Elona

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>New? Start here:
http://pastebin.com/vmW2qYkD

>Mods:
http://pastebin.com/HcTtYVsn

>E+ Changelogs up to 1.73:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Changelog_%28Elona%2B%29

>Elona Custom Release Thread:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:25014

>New Chat Server info:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:19535#107

>Previous Thread
>>17808881

Current Version: Elona+ 1.73 (10/29/2017)
Latest Custom: E+C 1.73.1

Errors? Set the compatibility of the .exe to WINDOWS 7.

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>>17854683
First for Loyter!

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It seems Itzpalt's sculpture has a use beyond home decoration and light source. Apparently it helps out in cooking. One of the things I've noticed it does is that if you cook a cursed steak the sculpture will remove the curse leaving you with an uncursed steak for instance. The sculpture seems to also work on non cursed food items but I'm not entirely sure at the moment in what it is doing to them. My guess is that it's removing anything harmful from the food and making it edible. Anyone have any ideas what it's doing?

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>>17855057
Interesting. So if you carry it around with you, anything you cook will be noncursed and safe to eat, even if it's unID'd? I'd definitely pick that up; I'm tired of having to drop food on the ground to see if my waifu thinks it's edible.

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Ah my savefile corrupted, just when I was really getting into the game.

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>>17855607
Always make backups.

Does the sculpture uncap the rank cooked foods can be? Ie, can you get rank 9 with a portable cooking set?

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>>17854373
Bottles of dye work like poison and can stop pregnancy.

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>>17854373
give them valuable stones like sun eath junk stone or diamond. the pets will sell those stones and pump up their skills by themselves.

>>17854343
what about materials? i doubt you can give 'magnificent perlwork' to the body pillow, or does it not matter regarding to sleep? what about paper happy beds?

>>17855301
just saying, food sharing your pets will also prevents you ffrom eating cursed food.

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>>17856003
Has anyone checked after the recent changes to sleep potential gain or the body pillow?

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>>17855827
As far as I'm aware no one has found any measurable difference between beds before, everyone just thought there really should be.

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>>17856003
What about happy beds?

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so i've been seeing these potions of vitality but i can't find an entry for them on the wiki. what do they do?

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>>17854639
Thank you for helping me out, I'll try it out now

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>>17856319
I changed it up, but my golden knight isn't even casting heal critical when wounded with enemies nearby

I'm not sure what is going on, my other pet is using ranged attacks when she's at range, and switches to melee properly, did I fuck something up?

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>>17856003
The inherit bed quality does make a difference in potential gained from after sleep: sleeping on a crap bed or no bed at all (like with forced sleep sharing) gives little to no extra potential, while using a king or happy bed gets me XX% of potential instead. Since the jure body pillow has 0 quality, you're basically forgoing potential for better dreams, so it's not totally superior.

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>>17856313
they are simply healing potions. maybe they heal in precentages rather than in actual nuumbers, i donnu. try them out.

>>17856365
can you show us the individual command?

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>>17856442

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wat
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>>17856550
soup of wonderland sets a targets height and weight to "little girl" values, somewhere between 140 and 160 cm and 40 and 50 kg

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>>17856497
try setting 'preserve entity as target' to 'on' in all the commands relevant to yourself.

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>mfw i raised my living sycth to such a high level that ts blood sucking is killing my do faster than the dog healing skill can help
is there a limit to how much blood aa weapon can demend?

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>>17855057
>those stats
what the fuck

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>>17856590
I see you're new here, welcome, I will be your guide.

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>>17856596
How do I get stronk, mr(s) guide?

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>>17856565
Still the same, I could upload the save if you wanna mess around with it, but I'm not sure where it is going wrong, it's as if she's ignoring her custom AI

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>>17856365
You forgot to set the Condition and Value for the Insult line.

>>17856497
Lines where the Entity is "Target" don't need "Preserve Entity As Target".

>>17856612
There's only one thing I can think of: did you change her battle mode from Onslaught to Intercept?

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>>17856710
That's what I did

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>>17856710
>>17856710
That did the trick, thank you

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>>17856603
not him(her) but i say that in order to get strong you need to keep potential up. keeping potential for skills up is easy, but forstats potential youll need a good source of potions of potential which you can get from magic vendors you invested money in, or at least herbbbed in food that is easy to acquire as long as you have a farm and a pot of fusion. at the very least, have a pet with cooking and go to sleep at decent hours.

regarding raw fighting power, just make sure weapon skills as well as tactics/eyeofmind/marksmen are at high%.

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Lesson learned. I really should have just let my adventuring party part time as shop keepers instead of stick pets in the shop permanently and hope their stuff increases.

>>17855301
>>17855633
After running more tests with the sculpture the only thing it has been doing is turning cursed corpses into non cursed finished food when cooking. It doesn't increase or do anything to food rank. That's still governed largely of cooking skill and cooking tool. Sculpture doesn't seem to do anything to rotten food as rotten food stays rotten.

>>17856590
Yeah I've been playing for a long time.

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>>17858093
Please break it down how you're making lots of gold in 1.73 Kai. What are you selling?

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>>17856603
>>17858052
Don't be misleading.

All he has to do is play for 4 years.

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>>17856603
Autism. Lots of autism.

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>>17858520
I've been playing this game for 5 years off and on since high school and I haven't gotten as strong as some of the players I've seen in these threads.

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>>17858621
You have to commit to grinding efficiently, if you just play the game you'll never achieve that kind of strength no matter how much time you put in.

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>>17858628
This. I remember when everyone was just mages in this game and here comes little Kai the martial artist in threads of yore. By the time he hit the 30 hour mark he had like twice the stats of my character.

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>>17858675
He already had experience in getting to godslaying levels before, it's easy to get swole when you know exactly what to do and how to get there.

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Is it better to clear dungeons that are a higher level than you, or a lower one? My martial arts skill has slowed to a crawl and it's only level 82. I'm wondering if I need to punch bigger things or not

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>>17858912
What matters is the number of actions you take and your potential. If you're clearing really easy dungeons you're probably just not getting as many hits in anymore. Also it just gets more difficult to earn XP the higher your skill gets.

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>>17858950
Yeah, that makes sense. My strength potential is superb, and I try to keep MA over 300%. I should honestly go solo in the void for a few floors since 2/3 of my pets are a higher level than me

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>>17858229
My adventuring team has cap charisma and has passed the effective negotiation skill level to bring in the most gold. A diet of curaria and later the herbed in stuff boosted their attributes such as charisma. As for negotiation skill I never actually put any bonus points from AP into that skill so the main thing that raised their skill in it is the traveling skill. A combination of high charisma and shop rank is the reason why my shops get hundreds or thousands of people through the shop door.

As for what I'm selling it's mainly things I craft, harvest from my farms, or find in dungeons/void. The void in particular is a great place for me to loot stuff as there's an endless supply of monsters and I don't need to consume a lot of daytime traveling from dungeon to dungeon.

I had Mina be the shopkeeper for my magic shop. She brought in around 3.7 million gold from selling the magic rods I harvested from my farms along with rods, spellbooks, and scrolls I found in the void. I had Akeno run my blacksmith shop and she made around 13 million gold selling all the weapons and armor I found lying around in the void. I had Saya as my shopkeeper for my food shop and she made around 6.8 million gold. Due to the constant stream of monsters in the void I had plenty of opportunities to get corpses to cook and sell with one corpse yielding me 3 cooked items.

I had Mai as the shopkeeper for my inn and she did really well in the amount of gold she brought in. I noticed that potions of potential and potions of cure corruption that I sold to my home vendors were going for 20-33k each. If that was the case they certainly would sell for more in my inn. I had huge stacks of potions of cure corruption from finding them in dungeons, winning them in blackjack(I'm not sure why I haven't been banned from casinos yet considering my dex score), and magic vendors. I had huge stacks of potions of potential through finding them in dungeons, magic vendors, and crafting them through alchemy. Due to the huge stacks I have I didn't really have problems selling off a portion of the stacks in my inn. Mai made me around 10 million gold.

Those are just some of my gold making activities. Other activities I do occasionally are selling stone/wood crafts as well as waste art. I also sell flowers, fur rugs, and log cabins. As for how I get all the materials to craft potions of potential and create the above stuff I rely on farming material scrolls, going to dungeons during fever mode to farm resource nodes, and my pets collect materials too. Seeing as I have 4 pets that accompany everywhere they collect a lot of material for me while we're down in the void.

