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18654357 No.18654357 [Reply] [Original]

I am a depressed salaryman working in Tokyo. I have come to the realization that I really really fucking hate my job.

The other day I saw someone post a patreon of some guy who makes like 5k usd a month from translating untranslated hentai. I would like to start doing this (fluent in nip and English already.)

How would I go about getting a following? Is there a certain blog type that is best suited to releasing hentai translations? Also, how do I know what is in "high demand" for translations that would help me get a fanbase?

I haven't really downloaded anime or manga since my high school 8 years ago, but Is TokyoTosho still a good resource for Raws?

>> No.18654381

Keep in mind that making money-worthy translations takes more than just knowledge of two languages.

>> No.18654398

>>18654357

Post an example of your work for starters.

>> No.18654416

>>18654381
I understand this and am prepared to learn how to properly edit text translations and make it look nice. I have basic skills with photoshop so I think if I read around online I should be able to find some tutorials to help me with this.

I am not worried about the "worthiness" of my translations at all. I spend my entire day speaking, writing, and reading complex Japanese with my coworkers and clients so I do not think I will run into any issues making awkward translations.

I am just not sure of what kind of blogs people usually go to for their translated hentai/how I should go about getting established.

>> No.18654417

Just get a job as an actual translator, don't translate porn for stupid lazy millenial scum.

>> No.18654423

>>18654398
I translate business contracts that I cannot post on here without breaking non-disclosure agreement laws.

>> No.18654427

>>18654417
But I want to work at home and not have to go to my shitty Japanese office and deal with my shitty Japanese coworkers every day.

>> No.18654440

>>18654427
I'm sure it's possible to telecommute translation jobs. It'll be a lot more secure than a job translating porn anyways.

>> No.18654443

>>18654423
Then you'd be better than most people out there.
Get yourself on exhentai, browse the forums, download an image editor and try your hand. The money will not come for a while until you build your name and a solid reputation, however.

>> No.18654454

>>18654440
Yes this is true but to be honest I am a degenerate who would prefer to translate erotic prepubescent Chinese girl cartoon magazines instead of translating business contracts.

>> No.18654459

>>18654443
Thanks for the tip anon, I will start looking into it.

>> No.18654482

VNs sound like they could be lucrative - it's a lot of text after all, and the demand is there in the west. But also seems like it would be hard to market yourself to a company for that.

>> No.18654500

>>18654482
I have also considered this but feel like this has more potential for landing me in a legal quagmire. If I translate and distribute some VN I fear that I would be sued or presented with a C&D. I could always try applying for a VN company here in Japan but then I would just be moving from one shitty Japanese office life to another.

>> No.18654512

>>18654423

I was referring to any attempt at Raws translations.

>> No.18654514

>>18654357
regularly translate entire tanks of doujins and you will get following in no time, I'd start with popular hentai websites such as e-hentai to get yourself known, then eventually move onto different sites.

>> No.18654527

>>18654512
I haven't attempted yet, I plan on trying from here on out.
>>18654514
Thanks anon. Hopefully I can make a living doing this so I can go and shit on my boss's desk and live a relaxed NEET lifestyle again.

>> No.18654529

>>18654500
I think he meant that you could try doing it legitimately, i.e.\ translate at home in Japan for a company that has made a deal with the original creators. If you're good with computers and people, you could even try to make deals with VN creators yourself and start your own company.

>> No.18654538

>>18654529
Oh I see. This is actually a good action plan but I definitely need to get some experience translating this type of material before I would have the confidence to apply for one of these jobs.

>> No.18654594

>>18654538
It sounds like it might be best if you translated for a while as a focused hobby before quitting your day job.

>> No.18654607

>>18654594
Yeah this is what I am planning on. I am really quite miserable at my job though and hope that I can make something of this.

>> No.18654645

>>18654607
maybe a little off topic but how is to work in japan? it's true that they work a lot of hours?

>> No.18654663

>>18654645
I work 9-6 standard hours and have to work overtime occasionally. My company is a "white" company though so I at least get paid for overtime and am not worked as bad as what the national average seems to be.

