07th Expansion

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Talk masterpieces written by DragonKnight07, express your concerns over slow release of Higurashi chapters, patiently wait for WTC5 and Umineko Chapter 9, get cucked by Zelda.

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FUCKING MANGAGAMER, TSUMIBOROSHI-HEN WHEN!?

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>>18451524
>DragonKnight07
>story takes place in a timeloop
>no one survives
HMMM

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The Ten Commandments of 07th Expansion threads

1. Thou shalt not talk about the forbidden theory.
2. Thou shalt avoid the shitposters.
3. Thou shalt respect hard working goats.
4. Thou shalt not lewd the characters.
5. Thou shalt respect the Umineko manga.
6. Thou shalt read Higurashi, Higanbana and Rose Guns Days.
7. Thou shalt not be a intellectual rapist.
8. Thou shalt buy official game releases.
9. Thou shalt avoid any anime adaptation.
10. Thou shalt always have a big heart.

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>>18451807
thanks.

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>>18451546
When Mangagamer Cry

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Rika is best Higurashi.

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>>18452661
why didn't she tell Hanyuu to follow Tomitake?

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>>18452696
After Umineko I prefer to think that Hanyuu was just a Rika's delusion, and she appeared in the last episode due to "love". I know, this theory does not withstand any analysis

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>>18452807
>love is nothing more than delusional.
Hi Erika

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>>18452696

Plot hole. Plain and simple.

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>>18452807
Hanyuu appearing physically it's just...

Did Ryukishi ever explained that in the same way he did every single magical element in Umineko?

That's one thing I could never take seriously.

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Yes yes, well done R07, well done

HOWEVER

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>>18453913
11. Thou shalt not be cucked by Zelda.

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>>18453694
Love is overrated

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beato

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>>18451807
>4
I refuse!

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HOLY SHIT, THEY ACTUALLY FIXED THAT MAJOR MISTRANSLATION WE DISCUSSED ABOUT SOME WEEKS AGO.

G FUCKING G

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>>18454596
Well, that was a thing I wasn't expecting.

I guess these are the advantages of having Ryukishi working in the patch with you. This particular typo was in there for years now, and it's a red truth typo.

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>tfw you will never have Ryuukishi helping you translate his stuff

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>>18454660
Something tells me he'd make a decent translation aid

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So after reading Umineko last year and digesting it completely like the dumb goat I am, I'm finally gonna read Higurashi. What version is the preferred one? I've found several downloads for the steam version and a "patched" steam version, though I'm unsure of the difference. Does it have shitty sprites like the steam Umineko ones?

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>>18454596
>WE DISCUSSED ABOUT SOME WEEKS AGO
It was mainly fixed by Ryukishi
What could this possibly mean, I wonder

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>>18455018
It was a mistranslation from JP to EN, so probably nothing much. Still surprising either Ryu or MG still pays attention to us here on 4chan.

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>>18454879
steam version, original graphics + voices.
if you finish maekashi-hen before tsumihorobshi-hen then switch to the old translation.

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Would you describe Umineko as life changing experience?

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>>18454484
anon

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>>18455863
In the same way getting hit by a truck is a life changing experience

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>>18455934
ROSA

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>>18455863
it gave me an obsession that has lasted several years that only gets worse with time so yes

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>>18454879
>Does it have shitty sprites like the steam Umineko ones?
They are much better, but who cares? You can ignore the shitty sprites in both games and use the original ones.

Higurashi is censored in the steam version, though. A sprite was completely removed from the game.

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>>18455362
>Higurashi
>voices
God, no. They are good, but they completely ruin the creepy atmosphere. It's better to play it without voices the first time.

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Maria wa cute, a literal cute, incredibly cute, so cute. The fact that the best girl in Umineko is a kid is just mindblowing! Lewd! Cute!

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>>18456583
Fuck off Ryukishi

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>>18456591
Lewd anon is actually a bait to attrac Ryukishi so he can fix the translation.

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>>18456583
Fuck off maggot

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What is your plan regarding avoiding WTC5 spoilers fellow anons who don't understand japanese?
filters?
leaving these threads?
leaving 4chan?
leaving the internet?

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>>18457082
I'll just kill myself and have Beato to revive me once english translation is out

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>>18457107
Same

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We're playing some Umineko Mafia and need two more to start the game, if you wanna join us. Don't worry bros, it's not that hard

https://epicmafia.com/game/6470425

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>>18457082
>tfw you know Japanese and anti-loli anon doesn't
Feels great.

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>>18457860
wow that's actually awesome im jealou,don't spoil us kudasai.

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>>18457860
Hmm? I don't care really. I'm the type person that doesn't mind being spoiled, and most importantly, I'm patient. People like you would do the hard part for me, and meanwhile I will focus on other things I like. Who knows if this new project ends up being good or not, honestly I'm not that excited. I'm more interested in the new episode of umi tbqh. Also, I don't hate "loli" characters, I personally think they are cute and Rika is my daughteru. I just hate those excessively sexual drawings of children and the people who likes them, they are the worse, I hope they die.

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I don't mind getting spoiled at all
This is my sin as EOP and English isn't even my first language

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>>18458190
How does it feel knowing Rika's figure is the only one you can have pose in her panties?

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>>18458514
I don't want to fight and make a mess like the last thread. Shoo away, I will ignore you now.

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Shinjaebaaaaaa

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>>18458735
Eva a best.