While there is no fast and easy way to make gold currently, there are still plenty of ways to make gold in 1.73 and if you're willing to work for it you can still make lots of gold.

>>17858912
Martial arts is a weapon skill and like all weapon skills it's your weapon skill vs the opponents evasion skill. MA trains best against enemies that have enough evasion to dodge against the accuracy gains bestowed by MA. If you're vsing enemies that die too fast or never dodge your attacks your gains in MA will eventually stop.

For this reason you will need to be on the lookout for stronger and stronger enemies that have higher evasion. Usually higher level monsters have higher evasion. So if your gains are slowing down try doing higher level dungeons with monsters that belong in higher level brackets. Eventually though dungeons will eventually not yield strong enough monsters for skill gain since monster levels are fixed in normal dungeons. So eventually the void or an awakened dungeon will be the only ways to increase MA because the levels of the monsters in there keep increasing.

What I suggest if you haven't done so already is to turn on skill tracking and take note of what monsters are actually increasing your MA. If your skill isn't increasing at all on the things you're fighting it's time to either seek out higher level dungeons or explore further down in the void.

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>>17859143
Is it better to herb herbs or to herb food from a stat boost perspective and not a hunger satiation one? To herb a curaria I need two separate entries so an identified one and a blessed, or blessed and an unid one, right?

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>>17859143
What do you even do with your gold at that point?

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>>17859273
Better to use herb in curarias if available. Yes either way works in the creation of them.

>>17859278
Growth scrolls cost 3.5 million gold each. I use my millions I make to buy large stacks of those so I can restore all my skill potentials without using platinum. Since I'm not using platinum for skills that frees my 1000+ platinum I currently have to be used on magic classes to boost all my spell levels in bulk quickly.

I also spend the rest on pet gold trainer fees, buying treasure maps and other things that strike my fancy. Since I have the gold I also might as well keep increasing my charisma through investing.

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>>17859273
You can also have one stack that is blessed and another stack that is unblessed that are both identified.

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>>17859366
Right, I just thought up the first two that came to mind as an example.
>>17859351
Thanks again for the info. I have plenty of those herbs to make a decent number of stacks.
>3.5 million for one scroll.
Sweet yacatect, that's a lot of money

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>>17859375
Sorry, not a couple of stacks. But still a respectable amount for a peasant such as i

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>enemy in the pet arena drops an evo heart
Why is this allowed?

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>>17856557
Pretty depressive that I weight less than a little girl.

>>17859375
Buyable scrolls of growth were added as an endgame money sink.

>>17859487
Normal evo hearts aren't that rare.

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So a series of events led me to a field with a live nuke in permadeath mode.
What should I do before the nuke blows?

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>>17859978
1.read scroll of escape
2. read scrolls of teleport untill you are close enough to map edge
3. cast contigency
4. use time stop ammo. if no monster nearby, use sommun onster than time top ammo

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>>17859978
I'm interested in learning more about the events that lead up to this. Desire to know more intensifies. Cast contigency and hope or teleport and hope you're within a couple of steps of walking out of the map. Drop shelter and go in nuclear fallout shelter. If nothing else works pray real hard.

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>>17859978
How many rounds until it goes off? Also, story time

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>>17860031
>>17860043
5 ticks left.
In middle of the field.
No scrolls/contingency.
Only with a bunch of random artifacts.
Since you said "pray real hard", I'm going in. If you don't hear from me, know I went out on my own accord.

>>17860036
Probably later. If I end up surviving this.

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>>17860081
if you have any level up feats left, consider getting dimensional movement

do you have time stop ammo?

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>>17860081
RIP anon. ;_;

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So I kicked Enthumesis's face in with Time Stop shenanigans on dual wield.
I'm guessing we wait for the next content after this.
No lie, was funny when the guy helping you said "No wait! Something's happening... In the next expansion!"
That was like next level of bamboozling.

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this is the first time i had an equip that gives a 3 digit bonus in pv.

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I'm a newfag, do I download this in the official website and play it in Engrish or is there any translation pack around? I remember I downloaded this long ago and it was hard to understand. If there's no way to fix it then I'll deal with it, but I wanted to see if some miracles existed

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>>17861118
Base E+ has limited translation on the English setting, but the relatively recent Elona Custom mod (of E+, which was already a mod) translates nearly everything. You just get E+, then download and unzip custom into the same folder, and start the game with the custom exe. Everything you need is in the OP. You can go to and from normal E+ and custom at will without messing up your folder. It just adds some QOL stuff.

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>>17861156
Thanks anon, I will head to the first dungeon without grinding to celebrate your help

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I was really hyped for this game today but it's just too confusing in general. I want to pick it up but fuuuck, dying seems so easy early on

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>>17861505
It takes a while in getting used to and you'll get overwhelmed so much when you first start playing. Just dont go to dungeons until you have decent equipment and a well-equiped pet. Go level up at the puppy dungeon

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>>17861505
just remember the saying 'those who fight and run away live to fight another way.

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How long has the new chat server been down?

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>>17861118
Get Elona+ and Elona Custom. Extract Elona+ somewhere, and then extract Custom on top of it, overwriting files. BloodyShade, one of the two people working on Custom, has downloads on Mega and his own site. Here's the thread for it on the wiki:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:25014

>>17861505
You get a bow and arrow in the tutorial, and a little girl joins you at the first town. Hang back and shoot at enemies while she rushes them.
Starting out is always the hardest. I'd suggest beginning with the Dimensional Move, Hypnotism, and Exorcist feats. They'll all come in handy for a new player.

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>>17861671
When I equip a bow and I put the Arrow that the tutorial gives me, when trying to fire it says that I have the wrong type of ammunition. What did I do wrong?

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>>17861679
The bow goes in the shoot slot, the arrows go into the ammo slot

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>>17861692
You got it, I was equipping the bow in hand. That makes it pretty clear to me, thanks. I will reset later on, any combination in particular that will help me learn the ropes?

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>>17861679
Did you equip a "repeating bow"? Because that's a type of crossbow, so you'd need bolts.

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>>17861704
No, it was the tutorial bow, but i put it in Hnad1 or something like that, where normal weapons go

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>>17861701
anything can help you learn the ropes
the warmage class is nice since it dabs in both magic and fighing, but it lacks crafting and stealing

you know what? go for something classic like an elvish archer or dwarven warrior. you can try the exotic stuff later.

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>Due to the constant stream of monsters in the void I had plenty of opportunities to get corpses to cook and sell with one corpse yielding me 3 cooked items.

How are you getting tripple the meals from a single corpse?

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>>17861826
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Cooking#Elona.2B_Changes
>Once you have over 100 cooking (including skill bonus from items/gods), each ingredient you cook produces an additional cooked item without using extra ingredients. Having 200 Cooking produces three cooked items from one ingredient.

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>>17861790
I know I most likely can't open the tutorial chest, but how do I even access the lockpicking skill? I selected it at the beggining, when I created my character, and still I can't manage to find any way to reach a way to use that skill

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>>17861991
You just try to open it (o or enter if your standing over it) and you'll automatically try to pick the lock.

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>>17861991
It's automatic when you try to open a locked door or container.
Also, yeah, that chest is basically a giant paperweight.

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>>17861991
you use it automatically whenever you are trying to open locked stuff. chests need you to have lockpicks before you can attampt to open them, but dungeon door are safe game.

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>>17861505
I was on the same boat as you.
Wanted to play again after not playing for years, rolled my favorite class, an elven performer... 5 times. All of them I gave up on. Now I made a dwarf predator following the martial artist guide and I've only died maybe twice, and I'm level 11. My little sister feels like she's putting in all the work though, but I'm happy to be alive.

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>>17862965
Unrelated question by unrelated anon: Where do I find the skeleton key? I've found dozens of named weps, I've found eternal force stuff over a number of characters, but I've yet to see skeleton key spawn a single time.

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>>17863272
Random adventurers, I've gotten it on multiple characters. But their inventories tend to get clogged with garbage.

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>>17863272
If you read a scroll of oracle (or check the art.log file in your save folder), you might see that an adventurer acquired it. If you manage to track them down, you can trade for it. It's worth about three potions of cure corruption.

