Umineko

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So now another year's gone by without me organizing a "Family Conference" night at my house on Oct 4th - 5th. Always wanted to have a dinner party with plenty of German riesling wine and some murder mysteries/logic puzzles in the parlor for entertainment. Next year it is, then.

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Is this a murder confession..

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>>17725115
so long seacats

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Anyone remembers which cover is this from?

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>>17725602
Some very Grand Blue faces here.

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I hope I am not a faggot for asking so I will spoiler text it Instead of replaying through the series again after playing it fairly recently, I want to watch some people who never played it before and go through it with commentary, are there any decent vid series of this?

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>>17729880
You got it backwards.

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>>17729767
Just check all the post EP4 covers and you will find it.

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>>17732070
Narnith's playthrough is the gold standard, I'm watching it right now

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>>17732070
lots of people doing blind runs of Umineko nowadays. it became my hobby watching them desu

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>>17732671
>>17733305
Thanks for the replies. I will give Narnith a shot and I am already watching someone on-going go though a blind playthrough and I do want to see more peoples blind thoughts while playing it game, it's really enjoyable.

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I just realized that I forgot all about Umineko day.

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>>17732070
Jokrono is decent, but I would understand if you turned it down because of the oh-so-wacky voices they use in the beginning. Once things get serious, they start to tone down a little. And since the one going in blind is editing the videos and practically experiencing the Question Arc a second time, he's on the right track to figuring out the truth. So far, the videos are up to the early parts of Episode 2, but they already wrapped up Episode 3 as of now.
It's a playthrough done by two people, one that's read the whole thing before and one that's never read it before. The one that's read it helps guide and explain things a little, while trying to avoid outright spoiling things and keeping things ambiguous. I think it's worth giving a chance, the one that hasn't read it makes amusing comments from time to time that he doesn't realize is actually what's going on.

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>>17733318
Don't worry, you didn't miss much.

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>>17733551
I am watching Jokrono right now, have been since their first episode. Reading their posts on Rokkenjima and their unlisted video, I can't believe the new person has already discovered both the culprit and solved the epitaph and he hasn't finished episode 4 yet.

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So.

WTC 5.

When.

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is there any japanese opinions on rosatrice?

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>>17732070
Narnith is objectively the best of blind playthroughs, but he frequently fell short on his quest to the truth. He had deep thoughts and tried his best, but he didn't quite succeed. He's still the best.

Newt3102 strangely succeed, but the guy himself is often obnoxious and doesn't get the characters. Still, the fucker is ridiculously close to the truth and getting closer every days. Too close - he's so obnoxious I wonder if he is not cheating somehow.

Jokrono is good. Fun. Very fun.

The others were mostly made by stupid people and need not be mentioned.

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>>17736561
They cry?

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>>17736618
No. Ryukishi didn't even know it was a theory when someone in America asked about it.

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anon

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>>17732070
Jesus, this is the faggiest post I have ever seen in my short life. Literal faggotron.

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>>17738226
I thought Narnith did decent when it came to the truth. But I agree Newt is much closer.

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>>17738226
Honestly people have been helping Newt a little too much in his Discord channel. I don't remember how much people talked with Narnith but it was a lot less.

Fucking Newt got Shkannon like 1/3 through ep3.

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>>17738514
beato

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>>17739193
ANON

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Ok i just finished playing through the game and there's still something that i'm confused about, but can erika actually exist outside of the game board and meta world?
I'm pretty sure she can't but i'm not confident in myself enough to believe that

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>>17739344
She drowned IRL, but she is probably "real" in the sea of fragments

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>>17738782
Jokrono solved both the epitaph and got Shkannon halfway through episode 3 as well.

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>>17739222
BEATO

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>>17736561
Never.

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>>17738514
>>17739222
>>17739648

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>>17733318
I thought it was on the 23rd-24th of October instead, so it snuck past me. I know, I gotta step up my game.

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>>17725115
guys, is that true that both Higurashi and Umineko are badly written in Japanese (like nearly every other VN ever)?

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Can anybody post that beautiful Golden Land wallpaper that's posted nearly every thread. I'd love to save it and can't find it

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>>17743297
I'm guessing you mean this one? sorry, I couldn't find a bigger version.

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>>17743074
As the super coolest ancient japanese excellence expert translator that I am, and surely not just a dumb-dumb who use Google Translator, yes. It's pretty much kindergarten level.

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>>17734568
I finally got around to checking out the video. It would be suspicious but he really shows his work toward deciphering the epitaph. Now I'm just curious what his thoughts and reactions will be when he starts Chiru. This dedication to solving the epitaph seems like it is proof that he's really getting into Umineko, so I'm glad for that and look forward to seeing the rest of their playthrough.

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Where can I commission the Beatrice portrait?

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>>17744248
paint it yourself

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>>17744273
post the full image

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>>17743569
>>17744150
Thanks so much to both of you

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>>17744367
I don't have it and I can't find it, unfortunately

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>>17743074
Badly written perhaps, but Umineko in particular is notorious for the variety of kanji used. Umineko is in the top 5 for kanji variety and obscurity in a visual novel.

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>>17745576
>Umineko is in the top 5 for kanji variety and obscurity in a visual novel.
Probably because of the Western sounding names of the family, if I had to guess.

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>>17745576
>Umineko is in the top 5 for kanji variety and obscurity in a visual novel.
Any source for that?

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>>17746204
Read it.

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"yawn" boring thread
>>17744516
You're welcome. Now give me my reward!

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>>17745576
>Umineko is in the top 5 for kanji variety and obscurity
This isn't true at all. Umineko has 2468 unique kanji, which is fairly high, but not nearly top 5

https://tlwiki.org/index.php?title=VN/Eroge_Script_sizes

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Hotarubi chapter 16 is out
https://mega.nz/#F!OJU2HYgB!-lbNfZS31EUf2QXDKB8I2A

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>>17747279
I thought it was fully translated. If not, how many chapters are left? Since I don't want to read a manga that it's not finished just to wait afterwards.

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>>17747308
The translation is at chapter 8. 16 is the latest chapter obviously

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>>17747321
Oh okay I didn't know, thanks. I'll wait and read it when it's finished then.

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>>17746802
Yeah that was the chart I was referencing to. Looks like the chart has become larger over these few years. I stand corrected.

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>>17746802
>2468
That's only the first four games though because if you scroll down you'll see chiru has it's own entry.
http://gaming.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_longest_video_game_scripts
This site lists all 8 games together if you scroll down to series but doesn't have unique kanji count.

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>>17745576
Are you pulling that out of your ass dude? Umineko doesn't even come close to the top 5.

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>>17750190
Naaaa... What are the odds that an obnoxious Umineko fan invent bullshit to praise his favourite piece of shit?

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>>17745576
What's the point of doing a top 5 or whatever about kanji really?

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>>17751153
Doesn't seem like praise to me, especially when using the word "notorious" and acknowledging that it could be badly written in the original Japanese script.

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>>17751708
Didn't he said that it was Higurashi that was badly written and that Umineko just used a lot of kanjis?

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>>17751731
He clarified that Umineko has a lot of unique Kanji used, but he didn't deny it as being badly written because of that.

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>>17751748
So it's trash, okay. At least he's realistic about it instead of being deluded like most uminekofags.
I still remember the one that kept talking about it as it was the best thing in the world ever. It would be hilarious if it wasn't sad.

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Extremely important question that needs answer here >>17751410
>>17751827
You already admitted that it was a joke before, anon. No one is going to fail this time.

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>>17751827
If that's what you're going to take from it, okay. Whether or not Umineko is poorly written, I still really enjoyed it and had a lot of fun.

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>>17751840
>everyone I don't like is the same guy
Okay.

>>17751860
Good for you. Good to know that people can have shit taste.
Stay away from me, I don't want your shitty taste to infect me.

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>>17751867
Uh-huh. I'm very proud of my intuition and I'm sure you're the same moron, but okay.

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>>17751867
In your face, nerd.

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MangaGamer gives updates on their projects every two weeks, and the next update should be coming in two days.
Hopefully we hear something about Higurashi or Umineko/Golden Fantasia this month. We haven't heard anything about Higurashi's remaining episodes for a long while, and Umineko Chiru was announced to be in testing last month. I still think Golden Fantasia will only be released next year, but I would like to be surprised.

