Mahjong Thread

[Anonymous No.]

"You deserve that 4th place"-Edition

https://pastebin.com/ML5gMMY9

[Anonymous No.]

Post your best hand asserting dominance.

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>>18346421
>END
I thought the point of asserting dominance is making the others fear you?
I mean you obviously dominated, it's the third South round and you were leading with 25k points.
This is "I play like a retard and fucked up but still got first place"

[Anonymous No.]

the power of riding wins and getting free games on just a single event ticket

got a kokushi in one of those games to boot

[Anonymous No.]

>>18346567
I think the client is a bit annoying. Like each thing needs to be downloaded separately.

[Anonymous No.]

feel when got 2nd and only played south 3rd and 4th

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>>18346421
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016110207gm-0089-0000-0454acf3&tw=0&ts=5
A single hand is just luck. This is how you assert your dominance.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone have a good mahjong app for android? I only see some without red doras (based on the preview pics)

[Anonymous No.]

>3:0

[Anonymous No.]

>two 4th places in a row
>two games where opponent just have dumb luck
Last game was pretty annoying, 6k but I'm leader and had a fast hand. The kamicha waited for the same tile and drew it himself with some bullshit uradoras just like the game before

>>18347545
Sega MJ is also on android.

[Anonymous No.]

>know how to play safe tiles and go defensively
>but every single time I never seem to be able to make a hand when I want to do offense
>Can't format asspull mangans always make bad discards
Someone please explain to me how I'm supposed to format my hand when I always start in 5-4 shanten and can never get good draws

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>>18349841
I'm not good but I'd say tanyao, pinfu and riichi nets you 3 han, with doras you can get it up to mangan easily. It's fast to build too

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Mfw I have so many draws as a dealer, my 1 han hand gives me 6900 points

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>>18349918
Oh wait no, those were my riichi sticks, I forgot about that. Still, 900 through honba

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>>18349841
Read Daina's book, post replays, get good.

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>>18347545
You can play Tenhou and SegaMJ on Android. Unless you're looking for an offline one?

[Anonymous No.]

>3:0

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>>18349866
Tanyao and pinfu are truly the easiest way to get to mangans. You don't have to do anything fancy, it leads to double sided waits, and since you aren't calling anything you've got a lot of room to defend if you need to.

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SegaMJ looks pretty shit though. The tiles on the table looks nice but the tiles in your hand are just some shitty .jpg files and look like shit. But I like how all of the yakus are counted

[Anonymous No.]

I don't want to play hanchan, but I also don't want to play fast tonpuusenn. I haven't played in a long time, so 5 second turns will only make my formation mistakes worse. Should I force myself to like hanchan?

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>>18350581
What's wrong with hanchan?
Why don't you just play normal tonpuusen? Sega MJ in freemode is tonpuusen and I'd say you find more players fater than on tenhou. You'll also see more Kans

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>>18350581
>Should I force myself to like hanchan?
Yes. A tonpuusen is way too short desu

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>>18350735
>What's wrong with hanchan?
Nothing, but I'm definitely not used to the length since I have always played tonpuusen.
>Why don't you just play normal tonpuusen?
Because it's always 0:0 unless I go on ippan.

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>>18350808
Just letting you know that after I posted I got into a game in Sega MJ so definitely give it a try

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>>18346421
Pick one.

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>>18346567
That domination. Nice!

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>opponents get a mangan starting hands with 3 shanten or less and finishes it within 6 turns
Seriously, what is going on? All games I had today, I got shitty hands while my opponents got 2-3 shanten. Especially when I'm dealer I had to deal with 3-6th turn riichis.
Last game was kinda ridiculous with only 4 games, 2 haneman (1 tsumo, 1 ron), 1mangan I dealt into (I was in tenpai for a 1p but could've finished the hand if I decided for a 3p wait) and she finished it with this

And for some reason tenhou now only lists one game instead of the 10 I had this month

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>>18351754
Looks like mahjong rejected you.

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>>18270721
I'm fairly retarded so can someone please explain to me how I should value winds? I'm not sure what gives one worth unless there's a dora indicator.

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>>18352421
Every player has a seat wind. For that player, the wind that matches their seat is worth yakuhai for them and them only (one exception below). So a player sitting west gets yakuhai for a west wind triplet (or quad), while other seats wouldn't. Similarly, that same player wouldn't get value from a north wind triplet.

In addition to this, there's also a concurrent round wind that is worth yakuhai to everyone. East in the east round, south in the south round. In the case of the dealer (east) in the east round, his double up, so a dealer in the east round with a triplet or more of the east wind gets two yakuhai for the one triplet (called dabuton, lit. double east). The south player in the south round has the same thing (dabunan, double south).

Whether a tile is worth yakuhai or not is also valuable knowledge in regards to forming the pair. Pinfu requires that all tile groupings be sequences, that it is waiting on two sides when tenpai, and lastly, that the pair utilized is not yakuhai (or, more specifically, that it does not grant the hand any additional Fu. This is essentially the same thing though, as the only tiles that can grant Fu while being utilized as a pair are yakuhai tiles.) So, following this, a player sitting west could not use the west or east (south in the south round) wind tiles as a pair for a valid Pinfu hand, but he could use the north and south (east in the south round) wind tiles.

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>>18352508
Thank you for the in-depth explanation. I feel like I'm ruining everyone else's playing experience when I make really stupid moves, so hopefully this will help me make less of those.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18351926
I won't give up

[Anonymous No.]

>>18352629
don't worry about. ippan is a place of learning

[Anonymous No.]

Games where you don't get to do anything at all and no one tsumos so you end up in second place with +5.0 frustrates me just a little.

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>>18352979
Would you rather be third or fourth?

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>>18353227
Maybe not fourth, but I'd rather get ronned than left out of the action. The best hands usually come after a big loss, anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

I got robbed! That's MY 8 pin!

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>>18354365
I feel you. Also had a Chin Itsu hand yesterday, but two 8pin tiles were in the dead wall. No wonder none of them were discarded. Looks fancy though.

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>>18354531
>2 chuns, 3 haku and hatsu
>1 of each haku and hatsu on the table
>someone has to deal those chuns eventually
>ryuukyoku
>no one has them

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>Have a kanchan
>Decide to break it by discarding one tile
>Draw the tile that would have completed the kanchan next turn
How does one decide whether or not to keep your furiten ryanmen or to keep breaking it? Asking for both when developing your hand and when you're close to tenpai.

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Keeping the dora would've been smart considering 4 and 7Sou were safe but I thought "Well, I guess I should really go for the honiitsu I failed to fake because I threw the 1s away before the 1m"

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>>18354365
You shouldn't have called riichi.
If you hadn't you would've waited for a 8p on a 8han hand

[Anonymous No.]

>>18356558
And to think, that hand can actually improve.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18350581
How is it possible to not wont the second dealership turn?

[Anonymous No.]

>2:4

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>>18356517
Dora pair, or honitsu. Same value.

[Anonymous No.]

I hate myself

[Anonymous No.]

>>18362408
Why the fuck would you do that?