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how do i get hungry demons into sandbags? i caught one to use for my sandbag, brought him to my storage house and the game says I can't use the sandbag on an ally

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>>17863961
It's telling you the literal truth. The sandbag works like a monster ball, except with less range.

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>>17864067
oh okay, so i use that in place of the ball. thanks anon

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So when I die, I lose charisma. Is there any way to recover that charisma?

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>>17864326
Eat lots of fruit.

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>>17864407
An apple a day keeps the uglies away?

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I left the 39th floor of the Cradle of Chaos to get some things and this happened.

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http://ylvania.org/jp/devlog/post/16/-1-7
New blog post about Elin. Development is going well and Noa is aiming to have a playable alpha by the end of the year.

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Are there any PCC clothes modpacks for the default bodies? All the packs in the pastebin are for bodies that look far too large compared to the npcs.

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>>17867568
That's because more detail for something you'll be looking at the whole game is better. But the official PCC pack by Noa should work on reduced body sizes if you want.

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>>17867630
I've tried that one and it doesn't, it just feels weird having my character being twice the size of the npcs, thanks anyway.

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>check quest board
>cocktail party quest
>fruit grand perfait
>go to nearby fruit tree
>bump it till nothing drops anymore
>pick up all the cherries
>one cursed cherry
>cook it
>cursed cherry grand parfait

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>>17868841
this board is a grand parfait of cursed cherries.

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>>17868869
nigga
that's DEEP

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New player here. Does your charisma need to be above a certain amount in order to use Cheer? I've got 12 charisma and picked that feat (the feat menu says "You can temporally strengthen your allies") but Cheer is completely missing from the action menu (a). Where is it?

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>>17869271
Oh, it's in the Wide Skill menu (W). That's been added since the last time I played years ago.

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>>17866015
>http://ylvania.org/jp/devlog/post/16/-1-7
any moonrune anon can read this? The best word I see there is DEMO

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>>17870536

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>>17871311
konozama indeed

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>been living in the cave and saving my money to buy small castle deed to skip the smaller ones
>vernis doesn't have one
Oh that's fine.
>neither of the embassy merchants has one
What the hell?
>palmia doesn't have one
>yowyn doesn't have one
FFS I'm walking round with all my money,

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>>17871654
That's how it always is for me no matter what I want to buy at the moment. Once the thief event had stolen just enough of my money to prevent me from buying a ranch two times in a row while I was going around the continent trying to find somebody selling a deed for it.

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>>17871685
RNG can be a real bitch.
I'm just going to do trading runs bettwen Noyel and Port Kapul until I find one or have enough for palace.

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>>17871654
>>17871685
This is why are big titty cat goddess is helpful. Not only will her luck help you with fortunate random events but her lucky dagger she gives makes it so you can't lose gold to thieves. Could also get the Palmia Pride too.

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>>17871752
There's also the Begger's Pendant, but you'll probably want to wear the Twin Edge instead.
Lucky Dagger is probably the best for it since it can be wielded off-hand or as a throwing weapon and it also gives see invisible.

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>>17871776
>twin edge
This reminds me. I've had that necklace for like a year in game time, but I'm not wearing it in favor of having one that maintains stats and increases my resistances more. I'm a monk(martial artist) so while I understand the extra attacks are important, isn't having good resists just as important? I'll upload my necklace stats when I get home, but it's quite good, I think, and might outweigh the benefits of the twin edge

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>>17871821
I think I worked out months ago that if you don't have any other source of +attacks, the Twin Edge increases your average damage by about 80%.
Resisting elements is important, though, and maintaining stats saves you from having to carry stacks of blessed restore potions around with you everywhere.
Best option might be to stick with your current amulet, but keep an eye open for other gear with sustains/resistances that would let you switch to the Twin Edge.

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>>17871846
Definitely. So after gaining resists permanently from corpses was removed, how do players increase their natural resists now?

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>>17871862
Personally, I changed the materials of some of my equipment so I'd have at least "Little##" (50%) resistance to all elements. You can also load a living weapon up with resistances and use it as a throwing weapon. (Or as a melee weapon if you use ranged weapons.)

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>>17871923
That's not a bad idea.
>living weapon
I'm fairly sure they are just a myth. I'm 180 hours in with never seeing one.

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I'm to the point in the game in which I'm getting a about 300,000 per day and I've already bought a palace, should I just focus on investing in shops for potential potions and various scrolls now? Is there any point in investing in general stores and blacksmiths?
>>17871952
I've only ever found them from Lucky days at the Casino. Got a shotgun with critical hit chance and extra undead damage recently.

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How do I safely update my game again? and is there anything noteworthy since 1.69?

Also wondering if theres any in depth guide for pets anywhere thats recent. Mostly for sake of stuff thats not immediately apparent like leolds training for them and if theres anything else like that.

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>>17871862
>gaining resists permanently from corpses was removed
What? You can still get to Normal resistance from corpses. A recent update even made it guaranteed to get a resistance if the corpse grants it.

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>>17872427
He probably means creepy dream.

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>>17872498
That has always existed, and that's probably a reason for the guaranteed gains now, so that you can counter the dream. Not to mention the body pillow can now stop them from happening.

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>>17872427
I thought I read somewhere that eating fairy corpses would only temp grant you resist, and permanent for your pets. Did I misread that?

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>>17872525
I think I read that post, and the person was mistaken.

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>>17872269
I use Kai's pet guide in the pastebin. It's pretty good and covers a lot of things.

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>>17872510
The changelog says that it has a lower chance of happening, not that it's prevented outright.

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Do you need a certain body part to throw weapons and rocks? I only get the choice to throw potions and stuff

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>>17872955
You need to equip them in your throw slot

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Is there any good reason to use elona custom if you dont mind the lacking translations?

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>>17872973
It adds other QoL things as well. Honestly, it takes like 3 seconds to update to it so unless you have a very good reason not to, it definitely doesn't hurt to update

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>>17872972
what the bazinga is a throw slot?

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>>17873038
Go to your equip screen. It might be called "ranged" but it's near the bottom and it's not called ammo

[Anonymous No.]

I'm new to Elona and rolled a thief, anything I should know?
I read the OP and what skills should I get? I already got casting and weight lifting.

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>>17873038
You can equip any weapon that doesn't require ammo in the Shoot slot, which will let you throw it around as much as you want.

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>>17873058
It's "Shoot".

>>17873115
Cooking. Food gives stats. Better food gives more stats.

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>>17873115
Get all the skills. Farming/gardening, gene engineer, cooking are all pretty useful too
>>17873126
That's the one

[Anonymous No.]

Which Insan pet is the best? Or are they all equally good?

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>>17873289
*Insane book

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>>17871654
one word:
investing

>>17871776
>>17871821
im still with my blue shell and im happy with it. let my pets have the twin edge, i got enough equip slots for rez.

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>>17871776
>>17871821
I'm using Arbalast at the moment since I'm a gunner, traded away Twin Edge.
>>17873428
>investing
I'm still reasonably early in the game but I have been doing that.
Got every general merchant level 25-30, every mage at 20+, the blacksmith in port kapul and the fighter guild one at 40~. North Tyris anyway.

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>>17873115
eventually youll need all skills but for starting out
1. cooking. cooked food doesn't only give better stats, but also takes longer to rot.
2. lock picking. there are a lot of booty out there and you be you gonna need it.
3. negotiation. because money.

gardening and gene engineering can be usefull, the first because farming is a good source of various stuff while the second is if you want to give your pet skills.

there are other skills youll need depending on your playstyle. for bows and guns, marksmen. for meelee and throwing, tactics. if ou like using AoE spells, control magic. if you like throwing healing potions on your pet, alchemy. if you enjoy having rods that ont take up mana, carpentry.

>>17873447
have you ever invested the deed shops in the ambessy?
also,
invest50.

>>17871952
press 't' (use) before unloading your loot. if you got a living weapon, it will appaer as a usable item.
im pretty sure i missed living weapons in my earlier playtroughs simpy because i didn't know they even exist. it would help if the 'it is alive' would be in brown or something.

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>>17873289
Older brother if you have a lot of Roran allies. The others are about even except for the lazy older sister who is the worst.

[Anonymous No.]

