DJT - Daily Japanese Thread #1915

[Anonymous No.]

This thread is for the discussion and learning of the Japanese language for people who want to consume untranslated otaku media.
If you have no interest in otaku media or want to request a translation, this is not the thread for you.

Read the Guide linked below before asking how to learn Japanese:
http://djtguide.neocities.org/
Check the Cornucopia of Resources before asking where to download X or Y:
https://djtguide.neocities.org/cor.html

Previous thread: >>18809875

[Anonymous No.]

おはようおにいちゃん

おげんきですか

[Anonymous No.]

乙

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>learning Japanese to be able to read this one visual novel
>found out it had a manga adaptation
>the manga is scanlated
Fuck, now I have to resist going there

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>its an anon posts in all kana without kanji episode

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>>18819730
what is the source for this image

Reverse image searching a reaction pic only leads to other websites/blogs using the reaction picture.

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チポｗｗｗ

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>>18819723
>find out an old image I used to wank it to as a wee lad is actually CG from an エロゲ
I get the hardest nostalgia boner every time I think about being able to wank to it. It makes me want to say fuck it and just do it already but I know I'll enjoy it 1000 times more if I wait until I can read it completely without interruption. Don't give into temptation, stay strong, it'll be worth it.

>>18819788
https://vndb.org/v1181

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>>18819797
>https://vndb.org/v1181
...turns out all I have to do is just type ほんとうにあたまはだいじょうぶですか into google and the very first answer is literally that. Fuck me, I haven't been long enough here.

Thanks, anon.

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>>18819809
Yeah I just hit the reverse image search button and got https://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1239847442 as the first answer. You were probably searching for the thumbnail or something.

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>>18819793
When nips use w or www is it supposed to mean something or is it just an emoticon

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>>18819825
w for 笑

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>>18819842
So www is basically their version of lol?

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>>18819853
there is also things like
笑
わろた
草

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>>18819853
抱腹絶倒

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>>18819856
also 爆笑

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>>18819862
>抱腹絶倒
Is this

Is this rofl

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6 words I learned yesterday, rate me japanese.
根方
謹直
処決
使嗾
順良
好逑

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>>18819899
You're annoying

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>>18819907
It's the first time I post this.

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>>18819909
Your English is terrible, learn that first.

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>>18819879
滑稽ですね(⌒▽⌒)

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>>18819914
Enough to mock you, turds.

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>>18819932
Terrible enough to mock someone? If you speak such a poor quality of any language that you don't get your point across clearly then no, it's not enough.

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いいかDJTちゃん、知らない人はついていちゃダメだぞ、いいものあげるとか/jp/ちゃんが呼んでるとか言われても。その人は悪い人かもしれない。

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>>18819969
>If you speak such a poor quality of any language
You're not too hot yourself, bud.

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>>18819982
Except that's proper syntax. Though done rarely, quality can be used as such.

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>>18819899
>>18819907
>>18819909
>>18819914
>>18819932
>>18819969
>>18819982
>>18819995
>Daily english thread

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グラボがないと

げえむができないとおもう

でもたかい

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>浮気
I didn't know you could have both na adjective & verbal noun in one.

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>>18820251
いつごろからつかわれたことばなのか

ふるいほんではでてこないよ

だから

くっつきかたも

あたらしいんだとおもう

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anyone at this level here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYb5o2lewkY

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>>18820446
I still couldn't make sense when people talked about numbers in Japanese. Like I could surmise from the 生まれて that he's talking about birth year, but the actual numbers escape my comprehension.

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>>18820446
コリアンのたんご

にほんのはつおんといみがそのまま

のたんごがおおいから

しゅうとくはやいよ

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>>18820251
しらべようとしたんだけど

ぐーぐるせんせいがおしえてくれなかった

あたしのしっているかぎり

古文では

おとこは夜這

おんなは情事

江戸の末期には

おとこのは不義

おんなのは密通

明治ごろから

おとこは姦通

おんなは姦通・密通

大正のころから

おとこは不倫

おんなは不倫

昭和のころから

おとこは浮気

おんなは浮気

いまはなんだろう

浮気ってあんまりいわないよ

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>>18820565
死ねこの野郎

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How do I know if I'm using Anki correctly?

As long as I'm not fucking up again/good/easy and I'm choosing the right option, I should be alright?

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>齊
>means "uniformity"
>Isn't actually uniform

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>>18820593
でも夜這いはしてみたいんでしょう？

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Is Yomichan not working for anyone else?
I tried turning it off and on in all ways I could think of and now I'm all out of tricks to try, please help I'm scared and worried

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>>18820643
Go back to copying things to Jisho or EBWin, anon. Get used to the hassle again, so next time you come across a new word you'll try your hardest to remember them.

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>>18820670
but i need it to smoothly masturbate to the new image + story of my favorite pixiv artist

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>>18820712
Ok I noticed that for some reason the dictionary data removed itself, I struggled with the add-on by forcing the dictionary data back in and ignoring any error it gave me.
Now it works.

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I still have trouble telling さ from ち quickly
How long does it take to fix this? I've been reading for about a month and a half

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>>18820782
What are you even reading? That's hiragana you are having trouble with

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>>18820810
I know it's hiragana you baka. I'm saying I still take longer than usual to determine whether さ is "sa" or "chi", same with ち.
Reading yotsubato, don't think that matters though.

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>>18820821
I still mistook 左 with 右 and I've been reading for a month, so my hope is that it will all make sense in the future.

I still mistook adept with inept sometimes, so maybe it'll never disappear.

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>>18820852
you are adept at being inept in Japanese
you are inept at being adept in Japanese
hey, it works both ways
can you at least easily tell apart ツ and ツ?

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>>18820863
>ツ and ツ
They're the same.

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>>18820863
>can you at least easily tell apart ツ and ツ?
You can't trick me, oniichan. Both are つ

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>>18820852
さ-ゆう
左-右
left-right

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>>18820919
Whenever I have to remember them, what I do is lift my left arm, say 左 out loud, then lift my right arm, and say 右 out loud. Repeat this for five times.

I'm retardedと思ったけど, 覚えられた.

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>>18820936
This is what I have done. Eventually I started doing the arm movement in my head until I could distinguish them both easily.

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>>18820782
がっこうでは

つかわないよ

にほんではこっちでかくほうがおおいよ

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anyone here tried bacopa monnieri herbs

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Anyone here ゲイ

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>>18821265
あたしです

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I can't learn japanese, but I've sunk too much time in it at this point to give up.

Why didn't I listen to her.

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>>18821265
僕はロリコン

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>>18821366

If you don't give up, you'll learn Japanese.

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>>18821381
I mean there are people that have persisted for years yet still can't learn japanese
Ever heard of mattvsjapan?

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Can someone help me make sense of this sentence structure of the first half? Hints to which grammar this uses would already help, I'm completely lost with this.

>今の形の日本刀が生まれた時代の刀剣である『小烏丸』は
>刀剣の祖先である自分をじっちゃんとして敬意を払えとかなんとか俺に言ってくる。

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>>18821371
>僕

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>>18821393

I have faith in anon.

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>>18821399
儂はチ●コをしゃぶりたい!

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>>18821397
Are you just confused because of the run-on sentence or is there any actual grammar that you can't understand

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYb5o2lewkY
Another example of AJATT working.
ajatt and matt not memrise and nuke okay god bless

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Reading All The Time And Taking Amphetamines aka RATTATA

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>>18821435
I still couldn't make sense when people talked about numbers in Japanese. Like I could surmise from the 生まれて that he's talking about birth year, but the actual numbers escape my comprehension.

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>>18821435
Already posted >>18820446
No need to shill it again, matt

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>>18821265
わたしは結構ゲイ

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Posting anything related to AJATT or MattVsJapan should be a bannable offence.

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agreed but stop whining

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>>18821397
今の形の日本刀が生まれた時代の刀剣 ≒ 今の形の日本刀が生まれた時代に作られた刀剣

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>>18821397
[[[今の形の日本刀]　が生まれた時代]　の刀剣]である --modifies-->『小烏丸』 は、
(『小烏丸』, a sword which was made in the era when Nihontou(Japanese sword) with the same shape as the present day was born)

「[刀剣の祖先である自分]をじっちゃんとして敬意を払え」とかなんとか 俺に言ってくる。

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>>18821397
if youre "completely" lost on anything its time to choose material more suitable for your level

here let me help https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AKDApA7lN4

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AJATT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>18821498
even patchy understands the importance of AJATT, why don't you DJT????

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>>18821479
>>18821483
Thank, helped a lot.
>>18821494
It's normally a comfy SoL manga, just throws complicated history stuff in there from time to time.

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>>18821549
>comfy SoL manga,
what's the manga?

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isnt it basically hypocrisy to post ajatt in this thread because youre not ajatting

どけどけー リアルニンジャス通りまーす

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyiUcrIGY-w

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>sleep 1 (ONE) hour less than usual
>retention rate drops by 25%
How is it even fucking possible? It happens every time too, like a cloud of mist in my mind prohibiting me from remembering anything

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>>18821556
Touken Ranbu anthologies.

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What is your approach to memorizing new cards in Anki? Is reading the card and repeating it to yourself enough for you? I find I need to write the characters down at least 7-10 times each to even vaguely remember then the next day.

Also, how long do you spend on each new card before moving onto the next?

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>>18821628
who cares if you forget some shit you learned out of context you dont know it anyway

>>18821636
the best approach is to stop wasting your time on flashcards because they dont teach you anything you just remember a word or whatever out of context and have no idea how it fits into the actual language which is effectively no different than what goes on with shit like remembering the kanji

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>>18821680
What an unexpected reply. Who could have possibly seen this coming? Let me guess, he should "just start reading" while knowing close to 0 words, right?

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>>18821688
absolutely not im not the guy who tells people to do stupid shit

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>>18821636
You're not supposed to remember it right away. Don't worry about it, let SRS do its thing.

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>>18821694
Do you lowercase faggots have a discord or some shit you collude in?

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>>18821702
discord is fucking gay but i dont see the point of your post

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>>18821680
>the best approach is to stop wasting your time on flashcards because they dont teach you anything you just remember a word or whatever out of context and have no idea how it fits into the actual language which is effectively no different than what goes on with shit like remembering the kanji
You're completely fucking missing the point of flashcards you 頭悪い
The point is to recognize the words, not learn how they're used. You learn the latter when you read, but you need to be able to recognize the word in the first place or otherwise you're going nowhere you dumbshit.

>>18821694
>im not the guy who tells people to do stupid shit
The evidence doesn't support your claim

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>>18821709
Majority of shitty posts in these threads are by lowercase faggots such as yourself. I was just wondering if there is some sort of organized collusion going on or if you all just pretend (?) to be retarded of your own accord.

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After listening to NHK news podcasts for a couple weeks during my commute, my listening has gotten a lot better.
I didn't understand shit at first but I got used to speed and format of the speakers pretty quickly.
I passed the N2 last December, so anyone around my level should try it out sometime.
>tfw listening to a story about a Jap police officer shooting someone and everyone is freaking out about it
>tfw this happens in Burgerland everyday and noone gives a shit

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How is ｗｗｗｗｗｗ pronounced?

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>>18820594
Mature retention should end up somewhere around 90% , +/- 5% is fine as well.
If it's higher than that you're either reviewing stuff you really don't need to put into Anki, or you're "cheating" by cramming cards before they're due. While that does increase your retention rate, you're also wasting a lot of time reviewing things you don't need to review yet.
If your retention for mature cards is below 80% in the long term you're doing something something wrong and should look at your learning methods. Anki will still make sure you remember things, but at the cost of a lot more reviews.

This does not apply to "young" and "learning" cards, where the retention rate can be all over the place, so don't worry about that.

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>>18821759
was 頭悪い really the best ammunition you had there surely youve "read" some better casual insults (i read it as a joke but i dont want to give you too much credit)

so you agree that flashcards are not teaching you nihongo and are just another immense waste of time before the actual learning of nihongo part which you could just start with in the first place

>>18821769
whats the difference between a genius and a retard if you cant understand them

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>>18820782
Do you also have trouble telling d and b apart? Learn more words and the other character just won't make sense in that place.

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>>18821812
wait hey how do you get that backwards b

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>>18821805
>which you could just start with in the first place
You always stop here, never elaborating further. How do you read when you know no words? Tell me, please.

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>>18821793
Same way as Japanese people laugh in real life. わわわわわわわわわわ

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>>18821805
>which you could just start with in the first place
Yeah good luck with all those kanjis and words that you don't know. You'll be spending way more time googling than actually reading.

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>>18821829
you probably shouldnt be trying to read if you know 0 words

if you can only circle back to well then i must learn words from flashcards you need to load an earlier save and make sure to trigger the flags for the nihongo route

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>恒久的な平和なんて人類の歴史にはなかった
>だが何十年かの平和で豊かな時代は存在した
>要するに私の希望は、たかだかこの先何十年かの平和なんだ。
>だがそれでも、その十分の一の期間の戦乱に勝ること幾万倍だと思う。
Can anyone help me understand what exactly is being said in the last line? I've tried parsing it every which way and still can't figure it out.