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>>18354630
me yesterday
>4 haku, 3 chun, 2 hatsu
>waiting on a hatsu
>get dora on my fucking haku so it's a hell wait
>riichi
>3 turns later
>riichi
>5 turns later
>ron
>counts points
>Riichi
>1000 points
>dududu
I'm going to kill every japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>riichi
>shimocha also riichis
>deal into his ippatsu right away

[Anonymous No.]

>Finally I have decent hand

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>>18366141
Man you were all kinds of fucked. Your waits were dead and everyone else was also in tenpai.

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>>18366397
The sand in the depths of hell is magical sand.

Seriously though, it was a bullshit round. I started with the 3m and haku pair and the remaining tiles were already in the starting hands of the others. I didn't call riichi immediately because I knew the hand could improve (2/4m and 9s) so I guess this hand might be proof that I'm improving. But maybe calling riichi would've made the shimocha discard the haku tiles

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>>18365218
>riichi on 5th turn
>get double ron'd

[Anonymous No.]

>>18366698
>>18365218
Maybe try not using shitty waits

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>>18362616
I just thought "gotta go fast", so I insta called witout giving it a second thought. I'd like to blame it on me being sick.
I felt like Washizu though. My starting hands through 2 hanchan were all really good with lots of dora on top of that.

[Anonymous No.]

Getting a bit annoyed with the Free Modein SegaMJ. Everyone is just trying to finish hands as fast as possible no matter how much points they get
Also what does this say?
>>18366889
But where is your yaku?
I only see a potential three color straight but you already discarded the 1p so a furiten is likely.
At least Washizu had the excuse that he's getting outplayed by an autist

[Anonymous No.]

>iishanten for a mangan hand
>dealer riichi's
>next draw is my tenpai
>need to toss extremely dangerous akadora to riichi
>well, guess the hand is dead
>yup betaori time
>can't win em all
>run today, win tomorrow

>hit riichi and deal into dealer mangan

I have issues

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>>18367219
Free mode is full of people who aren't very good at mahjong, especially people below 3 dan or so. I'm not sure if it places you with people based on rank, but I come across more people of higher dan as 9dan.

Also it says you've already reached this month's limit for free gold acquisition.

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>>18367219
>But where is your yaku?
See? That's why I hate myself

[Anonymous No.]

Everytime I got my hand to tenpai, some other faggot got to tenpai the draw before and finished it. I think I got ron'd twice when calling riichi.
This faggot didn't even try to win, finally the single haku toimen was hoarding got out, I called it, shimocha got into tenpai, kamicha discarded the 7p

The round before was also nice, 1shanten starting hand that took me 14 turns to get into tenpai while I drew/discarded sequences up the ass

[Anonymous No.]

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2018020904gm-0009-0000-120de248&tw=1

Can someone tell me where I fucked up? Because I felt like I got boned big time, especially in the east round

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>>18367785
I only had time to view e1, which you won, but I did want to bring something to your attention:

when you chose a single wait tile, make sure you have some camouflage. you tossed the 4m to wait on the 5m. I would never toss you that tile on the basis of the ura-suji (never deal in suji tiles of the tiles right next to the riichi indicator).

tossing 5m would have made more sense as there was plenty of 1m and 7m camouflaging your wait. you lucked out in the end but know that a better player would have avoided dealing that tile.

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>>18367785
Besides your shitty riichi hands on the kanchan/tanki waits (which you both won so whatever), there's not much I saw you doing wrong.
The main reason you lost so many points is because shimocha had some pretty good hands. You did get ronned for a decent amount there, but that was a pretty early dama tenpai that you couldn't really see coming.

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>>18368095
>>18368228
Only read it while playing this shitty round. I did call richi on a kanchan wait but I thought about forming a 234 three color straight but said "fuck it" once I reached tenpai because it didn't feel like I had much time/options
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2018020908gm-0009-0000-eea43dcb&tw=2

4th place so I must've fucked up on some parts

[Anonymous No.]

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2018020908gm-0009-0000-8f6cd275&tw=1

Is there a greater feeling than going from only 100 points left in the south round to 1st place? Also what would you have done in this situation?

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>>18369108
Kan and force toitoi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18366746
How?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18369108
Kan and Dora 4
Also that draw of the 1p was pretty lucky.
Just had a match where I got disconnected, had 45667 sou in my hand and the cpu dealt the 5 and 8 sou it drew. Luckily I got another 8 sou at the end but still that was pretty stupid
>>18369555
Go for 7 pairs :^)

Seriously though, I'm not an expert but I would've discarded the 9m for tanyao.
None of the tiles around the 3 sou were dealt which is kinda suspicious.You would've probably still dealt into a hand but at least you would've bought some time for someone else to deal in.

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>>18369883
>deal 9m for tanyao
Yeah, that was a fuckup on my part. Saw the delicious free sex button and clicked on it. I was scared of kamicha waiting on middle souzu though.

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>tfw you win but you couldn't push that annoying piece of shit from second place

At least he dealt into my haneman. Is it normal that I want to get better because I want to dominate my enemies?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18371030
>Is it normal that I want to get better because I want to dominate my enemies?

That is your only mission

[Anonymous No.]

>play for a week like a complete dead body
>average placement: 3,38
>Promotion! you are promoted to 8 kyuu!

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>>18369276
At this point in the game, the kan is more likely to hurt you than to help you.

>>18369108
Drop the 7pin to maintain tenpai, If a 9s drops (and the opponents hands don't suddenly look scary) pon and go toitoi.
Otherwise fold on 9s or 7pin.
A kan at this point is more likely to help the others who can still riichi, and will reduce the number of tiles you can fold on considerably.

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I think I never won when I had a good starting hand.
Either my opponents have an even better/faster hand, draw some amazing tiles out of their ass or I'm stuck with the 1shanten

I was in 1shanten since the third turn.
First round of that game I had a good and fast hand, 2 hatsu, 2chun, 2 south wind and 12223p but I still lost because kamicha finished that hand too one turn after she reached tenpai ( I was in wait for the chun at turn 4-5 I think, she finished her hand at the 6th or 7th)

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>purposefully wait several seconds pressing the "ron" button when the person just dealt into my yakuman

Oh ho ho ho. Delightfully devilish, Seymour.

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>>18375767
fucking cunt i used to hate people like you but now i just dodge their riichis

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>>18375767
I just think people are just taking their time because they tab out or something like that.
Sometimes they take a while to call a tile or discarding too

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>>18375767
In poker we call this "slowrolling", although I suppose it's less scummy when you're not actually wagering.

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>>18375922
Usually when I riichi I stop paying attention to the game. When someone calls ron or the timer starts is when I tab back, so I don't see it as a asshole move either.

[Anonymous No.]

These are from a beginner mahjong set sold in Japan as "Master Mahjong." I liked the layout of the Yaku list and the fact that the very same list, the scoring tables, and a summation of the scoring rules fit on one sheet of paper that could be folded into a small pamphlet. I thought you guys might like this too, so I scanned them, and also made an English version. All of the Yaku names are just romanized Japanese, because I mainly intended it for here, and I see the Japanese names for yaku more often than anything else, but I also have saved the project files (pdn for paint.net) which have all the text on a second layer that can be edited should you wish to make one to your taste.

The attached image is actually a lower-quality version of the original scan (the original was too big to post on 4chan). I have the original scans and English versions hosted here.
https://ryanpeikou.neocities.org/mastermahjong.html

There's also an introductory booklet which I would like to scan eventually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18377592
Thanks anon. This looks interesting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18377592
That looks neat.
Good job anon.

