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Do you like ZUN artstyle?

>> No.18801852
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18801852

It's charming but he seriously needs to learn basic anatomy

>> No.18801892 [DELETED] 

It's anti turbo normie, so yes I like it

>> No.18802232

>>18801836
Yes, though I guess you can call it an acquired taste. The longer you like Touhou the more you learn too respect and appreciate ZUN's art. Also you've gotta respect the fact that he could easily have someone else do the art for the games but still does it himself. Its also very distinctive, which I consider a good thing.

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>>18801836
I like it. Since I play lots of doujin games, I'm completely used to this sort of thing. ZUN's art is not any worse than other doujin game art and that's all Touhou is to me. I don't put it on the same level as high budget professional games like some people seem to.

>> No.18802490

>>18802232

Very much this. At first it's easy to dislike it but then you start to appreciate its charm.

>> No.18802516

>>18802232
Well said. Just like his music, it's something you won't get everywhere, something original, distinct, even if it may not be objectively great. I prefer such work from those excellent pieces made by people who learned all the methods from all the books. It has a soul, it's made with love and you can see it very well. The same could be said about the whole series overall too.

>> No.18803069

>>18801836
Depends on the game. I really like EoSD's portraits for example. But like >>18802232 said, ZUN's artstyle is special because is distinctive and done by him.

>> No.18803076

>>18801836
It grew on me pretty quickly.

>> No.18803917

>>18801836
I think it's really cute.

>> No.18803944
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18803944

yees

>> No.18803968

>>18801836
I actually think ZUN is a great artist and I know I'm going to get mass replied to by people for this opinion. But he knows that he isn't actually really good at drawing and instead focuses of making each of his characters have a unique design. think about it really throughout all of the different touhou games you're almost never in doubt which 2hu is which, and that's because ZUN knows how to make them different from each other. this also extends to fanart, you can have big boobs fat Patchy or loli Patchy drawn by various people, but you're never in doubt that they were drawn to be Patchy because of her signature purple striped outfit.

>> No.18803979

>>18803968
>throughout all of the different touhou games you're almost never in doubt which 2hu is which,
They all look the same without their hats.

Also those are shadows of folds on her outfit, not stripes, according to ZUN

>> No.18804003

>>18803979
Yes but their hats are part of their design, to take their hats is to kill them. It's just like how depictions of saints had symbols of their sainthood depicted with them in art.

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>>18803968
>I actually think ZUN is a great artist
Sort of agree with this, but only for the way he designs clothes. But then again,
>sees Hecate and Sanae

>> No.18804135

love it

>> No.18804156

I like it, doesn't means I think it's "good", but I'd never want him to change it.

>> No.18804603
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>>18801836
I absolutely love it, and wish he would make some sort of artbook.

>> No.18804661

>>18804026
What's wrong with Hecate and Sanae?

>> No.18804773

>>18804661
slutty outfits

>> No.18804808

>>18804773
Sanae is not a in a slutty outfit!

>> No.18805757

>>18801836
Off course, fantastic artist. One of the very bests

Retard: artsyle != pics

>> No.18806026
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>>18804603
I don't know why most of his side things are thousand times better than the game portraits, they look pretty nicely.

>> No.18806038

>>18803968
>you can have fat patchy
have her ruin all patchy threads, fucking fatfag motherfuckers need death

>> No.18806660

>>18804773
It's a green reimu.

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>>18806038
Hi :3

>> No.18808049

When I see ZUN's art and see everything that it spawned, I think, "Yeah, I can do that." It gives me confidence

>> No.18810192

>>18806993
Die, be executed fatfags!

>> No.18811223

>>18808049
But you can't do ZUN-tier music.

>> No.18811918

>>18801836
It's pretty charming. Although that maybe the Stockholm Syndrome speaking.

>> No.18814791

I want to see characters like Tenshi or Kasen being drawn by ZUN

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>>18814791

>> No.18815601

art are not drawings, silly ignorants
when will you ever learn

>> No.18815899

>>18815601
Drawings are a form of artistic expression

>> No.18817882

>>18815899
no thanks sherlock
pls say something relevant

Every fag here is ignorant enough to think "art = drawing"
"ZUN art" means "ZUN drawings" for you tards
He created a whole world. Art = philosophy, ideals, etc; but nope, ignorant fags go only for "lee drawings xddd"

you can't be this dull

>> No.18818452

>>18817882
your mum

>> No.18821180

Art:
1. mass noun The expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power.
‘the art of the Renaissance’
‘great art is concerned with moral imperfections’
‘she studied art in Paris’

1.1 Works produced by human creative skill and imagination.
‘his collection of modern art’
as modifier ‘an art critic’

1.2 Creative activity resulting in the production of paintings, drawings, or sculpture.
‘she's good at art’

From Oxford Dictionary. So yeah, art is both those things and you are just a pretentious faggot.

