07. Hanyuu/Featherine has always been R07's piece which is why they are able to transport themselves into his universes, and why Featherine is brushing close to madness because she can
conceive the boundaries of her own existence.

>> No.19017897
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19017897

Happy mother's day, Natsuhi!

>> No.19017942
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Fucking ryukishi, making best girl a edgy asshole
I'm still mad

>> No.19018015

>>19017942
She was an edgy asshole since EP3 tho, and before that she barely had any significant characterization

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>>19018015
Are you talking about that fight with eva beatrice and furnitures?

>> No.19018060

>>19018034
Yup, she even admitted so herself. Doesn't make her any less of a badass though.

Hell, even in EP7, that status just don't go way. Psychos kill people, badass psychos kill their own niece punching her face until there is no face, just a unrecognizable pulp.

>> No.19018346

>>19015361
>she's a human being
Lewd!

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Sonozaki Mii-chan's Miraculous Love-Love Adventure 6: Cooking Chapter

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~Uuuuu!!! Happy mother's day mama! Daisuki! Momma Daisuki!!!

>> No.19019144

>>19018619
Cute!!!

>> No.19019268

>>19018619
Why must you torment Mii-chan like this

>> No.19019347

>>19018619
Isn't Mion canonically a good cook?

>> No.19019384

>>19019347
She's not used to making chocolate, or something.

>> No.19019386

>>19018619
Do your best, Mii-chan!
>>19019347
Maybe she's cooking spicy food.

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>>19019007
The cutest and the best mom/wife/aunt and witch!

>> No.19019401

>>19019395
i don't know why i quoted you Maria,sorry im talking about Bestsuhi

>> No.19019435

Everyone knows best mom/sister is Beatrice Ushiromiya.

>> No.19019440

>>19019347
Maybe she's cooking a lethal meal for k1

>> No.19019450

>>19018619
>How 2 チョコ
>fire
How

>> No.19019451

>>19019435
cousin/uncle/lover/witch/servant/boyfriend/girlfriend/furniture/succesor but not a mom.

>> No.19019699

>>19019347
Yes, she is canonically a gook.

>> No.19019707

>>19015361
What does she smell like?

>> No.19019735

>>19019451
the real Beatrice Ushiromiya is a mother though, she's Yasu's mom

>> No.19019868

>>19019707
Faint sweat because she is a human being.

>> No.19019945

>>19019707
Like crayon.

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~Uuuuu momma. . . why won't you respond to Maria?

>> No.19020132

>>19020110
I wonder what compelled Ryukishi to write a literal autistic loli.

>> No.19020152

>>19020132
Mi-?

>> No.19020220

>>19020132
He's a sperglord himself. That's why he's now stuck with Ryuukishi07 as his pen name. Fucking Ryuukishi (dragon knight) ReiNana (the name of his waifu Reina from FFV). I remember he said in an interview that he kind of regretted not thinking of a more serious name.

Ryukishi is a quite fascinating dude. He used to work at a videogame store and he gave away free copies of Onikakushi to the clients to promote Higurashi.

>> No.19020399

>>19020132
I'm sure he came across some autistic kids in his line of work

>> No.19020447

>>19020132
Maria is pretty cute, but she'd be insufferable in real life. Having to deal face to face with a rude little shit is exhausting, even if she's a cute loli.

>> No.19020506

>>19020447
You just have to play to her interests.
"I know a type of magic to make you feel you, here, take off your clothes and sit on my lap."

>> No.19020519

>>19020506
feel good*

>> No.19020556

https://youtu.be/eitQYgCqA-0

Beatoはcute!

>> No.19020567

>>19020110
I want to punch this face.

>> No.19020586

>>19009330
Nanjo was one of kinzo's only real friends. the text might be referring to nanjo remembering the event by proxy as a result of being told about it by kinzo so many time in the past.

