07th Expansion thread

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07th Expansion thread Anonymous Thu Dec 28 19:52:35 2017 No.18113693 [Reply] [Original]

Thread for Umineko, Higurashi, and other 07th Expansion related discussion.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 19:56:54 2017 No.18113718 File: 112 KB, 545x495, shannon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Shannon will never lean into your ear and whisper lewd things in her husky Beato voice Why even live?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 19:59:43 2017 No.18113733 that beato is quality, dunno about battler.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:07:13 2017 No.18113784 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqEZQxP1azM This is Maria in the future. Yasu did nothing wrong.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:11:05 2017 No.18113807 File: 27 KB, 240x400, %83V%83G%83X%83%5E410.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18113693 Why didn't this edit happen years ago?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:23:28 2017 No.18113896 File: 558 KB, 510x2026, 1293663814976.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone got any umineko humour for a friend who recently finished reading?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:27:06 2017 No.18113922 >>18113807 Nobody ever asked me for it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:40:03 2017 No.18114011 File: 68 KB, 768x864, I-see-you-are-a-man-of-culture-as-well.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18113896 Umineko anime with DameDame! subs

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:40:07 2017 No.18114014 >>18113807 This whoreslut of a bunny is the best character in the entire series.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:42:50 2017 No.18114033 >>18114014 People who call her annoying annoy me

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 21:01:13 2017 No.18114154 File: 309 KB, 850x1213, Shannon tits.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18113718 Shannon's big beautiful breasts will never exist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 21:11:30 2017 No.18114256 >>18114154 >>18113718 Gonna steal Shannon from the fat man and tell them they are both gay!

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 21:14:59 2017 No.18114274
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>>18113896
Shroedinger's stuff is pretty great.

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 22:16:13 2017 No.18114720 [SPOILER]

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>>18113784
>not even a loli
>gross retard-tier autism
I know for a fact that super cute lolis with crippling autism exist. Where are the videos? All you ever see is a bunch of mouthbreathing retards with physical deformities.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 22:27:51 2017 No.18114797 File: 1.70 MB, 1300x4871, 1394377884679.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18114274

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 22:48:22 2017 No.18114917 >>18114797 I tend to forget how much of a literal character "Shannon" is. I don't think Yasu is as over the top as meta-Beatrice, who is yet another fake character playing the part of an evil bully, but her personality must be similar.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 22:51:20 2017 No.18114927 File: 386 KB, 603x2048, mine.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18113896

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 23:48:13 2017 No.18115231 >>18113896 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu14bVETMLw

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:26:16 2017 No.18115362 >>18114720 I'm sorry mate, but you're not going to get a super cute loli autist who makes 8 hour videos on why Rosatrice is canon anywhere but the golden land.

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>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:26:06 2017 No.18115968 Repostan from last thread. Which is the ultimate Umineko version for reading in japanese with ITH? Should I bother with the PS3 sprites/voices or just go with the original one?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:41:24 2017 No.18116029 >>18115968 If you're not using the poor translation then go full PS3 port.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:00:39 2017 No.18116082 >>18116029 Is it actually complete and finished and everything? The torrent on nyaa seems to be just ep1-4. And it says it's english, can you revert that easily?

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:45:34 2017 No.18116437
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Guys two questions:

How are you supposed to guess umineko's culprit? All the episodes have a different one. All you can guess is that Beatrice is not the culprit right? I wouldn't see how you could guess that it's Kyrie and Rudolph before the reveal

and another regarding Higurashi
Can anyone give me a proper reason why Rika didnt send Hanyuu after Takano/Tomitake at the night of the festival just to see who kills them since she assumed that is her killer aswell? I feel this is a huge mistake in higurashi but maybe you guys can give me a reason?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 05:25:14 2017 No.18116521 Does anyone have the OMK backgrounds like in >>18115231? I've spent the last hour or so looking but all links seem to be dead.

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 05:48:27 2017 No.18116577

>>18116437
Figuring out Rokkenjima Prime killers doesn't really matters, what truly matters is figuring out who's the mastermind behind the beginning of every Rokkenjima incident, meaning Beatrice, meaning Yasu, meaning Shannon and Kanon.

I don't know about Higurashi, it's been too long.
Maybe Tomitake and Takano's private time is too lewd of a sight for Hanyuu.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 06:24:50 2017 No.18116746 >>18114274 Can anyone explain the Eva-Batman joke?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 06:27:50 2017 No.18116759 I want to get into higurashi but confused by the chapters and shit. Such as the difference between Kai and Hou, also whatever Sui is. Is there an edition with all chapters and the entire story?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 09:07:19 2017 No.18117325 >>18116759 The entire main story is just Higurashi no Naku Koro ni (question arcs) and Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Kai (answer arcs).

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 10:50:12 2017 No.18117747 >>18117325 Thanks anon. So if I buy all the Higurashi stuff on steam is that the whole story?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 10:55:50 2017 No.18117769 >>18117747 There are still 3 chapters in Kai that aren't out on steam yet, so go download them somewhere else after you are done the ones on Steam.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 10:57:51 2017 No.18117775 File: 713 KB, 800x1027, 5224645_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18114014 What makes her so much better than the rest of the bunnies?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 11:07:35 2017 No.18117826 File: 855 KB, 1014x850, 1491113216554.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18117775 Nihihi.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 11:26:37 2017 No.18117929 >>18116746 Much like the ending of the Dark Knight, Eva puts on a facade of being a dick to preserve someone’s reputation

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 11:35:58 2017 No.18117969

>>18116437
All Episodes can be explained having Yasu as the culprit (even before the manga came with explicity).

EP4 is mirroring EP7 in Battler's perspective,so you could say, it could be the only one without having much of the culprit being Yasu per se (it was more caused by the adults, Rudolph and Kyrie particularly), besides the possibilities being so open to anything at all, including Yasu anyway.

The most difficult one was EP5 I guess, since there's a different whydunnit and detective perspective entirely (which was also one huge narrative trap during the whole thing).

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 11:50:43 2017 No.18118018 >>18117769 The original port is unplayable in my opinion (the mangagamer first release). The steam version sadly works though but the translation is a bit worse than the fixed one of the original release.

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 12:21:11 2017 No.18118152

>>18116437
All the episodes have different accomplices, but the main culprit is the same. You are not supposed to figure out that Kyrie and Rudolf are the killers because real life events are not meant to be solvable. It doesn't even matter.

The point of Umineko is to figure out who the culprit is, what they planned to do and why they did it. We are not looking for the real culprits that ended up killing everyone, because they are opportunistic killers and didn't have any motive beyond being greedy as fuck. Exposing them as the culprits is meaningless.

As for the Hanyu thing... I think she disappears and loses consciousness when she's not around Rika. There seems to be a difference between the Hanyu that Rika can communicate with and the 1000 year old Hanyu that literally followed Ooishi for his entire life.

I don't think it's a plothole that Ryukishi didn't notice or anything like that. There must be an explanation that Ryukishi simply didn't bother thinking of or explaining in detail.

Maybe Hanyu's existence is only possible around Rika. Maybe she can only stalk people infected with the parasite (Hou seems to hint to this). Or maybe the game master makes her pass out when she's about to find clues through supernatural means and she regains consciousness thinking she actually investigated and didn't find anything suspicious. There is also the possibility that she finds Takano scary and refuses to follow her.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 12:24:28 2017 No.18118162 >>18117747 There is a 9th chapter that is basically an epilogue for the story. It's included in Higurashi Rei and will probably be released on Steam SOMEDAY. It's really nice, fleshes out an important character and connects Higurashi with Umineko.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 12:26:04 2017 No.18118169 >>18116759 Get out of here. There are better places to ask about this without fear of spoilers. I for one won't bother with spoiler tags in this thread. Half the posters are openly discussing spoilery shit right now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 12:28:00 2017 No.18118179 >>18117775 Does anyone even like 00? Worst character in the series.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 12:32:06 2017 No.18118196 >>18118162 What Higu chapter is that?

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 12:37:07 2017 No.18118223

>>18118196
It's Saikoroshi. It was fan translated long ago. The translation is pretty decent. Nowhere near as awkward as the machine translated chapters in Hou.

>>18118018
What do you mean by unplayable? The translation for the Kai chapters was pretty decent (ignoring very occasional awkward lines). The music and sound effects can be restored with patches.

The original translation was only borderline shit in the first four arcs. They really improved after that.

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 12:45:26 2017 No.18118270

>>18118018
I don't think you read the updated Steam translation at all, anon.

Besides some minor typos here and there (and some uncalled F-bombs from Lambda), both Question and Answer arcs were phenomenally well translated and way better than the old translations overall (except for a meme or two that got lost, like the duct tape thing with Erika, since it wasn't quite the right translation).

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 12:48:17 2017 No.18118284 Umineko full on steam is 45 dollars but higurashi is only like 15, what gives? Even if you count that higurashi isn't entirely released it'll only wind up at like 20-25

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 12:49:55 2017 No.18118297
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>>18118162
I'd argue that Saikoroshi-hen is part of the main story. I consider it mandatory and it's a shame that so many people on Youtube ignore it because they can't patch it to look like generic anime garbage.