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>>18821812
>Do you also have trouble telling d and b apart?
Actually, yes sometimes. But it's rare and usually only when they're standalone.

>>18821835
I don't think that's how Japanese laugh

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As a beginner, looking up words in a dictionary is such a bother because of all the kanji. Are there any good books/games/comics with furigana for all kanji, not just some of them?

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>>18821867
よつばと！
とらぶるダークネス

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>>18821867
Read VNs, text hook for mouseover lookup.
Mangas are a fucking meme.

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>>18821874
First one has barely any text, the latter is shit.

>>18821875
>mouseover lookup
Explain further, please.

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>>18821867
Yeah, a lot. If you want something with more text than よつばと, try ラブひな.

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>>18821889
Read the guide fucking idiot.

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>>18821889
Never heard of them?
It's a tool for extracting the Japanese text from applications, mainly games and VNs into a textbox where you can mouseover a word for instant dictionary lookup.
Most of them even have parsers which tells you how a verb is conjugated, for example, like past tense, potential, etc.

I'd recommend Chiitrans Lite.

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>>18821835
w is short for 笑う, also they write 笑 or w continuously never わ

>>18821793
http://www.fuzita.org/jpculture/howmanyi/jplaugh.html
a guide to how japanese laugh

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>>18821849
だがそれでも、
（この先何十年かの平和は、）
その十分の一の期間の戦乱よりも、
幾万倍も勝（まさ）っている
と思う。

>勝ること幾万倍(まさること いくまんばい)
= be tens of thousands times better than

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>>18821919
No wonder people looked at me funny when I tried to laugh in Japanese.

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>>18821899
>>18821867
ラブひな sample

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>>18821845
that already goes on with flashcard users apparently see this thread except they dont even make it to the google part they just post here oh look heres another one:

>>18821849
it takes a lot of war for a little peace

its like djt

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>>18819487
I finally "get" sentence mining.

After doing a whole bunch of Pokemon mined vocab (thanks to the anon who recommended that btw) for the past month and a half, I finally have enough words and grammar under my belt where it just "clicks" running sentence cards instead.

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why is there 1 stroke when you write the 'oblong part' of the radical for 'road' and 2 when you write the one for 'stretch' even though the movement seems to be the same? i.e. it's stroke that goes from left to right to left to right just like top of the '乃', so it shouldn't be treated as interruption of flow??? is it just an exception or is there some reason for it?

PS highlighted the parts I meant w/ yellow colour

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What starting ease do you guys have on your anki mining deck?

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>>18822003
250%

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>>18821998

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>>18821997
is Pokemon good? mined vocab for example?

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>>18821997
wait till you upgrade to paragraph mining dude thats the good good

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>>18821997
Sentence cards are more about memorising the sentence than learning the actual contents. They're a waste of time.

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>>18821771
You clearly didn't listen very well.

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>>18822017
why do AJATTers who successfully learned the language recommend them so fiercely? is it their bias or what's up with that?

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>>18822024

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>>18822010
how are these different then?

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>>18821867
僕だけがいない街
It's not a particularly easy read (lot of compound kanji, some crazy hokkaido dialect, occasional furigana that don't directly read the kanji ie translating a name to something like ヤツ, and even some uncommon alternate form kanjis) but all of them do have furigana

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>>18822029
"I did it so it must be part of my success"

[Anonymous No.]

What have you enjoyed reading the most so far?

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>>18822046
It's shit.

[Anonymous No.]

This isn't completely on the topic of learning Japanese but I figure it's the best place to ask on /jp/.

What's the context behind the ＦＦ外から失礼するぞ～ copypasta Japanese peope always post on twitter? Is it considered rude to interact with people you don't follow or know without doing a dumb ritualistic exchange or is it literally just a meme?

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>>18822013
The battle text alone is great for getting used to past tense, transitive vs intransitive verbs, and whatnot.

>ムシトリショウネンが　しょうぶを　しかけてきた！

>ムシトリショウネンは　キャタピーを　くりだした！

>ゆけー、フシギダネ！！！

>てきの　キャタピーの　たいあたり　こうげき！

>フシギダネの　なきごえ　こうげき！

>てきの　キャタピーの　こうげき　さがった！

etc

It is all in kana which sort of sucks, but it makes it easier to actually read as long as you mine your cards in Kanji form.

As for the actual vocabulary... you'll be surprised at what's in there. Definitely mine Gen1/2, as the storylines are simple and not loaded with weird shit.

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今日の暗記は殊にひどい。皆、力を貸して!

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>>18822017
>Sentence cards are more about memorising the sentence than learning the actual contents.
Yeah dude. I've memorized 8300+ sentences but I don't know the actual contents.
...but maybe we're talking about different things. None of my cards have sentence translations and they slowly build on each other introducing one new word at a time. Also, whenever possible, I use a J-J definition on the back.

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>>18822017
Memorizing the sentence isn't really the point, it's more of being consistently exposed to natural, correct sentences and internalizing them so you aren't trying to base all your future output on what you learned from a textbook, which will just make you sound strange forever.

Example - when you hear a cool/unique phrasing in English that sounds good, you can then modify it with different words to make it useful in various situations. As a kid, you did this a LOT when you repeated things you heard on TV/from friends/teachers/your parents/books.

Seeing particles like に used in various contexts, then internalizing them over a long span, is hands-down the best way to figure it out, as opposed to mulling over Tae Kim's guide all day wondering how and when to use it.

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>>18822126
so why flashcards instead of more various contexts

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>>18821913
I'd recommend the one in the guide resource list. The parser in your image will handicap your ability to read kanji without furigana and parse sentences on your own, at least with those features turned on.

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>>18822134
Because if you're in a situation where you don't have a massive amount of free time (studying, working, other hobbies etc.) and can't passively immerse yourself in the language (don't live in Japan), flash cards have time and time again proven itself to be the most time efficient way of practicing for most people.

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>>18822126
>Seeing particles like に used in various contexts, then internalizing them over a long span, is hands-down the best way to figure it out,
I completely agree with you, but for this example, you get more bang out of your buck reading due to the greater variety. Having a collection of flashcards that you see over and over (even if they are in the 1000's) will help you internalize them easier and make things less painful when you're still in the beginning stages (first year or two) of learning this language.
Once you've built a solid base with sentence cards, I feel like vocabulary cards make the most sense in order to save yourself time -- especially for nouns and adjectives that have an obvious use.

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>>18822087
If the person you are replying to isn't on your follow list and they aren't following you, its manners to say that before saying what you have to say.

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>>18822156
citation needed

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>>18822134
You can and should do contexts, but you'll greatly accelerate the internalization process if you commit sentences to flashcards. The point is to do them and reach the point where you no longer need them, at which point you should be able to gain further knowledge purely through context.

If you skip straight from pure vocab to pure context, you're gonna have a rough time because you won't consistently see the same sentence structures to get a "feel" for how things work. Sure, you can do it, but I don't think it's worth it when the gains are so much harder to come by.

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>>18822176
and so you learn one sentence from a flashcard and then it all falls apart in the next

are you going to put every sentence on a flashcard and just stare at them until you magically gain universal understanding? lol

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>>18822156
Even the (competent) people who recommend sentence mining don't recommend using it as a substitute for reading and listening. If you don't have time to read and listen, you don't have time to learn Japanese.

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>>18822171
Not him, but it artificially makes Japanese easier to understand because you know that your cards only contain a limited number of words. This makes reviewing a lot easier and efficient than struggling through a book when you're still in the early stages of acquiring the language.
Obviously it may make you blind to the fact that there are kanji that look similar that you will fuck up once you see them in raw material -- thinking they were something you've seen before, when in realty, it's something new.
>>18822184
Not him -- but I don't think the sentence structures are the problem when reading raw shit, but rather the vocabulary pool.

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>>18822165

The simple fact is, language learning is a lot of "reaching certain points" where things become possible.

I think a lot of the "scary" parts of Kanji and Grammar ought to be tackled a bit after the fact, if that makes sense. It's easier to accept that 大変、大冒険、大手 all have different readings of 大 than to sit someone down and explain that 大 can be read differently beforehand. I also believe that it's easier to accept that certain grammatical things work the way they do after the fact.

I dunno man, people will do what they will. Different methods will work for different people. Our end goals are all similar.

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>>18822247
but we all acquire language the same way so different methods dont work for different people

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>>18821435
I don't understand why these retards make videos of self-introduction. If they actually want to introduce themselves it's better to do with language you know best. If they want to show speaking skills than it can't prove anything because you can memorize a speech like this with flying colors.

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>>18822261
its easy to tell someone who sounds rehearsed from someone who doesnt

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>>18822260
Isn't this guy nukemarine tier?

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>>18822260
youd think hed take his own advice before making all those embarrassing pretentious videos comprised mostly of parroted information none of which pertains to learning nihongo

[Anonymous No.]

>>18822264
Not really if you put a thought into it.

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>>18822260
Didn't know Matt was this much of a hypocrite

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>>18822282
and you think a guy speaking a language hes relatively new to is gonna do that

[Anonymous No.]

>>18822279
but he has already reached fluency in Japanese so he has a right to talk based on his own advice
what's your point?

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>>18822304
>but he has already reached fluency
Stopped reading here

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>>18822294
No, I'm just saying that these videos are pointless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18822311
So are you really saying he's not fluent at Japanese which constitutes of being able to comprehend written and spoken word and being able to write out stuff?

[Anonymous No.]

if a (white) guy is early 20s balding didnt grow up in japan and has a wall in his room with manga all over it should you really be taking japanese from him?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18822316
Well I guess N5-kuns are fluent now

[Anonymous No.]

>>18822324
fluent =/= native

>>18822317
what does being bald have to do with it?
I have 10/10 hair and still cannot speak fluent Japanese like 99% of /jp/

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>>18821998
>>18822035
someone can help me with this please?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18822340
>fluent =/= native
What are you even trying to say with this you fucking faggot retard? Speak clearly, cunt.

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>>18822345
dont FUCKING worry about it

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>>18822346
that seems pretty obvious and clear what it means dude

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>>18822346
Matt is fluent in every sense of the word - he doesn't have to >>18822317 to be considered fluent
being fluent doesn't mean you have to be as good as the natives

PS don't get so exasperated because someone is better than you at the language

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>>18822354
Not as clear as your jizz you fucking sissy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18822345
It just isn't that important to worry about, man. Way too much arbitrary shit going on in the language to spend energy beyond an initial reaction on stuff like that.

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>>18822184
>see a word you've studied before
>"wow it's [word]! Cool I know what it is!
>see a sentence pattern you've studied before
>"oh cool I don't have to think about what all this shit means because I'm familiar with this pattern and can now simply get the meaning of the sentence instead of asking /jp/ what these particles mean here"

Pro tip - there are far fewer sentence patterns/structures than there are words/Kanji. In order to get a "feel" for how they work, you have to see them used in the same CORRECT ways consistently over and over.

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>>18822372
lol what the fuck

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>>18822388
you even said it yourself ways plural not one way on flashcard over and over

glad we agree my ninja

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder if it's appropriate to translate 宵陣 as Night Raid? any other suggestion? the context is this group of people is going to ambush a target at night.

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>>18822247
>It's easier to accept that 大変、大冒険、大手 all have different readings of 大 than to sit someone down and explain that 大 can be read differently beforehand
After tens thousands of words I've learnt I think general rule is: kun reading of a word - おお, if on reading and there is no word with single kanji then たい, as it makes new words. だい in other cases, as a prefix. But of course there are exceptions as with anything else. I would actually like if someone'd taught me something like this.

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>>18822404
No because that's ripping off akame ga kill

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>>18822395
I sure did. However, in the early and middle stages it's easier to study with structure instead of getting a lot of varied stuff thrown at you and trying to make sense of it all at once. It's sort of the next step up from relying on textbook/Tae Kim sentences, which do occur in media, but not nearly as often as you would like.

IDK though, I learned Spanish largely this way, as I got tired of sounding like a fucking gringo piecing sentences together the way teachers wanted us to. Learning common patterns took me from "has to think hard about all the sentence parts" to "has seen sentences just like this a million times and doesn't even have to think about it." One way "just works" and one way is frustrating. Then I got sick of sounding like a "smart" kid and learned (through similar methods) how to devolve my Spanish to where my Mexican co-workers didn't think I sounded like a prissy white boy with a stick shoved up my ass.

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>>18822423
Pretty sure most grammar books tell you when on and kun readings are generally used.

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>>18822423
I meant more along the lines of learning the individual words as individuals as opposed to concerning yourself with the particulars of Kanji readings. That's something that can be dealt with later.

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>>18822478
this was a better idea in your head im sure

[Anonymous No.]

Meme that isn't terrible coming through.

[Anonymous No.]

no thats pretty bad too

[Anonymous No.]

citation needed

[Anonymous No.]