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>>17751912
>Higurashi's remaining episodes
Are not they busy with other projects at the moment?

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>>17751948
I have no idea how large their team is or how it functions, but they released two episodes per year so far for Higurashi and this is the point where we would hear something about the next one. Translation and editing has been complete for it for months now, all that should be left is testing.
And earlier this year I read from one of their staff about trying to get as much of the episodes of it ready and released by the end of this year, but I can't remember the source of it unless they deleted it, so just take it as a rumor for now.

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>>17751977
>I can't remember the source of it
Here you go. Doesn't look like they'll make it at this rate though
https://curiouscat.me/Kouryuu/post/91432897?t=1485560814

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>>17752090
Thank you, so I wasn't imagining it.That was posted in January, and in May we got an update about the remaining Kai episodes. As long as we get something real soon, I'll be happy, it doesn't have to be all of Kai.
https://twitter.com/MangaGamer/status/863121136678301696

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>>17743074
Nah, japanese reader in here.
The way Umineko is written is your overall novel level in Japan, not average, but not amazing. it's just overall pretty good.

Then there's the vocabulary usage, that one is in my opinion slightly inferior to Nisio Isin's (but still actually fairly complex vocabulary overall). Making this comparison in particular as both publish long running book series in Kodansha Box together for more than 10 years now.

What gains Umineko way more points however is neither of these, but just how absolutely complex and well thought his whole narrative structure and meta planning is.

Ryukishi may be just pretty good in terms of grammar usage and also just fairly complex with his vocabulary, but his skills as a writer only really shows up in that particular aspect.

I don't think I've read any book from any Japanese author thus far who has even half of that absurd writing ability of Ryukishi's when it comes to this.

But yeah, that's about it.
Grammar-wise he is nothing special, but at least he doesn't purple prose like those well praised chuunige nowadays (Masada Takashi's gratuitous constant use of kyuujitai and "poetic" prose comes to mind, and so does many parts of Nasu's work).

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>>17752384
To close this topic, I will also add this:

If you want the best visual novel writer in terms of grammar and vocabulary complexity and usage, Mareni would be my best bet:

https://vndb.org/s93

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>>17752384
>at least he doesn't purple prose like those well praised chuunige
To be fair, I think purple prose is part of the appeal of chuunige. Many people like me enjoy stuff like that just because of how grandiose it is

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>>17752384
I'm curious. If you read it, what do you think about the translation of the Steam version in comparison to the original. I've heard that is a much closer, faithful translation than the ps3 version, but yeah, no idea about japanese here.

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>>17752450
Fair point, it really is part of the fun for most of the japanese readers as well, including myself, but I must be fair with literary criticism while making this point, I hope it doesn't come too hypocritical from me.

>>17752452
Sorry, I didn't quite had the opportunity of reading the Steam translation yet, so I cannot opine.

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>>17752482
No worries, I imagined that would be the case. There's no loss in asking, thanks anyway.

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PROTECC THE DRAGONKNIGHT SMILE

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>>17752638
What about that other smile?

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>>17752752
:3

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>>17752638
He always looks so awkward.
He's like the japanese Harold.

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>>17753092
He's autistic.

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>>17751912
Yeah, I hope Chiru comes out soon. I want to do a re-read of Umineko in the cozy Fall months.

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>>17754208
Uu~?

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>>17754208
Honestly, no offence, I think he really is. Someone who writes this kind of stuff can't be very normal tbqh

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>>17756181
I'm more thinking about how pretentious his writing in Umineko is, since his fascination for kid abuse can be traced back to his job. Assuming the Anon who said Ryukishi working in child care wasn't complete shite talking out of his arse.

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>>17756210
No idea as well. I never bother searching so all I know about Ryukishi comes from this place, but since nobody said the contrary I suppose is because is true. He apparently started writing higu while still living with his parents, but again, no idea. I'm very good at detecting lies and I don't think anon was being malicious, it might be just rumors made by someone who talked to him personally in some anime expo or something. Authors rarely say anything about their personal lives.

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>>17756275
I blame bloggers for that. I still remember that one critic I read of that book, the Wheel of Time, in which the critic started ranting about the author being a closet homosexual hating women because in his books, women get spanked a lot.

He probably doesn't want some armchair expert trying to find significations in his stuff.

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>>17756299
Oh, it's you. Spank your face, virgin nerd.

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>>17756210
>Pretentious
There's that word again. Trying to make your writing deep or meaningful doesn't automatically make it pretentious.

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>>17756330
Don't bother, it's the same dumbass that was deleted yesterday.

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>>17756330
Not an argument.

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>>17755311
Man I'm reading so much other stuff at the moment, I wish I had the time to read Umineko during the fall.

>>17756181
That might be the case, but Ryukishi is still a really nice guy. When I met him at that Chicago con in 2015 he seemed more excited to see some of the fans than the fans were to see him. He was doing poses when people were taking pictures and everything.

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>>17756275
>apparently started writing higu while still living with his parents
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jP1dij0SPI
Here's an old interview, showing how his family is involved in the process. This is before even the Higurashi anime had aired. I also recall reading how he even had his parents look up information on how much it would take to blow up a school when writing Higurashi, and the interview mentions that.

I'm trying to find mention of his job having to do with child abuse. So far I found this Q&A that mentions him being a civil servant. Q&As at conventions are probably the best best to keep looking for more information about him.
https://seaoffragments.wordpress.com/2015/05/19/acen-2015-07th-expansion-panel-1-when-they-cry-the-world-of-ryukishi07/

Also, I found something interesting that I forgotten about...
https://seaoffragments.wordpress.com/2015/05/17/acen-2015-07th-expansion-panel-3-ryukishi07s-latest-work-trianthology-unraveled-for-the-first-time/

>He’s been working on another solo project that will be released in the near future.
>One hint as to what it’s about: “Tiger Festival.”
>He’s been working on it all last year, with lots of sweat and blood put into it.
>Expect an announcement in the next couple of months.
>After revealing this, Ryukishi was loudly “shhh!”ed by Seto-san, presumably his agent or manager. Ryukishi stated that maybe he’d said too much.
Could this "Tiger Festival" have to do with WTC5? Or maybe it's just the harem game manga?

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>>17756602
>He’s been working on another solo project that will be released in the near future.
>One hint as to what it’s about: “Tiger Festival.”
>He’s been working on it all last year, with lots of sweat and blood put into it.
>Expect an announcement in the next couple of months.
As long as it's not another "le ebin deconstruction of closed room murder", it should be fun.

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>>17756562
I didn't mean it in the way of an insult, surely he's a good person. I always imagine him as an eccentric and sensitive guy who knows how to be serious when he needs to.
>>17756602
Awesome. His parents look so humble I can't help to like them already. Ryukishi seems to be a more accessible person than I imagined, although he gives me the impression of someone who tend to be very harsh with himself and constantly thinking about his own sorrows. Anyway, thanks for the information, I'll read it fully more later.

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>>17756737
It's all good. He does seem like that kind of guy. I guess I kind of look up to him in a way, since he seems to put his all into his work.

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>>17756737
Here's some more interviews and such to look at. Unfortunately the seaoffragments blog no longer updates.

https://seaoffragments.wordpress.com/2015/05/19/acen-2015-07th-expansion-panel-1-when-they-cry-the-world-of-ryukishi07/

https://seaoffragments.wordpress.com/2015/05/18/acen-2015-07th-expansion-panel-2-ryukishi07-his-way-of-writing-a-story/

http://apgnation.com/articles/2015/01/29/13689/say-red-interview-ryukishi07

http://apgnation.com/articles/2015/05/19/17101/another-round-red-truths-ryukishi07/

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>>17756602
He was talking about Iwaihime. That panel was in May and Iwaihime was revealed in June at Toranoana’s Tora Matsuri event

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>>17756811
I see, that makes sense. Thanks.

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>>17756751
I should, though. Just got heavily distracted with life stuff.

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>>17756747
>>17756751
Thanks for the links, they were lots of fun to read. It's always a weird pleasant sensation to read the make up, the behind scenes, of something you enjoy. The success of higurashi was made of a mix of good luck and determination. Man, by reading everyting you can tell Ryukishi is a meanie adorable troll who loves to tease his readers, lol poor BT (knownig that he's dead makes the read quite sad).
This changed a bit my way of looking at him. He's not really so different as some of you guys, with all the nerd otaku stuff I mean. I only see a simple person with a simple family and with a simple life with love for his hobbies and the desire to do something special who found the tools to make it real and that really enough, I just wish he wouldn't be so easily influenced. I still think he's a pervert, but I forgive him. Thanks again, it was cool.