I have friends in architecture who work 6 day weeks 10-9 every day so I shouldn't complain. The Japanese work environment is an incredibly oppressive, not fun, boring hellhole that I could easily spend an entire thread and several hours bitching about.

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>>18654663
I don't think 9-6 plus occasional paid overtime sounds that bad...

>> No.18654715

>>18654707
The hours aren't terrible. It is the work environment and the kind of work I am doing. It's pretty stressful, I've seen fully grown adults breakdown and literally start crying in the middle of the workday.

>> No.18654722

>>18654715
Millenials are so delicate

>> No.18654723

>>18654715
If you say so...

>> No.18654737

>>18654722
I primarily work with old Japanese men and a few Christmas cake office ladies.

>> No.18654741

>>18654663
I was in a similar situation a couple years ago. Compared to my native Japanese counterparts I had it pretty good, but still not near the standards I'd expect in my native country.

It's worth looking for a new day job though.That way you'll feel happier in the short term and have a safety net to support you while you build your businesses. Even the simple act of browsing career sites can make you feel a lot better.

Anyway, good luck man.

>> No.18654751

>>18654715
why is the environment bad?

>> No.18654758

>>18654741
>Even the simple act of browsing career sites can make you feel a lot better.
Isn't that just escapism?

>> No.18654767

>>18654758
Not if you're serious about looking for a new job. You need something to give you hope until things turn around.

>> No.18654779

>>18654741
Thanks anon, you seem to understand my situation. It is exactly as you describe it; I have it better than my Japanese coworkers but it is still shit compared to what I would have in my own country.

I really want to own my own business or make something people can enjoy. I would take a smaller salary if it resulted in me getting to experience people deriving enjoyment from something that I have created. For the time being I will just update my LinkedIn and start browsing career sites though.

>> No.18654962

>>18654357
I'd start by putting out a couple high quality translations on exhentai and other places to let people know who you are and put it out there that you do commissions, then go from there. Get into more communities and such. Probably going to take a couple years before you can make a living off it.

I'd also recommend doing doujin/parody works for building word of mouth as there's no risk of them getting C&D'd so they'll be up everywhere forever. Some H magazines are getting licensed in English, I'd avoid those unless you get a commission for one. With a commission you don't have to worry about rights since you just send it to whoever bought it and then they share it or not.

Check with the other guys doing it to get an idea for commission rates.

>> No.18654977

>>18654962
It seems like the general consensus is to start with exhentai so I'll start with this route. I was thinking of focusing more on doujin for exactly this reason.

>> No.18655069

I'm a bored salaryman working in Tokyo but I get paid too much to quit

Tried hitting on most of the girls in my office to make things more interesting but it never goes anywhere

>> No.18655101

>>18654417
Are you seriously trying to imply that evdrybody, who doesn't know japanese and wan't to understand what they are masturbating to ,is a mellenial and a scum?

>> No.18655242

Just be truNEET

>> No.18655307

I'm married but I feel so isolated working in Tokyo lately

Any good place online to meet people? Or should I just go back to meeting random chicks from random language exchange apps?

>> No.18655316

>>18655307
Go out with your wife you piece of shit

>> No.18655363

>>18654357
Hey anon, how did you learn japanese?

>> No.18655515

>>18654416
Try bugging oliver over at hentairules dot net.

>> No.18656068

>>18655307
>>18655316
lol

>> No.18656101

>>18655363
They're a Salaryman. I'm guessing they're native.

>> No.18656199

>>18654663
I work at manufacturing company in Japan and they demand the office worker to work 7-4. Which is bullshit since we were expected to go home at 6 at the very least, and that's not counting overtime. I hate a lot of things in my job but one thing i hate the most is waking up 6 am everyday. That and they expect us to come in weekends at least twice a month.

If only they make the work hour start at 9, i'll gladly put up with any office related bullshit.

>> No.18656252

And here I am thinking about getting into Japanese gamedev company.

>> No.18656267
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18656267

Salaryman reporting in, I work in Shinjuku and my co-workers are great, hours suck though start at 10:00 every day but what are you going to do

>> No.18656299

>>18656267
Do you get 2 days off a week? I heard it's not uncommon for ppl to work 6 days a week.