>going through the RTK means you won't be reading novels
>Matt literally did just that
top delusion, the RTK induced retention for Japanese words is worth going through it alone

[Anonymous No.]

rtk is good at what it does but it doesnt make you learn nihongo so its prolly a good idea to hash out what you are gonna be doing after rtk before you spend your time doing rtk

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[Anonymous No.]

おきちゃった

ねむれないよう

ふええ

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[Anonymous No.]

>>18821439
>>18822607
I am tired of all the other methods. I will start this one now. Not really mainly for japanese. I just realized it's fucking great idea for learning everything. Thanks, bros.

[Anonymous No.]

What's this かてーな supposed to mean? I can't find anything other than kansai dialect stuff but even then it doesn't fit, I think

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>>18822660
You're welcome my man.

[Anonymous No.]

How can you appraise someone's japanese level if you don't know the language? And if you can understand everything a person says, doesn't that mean they don't know the language well?

[Anonymous No.]

世界一ヘタなつぶやきだわこれ

[Anonymous No.]

>>18822666
硬い

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>>18822677
It's not a competition. People learn enough to fit their needs. If you go deep in a language you can probably learn more than the average native speaker. If you are able to communicate without problems without making retarded mistakes, and you are able to make out things you don't know instinctively for already being used to the language, you may already be fluent. If you are in doubt about that, take a test and have your knowledge measured.

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>>18822677
its easy you just say whatever you want its like when people who dont know nihongo criticize translations for being inaccurate

[Anonymous No.]

>>18822677
You can only appraise someone who's below you in skill level.

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>>18822727
Wow, that must be it. How am I supposed to figure this stuff out?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18822748
just learn some fuckin nihongo through livin your life outside of the box [of flashcards]

[Anonymous No.]

Why did that one get deleted but not the other two?

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>>18822677
>How can you appraise someone's japanese level if you don't know the language?
I forgot to answer that: You don't. Like >>18822739 said, you are just being a prick.
This is a retarded question. You need at least some knowledge to even think about trying that. Try picking a language you never heard and making a judgment about how well the person talking know the language. If you are at least somewhat familiar with how it sounds, you only will be able to make comments about their accent.

[Anonymous No.]

My favorite word I encountered yesterday is 樗蒲一, hit "subscribe" for studying cool nihongo.

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>>18822772
My question was towards general public that says how good なにがし is in nihongo.

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>>18822782
いいね
＊ポチッと＊

[Anonymous No.]

hey how do i exactly use qolibri? every time i try to open a dictionary it just stops and won't display the dictionary style sheetso i can't even look up words...

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>>18822803
I may have sounded harsher than I intended but I think it's the same thing. The general public already have their ideas about what they think is good or bad japanese, and is probably one that is different than what a japanese person will have.

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[Anonymous No.]

If you're not enriching your life and you're not studying, you should be studying.

If you spend your non-studying time time parroting what other people tell you to do, you won't learn Japanese.

Really, how full of yourself do you have to be to push a method, by name, designed by a scam artist? Not only that, but to insist that any method where you do lots of reading is that method, even though your method is hinged on so many other activities? It's not even original. It's a bad antimoon ripoff written one unedited blog post at a time. Read everything in its table of contents? Are you kidding me? There are hundreds of posts, and the majority of them are really long and fucking garbage. Have you ever even seen competent English-language technical writing even once in your life?

The only thing that causes people to learn Japanese is input. This is the only part of all japanese all the time that does anything for you, and it's not all japanese all the time's idea at all, all japanese all the time hardly even places any weight on it.

If you're going to go off and spread a method of learning Japanese based around preparing for reading and listening then doing lots of reading and listening, go for it. But keeping the name of a method designed by a scam artist just because it's where you learned what to do? What are you thinking? Get some perspective.

It's not worth it to directly engage in petty arguments with people from Matt's discord, it just gives them more perspective on how to counter your arguments. In fact, in general, arguing here is not worth anyone's time, unless you're some kind of idiot who thinks that it's possible to bully malicious people out of the thread, in which case more power to you till you get banned.

Just like learn Japanese.

oh and read more (really), radical freedom (you own your mistakes), etc

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>>18823011
tldr and also didnt click

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so this is what /jp/ has come to
responding to a wall of text 下げ post with a low quality bump
lurk more and learn some manners

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>>18823036
maybe you dont know where you are but this is /djt/ so maybe consider returning to your otaku board that has nothing to do with otakudom and also gets one post per hour

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>>18823064
>gatekeeping /jp/ when you're a /a/ reject
さすが coming from the type of aspies DJT attracts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823078
>ignoring literally everything i said and replying anyway

by the way you seem to know nihongo can you help teach in this thread thanks

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>>18823084
Who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823088
a mentally deficient person

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>>18823095
Why were you quoting yourself?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823098
youre quoting yourself

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>>18823084
I read what you said, and it was basically ''we're the ingroup and you're the outgroup, leave our sekret klub reeeeeeee''. Nothing new and just shows that you're either underage or quite immature. Leave the high school bullshit for your shitty real life and don't bring it on an anonymous board where identity matters not one bit.

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>>18823104
isnt that exactly what >>18823036 did

good to see you mushbrains are completely oblivious to your own hypocrisy

now leave our holy christian /djt/ board before things get uglier than your already embarrassing posting

[Anonymous No.]

「鐘の音」の読み方が「かねのおと」でしたが
「かねのね」が正解です
一体なんなんだこれ

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>>18823118
No, he was criticizing the quality of posting, without addressing a made up boogeyman and without separating posters into teams of in-group and out-group like some stupid high-schooler. If you can't see the difference, I can't help you.

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>>18823130
sorry i dont fancy comparing different types of turds its all shit to me

i dont come into your terrible threads (because theyre terrible) and youre only here because no one else is around to play with you right now in them

but i like to play so here i am now entertain me

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なんか小さくて字読みづらくないですか

Why exactly is the negative form of 読みづらい used here? I'm not going to argue with it because it's native, but logically wouldn't it completely flip the meaning of the sentence from "isn't the text small and hard to read" to "isn't the text small and easy to read" or am I just overthinking this?

[Anonymous No.]

The way the quotes show up sometimes drives me fucking bonkers. Is this normal in VNs and books, or is it just that my resolution is fucked up?

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>>18823159
What is supposed to be the problem?

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>>18822591
Is it ok for me to RTK now that I'm a year into my studies? I think it'd help me remember some of these words more easily. I've already read a few books and a VN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823154
それ痛くないですか

>>18823159
異常なし

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>>18823170
yeah if you know enough japanese to understand what it might be doing for you it's fine (even if there are better alternatives)

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>>18823011
I didn't read your post but that rattata you drew is cute and now I fly the RATTATA flag (minus the amphetamines because i don't wanna take any it's scary).

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>>18823184
Actually I just stole it from Google images and edited out some tears.

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>>18823190
in a way that makes you literally the same as matt

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>>18823166
The first quotation mark is at the very end of a line, with no words written after it. It triggers my autism so badly I bit my lip and now I'm bleeding a lil.

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>>18823150
>i dont come into your terrible threads
>your
You're doing it again. Not everyone you dislike is from /int/. I only browse this thread, and I have to agree with the other people saying that lowercase poster(s) like you are the absolute worst cancer on this thread.

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>>18823193
It's okay, I limit it to bad memes.

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>>18823196
im allowed to write the story however i want thats the joy of anonymous posting right

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>>18823154
>Why exactly is the negative form of 読みづらい used here?
For exactly the same reason you used the word "isn't" in your question:
>"isn't the text small and hard to read"

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>>18823201
Yeah but I just want you to be aware that while you're gatekeeping this thread/board as if you owned them, most people here actually think that you're the one that's cancer and we'd all prefer it if you left. This is probably nothing new for you, you're probably unwanted in real life too.

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>>18823219
its ok ill still help them with nihongo sometimes

also nice real life insult on /jp/ im sure youre way better off than me lol

[Anonymous No.]

I'm a complete beginner and trying to learn. I have my core2k/6k Japanese vocab setup like this where it shows the kanji on top and then you have to click show answer to show the kana, translation and sentences. Is the right way to set it up? I think it would be a lot easier to remember the words if I set the kana on top because I'm have a hard time remembering Kanji.

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>>18823236
you're supposed to remember the kana based on the kanji, not the other way around
when you're reading you see only the kanji, and you need to remember how it's pronounced

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823236
>easier to remember
Sounds like false retention.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823194
Oh. Yeah, that's normal. Probably something to do with the lack of spaces in Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823194
Yeah they just normally don't care about placing linebreaks in reasonably places unless it's meant for kids.

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>>18823236
You'll have to learn kanji anyway eventually, so it's better this way. Also, it's not so much learning kana as it is learning the word/pronunciation, and knowing kana inherently makes you know the writing in kana. Learn the word's pronunciation first and foremost, and the way to write it and the precise meaning as secondary focus.

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>>18823154
>>18823216
actually, that reply came out a bit more assholeish than I was intending, so here's a proper answer:
It's not
なんか[小さくて] [字読みづらくない]ですか, the grammar actually works like
なんか[小さくて字読みづらく]ないですか.
This translates to
"It's kind of [small and hard to read], isn't it?

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>>18823232
>also nice real life insult on /jp/ im sure youre way better off than me lol
That's how I know you're life is shit. You actually have to delude yourself into thinking that everyone posting here is a piece of shit in order to feel better about being one yourself. Wake up dude, you're pretty far gone.

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>>18823286
for the curious, the grammar here is "you are "life is shit"", with an unmarked quotative phrase, not a typo of "your life is shit"

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>>18823286
whos more far gone me or you trying to read an anonymous posters mind on the internet lol

come on dude you look silly

[Anonymous No.]

People get mad at lowercase-kun for "derailing the thread," but it seems to me he usually makes fairly on-topic posts until someone comes and fusses at him over something unrelated to language learning.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a time efficient way to actually make sentence flashcards? They seem like they could be a lot better than just word to word, which I mainly use for internalizing kanji readings while picking up meaning from reading in context, maybe context in my flashcards would make them a bit more enjoyable and effective. However, it also seems like the amount of time it would take to customize those cards would outweigh the benefits. I like my flashcard workflow to be as small as possible.

[Anonymous No.]

sentence cards are a placebo, just read more and be more attentive

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823352
Actually he's the one mostly replying unhelpful shit to people asking questions like here >>18821680 , and he got promptly rebutted by >>18821688 for being such an unhelpful cunt who keeps spewing his bullshit.

>>18823326
Don't have to read minds. I have a life, so I don't go around here assuming everyone doesn't have a life. You're the one making that assumption, so one can only conclude that you're the one who doesn't have a life and accusing people of being like you as a coping mechanism. Your parents are probably quite disappointed in you, and rightly so.

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>>18823352
as much as i want to play up the 味方 angle i guess its fair to say this happens often to many posters on these threads and not just me

as a social worker i just know how to handle problem children

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>>18823352
see
>>18823064
There's a reason he keeps getting banned and has to evade, you dishonest retard. The guy replying to him is an absolute idiot though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823393
Case in point, he just did it again here >>18823386 . It's unhelpful advice and has been posted here a million times. He gives no explanations, no justifications, just tells beginners to read more. That would be like a hockey coach telling his players to just ''skate more'' when they ask questions about game strategy and proper diet regimens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823413
not the same person, stop boogeymanning

[Anonymous No.]

practice more is legit advice in all walks of life, also you don't know Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823413
>It's unhelpful advice and has been posted here a million times.
So has the explanation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823393
just because its not what you want to hear or read doesnt mean its unhelpful consider not projecting

also heres a quick and dirty psych lesson: its not the ones in good standing the beat the ones of bad standing down it is the ones of low standing who want to pull the ones that stand above down to their level

reply to me and prove my point

>>18823402
im not ban evading just because you hate me so much doesnt mean im doing anything wrong

you derailing with your hate and disdain is the issue

>>18823413
wasnt me

>>18823424
i hope we can know japanese someday all of us together as one

[Anonymous No.]

>I don't know if the reason is X or something like that, but...

How do you phrase that?
I guess: Xか何の理由かが知らないが…
But my production skills are poor, so I would like confirmation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823275
Thinking about it more is only making it worse.

I'll just take it at literal face value and deal with it. They basically place their nots and isn'ts in different places and it sometimes looks strange.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823441
it's not that bad is it i mean isn't it fine when you don't have to parse it

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823433
>it is the ones of low standing who want to pull the ones that stand above down to their level
So I'm trying to bring you down to my level by telling you to wake up and stop justifying your lack of life by accusing everyone else of not having one? That mental gymnastic is too much for me.
>wasnt me
Sure, just happens there are two lowercase faggots shitposting in the same way on this very thread right now. Please, we all recognize your writing style.