>> No.18822452

>>18821180
>pretentious fag
Funny, that's what retards say to musician
Still seeig youbare ignorant enough to do copypaste (as you aren't even able to think by yourself, mankind whims) and ignore the bigger picture: "art != drawings"
That's how ignorant you are to even deny this fact alone. You cant see the bigger picture and you tink that I am saying "drawings are not art"

What a pathetic soul, not being able to even reason and think over. Expected, as I am dealing with a fag that thinks "pic = art > everything else".

Keep sucking bland balls and saying that art is synonymous of pictures

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>>18822452

>> No.18822689
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Talking about zun artstyle, this Marisa of PoDD wasn't drew by zun right?

>> No.18822706

>>18804603
Looking at this could be that he's just bad at coloring.

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>>18822689
There's this.

>> No.18823484

>>18822567
You could have cropped this better.

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>>18823484

>> No.18823553
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>>18801836
Zun reminds me of one American(I think) "artist", he was mentally disabled not because Zun is disabled, but because his art style was unpolished and he was also drawing little girls.

The artist I'm referring to lived a lonely life as a janitor in some hospital. The artist was drawing them through his whole life and it was the only thing he was doing.

There is just something about Zun's art... something magical... like the imperfection makes it special.

>> No.18823574

>>18822689
He traced a lot of stuff during PC-98. If you look at HRtP for example the way Reimu looks in the results screen, the endings and the score screen is totally different

>> No.18823582

>>18801836
>Do you like ZUN drawing style?*

fixed

>> No.18827649

>>18806026
He once mentioned that one of his rules in making character portraits for his games is that it should be done quickly. That image you posted is one of his works which he made in his spare time.

>> No.18827680
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Oh shit, it's a "people mistake technical skill with the work actually being interesting."

/ic/ is a menace.

>> No.18827814

>>18801836
I'm indifferent to his current style, but his old art is pretty nice >>18804603
Digital art just doesn't work for some people

>> No.18828461
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Aside the discussion of "good art" vs. "bad art", we all can agree that is a unique style, whose many artists struggle to achieve it.

>> No.18828478

>>18827680
/ic/ is a harsh place. Art itself is something hard to perfect

>> No.18828488

It's alright. It looks way better before he colors it.

>> No.18828552

>>18828488
I wonder why is that?

>> No.18828965

>>18828552
Coloud hides all of the small lines and scribbles so the finished thing looks flat and not as interesting

>> No.18829495

>>18828461
Thing is art aren't pics

>> No.18830142

>>18828965
But that's something particular to Zun's style. Is he bad at shadowing?

>> No.18832862

>>18823553
yore talking about henry darger right? if so i can totally see what youre talking about, the passion put in by both of these artists is very visible

>> No.18836070

>>18801836
His dresses are cute.
Other than that, he sucks balls. Good thing he managed to caught good artists attention.

>> No.18839994

Just one year with a tutor practicing everyday actually would make ZUN pro level.

>> No.18840044

Not the best art out there but don't get why people shit on it so much. Really isn't that bad

>> No.18840076
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The worst part about ZUN's art is that it's inconsistent, even in the same game.

At its best, it's actually not bad at all (or maybe I've just grown too accustomed to it). You could look at just one portrait like pic related and say it's mostly fine. Then you look at Reimu's portrait from the same game, and... what the fuck happened to her hand?

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>>18840076
Yes, i really dislike Reimu art in LoLK, it's bad compared with the DDC Reimu.

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>>18829495
Contain your autism and post more ZUNart

>> No.18841265

>>18801836
I like Ryukishi07s artstyle.

>> No.18841281
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>there are people who think ZUN's art is objectively bad
I bet they think ONE's art in Mob Psycho 100 would be bad too.

>> No.18841298

>>18841281
They know shit about art. You see, they think art are drawings and forget everything else, ignoring the wonderful world and genre ZUN has created

>> No.18841321

>>18841298
Fucking hell man, art hasn't got only one meaning, you gotta read the context. Don't tell me you're truly autistic.

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>tfw you can beat the shit outta everyone in this thread
Feels good

>> No.18841449

>>18841321
You are treating art as a synonymous of drawings, for Gods sake. Dont know why you are that dumb to not understand.
There is no other context - art is everyting, not an individual language or an individual thing (drawings).