>> No.19021074

Tsumihoroboshi on steam when

>> No.19021161

>>19021074
never

>> No.19021550

tfw wanna re-read but too scared to

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>>19008141
I was actually thinking of writing a game of Umineko one day. It's much better suited to have fan works written for it than almost any other series. Not only is the premise given to you, but across the infinitude of fragments around, even the most absurd fan works are given room to exist. I'd probably make mine pretty long and talk about the philosophy and themes a lot; that'd be a fun way to write a sort of thesis for the work and I'd have a lot to say.

>>19021550
It's actually made to be read a second time obviously enough that I refuse to really explain, but it's a good investment. What's deterring you?

>> No.19021627

>>19021618
Life being stressful.

>> No.19021719

>>19020447
Severe autism can be super annoying. Compared to that, Maria would be pretty normal.

https://youtu.be/HW-neVrBiRU

It's quite pathetic. Still cute, though.

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hig ep 6 never

>> No.19021818

>>19020556
For someone who hasn't gone through puberty you can still tell he's male. He doesn't look androgynous like you would expect. I'm shocked.

>> No.19021842

>>19021818
Because puberty isn't everything. Otherwise, girls and boys in elementary school would be indistinguishable from each other if they wear the same clothes and a wig.

That guy slowly absorbed testosterone like every other kid until he was supposed to hit puberty and obtain a shitton of it. But it never happened for some reason and now he's stuck looking like a creepy eunuch.

>> No.19021851

>>19021719
Why do autistic loli meltdowns make me all warm and fuzzy inside? I want to calm her down.

>> No.19021854

>>19021795
We got USA'd

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>>18998817
That's not what the ta'al looks like. Two fingers are spread on either side.

>> No.19021868

>>18998047
>>19017803
Sounds like me. How to live as a piece for a higher dimensional being? I'm not really so naive as to think I can overthrow my master but I kind of don't want to be an edgy jerk.

>> No.19021881

Satoko is a kid! What a loser! She's an unemployed virgin!

>> No.19021884

>>19021881
Same

>> No.19021888

>>19021842

>Otherwise, girls and boys in elementary school would be indistinguishable from each other if they wear the same clothes and a wig.

True. My 16 yo trap loving self was desperate for cute femboys back in school and I never found even one.

>> No.19021891

>>19021851
Because you are a pervert

>> No.19021899

>>19021881
Me too!

>> No.19021905

>>19020132
He was a CPS worker. That's how he nailed Satoko's suffering with abuse/self blame in Higurashi.

>> No.19021910

>>19021851
She acts like she's 5 and doesn't even know what she's screeching about. Low functioning autists are literally animals. I bet you wouldn't give a shit about her if she wasn't cute.

>> No.19021917

>>19020132
He's a KEY fan. He probably wanted to deconstruct the "uguu girl" trope by giving her a realistic reason for repeating nonsense words like a retard.

>> No.19022038

Krauss.

>> No.19022101

>>19021917
Mothers beating the shit out of their uguu daughters for being retarded should become a mandatory trope

>> No.19022117

>>19022038
moon?

>> No.19022200

No one in the 07thExpansion universe shall be referred to as a 'loli'.

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Mod: When The Seacats Cry

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>>19022264

>> No.19023060

>>19022264
>>19022276
Who was in the wrong

>> No.19023179

Daily reminder that Natsuhi is the best and coolest and most underrated umineko character and her actions, however evil, were totally understandable and it's Kinzo's fault

>> No.19023302

>>19023179
how dare Kinzo give her a baby since she make have one herself

Any adoptive mom who has a mental breakdown and throw their adopted child from a cliff are justified to do so, even if they are an innocent baby.

Natsuhi totally did nothing wrong and is 200% understandable, not a complete nutjob with psychotic mental breakdowns

>> No.19023318

>>19023302
"Hey I know you're struggling with extreme depression and anguish at being unable to concieve, so here's my incest rape baby! Now take care of it well!"

>> No.19023387 [DELETED] 

>>19023318
Just aim bro

>> No.19023391

>>19023179
Daily reminder that Eva's a better character.

>> No.19023469

>>19023391
not really a surprise with the screentime she has

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>>19023179
>>19023391
>>19022264
Deja vu

>> No.19023612

>>19023179
Natsuhi is pure and innocent!