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>On to in production titles…Umineko Chiru is currently in testing! soon?
https://twitter.com/MangaGamer/status/918963880616964096

>Umineko Golden Fantasia is also in testing right now!
https://twitter.com/MangaGamer/status/918963994840494080

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>>17760750
I hope OMKC+ comes out somewhat soon, I want to get back into it with a hopefully not dead online community.

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>>17761089
Same. I hope the English release will result in more people being around for online play.

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>>17760230
Look, ask anyone who actually met him in person how is he. I for one went to the third 07th Expansion Party (yes, he organizes his own fan meet-ups with his own money as well). I've never seen such a sweetheart of a writer as he is, in my entire life. He is incredibly modest, easygoing and open-minded. He treats all of his fans as friends too.

I would tolerate people calling him a pervert or something (aren't all in the otaku circle a bit pervert anyway?), but I would dare someone to try shit talking him after knowing him (it would be unbelievable at best).

He is a legit good man and I wish all of the best for him. No wonder he is friend with the likes of Uchikoshi Kotaro, yet another really nice fellow VN writer who even add fans on Facebook and reply to most of their posts in his timeline.

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>>17761402
That's pretty much how it went when I met him too. He treated me really nicely, and was kind to everybody around him. He even called me Battler after seeing my shitty Battler cosplay.

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>>17761402
I'm sorry I can't share your same thoughts about him and I didn't mean to offend you. Ryukishi is without doubt a good and very creative guy and surely a rad friend to have. It's just that never understood the whole fangirl mindset thing and me mentioning his faults or calling him a pervert (no one is an angel) is not my way to insult him, I just choose to see the person for what he is without idolizing him. He's a simple guy, creator of one my favorites, and that's more than enough for me :) That's what I was trying to say. Night-night

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This general is really cancerous.
Del pls

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>>17761684
You missed the memo, I guess.
If you say anything bad about Ryukishi, you're worse than Hitler and Stalin.

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>>17761733
That's what happen when newfriends arrive on 4chan.

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>>17762010
And WTC5 hasn't even arrived yet. Imagine how much worse it could get.

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>>17762025
If it means more ptkan pictures, I'm all in.
But the fanboys really will get annoying. Expect a lot more "wow this is the best thing i ever read in my life, ryukishi is so perfect why doesnt he have nobel prize".

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>>17762049
I want to be Lambdadelta.

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Spend your time with Bernkastel. She likes to watch video of low probability.

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>>17762049
Ange looks good in cosplay.

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>>17761969
>>17762033

I mean, they aren't wrong about him. I think this idolyzing is annoying too, but nearly every single person who met him in person and talked about it here on /jp/ said similar stuff in these 7 or so years I follow the seacats threads in here. You can even search older threads if you think I'm lying.

Whether it's annoying or not, you gotta give the guy his deserved credit. He is an nice creator and person, and people love him for that. It's very straight forward. Of course they would be mad it someone called him names for a stupid bait like those from this and the last two threads (kinda the same way anyone would feel angry if you attacked someone they like or admire).

What's with this autistic /a/ mindset in here now? /jp/ used to be smarter and feel less offended by someone's simply praising some other person than this faggotry.

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>>17763045
There's "admitting that a guy is good", and there's being a giant sycophant.

I like Ryukishi when he tries to be spooky because he manages to write a descent into paranoia really well, but I find his obsession for child abuse really worrying, and I can't express how disappointed I was with Umineko.
Sadly, /jp/ is populated with people who think that if you like something, you're unable to criticize it, and that therefore, if you criticize something, you must hate it.

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>>17763076
Not him, but your critique doesn't hold very well and thus comes off as just spewing trash.
>I find his obsession for child abuse really worrying, and I can't express how disappointed I was with Umineko.
Child abuse is a common theme in his stories most likely due to his past background as a social worker, I dont see how he is 'Obssesed' by it, given its not even his most common theme and neither is it that prominent in Umineko outside of Maria.

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>>17763209
>your critique doesn't hold very well and thus comes off as just spewing trash
Okay drone.

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>>17763297
Not him, but a lot of your posts are just talking about how you didn't like it without actually giving much in the way of critique, and then playing the victim and saying how your not allowed to have an opinion here whenever someone tries to respond.

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>>17763297
In our point of view, you are the nitpicking drone, to be fair (at least criticize him fairly, not implying this fucked up shit like "it's 'worrying' that he puts child abuse in most of his works, when it's perfectly justifiable as he worked first hand with this at some point).

I don't know how people would imply "that" after reading the depressing bullying hell that was Higanbana (by no means he does for sick reasons, being him an otaku pervert or not).

I'm yet to find some dirt on him in real life (it is THAT difficult really, the motherfucker does looks like a fucking saint in both the community and in the business), but as an author I would criticize Ryukishi for his questionable moral implications in a certain arc of Higurashi (even though the "curse" was to be blamed, friends helping to cover a brutal murder and assisting them with erasing the evidences was pretty fucked up even with the twisted positive message he put in there (and that's for someone who normally has some quite virtuous messages no matter how fucked up his works turn to be).

That one thing and those few jokes in all of his works that goes into a portion of otaku territory I dislike quite a bit would be my major criticisms (like Battler's remarks and promises towards Maria for when she gets old, or the Doctor in Higurashi, or the out of nowhere one liner loli joke in Rose Guns Days-- all of these could easily be removed from there, with maybe the exception of Higurashi's).

I understand a lot of people would say its a pandering to his primary audience, as he is an otaku himself anyway, but still, he IS putting those unnecessary things in his works (even if they are literally just 2-5 lines long out 100.000 or whatever).

That would be the point where I agree he is a bit of an otaku pervert in the most traditional sense.

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>>17763319
>>17763382
Exactly as I said.

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>>17763404
He literally just fairly criticized Ryukishi with solid negative points. You didn't do that at all thus far.

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>>17763416
I did, several times, but my arguments are always deleted and nitpicked with retards going "oh no he called umneiko pretentious and it triggered me", so I stopped trying.

There's no point in repeating the same thing a hundred time if I'm going to get ignored. The first 999th time were enough, I know people here don't want dissenting opinions.

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Would Kinzo have been a better parent if it weren't for his obsession with Beatrice?

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>>17763455
I don't think so.
Even before meeting Beatrice, he was a wreck who was just doing whatever he was told. If I remember right, he engaged in the army to get killed, but ended up in a small base.

If he had to keep on living after losing Beatrice, he probably either would've became a husk again, or he would've blamed Beatrice II for Beatrice's death.

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>>17763428
You've spent more time complaining about your opinions being shot down than you have actually presenting those opinions.

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>>17763464
>or he would've blamed Beatrice II for Beatrice's death.
Would that have been better or worse than what he ended up doing to her?

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>>17763428
Well, we'll see if it's that so if my post gets deleted.

I couldn't see any of your replies (most likely they are those deleted comments in the last few threads), but I'm pretty sure either one-liners or wall-texts without any elaborated backup for their claims are treated as troll/bait comments, that are clean by the Mods for gratuitous toxicity or whatever (that's how it works in the other boards I lurk in, at least).

In each case, I can't judge if that was your case, but anyway, judging just how big Umineko is, I'll think you got quite the big comment about it, I guess.

>>17763455
Kinzo had psycological problems even before Beatrice came into the scene. Her being his most precious thing in the world other than his own new ambitions boosted by her, I'm rather sure he would be a bad parent regardless, if he wouldn't die before even becoming a parent.

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>>17763467
Given the shitty life she had, isolated from everyone, that would've been worse.

Imagine being isolated from everyone, BUT with your only parental figure hating you.
Fucking hell on earth.

[Anonymous No.]

How would things have turned out if Bice never died?

[Anonymous No.]

How would things have turned out of Battler wasn't a sissy and accepted his old memories?

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>>17763464
>>17763471
You're probably right. But part of me still wants to believe there was some truth to Episode 8's Kinzo.

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>>17763530
Well, if Tohya had been able to accept them, he no doubt would have returned to live with Ange and Eva, and probably would have been able to help save their relationship.