It's a good chapter with very interesting themes, but the beginning can be really off putting because Rika apparently dies and loses the peaceful world she worked so hard to earn. It's way too cruel and can make you feel like Ryukishi ruined the happy ending just to artificially extend the story. And "Mion" turns out to be an asshole in this world, which makes the reader feel like the real Mion is not an inherently good person and is only like that because of her upbringing. Most players never realize that the Mion in this world is actually Shion because they never got permanently switched as kids.

If you can put up with that and trust the author not to make stupid decisions, everything is cleared up at the end and you end up loving the chapter. For me, it's the real ending of Higurashi. A must read.

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 12:59:00 2017 No.18118355

>>18118270
He is talking about Higurashi.

The steam version has a subpar translation, the Satoko sprite is censored and the chapters are released chock full of bugs, crashes and typos that they take months to fix. It's OK, but it could be MUCH better.

The Umineko translation is better because it's based on the old one. I miss some of the memes, though. And their engine is kind of shitty. It can't even display rain, so all you get is static rain edited onto the background.

The old translation may have some inaccuracies when it comes to solving the epitaph, but that's it. Nobody tries to solve it anyway and most English speakers do it without the "capital" hint because it means nothing to them. The overall experience is slightly better in every way and you get the original music intact (System0 got censored in the steam version). The steam version is still great, but I think the old version with the old engine and the old translation is the best way to experience Umineko.

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Anonymous Fri Dec 29 13:04:43 2017 No.18118395

>>18118284
Complete Umineko 1-8 on Steam is like 51 euro in here at least (no promotional prices, since New Year's sales is cheating, especially for old releases).
And that's some 160+ hours of pure text.

Higurashi 1-5 (missing 3 chapters for a full release of the original content) is 36 euro, with each new chapter costing around 8 euro or less (except the forth which is pretty small, and the first one since promotion, both 6 euro each)

Considering the last two chapters are rather big, they will probably cost 10. In the end, Higurashi covering up to the 8th original release will be more expensive than Umineko.
And that's around 110+ hours of pure text (less than Umineko).

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 14:51:08 2017 No.18118875 So what actually happened in the end, was it Yasus dying delusions or did he actually meet Battler and later jumped off the boat?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 15:08:29 2017 No.18118964 File: 613 KB, 1000x1445, img000032.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18118875 It really happened

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 15:21:19 2017 No.18119045 >>18118964 Beato ;_;

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 15:26:08 2017 No.18119070 File: 3.20 MB, 1920x2944, exs.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I want to see this scene animated.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 15:31:27 2017 No.18119085 >>18119070 Give me about 20 years.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 15:35:51 2017 No.18119099 File: 296 KB, 1024x640, 1459769600129.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18119070 by studio DEEN?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 15:39:30 2017 No.18119116 File: 66 KB, 600x750, 8236022_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18119070 I want to see the Ep 6 wedding crashing scene animated

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 15:45:40 2017 No.18119137 File: 261 KB, 546x926, n046.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18119045 a cute

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 15:46:42 2017 No.18119144 File: 96 KB, 500x375, Ufotable Umineko.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18119099 By ufotable.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 15:48:09 2017 No.18119149 >>18119099 THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 15:52:06 2017 No.18119180
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Probably should've posted here instead of starting a new thread for it.

English translation of Kageboushi-hen was released the other day. This is the answer arc for Someutsushi.

https://github.com/07th-mod/higurashi-console-arcs

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 15:57:08 2017 No.18119204 File: 17 KB, 293x131, beato.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18119137

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 15:59:16 2017 No.18119213 File: 111 KB, 850x850, seagull.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18119137 That she is.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 16:36:31 2017 No.18119418 File: 832 KB, 640x960, 1351826008384.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] IT WAS ME

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 16:51:00 2017 No.18119511 >>18118964 >Battler and some author wrote a big forgery to indict Eva >she didn't do it >The forgery ruined Ange's life too Goddamn it Battler even as an amnesia riddled author you're incompetent

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 17:21:24 2017 No.18119697 File: 3.68 MB, 854x7228, Bern's tanabata 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18119511 >The forgery ruined Ange's life too Nah, that was Bern's fault.

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>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 17:23:18 2017 No.18119710 >>18118297 Does this mean Shion is naturally an asshole even without the brain parasite?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 17:51:10 2017 No.18119921 >>18119710 Search your feelings

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 18:01:49 2017 No.18119988 Can someone tl;Dr the end and who was the culprit, finished the series years ago and still don't have a clue what happened

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 18:07:37 2017 No.18120032 >>18119988 Rosa killed them all. The end.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 18:12:58 2017 No.18120069 >>18119988 small bombs

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 18:14:14 2017 No.18120076 File: 76 KB, 1240x336, ITWASME.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18119988

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 18:21:57 2017 No.18120137

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little witch? I値l have you know I graduated top of my class in the Detective academy,
and I致e been involved in numerous secret attacks on Rokkenjima, and I have over 300 confirmed solved mysteries. I am trained in chopstick warfare
and I知 the top detective in the entire Japanese country. You are nothing to me but just another witch. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the
likes of which has never been seen before on this meta-world, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the
Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of cats across the JP and your scent is being traced right now so you
better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You池e fucking dead, kid.
I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can deny you in over seven hundred ways, and that痴 just with my tape seal.
Not only am I extensively trained in deductive combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Bernkastel Neko Corps
and I will use it to its full extent to deny your miserable ass off the face of the planet, you little shit.
If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little 田lever・comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your
fucking tongue. But you couldn稚, you didn稚, and now you池e paying the gold, you goddamn goat. I will shit blue text all over you and you will drown in it.
You池e fucking dead, beato.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 18:43:31 2017 No.18120274 >>18119988 Shannon/Kanon was the culprit of the game boards, Kyrie and Rudolf were the culprits in the real world.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 19:00:41 2017 No.18120372 >>18120274 His parents? How? that makes no sense they had no motive

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 19:03:19 2017 No.18120392 >>18120372 >>18114797

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 19:07:32 2017 No.18120409 File: 214 KB, 945x936, Eva vs Kyrie.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18120372 Did you read Ep. 7 tea party? That's pretty much the truth.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 19:11:12 2017 No.18120427 File: 1.06 MB, 1440x2048, img000032.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18120372 Money is one hell of a drug

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 19:13:19 2017 No.18120438 >>18120409 So that was the truth, ep 8 made me confused , then again I was so sure it was a lie

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 19:16:14 2017 No.18120449 File: 23 KB, 500x259, 1471000699814.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18120427 All of this could have been avoided if the siblings werent so shit

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 19:39:46 2017 No.18120587 >>18120449 Could've been avoided if kinzo wasn't such a bad parent

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 19:48:14 2017 No.18120635 >>18120587 Could've been avoided if Hitler never rose to power.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 19:51:59 2017 No.18120654 >>18120635 Could have been avoided if Battler touched Shannon's boobs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 19:54:26 2017 No.18120672 >>18120654 Could have been avoided if Jooji ever tried to touch his girlfriend once in the span of two years.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 20:02:09 2017 No.18120722 >>18120654 Nah that would just make him think that Shannon is a flat chested girl

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 20:13:22 2017 No.18120770

>>18120722
It would give him a greater chance of solving the mystery. He is so obsessed with tits that the idea of Shannon being able to disguise as Kanon doesn't even cross his mind. He'd rather let the culprit get away with it than doubt the existence of Shannon's breasts.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 20:27:45 2017 No.18120829 File: 224 KB, 850x1213, Shannon tits 2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18120770 I mean, I can see where he's coming from. Who would want to doubt these wonderful tits?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 20:30:22 2017 No.18120843 >>18120829 Tfw Battler groping Shannon's boobs would have unironically saved the day. Batler's sin is not molesting Shannon

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 20:34:32 2017 No.18120867
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>>18120843
Does that also make George a sinner? Or was it Battler's responsibility as the resident breast sommelier to inspect the busty maid's chest?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 20:39:09 2017 No.18120889 >>18120843 >>18120867 Jessica is the one at fault, Battler would have touched them if she didn't stop him.

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Anonymous Fri Dec 29 21:04:43 2017 No.18121032

>>18120829
Jessica is a pathetic, desperate, horny slut. Literally taking advantage of her position as Shannon and Kanon's boss so she can get some lowly servant dick.

She's almost worse than people that have sex with animals. Does Jessica even realize how much she's degrading herself? A fucking SERVANT shouldn't have access to the pussy of the HEIR to the family. It's simply disgraceful.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 21:09:39 2017 No.18121053 >>18119180 >this cutie will never get a Ryukishi sprite >her episode isn't in Hou Why live?

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 21:34:25 2017 No.18121206

>EP2
>Jessica barges into the VIP room
>Beatrice is missing
>there is a letter mocking her for being a stupid tomboy
>"AAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGHHHHH!!! I'LL FIND YOU AND KILL YOU!! THIS ISN'T THE WORK OF A WITCH!!! THE MURDERER IS A DIRTY, SWEATY, STINKY HUMAN!! UUUUUUOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!"
>Jessica is a human too
L-Lewd!

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 21:35:18 2017 No.18121211 I know I'm super late but I just finished watching all the installments of Higurashi. I'm interested in playing Umineko, should I get the steam version or is there another way to play it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 21:38:07 2017 No.18121235 >>18121211 I still have the original with the witch hunt translations, I don't know how the updated things are

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 21:56:46 2017 No.18121335 >>18121211 The optimal way is umineko project for ep1-4, umitweak for 4-8

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 21:57:48 2017 No.18121339 >>18121335 >umitweak for 4-8 umitweak for 5-8*

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 21:57:53 2017 No.18121341 >>18121211 Get the original Japanese game and use the Witch Hunt translation patch. That's it. Don't bother with anything else, it just cheapens the experience. Also, get out of here before you get spoiled.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 21:58:56 2017 No.18121344 >>18121335 >umineko project The translation is garbage compared to the old one.