[Anonymous No.]

Do you lay traps for your waits? Suji traps, purposely making non efficient early discards (eg you have two 7s at the beginning, you discard one on your first turn and later wait with 7-9, or 78), that kind of thing.

I don't do that much but I wonder if that'd be a good idea to sacrifice efficiency like that in some situations.

[Anonymous No.]

How bad do you think things would get if Tenhou died? The playerbase seems to have been shrinking for a couple of years in a row now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18379561
I don't. But knowing your wait happens to be a suji trap may change some of your decisions

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder to always bully 4th place

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone else start a secondary account to troll with in Joukyuu? I pick out a player at the start of the game and decide I'm gonna make that player lose. Then I purposefully deal into the hands of first and second as much as possible to make sure that third can't possibly catch up. I can just imagine their seething hate and bewilderment as I constantly feed the first and second places

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>>18382613
You fucking cunt.

>>18383007
>his fucking name
Jesus.

[Anonymous No.]

why can't I ron off a tile sometimes? I made sure that I'm not in furiten but tenhou skips me and makes me in temporary furiten or not able to tsumo

[Anonymous No.]

>>18383307
Furiten.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18383307

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>>18383007
Why am I laughing at this?

>>18383069
What does his name say?

>>18383307
No yaku
see
>>18346551
>>18383401

[Anonymous No.]

>>18379561
By and large you shouldn't do it until houou, and maybe rarely in tokujou. The loss of efficiency almost always outweighs any increase in ron rate.

>>18383525
>What does his name say?
"My name is dora dora"

[Anonymous No.]

>>18383525
Roughly, 'my name is doradora'.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18383665
>>18383676
Are there really "specialties" for players? I feel like I get (potential) 7 pairs very often but that's probably just superstition

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>>18383898
How do you even specialise in getting 13 doras? Stuff like sanshoku and toitoi I get, since some players tend to gravitate towards a certain yaku, like you and chiitoitsu (probably). That guy's probably just chosen by the mahjong gods.

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>>18383007
Holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

3:0

[Anonymous No.]

gg

>tfw bullshit luck is on my side today

[Anonymous No.]

>>18384481
GG, yeah.
I missed out on something very nice!
Look at those ura.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18384540
>tfw almost dealt in a sanbaiman

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>>18384013
>How do you even specialise in getting 13 doras?
Maybe he's just getting a lot of doras in general.
Of course people have each their own preferred approach to build a hand. What I mean could be called "blessings from the mahjong gods" I guess.
A lot of times I get so many potential pairs, it's funny considering the probability

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Why do so many people keep honor tiles? I see the point in keeping a pair but in some games people keep them in their hand for several turns but wouldn't it be better to throw them away for any of the numbered tiles?
>>18384540
I never really bothered with customizing the client. Can I just use any image?
Also what do all those music settings mean?

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>>18384601
I don't understand keeping single honours, either.
Yeah, you can just find any old picture, and you can set the tile backings to whatever colour.
Which music settings?

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>>18384601
I keep them when I have a bad hand for "just incase" scenarios, like getting another hatsu or something. Honor tiles that aren't worth shit will be kept for eventual safe tiles against the pesky shimocha riichi.

>>18384556
Yeah, some people are just blessed with good luck. 8 doras is a little bullshit though. Do you take your pairs to chiitoitsu or toitoi?
On a side note, will I start winning games if I name myself わが名は役MAN? Is there a trick to summoning the mahjong gods?

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>>18384607
It's weird to see people cling to single honors for so long. Had a game where some dude kept like 4 honors the entire hand. South wind, chun, haku and hatsu, he even discarded a chun earlier (~10th turn) but kept it for several turns and dealt into my hand since I drew one and changed my single tile wait because his discarded chun was the only one in the pond and wasn't called
>Which music settings?
All of this shit.

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>>18384625
Oh, okay.
In order, they're
>Normal Lobby
>Tournament Lobby
>East Round
>South Round
>S4
>Sudden Death (West/North Round)
>Riichi
>Multiple Riichis
>End of game.
Also, fix your locale, King.

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>>18384601
I usually keep 3-4 of them when my hand is hard to finish/trash and I need to draw a second one for Yakuhai to GO FAST. It works for defense too.

And of course the obvious Hon Itsu but that's too easy to defend against.

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>>18384621
>Do you take your pairs to chiitoitsu or toitoi?
If there are 2+ pairs and a 8p (single or pair) in my hand it's likely that I will draw some bullshit pairs later on but I never go for it because I think "that's just superstition/my delusion, stick with the smarter decisions"

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>>18384633
>too easy to defend
but Chanta. It's both pon and chii and it reuses garbage winds as a filler all the same. He'll just think, "yeah or Hon Itsu if lucky".

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>>18384652
Why 8p in particular?

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>>18384630
Ah, alright. So I can just add any music files to play during those events?

>Also, fix your locale, King.
No

>>18384633
But why keep them for so long? Tanyao is fast to build too and keeping those useless tiles will just stay in your way of progressing your hand. Even when going for Honitsu it's better if your starting hand has a lot of a single suit and 1-2 pairs of honors

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>>18384675
Yeah, the button underneath on the next brings up the file browser.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18384674
No idea, it's always in my hand or pond when getting all those pairs. It's like a sign.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18384677
>on the next
left***

[Anonymous No.]

>>18384675
>tanyao
Is it just me, or is chanta a lot easier to build? Those 9s always fuck my shit up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18384679
It's time to follow your 8p, not your heart or mind.

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>>18384663
Yeah, it's pretty hard to stop a Chanta, people just keep discarding their terminals or close. It might be faster than open tanyao desu.

>>18384681
With equally bad hands for tanyao and chanta, I think chanta progresses faster.

>>18384675
>But why keep them for so long?
I don't understand either. I keep them for 6, maybe 8 turns when I really need this Yakuhai, not more.

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>>18384681
>>18384688
I always get a mix of a shitload of numbered tiles and a few pairs of terminals or honors. I think it's harder to build chanta since the number of available tiles is much less.

>>18384686
Funnily enough the few times I actually got sanankou (and that one time, a suuankou) always feature the 8p
It's weird but I won't let my mind get clouded by superstitions

>>18384688
Yeah, that I can accept but I've seen players keeping that single tile for much longer. 8th turn is already pretty late but if your hand is really shit keeping them isn't that unusual especially when you keep drawing even shittier tiles

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>>18384791
The number of available tiles isn't that much lower (25 instead of 34), the problem is the number of sequences you can make : 2 (123 and 789) instead of 4 in Tanyao. But since you can usually Pon the 1 or the 9, that makes it about as easy, or even easier since people will throw more tiles you need.

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>>18384820
If it's kick the fat dealer episode, would you do that on purpose? I swear I saw the whole table feed me terminals yesterday, and we made it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18384911
Gotta finish this Tanyao.

[Anonymous No.]

>two assholes disconnect in the last round
>one of them gives me a houtei ron
At least something came out of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18384601
Generally it's the tile you keep around to avoid any ippatsu should someone call riichi. If you're building 2-sided waits, then keeping just one honor tile wouldn't be too much of a detriment to your efficiency, while also giving you a save in case you need to defend, without needing to break your hand apart on the first sight of riichi.