>> No.19023812

>>19023179
Daily reminder that Rosa is the best mom and the most badass/coolest aunt

>> No.19023842

How do fags that say Sayo didn't have a split personality but had alter egos defend against red truths that state Shannon or Kanon were killed? Alter egos aren't considered separate people nor are they something you kill.

>> No.19024181

>>19023842
The 'trick' is allowed because it was set-up in the narrative over and over and over again. Kinzo was even used as a template.

Yasu certainly had split personalities, even if she was aware of how they worked. I don't even like calling Yasu "Sayo" because by the time of the events they had completely pushed 'Sayo' into 'Shannon' and was no longer anyone other than Kanon, Shannon, and Beatrice.

What I love best about the trick is that you can use the Golden Truth to declared "The culprit was certainly the witch Beatrice." and it be a valid statement. The only reason Beato isn't on the island is because Yasu set her up as a non-human on the gameboard.

>> No.19024479

Back after an 8 year break from uminekos. How did Yasu manage to fool everyone into believing she was 2 different people. Did they know but not care?

>> No.19024563

>>19024479
Only the family and Gohda were fooled since they didnt pay much attention to the servants, especially when Nanjo, Genji and Kumasawa supported the deception. Kanon didn't arrive until after Yasu became the new head and could do as they pleased.

Wigs and crossdressing coupled with a complete change in personality is surprisingly effective because the alternative is unthinkable. Any resemblance in the face to each other was probably passed off as them being related before they went to the orphanage, although being half Italian you would think they their hafu features would really stand out.

>> No.19024629

>>19024563
I forgot but did Kanon and Shannon both work everyday? I know other servants would rotate and some would leave the island. So I don't know if that made it easier for Sayo to play both parts.

>> No.19024661

>>19024629
Yeah, to keep up the charade they would pull double shifts. Although Genji would tweak the schedule to keep it possible. Not like they had anything better to do in their free time other than write scenario bottles.

>> No.19024675

>>19024661
I just imagine Shannon/Kannon working all day and then Beatrice stays up all night pulling different pranks. All to have to get up in just a couple hours and work again. Its so cute.

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does anyone have the higurashi backgrounds (the blurred photos) saved without any sprites ontop? in particular the ones at the dump, i need them to make something cute.

>> No.19024753

>>19024705
I want to dress up as Rika and Satoko with an anon and live in a cute shack in the inaka!

>> No.19024762

>>19024705
I'm late to my Dr's appointment because I was uploading this.

https://mega.nz/#F!pLgEHbSS!qI-JPkSpO8TBFVix0Hxcfw

>> No.19024771

>>19024762
>https://mega.nz/#F!pLgEHbSS!qI-JPkSpO8TBFVix0Hxcfw

bless you anon, i'll make something cute in honor of your sacrifice

>> No.19024813

Sevensu Ekisupanshon.

>> No.19024878

>>19015361
>this many replies
Why?

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>>19024705

>> No.19025524

>>19015361
Is she gonna piss in fire?

>> No.19025904

>>19008993
I'm not sure any hints can make up for the "beat bernkastel with the power of love" thing.

>> No.19025912

Make a new thread?

>> No.19025970

>>19025904
But she didn't beat Bernkastel with the power of love. Ep 8 was about Ange fighting with her own self not anything which is why Bern as an actress who represent harsh truth wasn't able to beat Ange who already accept and confront it

In Umineko, the fight always symbolism some idea. That is also why beato wouldn't able to torture Battler's Endless Nine in Ep. 3, once he decided to ignored all magic and pretend like it never happen

>> No.19025985

>>19025970
I would add that Ep. 8 was written by Ikuko with the help of Tohya to bring Ange tale to the end. Also actual Bern (who's Ikuko's cat) wasn't really being defeated by Ange, it's Bern on the Beato's gameboard who being defeated

>> No.19025987

>>19025970
>But she didn't beat Bernkastel with the power of love.
Yes she did, instead of coming up with logical solutions to solve the problems Ange just wen "lmao red text doesn't work if the power of love denies it!". Hence why people were pissed, they don't care what "symbolism" excuses you come up with, it doesn't give you a pass to leave crime stories unsolved.