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 22:00:32 2017 No.18121351

>>18121211
The Steam version is fine if you don't know how to install Japanese games or don't want to bother.

Use the original sprites and you won't regret it. I promise you that you'll come here after reading all of Umineko and be really glad that you read it with the original sprites.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 22:27:14 2017 No.18121476 I wonder what would happen to Maria in the Higanbana universe. She's a delicious target for bullies and too autistic to fight back.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 22:35:01 2017 No.18121502 >>18121476 UUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUU uuuuuuuuuu ;-;

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 22:37:04 2017 No.18121511 >>18121476 Rape

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 22:46:26 2017 No.18121542 >>18121476 Think back on those early days when you were also a delicious target for bullies and too autistic to fight back and you'll find out.

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 22:55:05 2017 No.18121580

This is sort of a rare thread, right?

Loved umineko, higurashi doesn't appeal to me. Batshit universes with doomed romance are my jam. Last i heard the new project was some rose thorn days or something, which also didn't look anything like umineko.

What should I play from 07th expansion, or is there another vn I should read if I specifically enjoyed umineko?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 22:56:02 2017 No.18121588 >>18121542 My issue wasn’t the bullies who beat me up, my issue was the bullies who also always wanted to hang out with me This would be great if they were tsundere grills but I went to an all boys s school;_;

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 22:58:19 2017 No.18121594 >>18121580 >with doomed romance Read House in Fata Morgana Door 2 is kind of shit but after that it only keeps getting better

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 23:00:41 2017 No.18121611 >>18121588 Are you trying to make me feel pity or something? Please don't blog on these threads again.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 23:02:26 2017 No.18121617 >>18121594 I'll check it out. arigatou.

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 23:06:27 2017 No.18121639 [DELETED]

>>18121611
I don’t particularly care what you think, mate. Higanbana really touches home on the subject of bullying - inevitably when discussing it one will share anecdotes about similar experiences.

Although with Maria I’d see her getting the writing on the desk treatment

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 23:11:02 2017 No.18121663 >>18121639 Except that blogging is against the rules you sad mongoloid, this is why I told you to not do it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 23:25:05 2017 No.18121738 >>18121502 But that’s the same as her character in Umineko

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 23:30:32 2017 No.18121753 >>18113784 I wonder what Rosa would do to Maria if her behavior got them kicked out of a plane.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 01:04:58 2017 No.18122314 File: 469 KB, 1000x1107, 555.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who would you pair with Shannon in a universe where the murders don't take place?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 04:05:29 2017 No.18122773 >>18122314 Jessica. Jooji can go fuck himself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 04:09:38 2017 No.18122783 >>18122314 Battler, of course. They have the most in common and have the best chemistry together.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 05:28:17 2017 No.18122942 File: 486 KB, 1000x1464, 87999.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18122783 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 06:52:30 2017 No.18123167 >>18122314 A psychiatrist

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 07:17:29 2017 No.18123219

I want to get into higurashi as ive heard amazing things about it, but i'm not sure the best way to do that. I saw on steam 5/8 main arcs exist, but is there a way to play all 8 or even the 20 (i think) others if you don't speak anything other than english? also should I buy it on steam or get it off of mangagamers website?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 07:42:53 2017 No.18123305 >>18123219 You can just pirate 6-8 and patch it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 08:02:55 2017 No.18123391 >>18123219 Buy from from whoever you like (Steam has achievements, but you get steam codes from MangaGamer anyway iirc). As long as you buy, you are already supporting a very nice VN creator with his stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 08:04:03 2017 No.18123401 Anybody went to the Comiket today? Any news about 07th Expansion stuff?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 08:07:43 2017 No.18123413 Umineko is the Dark Tower of Visual Novels

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 08:12:41 2017 No.18123427 >>18123413 Dark Tower has 3 meta layers less than the Seacats though. Umineko is quite impressive in that front. Still my favorite dark fantasy book series, nice to see it getting mentioned.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 09:17:07 2017 No.18123688 >>18123413 Is Dark Tower actually any good? I know people talk about the series but I never actually hear people talk about the quality.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 09:18:08 2017 No.18123691 >>18123401 I am interested if there are any good cosplay.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 10:01:46 2017 No.18123833 >>18123688 It's Stephen King's magnum opus, declared even by himself. The whole thing is like 4000 pages long and it's a top notch metafictional work linking all of his books, it's an absolute masterpiece, in my honest opinion.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 10:45:11 2017 No.18123980 >>18123427 >3 meta layers less Yeah I'd argue that too much meta serves to dilute a story's strengths. In fact I'm not even convinced I like Umineko for it's Metaness. The meta elements are very much hit or mess.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 12:01:22 2017 No.18124289 File: 65 KB, 632x356, Trollatrice.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18123688 Yeah it's really good

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 14:16:58 2017 No.18124957 File: 26 KB, 225x350, Autism.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Someone had to edit this hat on Mary before me tbqh.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 14:18:19 2017 No.18124964 File: 26 KB, 225x350, Autism.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Someone had to edit this hat on Maria before me tbqh

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 14:44:58 2017 No.18125067 File: 2.16 MB, 1280x1804, 1513991501186.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why isn't there a Higurashi version for the pc that includes this great OP? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyYMHRga2bc

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 14:57:57 2017 No.18125119 >>18125067 I mean with all the PS graphics patcjes there are would it be too hard to implement the Openings aswell?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 15:06:41 2017 No.18125168 >>18121032 >Dick The whole story literally revolves around Kanon's lack of dick.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 15:09:55 2017 No.18125200 >>18125067 that poor cicada, pls no bully ;-;

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 15:11:41 2017 No.18125209 >>18125168 Sexual frustration causes tranny maid to detonate giant bomb. Magic ensues.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 17:22:03 2017 No.18125962 File: 302 KB, 640x480, 1351826232944.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18125209

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 18:42:50 2017 No.18126386 File: 7 KB, 259x194, cuckcha.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18119070 >>18119099 maybe if we ask /ourguy/ netflix they pick umineko and make chiru anime.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 18:47:24 2017 No.18126418 File: 480 KB, 496x708, pullthetriggerfam.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >no news about umineko or when they cry 6 on comiket how much we need to wake to ryukishi coming to this earth again?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 18:49:27 2017 No.18126434 File: 40 KB, 640x628, 1462731418930.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] so was yasu a dude or what

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 18:50:46 2017 No.18126443 >>18126386 That will force people to watch the DEEEEN version, and that is never a good thing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 18:54:37 2017 No.18126474 File: 497 KB, 664x1112, Rio_a11_def1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18126434 Does this matter?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 19:02:04 2017 No.18126521 >>18126474 THIS IS OUR CHILD LION NO WE DON'T KNOW IF HE HAS A BENIS OR BAGINA WE DO KNOW SHE LIKES SLAPPING JESSICA'S ASS THO

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 19:12:13 2017 No.18126569 >>18126418 BELIEVE, anon, believe! He is not going to abandon us in the time of need!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 19:13:13 2017 No.18126576 >>18126569 ahaha.wav

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 19:29:07 2017 No.18126687 >>18126434 >no period, no breasts or feminine features dumb frogposter

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 19:30:39 2017 No.18126703 >>18126687 There's lots of women in this world without those things

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 19:36:26 2017 No.18126745 >>18126703 name one

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 19:37:57 2017 No.18126758 >>18126745 I don't know any women

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 19:58:35 2017 No.18126857 File: 67 KB, 571x592, lol.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18126758

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 20:17:37 2017 No.18126971

>>18126703
Even really young prepubescent lolis have a feminine shape and facial structure that makes them look slightly different from boys. Yasu doesn't even have that. But he doesn't have masculine features either, so it's not gay to like her.

I know how you feel, though. Lion's absolutely perfect design should have been used for a different character, not for a faggy androgynous dude that likes to pinch his sister's ass.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 20:23:46 2017 No.18127023 >>18126971 Lion should have been the detective and Erika should've been Kinzo's kiddo

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 20:38:04 2017 No.18127103 >>18126971 If you want a female Lion, there is Saber.

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 20:43:45 2017 No.18127128

There is this weird track in EP7 titled "s/he-end" and the voice singing sounds like a fucking castrato. You know, those guys that get their balls cut off as kids so they can keep their child voices unchanged and end up sounding weird as fuck as adults.

Holy shit the foreshadowing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 20:56:03 2017 No.18127203 >>18127128 So you're saying not only did Natsuhi break Yasu's dick, she also smashed his balls?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 20:56:41 2017 No.18127206 >>18127128 Castrati don't exist anymore. The practice was outlawed around 1870. It's sickening what humans can do to each other for the sake of "art".

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 20:59:08 2017 No.18127214 File: 1.24 MB, 1024x1725, intellectual fapist.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18127023 !