[Anonymous No.]

mahjong is too easy lads

[Anonymous No.]

>>18386016
What's your rank and Rate?

[Anonymous No.]

Where can I buy cool mahjong stuff?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18386086
Chinatown.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18383007
I can't stop laughing, holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>18383007

[Anonymous No.]

>>18382613
This NoName guy just fed me both hatsu and chun, no way it's not on purpose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18387393
Happens to the best of us. Or they're just too kind

[Anonymous No.]

>whenever an opponent enters tenpai, I draw his winning tile which is completely useless to me

I managed to get third in the last round by tsumo with an opened honitsu+ittsu+hatsu hand but still fuck me

[Anonymous No.]

Tanki waits on the dora are a completely valid strategy. It's so dumb that no one expects it and they deal in every time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18387825
>It's too stupid, I'll change my wait
>deal into someone elses tanki wait

FUCK
ME

[Anonymous No.]

Mahjong newfag reading Akagi here. What does it mean when tiles are placed horizontally? Like how in a chi or pon one is always horizontal while the other two are vertical. Or when a tile is placed horizontally in the pool while the others are vertical. It seems like something really basic, but google doesn't want to cooperate.

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>>18387921
It shows from which player you got the tile.
Placing a tile horizontally in the pond is done when declaring riichi

[Anonymous No.]

The tile on the left is sideways if you call from the player on your left, middle player is across, and right tile if you call from the player on the right.

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>>18387921
Horizontal tile in the pool (and 1000 points stick next to it): Calling riichi.

Horizontal tile in the Pon/Chi: indicates the neighbor you stole it from. When the horizontal tile is at the left, it's your left neighbor, at the middle: the guy in front of you, at the right: the guy at your right.

By the way, the same applies to Kan. Pic related is a closed Kan (you had the 4 tiles in your hand before calling Kan), but when you're completing a Kan from another person's discard, or promoting a Pon to a Kan (you've drawn the fourth tile after ponning), you have to put the tile horizontally accordingly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18387947
>>18387949
>>18387952
That seems incredibly obvious in hindsight and I'm retarded for not seeing it. Thanks anons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18387858
>guy riichis on a 3 sided wait throwing away a dora
>right into my tanki dora wait
It's so dumb and I didn't deserve those points but fuck it feels good

[Anonymous No.]

>>18387921
No problem. Newfags have the excuse of being fresh players. See you in hell in a couple years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18383007
This is where dama pinfu is acceptable

[Anonymous No.]

>>18388284
His only yaku is riichi. Literally Washizu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18388284
>What is a yaku?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18377592
Appreciate this, anon.

Although I am a bit bitter that I just put in the effort for a similar and worse list for my friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18388288
>>18389090
No, I am talking about the guy who dealt in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18390707
Saying that "if you had kept dama pinfu you would have been able to fold" is on hindsight. We don't know when the dora kan happened but seeing it's houou we can assume it was after North's riichi. North riichis, east chases with a dora ankan and North deals in, just a bout of bad luck.
I still think that riichi pinfu dora wasn't wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

Tanoshii tourney when

[Anonymous No.]

>>18390761
When you get off your ass and organise it.
Don't forget to have a match for 5th place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18390761
Hopefully soon. It's been too long.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18390949
I know that there was/were a tourney/tournies but don't know what actually happened. How was it organised and played?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18391042
I can't remember the player amount, but it should have been between 16 and 20. 4 people got matched up and the top two moved on ahead and so on. No busting out, people kept playing for the full hanchan. Something like that, I think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18391590
>the last time was in april 2014
Someone bring it back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18391879
>2014 was 4 years ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18391042
There were some individual tourneys. I forgot if it's single hanchan or double, but aside that, the rule was just generic Tenhou.
>>18391879
Was it really that old? I remember I joined a 2v2 mini-tourney, but I can't remember if it's /jp/'s or Osamuko's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18394786
I actually don't remember, that date was just swiped from arcturus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18390767
>5th place

That is the most important place

[Anonymous No.]

>>18390743
Well, if this is a Houou game, pull it out. Let's see what really happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18395090
I would if I could, I'm not the anon who posted that screenshot so I wouldn't know where to get it. I'd be really surprised to see a houou riichi against 4dora while in first.

[Anonymous No.]

Well, that was some ippan level of play

[Anonymous No.]

>my dealer turn finally!
>time to turn things around!
>starting hand is absolute unworkable garbage
>simocha tsumos on the 6th turn

oh look, it's another one of those nights...
hope you assholes enjoy the points and R, I sure as fuck wont

[Anonymous No.]

>>18396110
>East round, finally dealer turn
>time to widen my lead
>some faggot finishes a dumb 1han hand by calling tiles like crazy

Do you even want to win?

[Anonymous No.]

Are one of you Asmirnov?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18396110
>my dealer turn
>toimen double riichis

[Anonymous No.]

>>18390761
I'd love to organise another one, but unfortunately I'm way too busy these days. Maybe when Shinohayu gets an anime.

>>18391042
We had two individual tournaments, 16 and 32 players respectively. Two hanchan per round, top two advance, standard Tenhou rules. We also did a Ten-themed East vs West tournament (years before LAPOM, might I add). West won though

If anyone's interested, here are the Youtube playlists for each tournament. Maybe one day I'll resurrect the website for posterity.
Summer 2013: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0WmqpVyT_gXEGvviMhlO1fNLsRiAwkJJ
East/West: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0WmqpVyT_gUYRx3uhhDnEpECaIxTzBIz
Spring 2014: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0WmqpVyT_gWjn7RWFpoEQA_t5oGOc-d7

[Anonymous No.]

>only realise I fucked up when watching replay
That's what I deserve for playing half asleep. Is there an optimal time for online tile games? When do anons usually play?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18396249
that would be me, what's up?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18396110
>my dealer turn
>be blessed by the mahjong gods
>bully everyone

[Anonymous No.]

>>18398701
No special reason, you were in a couple of our games and we weren't sure if you were from the /jp/ or from the mahjong discord.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18394786
>Was it really that old?
We had tournments here in early 2016. Officialy it was a /jp/ vs /a/ tournament.

[Anonymous No.]

What would be a good time and date to do another tournament?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18400050
Ranking pic related. Those where the days when Gogo was still around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18400072
>Corak at the bottom
wow, he sure came back

[Anonymous No.]

>>18400072
Man, those sure nostalgic names.

[Anonymous No.]

3:0

[Anonymous No.]

>>18398143
When you're awake, and preferably when the nips are half asleep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18398143
Weekend afternoons I'm guessing. You get less late night NEETs and mornings will have some nips asakarapinpinning.

Really negligible difference though. Just play when you have an hour to spare and you're awake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18398143
Whenever you have time is fine. The variance is usually negligible although it seems early Monday morning JST is the worst time of the week. Play whenever you can focus well if you are trying to rank up and make sure to stop for an hour or so if you get frustrated.

[Anonymous No.]

If you play ten hanchan a day the time doesn't matter at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>18401175
>only 10

[Anonymous No.]

West always feels really tense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18401424
Tenhou is too slow. Aiming for n+1 if you get jansou speed of play.