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>>17763533
There's no "true Kinzo". Maybe he's the one who killed everyone. Maybe he was senile. Maybe he was still sharp. Maybe he died years ago.

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>>17763544
What's with Ryukishi giving us such an absolutely tragic "happy" ending for Umineko anyway?

Couldn't he, I dunno, "ex machina"-ed things like he did with Higurashi and give us an ending with everybody alive and happy?

Umineko's ending makes me feel like crap everytime I realize how much of an esoteric happy ending it actually was (more like a downer ending in my opinion).

I thought his stories should be like an emotional rollercoaster or something, but Umineko is just all dark and sad overall no matter the happy moments.

Rokkenjima Prime Happy Kakera spin-off when?

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>>17763570
ha! you wish.

<red>This story won't have a happy ending <red>

probably never ever, EP7 should have been clear enough about that regard, even miracle kakeras for Rokkenjima Prime turns into tragedy.

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>>17763570
That's because Umineko doesn't have any real story, it's a poorly disguised author tract scolding people for just reading murder mysteries and not trying to play along.

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>>17763570
What >>17763577 said. Umineko's ending was always going to be bittersweet at best.

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>>17763585
okay, now I get the kind of posts people were criticizing you for

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>>17763593
What are you talking about?

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>>17763455
"Kinzo" is a perfect example of the "old, broken man" character type.

He was exploited by distinct relatives, and he enlisted because he wanted to die. Beatrice is quite literally the only thing Kinzo cared for. I can't imagine being Kinzo and losing the only thing that mattered to you. Kinzo lived a hard life.

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Why did the uncles all get so little development compared to their wives?

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>>17763416
There's no point in arguing with this person. Their heart is so stuck on anyone that disagrees with with him being a Ryukishi fanboy and by trying to argue against that in any way only proves their point in their mind.
Just enjoy the irony of their claim that there's these fanboys that go insane when someone says something negative about Ryukishi and how that's annoying, but when this poster's flimsy points are challenged it's okay for them to overreact and shitpost.

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>>17761969
Pfff, those two are little flies in comparison to me.
>>17763045
I didn't mention this in my other posts to not make the other anon angry, but yeah, I agree with you about all the pedo stuff. I wish he could stop doing it just to please a bunch of sickos, like I understand higu was his first great work and he wanted to succeed but after he got a name in the industry thanks to that success he could have left all that behind and continue to write his stories without mixing something so disgusting into his stories. This is what I meant when I mentioned that he is easily influenced and maybe a pervert. He mentioned in those links that he loves to shock his readers and I get it, but you don't need to be so explicit gosh
Also, no, you weren't deleted for expressing your opinion about the author, but for being that stupid virgin nerd who doesn't stop spamming his stupid pervert shit.

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>>17764424
Oups, meant for >>17763076

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>>17739344
meta-Erika is just one of Bernkastel's alternate selves she picked up somewhere.
piece-Erika is a corpse that was washed up at the shore.
Erika herself probably doesn't exist in the world the Rokkenjima massacre happened in.

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>>17761733
Why? This thread has been strangely comfy for now.

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>>17765251
Just the same people complaining every thread. Ignore them and enjoy the discussion.

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>>17765156
Wait, but Erika did exist in the world where the rokkenjima massacre happened. She fell of from the boat that was close to the island and drowned, but never really went there

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>>17764424
>everyone I don't like is the same guy
I agree with >>17761733

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>>17765390
That has to be one of the stupidest ways a character has ever been introduced ever. It almost sounds like a bad joke of Bernkastel.

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>>17765489
>everyone I don't like is the same guy
When did I say that I dislike you? It's more indifference than anything honestly. I just find it funny to expose you. I like higu and umi but I don't feel offended by the criticisms of others, after all everyone has the right to have an opinion. Also
>>/jp/thread/17725115#p17751867

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>>17764327
For the most part they are more simple, straightforward characters I think.

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-45 > zts

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>>17763592
Even in deadly hallucinations, Ange still alone.

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>>17765390
>Erika did exist in the world where the rokkenjima massacre happened
No, she did not.
In the "real world" Erika only shows up in two of Ikuko's forgeries, she doesn't actually exist.
The person who drowned and was washed up at the island could be anyone, Bern just casted Erika into that role, because it's about the only way she can get a new piece onto the established gameboard.
You can't enter a closed circle, unless you're already there.

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>>17762049
34 is flat. If the has I, she would be round

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>>17766492
I>>17765390
I'm of the opinion that Erika, as a person who fell off a cruise ship and drowned, did actually exist in Prime. The forgeries probably started including her because people found out about her coincidental death near Rokkenjima and on the same day as the disaster and started speculating about how she would've added to the scenario. Because she wasn't as well-investigated as any of the Ushiromiyas, Bernkastel/Featherine could imprint her with any personality she wanted and chose to make her a Mary Sue detective

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>>17767012
>I'm of the opinion that Erika, as a person who fell off a cruise ship and drowned, did actually exist in Prime
This of course may have happened, but it ultimately doesn't matter. It's just an excuse to get the piece onto the board.

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Is Nasu a Touhou?

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>>17766963
Lambda isn't flat!

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>>17767753
Lambda is stacked!

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>>17767778
Official art proves it, Lambda's got a nice pair!

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>>17767060
Yes.

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>>17766963
Who cares?

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>>17768014
Me.

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>>17768144
I don't get it. Is it really that important to you? Would that make you like the characters more or less?

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>>17768258
You've got it backwards. The chest doesn't affect how much I like the character. It's because I like the character that I'm interested in their chest.

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>>17768304
So you're just a pervert, got it.

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>>17768309
I'm just being honest with my desires. It's not like I don't still love Umineko as much as any other fan.

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>>17768320
You're not allowed to be honest with your desires in my presence.

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>>17768364
I. Like. Boobs.

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>>17768374
I like Natsuhi's boobs.

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>>17768859
Good taste. One of the best racks among the aunts.

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>>17768883
Is Krauss the luckiest and purest maiden in all of WTC?

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Doesn't Umineko break Knox's 5th like a hundred times over. Why doesn't Dlanor do her job?

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>>17768902
Hideyoshi's up there too. Especially given his looks.

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>>17768914
It definitely breaks Van Dine's 16th.

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>>17768883
Natushi might be a bit strict towards the servants, but she means well and cares for the family. She'll gladly protect the children and work hard to keep her husband safe. Not only does she have an amazing body but she also has a good personality.

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>>17768922
Hideyoshi is a trickster and far smarter than he shows, of course he's usually benevolent and lets Eva take the lead, because she enjoys it. bit ultimately he's as sly as Rudolf, if not as obsessed with being flashy.

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>>17768926
I love Natsuhi as a character, but I could never really come to like her as a person. She's just too uptight and overly proud. The kind of person who never seems to have any fun. For God's sakes, she makes the whole family dress in formal suits year round even in their own home.

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>>17768932
I agree with him being smart, and he's also a hard worker with an admirable work ethic. But at the same time he's also a bit naive, if his current business dilemma is anything to go by.

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This seems like a good time to ask.
Which aunt did you like most as a character? (i.e. who's role in the story did you like most.)
Which one did you like most as a person? (i.e. who would you get along with most?)

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>>17768981
And on the other side, Which uncle did you like most as a character? As a person?

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>>17768981
I like Natsuhi the most as a character, I enjoy her involvement greatly.

Part of me kind of wants to date Rosa, but I know realistically the aunt I'd get along with the most is Eva. If we were related I could easily see her being an aunt I talk to at family get togethers.

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>>17768991
I like Kinzo as a character since he's the most interesting, even though he doesn't count as an uncle.

I like Hideyoshi as a person since he seems like a nice guy to hang out with.

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>>17768998
>but I know realistically the aunt I'd get along with the most is Eva.
Same. She can be a real bitch when she wants to be (like whenever Krauss or Natsuhi are in the room) but most of the time she's just a fun, playful aunt. But then again, Rosa is also shown to be very nice when not under stress, and Kyrie's always like a cool big sister. Natsuhi's really the only one I couldn't see myself getting along with much in a casual situation.

Eva and Rosa were probably my favorite aunts when it came to characterization. Rosa for her complex relationship with Maria, and Eva for the way she shows that even cruel people have a soft side. Though honestly all of the aunts were A+ characters. Kyrie was probably the weakest, and that's saying a lot since even she was awesome whenever she got a chance to shine.