I was under the impression enemies caught in sand bags would attack you, so things like the grudge draining your hunger would activate. Is this not the case anymore? I finally got a grudge in my shoe warehouse so i can spam eat and he doesn't seem to be attacking

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>>17873291
>insane book
what

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>>17873819
I don't recall enemies ever attacking while sandbagged.

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>>17873819
the proper way to use them is to let them off the sandbag and attack you, then put them back in when you're done.

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>>17873833
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Insane_book

[Anonymous No.]

What gun type is best for a sword and board warrior in E+? Should I use a type of bow as a ranged weapon instead? I'm fairly new and stupid.

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>>17873955
>http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Insane_book
when i make the wish, do i have to do so in japanease?

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>>17874157
i don't think wielding a shield is relevant for your choice of weapon. instead, yoou should consider the following:
1. in which range you gonna use your raned attack? guns are actually more powerfull on closer range where some people rather just start melee.
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Ranged_Weapons

2. does weight play a role? if you want to keep your char lightweight, guns could get in your way. its not as bad as crossbows but theyare still rather heavy. if you aim for med/heavy armor, guns weight isn't a problem.

3. notice gun use 'marksmen' skill for damage. as do bows. thrown weapons use the 'tactics' skill for damage, along with melee attacks.

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>>17874249

[Anonymous No.]

so is martial arts still the best lategame?

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>>17874342
>http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Ranged_Weapons

fuck, i completely glanced over this page and thought it was irrelevant to what i was looking for.

I'd like it to be fairly consistent from short to medium range, I doubt i'll be shooting at things beyond 6 tiles but more range obviously won't hurt. I like metal armor so i'll probably be heavy at all times.

Looking at that page, i'm torn between the snipers and the machine guns. I'll just pick up whatever of those types I can find and see which i like more- i'm not sure how much that to-hit bonus will actually matter, or how good decapitation or piercing attacks are. For the most part I just want something to kill mages, bats, and other problematic-to-melee enemies.

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>>17874503
i see, thank you

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>>17874548
i suggest grenades.
1. it train tactics so its good for melee.
2. it can confuse enemies, which gets in the way of spellcasting
3. AoE, which trains your own control magic if any ally get cought in the blast.

[Anonymous No.]

>dude lets spawn a lv 11 named NPC in puppy cave LMAO

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>>17875263
I love how the game throws curve balls at you on purpose. You can never take your safety for granted leading to a very grim world with lots of adventurers dying.

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>>17859143
Is that you Kai? What does your character sheet look like now? Also what kind of enemies or situations would you consider benchmarks of killing power? Or let me phrase it this way what do I have to kill to be considered as strong as you?

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>>17875263
>"Heh, easy moneyc"
What did he mean by this?

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>>17874544
I hope so, even though it'll be years (in game or real life I'm not sure) before I get to late game

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>>17859143
Can I see your character sheet please?

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>>17875443
With a post that long, do you have to ask if it's him?

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>>17874544
Assuming non mutant I still consider it the best for single target damage. Haven't seen anything yet to suggest otherwise. Haven't seen a mutant dual wielder put up numbers as high as my martial artist yet but I'll at least entertain the thought that it might be possible.

>>17876086
>>17875443
It is. As for enemy benchmarks I've never thought about it before but I'll give it a shot. Maybe something like this for enemies encountered in normal dungeons and places outside of the void and awakened dungeons. Keep in mind this is overly simplified.

Tier 1: putits, snails, chickens, rabbit, etc
Tier 2: goblins, yeeks, kobolds, orcs, undead, etc
Tier 3: hounds, liches, baptists, imps, and other spell/hex casting enemies.
Tier 4: North Tyris story bosses
Tier 5: North Tyris chaos fort bosses
Tier 5 cont to Tier 6: Yith creatures
Tier 7: South Tyris side quest and main quest bosses
Tier 7 cont to tier 8: God Type monsters such as element dragon, stag god, atlas, five head god
Tier 9: South Tyris chaos fort bosses
Tier 9 cont to tier 10: Most of Act 3 story bosses and side missions
Tier 11: The god's subordinates such as Arasiel, Rovid, Amurdad, Urcaguary, etc. Act 3's story bosses Tez and Ent.
Tier 12: The gods
Tier 13: The inner gods

That should cover normal things found in the game. The user created content in the mod pastebin is tier 14 to tier 15. In particular the scenario with an airship full of nukes and an army strong enough to demolish a kingdom by themselves. Also the user created nightmare crabs found in higher levels of awakened dungeons can be harder than fighting the gods themselves. If you do end up killing the gods give those user created content a try. They will truly test if your party is strong. I beat and enjoyed the user created content for the challenge they offered. Currently I'm killing enemies with capped skills, capped attributes, and capped levels in the void so that's what you would have to aim for and should answer your last question.

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>>17876666
>that unarmed damage
>you're bad at lying
on the bright side, you could punch people who disagree with so hard it would tear a hole into the fabric of reality, so that's nice

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>>17876666
Noice. List was exactly what I was looking for. I'll keep it in mind as I play. You going to play Elin and kill the gods there as well?

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>>17876742
Most likely. If the gods are actually something you can bring down into the world and attack then you better believe I'm going to find every way possible to become strong enough to kill them. Nothing against the gods though. Just want to kill them because they're strong.

[Anonymous No.]

How can I keep specifically my magic potential up? It keeps dropping into hopeless while everything else is superb, also is there any speedier way to level up crystal spear? I am spamming the magic training but the potential is a real problem.

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>>17876752
That's what I like to hear. Be sure to share your strategies then for Elin if you play it. I like your informative posts.

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>>17876794
Nothing recovers attribute potential better than blessed potions of potential. Only ways to level spells are through use, visiting magic classes and spending platinum, or now leveling them through bonus points. Got to sleep to regain back spell potential so mainly the passage of time will restore your spell potential.

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>>17876666
Oh shit so you're the one that wrote those guides I've been using. Thanks for the guides.

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>>17876666
How much time has passed ingame since you started your adventure? Is there any way to tell?

I would think the ammount of turns wouldn't be a clear indicative since you can take more turns when you have high speed, could be wrong though, I am not that familiar with the game yet.

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>>17876666
I'm pretty sure chaos fort bosses are stronger than yiths, and that there's a pretty big gap between tier 6 and 7 of your list. You forgot that Elona+ monster additions are in general much stronger than even yiths, and surely South Tyris' bosses are stronger than them. Also nice get.

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>>17876836
Look at the date in the top left, then look at your game's date.

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>>17876842
Welp, didn't think of that, thanks.

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>>17876837
I lumped some of them around North Tyris's chaos fort bosses and others maybe stronger. Like Utima is like lv 80 while the king in yellow is like lv 160. Depending on how well you deal with insanity and the off chance of meteor from them you may see them as easier or harder. There's big gaps between some of the tiers I admit but I hope to excuse myself for this due to the fact that it's a very overly simplified list. I knew from the start it would be a hard list to create simply because depending on how you play the game and what you know perceived threats can be very different between players but hey I tried.

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>>17876895
By the same logic undead can't be tier 2 when there are zombie queens and osiris.

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>>17876902
Yeah for tier 2 undead I was meaning zombies and mummies mainly. Undead can be strong but they are incredibly easy to take down if you have a good fire spell. Zombie queens and the like are no exception so I'm not sure where I'd place them.

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>>17876666
I would agree with this list. Although the power gap between subordinates and gods is huge but that isn't your fault. Just lots of training is needed before fighting a god.

[Anonymous No.]

>own ranch
>brush rabbits every day
>can't make myself kill them because scut
Rats.

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>>17877127
i thought scut meant shit, since NPCs say it when they die.

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>>17877169
the npcs tell you it means "its cute" often.

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>>17877180
right, i thought it was a 'polite' and misleading line covering what it actually means. i'm kind of sad it just means cute, i found it funnier meaning 'shit'

[Anonymous No.]

Why do people yell "it's cute" when they die?
Also what is the equivalent for "scut" in the original japanese version?

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>>17877276
Don't know if they yell but maybe as their life flashes before their eyes they see their cute little imouto smile and remark that it's cute.

[Anonymous No.]

How do you guys deal with prostitutes? Last time I was in Noyel, the werewolf that showed up immediately had killed fewer people than those pieces of shit. They wiped out most town children in just a day.