Jesus.
My turn: ZUN composes awesome music < his art is excellent, why? because he composes great music. Art = music

>> No.18841486

good god

colloquially when people refer to "artstyle" which the OP explicitly used, they mean how they draw. no, its not entirely accurate to the entire meaning of art but it is a component of it, and no amount of crying on a slow board on 4chan is going to change what people think when they hear that word

this shit happens in every fucking thread about ZUNs drawings.

>>18841338
who are you quoting

>> No.18841544

>>18841486
>"if i say thatred is white then shut up because i am talking that that colour xd!"
If tomorrow people will believe this, should I just shut up and allow the ignorance??

Ignorants, that's the point, which you proved, "doesn't matter what it really is, I meant it and you shut up for correcting me". Yeah, OP used said term; should I clap? hell no. He, aswell as every other tard, got things wrong.
Ignorangts who don't give a shit about anything, and you expect me to take your word??

Stop being so damm blind. You are openly whining about ZUN "art", when in reality you are only talking about his drawings; and you believe you know shit about what you are saying. A fag who doesn't even try

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>>18841281
ONE vs ZUN is a fun topic.
ONE is better for manga in general though, his paneling flows so well.

>> No.18841939

>>18841449
I treat it as such because it can be treated as such and it is the meaning which results from the context of the discussion. It's in the fucking definition. Words can have more than one of those, don't you know? Go actually read a book instead of being a pretentious pseudointelligent faggot you are right now.

>> No.18842017

>>18841265
Me too, but in the context of the games. I think ZUN's is better overall.

>> No.18842062

>>18840093
that fucking left hand

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>>18804026
I kmow Hecatia look like straight out of the Hot Topic, but Sanny is moderm style shrinemaiden, nothing wrong with her.

>> No.18843542

>>18840076
Am I the only one that thinks that Junko's ears are too big?

>> No.18843550

>>18843542
I think they're super cute.

>> No.18843594

>>18843550
Her ears? Sorry, but I'm not into that...

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>>18801836
Yes, it's amazing.

>> No.18845578

>>18804026
Hecatia is amazing but I at least acknowledge that I'm in the minority in thinking that. What's wrong with Sanae though?

>> No.18845588

>>18845578
nothing just people following the slut meem xd, as always.

>> No.18845600

>>18839994
He already pro level, in both senses of the word.

>> No.18845605

>>18845588
Sanae is a good girl!

>> No.18845651

>>18845572
Why do you keep bumping threads?

>> No.18846411
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>>18840093
HSiFS Reimu is really nice too

>> No.18846530

>>18803968
He's a good designer, but I wouldn't call him a good artist.

>> No.18847094

>>18846530
I think he's a good artist, but people could argue for him not being good in technical skill.

Although, I'd even go as far to say that he continued to 'learn technical skill the wrong way' and gain the unique style he has now. Which, by technicality would even make him good in technical skill. It might sound like I'm jumping through logic hoops, but one of the endgame skills of good artist after learning anatomy is to learn to ignore natural anatomy and be creative with it. Did he ever learn to be good at anatomy? God no. But I think he had his style, he looked at it, and said 'this is fine as it is' and simply improved the 'style' that he had.

>> No.18847807

>>18841939
"Drawings" isn't the fucking definition of art you retarded ignorant. You are that stupid to even understand

"drawings" IS NOT THE DEFINITION OF ART, how dull can you be??
Art are ideas and everything that moves he said artists goddammit, me drawing, me making a song, me making a dance move, me writing a story, me taking a photo, etc isn't the fucking definition of art

You are that awful and blind. It's the second time you say the TYPICAL word "pretentious", as exepcted of someone who doesn't give a sit about what they are talking about. You are that ignorant and call ther pseudointelligent because someone else knows something you obviosly don't.
No little kid, art is art, no drawing, no music sheet, no anything else; just art, a set of of view and performance of a person to comunicate or express something > through different medium, such as visuals, photography, music, dance, etc- you see?? "drawings" is but a fragment of the "visual arts" family. You see? "visual arts", not "art". A fucking little drawings isn't above everything else. That's like saying "art means a song" or "art means a movie", etc

Stop being a freaking capricious kid ignoring actual, proper and true meanings
>"i use this because i want to xdd fuck off"

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yes

>> No.18847943

>>18847807
Now this is a familiar style of posting. In which board have I seen it before?

>> No.18847960

>>18841544
>>18847807
nobody gives a fuck

>> No.18851105

I thought this was happy thread

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>> No.18851339

>>18847960
This, stop embarrasing yourself.