>>18401457
If only you had heard my scream when I drew that dora.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18401467
I had two of them and a closed wait on 4s, but Shimocha had all three of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>it's another "I never got ronned but ended up last anyway" episode
>it's another "eternal iishanten" episode
>it's another "better start driving a garbage truck since you only ever pick up trash" episode

[Anonymous No.]

3:0 again.

[Anonymous No.]

>this newfag stage where you can't play for fun anymore but need to study replays instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>18402787
>read articles and watch replays
>I think I'm ready for the real thing!
>fourth place

[Anonymous No.]

Re-read Daina's book, and share your replays with more skilled players so they can tell you what you're doing wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18402787
>studying replays
Just post them. Self-review rarely works for beginners.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18402993
Which ones do you post even? The ones where you feel like you've gotten robbed or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18403009
Any match, really. You might feel the game is very one-sided, but it's not rare that you are the primary cause of the game being one-sided. Poor keep/discard decision, fail at reading waits, mistiming of attacking/defending, etc.
However, keep in mind that even if a Tenhoui gives review to your game, there are cases where the choices are very debatable. Since obviously we're talking about past game, what you'll get from game review may not be applicable, but in general, you can discern which part you're lacking at the time being.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18403009
The most effective ones are those where you get ronned a lot because the feedback is something you can very easily take away and apply in your next game.
However, like the other anon said, feel free to post any game. Those where nothing happens could be due to a lack of efficiency or poor wait decisions which is still room for you to improve.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18400064
Saturdays at noon UTC

[Anonymous No.]

Ok so I probably could not prevent this 1m trap. If it feels like a pairs/pon round with everyone mimicking discards of each other, the person in hidden tenpai just can wait for the fourth one of any of them and have all the chances, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18403197
Rather than complaining about the time you dealt into a dama chiitoitsu for a staggering 1600 points, you should worry more about what led you to have a mere 6400 points in S3.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18403375
A tsumo yakuman happened and the other guys fought really hard to recover, but not me. Posted this because no way in hell I'd clean out that 2p-9p group so decisively. They know something I don't. Probably just "hey if there's less 2p and 9p for people, the rest is maybe already hard sequenced", or something.

[Anonymous No.]

thank you based mahjong gods

this was worth the constant DCing in the last 3 games i played

[Anonymous No.]

>>18403197
>wait for the fourth one of any of them and have all the chances
>>18403465
>clean out
>hard sequenced
I'm no mahjong expert but I'm confused as fuck
what do these words mean
am I supposed to the understanding this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18403798
I'm sorry for typing like a retard. There should be a term for something tanyao tiles tend to do, being mostly used in hands of people. Unless I'm wrong for thinking like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18403798
Not sure myself but I'd say
>clean out
get rid of
>hard sequenced
sequence already formed and stuck into their hands?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18403968
>being mostly used in hands of people
Hoarded, Held.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18404065

[Anonymous No.]

Well, that was a clean hit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18404407
Can you still call riichi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18404423
nope

[Anonymous No.]

If anybody is wondering what you might get out of a SR bingo card, here's what I got from mine:

Gold Chest:
MJ Gold
Rare BG (Space)
Rare Top
N+ Border
SP (Rainbow) Chest:
Rare Hair x2
Rare Border
+700 Casino Chips (!)

Looks like there's a ton of variance in the SP Chests.

[Anonymous No.]

>Be first dealer
>Kamicha gets tsumo yakuman

[Anonymous No.]

>play like shit
>get bailed out in the end

This guy almost chose the wrong tanki

[Anonymous No.]

>get in tenpai for suu ankou, shanpon wait
>only two possible tiles to win
>guy drops it
>ron him for mangan
>get angry at myself for missing on the possible yakuman
>watch replay
>the other tile was already in someone's hand anyway

So I did well, but maybe I should have called riichi for haneman or baiman. Is it even a good idea to call riichi when you have a yakuman/suu ankou? Feels like people will just betaori until the end of the round.

[Anonymous No.]

How do you know the point where you should switch from speed to defense? It's obvious if somebody calls riichi but I'm talking about defense against damaten.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18407795
unless you notice a player that rapidly tsumogiri's all their draws (toss the tile they just drew) you shouldn't worry about damaten. Damaten happens but is typically used by players in the lead that value pushing the game ahead over higher scoring hands.

There are always exceptions of course, but stay in the realm of the honest most likely outcome

Be extremely suspicious of any open hands with two or more calls. those are quite often in tenpai and should be defended against unless you have compelling reasons not to do so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18407703
I wouldn't riichi a yakuman, since it doesn't give you any more points. Though if you're not insistant on the suu ankou, you could probably riichi for the extra han if you ron off someone. Or lock yourself in tenpai to show your determination to get that last tile without relying on anyone else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18407703
>real_men_riichi_yakuman_hands.jpg

[Anonymous No.]

>>18403465
There's no magic insight going on, the guy just went for chiitoitsu and got lucky. A yakuman tsumo is unfortunate but
>the other guys fought really hard to recover, but not me
This is the real issue here.

>>18407795
Don't bother unless it's really obvious.

>>18407703
Suuankou with a shanpon wait is basically the only time you should riichi a yakuman. This is because you only get the yakuman if you tsumo, and riichi helps to scare off other players from finishing their hands, giving you more time to tsumo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18408842
>This is because you only get the yakuman if you tsumo, and riichi helps to scare off other players from finishing their hands, giving you more time to tsumo.

Not to mention that even if you go out on a ron, if you land uradora it's almost a guaranteed baiman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18409493
>baiman
Isn't sanankou, toitoi and riich only mangan? Pardon my newness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18409584
>If you land uradora
You get 2-3 han for uradora, more likely 3 han, so it's almost baiman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18409617
Oh, thanks. Sorry for being retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18407795
>>18407906

[Anonymous No.]

I'm fairly confident with calculating fu at this point but I can't for the life of me remember which scores correspond to han and fu values. Anyone have any tips for remembering them?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>18410009
Memorise the Japanese short hand.
For 30fu, it goes
sen 1000
ni sen 2000
zankyuu/zanku 3900
chichi 7700
and so on for the other fu values. You remember them together and just run through them while counting the han.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18410009
>>18410158
Also, remember that x2 fu = +1 han, so if you know that 3han 40fu is 5200, then you also know 2han 80fu (and 4han 20fu). That can help you work out some of the rare scores without breaking out the chart.

[Anonymous No.]

This round was the worst. I'm aware some of my waits were bad, so I should probably be able to improve on that. But still that last honba was just bullshit
>3rd turn
>5 calls in a row, but it's good, I got in tenpai
>Next turn able to switch my single tile wait to a ryanmen wait
>Kamicha my overflowing tile was kamicha's winning tile.
And there go my 4 riichi sticks

http://tenhou.net/5/?log=2018021605gm-0089-0000-57751db9&tw=1

[Anonymous No.]

http://tenhou.net/3/?L7447

2:4

[Anonymous No.]

>3:0

[Anonymous No.]

>3:0

[Anonymous No.]

I was curious if I could still bring this home. With toimen having 4 winning tiles in the wall, that looks unlikely. Kinda hilarious that one guy would draw all the 6pin though.

[Anonymous No.]