[Anonymous No.]

i type in lowercase or capitals depending on which has fewer posters right now to minimize chances of identity confusion, it's not the kind of thing you think it is

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823379
>Is there a time efficient way to actually make sentence flashcards?
Copy and paste from WN and LN that are in HTML format. Currently I just make words lists during the week and then type everything up on weekends since I'm mining from manga and DQIV at the moment. It's kind of a pain in the butt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823467
what reason do i have to lie i couldnt care less

when did i make any kind of real life insult unprovoked from a real life insult

get off it mate these kinds of interactions are boring

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823275
>なんか [小さくて] [字読みづらくない] ですか, the grammar actually works like
>なんか [小さくて字読みづらく] ないですか.
I am frustrated. I mean, I should've expected that there's some different way to 'deconstruct' a sentence in any language, but looking at this just makes my eye water. It's as if I will never learn this language.

Just have to keep on keeping on.

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>>18823481
>i type in lowercase or capitals depending on which has fewer posters right now to minimize chances of identity confusion
Holy fuck stop being so autistic, sort your life out, get a job and maybe then start developing a hobby like learning Japanese. Get your priorities straight and stop being such a spastic failure. I'm saying this to help you, not to bring you down. You're lost track of what real life is and are focusing on inane bullshit like ''identidy confusion'' on an anonymous website because of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823497
Oh wow, now he'll definitely stop.

Or maybe he'll reply in purely hiragana

しょうがないな

[Anonymous No.]

sorry, don't care how you feel about it, it's not even a conscious effort on my part and it's saved trouble in the past

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823486
Doesn't it bother you when half of your cards have sentences and the others don't?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823505
I actually started with sentence cards and am gradually switching to vocab only where it makes sense (e.g. it's some specific noun like 絹) so I wouldn't know. My early cards with English on the back bother me more than sentence vs vocab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823496
>>18823441
>>18823441
In japanese sentences with multiple verbs, only the last one is conjugated, but the conjugation applies to the whole sentence.
For example, if you wanted to construct a past tense version of the sentence, it would be
小さくて字読みづらかった, and even though only the last verb has the た, the whole sentence is past tense.
"Negative sentences" work the same way. You take a complete sentence and then negate the whole sentence by conjugating the last verb to the negative form.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823503
>and it's saved trouble in the past
No, issues like people finding out that you're samefagging or not on an anonymous website isn't ''trouble''. ''Trouble'' is how you're fucking up your life because you don't have your priorities straight, and instead waste your life away learning Japanese and shitpopsting here. That's a problem that's a lot more real than whatever bullshit internet social interaction you're focusing on. Sort your life out mate.

[Anonymous No.]

you're just paranoid dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823536
Just remember what I just told you 10 years from now, you'll see how I was right all along. You only have one life, stop wasting it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823551
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVSgEas3mt4

[Anonymous No.]

you're the one insisting that two different people are the same person just because you dislike one of them, i think you're the one that needs to reflect

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823565
That guy is honestly foolish, don't he know that all of us is just one person? We're all him. /djt/ is a hall of mirrors.

He doesn't know himself. But you do, me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823462
It made more sense when I looked at it once and didn't try to consider its details. Basically my gut instinct was correct and overthinking it got me to where I am right now.

>>18823526
This makes much more sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823565
Hey I don't need to reflect since my life is already sorted out, mostly because I did things properly before starting to learn this language as a hobby. You, however, are doing things backwards, and you'll end up regretting it.

[Anonymous No.]

i hope by sorted out you mean born to wealthy parents because you're certainly going to fail if you indulge in your poor mental health like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823591
Is this your first day posting on /jp/? No one gives a fuck about your blogging, and all it's doing is making you look like an insecure dekinai.

[Anonymous No.]

So today we learned that the true key to mastering japanese is to get incredibly mad about somebody saying "sentence cards are a waste of time," and then derail the thread for literally hours on end by arguing with him about whether or not a. everyone posting in lowercase is him and b. getting incredibly worked up over virtually nothing.

L-let's read some nice nihongo content again tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.]

hey i dont need to reflect since todays nihongo word of the day is 影響

check back tomorrow for the next nihongo word of the day

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823617
>tomorrow
It's still morning in Australia, and I will not wait until tomorrow!

[Anonymous No.]

i didn't even say waste of time, i said placebo
placebos can still help, that's what they are

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823618
えい、、きょー？
ぼくわかんないや
ねー、おねえさんおしえて

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823632
Sorry I didn't feel like looking back for the original post that set off the shitstorm of madposting literally hours ago. I'll do better in the future.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823618
Wouldn't it be more useful if the word of the day wasn't in Core2k, since most of us already did that deck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823600
>you mean born to wealthy parents
Now who's assuming based on nothing?

[Anonymous No.]

この番組はご覧のスポンサーの提供でお送りします

[Anonymous No.]

So my parents are willing to let me go to Japan for a whole year to learn Japanese.

Since I have rather severe learning disabilities when it comes to language (I needed special classes when I was younger to learn to read and write) I'm looking for one-on-one sessions. What do?

[Anonymous No.]

middle school tier reading comprehension, no, worse

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823670
>So my parents are willing to let me go to Japan
Reported for underage

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823670
>my parents are willing to let me go to Japan

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823670
If language isn't your forte, maybe stop being such a weeb and pick an easier language for an EOP. Either that, or pick a different hobby altogether and stop destroying your parent's hopes and dreams of seeing their son not be such a failure at life.

[Anonymous No.]

So how does 書く conjugate in the -te form? I see it listen everywhere as 書いて but shouldn't it be 買って because of the euphonic changes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823698
パン買ってきてね

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823690
That's very mean desu.

I've tried languages with more in common with English like German and Latin but I've always been hung up by declension and gender. I actually find Japanese to be easier, only thing I have major trouble with is kanji just like everyone else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823703
パン好き?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823698
まぁ！日本語、お上手ですね！
そう、ひいおばあさんに手紙を書いてからアイスバーを買ってあげるからね！

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823714
Still, sounds like a waste of time to waste a year like that when you have trouble with languages. People with no language trouble often don't learn anything after many years in Japan. You remind me of the silly Paralympic athletes who go ''hmm I don't have any legs, what should I do with my life...oh I know, I'll be an Olympic runner!'' It's silly and nobody thinks you're cool ''challenging adversity'' unless you're some virtue signaling moron. Play to your strengths, you only have one life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823714
>I have major trouble with is kanji just like everyone else.
Speak for yourself. Kanji makes the language a lot easier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823751
I mean I agree with you, but no need to bring down Paralympians.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823751
That's a horrible analogy

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823714
if you like doing it keep going for it dude

hire a tutor (go through many until you find the right one for you) and make the best use of them you can and just spend a lot of time with nihongo and youll get there dude

>>18823716
いや全然

ゴミ箱に捨てているところだから

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823756
this, Japanese would literally be unreadable without Kanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823768
Yeah, good thing everyone speaks in Kanji or else it'd be impossible to understand each other and all sorts of wacky misunderstandings would happen. Now if I could just hold shift over an audio file to see what all these words mean...

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823766
No, it's a perfect analogy because in both cases, these guys try to accomplished something while having a huge handicap in said thing, instead of playing to their strengths. Imagine if Stephen Hawking decided to be a Paralympian because of the ''challenge adversity'' meme.
>>18823765
You're right, it's not only their fault but their shitty parents' fault too for pushing them into something they're unsuited for because you look like a good parent if your kid ''challenges adversity''. They're egotistical and only doing it for the attention it brings them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823783
>unreadable

ｊｊｊｊ

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823783
風神 from final fantsy 8 speaks in only kanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823767

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823792
It's a horrible analogy because there are incredible paralympic athletes. It completely falls apart. Same with your Hawking comment, the guy could type at only like 20 wpm using his eyes. That's a significant handicap for a researcher. Yet he still managed to be a critical contributor and author for decades after he lost control of his whole body

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823751
i seriously hope you werent that guy telling people to rethink their life and shit earlier because lmao what a piece of work

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823703
>>18823732
I find it interesting that 買う　is somewhat close to kaufen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823827
He definitely is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823819
>because there are incredible paralympic athletes
None of them are better than their non-handicapped counterparts, so much so that they had to create a whole other event nobody cares about after the ''real'' competition ends.
>That's a significant handicap for a researcher
It is, but being a researcher is the better option when your physical capabilities go to shit.

>>18823827
Still lowercasing it I see. Have you gotten a job yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823831
立派 has the same meaning as the australian slang "ripper". 蛇口, when translated to Russian, has the same pronunciation as when translated to Indonesian.

Languages be weird, converging like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823851
Still not fucking posting anything on topic while simultaneously bitching about other people not being on topic, I see! Have you ever considered you're a bigger problem than the people you're complaining about?

>>18823857
Well, "Everything That Rises Must Converge," after all.

[Anonymous No.]

Lads what's your retention rate for new cards on the next day? If you learned 20 new words today, how many of them would you remember tomorrow for the first review?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823851
>I'm a failure at learning Japanese so I'll just sit in the thread and shitpost all day long

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823894
90%+ for me but I'm highly intelligent (confirmed high IQ)

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823851
im too busy laughing at you to get a job爆笑

at this rate i might actually die of laughter and not ever have to work

truly the 理想の人生

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823908
>memorizing squiggly lines = high intelligence

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823894
It has to be ~90% or else I consider my day ruined, my life wasted, my dick pointless and my meals poison.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823912
So have you learnt Japanese yet Jamal?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823927
im just all right わたしは大丈夫

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823908
>>18823918
I realize it's probably been asked a bunch of times but can you just give me a normal answer

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823857
I just did a quick research, Anonymous-san, I found something interesting! 買う from the Middle Japanese かふ (pronounced as "kafu" in its earliest days) which in turn can traces back its origins to Proto-Japonic!

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823931
My target is ~90%. So "Again" on 2 cards if I do 20 cards per day (I don't). Normally I can do it, but sometimes it balloons out to twice that on bad days.

On really bad days, like when I move from Core to my own sentence deck, I can forget like half of the new cards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823931
Bitch do you think I remember my exact retention after doing 20 new cards
In the first place I do 10 cards per day, not 20

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823931
I don't have an exact number but the reality is that I remember absolutely fucking none of them, 1 or 2 at absolute most, and I only do 10 new cards per day. It takes several days for me to get the ball rolling on new cards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823894
It depends on how well I knew the word and corresponding kanji before I saw it as a flashcard. I don't know my specific statistics for new words, but I average about 80% right now. For me it's more important to click again and maybe have less than ideal stats

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823908
internet iq tests score everybody at like 140 dude sorry to burst your bubble

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823961
My IQ is not so low as to mistake free online IQ tests for authoritative measurements, but nice try.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823939
So is there a connection between Proto-Japonic and German?

>かふ
Do you know how would you conjugate this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823945
Damn that's really high. What's your method, for lack of a better word, of remembering such a large percentage so quickly?
>>18823946
Are you too stupid to understand the concept of percentages and approximations?
>>18823950
>>18823957
Thanks. Yeah I'm not too preoccupied with my stats, I was just wondering if it's normal to only remember 30-40% of the new cards the next day. Guess it varies a lot person by person

[Anonymous No.]

As someone with a confirmed 154 iq, I want to say that you should not place too much importance on iq.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823975
hey man you aint gotta convince me you just gotta convince the guy in the mirror

調子どう my high iq (high q) ninja

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823988
Alright, do the math for me if you're such a smart faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823993
yeah iq doesnt really mean much of anything as it comes to real life but still its those who approach things in ways others dont that succeed

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824009
>Are you too stupid to understand the concept of percentages and approximations?
I guess the answer to my question is yes. An approximation is what you give when you are not sure of the exact answer to the question. So in this case, I assumed nobody would keep track of an exact % as it's not visible in the anki stats page. This was understood by those that aren't retarded such as:
>>18823950
>>18823957
>>18823945

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823988
>What's your method, for lack of a better word, of remembering such a large percentage so quickly?
I spend quite some time on each new card, trying to make the memory more concrete. Simple as that.

When I was learning kanji, just like RTK said, I tried to imagine them as a 'construct' of 'images' and make stories as mnemonics. When I'm going to vocab, I say the word out loud several times, try to combine the mnemonics I have for the kanji, and if possible, I even did the verb (or the suru-nouns). Core2k has pronunciation, so that's another 'memory point'. I try to remember if I've seen the word before in non-Anki context, so I remember 真剣の奥義 because I've read ぼーぼぼ before I know actual kanji.

tl;dr spend some time with it.

I think that's not quite the point of Anki, since you're supposed to flip through it quickly? idk man

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823981
Not a connection, just a coincidence. I don't know how to conjugate Classic Japanese, but かふ is 四段 and as such the stems are は、ひ、ふ、ふ、へ、へ.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824043
So you're just actually shit at math, alright thanks bud

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824009
those icons man my heart goes out to you for real

fuckin gambare

[Anonymous No.]

>>18823988
>if it's normal to only remember 30-40% of the new cards the next day
The more words you know, the more connections you can make from each new word, and the easier it'll be to memorize them.