[Anonymous No.]

I walked in the embassy to pay my bills, pressed enter
I didn't notice that my pet just rushed for the fountain and made a wish prompt appear

I hate life

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>>17877635
Loli Defense Force Go! Vanquish those evil whores and project the innocent!

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>>17877635
Gather Duel Gloves and start dispensing justice.

[Anonymous No.]

Please save me from myself.
What does this mean?
It pops up after the plot dump at the start and before I can see the cave

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>>17879600
Try running in Windows 7 compatibility mode.

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>>17879616
You're a saint anon, thank you!
I'd been using SSeth's 1.69 version from his video, so I wanted to try a newer

[Anonymous No.]

anyone have a decent custom ai setup for a melee pet with cheer?

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>>17876666
How do your neighbors feel about having a world ending power next door?

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>>17880273
Dunno. Considering I pay my taxes, help out in exterminating monsters that wander into their cities, and keep to my portion of land I haven't had any visitors looking for trouble or people protesting on my front lawn.

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>>17880273
Considering his home looks like this we are terrified of are neighbor.

t.concerned Palmia citizen.

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>>17880359
Oh cmon it's not that bad. Maybe the outside looks a little evil villain lair like but I assure you the inside is quite livable and welcoming. It's not full of death traps and creatures waiting to kill you.

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>>17880415
>the inside is quite livable and welcoming. It's not full of death traps and creatures waiting to kill you
But anyone who didn't dare to visit won't know that.

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>>17880415
Please explain the moaning and howling citizens such as myself have heard in the area?

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>>17880512
Ahem, I'll talk to my party members to keep their voices down at night but anyways the howling is nothing you have to worry about. Poor Elga is just fulfilling her biological tendencies.

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Elga?

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>>17880564
Elga, a product of gene engineering, is an older dog sister that works in my home as a scientist and head of research and development. We live in the snowy north where some wolves also live. Due to this when Elga starts hearing their howling she starts getting flustered and starts awooing herself. As her employer I need to be understanding of her biological tendencies so she's free to awoo when she wants.

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>>17880587
Scut

[Anonymous No.]

my enemiess keep casting silence on me. i got jewelcrafting holy light, but is there anyway to prevent getting afflicted with silence from the getgo? keeping holyveill up all times seems a chore.

[Anonymous No.]

does 'it enhances your spells' equip attribute stack? if i have multiple equips with it would it raise my spells that much?

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>>17881315
The wiki seems to mention that magic resistance plays a role in preventing hexes from landing. Although the amount you actually need to become completely immune must be hard to achieve since I certainly am not immune to hexes and I've done a good job in stacking magic resist. In theory at least it's your magic resist vs their spell power before other things are added into the equation such as holy veil.

So you have magic resist as one source of defense. The other is as you've mentioned holy veil. You may think it's a chore keeping it up but maybe it will be less of one if you keep leveling it up. My holy veil due to leveling now lasts 1000+ turns. For my character my holy veil and magic resistance are not enough to make me immune to hexes. To combat this I've taken Jure as my character's lady and savior. Her prayer has a chance of completely removing silence from your character along with healing you. So if silence really bothers you, consider joining the Jure faithful.

>>17881327
It stacks. The enchant strength cap I think is 1,500 or around that value. The enchant doesn't increase your spell levels. Nor are its effects indicated in the spell descriptions when you press v. However, what it does do is increase spell damage and increase the duration of your buffs for instance. It's effects can be seen in your log if you do comparisons between having that enchant on your character and when you don't have it on your character.

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>>17881376
how many # can stuck up? if i have two items with #####+ how good will my spells become?

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>>17881386
If you have Custom it's best that you turn on enchant strength. Pretty much hit escape, go to UI tweaks, and turn it on. As long as you have the object of heart in your inventory you'll be able to see the exact enchant strength you have on a particular equipment.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Objet_of_heart

Before the point you have that heart it's best you just keep stacking as much as you can afford to get your hands on. It takes quite a bit of gear to get to that target 1,500 enchant cap. It's hard to tell what #####+ is exactly and how strong your spells can be without that heart. Like I have two equipment with #####+ but one has an enchant strength of 400 while another has 1,200.

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>>17881417
i see, thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

according to the wiki, in elona+ scrolls of flying reduce wight by 25% while blessed ones reduce it by only 22%. did i read this right?

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>>17881440
Maybe the writer made a mistake and had the values reversed. Blessed flying scrolls reduce weight more than normal flying scrolls.

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>>17881440
Might be confusing that vanilla Elona blessed flying reduces by 25% while Elona+ blessed flying reduces by 22%

[Anonymous No.]

>finally got capped at 2000AP from farming the void
>raised speed from 136 to 336
I almost want to say that that's cheating, but the amount of crazy the game throws at me makes me feel like i deserve this.

[Anonymous No.]

Are moongates supposed to be empty?
Is there any way to make them not empty?

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>>17881893
Now get a cute custom portrait and sprite

>>17881971
Moongates are ded, the new server a guy jerryrigged to replace official ones doesn't have the functionality of the old ones and so only chat, no moongates no player wishes etc.

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>>17881977
i can't into sprite editing. Although, I think a portrait of Celsius from Tales of Symphonia would be cool...

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>>17881979
It's really simple, read this https://pastebin.com/uAVqeTbz
download the tieba pack from the mod pastebin and give it a shot. There's many premades to pop in and use

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>>17881989
i'm assuming paint doesn't fulfill the requirement of not saving color space info?

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>>17882141
You don't need to worry about that unless your image has transparency layers or some shit, images saved in paint should work.

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>>17882153
awesome, thanks

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>>17882141
Don't know when I last used Paint, but I'm almost sure it lets you save in a format that is compatible with Elona. I think I used something like IrfanView to save compatible .BMPs without having to bother to do anything on my end. And in GIMP, you have to export your picture as a 24 bit BMP with compatibility enabled so that Elona doesn't crash.

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>>17882161
if i want to change back to my current profile here: >>17881893 do I just do face0 like one can do for reverting map icon changes?

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>>17882187
The portrait is default so will always be selectable, the sprite can be enabled by simply selecting the standard body (1 or 2), and the hair eyes etc. you had.

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>>17882195
ah, right, i see that now. time to look for a sprite. thanks for the info, anons

[Anonymous No.]

So, hardcore Elona players:

If you are after Godslayer status, how many gods have to slain? And who is your next target?

Planning on fighting Jure soon. Only beaten Itzpalt so far. Trying to get this Buster book strat that I've been planning to work...

[Anonymous No.]

Does scroll of incognito help a snail from not being detected by cleaners?

[Anonymous No.]

Hello, I'm with the Port Kapul city guard. We had some concerning reports about your relationship with this little girl. The Innkeeper heard you refer to her as your "pet"?

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>>17883229
Don't worry I fed her well and I've toughened her up so she doesn't mind me riding her.

[Anonymous No.]

Sorta new guy here but what are some good race/class builds i can do that isnt listed in the pastebin?

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>>17881417
Alright Kai how did you manage to get enhance spells on mighty arms? Is it an rng chance to find it on the arms? My arms don't have it.

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>>17882276
Well technically the game tells you that you're the godslayer once you kill any of the inner gods. Most of the godslayers that have come before me including myself took it upon themselves to kill all the gods and their inner forms. While each god may vary a bit in difficulty, if you can kill one inner god you can kill all of them. Or at the very least, it's not long before you can once you've reached that amount of power.

The first three gods/inner gods I took out were Opatos, Itzpalt, and Ehekatl since their inner god weapons help out melee and and spellcasting damage. I took out Opatos first since the godslayers before me said he was a nightmare for melee characters and I wanted to see which would break first. My fists or the mountain of muscle known as Opatos.

>>17883831
Artifact fusion. It's a feature that becomes available in Act 3 once you finish a quest chain. Once you have artifact fusion available you can start adding enhance spells to any piece of equipment you want among other useful stuff. It's at that time that you can truly start crafting the perfect set of armor for yourself and your pets.

[Anonymous No.]

Anycase anyone was curious, immunity to hexes should be gotten in one of two ways:

Magic resist 3x the spell power of the hex or holy veil at 2.5x the spell power. These don't stack for immunity, though they would stack for resistance.

Assuming it is casted at 2000 cast, spell power of the hex should be 12,010.