>Feel good with my hatsu and kan on dora threatening the table
>Someone else dares to kan
>Draw 3pin, can't see it so I break my tenpai
>Draw former winning tile next turn
All in all that were two nice hanchan though

[Anonymous No.]

>>18413277
Guy who made the kan here, i didn't notice you had 4 dora because i'm retarded

[Anonymous No.]

1:0

[Anonymous No.]

>>18414208
MAKE THAT 2:0

[Anonymous No.]

gg, anon.
2:4 for akadora nashi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18414437
thx. was hoping to see some folks I've played, but 7447 seems to have new players

[Anonymous No.]

1:8
Is it a coincidence that today is the first day of the chinese new year? It gets me in the mood for some friendly mahjong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18414837
Let's have a good one anon.
3:8

[Anonymous No.]

>>18414883
>1:8
Wow, it's a party tonight, eh?

[Anonymous No.]

Everytime I go into 7447 I see 0:4.
Happy new year fellow chinks.

[Anonymous No.]

>3:4

[Anonymous No.]

I'm getting disheartened with this game. I'm stuck at upper beginner, breaking even at joukyuu level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18413277
You usually shouldn't fold if you've got a mangan.

>>18415325
Get good

[Anonymous No.]

Neither the classic flash game nor my little random android app I use a lot have these red doras, and now I see them in the multiplayer game, and they weird me out. What is the purpose? Tanyao is OP as it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18415947
They're there to make the game more fun and exciting
and tanyao is only good for making people lose. If you have a sizeable lead, you can tanyao your way to the end of the game and make everyone mad. However, you can't tanyao from start to end and expect to gain enough points to win consistently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18416086
I see now, for example sometimes people will will want to call it and it's exploitable. And backfireable. Actually it's nice!

[Anonymous No.]

>>18400072
>gogo

good times: next tourney when?

[Anonymous No.]

Was it possible to me to not deal in?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18419941
You had 4 safe tiles and your hand wasn't that worth keeping. What's your problem?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18419971
Ah I see, I didn't react to riichi because I was greedy of my dealer turn but it's exactly why I should be reacting.

[Anonymous No.]

What's your opinions on when to use kans.
Often when I see someone else kan they just give me extra doras and it shoots them in the foot.

>>18419941
You're not even in tenpai dude. You had 3 9mans you could have chucked which would have been guaranteed safe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18420056
For attacking, you can treat it as Hail Mary throw hoping for 4 extra dora, tenpai chase, rinshan draw, etc. Or you can treat it as a 3-tile set + 1 free tile to dump.
For defending, one kan set can be 4 safe tiles or 4 dangerous tiles. If it's the former, that's 4 safe turns. If it's the latter, you can either hold them and play around other tiles to discard, or call a kan to deprive him from haitei draw.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18419941
>8s and 2s in the pond
that makes non-suji souzou middle tiles extremely dangerous. Your hand wasn't worth taking the risk either.

here's a lesson I learned the hard way (and still struggle with sometimes): another player getting ronned can be a victory for you as well

[Anonymous No.]

This is now porn to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>18420056
If my hand has 2han, a good wait and the others don't have something stupid like dora yakuhai, ankan then riichi. Maybe a daiminkan if I'm in last hoping for tanyao dora something.
I've gotten chankaned from my dora kakan before so the lesson is if you've really got to keep your tenpai, save yourself that extra 1han and just cut it normally.

Carelessly calling kan is fucked up.

[Anonymous No.]

can someone explain this joke on the left? I don't know how to play moonpoker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18420056
But I get an additional tile when I kan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18421124
She instantly won with an insane 128 000 points hand, so I guess the other girl will have to stay naked for the rest of her life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18421169
Thanks, and also the one with the ponytail who won is a manlet fuccboi, not a girl.

Well actually for further clarification, you mean it instantly wins the whole game or it's just too impossible to make a comeback with further rounds? At least I think there are multiple rounds?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18421227
Its hugely above the base points at the start of the game, so he wins straight up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18421227
>a manlet fuccboi, not a girl
What's the difference?

In most rules you start with 25 000 points and the game can end preemptively when someone goes under 0

[Anonymous No.]

new to mahjong, but is this considered a good winning hand:
Ippatsu - 1
Menzenchin tsumohou - 1
Pinfu - 1
Riichi - 1
Dora - 1
Aradora (all three) - 3

[Anonymous No.]

>>18422338
8 han baiman

In terms of points, and in general it is a good hand, but I think, that in mahjong the context of the hand is also important. To me a fast and cheap hand leading in east 4 that I can also defend with if needed is a good hand. At that time, I would rather have that kind of hand than a possible baiman that would be slower. But if I was 4th player, I would want the baiman.

If you are lucky enough to have both, like starting hand 1shanten to chinitsu, that is best.

[Anonymous No.]

Some Jong to celebrate the last chapter of Akagi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18422706
aaa it's out indeed!

[Anonymous No.]

Sorry for all those retarded waits I'll work harder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18422338
For what it's worth, it's aka (red) dora, not "aradora". Also, you can shorten "menzenchin tsumo" to "menzen tsumo" or just "tsumo" if it's obvious that you're talking about the yaku.

Anyways, an edge wait for a guaranteed mangan (5+ han hand) is good. As the other anon said, context is important, but I'd be happy to even pursue other riichi with that in most situations.

[Anonymous No.]

These savage people with close waits of doras!

[Anonymous No.]

>>18420056
I generally don't kan if I'm not at least 1-shanten with a decent hand for exactly that reason. Other than that, I guess it's just a gamble. Tfw you learned Rinshan and Ippatsu don't work together.

[Anonymous No.]

>3:0

One more person

[Anonymous No.]

How do I get good?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18424741
Learn to defend, learn when to go fast or slow or to fold, try to notice what yaku other people might be going for, try to guess what tiles they could be hogging (and that you won't be able to draw), you can expect most of the honors to be thrown in the pond but the 2345678 will be usually kept in people's hands

Basically learn when to push or fold to maximize your efficiency while limiting the risks. Look at what people in riichi discarded to get an idea of the safe and dangerous zones to discard and check whether you were right or not at the end. If someone discarded 9 and 7p at the beginning of the game and called riichi later, then there's a relatively good chance the 8 is safe. If someone discarded an 8p and called riichi right after, then it's the opposite, every tile around the 8p would be dangerous (because the guy might have kept 788p in his hand, drawn another pair, and discarded the 8 to call riichi)

[Anonymous No.]

>>18424770
Thanks for the tips. I should clarify that I'm still a total beginner. I've read the "read before playing" links from the pastebin (well, the two of them that are still online), but I still have difficulty understanding what's going on. I'm playing http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/mahjong/mahjong_e.html , and I can Pon and make sequences and groups that get moved to the side and shown, but I notice most games that I'm the only player that does that, and the computer players often keep their hands closed until the end. I don't understand how I'm supposed to try and build my hand and keep it closed until I'm one tile away from a winning hand so I can Riichi, because every time I complete a trio of tiles they're automatically flipped. Is that because I'm taking from someone's discard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18424582
>all of my games in 7447 today have Variable in them
What a coincidence. Or is he just waiting in there forever?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18424807
Calling Pon/Chi opens your hand. Opening your hand helps you going faster but makes the hand worth less points and you might not be able to win at all with an opened hand.