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>>18458190
I hope people like you die too. Hopefully, one day you'll realize what a disgusting human being you are.

Have a nice day, anon.

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>>18458978
Ty you too

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Anyone liked RGD enough to want to write their thoughts about it?

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>>18455934

BEATO

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>>18459105
I'm reading Season 2 rn, it's awesome.

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>>18459105
If you like Ryukishi action scenes then you will love it
It has good music too, even unused umineko tracks

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Dlanor words in our confession:
>But if you can, try to reach her feelings, buried in the deepest part of the story. She said that she wrote two stories and revealed one. However, that was also wrong. She wrote three stories and revealed one. By reading this incomplete manuscript, you will know two of those stories. I would like you to reach the third and final one with your own power. As another woman, I strongly wish that of those reading this work.
what is that third story?

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>>18459686
First one is fantasy.
Second one is mystery.
Third one is the the truth.

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>>18459766
And fourth?

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>>18459816
pretty sure there is only three.

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>>18459833
That was your opportunity to say something original and funny, but you blew it.

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>>18459816

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>>18459816
The truth Ryukishi doesn't want you to know, Rosatrice

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>>18460059

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>>18459126

ANON

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>>18459816
You can know a lot about Beatrice and Battler from the way they write other characters in their stories. That's probably the fourth story.

The first two episodes were written by Yasu. And Kinzo is portrayed as a maniac while Natsuhi is a pure woman.

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>>18460891
Also, those are the only episodes where Battler acts like a 12 year old pervert sometimes. Makes you think. They are also the only episodes where Beatrice is portrayed as an irredeemable villain that kills people because she's evil. The later episodes give her a backstory and show her in a more sympathetic light.

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Did anyone else take the Endless Witch's Coronation Test? I was stumped on this question and I was hoping you other Witch Apprentices could help me out.

>Q3. Fill in the blanks using the following as an example:
>Ronove is to Genji as Publius Virgilia Maro is to Kumasawa.
>
>Goldsmith is to ______ as EVA-Beatrice is to ______.
>Gaap is to ______ as Featherine Augustus Aurora is to ______.
>Bernkastel is to ______ as Lambdadelta is to ______.
>Zepar is to ______ as Furfur is to ______.

I've got a good idea on what the first one is:
>Goldsmith is to Kinzo as EVA-Beatrice is to Ushiromiya Eva.
My reasoning for Kinzo = Goldsmith is due to Kinzo's name (金蔵) which translates to "gold" and "warehouse"; if you extrapolate from that you can get Goldsmith. EVA-Beatrice took a while (the "-Beatrice" part did put a spanner in the works) but I did get it in the end. The other questions stump me though.

Please help! I want graduate and become an Endless Witch!

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>>18461446
What is this test? Anyways
>Gaap is to Beatrice as Featherine Augustus Aurora is to Bernkastel
Seems like that as both Gaap and Featherine seem to be the first magical figures they encountered as well as someone who awakened their power.

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>>18461446
What is this test? Anyways
>Gaap is to Beatrice as Featherine Augustus Aurora is to Bernkastel
It seems to me that both Gaap and Featherine are the first magical figures they encountered as well as someone who awakened their power.

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>>18461938
>What is this test?
Every 1000 years the Coronation Test occurs in order for the current Endless Witch to proclaim a new Endless Witch. This ritual has been ongoing for over a quadrillion years. The method of testing is not consistent as it is dependent on how the current Endless Witch wishes to test the Witch Apprentices. For example, a previous Endless Witch (the Golden Witch Beatrice) held her test in the form of a riddle (The Witch's Epitaph). Once the test is sufficiently answered, the Witch Apprentice is then Coronated and gains the title of Endless Witch. This time, the ritual is in the form of a standard test. Well, "standard" is a bit of an understatement considering how ridiculously difficult it is.

>Gaap is to Beatrice as Featherine Augustus Aurora is to Bernkastel
Interesting. I wouldn't have made that connection nor would I have thought to answer as such. I wonder what your thoughts are for the others?

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>>18461446
Maybe zepar and furfur are to kanon/shannon because of the gender thing (it's shit i know, i suck at riddles)

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>>18462232
Kanon and Shannon seemed like the obvious answers to me as well but I couldn't figure out which name corresponds to which. Should it be Zepar = Kanon and Furfur = Shannon? Or should it be the other way around with Zepar = Shannon and Furfur = Kanon? This is why the question really had me puzzled. It's a 50/50 guess but it isn't necessarily a 50% chance to get it right. That is to say, the answer might not be Shannon and Kanon in either field.

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>>18462350
Yes that's the main problem.
About the other one i was thinking that Lambda to Beato but i don't know who can be the bern one, maybe Erika because: thanks to Lambda Beato is real witch and thanks to Bern Erika became a witch too.

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>>18462365
I did some more research and I might have the answer. While both the Zepar and Furfur control love and tests others through trials, the two have their own differences.

Zepar bestows an ultimate defensive barrier of immortality upon the contractor. This gives the contractor enough courage to unflinchingly face any wounds love might cause. A "hunter" of love who likes and preys upon tame boys.

Furfur bestows endless, inexhaustible offensive power upon the contractor. This gives the contractor enough courage to fearlessly overcome any barriers to their love. A "trainer" of love who teaches tame boys the taste of flesh.

