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[Anonymous No.]

Alright.

In PMiSS, in Remilia's profile, it's stated that "Depending on how she changed fate, you might even become a half-human-half-youkai."

So I was thinking, "Hey, that's pretty interesting, so maybe someone could make a doujin about how the Konpaku family ended up with their half-human half-ghost deal."

Of course, that led to the problem of defining if ghosts were youkai.

Looking in PMiSS, Youmu and Yuyuko are in different sections. Youmu is in the "Phantom" section, with Yuyuko in the "Ghost" section. And reading Youmu's profile, it made a good deal of sense. She had the qualities typically associated with phantoms, most notably the low body temperature. However, there was a slight problem with a ton of the stuff in PMiSS (other than Akyu's unreliability) and game translations.

In PMiSS, 亡霊 is used to refer to ghost.

幽霊 is used to refer to phantoms.

They're explicitly described as being two completely different things. This creates a hell of a problem, as a lot of the translations merely used "ghost" in places where "phantom" would be far more appropriate.

[Anonymous No.]

But that still didn't answer the question of "Are ghosts youkai or not?"

So let's go to CoLA.

「私は、妖怪退治をする人間よ。幽霊は妖怪ではないの」
“What I do is youkai extermination, you see. And ghosts are not youkai.”

I'm only using Rikaichan to break up the sentences, unfortunately, so this can easily be ten sorts of unreliable. However, in the sentence, it would appear that Reimu is actually referring to phantoms. Made sense in the context of what was happening with Rinnosuke, the temperature in Kourindou being unnaturally cold.

So actually, it's more accurate to say, "What I do is youkai extermination, you see. And phantoms are not youkai."

[Anonymous No.]

In short, Remilia may have been responsible for the whole half-human-half-phantom thing, but now it's far less plausible than had it explicitly said that phantoms were a type of youkai, or if it said that Remilia could cause people to become half-human-half-phantom. Actually, I think it's sort of stupid than phantoms aren't considered a type of youkai, considering the parallels that are made between them and fairies, which are considered youkai. But now, the idea for the doujin is completely shot, and you would have to "make up" the idea that Remilia can also create half-human-half-phantom beings if you really wanted this doujin to come into existence.

Goddamnit ZUN.

[Anonymous No.]

Stopping the creation of a doujinshi?

All according to ZUN's plan.

[Remilia Scarlet !!0l42/w//XuF No.]

Zun is an alcoholic. Alcoholics don't always make sense. Akyu sometimes doesn't make sense. Therefore Akyu is canon alcoholic.

I know one thing for sure: Akyu has a nice booty.

[Anonymous No.]

In this thread, we are TOUHOU DETECTIVES

[Anonymous No.]

Phantoms a human's Soul which has not received the Yama's Judgment. (Or has, and has been Judged to remain earthbound for whatever reasons.)
Ghosts are youkai borne of a person's memories and emotions. Ghosts can be made of people who's Soul is long since gone to Xanadu, and so forth.

This is why Phantoms are not Youkai; they are simply one half of a Human.

Likewise, there's probably Revenants or some such; living soulless corpses that are not Youkai either. These would be the Bodied Half, which SHOULD go on to be burned in the Furnaces of the Burning Hell, but has remained earthbound for whatever reasons as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1821417
Shame she won't live long enough to properly break it in.

[Remilia Scarlet !!0l42/w//XuF No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>1821421
>Phantoms a human's Soul which has not received the Yama's Judgment.

Are you sure? It's really damn confusing.

>They're often mixed up with ghosts, which are embodiments of deceased people, but phantoms are not necessarily spirits of the deceased.

>Some are even born as phantoms, and remain so until they dissipate into nothing.

>Also, unlike ghosts, one deceased body may spawn several phantoms.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1821429
Awesome, there's not enough of black haired Akyu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1821431

>They're often mixed up with ghosts, which are embodiments of deceased people, but phantoms are not necessarily spirits of the deceased.

Well, they wouldn't be: they would BE the deceased. The one who died is they.

>Some are even born as phantoms, and remain so until they dissipate into nothing.

Your soul fades away if you don't get to a resting place. That is, Heaven, Hell, any higher realm, or back into the Cycle of Reincarnation.

>Also, unlike ghosts, one deceased body may spawn several phantoms.

Now this breaks it.
Okay, WHAT?
That doesn't make sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1821417

Mice are mammals. Mammals are warm blooded. Parrots are warm blooded. Therefore, parrots are mammals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1821444

Japanese use chopsticks.
I use chopsticks.
I am Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1821442
The good thing about Touhou and doujinshi is that you can pick and choose what you like and what doesn't make sense as long as you have some sort of basis in your decision or as long as you present it well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1821421
If you're still here, is that based on the Touhouverse or what?