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 21:00:28 2017 No.18127220 >>18127128 How the fuck does Ryukishi come up with this stuff?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 21:03:05 2017 No.18127237 >>18126971 How do you know so much about lolis and the subtle details of their naked figure?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 21:23:26 2017 No.18127375 File: 28 KB, 418x396, lmao.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18126971 >so it's not gay to like her >not gay >her

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 21:51:51 2017 No.18127547 >>18124964 LMAO Where is that picture from? The original I mean.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 21:59:22 2017 No.18127587 Why does pressing esc act like altf4 with omk Who designed this piece of shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 22:00:44 2017 No.18127592 >>18119180 Are Rei and the rest of extra arcs worth doing? I feel like Ep 8 tied up everything pretty nicely

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 22:23:57 2017 No.18127694

>>18127592
Episode 8 was the ending of the story, but Saikoroshi (one of the arcs in Rei) is basically the epilogue. It develops Rika's character and her relationship with her parents and friends. It's a very satisfying ending that connects the story to Umineko. You should definitely read it.

The other two Rei arcs are pure comedy and the translation is pretty bad. I wish I knew how to edit the text to make it less awkward.

The Hou exclusive arcs are pretty weird and I really like them. Some of them happen in random worlds outside Rika's story.

All the stuff I mentioned is good and written by Ryukishi.

The console arcs are written by different people and not canon. There are a lot of them and I never bothered with them. I don't think they are even translated.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 22:27:18 2017 No.18127713 >>18126687 Yasu does have feminine features though, likely due to hormonal imbalance from losing their genitals as a baby. That's why Kanon is such a bishonen.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 00:17:33 2017 No.18128182 What did Erika realize about truth?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 00:23:01 2017 No.18128206 >>18128182 That it is meaningless, yet absolute.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 00:27:17 2017 No.18128229 I'll just take this moment to say I love Yasu.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 00:45:08 2017 No.18128335 >>18128206 What does that mean?

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 00:58:47 2017 No.18128411

>>18128335
That the truth is the truth, nothing more, nothing less. There's no real meaning to it on its own. It's just pure unbiased facts with no embellishments.

Ange's journey throughout the final Episode was all about trying to find some deeper meaning in the truth.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 02:14:15 2017 No.18128710 File: 37 KB, 200x200, 1351822785650.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18128411

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 02:49:40 2017 No.18128844
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I'm not gay at all, but I can't deny that manga Lion is handsome as fuck. I wish I looked like that.

The artist somehow made this weird effeminate incest kid look like a 10/10 prince. HOW?

I liked Ryukishi's original design, though. He somehow fucked up his eyes and made him look like... well, like his father was his grandfather. That was very fitting.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 03:22:12 2017 No.18128972 Maria is so cute that I wouldn't mind kissing her butt. And I can't imagine any character in the story refusing to do it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 03:31:37 2017 No.18129006 >>18128972 >Erika >kissing someone else's ass That girl is 100% pride.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 03:41:58 2017 No.18129036 >>18129006 I'm sure she would kiss the ass of her master

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 04:17:29 2017 No.18129154 So, who else thinks Will and Lion are totally having amazing buttsex?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 04:22:41 2017 No.18129167 >>18129154 Butt who's on top?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 04:26:04 2017 No.18129172 >>18129167 Will, clearly. Haven't you read Umineko? He's the dominant one.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 05:51:57 2017 No.18129517 >>18127128 Holy crap, I've never noticed that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 06:00:23 2017 No.18129584 >>18126576 He's not that kind of witch.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 06:57:26 2017 No.18129911 >>18127547 Umineko anime.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 07:13:30 2017 No.18130032 >>18129911 But they never made one.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 10:17:21 2017 No.18131645 File: 224 KB, 1033x581, ri.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 10:29:24 2017 No.18131799 >>18126418 >when they cry 6 Isn't it WTC5?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 10:32:18 2017 No.18131832 File: 74 KB, 800x450, f139c569a6c0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18131645 It would work better with just the background deep dreamed

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 10:59:01 2017 No.18132132 File: 118 KB, 500x277, sin.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18131799 I'm lost now

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 11:49:22 2017 No.18132536 File: 487 KB, 800x450, nogood082.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why the fuck does this translation even exist?

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 11:52:55 2017 No.18132570
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>>18132536
I generally appreciate the PS3 port for the features, and I can accept the translation for the most part, but this change is an absolute crime against the series.
Worse was when a friend was reading it, and insisted to me that that was a better translation for that phrase because 'it was more accurate'

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 11:58:40 2017 No.18132603 >>18132536 >Rokkenjimagate >The golden witch Beatrice saying "fucking" and "motherfucking" twice in the same sentence

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 12:01:32 2017 No.18132621 >>18132536 Literally worse than that time when someone uploaded a troll version of Higanbana with recycled Umineko music and everyone and their grandma read the entire thing like that, complaining that Ryukishi was a cheap bastard.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 12:20:34 2017 No.18132734 >>18132621 What if R07 was the one who uploaded it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 12:22:29 2017 No.18132742 DAMEDA ZENZEN DAMEDA

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 12:23:24 2017 No.18132751 >>18121580 Higanbana no Saku Yoru ni is very good and more in the vein of Higurashi/Umineko.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 12:24:44 2017 No.18132762 >>18132536 >>18132570 The translation is bad, but the worst part is how in that version the credits roll BEFORE ange jumps with the vocal song playing and AFTER them Ange jumps in complete silence

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 12:26:11 2017 No.18132774 >>18123833 I'm somewhat interested, although I feel like Stephen King can get a bit indulgent sometimes. I read Lisey's Story for a book club, and thought, "Does this really need to be over 600 pages?"

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 12:27:04 2017 No.18132785 >>18113693 This surprisingly fits well

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 12:33:32 2017 No.18132830 >>18132742 AAA, DAME DA, ONIICHAN ZENZEN DAME DA NE

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 12:37:27 2017 No.18132864 File: 1.99 MB, 1920x1080, Screenshot (223).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >no text there are text when I switch to Jp, is this normal?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 13:35:56 2017 No.18133188 >>18132864 No. Stop modding the shit out of it and just play with the original graphics.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 13:39:33 2017 No.18133220 File: 143 KB, 1280x720, Furudo.Erika.full.938372.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18133188 I disagree with this faggot. Do everything you can to get the voices.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 14:06:21 2017 No.18133430 >>18133220 The voices slow down fast paced scenes, ruin the immersion when you accidentally skip to the next line and make Battler sound like he's suffering from diarrhea at the end of EP5.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 14:31:34 2017 No.18133606 >>18133188 Let them enjoy the game the way they want.

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 14:43:37 2017 No.18133685

How does Crazyfox manage to misinterpret everything like that? The game says in red that "including Erika there are 17 people" and he goes "17 people! That means that multiple personalities are not involved! There are 17 real humans on the island! Nobody is pretending to be someone else!". I mean, what the fuck?

Does he not realize that he barely skims the text without even thinking and skips it without even reading it 70% of the time? I don't know how he can be so invested in the story when he literally skipped half the text of the entire novel.

Is that legit autism or something? All the sperglords I've met are perfectionists and completely the opposite of that guy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 14:48:28 2017 No.18133721 >>18133685 The description of his youtube channel said he had autism a couple years ago

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 15:34:51 2017 No.18133988 Wich higurashi version is the best one?The original one, the ps2 version or maybe the original one but with voices?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 15:40:38 2017 No.18134015 >>18133988 Original without voices. If you want voices, you can watch the anime afterwards. It's not THAT bad if you already know all the details from the novel.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 18:20:40 2017 No.18134950 >>18132536 >Japanese people in the 80s shouting FUCK FUCKING MOTHERFUCKER at the drop of a hat Whose great idea was this "updated" translation?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 18:54:13 2017 No.18135151 Most, if not all of the Ushiromiyas would still be alive if even just one of them had seen a fucking therapist.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 18:56:28 2017 No.18135169 George wanted to marry a man. Battler kissed a man. Think about it.

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:19:17 2017 No.18135569
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>>18116746
Because she's the hero Rokkenjima deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt her. Because she can take it. Because she's not our hero. She's a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A Black Witch.

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:20:19 2017 No.18135575

>>18114011
So, let me get this straight.

Rosa and George worked together to kill everyone.
Rosa felt guilty for killing Beatrice 2.0 and decided to fulfil the literal aspect of the epitaph to revive her. She took on Shannon's love for Battler because who knows.
George wants to kill everyone so that he can run away with Shannon.
Rosa kills everyone in closed room but if she's killed, George starts killing and doesn't care about closed rooms, see ep 3 and ep 5.

Ep 1 is just Rosa faking her death while Nanjo sits in front of her so no one notices she's not dead. Then she kills everyone else after pretending to be dead.
Ep 2 is obvious that Rosa is in charge of everything though Shkannon theory says that Rosa was meant to be in charge.
Ep 3 has Eva find the gold and Rosa gives up killing people, as per the agreement. George doesn't like that and kills Rosa and Maria then everyone else. Georges gets shot by Nanjo but doesn't die. George later finds Nanjo, kills them then dies later. Eva finds out that her son killed everyone and keeps everything a secret.
Ep 4 is just Rosa kidnapping everyone and then killing them after the family demand to see Kinzo.
Ep 5 has Battler solve the epitaph immediately, so Rosa doesn't kill anyone. George still wants to go with the plan so he kills Rosa and fakes his death. Then kills everyone and is able to put the envelope because he's dead.