Shannon is shown to use a barrier with her magic while Kanon is shown to use a sword. Perhaps the "courage to unflinchingly face any wounds" imply something that is a more reactive (hence Shannon's barrier) whilst the "courage to fearlessly overcome any barriers" imply something that is more proactive (hence Kanon's sword). If this line of thought is correct then I believe the correct answer is
>Zepar is to Shannon as Furfur is to Kanon.

A bit off-topic but I wonder if the "hunter"/"trainer" of love mean anything? I wonder if there is any relation to George and Jessica.

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>>18462365
>Bernkastel is to Erika as Lambdadelta is to Beato.
I hadn't thought of that and I really like that answer. Using the "Witch Guardian" angle was pretty clever. However, there is also the problem of having multiple with apprentices. Bernkastel was the guardian for both Ange and Erika. Lambdadelta was the guardian for both Beato and Battler. Of course, Ange, Erika, Beato and Battler are all witches/sorcerers.

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>>18462432
Awesome, now makes sense!

>>18462522
fuck, you are right, they have multiples apprentices as well.

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bern is to cat as lambda is to cake

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>>18462522
Bern to Ange, Lambda to Battler. Just as how Bern and Lambda love each other, Ange and Battler love each other. The guardian angle remains the same.

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>>18462643
Now we're beginning to think with multiple points of relations. Fantastic. Bern and Lambda's love was more intimate compared to Ange and Battler's sibling love. Perhaps if Ange and Battler were incestuous it would make for a better argument.

Also consider this relation:
>Bernkastel is to Erika as Lambdadelta is to Battler.

The guardian angle is also used. In addition, Bernkastel and Lambdadelta challenge each other with games and riddles. Erika and Battler also do the same.

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>>18462737
Nice,but that could be Lambda to Beatrice , because Battler and Beato challenge each other too.

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>>18462749
wait Erika and and battler are both detectives!

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Is it just me or does it look like Maria is flashing her butt in this page of the manga?

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I don't need Ep 9, all I need is Asanagi drawing Erika getting choked until she makes this face and says in red that she only exists to please dicks
It's not even that out of character

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>>18463255
I can't unsee that now.

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>>18463259
Reminder that ahegao Erika is canon.

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>>18462350
Zepar is the 16th earl of Hell and Furfur is the 34th. Yoshiya means 16 (4+4+8) and Sayo can be read as 34

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>>18464013
It's like they don't want us to know the definitive proof if their genders

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>>18464013
zepAr (mAle)
Fufur (Female)

You aren't woke.

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Why is Maria such a pathetic sperglord? Even roree Ange is more mature than her.

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>>18463255
>implying cute girls have butts

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>>18463279
Her eyes are still focused on reality. If you want a full ahegao sprite, read the third chapter of Higanbana.

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>>18464740
No friends + absentee mom makes you autistic and weird

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>>18457261
doing it again
https://epicmafia.com/game/6472160

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Finished Higurashi, took me a decent amount of time longer than I initially expected.

I'm probably going to wait a bit till I start a new VN, but would any of you here recommend any of 07th other releases?
If so, which one(s) and why?

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>>18465956
Next: https://epicmafia.com/game/6472200

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>>18466033
Rose gun days, it's a lot different from his previous works but believe me, its epic.

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>>18454549

Beatrice doesnt have any boobs tho

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>>18467053
Beato is blonde and bouncy

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>>18456478

desu i dont even know why that sprite was even there. K1's pedophilic tendencies already make Higurashi uncomfortable to read.

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>>18459158
>>18459198

Right, I wanted to discuss the best duo R07 has written so far and it ain't Battler and Beato.

The only people who know them are dead and burried.

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I finally got my custom Higurashi Onikakushi-hen novel printed. Here's some pics 4 u. I got it in full color so i could add the PS2 CGs in there. Also some cute stuff with the tips.

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>>18462350

Zepar is to Furfur as Furfur is to Zepar

idiot.

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>>18467182

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>>18467182
>>18467236
Wow! that's pretty cool!

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>>18467053
Beato only exists in the meta world now so she can have whatever she wants

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>>18467305
thats a weird way to say beato died flat and thats all she ever was.

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>>18467182
>>18467236
That's fucking awesome.

May I ask for the cover? Kinda wanna see the full book in all its glory.

Also, how much did it cost you?

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>>18467182
>>18467236
One of these for Umineko would be a fucking dream

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>>18467450

It doesnt have a proper cover.

>>18467487
im working on watanagashi-hen right now, when i get done with higurashi, umineko is definitely on my list

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>>18467450

$60.
You can actually buy yourself a copy from the site i used to get it printed.

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>>18467689
>>18467716

Which is the site? I'm kinda interested now (hopefully they also do hardcovers, I could design a nice one myself, if anything).

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>>18467792

i can send you the pdf if you want to get it printed yourself

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>>18467792

search for higurashi at thebookpatch bookstore.

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>>18467802
I would appreciate it, thanks anon

>>18467821
will check it out

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Just how cute is Satoko's cunny?

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>>18471227
Reminder: Kira is canon.

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So what exactly was the logic behind giving the stakes the two best sounding character songs?

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>>18467343
Rude
True
But rude

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>>18471644
What was the logic behind making all the characters sympathetic in some ways in spite of their flaws, and always having some form of love in them, fitting with the themes of Umineko, and then having Kyrie go "hehahohu I'm gonna kill everyone and I don't even care about my daughter I'm a sociopath who only cares about fucking rudolf except he died so I don't even care about him hahehohu kihihi!" ?