>> No.18656311

Do a bunch of free work. As self serving as this is, it's probably the best way to get your name out there.

You could try looking for interesting stuff tagged translation_request on danbooru. This has the advantage of not needing any image editing work, just the built-in notes system.

http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=translation_request

It's mostly standalone images but there are comics in there too.

The best place would probably be to go on https://e-hentai.org/.. They have forums where you can announce yourself, there are translation requests, and there's a bounty system where people offer fake money for translations. You'll never get real money out of a bounty, but again: no editing. The bounty poster will almost certainly take care of that.

There are people talking offering paid commisions on the forums too. But I would highly recommend getting some free work out there so people can see what you're offering. You might be able to find an editor to take care of that stuff for you on the forums too.

There's also a few companies that deal with porn, but I have no idea if they're hiring, or what you need to do to get hired there.

But no matter what, I wouldn't expect to start raking in the dough. Translating isn't very lucrative work unless you live in a country with a very low cost of living. And I'm pretty sure Tokyo is very much the opposite.

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>>18656299
Saturdays, Sundays and all public holidays (like today) are always off

>> No.18656373

>>18654417
>job as an actual translator
You'd probably end up translating porn anyways.

>> No.18656383

>>18656373
That's likely to be true, translations will be taken over by computers soon anyways.

>> No.18656392

>>18656383
>translations will be taken over by computers soon

Is there anything that won't be?

>> No.18656395

>>18656383
Implying a computer would ever be able to compute sentences such as I will take your virginity mother and Im cumming inside of myself

>> No.18656410

Why do workers let themselves get fucked in the ass? When will they rise up and overthrow the bourgeois?

>> No.18656414

>>18656252
Yeah. I don't care how tedious the worktime as long as I can spill my autism as scenario writer

>> No.18656417

>>18656392
Sooner than translations? Not many.

>> No.18656423

>>18656417
You're kidding, right? Automated translation is a lot further off than automated data entry.

>> No.18656428

>>18654715
What's so terrible about it? Are they afraid of getting shouted at or being fired or what?

>> No.18656459

>>18656423
>automated data entry

The easiest think to automate, not even a job. What's your next example? Telephone operator?

>> No.18657162

Having a job sounds like Hell.

>> No.18657584

Translating is easy. But cleaning and editing the raw page is the real job. And it's fucking pain in the ass. Unless you want to join a translator group, you want to work out your photoshop skill.

>> No.18658125

>>18657584
You'd think by now there'd be some kind of add-on for photoshop or something to automate this shit. Surely it can't be that hard to use image recognition to find ovals with text inside, white them out, and auto-add the text box.

>> No.18658231

>>18658125
Pretty sure they don't. And it's not just editing inside the bubble. Sometime you need to redraw the bubble itself since the translation may not fit. You can ignore the sfx tho.

>> No.18658240

>>18654663
>>18656199
>>18656267
>>18656299
I've worked from 4 pm to 4 am 7 days a week for a month straight now.
'merica.

>> No.18658349

>>18654357
I hate being that guy but this kind of thing is just like playing the lottery. That guy probably does all kinds of other shit too like typesetting and even then he's probably one out of the many people doing this shit who actually makes money from it.

>> No.18658422

>>18658240
I used to do that shit too, I used to work as a waiter, it was nuts. So happy I managed to get out of that nightmare before I got too old. I know one guy who is like 45 y.o. and it is too late for him to change profession.

>> No.18658445

>>18656383
Nice meme.

>> No.18658495

make some free shit to get your name out there
be self-serving and even include a page where you shill yourself at the front or back of the doujin
start a discord where people can request translations. even make it backer-only or something if you're going the patreon route
if you're doing porn it helps if you can find a fetish or niche that's particularly hurting for translators

>> No.18658522

>>18657162
It is hell

>> No.18658721

>>18654357
Prove it nip

>> No.18658725

>>18654423
Translate something idiot

>> No.18659611

I'll sell my soul and do porn translations where do I start?

>> No.18662688

>>18659611
Go to /vg/'s erogame threads. Translate some RPG maker games.