To be able to win with your hand, it needs to fulfill at least one of pic related requirements (yaku). When your hand stays closed, it's easy: drawing your winning tile with a closed hand is a yaku called menzen tsumo. If you want to win by ron, a closed hand can call riichi when it's one tile away from winning, which is also a yaku.
If you open your hand with Pon/Chi, then you have to make sure you complete at least one yaku. The easiest are yakuhai (having a triplet of dragons, or having a triplet of your seat/the round wind) and tanyao (no honors/terminals : only 2345678).

Of course yaku stack up and give your hand more points (han), so say you have a closed hand with yakuhai, that you call riichi and draw your winning tile to win by tsumo, it'll be worth 1 + 1 + 1 = 3 han.

Keep the yaku list with you when you play so you can memorize them little by little.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18424855
Weekends. Thank you for putting up with my newb bullshit!

[Anonymous No.]

>>18424855
That last game was the first time I've seen variable. Then again, I don't play in 7447 often.
>>18424876
Ah I see. Maybe I'll wait together with you on weekends then.

Man, curbstomping as NoName is fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18424876
Nah, I'm the newb here. You ranked above me half the time too.
>whenever Butane's dealer, she wipes everyone
Female voices are terrifying.

[Anonymous No.]

>Reply to Thread No.18345928

Butane here.
Fear me thx :33

[Anonymous No.]

>>18424891
Waiting is not bothersome at all, I'm just reading with browser opened/sound notification on. Only thing I was not told by people who posted this lobby of yours in /a/, what if some sort of group of friends comes and somehow it happens someone like me snatches a spot? Googling shows it's used really widely. Try to not join 3:0s without advertisements?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18425179
Just crash them. They can make their own room if they want privacy.

@butane-sama
怖えぇ (´・ω・｀)

[Anonymous No.]

>>18425050
You can't get to the top of the monthly 7447 rankings without being a little scary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18425232
怯えなくていいよ
優しくするから

[Anonymous No.]

>3:0

[Anonymous No.]

>>18425232
I see. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18425179
Anything that happens in 7447 is fair game for anyone to show up, especially if it is ari ari (standard). People that are trying to organize use different rooms or simply wait until 3:0 becomes 0:4 and then all queue then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18350182
I can't find Sega MJ on the play store...

[Anonymous No.]

>>18425455
I'm glad I asked. This little tidbit is probably important enough to be in the pastebin.

[Anonymous No.]

If you have a full group, you could always just queue for aka nashi or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18424870
Thank you

[Anonymous No.]

>>18425481
I downloaded it with the Qoo app.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18425916
Thanks man... but I can't even find android apps on this, Just Chinese kitchenware.

Did you set the region for global or something else?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18345928
>3:0

[Anonymous No.]

>>18425889
Or they can just make their own lobby really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18425995
Not him, but I found this APK of it from 4 years ago when it first came out, no idea whether it's been updated since then or anything like that since I'm a total newbie to these threads and Mahjong in general.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/rdke6f0p0b65y83/jp.co.sega.am2.MJMobile.apk

[Anonymous No.]

there are people who open their hand?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18428384
>not wanting to pon on the last ton, which is also the dora, round wind and seat wind
What's wrong with you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18428384
>ah I see
>with these hatsu, chun and haku pairs, I could aim for chiitoitsu!
these is u right now
shaking my head to be honest family

[Anonymous No.]

3:0!

[Anonymous No.]

3:0 here!

[Anonymous No.]

>>18429345
>0:4
Every fucking time.

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>>18429353
I think the trick is to say 3:0 no matter what the queue is, then.

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>opponent get most of her points back after losing
I'm missing something with this game, but what?
keep it mind, there is fantasy elements.

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>>18430178
Seems like one of those games with abilities. I didn't know Granblue mahjong was a thing, neat.

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>>18428094
Me again, don't listen to me, just get it off of Qoo like everyone's saying. The APK I posted doesn't display any of the text.

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What's the best single-player offline mahjong game for Android that won't kill my battery? I've got Sega Mahjong but I want something without all the 3D effects so I can play it for a decent period of time when I'm away from home.

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How can I watch replays on the client? I want to see the potential ura-doras but when I paste the link it doesn't open. Works with the browser
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2018021900gm-0009-0000-f098464b&tw=2

>>18407703
>>18407906
>>18403465
>mfw I called riichi on my first yakuman attempt and got it (suuankou) and got from 4th to 1st in the last round (I was dealer)

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>>18420056
I never call a non-closed Kan, most of the time that tile is in another sequence and it also denies me the riichi which is an additional dora tile but with a "guranteed" yaku.
I only call Kan when I'm in tenpai or one tile away from it. As you said it gives other players dora tiles as well, especially for the ones who still have a closed hand

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>>18431226
I'm trying brother I just can't find shit

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>>18431434
https://apkpure.com/net%E9%BA%BB%E9%9B%80-mj%E3%83%A2%E3%83%90%E3%82%A4%E3%83%AB/jp.co.sega.am2.MJMobile

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>>18422338
It's a good hand, anything starting from mangan (5han or 8000/12000 points) is good.
Everything else should be fast, so either you're leading and want to end the game quickly like a pussy (manly way is to kick second place to fourth to under 0 points), want to get to your dealer turn quickly (let's hope your hand was shit and you weren't just impatient) or you gave up and don't want 2nd/3rd to take the lead

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>>18431434
What are some good Mahjong videogames anyways?

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>>18431434
Wrong search term apparently. Sega and mahjong don't work. Mjmobile got it instantly though.

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>>18431434
Someone linked it already, but that's Qoo10, a shopping web for asians. You want qooapp, a app for downloading stuff that are only on the japanese playstore or something.

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Speaking of kans, allowed kan while riichi is a weird rule. Riichi people should suffer more.

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>>18432108
Does that mean san an kou can become san kan tsu or something? That's pretty fucked up.

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>>18432126
If you have a san ankou in hand when you riichi, it'd still be one after 3 kans, so you'd have both. Technically you could also go super Saki, have a suu ankou in your hand while in riichi and add a suu kan tsu with 4 kan in a row, if you're on a single tile wait. But then we're in triple yakuman territory, so basically dreamland.

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Sometimes when I alt-tab, tenhou's screen freezes but the sounds still play.

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>>18432237
>so basically dreamland.
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016051320gm-00c1-0000-3e439565&tw=2&ts=3

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>>18433303

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>>18433303
We many not see another one of these in 15 years or so.

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I now realize the significance of this hole for unfresh newfags. It's a hole of (crappy) overthinking. I'm now afraid of every single riichi and somehow deal in more.

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>>18431382
>How can I watch replays on the client?
First menu button produce this drop down. After that, it should be obvious.

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>>18424876
After having deranking troubles at 2dan. I ran to 7447. Much practice.

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1:4

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>>18433978
w-what's soa

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why is saki even in the pastebin? its awful and not even mahjong

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>>18434354
sonna okaruto arimasen

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>>18434354
sonna okaruto arimasu

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>>18434354
sakisankawaii o a

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>>18425272
>monthly 7447 rankings
Is that a thing?

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welp

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>>18434716
ariemasen

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>>18434804
Yes.
http://www30.atpages.jp/mojan/dbranking_all_en.php?l=L7447&m=0

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>>18435103
a-arienai!