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>>18471978
>and I don't even care about my daughter
Thinking she lie to trick Eva into taking care of Ange fits her more than just being a retarded edgelord
She probably knew her rifle was only loaded with blanks after failing to kill Jessica and resorting to beating her to death and it is why she bothered to talk with Eva, because she knew she couldn't win so might as well try to manipulate her to protect her daughter

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>>18471978
Pretty much confirmed the only reason he told all that awful stuff about her daughter to Eva was so she took pity on her.

I fully believe in this and everything makes so much sense.

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>>18472011
Yes, i believe that too

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>>18472011
>only loaded with blanks
>killed Rosa

HUH?

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My titles are Endless, Golden, and Rythm Witch.

http://nodtotherhythm.com/?gu56ERGF

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>>18472014
>>18472011
Where was this basically confirmed? I can believe it since she becomes almost too much of a psychopath and it makes sense, fitting her character since she is more of a logical and cold blooded killer than complete psycopath, but I never saw anything hinting at this

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>>18472265
Well unless you count her acting out of character like that as a hint, which I guess it is

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>>18467343
Golden Land canonically gave her boobs.

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>>18472265
>>18472265
People mostly base this on her last moments, where after pic related is said by Eva, she apparently grins and says a short word, but is never heard by anyone.

People theorize it was "Checkmate", her catchphrase.

Honestly, it's just fucking badass and it makes a lot of sense so I just choose to believe it.

Also, makes sense with the entire "cat box" premise. We will never know what she really thought.

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>>18472315
True, I always rationalized it as, even though it's the truth, it was Eva's own point of view so of course she would see Kyrie as awful with nothing redeeming in her. But I think this makes a bit more sense.
>>18472308
Canonically admiring her own boobs

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>>18472361
>Canonically admiring her own boobs
Wouldn't you?

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>>18472508
I love Beato, i really love her.

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>>18472808
Same.

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>>18457082
WAAAAAT WTC5, NIGGAAAAAAAAAA.

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>>18472315
>People theorize it was "Checkmate", her catchphrase.

I'm bleeding, making me the victor.

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>>18451524
>get cucked by Zelda.
Wat? What did I miss?

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>>18471227
Eww. I was OK without seeing Ryuuguu Rena's shithole, thanks. What were they thinking? Now I cannot reread Higurashi without thinking "I've seen this girl's smelly ass". How am I supposed to take her character seriously anymore?

Fuck DEEN. What a bunch of disgusting psychos.

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>>18473291
Stop samefagging.

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>>18473291
Rena's ass is not smelly!

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Mion is ready to kick ur ass.

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>>18473368
Mion is for hugs

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Trianthology translation when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwVEQlqf_sE
Also why are all the recent 07thexpansion OPs starting with Rose Guns Days so good?

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>>18473552
The OPs have always been good.

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https://epicmafia.com/game/6473997

Come in, we are playing Umineko deck again.

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>>18473994
I agree, but the jump in quality from Higanbana to RGD is very big

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>>18474352
Maybe in terms of animation, but the song quality stayed pretty constant.

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Is this a real figure? From what I can see, it looks just like those Ryukishi-style ones, but I haven't seen it anywhere. A custom one maybe?

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>>18473291
Yeah, they destroyed Rena's dignity for cheap fanservice. And it's not even good fanservice. I mean, who wants to see that crazy slut's ass crack? That's disgusting.

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Has the Umineggo anime ever been released on BluRay? Or was it such a trainwreck that they didn't even bother? I mean, I doubt DEEN would want to lose money like that. Nobody's gonna buy that shit.

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>>18474976
>Umineko BluRay
Isn't that where all these fanservice pieces came from?

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So Erika is a part of Ange right?

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>>18475238
Not Ange specifically. Erika says it herself in the Trick ending. As the Witch of Truth, she exists wherever there are people who expose the truth. It's just like how Bern is the witch who bestows miracles, or how Lambda is the witch who rewards hard work. Erika's connection with Ange is due to the latter's desire to seek the truth.

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>>18474976
Yeah. It was even released on Blu-Ray in the US

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>>18475238
They are different people but they share the same body. Even the fat in their asses is the same.

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Ange is cute! Hecka cute! Fuckass cute! Cute as hell! Incredibly cute! So cute!

The teenage angst of Ushiromiya Ange! ANGEのマン毛! Lewd!

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>>18475509
>Ange and Erika share the same body
Bull crap. Erika and Ange have totally different body types.

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Rosatrice is the truth. I believe that Ryukishi is lying to us on purpose.

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>>18475999
Ange's ass is bigger!

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Can someone explain me why Ange wasn't in the bottle messages? That's the only detail about Umineko that really bothers me.

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>>18477208
Ange's everything is bigger.

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>>18477312
And that's good or bad?

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>>18477345
<Good>

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>>18477363
<Veeeeeeeeeeryyyy gooooood>

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>>18477427
Needs a blush.

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>>18477465
How's this?

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>>18477528
<VEEEERY GOOD, ONE MORE>

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>>18477558
<YES, YOUR MAJESTY>

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Ange may be well endowed, but Erika literally lewds herself

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>>18477778
Lewd body vs lewd mind.