In fact Ryukishi addressed that and admitted he pissed off his audience a month after it came out in "Our Confession". So I don't know why are you trying to defend him when he himself admitted it.

It's also weird how he constantly mentions Knox and Van Dine's rules as tools for the characters to use as "weapons" when he himself breaks them, like making the servants the criminals.

>> No.19025998

>>19025987
>leave crime stories unsolved

Even though you were told the answers to both the forgeries and the real incident in the same episode?

>> No.19026023

>>19025998
I don't recall anywhere saying how EP1-7 happened, turns out it was all a dickless tranny psycho that we didn't know about until ep7 masquerading as 3 other people, which is also breaking one of Van Dine's rules. But the power of love thing I'm mentioning is the battle against Bern specifically, she didn't counter her arguments like Battler did with Erika, she just brushed them aside.

>> No.19026051

wasn't there a hint about an umineko episode 9 coming out or am I remembering something wrong?

>> No.19026055

>>19026023
>I don't recall anywhere saying how EP1-7 happened
Episode 7 gives you the answers to the gameboards, and the tea party gives you the answer to the actual incident.

>turns out it was all a dickless tranny psycho that we didn't know about until ep7 masquerading as 3 other people
Interesting, because people guessed as much as early as 2008, and the hints are all over the place if you actually bother to reread it

>> No.19026057

>>19026023
Will solves everything in episode 7 you retarded speedreader
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRyGKR3R5bs

>> No.19026071

>>19025987
>lmao red text doesn't work if the power of love denies it!
Can you give me any Bern's red truth that is NOT effective and i would say why it would make sense if you interpret in the context of story

>they don't care what "symbolism" excuses you come up with
Ignore the context of story and whining about solution. People could be that dumb sometimes

>leave crime stories unsolved
Wat ??????? Umineko mystery was SOLVED in the end

>> No.19026095

>>19025987
>like making the servants the criminals.
But the culprit wasn't a servant, they were the heir of the ushiromiya family/a witch. And there's no rule saying servants can't be accomplices.

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IF IT DOESN'T SPELL ALL THE ANSWERS OUT CLEALRLY FOR ME IN BIG RED TEXT IT'S SHIT

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>>19026095
You can even go as far as to say the culprit wasn't any of those either. The gameboards were forgeries.

>> No.19026120

>>19025987
There is no rule saying that a servant can't be the culprit, even if we ignore that she's not really a servant.

The Van Dine rules almost never apply to Umineko, and that one certainly doesn't. The series shits all over Van DIne from the start. Did you forget about the cigarette stuf in EP3?

>> No.19026123

>>19026103
>y-y-y-you just don't get it!
How come Battler managed to defeat Erika without any of this apparent "hidden symbolism answer" bullshit and pleased people with concise arguments?

Dude, RYUKISHI ADMITTED IT. What more do you want? You're defending a lost cause. The answers didn't come until after the episode came out because he knew he fucked up and the shit he pulled wouldn't work with anyone but his most fervent defenders (i.e you).

>> No.19026130

>>19026123
At that point, the purpose of the story was shifted and the narrative was reflecting something else. And yes, we did get the answers before then, but you're conveniently ignoring all posts that tell you that.

>> No.19026131

>>19025987
>admitted he pissed off his audience a month after it came out in "Our Confession".

It actually just some retard audience who don't pay attetion to the story and whining about how he didn't give the solution blatantly when it's pretty damn clear that he DID already gave it.

>It's also weird how he constantly mentions Knox and Van Dine's rules as tools for the characters to use as "weapons" when he himself breaks them, like making the servants the criminals.