So keep on going man. ganbare and yatta and all that ジャズ

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824047
>I think that's not quite the point of Anki, since you're supposed to flip through it quickly? idk man
Yeah, I've been doing something similar minus the mnemonics. I was also thinking if I was spending too much time on new cards because I assume you're supposed to remember them by clicking again till you get it which doesn't work at all for me. I have had days where I've clicked again literally 10 times and not been able to remember it still. So I just write new cards down a bunch of times and then once more before bed. I've been overanalyzing how anki "should" be used but I think I'll just look at it as a tool you use however best works for you personally.
>>18824085
I will, cheers
>>18824056
Jesus man, I feel bad for you if you aren't trolling. How do you tie your shoes in the morning

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824092
Do you only use anki? Don't forget to est yourself outside of Anki as well. Read a lot, and read widely. It feels great if you stumble upon a word you just learned in Anki on an actual, normal, non-Anki sentence.

I'm sorry if this was too much of an assumption.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824131
I'm doing anki + tae kim as stated in the guide. I'm an absolute beginner, only been at it a few weeks hence the overanalyzing and questioning every decision I make.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824131
Conversely, it feels horrible when a word you KNOW you've seen on Anki, but you forgot what it meant when it's on a book or a news article or something.

Learning sucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824144
>Learning sucks.
Millennials/Generation Z in a nutshell. This world is going to hell. I blame Web 2.0.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824160
I think about my own pitiful attention span, and wonder how the kids growing up watching hours of the eldritch horrors on Kid's Youtube will end up.

[Anonymous No.]

Don't worry too much about anki. Use it as a supplement on the side.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824160
You know, I just realized millennials are people who are born in early 90s at the latest, so that would make them 20+ years old at this point. They're not...teens. I've been seeing them as teens this whole time!

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824170
That's the benefit of poor Eastern European countries. Traditionalist mentality and lack of money means that practically nobody but the most westernized people simply plop their kid in front of an ipad and let them spend 3 hours watching autoplaying youtube kids drivel. Kids here have their own set of problems I guess, but better than the 1st world alternative in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824170
ehh, my nephews watch tons of Minecraft videos, he's doing better at more subjects in his elementary school than I was. He got above-average results even for Quranic recitation!

I'm not worried about the future generations fucking it up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824185
People usually mean generation Z when they say Millennial because they bunch them together. From what I can see, Generation Z are the real problem, because they were given shitty education, put on pills from a young age, grew up in a vapid corrupted culture and only think in terms of memes and streamlined overly simplistic manners just like a reflection of Web 2.0. Millenials' problems were a bit more similar to the problem of generation X (depression, lack of jobs, etc.).

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824216
>Quranic recitation
The absolute state of Germany

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824160
>>18824232
are you me

do you wanna like talk about stuff like cleaning out the carburetors in our lawn mowers and barbecue sometime

brb wife aggro

[Anonymous No.]

This thread takes the weirdest fucking measures and derails to avoid studying Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824212
The ideal is rich enough to give nutrition, and smart enough to nurture and love full time, imo.

>>18824216
Minecraft youtube is a far cry from the Elsa/Needle/Impreg/Body horror that these under 5 year old kids are getting sucked into. Bizarre stuff. Well, allah is probably protecting your nephew anyway.

>>18824252
日本語は全体
全体は日本語

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824252
todays nihongo word of the day is 注意欠陥多動性障害

check back in 20 minutes for the next nihongo word of the day

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824232
So anyway to turn it slightly more on-topic, do the 'generations' classifications even apply to non-Western civilizations? Not just for millennials, but also for other generations like the baby boomers, or gen X or Y.

[Anonymous No.]

Since we're miles off topic anyways, how many languages do you fags speak other than Japanese and to what level? I'm native level at 2 and somewhere between B1 and B2 for another.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824266
old people always hate the shit the young people are doing in every generation in every culture

if you hate how everyone is glued to their smartphone nowadays guess what youre old and you should also be friends with me

[Anonymous No.]

Fucks sake how is it that literally everyone is saying different things when it comes to benkyou

The only things making me frustrated are the constant mixed messages and the lingering paranoia over whether I'm doing things the right way or if I'm just wasting time. that's what's shit

can this board be trusted

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824264
If you introduce a 3rd new word today, my anki retention statistic that proves how smart I am is going to drop below 40%, you know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824285
I don't hate people using their smartphones. I can see how my niblings play using this small black stone I have in my hand. It's amazing.

I remember using fucking maps to plan my travel across town.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824289
HOW TO BENKYOUSHITEIRU:
>read as much as you can handle reading
>do anki for vocab that you have trouble remembering
>look up grammar that you don't understand
This will turn any dekinai into a dekiru. It's literally just grinding. If all else fails read the fuckin guide dawg

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824266
All depends on the triggers of cultural shifts in non-western civilizations. Generally though, generations cut off around every 12-15 years because any given people with 15 years difference will start thinking in noticeably different ways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824264
It is my belief that by using a long string of kanji, although it is cumbersome to read (for beginners), the kanji string actually explained the concept far better than the English equivalent.

注意欠陥多動性障害 is a 障害 where where the person has 多動性 and 注意欠陥. Pretty clear.

Good going, Japanese (and other languages with ideographs?)!

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824304
>niblings
Black siblings?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824323
No, nieces and nephews, you racist.

Or siblings I'd like to nibble on. Either sexually or in a cannibalistic way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824285
>>18824304
It'd be cool if everyone was on their smartphone truly learning and engaging with the world all the time, but most people will just masturbate their egos on social media, confirm their biases on political sites that get them high on their own outrage, or look at some depraved pornography for hours at a time if they're too much of a loser or brainlet for even the other two (me).

スマホ tech is the ruin of anyone port of the bell curve, or with a lack of self control. I sometimes wonder about making some legal arrangement where I'm only allowed to use certain websites and I pay someone to keep passwords on all of my tech. I can't trust myself with all of this entertainment, and I'll just keep ruining myself as it is.

[Anonymous No.]

Ok can we get back on topic?

Newfag here getting into core 6k, I'm a little over 1000 cards in. Anyway, I was wondering what the consensus is on when I should start reading native material? Personally I've been waiting until I hit 3k words as I heard at that time you see enough words you already know so that reading is more smooth and efficient.

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.]

おはよう

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824336
夜だけどおはようございます！

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824335
Just start reading easy stuff. If you've done your grammar, 時をかける少女 would be just about perfect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824335
My thought is that you cannot learn Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824327
>It'd be cool if everyone was on their smartphone truly learning and engaging with the world all the time, but most people will just masturbate their egos on social media
This is exactly why I blame Web 2.0. Web 1.0 didn't have all this rampant narcissism, it was rather mostly a place to learn and exchange ideas. I feel bad for kids who only grew up with 2.0 (i.e. born after around 1995-2000).

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824335
You can start whenever. Mining >>> Coretrash anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824335
You should go ahead and start reading ASAP. Make a mining deck. However many cards you do in core, split that in half. So if you normally do 20 per day, do 10 from core and 10 from mining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824335
Oh boy, this is a contentious topic, you have to understand. From my brief exposure to this question on /djt/, these are the general opinions:
>read as soon as possible
>the benefits of isolated word-learning is stops being better than learning through native material at about 1000 words
>3k will make the reading more smooth and thus means you can read more
>if you ask this question you can't learn Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824335
It's pretty much agreed upon here that you should wait until 3k because that's when the comfort butter zone is attained (time/benefit ratio). You're doing good, keep at it!

[Anonymous No.]

>2249
>春分
Core is a joke. Begin mining as soon as you can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824289
ill give you advice that will 100% make you learn japanese and it will be to others' dismay but please believe me

you need to be exposed to comprehensible verbal spoken japanese as much as possible with a video or other sight component as much as possible for some amount of time that i wont specify but for sure longer than a month

then you need to try to read starting with things that are written in the least complex way possible with a visual and audio component such as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrqO4eSqRC4

you should be doing both of these things now concurrently

now you can try interacting with japanese people you dont know or posting on japanese 掲示板s using small phrases or even "memes" that you know fit or are appropriate

if you know japanese people already that will help you out then put interacting with them at the very beginning

and now you are listening and reading and even having limited やり取り with real nihonjims

just keep going until you find yourself using nihongo first in thoughts sometimes and then at that moment realize youre over the hill and are gonna roll easily to rounding out your fluency

no timetables and no flashcards and lots of exposure to material you can actually digest while conscientiously increasing the level

you will learn nihongo

>>18824320
yeah i say this all the time theres a lot of terms on the science and medical side that make way more sense with kanji than english

>>18824327
you at least have awareness but you must have the willpower to rise above

>>18824335
flashcards are fucking gay

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824394
Mine from newspapers, problem solved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824394
>always bring up the same example of a less useful word
>bunch in all the other 5998 words that are actually useful
You read more faggots are getting tiresome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824398
>lowercase
>useful advice like ''flashcards are fucking gay''
Sure showed us. Get a job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824335
>3k
I missed that meme.

[Anonymous No.]

If you have a collection of old Japanese newspapers, Core is the way to go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824398
>reading and listening with no vocab base at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824413
maybe you should get back to your job at the dick sucking factory right about now mate : )

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824394
I like how there's a whole lot of useful words like 股 at the very end of 6k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824421
Dude, it's the resident jobless lowercase faggot who is shining his great wisdom upon us with his brilliant advice. Have some respect.

[Anonymous No.]

>工学部

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824421
you conveniently omitted the part where i said you need to see the things

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824443
im not jobless its actually this thread that keeps me sane at work right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824454
Yeah I bet disappointing your parents is a full-time job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824464
youll never bring me down to your level no matter how hard you try hater

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824398
>even having limited やり取り with real nihonjims
This is honestly my goal. Yeah, reading raw manga or LN or VN is good, but what I want is to tell those Pixiv artists that their works help me go through a bad time.

Also to tell those fuckers who disagree with my LN opinions to fuck themselves, in Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

How does having a job have any relation to ability in Japanese? In fact, I would surmise that not having a job is the ideal situation. You have to focus on what's important

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824471
I'm a hater for wanting you to get a job and succeed in life? You're the problem with Generation Z, you get offended at anyone not telling you that you can do anything you want and you're awesome no matter what. Parents have no spine these days and are the main reason for this. Lack of a proper father figure and the exploding number of single moms are both to blame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824497
if i want input from the peanut gallery ill ask for it hater

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824490
Your goal is to learn natural production, a skill that will take you many hundreds of hours, so you can leave a few comments here and there.
You will never use it otherwise. Production is a waste of time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824492
It's a matter of using that free time to first sort out your life before doing something as unimportant and time-consuming as learning Japanese. It isn't a good thing that a lot of people in this thread are jobless, living with their parents without a degree, yet find that the best course of action right now is sinking all their time into learning moon runes. Priorities are important, and a lot of people here are fucking their lives up because their parents never taught them proper discipline and responsibility.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824497
You will never learn Japanese at this rate, buddy

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824502
hater status: ass wrecked

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824513
dont see how im untouchable

[Anonymous No.]

Every single time I come into this thread it's 50% lowercase shitposting and people responding to him/them

[Anonymous No.]

jamal is a literal hero

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824507
And I'm up for that. I want to learn a language so I can use it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824526
Thats fine, but realize its not a choice this thread makes, so barely anybody here will help you. Go to the japanese thread on /int/ and talk with all the 'english teachers'

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824517
by women

>>18824523
you got it wrong you should take a look at what happens its someone decides they want to get fucked up so they try and fuck with me when im posting about nihongo or whatever

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824523
Retards can't grasp that reporting and ignoring (or just ignoring, if you're too lazy) is something they can do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824539
I know, that's why I didn't ask production questions on this thread. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824541
You can't even manage basic English syntax and punctuation. Why should anyone give a flying fuck about what you have to say about Japanese?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824508
>unimportant and time-consuming as learning Japanese
Only a 出来ない would utter such blasphemy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824526
ill tell you something else to others dismay

if you use the language with someone in an exchange you can listen to what they say too and it helps shape your output while youre also intaking comprehensible input

its the secret the flashcard boys dont want you to know about

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824554
What's the fun in that? That's like a child asking mommy to get rid of the bully. Fight your own battles you soyboy faggot. This isn't phleddit.
>>18824541
>someone decides they want to get fucked up so they try and fuck with me when im posting about nihongo or whatever
You either give shitty unhelpful advice or snarky unhelpful insults. Either way you're useless.

[Anonymous No.]

It'll take years to become できる, but how many generations will it take to become できすぎる?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824565
i write in better english than most of the posters here objectively

why should you care what i have to say about nihongo? dont i dont give a fuck

if even one person takes something good away from anything i posted its worth it

i only want the people who want to learn to learn anyway

next question

>>18824579
sometimes yes sometimes no sometimes i say what other people wont tell them but what they need to hear

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824568
It's just basic psychological and social theory. Learning Japanese is self-actualization, and being a jobless basement dweller is something to prioritize fixing rather than burning steps and going straight to the top of the pyramid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824589
>sometimes i say what other people wont tell them but what they need to hear
Oh you mean like me telling you to fix your life up instead of focusing on learning Japanese right now? You may not want to hear it, but it's definitely what you should do.