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I actually read umineko for fantasy and action scenes. Love is tought and all that stuff but I don't really cared about it

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>>18477296
Yasu also somehow knew there would be a strom. I don't think there's an explanation for that either

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>>18477936
You can still explain this, by assuming Yasu was going to block all ways of exit from the island anyway.

No explanation for Ange tho.

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>>18477936
She is family head and could just adjust the date of the family conference according to weather forecast. I don't think the time of family conference is always set in stone, only that it happens in October.

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>>18477991
>She

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Post favorite Umineko wallpapers.

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>>18478249

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>>18478249

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>>18474282
Umineko Gambler game
https://epicmafia.com/game/6475188

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I'm using one of the variations of that >>18477778 since it was uploaded some years ago

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>>18478249
I'm using one of the variations of that >>18477778 Erika sinve it was uploaded some days ago

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>>18477612
>>18477528

Can you do any Ange x Amakusa stuff? Asking for a friend.

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>>18478874
Terrible taste

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>>18478874
this is an ange x battler board kid

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>>18478874
There are at least three lewd 10/10 Ange x Amakusa fanfics written by the same author, but I don't want to help you. Search for them yourself if you're interested. Sorry.

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>>18478874
No, it's a terrible ship.

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Why does no one manufacture and sell Sakutaro plush?

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Bwaattleeer-shwaaaaaan!!!

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>>18477528
Nice.

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I fell in love with Beatrice *cackle* from the PS3 version.

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Gertrudo > Cornholio

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>>18479430

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>>18471227
I wonder if that night Rika and Satoko talked about Rena's hairy pussy. It must be the first bush they've ever seen!

[Anonymous No.]

>>18479413
I follow someone on twitter who have this Sakutaro , but he is from japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18451524
I'm having trouble doing 41236C/4123641236C (Meta and SL2 moves respectively) inputs in Golden Fantasia, no other fighting game gives me this many issues. I checked the input display in practice mode and apparently this game is strict as hell, it wants nothing but absolute perfection in order and speed, whereas say, Street Fighter 4 lets you do whatever so long as the super's inputs are somewhat there in the mishmash of buttons you just pressed.

So for example while Golden Fantasia won't do a SL2 unless you input 41236412364C perfectly, SF4 will let you do a super if you do something messy like 4262436C. I remember the first version of the game, way before Cross was even a thing, had a fanmade patch fixing these issues making the moves a lot easier to do like every other fighting game.

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>>18479955
Are you playing it on keyboard? Half-circle moves are very hard to do with it due to very finnicky input detection. Turn on input display in training and check if it swallows some of your directions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18480047
>Are you playing it on keyboard?
Nope, controller.
>Turn on input display in training
I did, I mentioned it in the post, it's how I came to the conclusion about how strict this game is when it comes to inputs compared to other fighting games.

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>>18479955
Play on princess mode, dude. Fighting game inputs are bullshit unless you plan to become a world expert player. Especially on a fucking keyboard.

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>>18480358
Princess mode is awful, it limits the moves you can actually do and it doesn't feel fun at all, I'd rather play it traditionally.
>Fighting game inputs are bullshit
But I said I have no issues doing inputs on other fighting games and pointed out why, because this game is very strict about it.

[Anonymous No.]

Rose Guns Days should have a sequel with Toratsugu and Julie and explain what happened to Keith, Meryl, Rapunzel, Butler and Lee, reveal Wayne's wife identity and descendants of other characters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18478874
How's this?

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>>18481083

umm thats not amakusa

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>>18481379
Oh right, my mistake.

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>>18481379
Fine fine. I'm not really a fan of the ship, but here. Something like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18481487

Make amakusa shirtless and give him a douchy tribal tattoo around his bicep.

He's definitely the type of guy that has has something like that.

[Anonymous No.]

What was the song that played when Kyrie/Rudolph started fucking shit up in the Ep7 Tea Party? Really reminded me of something out of Lisa

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>>18481791
"Ridicule"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi3eAjB_LcA

[Anonymous No.]

This Amakusa/Ange thing made me curious
Could this be Amakusa?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18481896
It's definitely Amakusa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18480058
>controller
Xbox controller?

[Anonymous No.]

Maria は cute, insanely cute, gosh-darned cute, so cute!

The literal 女の子ness of Ushiromiya Maria.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that Bern is best witch and only closet homos like Beatranny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18484594
But Bernkastel is a flaming homo herself

[Anonymous No.]

>>18484594
>Bern
What a strange way to say Lambda

[Anonymous No.]

>>18484612
Good taste anon!

[Anonymous No.]

>>18484612
>>18485065
>only tenth place in popularity poll
How did we let her down so hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>18485998
Japan's shit tastes like usual when it comes to polls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18485998
She got 3rd in the one before that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18486134
What were the top 2, because I can't believe the top 3 wouldn't be Battler, Beato and Erika.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18477778
She has an ass.

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>>18486154
Top 5 were
Battler
Beato
Lambda
Erika
Ange

https://web.archive.org/web/20111014212418/http://when-they-cry.net/Cgi/vote/umi8/vote_end.html

[Anonymous No.]

Shit, mixed up 1 and 2. Beato was 1st, Battler 2nd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18486551
>>18486544

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>>18486544
Who are 6 and 7? Images are broken so I want to go out on a limb and say Dlanor and Virgilia?

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>>18486575
Judging from the comments, I think 6th was Natsuhi, and 7th was Bern.

[Anonymous No.]

1000 years on beta testing

[Anonymous No.]