To counter that you'd need 36,030 magic resist, or a holy veil of level -50, /10, * 2.5 = 2,990.

With 1.5x spell enhance you'll get there with a lv1,994 holy veil. Or with artifact fusion, you'd somehow need 451 total ether mirrors to get enough magic resist.

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>>17884108
Cool. Thanks for looking into that. Definitely explains my difficulties with hexes in the void.

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>>17882276
Lurker here.
Killed all of them.

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>>17884166
Actually, I calculated the magic enhance wrong, it would cap at 2x not 1.5x, right? (the wiki is a bit confusing, since it says the cap is 2x, but the enchant strength caps at 1,500 or 2.5x) So you'd only need about 1500 holy veil, less with magic equip. It might be possible to reach without too much pain.

Assuming the npc casting doesn't have magic enhance, of course.

[Anonymous No.]

Looking into the status effects, anno has a comment saying you'd need 500 sound to be immune to most normal sources of dim. (2500 for perfect immunity). Assuming that holds for the other elements, and reports on fire resistenc of 400 being enough to prevent most burned gear seems to match that, than you don't need more than 500 resist for the elements.

With 2x magic enhance attribute shield would need to be LV 420 to reach that goal.

Magic resist is mostly useless endgame for hex prevention (12,000 magic resist would give you *maybe* a 25% chance to avoid a max power hex -> (12,000/2 vs 0 - 12,000 * 2 = 6,000 vs 0-24,000)), so you'd probably only need 500 for that too, to reduce damage. The rest of your artifact fusioning should be on more useful stuff.

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>>17884774
So 500 in any/every resist and leave it at that and move onto other things? Is additional attacks something that can be added?

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>>17884931

Yep, and since many status effects can be resisted directly for only 100 fusion pts, it might be better to go for those where applicable, and rely on magic resist for defense. 800 magic resist should block almost 90% of elemental damage.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Artifact_fusion
For all the effects.

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>>17885104
*almost 80% of elemental damage. Not 90%.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't understand why this happened but all I know is I wanna die

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>>17885472
That's the worst. If I could give you one of my three happy beds I would. I only wished for one

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>>17885852
I actually have three happy beds too, I was just trying to make one of them lighter so I wasn't always breaking my back carrying it around.
That'll teach me to expect nice things I guess.

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>>17885921
Of course. It's elona, why would nice things be given to you? You need to tear them from the jaws of some demon or god or yeek lord.

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>>17885921
Just change their material. Read a bunch of inferior material scrolls and you'll get a paper bed.

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>>17885934
WAIT FUCK WHAT
I'm retarded, oh my god. Thanks anon.

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>>17885954
Careful, I think it can burn unless you give it fire proof

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>>17885954
By the way, magic shops will sometimes sell a flying scroll if their rank is high enough.

>>17885974
So do beds without a specific material.

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>>17885980
I thought things like emerald, diamond, whatever other metals were immune? I just leave mine at home or in a storage house depending on the continent

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>>17885988
Yeah, I mean normal beds burn just as well as paper beds. I learned that lesson the same day I learned about Halloween kids.

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>>17885980
>>17885974
Good to know, thanks anons
Now to watch while it gets destroyed in acid

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>>17886001
Was that you a few threads ago? Fun times, sorry it was at your expense, if that was you.

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>>17886010
>imporves your evasion skill
You should stockpile acid/fireproof when the show up and you have spare cash

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>>17885974
>>17886010
I remember buying a music instrument made of silk, and after I burned through all inferior scrolls required to make it paper again (it was early game, so no scroll of change material to speed it up), it ended up being both fire- and acidproof. Never actually tried it again to see if that's normal for other pieces of furniture, but it might be worth to keep it in mind if those properties actually don't get removed if you change materials.

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>>17886030
Oh yeah, they don't lose them. Perfect for anything that isn't living, godly or static.

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>>17886298

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>>17885472
Figured out what went wrong for those who've never wished for scrolls of flying before:
They are in fact called "Flying Scrolls" instead.
Don't be a retard like me.
On the bright side, my stupid vendor finally had one, so it all worked out okay.

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>>17886011
No, what happened to me was similar but it was long ago.

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>>17886298
Where did you even get that?
I'd spend my days in fear if I lived in a world where trampling on a fucking stone can cause such monumental chaos.

[Anonymous No.]

Im thinking of making a farmer that gradually goes from a passive farming folkman to a murderous hooded individual that kills with scythes

Can anyone help me fill out what general skills i should start and focus on?

Im a bit new and i wanna make sure i don't fuck up anything too badly

[Anonymous No.]

So I just realized that the predator class might be better for monk than warrior. If I'm understanding this correctly, the business card will give me the feat from predator that I want without needing to reroll my character?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17887186
Just start out with a scythe and pledge your allegiance to the god of harvest

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>>17887823
^^^
As this guy says.
Also, remember to try to aim for Kumoromi's statue. It's probably the best item for farmers in the game considering it's a seed generator.
As for combat, you can either go Charistma to be the god-commander of bloody everything (and have someone run the shop and barn for you) or go solo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17887186
>>17887823
>>17889235
Or you could be an animal herder.
Weild a staff pump charsima and have an army of chickens, sheep cattle, rabbits, sheep dogs....

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>>17876666
>>17876752
How goes the void? How deep are you now? what are your thoughts on Elin and what do you make of its system so far?

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>>17889268
Remember to arm said farm animals with guns and ammo if possible!

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>>17887698
Type "predator" without quotes and it'll probably work.

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>>17889561
Floor 6,410 now. Close to my goal although what's been slowing me down is seeing to it that my pets can survive down there. Their damage output is good but they can get hurt pretty bad by the enemies down there. So I'm currently farming stuff to better their gear and life.

What do you mean by system for Elin? I do have some observations in general about the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17889984
You've watched the videos right? Have you been able to see anything that deals with game mechanics? also what opinions do you have of the game? going to cont the Kai legacy in elin?

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>>17890061
Lafrontier youtube videos right? I Have high hopes for the game but I'm not going to be expecting much from the alpha simply because it's alpha. At the very least, if Noa does indeed release an alpha it would be a good opportunity to see what the game mechanics are like. I guess I can continue Kai's legacy in Elin so sure why not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhGTMGc0gnI

0:05: Interface is pretty easy to understand although there are some questions as to what things are referring to. Bottom left status conditions, portrait, health, moral bar?, and three resources. In the latest video we don't see this moral bar. Top right is a clock and below that is a quest tracker system. Bottom middle is the log and to the right is some hotkeys. 0:41: Looks like you can give gifts to people to raise their affection. Riding looking cool. It looks like there's speech bubbles and full blown speech windows which is shown in later videos. 1:25 The currency is Oren. He has a lot of items in his backpack. The window that provides details for these items shows things like description and weight but what I don't understand is why does it show skills and attributes with a number assigned to them? Is it implying that these skills and attributes somehow work with these items or are they affecting the skills/attributes? Why is the mining skill listed under the item coffee for a value of 8? 1:27: Very briefly you see what the character sheet looks like. Looks like attribute potential exists in Elin as well. Alias seems to exist in Elin too. Under summary and notes there's a section got skills and that character currently has just three skills listed. Makes me wonder just how many skills are in the game. Maybe the ones listed are primary skills or something to that effect?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmdBiiXzjhM

0:05 Wow it gets really dark at night. Better have some light sources because your field of vision is really limited. Liking the night/day cycle and weather effects. 1:25 NPCs in town seem may have some sort of day routine. One enters the bar and another one is goes to chop a tree. 1:30 Even interiors can be really dark without a light source. 4:21 So the PCCs in Elin look very familiar to Rpgmaker's and Elona's. If it's possible, how easy it will be to create new sprites or port the current sprites we have in Elona into Elin with some editing? 6:10 Liking how big enemies can be intimidatingly big. If I can fight the gods in this game I want it to be like David vs Goliath.
7:35: Looks like there's going to be some sort of overworld map like there is Elona.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAkl0dgaJfk

0:02: There's that familiar HP, MP, and perhaps stamina bar. Also got your gold and platinum. Like how you have portraits of your character and party members. 0:47: So under abilities this character has 3 arcane abilities and 2 survival related abilities. 1:05: Spells and long distance attacks appear to be similar to Elona. Sight range seems to be 6.