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>>18435121
>placed last

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>>18435405
Use this feeling as your motivation, anon.

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>>18435405
you placed 4th in over half your games??

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>>18435468
going for cheap hands won't win me the match from last place

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>>18435474
be more ambitious, this is a gambling game

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>>18435504
I did try to bluff a yakuman since my hand was filled with honors, almost got it towards the end. and those Chiitoitsu are almost not worth it with all the wasted pons.

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>>18435516
stop opening your hand

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>>18435516
More importantly, I've gone through replays of some of our games, study the yaku a little bit, I've seen you call yourself into no-yaku hands a couple times, so you're screwing yourself out of potential safe tiles with a hand you can't even with with.
We're all going to make it.

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>>18435547
Win with***

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>>18435516
>losing like crazy, fed up with the whole game
>starting hand is absolute shit
>decide to fuck around and pretend I'm going for kokushi
>people actually fell for that

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>>18431257
Good question. Even the Gamedesign one seems to chunk at it.

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>>18435121
Ah that's interesting.
>103rd
Guess I should play more in 4774, -20 points per game is just unaccepable

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mahjong tanoshii

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>>18433978
I think I'm finally climbing the right side of the intermediate player hole and it's only taken me 1500 games or so.

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>>18434357
You mean the manga and show or the games? The latter are fun as fuck if you don't take them seriously and you can turn off superpowers in the games to get a basic mahjong simulator with cute girls.

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>>18436501
Tokujou bound. That is your goal.

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>>18436518
>The latter are
I meant the former, fuck. They're both fun though.

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>>18428384
To open, or not to open. There are proper times for both. You must know when.

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>>18436545
open: can not riichi
closed: riichi

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1:0

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>2:0

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>>18435405
Second to last dumdum here. I remember you tossing away a pair of doras, I think it was winds? and going for open tanyao.

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That match was insane

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>>18437552
Forgot image

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>>18437552
>wasn't paying attention to noname in the last round
YARARETA

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>>18437570
Just got in to spec the last hand of that round; what was your game plan with the xia call here when you're seated north, whoever this was?

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I nearly gathered a sick chii toi chin itsu good thing I called and screwed everything.
>>18437597
I misclicked!

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>>18437623
Ah! That happens, then.

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With the nines.

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>>18437570
>>18437580
What did NoName do?

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>>18437633
I got scared by north calling and dealt into his hand.

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>>18437678
chaotic evil newfagging

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>>18437678
How can you see the inside of the walls? Also, how can you tell where the dead wall/dora indicator are?

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>>18437747
Its a replay

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>>18437763
I know but I can't get it like that on the tenhou website and on the picture you posted I can't see where's the dead wall/dora indicators

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>>18437678
>obvious he is going for tan yao
>he has discarded zero man tiles
>discard 4 man

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>>18437747
牌山 - dead wall on/off
手牌 - hands on/off
視 - perspective, you can also turn off names there

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>>18437772
There should be a little arrow in the corner, just click that and tick everything. The dora is the white tile in the middle of the blacker tiles (dead wall).

>>18437776
I was scared by the top guy ok ;_;

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>>18437776
North was that player's toimen with the no yaku.

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>>18437791
>>18437803
Neat

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2:0

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How much should I pay for a Riichi Mahjong set? Recs?

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I draw so many honor tiles and useless terminals it feels like nagashi mangan is the most likely hand sometimes.

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That 1 hp

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This guy >>18438478 again:
I called a local store that specializes in board games and they only had inferior Chinese Mahjong. Guess online is the way to go.

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>>18438478
Yellow Mountain set, if that were to be your first set.

If you want something better, then you have a few other sets to choose from.

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>>18436612
This is a simple answer, and a good reason.

Beyond that.

Points and/or speed. How many points do I need? Or do I just want a fast hand?

On top of that, yaku viability. If open chanta is the best way to go, then so be it.

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>>18433978
How do I get good at joukyuu
I thought I was doing well in ippan and suddenly when I get into joukyuu I lose 4 games in a row.

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>>18441310
Do you ever fold? The first thing I learnt in joukyuu was when to fold.
Post a replay if you want to.

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This is the first time I've seen the pao rule being applied in a game I was playing. This sure was satisfying.
http://tenhou.net/3/?log=2018021923gm-0089-0000-fb5fd406&tw=0&ts=4

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>>18441125
Thanks, I just ordered it.

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>>18441496
where do you live? There's parlors with auto tables on the west coast if you're around

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>>18441681
Colorado. I'm envious, I really wish I could find something like that here. The Japanese population is absolutely minuscule here. I'm lucky enough to have made one Japanese friend here, who I can practice speaking with and whatnot, he said he'd be down to play some time.
He has to go back to Japan in September and I don't know what I'm going to do ;-;

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>>18441748
well if you're ever in the LA or NorCal area ask in this thread and we'll be happy to show you.

you haven't lived until you see those walls magically pop up

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>>18441777
It sounds retarded, but the entire reason I decided to learn mahjong was because I saw a video of one of those. I'll be spending a month traveling around Japan this summer, I'm gonna find a リーチ麻雀 sign and make my dreams come true.

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>>18441748
I don't know where exactly, but someone on Grunty's stream was in Colorado and talking about how his town had an arcade that for some reason had auto Jong tables, so you might want to look into it.

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>>18442034
I did almost exactly the same, around October '15. Go to Shibuya and look up for Shibuton. The place is quite small so you can miss the placard, but enough for I think 8 autotables. Seriously, that visit alone is worth your entire trip.

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>>18442034
Reminder to not be a gaijin who doesn't speak japanese, you'd probably give the staff a heart attack.

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>>18442239
>the destroyer of mahjong parlors

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>>18442048
I'll try digging a bit deeper, thanks for the heads-up
>>18442092
Thanks friend, if I can find the place I'll take a picture and share it here
>>18442239
日本語はまだ下手けど日常会話とかが出来るからせめて迷惑をかけないようにテーブルを願えると思ってる
The English-only friend I'm traveling with is another matter, but I think as long as one of us can speak it should work out

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well I would suggest you look up the local rules for any parlor you plan on visiting. getting a hang of the auto tables in the US parlor might be a good idea since live table play is at about tokujou level and you wouldn't want to be a nervous gaijin fumbling around the walls

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Place your bets. Which NoName will win?

http://tenhou.net/0/?wg=7C781711

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>>18442456
I only started playing last Friday, do you think I could be decent enough by mid-July when I go if I play a couple games a day?

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decent enough to win? sure
decent enough to win consistently? probably not

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>>18442733
I don't even care about winning, I just don't want to be so terrible that I'd be a burden to those I played with.

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>>18442769
What Tenhou dan level are you then?

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>>18442786
He started on Friday, so he's probably still early kyuus.

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>>18442800
In that case. 100 games per month.

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>>18442691
There's not much chance you'll be tokujou standard by then but you still might be able to hold your own if you practice and study enough. Make sure to get used to playing with real tiles; as the other anon said, you don't want to annoy everyone else by spending half the game knocking tiles over and fumbling around. You'll also need to get decent at scoring and be able to at least figure out fu and han values quickly if you want to play in a parlour.