There's no any Knox's rules that said servants couldn't be criminal. However there's for Van Dine's rules but Umineko mystery story didn't followed Van Dine but only Knox's laws also like >19026095 said it still works even if you take that servant rule into consideration, also Yasu didn't really murder anyone in real world. Ushiromiyas family killed themself. Other kakera are basically fanfiction by him

>> No.19026184

>>19026123

>RYUKISHI ADMITTED IT. What more do you want? You're defending a lost cause. The answers didn't come until after the episode came out because he knew he fucked up
Can you just stop pulling the "opinion that pretend to be fact" out of your ass? As someone who followed almost all of his interview, the only thing he really said about Umineko ep 8 was that manga was also canon answer by him. He never implied that he don't proud of his own works. Could you just give me the source that implied he thought he fucked up about Umineko.

>the shit he pulled wouldn't work with anyone but his most fervent defenders

How could it not be work with anyone if there's a "defenders" if anything the people who thought it works and actually don't ignore the context of story have way far more than people who whining about it

>> No.19026218

>>19026123
I suggest trying to re-read Umineko. You'll see that the answers were there in the VN all along, and all the mysteries and themes were foreshadowed from the very beginning.

>> No.19026250

>>19026130
>At that point, the purpose of the story was shifted and the narrative was reflecting something else
The purpose of the story was defeating bernkastel, this was not achieved and instead we got a cop out, Ryukishi admitted he pissed off people with this, please stop making shit up to defend him.

>>19026055
>>19026057
Excuse me, did I not mention the answers in my post? Why would you think I'm not talking about EP7 if EP7 is where I got it from? I'm saying that making up a character 6 episodes later to explain what happened in EP1 and subsequent episodes is not good writing and breaks one of the rules Ryukishi was seemingly so fanatical about.
>Interesting, because people guessed as much as early as 2008, and the hints are all over the place if you actually bother to reread it
I don't recall anyone EVER saying those 3 people were all the same, otherwise /jp/ wouldn't have been furious when that answer actually came out back then and claiming Ryukishi was a hack fraud making shit up. It wasn't just /jp/ either, the japanese audience thought it too and EP8 is the worst received episode to date in some japanese VN database that was posted at the time.

>>19026095
Yasu was a servant though, regardless of his true status, it was a servant nonetheless and worked as one for years to boot. Not to mention even then, just because the servants' true identity wasn't someone who deserved to be a servant doesn't change the fact that it is a servant.
>>19026111
But it doesn't matter that the gameboards were fictitious in-universe, they are still crime stories made by Ryukishi for the reader to solve so by all means the rules and standards still apply.
>>19026120
But Will himself uses Van Dine's rules? Why would Ryukishi go ahead and ignore them?

>>19026131
When in the history of ever has "it's not badly written the audience just didn't get it, that's why they didn't like it!" worked as a valid excuse and not a way to make you look pretentious and defensive? Can you imagine if the great classics of mystery pulled this kind of shit? Actually some of them did and they were torn apart by famous writers anyhow.

>>19026184
My bad, it's not in "Our Confession" that the interview is in, but again doesn't the manga retcon ep8 somewhat? How can both be canon then?

>>19026218
Well I'm sure it's easy to say that when you already know the answer so you can try and explain yourself how does each gameboard FIT into the answer. And a good twist would make you realize that (eg the twist at the end of Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei giving reason to all those weird scenes that hinted at something) but the reason I'm saying it doesn't apply to Umineko is because I don't recall anyone ever noticing that those 3 characters were the same, which would also explain why the internet was steaming when it was actually revealed, I don't recall anyone saying then "it was there all along I told you so". The warosu archive goes back to 2008 so you can prove me wrong.

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>>19026250
>The purpose of the story was defeating bernkastel
anon...

>> No.19026294

>>19026250
The character wasn't made up, it was there to begin with and hinted about since the early episodes. People caught on to this in 2008 before EP5 even came out

>I don't recall anyone EVER saying those 3 people were all the same
Then you weren't actually here. Everybody was furious because they were mad that that theory was proven correct. They, and I included, were all young and weren't actually paying attention to the story and held onto the hope that something different would be pulled out of thin air without noticing the blatant hints in 2-4. There were only two prevailing theories at the time of EP7 to explain the logic error. Shkannon and Erika Ball.