[Anonymous No.]

>Have a rare ship
>turns out there's a doujin artist who keeps drawing them for years
>only in Japanese
I'm glad I decide to learn Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824596
Considering how much time you've spent posting in this thread rather than studying (on what must be a precious day off for you), I fear that your commitment to this wage cuck lifestyle will forever keep you from the self-employed via 日本語 you seek. My apologies

[Anonymous No.]

I want a 6/10 qt Japanese gf

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824609
I make enough money not to be a wage-cuck, and I'm self employed, so I have enough free time to study Japanese and shitpost. That's what happens when you put in hard word at the right place and the right time instead of procrastinating your own life by doing silly shit like learn Japanese when your life is all in shambles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824598
bless your heart hater

>>18824637
hes not worthy of justifying yourself to

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824621
Why do gaijins always go for the ugly ones?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824662
Why do the ugly ones always go for gaijins?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824653
Thanks for being for me and against me in the same post I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824637
But you'll still never learn Japanese. Therefore, I am superior to you. Bow down before me, untermensch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824664

[Anonymous No.]

I've been studying my vocab deck for hours but I feel like only a few of them have stuck with me.

[Anonymous No.]

tfw you jack it to a doujinshi without having to look up any words

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824664
The gaijins are ugly too. Ugly people go against their race usually because they don't have any success with their own. It's not rocket science.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824662
Because I'm ugly myself, duh

[Anonymous No.]

What does やばみ mean? Does show up in the dictionary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824662
hey dude on the real if you can get one thatll put up with your bullshit and cook and clean up after you and give you chickenhead then who cares if her teeth snag namsayin

>>18824666
youre not public enemy number one so thats how it goes sometimes

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824685
>>18824686

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824687
やばい -> やばみ

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824687
すごい　ー　すごみ
やばい　ー　やばみ
Look up how to nominalize adjectives, I think Tae Kim talks about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824704
Ah, I thought that might be it. Thanks.

>>18824709
Does he? Been a while since I read through his guide but I can't recall anything about that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824685
Why do most hot blondies end up with black men then

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824652
>yfw 3k meme is on tour

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824735
this sounds like cuck mentality from the start

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824744
That explains a lot. Also, go back there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824735
Jewish media pushing the image that black men are the coolest. They're specifically targeted by said media which is why they go against the grain. A lot of them stay with top shelf whites too though, only the dumbest ones succumb to media propaganda.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824761
So now even /jp/ anons aren't allowed in your sekret klub? How pompous do you have to be? You deserved to get kicked off of /a/ you ungrateful fucks. We agreed to host your shit thread, how about you stop being such a cunt?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824735
>this is an actual thought that Westerners have, ironically or not
Fuck I love being a Slav

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824709
Oh yeah, and how come all these tools like rikai and yomichan seem to be missing the ability to read various conjugations of i-adjectives? They fail to detect the げ-form (not sure if that's the proper name, probably not) as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824777
It's the soy and the beta upbringing from single mothers. The West is fucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824777
I'm not a W*sterner though, I'm a Sudaca gentleman. I was only trying to bait insecure whites with that post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824795
>I was only pretending to be a soyboy cuck :^)
neck yourself subhuman

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824735
they especially like brothers that can rap in nihongo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOfAKhrkREo

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824795
Are you joking? You are a westerner by practically all modern geographic/political definitions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824795
to be completely honest with you it to me doesnt sound like something anyone would ask in earnest

just letting you know so you can up your game i guess though i dont really agree with it but i guess i respect it

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824823
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/westerner
>A native or inhabitant of the West, of the Western world—Europe and North America. (Also written capitalized as Westerner.)

I'll repeat: I am not a w*sterner. Please educate yourself before you say gibberish like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824838
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world#Modern_definitions
>From a cultural and sociological approach the Western world is defined as including all cultures that are directly derived from and influenced by European cultures, i.e. Europe (at least the European Union member states, EFTA countries, European microstates);[42][43] in the Americas (e.g. Argentina, Brazil, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Mexico, United States of America, Uruguay, Venezuela), and in Oceania (Australia and New Zealand). Together these countries constitute Western society.[28][67][68]

I can do it too

[Anonymous No.]

here's some better bullshit to argue about: sakubi
get cracking

[Anonymous No.]

whats sakubi

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824838
I don't know how he made that mistake. Westerners are the human looking things, non-westerners are the monkey looking things. It's pretty easy to remember.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824856
>>18824847
We're not allowed to post about that. The mod cracks down on people talking about Sakubi for some reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824869
oh well i guess sakubi isnt important then

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824857
Actually, it's the other way around. W*sterners are so hairy and barbarian in behaviour that when you see them from afar you have to watch out to not confuse them with dirty apes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824847
>>18824856
>>18824869
>>18824880
The fuck? Only related google result is some grammar guide on neocities. Why would that be off limits?

[Anonymous No.]

can't believe it was that easy to learn who's shitting up the thread lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824899
*gets carjacked at red light*
*gets murdered in drive by at the taco shop*
*gets beheaded and hung by a bridge by a cartel*
*gets kidnapped for blackmail money*
Very civilized

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824913
you just described the usa btw

[Anonymous No.]

guys can we not hate on each other because of race and geographic location just think about the beautiful words here >>18821849

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824903
My best bet is that Sakubi mass reports posts talking about him by using multiple IP addresses. There's no actual moderation reason for it to be off limits.

[Anonymous No.]

mass reporting doesn't do anything btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824918
Actually he just described blacks and mexicans in the US. Remove everyone but whites from the US, and statistically gun crime goes down 95%, even though whites are the majority. Go look up the stats, you'll see.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824918
80% of videos of people experiencing the things I listed are from Brazil and other shitholes in SA, but sure thing bud. I'm not even from the US regardless.

[Anonymous No.]

Did you guys ever stop to realize that Japanese doesn't have lower-/uppercase like western languages?
I know it's not a huge revelation but I just realized that and I thought it was pretty neat

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824928
So what decides which posts are erased here, because god knows a fuckton of them are deleted every thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824941
My god

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824941
yeah, and then right after I just thought: who the fuck cares

[Anonymous No.]

maybe the mods here just have good taste in posts

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824956
Sorry man, I'll make sure to post watashi wa gay next time

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824941
They have hiragana, katakana and kanji.
3 > 2

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824779
I don't know, but I imagine it's because things like み, げ and め are typically considered suffixes, not conjugations. Also worth noting that all of these have kanji (味, 気, 目).

[Anonymous No.]

I did core6k to almost 1400 completed.

Then I got sent abroad for my job and I was without internet for a week. My queue ended up being around 250 and since I was tired and sad about my streak being gone I ignored it. Now I'm at 1k due.

Do I just fucking delete my progress and start over? I'm reading all right, I mean I'm a nub but I get there. But learning new words with flashcards is also nice.

delete yes/no

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824903
>>18824922
It's because it generated a lot of controversy (arguments and shitposting) and the author was believed to be spamming it here (see pic related).

I don't think actually mentioning/talking about sakubi is off-limits. It's likely that the perception of it being off-limits comes from mods cleaning up shitstorms about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824941
In my native language capitalization is sometimes determined by the case of the word. So the same word might be capitalized in one context and not the next. Shit's aids as fuck.

10 fucking captchas to post this, I fucking hate this website

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824973
Mark my words, your post will get deleted in about 5 minutes. That pic does not fly here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824972
>I was without internet for a week
You don't need to have internet to do your anki, though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824972
yep you forgot all your nihongo you learned off of flashcards time to start over

>>18824973
honestly that pic prolly took more effort to make than the sakubee thing in the first place

[Anonymous No.]

"was believed to be" yeah by like two people, one of which ran away from a crazy house

[Anonymous No.]

Here's the other Sakubi pic that usually gets you banned. Get it while it's hot!

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824975
What language?

>10 fucking captchas to post this
I hate Google with a passion for this shit. I've wasted too much time in my life on these autistic fucking "pick all squares with a street sign on them" tasks because you never know if you're supposed to pick the squares that have only a tiny stripe of street sign on them. Fuck you google

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824996
>creative commons
>filthy tae kim pamphlet
Top shelf meme that is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824979
I'm only posting it to show them how much of a shitstorm there was over it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824996
cant believe someone would make something like this

make one for me

>>18825002
>>18824975
just get a 4chan pass and enter the posting fast lane

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825012
you should post the one that listed the crazy guy's int shitposting

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825021
Not sure what image you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825021
This?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825002
Serbian

The captcha makes no sense. Usually I can just click submit without filling it out and the post will go through. If that doesn't work, I can check the box and the check mark appears without having to actually solve a single captcha. I thought it was some bug with 4chanx but it's been like that for a year, then today it stopped working, coincidentally the same day when I made 5-6 times as many posts as usual.

[Anonymous No.]

Truly surprising to see the thread getting shat up by assblasted crossboarders again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825022
oh it was just a text post, easy to screenshot though

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824980
My company laptop doesn't accept anki because my it pals from the it department dont like it when stacy fucks their machines up. So we're all fucked. So I was prepared to do it on my phone. But no signal = no fun. I didn't buy the 25 buckaroo iphone app. And wont because lol ripoff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825002
>>10 fucking captchas to post this
That keeps happening to me lately as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825032
you're welcome for the zero difficulty unmasking my friend
can't believe they have this little self control lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825031
>If that doesn't work, I can check the box and the check mark appears without having to actually solve a single captcha.
Yeah, basically it tracks your mouse, scrolling movements and how much time you spend on which areas of the website and then uses that to determine how "human" you are, e.g. if you're just immediately scrolling to the bottom of the page to make a post it will probably think you're a bot.
It's really sketchy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825038
The anki app for iphonecucks is actually worth it imo. Runs really well, never had a problem with it. I much prefer doing reps on it than on a computer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825038
Ah, iPhone users. Sorry, dude. I forgot the iPhone anki app costs money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825030
that pics dope because none of my posts are in the jp djt one

proof that its you guys ruining it and not me : )

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824335
You should have started already.

[Anonymous No.]

Stop it with all these deep state machinations, please.

Do the Japanese have conspiracies? Who are their illuminati?Their Bilderbergs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825121
I do see a lot of lowercase posts in the /jp/ side, yet none in the /int/ side. There's definitely a correlation with lowercase and shitposts. Oh and get a job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825141
The only one I know of is that Jesus was actually a weeaboo
Not even shitposting

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825142
theres equal correlation with people who use the shift key

oh and get back to your job at the dick sucking factory lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825142
You don't know Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825141
They have lots of conspiracies actually, they're probably on par with america in that regard
For example: abe being a zainichi korean who wants to destroy and sell japan to other east asian countries
or even bettter: all earthquakes are actually artificially created

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825141
the japanese mafia is called "bad hop" and they are the baddest ninjas straight outta kawasaki southside

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4t8Fuk-SCQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825142
IF WE DON'T USE LOWERCASE IT'S A DIFFERENT BREED/CLASS/TIER OF SHITPOSTING

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825162
fuck off outta here with that shitty rap man

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825168
you trippin shits 超lit not 超shit

how about this one of the realest og ninjas of all time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQL6FMTnuyA

[Anonymous No.]

In 1 day in this thread I have managed to shit it up quite a lot, despite never having read any of the previous ones or having studied Japanese a day in my life. Don't worry, I move from general to general shitting them up so I won't be around after this. Have a good night.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825178
yeah that's better

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825185
dont worry even if you back down you cant hide from me

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825185
お疲れ様でした, I will continue to shit up the rest of the thread for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825190
the english part doesnt have the same amount of formality as the お疲れ様でした so its kind of jarring

[Anonymous No.]

me when i realize i forgot to do my reps

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825209
>お疲れ様でした, I will continue to shit up the rest of the thread for thou
fix'd

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825021
Don't you just mean this?
https://archive.whatisthisimnotgoodwithcomputers.com/int/search/text/jp%20djt/country/CA/

[Anonymous No.]

whats this guy saying https://streamable.com/gunpv

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825274
私は経書

[Anonymous No.]

Can you guys help me with this weird slang word どつきまわすぞ? how to translate that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825030
also not pictured: right sides corpse

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825345
It's obviously ''rotating punch''

[Anonymous No.]

I'm still working on learning Japanese but it's hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825354
おれも

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825354
Don't worry. You will be too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825365
>おれ

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825354
You can do it!

https://rutube.ru/video/9c6909da5a7b52123ee4e591fa781d0e/

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825354
Not as hard as I am rn

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825345
here you go dude meme dog explains your meme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrvW7S-orLo

[Anonymous No.]

Not sure where should i ask this.

Is there a way to study my deck in anki outside of daily review session? I heard about custom study, but will that affect my daily review count?
I'm only 2 weeks into my 2k/6k deck and got overwhelmed by all the new words.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825499
少しは日本語を勉強すればどうだ my ninja

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825499
Add steps to new cards, and lower starting ease to 175-200%. If you still struggle in a month, lower to 15 new cards a day, and then to 10 cards a day a month after that if problems persist.