>> No.18851347

>>18846411
Yes i love Zun artstyle in HSiFS, Aya looks pretty cute too!

>> No.18851368

>>18851333
good draw

>> No.18851379
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>>18801836
I associate it with one of two things:

1.) Whole-numbered danmaku games by ZUN
2.) Ciryes YouTube parodies

I you don't like ZUN art in your games you can always just patch them to alphes-style art with thcrap.

>> No.18851442
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>>18851347
Very very cute!

>> No.18851845

>>18851379
Any opinions on the fr00sk art? The guy is famous.

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>>18851379
>I you don't like ZUN art in your games you can always just patch them to alphes-style art with thcrap.

Absolutely fucking disgusting.

>> No.18851874

>>18851869
Touhou 9 artstyle was really good too!

>> No.18851876

I like ZUN artstyle, it's weird (maybe) but it's the seal of touhou, it's incredible how popular touhou was without any canon fanservice or something (even without an anime, gacha game,nothing just zun with his game)

>> No.18851884

>>18851442
The leaves in the skirt! Zun is improving in his artstyle he drew better hands this time.

>> No.18851892
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18851892

Original Suika in Zun artstyle was very cute!

>> No.18852109

yes and it peaked at UFO

>> No.18852131

>>18851876
>it's incredible how popular touhou was without any canon fanservice or something
Consider that there are many, many games that come out. Touhous popularity is the combined popularity of like 30 games, not just one or two games that were well loved and ended up with anime and stuff. It's also had a bunch of official manga, side stories, and music CDs too. It's a very large franchise.

>> No.18855314

>>18852131
It exploded in popularity after EoSD, and that was way before any manga or side stories.

>> No.18857333

>>18852131
I know but the game in the beginning was nothing but a Danmaku game>>18855314 that's what i was trying to say.

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It's adorable.

>> No.18866840

>>18862538
Cute artstyle

>> No.18866876

>>18851845
underage get out

>> No.18867988

>>18851339
>is ignorant
>tries to evade being called out
I guess fags really do prefer vulgarity over education. Then they complain why their population is dumb as it is


>>18847960
Hence what I said >>18841544
>Ignorangts who don't give a shit about anything
Thank you for proving me right

>> No.18868037

>>18867988
even now, nobody cares

>> No.18868861

Someone ban this faggot already, damn it.

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>>18801836
kamS does it best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNjBAbr-1n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvwKJXwsKGg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYuNdIUwkf0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh-oDu7DGkE

>> No.18869275

>>18867988
Keep going with your retardation and elitism, everyone wants to read your thoughts about that in /jp/ !

>> No.18869289

>>18868982
sick

>> No.18873236

>>18866876
Why are you hating on the guy who made Marsie x Asr00l a thing?

>> No.18879101

I don't like ZUN art

>> No.18885804

>>18879101
wow what a gay

>> No.18889485

>>18801836
It's an acquired taste.

>> No.18893704

>>18823553
Oh hey, I know this story, the entire thing is pretty intriguing and interesting.
I actually think that the story of Henry is kinda similar to Chris Chan (but in era without internet), his drawings were way more worthy than Chris, even if quite strange.

>> No.18893966

>>18879101
lmao gay

>> No.18894000

>>18806026
It might be cuz, according to an interview, he draws all the characters very quickly for the games which in turn kinda loses its quality

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>>18822706
>>18828488
>>18828965
You guys are right, proof of that is that Th9 probably has the best quality art in a main game, ZUN made the drawings but someone else colored it (I think alphes), because the game had too many characters he needed external help.

Then you compare Th9 to Th10 and it goes to complete shit (probably his worst art in windows era), he is slowing recovering and getting better ever since, nothing too big considering that MoF was 11 years ago, a person wanting to grow could go from nothing to michaelangelo if trained for 11 years, ZUN doesn't care about making high quality art, he probably believes that avoiding making something laughable like zombie Reimu and deformed Satori is more than enough.

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>>18803968
she's not even supposed to have stripes on her outfit, that was him being shit at shading folds. now it's too late because everyone drew her with stripes until it became canon.

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>>18894255
the watercolor-styled art in PoFV was so good, every portrait looked great. while the art is okay now, i really wish he would go back to how he drew in Th9

>> No.18899516

>>18895076
I think that's because Alphes helped him.

>> No.18900454

>>18895038
fatso!

>> No.18900488

>>18899516
Unfortunately Alphes also degraded massively, the art in HM is fucking awful.

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