>> No.19026346

>>19026218
eh, you can get the answers for the "big stuff", but I don't see how you could be sure about, say, ep 4.

also, the whole "you have everything to deduce the truth" really only works if you can ensure
a) that the whole thing doesn't actually have flaws (and Umineko definitely isn't perfect)
b) any unreliable narration is able to be clearly resolved

>>19026250
later on people definitely knew about shkanon

>> No.19026353

>>19026250
>The warosu archive goes back to 2008 so you can prove me wrong.
Have you tried checking archives for /a/ as well?

>> No.19026389

>>19026353
He doesn't even need to, it's all on warosu and he can easily search it. Pony theory was in 2008, but I'm struggling to find it right now. OP was something along the lines of "umineko is actually a love story".

>> No.19026405

>>19023318
Except she didn't even know about that

>> No.19026429

>>19026389
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/24652921

It was actually on /a/ and in 2009. This is the first thread.

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>>19026389
I have this image saved.

>> No.19026473

And here we can see Shkanontrice was being discussed on /jp/ in 2009

>>/jp/?task=search2&ghost=yes&search_text=shkanontrice&search_subject=&search_username=&search_tripcode=&search_email=&search_filename=&search_datefrom=&search_dateto=&search_op=all&search_del=dontcare&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=old&search_capcode=all&search_res=post

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Finally have an excuse to post this again

>> No.19026513

>>19026250
>>19026130
>The purpose of the story was defeating bernkastel, this was not achieved and instead we got a cop out, Ryukishi admitted he pissed off people with this, please stop making shit up to defend him.
Jesus did we read the same story? please stop making shit up to offense him, he pissed off some people is true but there's nothing about his interview ever implied he don't proud of his work and think it's shit

>Excuse me, did I not mention the answers in my post? Why would you think I'm not talking about EP7 if EP7 is where I got it from? I'm saying that making up a character 6 episodes later to explain what happened in EP1 and subsequent episodes is not good writing and breaks one of the rules Ryukishi was seemingly so fanatical about.
In what way s not a good writing? it works perfectly as build up to the msytery and message of the story and no it didn't make any rules

>Yasu was a servant though, regardless of his true status, it was a servant nonetheless and worked as one for years to boot. Not to mention even then, just because the servants' true identity wasn't someone who deserved to be a servant doesn't change the fact that it is a servant.
>But it doesn't matter that the gameboards were fictitious in-universe, they are still crime stories made by Ryukishi for the reader to solve so by all means the rules and standards still apply.
>But Will himself uses Van Dine's rules? Why would Ryukishi go ahead and ignore them?

Will uses that Van Dine's rules in different story. Dlanor already said in Ep. 5 that Knox and van Dine were the tool. Not something that every mysteries need to be followed. In Umineko case, it only followed Knox. Also Van Dine's rules only for ep. 7 not before that. So the rule and standard didn't really apply to the story. And no Yasu is techinally not servant anymore after he was acknowledge by Kinzo regardless of how many years he works for that. It's only works if the rules said that "the culprit couldn't be servant" since he's not. Van Dine didn't applied to Umineko anyways so it pointless

>When in the history of ever has "it's not badly written the audience just didn't get it, that's why they didn't like it!" worked as a valid excuse and not a way to make you look pretentious and defensive?
Except that the majority of audience did get it and when in the history of ever has "it's badly written because I want it to be so I ignored what make have been foreshadowed and written in the story" works as a valid criticism. I agreed it didn't works as excuse neither it need to have an excuse. There's nothing pretentious and defensive about saying the fact that the story implied

>Can you imagine if the great classics of mystery pulled this kind of shit? Actually some of them did and they were torn apart by famous writers anyhow.
Why cared about other mystery works? Umineko is unique work on it own. It did that and perfectly make sense in the metafiction. That's all matter

>My bad, it's not in "Our Confession" that the interview is in, but again doesn't the manga retcon ep8 somewhat? How can both be canon then?
There's no contradict in manga and VN. The manga just explored it in more depth