[Anonymous No.]

Adding cute girls to my cards makes the grind feel nicer.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm doing 120 new cards today, wish me luck!

[Anonymous2 No.]

>>18822478
>is humble and patient
He is one of the biggest manchildren ever. Don't forget he lives off his parents and student loans. He could never make it in Japanese society, which is why he's now branching out into other languages to continue being an English teacher.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825861
Happy burnout

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825862
>Don't forget he lives off his parents and student loans
And most of DJT still live with their parents. I'd take the AJATT lifestyle over the DJT lifestyle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825897
>I'd take the AJATT lifestyle over the DJT lifestyle.
cool fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825923
I thought I told you to get a job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825933
I'm not the nigger thats been chimping out but its interesting you come here to shill AJATT and tell neets to get jobs while shitting on their learning methods.
That almost makes you look as bad as jamal honestly

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825943
I hate AJATTfags. I was only saying that if those were the lifestyle choices, having a real life and not living in your parent's basement is a better choice than being a basement dweller who makes horrible life decisions. But you should get a job too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825861
Make sure to submit your downfall post too like >>18811494
A few months of beginner churn and we can make a compilation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825998
Feeding season for 出来ないちゃん

[Anonymous No.]

>>18825800
Hang on, 汎 doesn't mean bread!

[Anonymous No.]

Question for people who are more knowledgeable with Japanese slang:

is ちょべりば ever really popular?

[Anonymous No.]

How do you guys not get distracted by video games and such so you can focus on Japanese?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18826257
you dont

[Anonymous No.]

>>18826257
Just play your video games in Japanese, ez.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18826257
i don't play video games
i just read japanese books and watch japanese tv

[Anonymous No.]

>>18826257
Some of us were raised by good parents who taught us self-discipline, patience, and to sort our lives out before doing something like learning a language. Get a job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18826110

[Anonymous No.]

>>18826404
If we were raised by good parents, we wouldn't be on /jp/ now would we.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18826404
>and to sort our lives out before
Where do you think you are?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18821435
>>18820446
>matt does psychedelic drugs
Is this the real secret to learning Japanese?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18826540
Wait, nevermind, I thought that was the link to the interview he did with that guy.

Guess I should've clicked it to check before instead of after posting.

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck is the difference between an intransitive verb and a verb conjugated to the passive form.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18826540
>>18826547
Regardless, the answer to your question is yes, by the way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18826675
を

[Anonymous No.]

>>18826696
I thought you couldn't use を with intransitive verbs.

[Anonymous No.]

ねむい

ねていい？

[Anonymous No.]

>>18826247
…久しぶりに聞いた
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/チョベリバ
>チョベリバという言葉自体は廃語（俗に言う「死語」）である。

[Anonymous No.]

>>18826933
ねむれば死んだよ。

[Anonymous No.]

>>18826944
Ah.

I guess its opposite, チョベリグ also suffered the same fate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18826961

[Anonymous No.]

>>18826969
yes,
http://zokugo-dict.com/17ti/cyoberigu.htm
>チョベリグとは「超 very good」の略で、(...)1996年には対語『チョベリバ』とセットで流行語大賞トップテンに入賞している。(...)チョベリグは現在、ほとんど使われない死語になっている。

[Anonymous No.]

>>18826994
>1996
What the fuck

I can't even read English at that time, how the fuck do I know these words.

[Anonymous No.]

What exactly does ヶ add to words? I saw both 逢魔刻 and 逢魔ヶ刻 and am wondering what difference there is if any.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827033
ヶ is the same が from 我が

[Anonymous No.]

ちょっとねる

おこしてくだｓ

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827102
You okay there oniichan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827108
あいつはもう...なくなった

[Anonymous No.]

わたしはもう・・ゲイ

[Anonymous No.]

ダークタワー

えいがにするの？

スザンナどうするの？

脚ないんだけど

スーザンどうするの

完全にトラウマシーンなんだけど

ラストどうするの

ラスボス戦が地味なんだけど

[Anonymous No.]

>it's a "anon can't sleep for more than 6 hours and feels drowsy and hazy as fuck while doing his reviews" episode

Tried going to sleep earlier, tried going to sleep later. Tried drinking less water so I don't have to get up to piss as much. Tried doing my reviews as soon as I'm awake, tried doing them after breakfast. Tried doing them before lunch. Tried doing them after lunch and a nap. Tried doing them at night. The fucking mind haze is always there and I only know it is because of the 1/10 days where I feel fully clear and able to focus.

WHY must I suffer like this? My next step is to try taking a caffeine pill an hour before reviews but after that I'm out of ideas. I just can't get that extra 2 hours of sleep during the night that I need.

[Anonymous No.]

わたくしはもう・・シットポーストしているのわ

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827327
How are you not able to sleep more than 8 hours? See a doctor, oniichan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827327
Exercise

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827327
eat healthy and exercise. this feeling is gonna get worse and worse as you age and get older, enjoy.

[Anonymous No.]

Decided to take the first step and start learning japanese today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827327
read more

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827327
Induce non-24 on yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827346
Not gonna make it

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827339
I have no clue. Till recently I've been able to. I get up to piss usually once around 4 hours after I fall asleep and then again around 6 hours after. Then I can't fall asleep again. Maybe my REM is getting fucked or something.
>>18827340
>>18827345
I didn't think of that, but I had been able to sleep fine when I was biking every night before bed. Definitely gonna pick that up again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827365
Nah I will. I've learnt another language already and I have a lot of free time and I stick with things once I begin them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827382
you have big prostate and yeah just bust your ass and avoid blue light for like an hour before you go to bed

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827390
you can stick with nihongo but will nihongo stick with you

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827396
I'll make it stick with me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827397
I'll make you stick to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827416
L-lewd!

[Anonymous No.]

What is the role of 「なれば」in "それは私ならば出来る"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827445
"If become"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827449
My first thought when I see 「なれば」is conditional form, so I initially understood the sentence as "If I could do that", but I am not sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827445
to show assertion in the weak ass ways nihongo often does

[Anonymous No.]

Is it normal that I can't write most kanji, but when I see them I instantly recognize which one it is? Take 交通事故 or 飛行機 for instance. If someone told me to write it on a piece of paper, I just wouldn't be able to do it. But as soon as I see it, I'm instantly like "oh, it's 'traffic accident' / 'airplane'". Is it normal?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827537
thats how it works because thats how you studied

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827537
If you never practice writing you wont be able to do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827543
>>18827559
Guess I'll have to do RTK at some point then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827572
you mean wtk writing the kanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827537
>production

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827537
I don't even write english on paper these days, I sure as fuck don't care about learning to write the kanji. If you can type it on a keyboard/phone it's fine, learn the 'general rules' of how to write kanji, look it up on your phone when necessary, and embrace the ワープロ馬鹿.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827445
>"それは私ならば出来る"
Not anybody else but I can do that.
(That might not be done by anyone else, but if I try, I will be able to do that.)

"If I could do that" = "それを私ができるならば"

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827578
Learning to write is literally one of the advertised goals of RTK my man.

[Anonymous No.]

abema's fishing channel is a blessing upon this world

[Anonymous No.]

>>18824972
No, you should never start over.
Even if you forgot 80% of the cards (unlikely), that's still ~300 cards you don't have to relearn from zero.
Just do your reviews and let the algorithm take care of the rest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827708
How did you reach this meaning? Where did "Nobody else but I" came from?

[Anonymous No.]

>神よ。。。神よありがとう
>中野さんの[xx]ありがとう
>ありがとうバスの暖房
I can't tell what that thing in [xx] was. Context is, that girl is 中野, she has telepathy and the text in red is the thoughts of the guy whose shoulder she accidentally slept on. Guy has a crush on 中野.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827716

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827716
What is this? Is this AbemaTV公式?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827762
「睡魔」じゃない？

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827824
Ahhh

Thanks, dude. Sorry for the simple question. Still having a hard time reading hardwritten kanji.

[Anonymous No.]

nice

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827747
それは私ならばできる
＝私ならばそれをできる
≒私は、それをできる　＆　私以外の人は、それを（多分）できない

Logically the last "=" is not accurate, but using "私ならば" instead of "私は"(normally) itself implies what I wrote above.
ちなみに：
それは私にしかできない
=私は、それをできる　＆　私以外の人は、それをできない

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827853
what is

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827892
構わずともよい
Nothing difficult to understand but it's always nice seeing more formal ways of conveying something
しなくてもいい > せずともよい

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827913
oh cool dude yeah i bet its real cool in the hentai scene later where she spreads her ass cheeks and says お気にせずにどうぞ

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827863
I see, that makes sense. Thanks, I really appreciate it!

[Anonymous No.]

>>18827938
Y- You enjoy the sex scenes?
I respect that but I'm here for a good story.

[Anonymous No.]

Hわいいです!

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828005
そうね

[Anonymous No.]

What does the に inside parenthesis mean here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828108
in

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828108
I think it would just mean that the に is optional?

You could say には or は. I assume the は isn't (optionally) omitted because it's less natural to omit the subject marker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828108
in (the town)
It's in parenthesis because it's optional.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828108
the same thing as the に in わたしたちには翼はない

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828129
>>18828130
Thanks

[Anonymous No.]

私にはゲイです

[Anonymous No.]

わたしにはゲイの友達はいる

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828164
>>18828185
Come on, m8, be more creative with this. Don't give up on this meme's potential yet

[Anonymous No.]

私庭ゲイです

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828185
I think が would've been a better choice in place of that second は

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828188
show me something then and i might owe you something then my ホモ達

>>18828198
its not in this case and its your assignment to figure out why in another amazing edition of musical particles

[Anonymous No.]

>Brainlet Tier
DRINK BEER

>Fluent Tier
This video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p9Il_j0zjc

This video has actually been so helpful in studying Hiragana.

[Anonymous No.]

芸者です

[Anonymous No.]

What's the best VN to read for someone who only knows how to read Hiragana and Katakana but limited Kanji?

Do any VNs even use Furigana?

[Anonymous No.]

眼医者です

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828231
Anything you can hook

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828231
visual games are for adults so what do you think

there might be some shit adaptation on a handheld videogame player for like a anime or something but otherwise theres prolly nothing dude

but you know what does have kana that you can prolly read https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCMx9DGl9Y0

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828198
わたしにはゲイの友達がいる
I have friends who is gay.

わたしにはゲイの友達はいる
I have friends who are gay but don't have friends who aren't gay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828275
>>18828198
わたしにはゲイの友達はいる
I have a friend who is gay but unfortunately he isn't my husband.
かもね

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828231
What compels people to capitalize random Japanese words?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828364
They think Japanese concepts are proper nouns and thus deserve capitalization? German influence? wHo KnowS.

[Anonymous No.]

lettercase was a mistake

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828396
YES WE SHOULD RETURN TO THE MAJUSCULES

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828396
This, but unironically.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828409
spacingisalsoamistake

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828409
you mean
this, but unironically

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828414
No, spacing serves a legitimate purpose.

[Anonymous No.]

so Sakki i was doing my Kanji`s flashcards when a flash of Satori Tubureru`ed my Kokoro`s Medamas and Watasi Wa Kangaeru`ed that perhaps Kono Michi Wa longway and i Sassoku Ni Nageru`ed them into the Gomi Bako lol

[Anonymous No.]

that's completely incomprehensible sorry

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828429
英語は失敗.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828429
what if i used Kanji`s and wrote the okurigana in Romanji`s

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828433
anata is supposed to use matigai there my nakama

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828472
what if you wrote everything in romanji like in seppuku and fucking killed yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828523
then id be fucking dead and wouldnt have any more great times posting together with you

i can do the first hanbun of that if mosi yokeleba tho

[Anonymous No.]

Hepburn was a fucking mistake.

[Anonymous No.]

hepburn might have been a mistake but it's significantly less bad than the alternative standards

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828633
No, Hepburn is the worst.

[Anonymous No.]

there is no world where hepburn is worse than nihon-shiki
if you disagree you're a tryhard weeb

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828633
>>18828674
Are you truly such a low effort piece of shit that you're too lazy to perform 1 (ONE) additional mouse click in your responses? Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.]

actually i perform a mouseclick and then delete the quote

[Anonymous No.]

it's absolutely no
>why do these stupid Japs use kanji?
kind of question, it's just about being consistent in their kanji writings
why do they write shit like this "蔽" or "喩"???

Is it really logistically impossible to transfer to newer writings that are consistent with the jōyō kanji writings? Is it such a hussle to change their appearance in a bunch of fonts for computers?

[Anonymous No.]

but is there a hepburn world thats worse than nippon siki world or vice versa

[Anonymous No.]

okay there might be a hepburn world that's worse than a nihonsiki world

[Anonymous No.]

minna genki?

[Anonymous No.]