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>>17769018
Yeah Umineko has pretty good characters. Even minor characters who don't do much tend to usually leave some kind of impact.

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>>17769014
Hideyoshi was one of the genuinely nicest characters in the series, which is probably why Eva fell for him. I also love his philosophy on some things, like the purpose of education and the importance of life.

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>>17769076
I agree. The characters are by far one of my favorite things about Umineko. Even minor ones who don't get much screentime are still well characterized with their own quirks and mindset. And everyone, regardless of overall signifigance to the story, still gets their own small moments here and there. For example, there's Nanjo reminding Kinzo about how having fun with a friend is a precious thing even during competitions like chess, or when the normally bullying Gohda stood up for Shannon against Rosa's accusations, or Hideyoshi whenever he comforts Eva about her insecurities as a wife and mother.

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>>17769134
I still really wish that some characters got more screentime. My friend told me that Hideyoshi was supposed to get a bigger arc later in the series, but I don't know how credible that source is, since he has a history of getting ahold of a lot of misinformation. It would be cool if that were true though.

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>>17768981
>>17768991
Might as well ask this too while I'm at it. Which ones did you find the most attractive?
I found Eva to be the sexiest aunt, while Natsuhi was the most platonically beautiful.
As for the uncles, there's not really much of a competition. Rudolf all the way.

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>>17769182
I'm with you about Eva being the sexiest Aunt, although I'd sooner date Rosa.

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>>17769168
Hideyoshi is one of the underused characters I really would have liked to see more of in the story. While Gohda's irrelevance has become a bit of a joke and feels almost intentional, with Hideyoshi there was just so much more I would have liked to see. Like a scenario where Eva and George die first and we get to see how he copes with losing his family for a second time.

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>>17769185
It was a close call for me between Natsuhi and Rosa for who was the most beautiful. Natsuhi's got more of a dignified refined look, while Rosa's more stylish with a youthful cuteness. I really like both of their designs.

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>>17769210
Rosa has a pretty nice outfit, combined with a pretty good looking face. As much as I like Natsuhi I'd always pick Rosa anyday. Even Battler couldn't help but find Rosa attractive that one time in episode 5.

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>>17769185
Eva was sexiest hands down though. Her form-fitting dress, full figure, and playfully seductive behavior made her an easy pick.

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>>17769226
I think Natsuhi's got a nicer, more elegant dress, but Rosa's got a cuter face. Again, they've got diffrerent types of appeals. Even the pachinko art of her looks good compared to the other aunts.
>Even Battler couldn't help but find Rosa attractive that one time in episode 5.
I remember that. All it took was a wink from his 30-something aunt and he got all flustered. Really goes to show just how charming she can be.

[Anonymous No.]

What are some of your favorite outfits in WTC? Also, which series did you like more when it comes to clothing? Higurashi with its simple yet endearing casual wardrobe, or Umineko with its fancy elegant dresses and suits?

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>>17769342
I really like Battler's suit. I personally love wearing suits and it's flashy and cool looking. I really like bern's dress as far as witch outfits go. Also over all I'd say umineko's style of clothing fits my aesthetic more.

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>>17768914
But no suspects in Umineko are Chinese.
>>17768925
We are fairly advised that Van Dine doesn't apply completely to Umineko, which is why only Dlanor shows up in the main narrative. Will solved it because he he understood the heart of the story and was a nice guy, he was working freelance, not in the capacity as an SSVD agent.

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>>17769342
Umineko because I really like good looking full dresses. Then again I also love Dlador's design and she does the opposite of what I just stated so I have no idea.

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>>17769372
Battler's suit is pretty cool, and the Game Master cape looks surprisingly badass on him. I like all of the fancy Witch dresses too. Beato's dress has always been one of my favorites. Bern's is also pretty nice, if not a bit simple compared to the others.

>over all I'd say umineko's style of clothing fits my aesthetic more.
Same. I'm more for stylish looking clothes over casual ones, even if they're a bit over the top (Lambdadelta) or impractical (Most of the furniture).

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>>17769445
As someone who knows a lot about fashion construction, this dress would be a fucking bitch to create perfectly with the right materials.

It would also suck to wear, she's probably got a corset and crinoline and a bajillion layers.

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>>17769439
The Stakes, Chiesters, and Eiserne Jungfrau all have somewhat similar designs, with each one adding different themes to the whole "uniformed leotard" look. The Stakes a bit of schoolgirl appeal with their blazers. The Chiesters add colors and adornments reminiscent of a military uniform. Lastly, Eiserne Jungfrau has its clergy look. It's actually pretty impressive the number of variations Ryukishi was able to come up with just a single base.

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>>17769462
I have an Ex girlfriend who tried to recreate Beatrice's dress for herself. She spent a long time planning and working on it before eventually giving up.

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>>17769462
Yeah, but that's also part of the appeal for me. Like, it's the kind of dress you'd only really see in a work of fiction. It really fits with her fantastical image. Plus seeing her move around in it so freely in the fighting game and the manga only adds to this feeling of awe.

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>>17769420
>We are fairly advised that Van Dine doesn't apply completely to Umineko, which is why only Dlanor shows up in the main narrative.
For me the biggest piece of evidence that Knox is the one we're supposed to be using and not Van Dine is that bonus material "Our Confession" in which Dlanor comes by herself to inspect Beato's gameboard.

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>>17769469
You had a girlfriend interested in Umineko and you let her get away?

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>>17769511
I know it's one of my biggest regrets. Although she never finished it, she took a break at episode seven and as far as I know hasn't picked it up since.

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>>17769528
>took a break at episode seven
what a dumb cunt.

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>>17769468
The stakes kinda remind me of angel mort.

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>>17769549
I think Angel Mort's uniform was the base that inspired a lot of the furniture's outfits in Umineko.

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>>17769546
I could understand why some people would feel like taking a break at Episode 7. Dawn pretty much concluded Battler and Beatrice's story together, with Requiem and Twilight focusing on Will/Lion and Ange respectively. Suddenly starting the next Episode without 2 some of the most enjoyable characters like Battler, Beatrice, Erika, Ange, and Lambda made me hesitant when I first played it. Plus it has some of the same issues Alliance had, with a slow start featuring a lot of side exposition and info dumps. It was definitely one of the most important Episodes with regards to the overall story, and it had a great second half, but that early segment has some of the slowest in the series for me.

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>>17768374
I didn't asked you.

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>>17769528
For me my biggest regret related to Umineko was watching the Anime first. I'll never get to experience Episodes 1-4 of the vn blind.

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>>17769585
Ouch, that sucks. That was pretty much me having watched the first episode of the anime first.

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>>17769579
Some people don't like to rush. Sometimes I read a whole volume of some manga in a week while other days I just drop it for like a month or so.
>>17769585
Happened the same to me, didn't bother me at all. Umineko is still enjoyable even if you already go a little spoiled, although I didn't watched the whole anime, maybe that counts.

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>>17769594
It was pretty bad at first. For a while the anime dampened my impression of the story, making the Core Arcs look way superior by comparison in my mind. But it's been years since then, and my memories of the anime's Question Arcs have gradually been replaced by those of the vn after several playthroughs, allowing me to appreciate them almost as much as someone who'd read them blind.

[Anonymous No.]

Have reading visuals like umineko (or other VNs) ever made you want to make a VN of your own. I've always had the inspiration to write one.

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>>17768991
Honestly Hideyoshi gets the win since he's the most mature and innocent person of the group, Krauss is second place, I definitely think he's a good man trapped in a bad family and I just wish he tried to be more considerate with Natsuhi and think more about what really matters, Rudolf gets the third place for obvious reasons, he tried to be a good father to Battler and I respect that, but he's also a cheater, so yeah, nope, Kinzo is unjustifiable no matter if he was crazy or not, he was a horrible person and the real monster of the story.
>>17769342
Umi no doubt. I personally love the design of Beatrice's dress, following Lambdadelta as my second favorite.

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>>17769619
Not VNs per say, but Ange's development throughout the series as well as outside information about Ryukishi made the idea of being an author seem more appealing to me.

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>>17769619
Nope, too much work, and I wouldn't be the same since I couldn't get surprised.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17769632
Yeah same here, if making a VN doesn't work I'd just stick to regularly writing.