The annoying part is that people argue that Rosatrice has no love for the author but it's the other way around. With Shkanon, the answer for ep 1 is 'the narrator lied' whereas Rosatrice has a direct solvable answer.

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:23:20 2017 No.18135597

>>18113718
Honestly I wish R07 addressed how the hell Shannon can make 3 different voices (4 if you include the man from 19 years ago)

It's one of the issues I have with Umineko, a lot of stuff sounds stupid as shit until he actually addressed it properly.

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:24:25 2017 No.18135605
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>>18135169
Yasu identifies as a girl.

>>18132536
>Playing with the dialog boxes
Disgusting

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:26:17 2017 No.18135619 >>18135605 But he isn't a girl

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:26:34 2017 No.18135622

>>18134950
To be fair in the 80 they also didn't have Halloween or CCS...

>>18129172
>Will, clearly. Haven't you read Umineko? He's the dominant one.
He isn't. According to R07 he barely even does his laundry and his library his a mess. Lion cleans stuff for him because he's too lazy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:27:36 2017 No.18135624 >>18135619 In the Golden Land they are all girls, and Yasu's body is made of Lambdadela's candy magic.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:28:23 2017 No.18135628 >>18135169 The Golden Land. There's nothing to think about.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:29:29 2017 No.18135638 >>18135624 >>18135628 The stuff I mentioned happened outside the golden land. Yasu is a man.

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:32:25 2017 No.18135655
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>>18135638
Yasu isn't either, the whole point of furniture is that Yasu can't fulfill any sexual role. That's why Yasu kept his hidden until the manga (And even the manga doesn't put it in plain text), because in a sense, it doesn't matter.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:33:18 2017 No.18135663 >>18135622 CCS?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:33:39 2017 No.18135666 >>18135655 Yasu is still a man though

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:33:42 2017 No.18135667 >>18121580 Fata Morgana as >>18121594 is a good rec, it's very similar in tones. Watch out for spoilers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:35:59 2017 No.18135685 File: 977 KB, 1440x2048, 013.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18135663 Card Captor Sakura. >>18128844 Ep 7's artist is better.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:36:30 2017 No.18135692 >>18133988 PS2 version. Don't let the nostalgiafags tell you otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:38:37 2017 No.18135709 >>18135655 Ignore him. He's just going out of his way to bluntly dismiss the whole identity issue in order to make things gay.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:38:56 2017 No.18135714 File: 166 KB, 561x1105, Blank+_2966ed07803bcdac18e683690e5b798b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18113896 >>18114927

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:40:00 2017 No.18135718 File: 64 KB, 529x668, __ushiromiya_lion_umineko_no_naku_koro_ni_drawn_by_mizuno_eita__bb9ce54d14a956e0f4cbd6dd55398214.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18135709 This is the only gay in Umineko I will accept.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:41:10 2017 No.18135724 File: 303 KB, 1400x569, 98b531401278e4a640e907e1e6a60e210e77f97e289e35e2e29d8fa328a5fdd8.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18135714

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:41:33 2017 No.18135729 File: 836 KB, 1000x1476, 034 (4).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18135685 7 was good, but I liked 8's art the most.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:42:15 2017 No.18135734 File: 132 KB, 549x862, It+just+so+happens+that+i+have+a+folder+of+_1b1a118a93c3c14221cd424200c6e1ae.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18135724

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:43:03 2017 No.18135737 >>18135724 It's funny because it's so blatantly wrong. George is canonically a beta male who even admits to being jealous of Battler's fun and outgoing personality.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:43:18 2017 No.18135740 >>18135729 Ep 8 is way more dynamic and has fantastic panels, I agree.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:43:41 2017 No.18135743 File: 955 KB, 960x2667, Damedame see therapist.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18113896

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:44:29 2017 No.18135746 File: 274 KB, 900x1314, 21_29.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18135740 Ops, forgot pic.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:46:25 2017 No.18135758 File: 896 KB, 1381x2067, 1475726176268.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18135737 That's the point.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:46:39 2017 No.18135761 File: 440 KB, 598x564, 1493654648649.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18135709 So if Yasu fantasized about being an attack helicopter that would make him one?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:48:27 2017 No.18135772 >>18135709 This.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 21:03:13 2017 No.18135849 >>18135743 This is sad somehow

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 21:15:27 2017 No.18135917 >>18135849 See therapist

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 21:21:51 2017 No.18135947 >>18135917 Never

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 21:27:42 2017 No.18135973 >>18135947 now

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 21:29:44 2017 No.18135986 File: 1.23 MB, 1000x1332, gfsdgsdfgfd.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18129154 I wonder why Japan was pretty split about Lion's sex. I think the west figured it pretty quickly in comparison.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 21:33:58 2017 No.18136006 File: 805 KB, 250x272, 1513644532315.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >2,578,917 - 1 = 2,578,916 >1 2 5 6 7 8 9 >Missing numbers are 3 and 4

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 21:35:24 2017 No.18136013 >>18136006 Holy shit

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 21:39:09 2017 No.18136031 >>18136006 AWWW SHITTT NIGGA 2018 year of satan our lord and savior

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 21:42:37 2017 No.18136057 >>18136006 I don't get it

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 21:53:43 2017 No.18136129

>>18135638
We are all girls in the womb until chemical reactions decide if we grow a dick or keep a vagina. Yasu simply grew a dick and lost his junk shortly after being born. So Yasu is not a man, s/he's genderless and never developed any traits of either gender.

Chromosomes don't really mean much. Hormones are the ones that decide if you are a dude or a lady.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 21:56:30 2017 No.18136143 >>18136129 Yasu is a man and a dude, anon. Chopping your dick doesn't make a woman or genderless. Yasu was born a man and died a man. That's all there is to it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 22:01:18 2017 No.18136172 >>18136057 "Lambdadelta" represents thirty-four when using Greek numerals.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 23:13:30 2017 No.18136559 >>18132621 Kek this can't be real

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 23:17:20 2017 No.18136579 >>18135575 It's really a shame that the manga was considered as canon. Rosatrice was the only valid answer. It makes more sensez

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 23:21:42 2017 No.18136598 >>18135758 >all the legitimate non-knowing posters telling him to give up >end up proving that Yasu was fucking autistic and killed several people for shits and giggles

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 23:26:31 2017 No.18136617 >>18136579 >It's really a shame that the manga was considered as canon. Rosatrice was the only valid answer. It makes more sensez Even without the manga Rosatrice never made any sense and was never a viable theory in the novel.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 00:35:33 2018 No.18136997 FMK: Bern, Lambda, Erika

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 01:38:53 2018 No.18137276 >>18126971 >>18127375 >>18136997 Is it just not possible for Yasu to have been a girl?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 01:42:22 2018 No.18137290 >>18137276 I wish, but that makes no fucking sense.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 01:59:14 2018 No.18137372 >>18136997 Fuck Erika Marry Lambda Kill Bern

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 02:19:36 2018 No.18137463 >>18137290 Why not, you can destroy a vagina.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 02:21:49 2018 No.18137473 >>18136997 This doesn't make any sense, you meant FMK: Bern, Lambda or Beato. Alternatively FMK: Will, Battler and Erika for he detectives.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 02:26:25 2018 No.18137490 >>18136997 Marry Bern Fuck Erika Kill Lambda

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 02:34:15 2018 No.18137516 >>18137463 Yeah, but while a male can be led to believe he's a female after losing his penis as a baby, a girl would realize pretty early on that they're not what they think.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 02:37:49 2018 No.18137532 File: 219 KB, 431x1600, boyorgirlWHOKNOWS.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18137516 Would destroying a vagina even stop Yasu from menstruating of her breasts from developing?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 02:41:23 2018 No.18137547 >>18137532 I don't think so. Males hormone balance gets thrown off without testicles, but I don't know if the same applies to women too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 02:46:09 2018 No.18137558 >>18136006 Where'd these numbers come from?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 02:46:39 2018 No.18137561 >>18137558 It's Lion's chance at life.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 02:49:26 2018 No.18137572 How are Lion and Sakutarou connected

Anonymous Mon Jan 1 02:53:31 2018 No.18137582
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>>18137572
There is a deep link between Lions and homosexuality I guess.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 05:12:11 2018 No.18137933 >>18137572 They are both played by the guy that played Satoshi in Higurashi.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 06:22:13 2018 No.18138072 >>18119070 I don't think there will ever be a scene in any form of fiction that could top this one for me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 06:44:39 2018 No.18138107 Does God exist in the WTC universe?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 06:46:49 2018 No.18138110 >>18138072 I honestly don't remember what I felt during that scene. Probably it has to do with my dislike of ep 8.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 06:54:07 2018 No.18138120 >>18138110 Why do you/some people dislike episode 8?

Anonymous Mon Jan 1 06:56:05 2018 No.18138126

>>18138120
It's generally rushed and poorly edited (This by R07 admission, it was written in 3 months), people didn't like how it didn't elaborate on the answers provided by episode 7, the overall message came off as bad and the goat scene.