Nihon-shiki gives me eye cancer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828674
moshi > mosi
yokereba > yokeleba

If you disagree, your genes are better off eliminated.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone that says nihon-siki is better than hepburn is obviously baiting, don't give them (you)'s

[Anonymous No.]

name one (1) standard romanization system that uses l instead of r

[Anonymous No.]

what do you think about using songs' lyrics for reading native Jap content at the very beginning? I guess they are better for vocab (which is heavily limited) than for sentences, but since you hear the song all the time you're bound to remember the new kanji's reading better.

[Anonymous No.]

listening to music is a good way to develop non-pitch-accent-related phonemic awareness but not much else

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828744
theres too much underlying meaning and implication for you to truly get much out of them than your low level face value dictionary fed understanding of the pieces

as long as you can accept that whatever you wanna do dude

[Anonymous No.]

How hard is the N1 compared to the N2?

[Anonymous No.]

if you know enough japanese to say "i know japanese" without context then the n1 and n2 are of nearly equal difficulty
however if you don't know japanese then you might consider there to be a significant gap

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828737
Hepburn is unironically fucking terrible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828733
what do you think about romanizing おう or おお

kentaro vs kentarou

ohtani vs ootani

: )

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828791
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVD0uLgtLOo&feature=youtu.be

it's a waste of time

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828817
im telling

[Anonymous No.]

Waapuro is undisputably the best romanization.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828813
This is pretty obvious and straight forward though.
おう -> ou
おお -> oo
kentarou. Why the fuck would you turn a long vowel into a short vowel.
ootani.
There is no reason to shit up Japanese with your dumb h.

If you think any of this is debatable, you probably have brain damage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828880
hook line and stinker

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828791
Doesnt matter they're both baby shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828896
>i-i-i was j-just baiting, I swear!

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828702
anyone this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828880
>Osaka
>Tokyo

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828740
Система Поливанова

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828231
If you have a 3DS you could download some Japanese games on them. Dragon ball heroes ultimate mission x has furi on all kanji, even in skill explanations iirc. Same with Dragon Quest 7.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829121
he wanted a visual game not dragonballz or dragonballz quest 69

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829144
Yea, but someone already mentioned that's not really a thing, so I thought I would mention some jrpgs that have a shitton of text in them on top of it all having furigana.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829154
oh well shit you mean to say games for kids have furigana just like manga for kids

i had no idea thank you

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829175
Yeah but that's a very recent concept so it's worth bringing up. In fact I think the 3ds is the first console to have a good pick of games with furigana. It's worth mentioning in my humble, lowly opinion because I never see people mention them as study material in these threads at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829405
i actually totally respect it when you put it that way because yes no one wants to read the shit they are capable of reading they want to smash their heads into the shit they are not

play videogames that use some text but arent all text all the time and your brain will make lots of connections to things

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829405
>>18829154
Stop replying to him. Can't you tell from his posts that he is mentally retarded?

>dragonballz quest 69

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829540
We are making on topic posts and you are making an off topic one to point out that you do not like another user.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829540
instead of tryin to control other people why not just control yourself

[Anonymous No.]

Look at how he baits people into replying. Don't fall for it. This is why we have strings of 400+ posts where no one says anything worth reading.

He will probably reply to this post with "my ninja", "lol", and a link to either a shitty rap video or the one about a kid pooping. He may also replace random English words with the Japanese equivalents. All in lowercase of course, unless he wants to pretend to be someone else, then he will use caps.

This will be my last post about it.

[Anonymous No.]

How much progress could I make spending ~30 minutes per day? Is that not enough?

I'm a computer programming and musician so my days already consist of practicing those heavily, if I need to devote an hour+ per day to learn jpn I couldn't justify it.

[Anonymous No.]

How much progress could I make spending ~30 minutes per day? Is that not enough?

I'm a computer programmer and musician so my days already consist of practicing those heavily, if I need to devote an hour+ per day to learn jpn I couldn't justify it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829656
it wont you literally cant control yourself

best regards in the next thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829709
Don't bother.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829709
ill give you the best advice anyone here could ever give you for a post like that

decide for yourself on goals where 30 minutes a day doing whatever dumb shit gives reasonable progress to meeting them

its probably impossible since your post is what it is in the first place but if you can do that much maybe you can find time to accomplish something with nihongo with your limited time

[Anonymous No.]

牽
that stroke order, wtf

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829709
You're not going to improve at a reasonable pace if your only contact with Japanese is 30 minutes a day. That being said, if you use those 30 minutes for reading, on weekends (or whatever days off you have) read more to make up for the lack of reading the rest of the time, and listen to Japanese audio while doing other things, you might be able to make somewhat ok progress. Even then you'd have to schedule yourself well and you're going to improve at a fraction of the speed you would be if you were putting even an hour in a day. There's also the issue of, when you start out and are going through a beginner's grammar guide or what have you, you're probably going to end up fucking yourself if you only have 30 minutes a day.

Realistically speaking, the answer to your question is nonetheless "no". Pretty much no skills worth gaining are attainable with only 30 minutes a day of practice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829798
This is by far one of my least favorite kanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829798
That stroke is probably the most obvious one given the kanji, it's just a weird kanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18828791
I went from 172/180 N2 to 137/180 N1 a year later with only a moderate amount of learning (probably less than an hour per day).
So if you did well on the N2, it shouldn't be too bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw wake up
>have the motivation to read
>can't because i have errands
>finish them
>no longer feel like reading and can't regain the want
help

[Anonymous No.]

Hey, so for my first book I thought it'd help if I read side by side with a translation. But then I realized, heck, it could really help my grammar if I made a deck. So here it is. I might be the first person to ever turn an entire light novel into an Anki deck! I had to kind of fudge some things because some of the sentences were missing in the translation (so I translated them myself to the best of my abilities). Anybody want it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829831
>reading manga
>really want to keep reading but it is already 5AM
>go to sleep
>wake up and don't feel like reading anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829840
Sorry, but this is a terrible idea, Anonymous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829840
im sure you put time and effort into it but this is some grade a 愚かさ

fuckin gambare dude

[Anonymous No.]

How do I differentiate between big つ and small つ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829876
when reading, I mean, but also how do you type the small つ on a Japanese keyboard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829858
>>18829870
Isn't this what they meant by "use sentence decks" and read more?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829876
The big one is as big as the other characters.
The small one is smaller.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829887
xtu

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829876
How do you differentiate between big O and small o?
ltsu works for me っ

[Anonymous No.]

how do people get the backwards b

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829853
How could you want to keep reading when manga isn't reading?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829904
>>18829902

つっっ thanks guys, xtu and ltsu work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829827
Cool. I passed N2 with 111/180, and I feel like I improved a lot since the N2.
I feel like I can do it, lads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829876
Bruteforce.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829887
here's a website i found where they explain this
http://www.textfugu.com/season-4/social-learning/9-3/
thought it was a pretty good guide but it doesn't explain everything
but basically you either type the word you intend to write like しゅっしん where it just forms itself automatically, or you just type an "x" before the character you want to write like if you want to type the little つ just type xtsu and you'll get っ

hope this helps

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829888
The idea of sentence decks is that you add sentences with 1 thing you don't understand, either a word or a piece of grammar. You don't add literally every sentence you read.

And read more means reading a book or something. Anki isn't reading.

>>18829887
put an l or an x before a character to make it smaller

>>18829917
If it isn't reading, then what is it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829944
The proper term would be watching. Viewing is also acceptable.

[Anonymous No.]

My black weebfu https://youtu.be/K5Kr5Z5q3jI

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829798
>writing
>>18829827
>JLPT
>>18829840
>sentence cards

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830007
To be fair, mine was a slightly higher effort than average shitpost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830007
>didn't give me a (You) for talking about the JLPT
I feel kinda left out 2bh

[Anonymous No.]

>>18819995
>grammatically correct = good english, haha!
ESLs out

[Anonymous No.]

>>18819969
all he did was misspell one word, stop being so fucking autistic for once in your life

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829985
nice shes legit and rockin the backwards starter cap

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830201
Whoops meant to give it out to >>18828791 but clicked the wrong post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829985
lmao im actually just fuckin dead http://youtu.be/q23okaDnFTs#t=58

wanna rewrite those subtitles so bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>18819730
>super deformed CGs
nice

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830396
Typical, anon-chan...

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830453
?_? 何か言いたいこととかありますか

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830470
Okay, I've only just learned all the hiragana so you either type all the kanji out in hiragana or write it in English because I'll be damned if I use the Google botnet to translate this shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829773
>>18829789
>>18829804
appreciate the honest answers. id like to learn but its not a high enough priority given my jobs and other hobbies.

[Anonymous No.]

What are some interesting mnemoics that you used to memorize characters. For た and だ, the two strokes on the right look like they're showing something off, so it looks like they're saying "Ta-da".

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830510
>mnemonics

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830520
I'm still learning

[Anonymous No.]

>>18819487
Should I do Heisig alone for a couple months or should I do Heisig+Tae Kim at the same time?

Do I need to dedicate my time to just one thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830483
我的忍者 别耍花样啊

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830510
>For た and だ
One has the two marks and one doesn't. t -> d
Never understood the mnemonic meme.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830510
if you just write the kanas 69 times each in your fuckin ノート like youre supposed to youll never forget them and need weird mental cues to remember them

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830566
Don't do rtk man come on you're better than that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830566
i dont know what your goals are so i cannot prescribe you a personalized nihongo plan

[Anonymous No.]

reminder that you're a limp dick if you have fewer than 300k reviews

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830587
It's called a ten-ten and it's used to modify hiragana so that they're voiced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830604
Well what did you do/would tell others to do? Also I guess my main thing is whether I should do Kanji/Vocabulary or whatever + Grammar or just Grammar first.

[Anonymous No.]

Yeah, that's it. Reading mangas to learn Japanese.

By the way, does anyone know the first syllable that the dad's saying in the top left?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830687
Looks like the pleasure of being cummed inside

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830687
shame on a bonkra ass ninja

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking ITHVNR, なんじゃこりゃ! Auto suppress repetition is cheked

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830687
nvm, I can't read this fucking shit. Back to the Anki decks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830723
>can't read it all
>gives up
where's that medaka box edit where it's the anti-guy talking about how he'll learn via reading and how he'll prove everyone wrong, and then at the bottom it says "next chapter: already giving up?!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830723
That means you need to brush up on hiragana.

[Anonymous No.]

>presenting random words in kana
Why is core so shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830717
restart it twice

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830739
exactly.
>>18830737
no, I just recently learned all the hiragana but it's hard to read sometimes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830626
what can you show me after 300 thousand literal flashcards

[Anonymous No.]

Should I master memorizing all the hiragana first or should I move on and learn the katakana and study both at the same time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830754
Mate you are fucking illiterate, go learn some more katanakanas before tackling on manga

[Anonymous No.]

who /quitjapanesebutstillcometothethread/ here

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830775
??

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830762
ﾌｯｸﾖｳｳ!

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830687
もう　すぐ　だ　ぞ

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830785
Don't ?? me cunt. I'm giving you valuable advice here. Don't go reading without even knowing hiragana, or you'll end up like those guys who genuinely think yotsubato is hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830798
How can I tell when the characters are different words? They're all one single line.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830799
?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830800
Not being a mental retard might help

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830800
Youlearnthewordssoyoucanrecognizethem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830799
but I'm not the guy reading Yotsubato?? But thanks. I'm thinking you mean that I should learn all the katakana and then master the hiragana and katakana at the same time.

[Anonymous No.]

Read the guide you muppets

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830799
It is.

[Anonymous No.]

thats right read the guide muppets so you can better dance for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830816
t. N3-kun

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830828
t. N2-tan

[Anonymous No.]

why don't have a YouTube channel where you give reactions to Japanese videos and live off the ad money?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdxrDhHzXcw

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830816
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.]

yotubato is hard if you dont know japanese and japanese culture and lifestyle

read doraemon instead all new fledglings currently itt

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830648
Not RTK that's for sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830751
Does not help :C

[Anonymous No.]

>>18829798
>the second stroke of 幺 is interrupted, becomes the two strokes of 冖
>then 幺 is completed
素晴らしい
晴
ら
し
い
It's these interplay between radicals' stroke orders that gives me the heebies sometimes. Makes learning stroke order worth it in my opinion

[Anonymous No.]

Dumb question. What does 2k and 6k mean in regards to an anki deck? One I assume is the number of words?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830976
They contain words from here.
https://iknow.jp/content/japanese

[Anonymous No.]

Is learning Japanese possible?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830994
only After you consume the samurai spirit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830994
n o

[Anonymous No.]

二本後画出木内

[Anonymous No.]

>>18830993
So 2k/6k contains the top 2k most used words from the 6k?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18831022
Contains both 2k and 6k. The slash doesn't mean "out of", but rather a separator.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18831022
It's 1 deck mate, the first 2000 words are core 2k, and the entire deck of 6000 words, including those 2000 is core 6k

[Anonymous No.]

>曰
fuck you

[Anonymous No.]

>>18831049
I can guarantee you that you will never ever confuse that character with 日 when reading, because it's used in a completely different way where 日 wouldn't make sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18831060
>completely different way where 日 wouldn't make sense
Which is why it confused me.