>> No.18662786

>>18662688
Anyone who translates games is straight up retarded, and doing 20 times the work for a tenth of the pay.

The only people you'll ever find doing RPG maker work are people running the game through Google Translate for their own use.

Doujinshi is the way to go for money. You can make decent money for not a lot of actual work.

>> No.18662883

Anons said doujinshi translations and I agree. You can also build yourself a name with light novels, but you have to be dedicated for it.

>> No.18662974

>>18654977
Post the handle you'll be working under so I can look up your shit later.

>> No.18664007

>>18654427
What do you hate about your co-workers?

>> No.18664064

>TokyoTosho
Haha old man

>> No.18664348

>So what have you been doing for the past few years?
>Oh just translating Japanese porn comics, illegally redistributing them and living off donations
>You're hired!

>> No.18664364

Came to actually hear what is so oppressive about the work culture in Japan because I'm actually interested in it, came away disappointed.

>> No.18664703

If you think your work is boring you should try translating something for a prolonged period of time, because that is the most boring thing I can imagine I have done.

>> No.18665307

I guess you don't know what job related stress is until you've made a jump from a bridge because of it.

>> No.18673367

>>18654357
hey OP give me the sauce on your pic before you disappear

>> No.18673759

>>18664364
According to this thread, it's boring or soul crushing or wonderful. Turns out it really depends on the company.

The Japanese workplace is going through a transformation phase atm. I don't think you will get a solid uniform answer anywhere. But the general trend is that things are on the up.

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18674880

>>18654416
>I understand this and am prepared to learn how to properly edit text translations and make it look nice.
Are you familiar with the various parts of scanlations? You're going to burn yourself out if you try to do every role by yourself, not to mention how being translator/redraw/typesetter/etc all at once adds multiple chokepoints that are way easier to solve with just having someone else do the other things.
I don't think hentai does the kind of fucking insanity in pic related, but if you do end up getting big, learning the other roles would become irrelevant anyway.

>> No.18675010

>>18674880
Not him but could you go into a little more detail about the redrawing/typesetting and what to use to get text like in your picture? Some kind of starting point for me to look up would be enough. I like editing images and want to learn about this stuff

>> No.18675225

>>18674880
>>18675010
https://fallensyndicate.wordpress.com/typesetting-tutorial/ (also where that image is from)
Assuming you get raws that aren't scanned by a butt photocopier, redrawing is mostly fixing art covered by non-bubbled text and two-page spreads.
For typesetting, there's a lot of ways to curve or warp text (that image being text on a spiral-shaped path), and also various tricks to fit long words and otherwise make it resemble the original, despite being in a language that follows different conventions.
I can't think of a single one-man scan team that has consistent long-lasting output.

>> No.18675332

>>18674880
>You're going to burn yourself out if you try to do every role by yourself, not to mention how being translator/redraw/typesetter/etc
You're vastly overestimating the kind of work required to white out a few bubbles or overlay some text with a shadow.

Sure, if you wanted to put out professional quality shit with every sliver of Japanese removed and translated, it'd be a lot of work. But 99.99% of people don't give a fuck if you ignore dumb shit like that. You can pump out a 22p doujin in an hour, no problem, all you have to do is work smart, not hard.

>> No.18675426

>>18675332
I admit I'm overselling the importance, but I find it hard to believe anyone making $5000 a month a month off of this isn't putting in an effort worth that amount.
Although then again, some Patreon scams pull in $10k a month with literally no effort being put in, so what do I know.

>> No.18675449

>>18675426
>but I find it hard to believe anyone making $5000 a month a month off of this isn't putting in an effort worth that amount.
If you're pulling in that kind of money, it'd be pretty easy to just delegate everything to randoms, increase productivity by 5000%, and just sit back and reap the profits while paying your staff at commission rates.

>> No.18675824

>>18675225
Thank you

>> No.18677280

Translate lolige and become a true hero!

>> No.18677454

>>18654357
I would love to help somebody clean raws or typeset if they need it. It's not like I'm doing anything better to be honest.

And I think most people download from https://nyaa.si/

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