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>>17890457
I thought Elin wouldn't even have combat.

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>>17867831
Did you change the "PCC show" option? That might be the problem.

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>>17890457
I think the inanimate sprites are just placeholders.

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>>17890551
Most likely. Speaking of large enemies I'm a bit intimidated by that large putit trying to hide behind the tree at 1:39. If that thing really does have a bouncing animation it makes me wonder if certain creatures can vary in size.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAkl0dgaJfk

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>>17890457
That last video looks like a completely dfferent game compared to the others, it is also clearly turn based just like elona, unlike in the other videos, where npcs move even while the player is inactive.

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>>17890981
Yeah it's definitely interesting seeing how the game has changed since the first video put up.

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>>17891007
Yeah, but the last one is a huge change from the one that comes right before it, and it's been posted only after three months.

The last video, simply named "elin" looks just like elona, I'd even go as far as to say that to me it seems like a remake or sequel, hell even if you look in the video information it lists elona, unlike all other elin videos uploaded.

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>>17890981
>it is also clearly turn based just like elona, unlike in the other videos, where npcs move even while the player is inactive.
That doesn't appear to be the case to me, rather, enemies get occasional turns as you idle and move much faster when you are moving.
>>17891058
>I'd even go as far as to say that to me it seems like a remake or sequel
I do agree with this, and I'm curious if noa will retract the claim that it's not a sequel.

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>>17891058
>>17891132
Think the last I heard the world was supposed to be a prequel but considering everything is still in development who knows what the story and world will be like in the end. All I know is that there are a lot of familiar faces represented in the videos so far. Some of the gods in the videos I've seen in the videos I linked to are Opatos, Jure, and Lulwy. Wonder if the others are present. I did see a comment about Elin a long time ago in these threads that Eyth is supposed to be in there and that there's supposed to be a new goddess that we haven't seen in Elona/Elona+.

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>>17891264
It's the 150cm womanlet goddess who lives in Larna.

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>>17891264

what would a god of nothing look like and do?

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>>17891264
In D&D cosmology, the overgod Ao made it so deities are reliant on mortals, and without anyone believing in them they'd be powerless and pass away. At the same time the gods quite literally keep the world running: if they died their domains would get fucked up (e.g. magic god gone, magic stops functioning/nature god dies, forests wither). All this gives the pantheon a strong incentive to not let any mortals be faithless. That's why when mortals die without believing, they're stuffed in a wall on the fugue plane until they are absorbed into it. A horrid fate to deter mortals from being fedoras, in order to keep everything in order. Even if that weren't the case you'd expect this kind of thing from any self-respecting pantheon.

Now back to Elona. If everyone who doesn't believe just gets auto-assigned to Eyth, and Eyth was a real deity, that'd bypass this whole idea. And you'd think they'd have lots of ''followers''. But the other gods would definitely be opposed to them.

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trick or treat... should I?

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>>17893128
Treat obviously

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>>17893128
DO IT.

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>>17893138
im not gonna molest the girl. im just asking if i should give her the caramel of termination or go for the more normal candies.

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>>17893163
i did it but... she didnt eat it.

probably will eat it later at her own home.

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>>17893172
Better to blow up her house then for her to blow up yours for not giving her anything.

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>>17892286
He's been depicted as a child, a flame, or just nothing in the artwork I've seen so far. Although the concept art that I put up shows what he'd look like as an adult. As far as what he's doing, that's unknown assuming he's still alive. His faith is definitely in decline seeing as how there isn't any specific altar dedicated to him. He doesn't seem to provide his followers with any powers or boons like the other gods. The wiki does make mention though that if you're a follower of Eyth and place a bottle of water on an unclaimed altar that it will be blessed. Some say this is the only thing Eyth is doing for his followers and may suggest he's still alive.

The gods seem to follow the format of name of 'domain'. Such as Itzpalt of the Elements, Jure of Healing, Kumiromi of Harvest, etc. Eyth is the god of Infidels which puts him as the god of those who don't worship the other mainstream gods. Considering the god wars really screwed up who had what domains it makes me wonder if Eyth had a domain before he just became this god for infidels. What also strikes me as strange is the fact that none of the gods particularly hate Eyth.

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>>17892286

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>>17892286
>what would a god of nothing look like and do?
hikikomori. i always thought he would like an everyday neet with shabby outfit, no special features to tell him from humans, and the only friend he got among other gods would be mani who he would play vidya from tme to time.

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New to Elona and what tilesets are there and which ones are good?
I'm using 1.73.1

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>>17883677
Golem warmage with riding is the ultimate easy mode. Buy a gun. Buy a horse. Don't go in the puppy cave until lvl5. Run away if you're not steamtolling. Close fights are for scrubs.

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Is Miyana (author of that awesome custom NPC pack at http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Miyana/Miyana%27s_Custom_NPCs ) still around? I don't suppose there's the .txt sources for those NPCs, but one can always hope (the readme doesn't give full details about some of the monsters)...

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how can i make my character screen to host full body portrait?

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>>17896846
You'll have to do some image editing. The files you want are ie_sheet.bmp and interface.bmp, all in the graphic folder.

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>>17896846
>>17897610
Forgot to mention you need to black out the portrait box in interface.bmp if you want it gone, which you probably do.

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tfw your little sister's mortality rates skyrocket the instant she meets you
tfw you equip her with a sword and send her to fight acid spitting slimes
tfw you let her drink well water and get pregnant with alien babies
tfw you're probably the worst thing to ever happen to her life

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>>17898529
>spend all your time with her
>become a successful couple
>marry her
>give her your **evolution** heart
>evolves into Valkyrie THOT
>leaves you for Opatos

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>>17898529
'Little sisters' are magically constructed, gene-engineered flesh golems. their 'love' for you comes from magic parasites analogous to toxoplasma. Also you can find the summoning books practically lying on the ground every second nefia you visit. I bet the ancients used them as disposable living onaholes.

Caring this much about their well-being is just sick and unnatural.

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>>17896846
That's really neat, actually. Is it tacky to use an existing character from an established series?

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>>17898600
>Won't be as loyal as your alien daughter when you give birth to her
>Won't go slaughter an entire town with you in daughter/mother quality time
>Doesn't complain about constant little brother/sisters coming into the family
Aliens were truly master race.

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>>17898600
>little sister
>valkyrie
Maybe she left you because you were creeping her the fuck out with your imouto fetish.

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People please, get your shit together.
You are thinking of little girls and younger sisters, but not one of you seems to be talking about little sisters.

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Has anyone managed to set up gamepad support with a steam controller? I can't seem to set the inputs.

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>>17898529
tfw i pair her with one of my stronger pets to keep her protected
tfw she actually prefers ranged attacks
tfw i always have bottles of dye in my home potion rack
tfw... oh wait you are talking younger sister right? how many equip slots can they sprout? i changed mine class to gunner so she may attack twice with her living skullbow

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>>17900230
derp. i know younger sisters dont sprout equip slots, only little sisters do that. my younger sister been trned to yandere sis back when my evo was still rare and is now working at my shop.

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old joke i know.

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So, how do I go about adding floors to a palace? I read that you can have multiple floors and gods that you invite stay on the "first floor". But nothing mentions how to add floors or build stairs.

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>>17899951
Let's talk about little sisters then. I like their hair.

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>>17900352
buy stairs. you can get them from festivals shops.
make sure to buy both upstairs and downstairs.

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>>17900464
Thanks senpai

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>>17899951
Little Sisters are like Younger Sisters except their parasites have mutated beyond all recognition. It might even have been intentional, idunno. I hear their meat is delicious. Maybe the ancients like onaholes with six arms and three twats once in a while.

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What do you do in this game?

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>>17900743
i don't know where to even begin.
basicly we kill monsters and save the world, but there is so much more content to it than that. tell me what you want to do, and ill tell you if its feasible in elona. from running a store, having a ranch full of little girls, slaying gods, living in castle, owning a musuem full of statues of monsters you have slain, killing enemies by throwing panties at them, nuking cities you don't like, riding a dinosaur from place to place while weilding a living lightsaber... tell me what you want to do and ill tell you how to do it in elona.

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one of these days someone will say Hello back to me right

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>>17900743
go into every town and destroy them with meteors

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>>17900743
I've done a lot of dying. All of it my fault but having fun though.