Hey guys, quick question about Higurashi.

Are Watanagashi-hen and Maekashi-hen the same timeline? Or are they seperate timelines that are really similar, if so, what are differences between them?

In Onikakushi, does Rika have foreknowledge of the tragedy or is it her first time experiencing that particular scenario?

[Anonymous No.]

Post some underrated tracks, the ones that don't get brought up every time we discuss soundtracks.

https://youtu.be/eBo7QL__wZQ

Heard this one for the first time in a while and it sent chills down my spine. It was only used once right?

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>>18486844
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idJLgN2Pu0I&index=8&list=PL4AC2245EFEE1FABB

[Anonymous No.]

>>18486544
>Kinzo 42nd
Holy shit, this is amazing

[Anonymous No.]

>>18486575

>>18486596 is right. 6 was Natsuhi, 7 was Bern. The image addresses are labelled by character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18486857
Proud Dust is genuinely in my top 10 tracks for sure, I fucking love it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSJVvftCR64

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>>18486844
Where does it play?

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>>18487007
Episode 4, when Ange summons the seven stakes.

https://youtu.be/0N86BGGJMjs?t=4416

[Anonymous No.]

>>18486803
im pretty sure that are differents worlds , but i can't remember the reasons, i read higurashi long time ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18487038
Right, thank you. I knew it was in the second half of EP4 but I just couldn't remember specifics.

[Anonymous No.]

Like, this excerpt implies that Rika doesn't know that Shion is pretending to be Mion when they have their confrontation in the garden outside the schoolhouse.

Unless Rika knows that Shion and Mion switched places when the successor was being branded. and she's referring to that when she calls Mion the big sister cat, which i find unlikely.

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>>18487081

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>>18486803
Different worlds, but very similar. The only difference iirc is Rika trying to drug Mion (Shion) in Meakashi when she was just tortured to death in Watanagashi.

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>>18486844
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSAcfUz17EQ
After playing tons of Ougon this is probably my favorite song in the series

[Anonymous No.]

>>18486857
>>18486986
I love both tracks, Proud Dust could work in a sort of trailer of Umineko, don't you think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxEZna3ROgQ

"Rosa, Rosa, why are you such an idiot?" this scene and its previous are in the top of Umineko to me.

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>>18486844
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv7f2vPCSwI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxxAmlmVvQ4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkauAVC8Py0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV0OnZtHHz4

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>>18486803
In Meakashi-hen K1 tries to save "Mion" from the thugs. In Watanagashi-hen Shion saves him instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18487737
Why did that happen tho

[Anonymous No.]

Did Shion really love Satoshi or was it just juvenile obsession of lonely girl stripped of any meaningful interactions with peers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18486844
https://youtu.be/SPJXp3xPglY
Question arc was a fucking good ride

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>>18488097

lmao so she's like Higurashi's Jessica?

[Anonymous No.]

What is the difference between Yasu and Meta Beatrice?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18488561
tits and vagina

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>>18486844
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMVh99cpPuk

[Anonymous No.]

Hey guys it's the anon making the Watanagashi-hen novel. R07's abuse of ellipses is triggering my autism, should I remove them, or let them be?

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>>18488709
I don't like when he goes overboard with it. It might be more of a stylized choice for visual novels and to allow dramatic pauses and build-up, but I don't think it works at all for actual novels unless it's done very sparingly.

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>>18488758

This excerpt of half a page has 32 instances of ellipses

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>>18488776
"...Ah."

Said... Mion... As she... raised... the... axe.

"That's not an axe...", said K1. "It's a... machete."

"Technically.... speaking.", Rena began. "It's a... billhook."

And... then...

The unthinkable happened.

...Without so much as a cough, Rika walked into the room with a Japanese to English dictionary.

...She cleared her throat.

"....Technically speaking, the weapon Rena uses is called a "鉈女", which can be translated as a hatchet."

....

There was a long pause.

"...No one asked you your opinion, you fucking weeb."

....

....

....

Hatchet Defining Arc - Fin~

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>>18489023
>鉈女
?

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>>18489023

>not Axe Defining Arc

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>>18489056
It’s clearly Machete Defining Arc you fucking rube

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>>18487653
>Apathy
Episode 4 really kills me whenever I think about it and re-read it and songs like this and Wingless just hurt listening to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18489143
Episode 4 also kils me because it's the worst and most boring episode after EP7

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>>18489209
Episode 7 is the best tho

[Anonymous No.]

If someone made a live action umineko, would you cast the same person for shannon, kanon and beatrice or would that be too on the nose?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18489209
Pacing is EP4s only real problem and I don't understand how people can hate EP7.

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>>18489388
I would, but have them be listed as different actors.

Let's see if that bullshit could work out in real life.

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>>18489407

But then you'd have to cast a nobody people wouldnt recognize as a different character and endanger the role. And even then, people would google ur fake actors name and instantly know that they dont actually exist.

Hire the same marketing company that Cloverfield used, they might be able to conceal the big secret

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>>18489464
The biggest problem is with how long Umineko is. It's much harder to keep the secret with how long it is.

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>>18489474

Ideally, it would take 8 years, whether you're making a TV show or movie 1 season would equal one arc or one movie would be 1 arc. Unless you want to be a shitter and squeeze the entire first 4 arcs into one season.