>And a good twist would make you realize that (eg the twist at the end of Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei giving reason to all those weird scenes that hinted at something) but the reason I'm saying it doesn't apply to Umineko is because I don't recall anyone ever noticing that those 3 characters were the same, which would also explain why the internet was steaming when it was actually revealed, I don't recall anyone saying then "it was there all along I told you so".
So they have to blantantly told you in order to works? the whole Shakanon was foreshadowed and have been there since the beginning to the point that there's no other solution that could fit into it beside Shakanon itself. And don't mix your own opinion with the audience and said they doesn't realise that if they doesn't really realised that there's would be no Umineko fanbase to begin with. Also Umineko DID implied all reason to all scene that hinted.

>> No.19026533

>>19026487
Except that there's no Shakanontricefag but only people who accept the fact that authors said

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>>19026513
>Will uses that Van Dine's rules in different story.
He actually does use some of them against the goats in the manga

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>> No.19026582

>>19026513
I don't really understand why that anon really try hard to stated his opinion as substitute as the whole readers. There's so many fictions that were heavily criticism when it first came but being held later as great work and ahead of it time like Blade Runner, 2001, Fight Club or Vertigo.

What people think about it when it first came out doesn't mean shit. What matter the most is that Umineko is one of the most critical acclaim and highly regard VN these days. And the whole loyal fandom and this thread that still talk about it is the proof that it stand out the test of time

>> No.19026589

>>19026562
FUCKING MOON-CHAN

>> No.19026593

>>19026561
He used it as a "weapon" toward goats though also it later wasn't affected when Goat refuse it's not the same kind of story. Like I said mystery law were a tool but not something necessary to followed or used all the time

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Serious question why adult Hanyuu look so goddamn flat in this scene

>> No.19026877

>>19026250
pinacle of autism.

>> No.19026886

>>19026250
Nips solved umineko by EP3, are you a newfag or just a mad rosatricefag who can't face the truth? god this is worst than ange bullying

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>>19024762
This pic scares me.

>> No.19026899

>>19026634
She looks anorexic.

>> No.19026916

>>19026250
Will uses the servant rule as red truth in a completely unrelated murder case. When he tries to use them against Bern, he gets destroyed and has to run away without an arm. Although that was probably because he tried to apply fiction rules to the truth.

>> No.19026936

>>19026250
Jokronono and Newt solved Umineko pretty early on. The hints are all there.

>> No.19026949

>>19026582
I mean, even I was a hater at one point.
Now I just regret, after a good reread that proved me quite wrong, not to mention the manga (further "explicitizing" the whole thing.

>> No.19026975

>>19026634
I can't believe a girl as cute and innocent as Hanyuu actually has an ass crack! Lewd!

>> No.19026979

>>19026889
That's the male Oyashiro-sama from Bus Stop. Pretty fucking scary.

>> No.19026985

>>19026562
Good old times

>> No.19027010

>>19026936
They got pretty obviously spoiled from what I could see.

They in fact stayed in that mentality without ever go doubting other the tons of other stuff, a normal sign somebody told them the answers beforehand.

Umineko only becomes actually obvious in a reread, like a good mystery does.

The jap community didn't just came up with Skannon and went with that, there were some people who pointed it out as a possibility, and they weren't ever absolutely sure until Episode 6 came and straight confirmed it.

It's not like "it was common knowledge". There was quite a community effort behind it, and they arguably theorized more than us in the west.

These youtubers don't fool anyone if they don't go through suspecting literally every single person up to EP5, like 99,9% of the first time readers did when there wasn't a possibility of getting spoiled.

Blind runs, especially the ones with chat, are just some of those it's very hard to believe they did not spoiled themselves.

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And so the redemption re-read begins. I hope in this re-read I can lay the demons to rest, and hopefully convey my sincerest apologies to R07, who I shitposted a lot after not liking the second arc.

The wind kicks in when Kinzo calls for Beatrice. Whether this is to illustrate her absence(most likely), or to tie into Duncan's insane THE WIND IS A CHARACTER, is anyone's guess.