>>17769638
I see your point but it could be just as fun seeing where your own writing takes you.

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>>17769642
You know, if you really feel inspired then do it, even for yourself or friends. It would be a nice way to practice and you could get a few laughs. Maybe you can get something from the practice, like a game.

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>>17769619
It was part of my inspiration. I like to draw and want to tell a story but a comic is far too much work for me, so a visual novel ended up being a nice halfway point. I've only done a few private projects shared among friends so far.
I've found Ren'Py to be pretty simple to work with. There's a hurdle at first for learning it, but the way the script and coding works is pretty simple and easy. However, don't underestimate how much work it can be when doing it alone, and don't be overly ambitious with your first project if you do decide to take it on.

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>>17769650
Yeah probably. Work on something small to help flesh out my own writing. If it does work out I could always post it somewhere for free too. As long as I have fun doing it.

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>>17769622
>he's the most mature and innocent person of the group
It's funny how that seems contradictory at first yet it's still accurate.

>I definitely think he's a good man trapped in a bad family
I agree. A lot of his more negative aspects seemed to be a result of his position more than his actual character. Take his sexism towards Eva for example. With Eva it was just him getting defensive and trying to find anything he could use to justify his position over her, with his gender being the easiest excuse. On other occasions Krauss has shown to be pretty progressive with his mindset, like being relatively okay with Jessica and Kanon's relationship, or respecting Kyrie's intelligence.

>but he's also a cheater, so yeah, nope
Rudolf gave me the impression of a generic harem protagonist thrust into a real world situation. He tries to make things work with multiple girls, not wanting to abandon any of them. Yet while the sentiment may seem kind it actually causes more pain for his partners by leading them along with the impression that there's always still a chance to get with him.

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>>17769655
>don't be overly ambitious with your first project
I really like the way Ryukishi tried to be a lot more ambitious with Umineko after Higurashi's success.

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>>17769657
Yeah, I mean like you can enjoy writing your story like a game or a diary, with no rush. Everybody starts tiny, playing with their imagination. I'm not a writer, but I'm sure the inspiration is not something that stays forever. If someday you feel a little lost you can always read your previous amateurish works and look at your past self to regain that inspiration. Have fun

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>>17769675
I think sharing your work with others can really help with the writing. Seeing their reactions can motivate you to do more, and hearing their impressions can help you come up with new ideas. Just look at Ryukishi with BT.

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>>17769660
Well, now that I think about it, the sexism of Krauss comes from the word views that the people of that time shared, and mostly because of Kinzo. I suppose it's understandable with a dad like that.
>>17769687
Yeah. For real though, if you really want to write then do it, anon. At least in a form of a diary, then shared with someone precious to you or someone you trust enough. Even if it comes to nothing the important part is to have fun. Seeya

[Anonymous No.]

>>17769675
>>17769687
I have a friend I can do that kind of thing with. Somebody that can help me with art, and another person I can share the work with while i'm making progress.

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>>17769695
>Well, now that I think about it, the sexism of Krauss comes from the word views that the people of that time shared, and mostly because of Kinzo. I suppose it's understandable with a dad like that.
Even when it comes to his relationship with his wife, the main reason Krauss doesn't want her help isn't because he thinks she's incapable, but because it makes him feel like a failure of a husband, since he's been raised with the belief that it's a man's duty to provide for his family. In that sense he's somewhat similar to Natsuhi, who wants to prove that she's a respectable wife and feels inadequate whenever that fact gets called into question.

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>>17769726
Honestly i feel kind of bad for Krauss, he seems genuinely like an alright person when you take out his family shit. Although he does suck as a businessman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17769740
He should have pursued a career as a professional boxer. Let Eva take over the family business, she's clearly the most qualified.

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>>17769664
I like that too, but he didn't do it alone. There's character portraits, backgrounds, graphics for the interface, writing, music, and sound effects to use and then coding them all in. It's very easy to be in over your head because of a head full of hope and ideas as well as a passionate start, but that can quickly burn out once you realize how long you've been working on something only to realize you're still in the early stages of your dream project. That's why I suggest starting small on the first project, it happens too often to too many people. I would suggest adapting a story you already made as a first, as it would be something you're already familiar with and have set up in your head. It can be pretty amazing to see it come to life in a visual novel.
Even having a friend to share an update about your project can be better than nothing, it can get awfully lonely when deep into a project all by yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17769944
Yeah it seems to be better working with other people. And a smaller project can give you some more recognition and would gather more interest for whenever you want to start a more ambitious work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17769944
>>17769953
Really makes you appreciate people like ZUN who try and make games with as little outside assistance as possible.

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>>17769953
Working with a group isn't guaranteed to be better, there's the possibility of people not pulling their weight and stalling the whole thing, which could then lead to the whole thing being cancelled. Working by yourself might be a better start as practice at the very least, and you'll be a little self-sufficient. That way you'll have a better idea of what you're doing for the next project, learn to understand your personal limits, and know if you can get a little more serious in the next attempt.

>>17769963
Indeed.

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>>17769963
I respect the hell out of ZUN, doing most of the work himself. I doubt he even suspected that his work would blow up to become as big as it is now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17756657

You must be the biggest faggot on this entire board, or at least the dumbest. I bet you had a fucking boner once it was revealed that Hinamizawa was ground zero for a fictional disease.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17768144
I felt a weird pang in my chest looking at this

[Anonymous No.]

>>17770234
Really? How so?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17770253
Just a quick slightly painful pang about my heart for whatever reason.
Those two's chests are bigger than I thought, anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17770260
Odd. I hope it's not a bad sign at least. They've both got rather decent busts when the current artist will let them. Not sure who would be bigger though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17770264
From those various pics I'd say Lambda's generally slightly bigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17770272
Yeah Bern is only bigger at her peak but varies widely. Lambda on the other hand has a more consistent size that usually surpasses Bern's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17770272
How about Erika then? Where would she fall? Biggest of the three? Or else the smallest? Or maybe somewhere in between?

[Anonymous No.]

Seems impossible to tell. With her outfits you can see nothing at all, but one wedding cg makes her seem about as big as the other two when they're drawn with decent busts. It's up to your imagination...

[Anonymous No.]

>>17770321
True. It's not exactly consistent, and her attire only makes it harder to tell. averaging out her various interpretations, I'd put her at a high B to a low C cup.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17770348
My, that artist drew her with a completely different bust between outfits, perhaps she wore pads for her wedding?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17770363 pads wouldn't cause that kind of cleavage on a previously flat chest. You can even see the sides of each boob clearly defined above the cups of her dress. No pads could fake something that's out in the open like that.

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>>17770414
That's true, what about a push-up bra?

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>>17770421
That's possible, but it still wouldn't account for the parts of her boobs we can visibly see. Plus I'm not sure how effective a push-up bra would be in a shoulderless dress like that. Maybe it's the other way around, and her swimsuit shot is making them look smaller for some reason.

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>>17770434
Yeah the way they round out from her armpit makes them look quite big, and then she's just plain flat. I'd just assume the artist was inconsistent, far too big a discrepancy, I'd think.

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>>17770440
True. Plus with how low cut the front of that swimsuit is, you would definitely be able to see some cleavage if they were as big as left makes them seem. Other official art shows a bit, which makes me think she can't be that small.

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>another comfy thread ruined
>>17768144
Well done, dumbo

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>>17770454
Who's your favourite witch bust-anon?

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>>17770479
Probably Lambdadelta, though it's really close. How about you, fellow bust lover?

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>>17770479
>imagine being this much of a virgin

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>>17770497
Bernkastel and Lambda are overall so even that it's too hard to pick between them. Bernkastel's more pretty, though.

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>>17770526
But Lambda's more cute though.

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>>17770529
For sure, and would be more sociable and easy to get along with, but I'm sure socialising with Bern would definitely be interesting in its own way. They're both great in different ways so it's hard to pick a favourite.

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>>17770534
>They're both great in different ways so it's hard to pick a favourite.
Well, for lack of a better method, who do you find hotter?

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When the Game ends vol.2
http://www82.zippyshare.com/v/dSiT0DFE/file.html

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>>17770537
It's too hard to decide. Based solely on appearance, Bern.