Episode 8 manga is generally much better regarded.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 08:19:36 2018 No.18138306 I finished reading Umineko a couple months ago and ever since then it's been constantly in my mind from dawn to dusk. Am I stuck like this forever?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 08:22:55 2018 No.18138316 >>18138306 Sadly, yes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 08:28:35 2018 No.18138334 >>18137463 >>18137532 You can't destroy a vagina in the same way, it's an internal structure. And the ovaries are responsible for estrogen production, you can't really destroy those on accident like you do a dick or testicles.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 08:30:18 2018 No.18138342 >>18138334 You can destroy them on purpose!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 08:30:32 2018 No.18138343 >>18138306 Welcome to hell. There is no way out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 08:59:48 2018 No.18138448 File: 1.76 MB, 1131x1599, n6cnbp.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] does anyone know who made the painted portraits in umineko?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 09:00:50 2018 No.18138457 >>18136006 OH MY GOD

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 09:01:47 2018 No.18138460 >>18138448 More importantly, I'm sure Ryukishi plagiarized those frames from somewhere, would anyone happen to know where?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 09:17:02 2018 No.18138513 >>18138460 plagiarized? in the same way he plagiarizes the backgrounds he takes photos of?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 09:22:41 2018 No.18138529 >>18138513 It's joke dude I want to get those frames

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 09:27:06 2018 No.18138541 has anyone been to hinamizawa?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 09:51:40 2018 No.18138625 File: 152 KB, 995x665, 1514818300615.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18136143 Not psychologically. Yasu a cute.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 09:52:54 2018 No.18138628 >>18138625 Being sick in the head doesn't make you the opposite gender.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 09:54:50 2018 No.18138635 >>18138625 Is that supposed to be her period? I thought her periods never began?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 09:58:38 2018 No.18138641 File: 56 KB, 320x320, tumblr_noh7dzpzCj1u665aio1_1280-1054.png.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18138625 Why I often see her depicted to be blonde in fan art when she's clearly brown?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 10:08:41 2018 No.18138657 File: 102 KB, 894x894, yasus_by_gativo-d6pbgjk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18138641 Because Lion. Because Beatrice. >>18138635 What a story, Mark!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 10:12:31 2018 No.18138663 >>18138657 But seriously what is that blood looking stuff in front of her?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 10:17:55 2018 No.18138678 >>18138663 You're a comedic genius anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 10:20:38 2018 No.18138688 >>18138678 Quit jerking around and just tell me!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 10:22:11 2018 No.18138691 >>18138663 >>18138688 It is blood, just not hers. What answer do you expect?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 10:24:16 2018 No.18138700 >>18138691 Why is it there? Is it just there for no reason? If so, then ok. But that's just weird.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 10:29:20 2018 No.18138719 >>18138700 I'm assuming it's supposed to symbolize that Yasu killed no one and is forced to observe the tragedy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 10:33:26 2018 No.18138737 >>18138719 But period blood theory is still pretty funny, don't you see

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 10:37:26 2018 No.18138752 >>18138737 「Period blood theory. . .」

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 10:41:20 2018 No.18138769 >>18138641 Because Lion is a fantasy character that doesn't exist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 10:49:51 2018 No.18138793 >>18138306 After 6 years I can safely say, yes.

Anonymous Mon Jan 1 10:52:57 2018 No.18138802
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>>18138306
Yes and it gets worse and worse over the months. Now my greatest pleasure is watching people blind play and come up with their own theories as the story goes on.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 10:53:25 2018 No.18138804 >>18138641 People came up with that interpretation before Ep 8 manga came out. Also, Yasu is depicted as blonde in Ep 7 manga.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 10:55:47 2018 No.18138813 File: 176 KB, 437x480, fea_waraia2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18138107 Basically God.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 11:00:51 2018 No.18138825 >>18138813 But it is mentioned that she reached the realm of the gods and came back, or something along those lines. I'm just looking for like a real god, not just someone who can slice a cotton candy witch into five pieces with the power of her pen.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 11:02:41 2018 No.18138828 File: 330 KB, 700x554, 1504431794920.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18138825 Featherine is the closest thing to a revealed god as she is the only creator shown off so far. Maybe in WTC5.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 11:04:26 2018 No.18138833 >>18138306 It's been two years for me. Yes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 11:15:08 2018 No.18138876 >>18138306 Yes, time to wait for the next wtc.

Anonymous Mon Jan 1 11:41:02 2018 No.18138979

>>18138825
Ryukishi is the God of the WTC universe and Featherine is his avatar in the meta. Ikuko is Featherine's avatar in the "real world". Therefore, Ryukishi is above the meta and the meta is above the real world but is influenced by it.

It's like how Bernkastel and Lambdadelta controlled piece versions of themselves in EP2 and EP3. You could theoretically kill them in the gameboard, but they are just a avatars. Their real bodies are in the meta.

Featherine supposedly works the same way. She exists in the realm of the gods. The Featherine we see in EP8 is simply her avatar in the meta. That's why she can literally "write" how she defeated Lambda, why she can use the red truth in the real world and why Ikuko's existence is so convenient. She wrote herself into reality because she's far above that plane of existence.

The real question is... What is the real Featherine like? Is she Ryukishi? Does she look just like her meta avatar? Or something completely different? Also, is the world of the gods our world? Or is it supposed to be a fictional world from our perspective?

My theory is that the Ryukishi we know is just a body double and the real one is a woman.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 11:44:12 2018 No.18138996 >>18138107 there is some entity called the creator, but it's one with existence itself or something like that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 11:55:21 2018 No.18139060 File: 112 KB, 500x500, 1490480705958.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18138979 >The real RK07 is a woman

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 12:19:33 2018 No.18139186 >>18139060 It would explain how good he is at writing female characters.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 12:34:38 2018 No.18139257 >>18139186 >Jessica

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 12:58:20 2018 No.18139333 >>18138769 >>18138641 Lion was obvious never blonde since it's reference Shannon didn't have blonde hairs. Lion's appearance is no difference from Jessica or Natsuhi.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 13:10:10 2018 No.18139362 >>18139257 Jessica isn't a bad character, she's just not as interesting as the others because she's not fucking 50 years old. She's a simple teenage girl. Jessica actually is one of my favorite characters. I love her personality and design.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 13:11:28 2018 No.18139369 Someone tell me about Rikafag.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 13:33:50 2018 No.18139465 File: 502 KB, 1470x1088, 30744270_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18139257 What about her?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 13:41:22 2018 No.18139493 >>18139465 >No Jessica in Erika dress What a waste

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 14:43:05 2018 No.18139830 File: 434 KB, 1560x650, grimoire bible.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18138107 God is a witch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 15:13:59 2018 No.18139973 >>18123980 It's not that I like Umineko for the meta stuff, but it definitely made me appreciate it more.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 17:32:23 2018 No.18140607 File: 181 KB, 398x474, Jessica old outfit final with hat.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18139493

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 17:44:30 2018 No.18140643 >>18140607 She's got the hairiest pussy in Umineko. Not even Ushiromiya Angste can compare.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 18:20:04 2018 No.18140794 >>18140643 Shut up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 19:31:09 2018 No.18141148 >you'll never join the clan of the Plurifernandos >why live? Oopsie daisy, wrong thread ;)

Anonymous Mon Jan 1 20:02:10 2018 No.18141301

R07 writes that Ikuko visted the realm of the Gods and came back. Ryukishi is God. Like Dante, he loved a woman and made her a character in his series. The reason she has “come back” into the meta world is because she died in the real world.

Alternatively, he is the personafication of BT, R.I.P

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 20:05:10 2018 No.18141318 >>18141301 Maybe BT stands for Beatrice?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 20:07:02 2018 No.18141328 >>18141301 >Alternatively, he is the personafication of BT, R.I.P This is a rabbit hole I've gone down several times. There's definitely some supporting evidence, although you might have to make some leaps to connect the dots.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 20:15:32 2018 No.18141374 File: 788 KB, 900x3384, Ikuko and Tohya bonding.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18141328 The way I see it, Ikuko = Ryukishi Tohya = BT

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 21:57:35 2018 No.18141868 >>18141328 Autistic leaps of logic is my forte

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 23:37:00 2018 No.18142450 File: 3.50 MB, 1500x1500, 1491129370904.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Thread is almost dead, reminder of who the best witch is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 23:41:49 2018 No.18142480 File: 706 KB, 830x1900, When The Attorney Cries.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does anyone have the comparison images of the Umineko manga and anime? The scene in particular is when Ange is denying the stakes.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 03:44:26 2018 No.18143414 >>18143390 Fucking Deen. They gave Ange a chubby feminist face.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 03:45:28 2018 No.18143416 >>18143414 >Fucking Deen. They gave Ange a chubby feminist face. So like in the novel.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 04:07:35 2018 No.18143480 File: 203 KB, 800x700, ange lood.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18143414 Chubby feminist thighs!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 04:33:11 2018 No.18143555 File: 144 KB, 520x505, Ougon Ange 5.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18143480 No feminist has a body like Ange's.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 08:01:43 2018 No.18144168 File: 372 KB, 1000x1460, 14.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Would Umineko have been received better if Ep. 8 had been like the manga?

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 08:17:35 2018 No.18144220
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>>18144168
The one thing people usually complain about is that Episode 8 didn't reveal enough information or had too much of a different tone and if it was like the manga, maybe it really would have changed peoples opinions. I am fine with the VN Episode 8 though, pacing issues aside.

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 08:48:56 2018 No.18144330

>>18138126
He never ever mentioned EP8.
Three months ago he just said he got out of pace in a certain portion of the game and apologizes. I for one believe he is talking about EP6, as he wrote it in a period of 2 months since he was dealing with his best friend's death.