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>buildion
how do i deal with those guys?

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>>17900885
if the servers ever come back up.

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>>17901142
Carry rods of change creature.
Don't be in melee range.
I'm not certain, but I think their smash is a breath attack that deals magic damage, so get more magic resistance.

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>>17900885
Inb4:
"Hello"
"Stfu nerd"

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>>17900248
Are those stats average for level 62?

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>>17900801
>having a ranch full of little girls
How does this work?

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>>17902708
It depends on what you've spent your time doing, I had a character that focused on herb farming before the fairy was nerfed. I made loads of infused herbs and had a lot of blessed potential potions, all of my stats were over 200 by level 70. Its hard to say what the average is in this game. Not sure how or why he got 121 faith at that level though.

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>>17902708
It's the wrong way to think about it. Think of level as an extra stat like Strength. Some people have high level relative to other stats, some people have low. It depends on priorities.

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>>17902713
Let one girl stay at your otherwise completely empty ranch, and she will lay eggs, produce milk and give birth to offspring.

It's like you never owned a farm before.

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I've drunk three potions of of cure mutation and each time it said 'nothing happens', is that just bad luck or is something else wrong?
I got them via a dream if it makes any difference.

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>>17903584
Do you have something that protects you from mutations equipped? I'm not sure, but I think removing a mutation just counts as a "reverse" mutation, since you can get them from the same dream.

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>>17903602
Nope nothing like that.

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>>17903584
make sure you're not drinking potions of cure corruption. you need potions of cure mutation.

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>>17903813
I was. Unequipped all my gear then it worked even though nothing said it prevented mutation or anything like that.

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>>17903919
Maybe you have something with a ton of effects, and so the line that the item prevents mutations is on the second page?

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>>17904034
Nope checked that too, only odd thing is I get float from two items but I don't see how that would do it.

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So say if I want to make a weapon like for long swords or scythes to be as powerful as possible, how would I go about it? Should I focus on getting a living weapon and power leveling it with the stats or would I be better off just finding a godly relic that has good stats? Also, how does the artifact fusion work into this?

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Is it normal for Yurele Warriors to start out with a fucking boulder as their ranged weapon?

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>>17904185
You can either go the living weapon route or the artifact fusion route if you want to maximize damage. Regardless of what path you take, speaking for myself at least, have found that stacking one element of your choice to be the best way to add damage to your attacks. Not adding attributes or using up enchant capacity or living weapon levels for plus bonuses. If you're a dual wielder then you may want to stack one invoke instead of elemental damage.

I went with a living weapon and stacked magic damage for 10 levels. Decided to stop leveling there so I wouldn't have to worry about the living weapon bleeding me. If I were to go the artifact fusion route I could achieve similar results by collecting scrolls of gain attribute to artifact fuse tears of god jewels to a godly weapon for magic damage. The secondary damage of the element you choose or invoke can be a huge help in driving up your total damage. For me I'm slashing at around 450k, indicated in green, and each slash I do is accompanied by almost 400k of magic damage indicated in blue.

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>>17904452
>adventure yesterday
That's actually a pretty cool name for a weapon.

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Maybe I should come some other time...

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>>17904503
>complete 'I want it' quest
>item is rotten
>guy eats it then dies of food poisoning
>'please... spare me!'
>-1 karma

[Anonymous No.]

...I think I'll start working on my throwing skill now.

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Some sort of fire mage and asura attacked the beginner city and now it's burning to the ground, Am I fucked?

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>>17905097
Asura is a low level enemy, so the other guy must be red baptist, another easy opponent. I think the town guards are strong enough to deal with them.

However, you are royally screwed if either of them gets anywhere near the guy who hangs around the cemetery.

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What are the chances of getting a dream that will give you the Statue of your God?

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>>17904452
How did you gain over a thousand levels in only three days?

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>>17906088
Drinking blessed potions of descent probably.

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>>17905591
Whom dwells in the vanity?
He's dead in my one is that bad?

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>>17906088
I've had 22 spellbooks of wish in storage for awhile now. Decided it was finally time to read them and get wish spell stock. I've already capped my casting skill and my chance for casting wish remains at 100%. Used all my wishes on potions of descent which I blessed for levels. One spellbook of wish can grant me anywhere from 30 to 60 potions of descent so I had a massive infusion of levels and bonus skill points recently.

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>>17905866
Only statue you can get in a dream that I know of is Ehekatl. The others you find as quest rewards or at locations like the statue of Yacatect is in the maid mansion. Getting Ehekatl's statue is a rare thing that may occur while dreaming. Wiki says it's a 1/10,000 chance. Even though it's rare it's possible to get multiple statues of Ehekatl through the course of your adventure through dreams.

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>>17906679
He's kind of a loose cannon, it's better he stays dead until there's no enemies.

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>>17906875
He doesn't respawn, and I doubt this has changed recently.

>>17906679
If he was defused with no losses then the only problem is that you may have missed the artifact that he carries. I think he still shows up in party quests, though.

[Anonymous No.]

Got this recently, how should I level it? Small amounts of every damage type, pump it all into magic damage or something else?
>>17906763
Whats the optimal way of leveling casting quickly?

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>>17907095
No I picked up the sword that ends all, got my defender using it.

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>>17907132
You are in for a surprise

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>>17907147
A pleasent suprise?

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>>17907170

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>>17902708
By yacatect, no. I'm 55 and my will and learning are both lower than those, but my other stats are all higher. Don't stress about comparing your character to others unless they're running the same build/setup as you. Even then though, each character is different

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>>17907170

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>>17907181
>>17907203
Okay then I'll just put that away somewhere safe.

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>>17907102
Spam oracle.

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>>17905591
Yeah the mage in the shop must've summoned it while she was reading or something the entire city burnt down but it somehow respawned good as new what a neat experience

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>>17859978
>>17860031
What the fuck is this game? I remember seeing this mentioned on /vg/'s roguelike general but why are nukes and magical girls in the same video game?

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>>17907702
You throw panties at people until they go insane and kill themselves. It's a wild adventure

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>>17907702
It's... A work of art in terms of how stupendous it is.
At first, you feel like you walked into a regular world. That's until the tutorial guy makes you eat a hobo's corpse.

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>>17907702
This game is a giant melting pot of sillyness and wonder.

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>>17907702
Magical girls are your pets and you can throw them into a ranch so they reproduce asexually, then kill their children in hopes they drop a soup that transforms you into a loli.

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>>17907776
>tfw no lewd prostitution mods

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>>17907776
All that soup does is change your weight and height, it doesn't even affect your age. You can achieve better results with green tea and cursed milk.

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>>17908030
make them, then

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>>17907702

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>>17908097
It changes your height and weight to approach those of a loli.

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>>17904573
Still got paid right? Not sure I see the problem.

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>>17907776
>so they reproduce asexually

not so, anon. while you're away from the ranch, wandering monsters come and impregnate them.

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>>17908447
>tfw no elona mods where i can get ntr'd by travelers visiting the ranch when i'm not around

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>>17908526
Now that the old moongate system is gone, I think the modmakers should make moongates lead to ranches of other players, where you can impregnate the local lolis and/or cows. Then your offspring gets slaughtered for meat / impregnated by other players.

[Anonymous No.]

how do I make these dumb guild trainers leave, they've been squatting at my house for two months

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>>17908716
Really? Mine are usually gone within the week. Are you sure you're just not getting them over and over? You could try changing guilds to see if that kicks them out

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>>17908716
it's a recurring bug. I remember Ano fixing it several times.

They'll be gone by the next patch, probably. Alternatively I suppose you could buy a new house.

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>>17908447
Now you've done it. That was the open secret no one dared to mention!

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>>17908716
It happens, I've had it happen a lot but eventually (could be a week could be months) they leave. Recently guards have been given the functionality to be able to kick unwanted guests from your home, so if it really bothers you (temporarily) hire one.

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>finally save up enough to buy a second floor for my palace!
>remember to buy both upstairs and downstairs because I am a smart motherfucker
>imma put the upstairs right here
>imma put the downstairs right next to it so it's convenient
>let's head upstairs and check out the new floor
>...

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>>17909237
It's been 3 years and I still do this every time. I never learn.

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>>17908716
Use a guard