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>>18489391
>how people can hate EP7

>he unironically liked to read the desilusions of a tranny faggot for almost the entire episode
Yeah, the shit was reeeally important, but man, it was so fucking boring

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>>18489474
Also anyone that really cares about the mystery will literally just google umineko explained and then everyones gonna be like ROSATRICE again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18489494
Kill yourself.

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>>18486803
If you still don't know whether they are different timelines or not, you must be halfway through Meakashi. Why are you asking for spoilers?

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>>18489873
They could've just forgotten, Higurashi came out a long time ago.

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>>18488709
This kind of ellipse ridiculous usage is actually pretty fine in japanese standards, as they don't quite have the same gramatical usage you guys have in the west.

We use them quite a bit for hesitation and suspense, while in western literature, writers tend to choose describying words instead.

If anything, you could reduce them or just substituting them accordingly.

They don't really fit english writing unless in visual novel format (the way they were programmed to be displayed, that is).

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>>18486844
If there are any tracks that I've never heard people giving enough credits in the magnificent OST of Seacats, these would be them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3KPybMNKSk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6xbvsPVv1E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt4GGsj39H8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYl1hLAPoRc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srAkT72YhCc

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>>18490789
I've been listening to Bizzare Divertimo for quite a while, it's absolutely my jam

[Anonymous No.]

Bern is a jerk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18490789
EP7's OST overall is very underappreciated since day 1 in the fandom. Truly deserves more love.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18491142
OST is partly the reason why Requiem is my favorite episode of Chiru
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sas87qoYcfE/

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>>18490789
A Single Moment and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEw0PPcNdHY are one of my favorites

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone have the name of the song that plays in the ep 3 ura tea party? It's while ange is on the rooftop but before talking to bernkastel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18492747
Wingless
https://youtu.be/Q6YgNtJNr6A

[Anonymous No.]

Hey lads, how long is the Himutsuboshi chapter?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18492827
Like half of the Onikakushi, 4-5 hours long

[Anonymous No.]

>>18492827
Half of it is Mahjong. Just pretend you know what the hell is going on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18490789
Fall is amazing, it's a shame nobody said it before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18493561
Fall is in my top 5 too, I wonder why people don't talk much about it.

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>>18486844
What do you think about these? Do you find them underrated? The last one is my favourite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBdrlg2zVH4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm6BKgnuW_s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wJwfgttZ60

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfIsbeR6nWw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sxfABkV3oU

[Anonymous No.]

>>18493620
For me Life, Doorway of Summer and Witch in Gold are some of the most recognizable Umineko tracks. Not something I would listen to separately, but these tracks are great at setting up a particular mood.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18493620
Doorway of summer makes me feel really nostalgic

[Anonymous No.]

I'm replaying Umineko with the PS3 port, and somehow it doesn't feel right with the VN style textbox.

[Anonymous No.]

Wow shit

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[Anonymous No.]

>>18494161

ye but some of the scenes are better with voice acting.
You really get a better sense of the scene when you can hear natsuhi's sobbing instead of just reading R07s "WaaaaaAAAAaAAhHHH!!!"
The PS3 port also slows down alot of the action sequences with overly long animations.
You take the good with the bad desu.
I've read Umineko like 4 times with every new iteration thats released. 1st was the original release, then it was the Umitweak patch, then it was the PS3 port, then i read the steam version. Each has their own ups and downs.

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>>18494161
You can easily revert the textbox in 1-4 and also in Chiru if you check some comments on the patch wiki

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>>18494386
A lot of the voice acting you can do without but there are just some scenes that become so much better with voice acting, like Beato and EVA-Beatrice near the end of EP3, Logic Error, Kinzo in general, Erika in general, etc.

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>>18494407

yeah, i often just clicked through the dialogue heavy scenes with only hearing like the first vowel, but stopped and heard the entire line when there's an interesting line like *cackle* or *sob*

[Anonymous No.]

Can autism defeat magic?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18494422
They are two sides of the same coin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18494422

Autism IS magic tho

[Anonymous No.]

Aauaurora is a persona created by Battler Blanco, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18494552
>Auaurora
You mean Feath-uhh-uhh-rine?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18494598

Was Hanyuu''s catchphrase in the Higurashi manga "uhh uhh"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18494598
Why is ange mad

[Anonymous No.]

>>18494605
I don't know about auau, but they turned nanodesu into "sir"

>>18494613
That's Bern, just with big boobs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18494694

nanodesu?!

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>>18494697
It's as dumb as it sounds.
>Rika. Today is the day you will be killed, sir.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18494605
In the Yen Press translation, yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>18494720

Then I guess keeping the connection took priority over keeping the joke

[Anonymous No.]

>>18494715
To be fair, nanodesu sounds kinda dumb in Japanese too

[Anonymous No.]

>>18494786

catchphrases in general are a trope that should die

[Anonymous No.]

>>18494799
You don't like catchphrases, desu?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18494799
Some catchphrases are cool

[Anonymous No.]

>>18494898
>It's no goddamn good

[Anonymous No.]

>>18494898
DAME DA

[Anonymous No.]

>>18494915

[Anonymous No.]

>>18494898
>not "repeat it"

nigga

[Anonymous No.]

>>18494982

Ok i changed my mind, only mean spirited catchphrases are allowed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18494982
SHINJAEBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.]

>>18494982
I want EVA to call me trash.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18495012

what does this literally translate to?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18495058
I don't know

[Anonymous No.]