EP8 makes perfect sense as the chaotic mess it is when you consider what is happening in Rokkenjima Prime at the same time, and it never actually rushed its points too much (it just didn't went explicit, and that was also an important plot device per se.

Umineko was never meant to spoonfeed answers to its readers, and its very core, it was meant to be a love letter to the mystery genre and a game between author and readers.

The reason why he made answers in a separate medium instead of expanding plot points as he did being the executive producer of the Higurashi console arcs (he could have done that in the PS3 release if he so wanted, most likely) is probably because he would never want to do so in the actual VN.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 08:49:56 2018 No.18144333 Brainlet here. Just finished Chiru last night without reaching the truth. How do I reconcile with the fact taht nobody ever realized that Shannon and Kannon are the same person? Did Shannon just carry a bag of clothes around with her all the time?

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 08:57:30 2018 No.18144360

>>18144333
3 main servants/doctor got her 24h/d backup ever since she came by

not that difficult really, EP7 shown us just how easy things were to work out.

As for Kanon, he barely interacts with anyone, even Jessica, so it's difficult to actually grow suspicious of them being the same person (especially when most of the family probably thought they were siblings).

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 08:59:46 2018 No.18144367

>>18144330
>He never ever mentioned EP8.

I'm pretty sure he mentioned episode 8 was written in only 3 months. He also said he had a bunch of ideas (Black Will, Witch form for Ange), but they never came into fruition because he couldn't settle for it.

Ep. 8 in general felt very poorly paced and weird written compared to everything else.

>>18144333
Kanon and Shannon are never on the same the shift, also Kanon keeps his distance and talks very little.

The most hard part to shallow is how Yasu created and started to role play as Kanon before she became the family head, or the voice issue. And yeah, Jessica's stuff is kinda silly I guess.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 09:00:20 2018 No.18144370 >>18144333 I assume most days Kanon and Shannon had different shifts from each other except for the last conference, which worked in Yasu's favor.

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 09:08:53 2018 No.18144410

>>18144367
He never mentioned the issue was with EP8, three months ago. EP6 was written in a much shorter time anyway.

And EP8 is meant to be chaotic and ever-as implicit much like EP7, just like that. He would have expanded it otherwise, as he did with Higurashi's incomplete plot points.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 09:10:34 2018 No.18144419 >>18144410 Addendum, I meant expanding in a visual novel version, not in an adaptation in the manga medium.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 09:13:41 2018 No.18144430 >>18144410 I don't really get peoples problems with EP8 at all.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 09:20:14 2018 No.18144462 >>18144430 Count me in on that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 09:33:57 2018 No.18144507 >>18144462 >>18144430 It completed neglected the heart of the story in favor of magic battles no one gave a fuck about.

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 09:46:18 2018 No.18144560

>>18144507
It did the complete opposite, what the hell are you saying. It only has less heart than EP7 and 6, maybe. EP5 was the one with complete lack of heart and a whole other whydunnit and even that was one of the best EPs too.

Your point makes no sense.

The magic battles from the very beginning are all about visual symbolism anyway.

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 09:47:23 2018 No.18144568
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>>18144507
You're crazy to think that EP8 neglected the heart of the story. Did the idea of the wizard battles ruin your opinion and everything that happened in the Episode so much that you now believe lies?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 09:52:22 2018 No.18144594 >>18144507 Eba-baitoriche!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 09:54:30 2018 No.18144607 >>18144370 >most days >worked in Yasu's favor Yasu literally set everything up as the family head. It wasn't luck, he could get Genji to change the servant shifts at any time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 09:56:01 2018 No.18144616 >>18144607 Yasu assumed the role of Kanon before he was made head.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 10:06:05 2018 No.18144655 File: 16 KB, 451x358, 1508330574699.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18144594

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 10:09:06 2018 No.18144667 >>18144616 Genji and Kumasawa knew anyway

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 10:32:06 2018 No.18144765 >>18142480 I never know I wanted something like this until now

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 10:44:46 2018 No.18144835

>>18144560
>It did the complete opposite, what the hell are you saying. It only has less heart than EP7 and 6, maybe. EP5 was the one with complete lack of heart and a whole other whydunnit and even that was one of the best EPs too.

Ep. 5 lacked of heart as a motive for the murders, but as a story it had a plenty.

Ep. 8 magic battles were mostly pointless shit unlike ep. 2 magic battles for example.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 10:45:52 2018 No.18144844 >>18144667 Yeah, but he didn't know they did.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 11:04:08 2018 No.18144954 Who's the biggest dickhead in Umineko?

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 11:16:56 2018 No.18145025 >>18144954 Kinzo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 11:18:11 2018 No.18145031 >>18144954 and why is it Rudolph?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 11:24:46 2018 No.18145074 >>18144835 If the magic battles in EP8 had real meaning beyond who wins or who loses or were some sort of clever "metaphor", it would make no sense. Most of them happen OUTSIDE the gameboard and between meta-characters. What did you expect?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 11:27:16 2018 No.18145096 >>18144560 Nobody got killed in EP5, it was all fake. The victims of the first twilight died from the explosion, not because the creepy eunuch on the phone killed them or anything like that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 11:30:29 2018 No.18145126 >Berunkasteru will never run out of things to do or think about and turn into a scrap of seaweed Why live?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 11:33:02 2018 No.18145149 >>18145014 >there are people that will never see this face The Alchemist version doesn't do this face justice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 11:34:09 2018 No.18145159 >>18145126 >you will never destroy Maria's butthole Why live?

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 11:37:16 2018 No.18145189
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>>18145074
>If the magic battles in EP8 had real meaning beyond who wins or who loses or were some sort of clever "metaphor", it would make no sense. Most of them happen OUTSIDE the gameboard and between meta-characters. What did you expect?

You are acting like we don't have a version of episode 8 with good magic battles, the manga.

Battler vs Erika is ass in the novel, but fucking amazing in the manga.

>>18145096
People died in episode 5 for real, Lambda rewrote Yasu's motivations and she bribed Battler. They all think they are playing a game but Yasu is killing everyone to make Natsuhi suffer.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 11:40:13 2018 No.18145214 >>18145096 >>18145189 Krauss got killed, but I really doubt the cousins were killed before 24:00 on the second day.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 11:45:23 2018 No.18145254 File: 295 KB, 900x1314, 20_37.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18145214 Nope, manga confirmed Yasu was murdering everyone behind the scenes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 11:48:11 2018 No.18145275 >>18145254 What exactly does the manga say about EP3? I never understood how Eva could be involved with Yasu when everything points to her being an accidental murderer that fucked up Yasu's plans.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 11:49:51 2018 No.18145285 >>18145275 As far as I know they never were in alliance, Yasu is just an idiot who killed George and Nanjo despite the epitaph being solved.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 11:50:06 2018 No.18145286 >>18145275 It just says Eva and Hideyoshi were bribed, everything else is kinda vague. Rosa and Maria murders were definitely an accident and not by Yasu.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 11:52:14 2018 No.18145294 >>18145254 >ever quoting the manga

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 11:54:06 2018 No.18145308 >>18145286 But Will sais there are no falsehoods in their final moments as told. It was Beatrice who killed them so surely it was actually Yasu

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 11:56:24 2018 No.18145320

>>18145308
I'm pretty sure it's Eva-Beatrice who kills them . Yasu just finishes them in the magical scene because Eva is torturning her.

Also Yasu would never kill Maria that way, her body must never be desecrated and she always should make it to the end.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 11:57:03 2018 No.18145324 >>18145126 >Ryukishi will most likely die before you >You'll be forced to live in a world with 0% chance of new wtc

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 12:00:09 2018 No.18145346 >>18145320 Eva killed Rosa, Maria, Rudolf, Kyrie, Krauss, Natsuhi and Battler. Kyrie kills Hideyoshi. Yasu kills everyone else aside from Eva.

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 12:04:10 2018 No.18145372

>>18145346
Right. Most of the discussions are on wherever Eva was bribed or genuinely solved the epitaph.

Given the manga says Eva was bribed (And I think Our Confession mention Beato shows people the Golden) and we know Yasu will always stop if someone solves it, I think she got in a fight with Rosa, murdered her by ancient, and took over from there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 12:04:45 2018 No.18145377 So did Ikuko write EP8 as a direct message to Ange, and if so why doesn't Ange talk about it?

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 12:06:13 2018 No.18145392

>>18145372
I don't think Eva was bribed, I think they was some weird miscommunication between the 2 and they ended up killing separate people. If Yasu and Eva were teaming up, then Yasu wouldn't feel the need to write the safety deposit box numbers. Although with this said, the question comes up to why does she kill Nanjo after?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 12:10:38 2018 No.18145426 >>18145324 anon, staph fuck, I'm now feeling suicidal and I want muh wtc5 before that dammit

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 12:10:49 2018 No.18145427
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>>18145392
>I don't think Eva was bribed, I think they was some weird miscommunication between the 2 and they ended up killing separate people. If Yasu and Eva were teaming up, then Yasu wouldn't feel the need to write the safety deposit box numbers. Although with this said, the question comes up to why does she kill Nanjo after?

I went back to check Eva was definitely bribed. Also it confirms Rosa's death was a mistake and she strangled Maria to silence her afterward.