>> No.19027441

>>19027398
Make sure to solve the mystery of who ate Hideyoshiのcandies.

>> No.19027453

>>19027398
"Goats reread Seacats" is pretty useful to read along with it.

>Battler grabs Kanon by the collar in the kitchen scene
>A few scenes later
>"Before the day ends, I'll grab the culprit by the collar!!! Uuuuoooooooohhh!!!"

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If this is truly my redemption story, then the images must be as they were so many years ago

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Best girl appears.

Anyways, I wonder if it's intention that Battler wears the cross of Saint Peter, or in other words, an inverted cross.

Could be a good thing, could be a bad thing. Depends on how you view it it's a sign of christian humility or Satanic in nature.

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So I have to Kaibryid version of Higurashi, and I have been playing up to part 5 without auto scroll working. How do I fix it? It's too painful at this point

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>>19027529
Meanwhile we see Kyrie - whose name is Christian as fuck by nature - wear her cross on her tie the normal way.

Is Battler's inverted cross meant to link him to Kyrie, yet also oppose him to her? Who knows!

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>and the older sister who could deal out punishment to him despite his size
;_;7

>> No.19027715

I just watched an old movie about a loli who pretends she's a witch to take advantage of her naive rich friend and blackmail her into giving her anything she wants. She's like Maria, except Maria wasn't a sociopathic bully asshole. The ending is really shocking and unexpected. I didn't expect THAT to happen, what the fuck. It made me feel depressed as shit for a few days. I'm not going to spoil it.

It's pretty good and the girls are cute. I'll post the link here if anyone is interested.

>> No.19027731

>>19027715
Color me interested, give the name, anon

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>>19027558
I don't know if you read the earlier threads, but definitely keep the sorts of things I've been telling you in mind and see how pervasive it all is. The eastern magics, creators/witches/sea of nothingness (sunyata), further Dantean allusions (the golden land as paradise with the end of beatific vision), occultism as a low magic catalyst for high magic (bringing the magician to his headspace), Zhuangzi golden butterflies, willpower as human magic, metafiction not as a given (don't forget we're voyagers), whatever else....

Might talk about some new stuff soon too which'll be nice to resume.

>> No.19027757

>>19027741
Well, I guess these threads will turn out to be interesting again, if you guys will be going with that kind of analysis and a reread.

I was getting tired of the lewdposting, so I guess this is heaven.

>> No.19027809

>>19027757
I'm doing it as redemption, but I'll try to bring more heavy analysis and commentary. I'll even entertain alternate theories.

Lambda Anon will help with all the magic stuff. Gonna be a long ride, but hopefully we'll all be better off for it.

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The absolute madman. Maybe I'm seeing brilliance where it ain't, but this seems like foreshadowing the wonderful world of the Beato family tree.

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Self explanatory really - Maria's name has a cross in it, thus strengthening her to the Virgin Mary and creation.

>> No.19027859

>>19021719
What the fuck is a "meltdown"? Does that girl literally melt into a puddle like Alex Mack?

>> No.19027869

>>19015361
Your cousin looks pretty damn cute.

What is it about slav females that makes them so perfect?

>> No.19027875

>>19027846
your redemption was pretty quick if you went from hate to "he's brilliant" just from this
at this rate I'm afraid your mind won't be able to withstand episode 2 foreshadowing

>> No.19027901

>>19027875
I never once hated R07. My sin is not appreciating him as much as I should.

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Superflous detail everyone knows - Battler gets motion-sickness quite easily.

>> No.19028101

This thread has been at the very bottom of page 10 for the past 3+ hours.

>> No.19028112

>>19015361
Wow, is that a human girl? Lewd! Where did you find it?

>> No.19028165

>>19028101
Welcome to /jp/

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Sonozaki Mii-chan's Miraculous Love-Love Adventure 7: Success Chapter

>> No.19028683

>>19028635
!!!!

>> No.19029038

真里亞がサメにたべられた。

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