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>>17770548
>harem
Sorry, I'll pass.
>>17770537
>>17770557
I'm tired of both of you. Reported

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>>17770557
>http://www82.zippyshare.com/v/dSiT0DFE/file.html
>>>
> Anonymous 10/16/17(Mon)03:54:47 No.17770557 ▶
>>>17770537 (You)
I can understand that. Bern's design is more visually appealing in several ways. But it's definitely a really close call, with both having their own strengths.

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>>17770564
Why do you respond to me?

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>>17770557
I can understand that. Bern's design is more visually appealing in several ways. But it's definitely a really close call, with both having their own strengths.

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>>17770564
Yeah, and her cat tail's great, definitely has that over Lambda. In the end, though, they're best appreciated as a pair.

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>>17770579
Yeah, the contrast between their designs really compliments each other.

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>>17769342
I personally really like Kinzo's suit, even if it's basically the same as Battler's but with a double breasted jacket.

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They can probably alter their breast sizes

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>>17770592
Now that you mention it, that's probably the case. After all, Beatrice is able to appear how she pleases.

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>>17770592
Mods, this is the same idiot who was deleted the other day.

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>>17770586
The cape really pulls it all together.
>even if it's basically the same as Battler's but with a double breasted jacket.
I always thought that was a neat parallel.

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>>17770603
Say it in red, then.

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>>17770628
>>>/t/his+virgin+is+the+same+person+that+was+deleted+the+other+day+and+he+is+annoying+me

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[Anonymous No.]

So, I'm reading Kamaitachi no Yoru...

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>>17767859
Wait, boobs

>>17768144
Oh, witch

>>17770635
Stop replyng thim okay?

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>>17771426
Boobs, yes?

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>>17769632
Yeah, one of the thing that inspires me about Ryukishi is that he had his breakthrough success later into his life (I think late 20s-early 30s), so there's still hope for someone my age (29).

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>>17771969
That's still pretty young all things considered, not even middle-aged yet.

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>>17739534
>halfway through episode 3 as well.
There last video on youtube channel is episode 2 part 6, where did you find 3rd episode?
And googling "Newt3102" found only this thread.

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>>17772260
Isn't one of them not blind?

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>>17772326
At first I'll watch 9 hours of these videos original uploads of which were deleted when I was reading the vn.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC-1oPty3rw5EzXqCWw2O7i930evIkzMX

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>>17772338
>two
> f u c k i n g
>HOURS
Nope.

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The episode 3 video where he explains his theory and how he solved the epitaph is an unlisted video that he linked on the Rokkenjima fan-site.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lGXmIFdQ0o
They already were reading into Episode 3 while the uploads were still into Episode 1. The uploads aren't done live, they're edited and then released every few days, with this theory Episode being the exception to it.

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>>17772260
Accidentally deleted the post number I was replying to from my post:
>>17772421

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>>17770500

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>>17771412
>mari
I've seen writers like uchikoshi say they took inspiration from ps1 vns like kamaitachi no yoru, but i guess r07 probably did too.

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>>17772260
They uploaded an unlisted video through Rokkenjima where he goes through what he thinks of the Epitaph and he also posts on Rokkenjima about his suspicion of the fact that Shannon and Kanon are never seen together infront of Battler, therefore there is a good chance of them being the same person.

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>>17770603
Mods, this is the same stupid ban evading attention whore who you keep letting run rampant across these threads

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>>17772347

>>two
>> f u c k i n g
>>HOURS
>Nope.

The whole thing is over 8 hours ya' pansy.

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>>17774317
Half of which is spent bitching about the solution in barely discernible english.

[Anonymous No.]

Can we agree that Beato was a pretty shitty GM?

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>>17776201
What is a GM?

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>>17776201
I mean she was intentionally trying to get Battler to win, making it easy for him. Besides she was entertaining as hell.

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>>17776348
Game Master
>>17776201
Battler nearly broke the game on his first run. Compared to that, Beato did a pretty good job.

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>>17776201
Beato was the best Game Master.
Lambda's episode had absolutely nothing to do with the mystery.
Bern's episode was the equivalent of her trying to break gameboard itself as much as she could.
Battler was completely incompetent.

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>>17776416
Lambda at least followed all the rules on a superficial level even if she ignored the heart behind them.

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Dr. najo gameboard when?

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Ok, who was the anon who said DanganronpaV3 stole Umineko's meta's twist in the least few threads (not to mention being naive enough to say that both were anyhow bad without even given a proper point)?

Because I call it complete bullshit, and I really wanna see what you will say in your defense about it. The whole twist was great, and the whole point has a world of difference in both execution AND settings compared to Umineko.

Their only similarity is the Gameboard aspect if you slightly take into consideration the relation between Rokkenjima Prime and the Gameboards , and it isn't even in the same way at all.

You are generalizing metafiction as a whole quite poorly. There, I just wanted to get this out of my chest and hopefully get this point into your brain.

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>>17769579
And the rest is trash.

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>>17778545
the best part (and EP5)?
please

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>>17778583
I mean after episode 7. And I already wasn't fond of bringing Will back, the rest is just silly and stupid.

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>>17778594
I mean, EP8 IS kinda polarizing because of the shounen-like segments. But to be fair:

You may think the whole meta-battles was stupidly too over the top (it was the portion being represented by Battler's side in any case, it was kinda the point, if you consider EP4 and EP6's superficial writing as part of his interpretation as Tohya recollecting Battler as well), but the overall content of EP8 is much more than that, especially the ending.

I wouldn't dismiss it as "silly and stupid" simply because of those parts. You have to consider that EP8 is pretty much a battle of ideals and interpretations between Ikuko and Tohya regarding the truth of Rokkenjima, and their ultimate decision of revealing said truth in Rokkenjima Prime (us real life readers already having much more info than them, ultimately causing the coup out in their regard in-universe) to be something worth of doing or not, given the actual context of the series.

In short, EP8 may be that multi-perspective mess with over-the-top sequential fights, but it WAS kinda the point in a way.

And in my opinion, the execution of it was just fine like that too (even more when they give you the whole context by the very end of it).

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>>17778629
>You may think the whole meta-battles was stupidly too over the top
I do. Already in episode 2 (or is it 3? When Virgilia appears), I disliked it.

>You have to consider that EP8 is pretty much a battle of ideals and interpretations between Ikuko and Tohya regarding the truth of Rokkenjima, and their ultimate decision of revealing said truth in Rokkenjima Prime
That's another thing I can't understand : why they fuss over it so much.
It makes sense for the public at large, but Ange at least deserved to know, no matter how horrifying the truth potentially was.
This is another thing I don't like about Umineko, the characters don't really make sense. Or at least, their logic is different than mine.
Assuming that Kyrie and Rudolf really killed everyone, okay, maybe Ange didn't need to hear that. But feeding her cryptic stuff about magic and Schrodinger's Cat when she was looking for straight answers after a really shitty childhood seemed to me to be a really dick move.
And there's also the fact I was expecting a murder mystery and got something entirely different and I spent three quarters of the story wondering if Gouda hasn't poisoned everyone with LSD and was actually stabbing them while they were hallucinating the whole thing.

And the worst part is that since the game never truly explain what happened, it may be possible that this is how it happened : a giant mushroom dream while someone was stabbing people.

There are some parts I liked, but I don't think I'll ever like the whole story.

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>>17778656
>And there's also the fact I was expecting a murder mystery and got something entirely different

Hm... dude, the whole mystery segments can be solved via fair-play how-how-why-dunit, every single one of them.

Willard himself solves some explicitly, in a rather cryptic way.

As for Ange, well, she did got to know the truth, the intention of having her not knowing it was mostly because she straight said she would kill herself after satisfying her need of knowing the truth.

If I recall correctly, in fact, Battler planned on giving her a reason to continue living on and at least remembering her family's positives instead of just the negatives.

At least that's my interpretation of that (again, point-of-views vary a lot when talking about characters, but that much was made pretty clear).

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>>17778656
About the murder mystery part, I think Umineko can't be classified as JUST a murder mystery, exclusively speaking. It is essentially a murder mystery with much more to the eye than its own subgenre.

It's more of a combination of murder mystery, multi-layered meta-fiction, tragic love story and bildungsroman altogether in my honest opinion.

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>>17778694
>It is essentially a murder mystery with much more to the eye than its own subgenre.
And this is precisely why I hate it. I expected something much more straightforward, closed room murders with spookiness, and instead I went for Beatrice's Wild Ride.

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>>17778699
I totally get where you are coming from in a way.