Yasu won't stop until the epitaph is solved, that's why she kept staking people and killed Nanjo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 12:11:43 2018 No.18145433 >>18132762 Not their fault though, that was done in the actual PS3 game I believe.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 12:12:16 2018 No.18145441 >>18145427 I didn't read the manga so this info is new to me, so thanks for the info. I did assume that Rosa was a mistake over a heated discussion about keeping the gold under wraps.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 12:13:49 2018 No.18145453 >>18145377 Why would she really?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 12:15:31 2018 No.18145473 >>18145453 I would think it would almost be a direct confirmation that Battler lived.

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 12:27:07 2018 No.18145539

>>18145427
Yasu sayed in the mansion after killing off her two personas and Nanjo told George to go there in secret through the window "because Eva is most likely the culprit".

Yasu had no way of knowing that the epitaph had been solved. One would expect the discoverer to announce it to everyone instead of pretending that nothing happened.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 12:29:24 2018 No.18145545 >>18145427 The in-game death profiles suggest that Eva was the one staking people.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 12:55:00 2018 No.18145713 Is Kyrie just pretending to be supremely edgy to Eva in EP7 Tea Party? It feels a bit off even for someone who would murder the entire family for money.

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 13:02:21 2018 No.18145743

>>18145545
Eva doesn't' have the stakes and why would she care about staking people or the ritual?

We know Yasu will follow fate until her last moments, Eva has no reason to follow it.

>>18145539
>Yasu had no way of knowing that the epitaph had been solved. One would expect the discoverer to announce it to everyone instead of pretending that nothing happened.
Makes sense, however how do you reconcile it with Yasu bribing Eva?

>>18145713
EP7 is the truth, but it's the truth from Eva's point of view. A popular theory is that knew her gun was faulty, so she played the part of the villain in order to secure Ange's future.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 13:04:10 2018 No.18145750 File: 3.14 MB, 1920x1090, Episode 8.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The meta is nice but it's sort of like the icing on a cake - it doesn't quite stand on its own.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 14:46:02 2018 No.18146290 Is Umineko Okonogi tthe same as Higurashi Okonogi?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 15:05:07 2018 No.18146415 >>18146290 probably from a different kakera but yeah, same guy

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 15:22:57 2018 No.18146472 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLhqUzUgxc

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 15:31:01 2018 No.18146508

>>18146472
Did anyone else here form a Rosatrice theory on their own while reading Umineko? After finishing EP8 I tried reading the Rosa wiki page and was really surprised to find that nothing about her being the culprit was mentioned. Then I surfed the wiki for a while and eventually found the actual truth.

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 15:37:12 2018 No.18146534
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>>18146508
No because Rosatrice is a conspiracy theory that relies on few out of context scenes and basically exists because people couldn't deal with the fact their waifu had been born a dude.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 15:39:29 2018 No.18146554 >>18146534 No I think it exists because Rosa seems like the most plausible culprit for people like me who couldn't be bothered to think for two seconds between episodes.

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 15:42:39 2018 No.18146577
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>>18146554
Rosatrice wasn't a thing until after episode 8, or at least no more than <any character>trice. It only blew up after that. Also not a thing in Japan.

And you don't need to think to figure Shannon is the culprit in Chiru.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 15:46:18 2018 No.18146599 >>18146577 >And you don't need to think to figure Shannon is the culprit in Chiru. Are you calling me stupid?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 15:47:27 2018 No.18146604 >>18146599 How the hell do you think Lion and Yasu were?

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 15:56:36 2018 No.18146644

>>18146604
You mean who?

I can totally see that EP7 really rubs the truth in your face, but that is only after I found out the truth.

When Yasu decided that she wanted to stop being a servant and she'd rather be a witch, at that point I was still wondering just who Yasu was. I just couldn't see the double identity thing going on.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 16:12:44 2018 No.18146701 >>18146644 I mean, Yasu's friend Shannon who doesn't age and is always with her and can have her memories erased sounds very suspicious to me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 16:20:09 2018 No.18146738 >>18146701 Them being the same person is still a great leap of faith to make from that. It's very possible that I'm just dumb. I really wish I actually tried to solve the mystery.

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 16:25:43 2018 No.18146766

>>18146738
What about Shannon and Kanon taking 19 steps in the duel? What about Lion being Natsuhi's kid?

I didn't get it either, but I wasn't really thinking at the time and my English was pretty weak. I don't think it can go over your head if you are actually trying to think about the mystery.

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 16:32:46 2018 No.18146811

>>18146766
>What about Shannon and Kanon taking 19 steps in the duel?

This is something that I missed entirely.

>What about Lion being Natsuhi's kid?

I don't see how this would be relevant in revealing the real culprit.

>I didn't get it either, but I wasn't really thinking at the time and my English was pretty weak. I don't think it can go over your head if you are actually trying to think about the mystery.

Just reading through a novel this long was pretty difficult for me. It took me about six months.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 16:49:15 2018 No.18146889 Zepar and Furfur are unironically my favorite of all the one-dimensional magic characters.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 17:56:59 2018 No.18147259 Do the Steam releases have CGs? I heard you have to do something in the game files to enable them.

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:07:30 2018 No.18147298

>>18147259
I find CGs cringy as fuck, so I'm glad they are only in the game files and don't actually appear during the story.

I have to admit that the Steam CGs are much better looking than the Alchemist ones. Those designs look really good in CGs, but absolutely horrible as sprites.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:09:48 2018 No.18147312 >>18147259 The cgs are very specific and it wouldn't make sense for them to appear while you play. They mostly depict scenes that only last a few lines of text.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:10:28 2018 No.18147314 File: 2.99 MB, 1920x1080, ep811.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18147298 >not liking the Alchemist CGs

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:24:57 2018 No.18147391

>>18147259
The CGs are in the files of the games. Apparently they're already defined in the Question Arc release and just need to be enabled in the script, but not in the Answer Arc. You will have to manually edit Answer Arc's files to have the right CG display at the right moment.
There's a fan patch being worked on that has them defined for Episode 5 and 6 so far, if you're interested.
https://github.com/KyuuGryphon/umineko-chiru-cgs/releases

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:29:43 2018 No.18147418

>>18147298
I hate them too. When I read Umineko, I get immersed in the story and suspend my disbelief. I forget that the characters are just sprites appearing and disappering. So when a CG suddenly appears and breaks the "flow" of the sprites, it's like I'm seeing the author manually inserting a CG into the game. It really takes me out of the story and reminds me that I'm playing a VN.

Imagine that you are reading a VN and suddenly the happy music changes to something really melancholic because a character started talking about a sad event. But they only mention the sad event and three lines later they go back to talking about something completely different, so the music changes again in like 10 seconds.

This hypothetical scenario would be really awkward and make you think "wow, they changed the music too quickly", breaking your immersion. That's how I feel about CGs. You spend the whole time imagining the scenes with the help of sprites and suddently this big fucking static image appears and takes you out of the "trance".

I don't mind it in other VNs, but Umineko wasn't written with CGs in mind. It's obvious when the sprites are supposed to be on screen but they are not because a CG is replacing them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:33:28 2018 No.18147437 >>18147418 >more "Everything the PS3 version added was terrible"

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:38:18 2018 No.18147469

>>18147418
Umineko is sold as a sound novel rather than a visual novel, so the graphics were never the focus of it in the first place. But I'm fine with the PS3 features as an added touch after reading through the original, more incentive to read through it all once more.

>>18147437
It will never die.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:38:35 2018 No.18147472 >>18147418 >>18147437 The worst thing is the fucking dialog box, completely breaks the story flow in quite a lot of scenes.

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:46:04 2018 No.18147520

>>18147314
The CGs are fine, I just don't like to see them during the actual story. And I think the Alchemist sprites are really bland compared to the originals. They look really good, but they simply pale in comparison. They lack the charm of Ryukishi's crude drawings.

The designs themselves don't bother me that much, though. What I find disappointing when I compare them to the original sprites is how plastic and shiny they look. They feel cheap and I prefer the hand drawn look of the originals, with all their imperfections.

It's like how the new Simpsons episodes look like dogshit. The old ones were hand drawn and the characters were slightly off-model half the time, which looks beautiful.

Ever played Subarashiki Hibi? Don't look it up, it's a great fucking VN and it can be easily ruined by a couple of spoiler images. Anyway, I love how the sprites and CGs look in that game. The way the lines are drawn, the way the sprites are colored and how deep the eyes look. It's like a colored MANGA and it's fucking beautiful. Most other VN sprites and CGs have that "modern computer-animated anime" look that doesn't look bad but feels cheap and generic. As if the characters are made of shiny plastic.

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:50:05 2018 No.18147540

>>18147469
It can be interesting in a second read, but I think it's a bad idea to play it for the first time with a bunch of patches.

>the graphics were never the focus of it in the first place
And that's my point. In my opinion, the updated art hurts the experience a little bit. It's not just a harmless change in art style.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 19:14:35 2018 No.18147654 Post your favorite unused tracks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSg2-SakI8Q

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:01:11 2018 No.18147870 New thread >>18147865

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:14:51 2018 No.18147932 File: 356 KB, 1920x1080, EVA.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Good thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:26:37 2018 No.18147987 Bad thread!

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:34:04 2018 No.18148018 >>18143390 Thank you, I kept forgetting to save it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 21:11:28 2018 No.18148203 >>18148018 No problem. I'm glad someone liked the comparisons I made.

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