>>18495052
Same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18495066
>>18495052
>he unironically likes EVA

[Anonymous No.]

>>18495227
I unironically love EVA.

[Anonymous No.]

There is no love. Just money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18495280
and THEY NEEDED A LOT OF MONEY

[Anonymous No.]

>>18494552
>>18494598
Featherine is Ikuko but she gets her memories from the device on her head, which is Battler
Basically she's Ikuko and Battler Blanco combined to represent Tohya as the joint author

[Anonymous No.]

Cornelia the New Priest translation when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18496727
We are unworthy of that masterpiece

Also too many revelations about the actual truth behind Umineko, it's better leave it untranslated, humanity isn't ready for it. Only the japanese fandom, since they are barely human any longer (pretty sure most of them became wizards already).

[Anonymous No.]

>>18497453
Ooes it reveal the ultimate truth of Corneliatrice?

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QEYmbm3RZU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh1VTKXCGVQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL5BYyHdFKc

Here are some other underrated soundtracks for me. I llike Haruka and Moon the most.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/xSKWf_20Lkg

"And then... I... knew."

[Anonymous No.]

>>18497531
Shhhh...

[Anonymous No.]

>>18497531

[Anonymous No.]

anime adaptation of tsubasa with extra gags by the Carnival Phantasm studio right after Episode 9 right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18500108
>>18500108
What even could the plot if episode 9 be about

How about Ange visits Gohda's illegimate child to reveal to them the truth of Rokkenjima as they too are part of it
Along the way we discover Gohda's child's passion for cooking and they become the new Magical Golden Chef

[Anonymous No.]

>>18500158
I still think the only thing that could come out is Land of The Golden Witch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18500108
We should have Carnival WTC once WTC5 is out.

Krauss needs to chill with the Space Elves, and talk about Moon Tourism

[Anonymous No.]

>>18500208
That or more bonus stuff like Tsubasa. Correct me if I'm wrong, but all they announced was new content, not necessarily a new Episode.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18500746
I believe it was an actual episode that was announced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18500746
He said the new Umineko release will be the Umineko version of Higurashi Hou, so the new content will probably be similar to Kamikashi-hen

[Anonymous No.]

>>18500797
>Kamikashi-hen
Which one was that? I can never keep track of Higurashi's side arcs.

[Anonymous No.]

How English people say Battler?
Something like Battle?

Japanese English is funny

t. Foreigner

[Anonymous No.]

>>18500875

Bat-lrr

[Anonymous No.]

>>18500847
The one with Hanyuu's alien friends

[Anonymous No.]

>>18500979

whats that arc about anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>18500988
It's the sequel to Outbreak. It's mostly comedic and silly though, unlike Outbreak which was pretty serious and dark

[Anonymous No.]

>>18500875
Batt-ler like how Butler is Butt-ler, not Battle-er

[Anonymous No.]

>>18501254
/ˈbætlər/

[Anonymous No.]

>>18500979
>pic
Holy shit Rena was right
side arcs were a mistake

[Anonymous No.]

Was the epitaph unsolvable if you didn't know Japanese/Chinese and radicals about kanji and hanzi?

[Anonymous No.]

This Beato look-alike from Trianthology is a real qt.

If only Ryukishi had drawn the hands instead of reverting to boxing gloves I'd say his art's getting pretty moe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18501795
You can't get more lazy than this

[Anonymous No.]

>>18501795
To be honest, I think his sprites in TRT look kind of bad. I'm not sure why, but they look really weird and not as charming as the Higu/Umi sprites

[Anonymous No.]

>>18501961
Yikes. Yeah, that looks pretty bad.

The female students look cute IMO though. I like the face and the shading on the hair.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18501795

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>>18501559

yes

[Anonymous No.]

Higurashi is rewritten by Stephen King and released for western audiences. Hinamizawa is now a sleepy town in Maine and Oyashiro-sama's curse is now about Jesus or something. Is it good? What other changes would take place?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18502489
>What other changes would take place?
The club has an orgy before confronting Takano

[Anonymous No.]

>>18502529
You mean while

[Anonymous No.]

>>18502529

I mean that much is a given.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18501961
I really love Ryu artstyle but this one looks retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18502044
Shannon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18501961
Dad

[Anonymous No.]

>>18501559
Not necessarily. One could also come up with the wordplay based on some of the lines and turning it into math.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18502608
>Ryu artstyle
It's literally "I was just pretending to be retarded" - the artstyle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18502529
How the fuck did King get away with having a loli orgy in It?

[Anonymous No.]

Post nice Higurashi/Umineko crossover art or wallpapers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18504103
what book

[Anonymous No.]

>>18504389

[Anonymous No.]

Has anyone uploaded any of the concert Umineko albums?

[Anonymous No.]

Are there any good Higurashi LPs out there? I want to replay the game but I would rather do it through another person and see their experiences with it.

[Anonymous No.]

Tinfoilkastel is best kastel

[Anonymous No.]

>>18505592

[Anonymous No.]

>>18505507
Fuandon.

>>18504635
"It" is a single big ass book by Stephen King. There is a part where an 11 year old loli and her male friends are terrified of the killer clown and lost in the sewers. The loli decides to let all the boys fuck her one after the other to lift their morale or some shit.

It's a shame that more than half of the book takes place in the future when they are all like 40.

The slutty tomboy loli is played by a relatively cute actress in the 90s TV film and by a 10/10 cutie in the 2017 movie.