But I think those are the elements which made me fall in love with the tale the most, instead-

You are probably an avid mystery reader like myself, but the more traditionalist kind; a.k.a. "fuck metafiction, it shouldn't mix with fair play besides being a very fair deconstruction".

And you are not alone in that regard, many other mystery reader purists I know despise anything out of the strictly made fair play (even out of the box resolutions meet criticism in a way).

Ryukishi had a lot of fun deconstructing these elements in Umineko (especially narrative-wise), and I'm not really a purist in these terms, as long as the actual thing is fully fair play, so I enjoyed every single moment of especulation.

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>>17778729
I don't mind the complexity, I had a lot of fun figuring out how the different worlds worked together (the game board, the meta game, and the witches' tea room), but the problem started when the game encouraged me to keep trying to solve the mysteries, and I was unsure if there was a logical explanation to it or if all the magic was real, so I gave up on it, and from here, it became really bored, and boredom turned into scorn until I can barely hear about Umineko without getting upset.

It's not what I was expecting at all and I had no idea how to read it. In the end, removing all the trash and only keeping Ange's and the Rokkenjima parts was the good answer, the rest is just here to confuse you.

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>>17778747
Actually, thinking about it, I wonder if I didn't started hating Umineko precisely because it didn't make sense.

My favourite part of a game is when I'm learning it, as soon as I understand how it works, I become bored easily. But Umineko constantly fucks with you in that regard, with the Witches quitting their world to interact with the meta game, or sometimes even interfering with Rokkenjima directly, or with the game telling you to pick a side between magic and logic, and then depicting magical battles between Virgilia and Beatrice.

I think there's an idiom for that, "mixed messages" or something.

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>>17778747
I mean, denominated "trash" was full of foreshadowing and symbolism to major elements 99% of the time; they actually really were, even the scenes that literally shouldn't make any sense in normal circumstances... that is, if you disconsider boob groping jokes and Battler being creep to Maria & Jessica as being foreshadowing for Kinzo's incestuous behaviour with young girls and just how much the story put paralels between Gramps/Grandson.

That's kinda my own guess tho, and a very fucked up joke at that if Ryukishi really intended it.

That and the filler fights, which are the whole battle segments without counting the dialogue in most of them (I would say Krauss vs Goat-kun was the only actually irrelevant one), would be legit disposable elements, but they are pretty entertaining in their own way too.

I consider those fights as extras in the story for entertaning purposes only, not counting the content being talked about during said sequences + their actual meaning (in short, the fights per se are irrelevant).

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>>17778820
>if you disconsider boob groping jokes and Battler being creep to Maria & Jessica as being foreshadowing for Kinzo's incestuous behaviour with young girls and just how much the story put paralels between Gramps/Grandson
I think you're reading too much into it. I remember parallels being drawn between Battler and Kinzo, but I doubt this is as deep as you think.

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>>17778828
I probably am

But it is a heck of an unfortunate implication

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>>17778935
What about Battler's fear of boats?

Though his attraction to Yasu is creepy, seeing as they're... cousins?

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>>17778991
How is that creepy? It's not like it's the same as a sibling you've grown up with since they're a baby, and you can't exactly help who you feel attracted to. What Kinzo pulled is creepy.

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>>17779050
Fucking your siblings is not a bright idea, even if she's hot.

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>>17779064
I'm not talking about sex, I'm talking about love.

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>>17779073
What is love without sex? Nothing.

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>>17779078
Do you fuck your pets? Not everyone feels love the same way as you do.

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>>17779083
I don't have any pets. But I'd dig a monster girl as a pet, just so that I can answer you "yes".

[Anonymous No.]

So what was Beato in Episode 8? Was it chick Beato that Battler made in Episode 6? Didn't she 'die' and get buried at the start of Episode 7?

[Anonymous No.]

More importantly, can we talk about which stakes to spank?

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>>17779117
The Stake who needs to be spanked the most.

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>>17780129
Why her more than the others?
She's very supportive of Ange.

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>>17779117
Get banned already

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>>17780142
Her title says it all, I think.
She needs to be spanked, because she's so full of herself, but ultimately useless.

Of course I also wouldn't be opposed to Satan spanking me, she surely can find something to punish someone over.

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>>17780188
Bullying Lucifer does sound nice. Especially if it's in front of the others sisters.

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>>17779064
S-Shut up! What do you you know!

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>>17780129
>>17780142
>>17780188
>>17780192
What?

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>>17780285
I want to spank Lucifer and I want to be spanked by Satan, basically

[Anonymous No.]

>>17780287
Oh, okay. That's what it was about.

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>>17780285
Don't feed the virgins, idiot.

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>>17778991
> as they're... cousins?
Yasu is Battler's uncle.

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>>17780323
And cousin.

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>>17780323
Sorry, don't care about that.

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>>17780324
And also uncle.

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>>17779107
If I recall correctly, the actual Beato passed on for good from the Purgatory at the end of EP5, so...

Tragically, that is just the Chick Beato, a mere representation of her who uncovered the truth thanks to Battler's Game in EP6, probably much like Toyha/Battler relation at that point.

Thinking about it, I guess this is kinda sad. Much like Yasu, Meta-Battler now lives a delusion that takes form given his own input to it.

But anyway they all pass on with the rest of Rokkenjima by the end of EP8 anyway, so it doesn't really matter (I would rather consider it being a temporary thing from EP6 to EP8 pre-epilogue).

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>>17780355
It is Chick Beato, but she has the memories of the previous Beato, so even if she's ultimately a different person she's practically indistinguishable from the original.

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>>17780330
And aunt.

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>>17780377
No, just uncle-cousin-uncle.

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>>17780387
Depends on the classification.

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>>17780400
Then just cousin-uncle-uncle, not aunt. You see, Yasu is a boy.

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>>17778747
I'd recommend trying to enjoy the story itself more instead of focusing solely on finding the truth. Umineko's more than just a series of logic puzzles after all.

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>>17778991
I ship Battler with meta Beato anyway. George can have Yasu if he wants.

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>>17780418
>I'd recommend trying to enjoy the story itself more instead of focusing solely on finding the truth
That's what I tried, but the game told me it was bad to give up on trying to find the truth and that it was the doublebadwrong way to play.

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>>17780431
All you're supposed to do is give the mysteries some thought on your own. Have some fun with trying to reason it out, that's all. You don't need to obsess over it to the point that it keeps you from enjoying the rest of the story. Then you'd just be an intellectual rapist and nothing more.

[Anonymous No.]

Rank the episodes
5>3>7>2>1>4>6>8

[Anonymous No.]

>>17781712
5>3>8(manga)>4>6>1>7>2

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>>17764327
Rudolf got quite a bit of development honestly.
To a lesser extent Krauss as well, a lot of his development came hand in hand with the aunt's development (other than Kyrie).
Hideyoshi is the only one who got shafted.

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>>17778382
Oh don't get me wrong, I loved both twists and the endings too( and specially loved what they did in V3, it was my favorite ending in the entire DR series), it's just that I found funny how many people hyped DRV3 to be influenced by Umineko when it was announced, only to turn out the only things one can consider influence are maybe Himiko's gimmick and the whole "fictional characters vs the outside world", the latter being the major thing that absolutely killed the japanese fanbase and part of the western one in Umineko, and it is only even more funny how it also heavily damaged DR's fanbase because people are dumb and think the author is telling them they are evil for enjoying the death of fictional characters

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>>17781826
Why are fans so dumb. The authors aren't insulting you, they're just trying to make a point.

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>>17781826
No joke, not to spoil V3, but I know a girl who HATED V3's twist specifically for those reasons. She took it REALLY personally. Most of the people who seem to bitch about shit like this seem to generally hate meta fiction in general.

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>>17782052
I liked the ending to V3 but I also liked the ending to Umineko.

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>>17782062
Yeah, I loved both

Why are so many people missing the point completely for either v3 or Umineko? It kinda bothers me a bit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17782062
Well I disliked the ending of V3 and also disliked the ending of Umineko.

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>>17782098

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>>17782062
I agree, both were pretty good endings. It depends if you're into that kind of thing I guess. A lot of people aren;t.

[Anonymous No.]

But wasn't Kodaka friends with Ryukishi and Uchikoshi anyway?

I really wonder if he really didn't get the idea from his fellow mystery writer buddy (even before V3, as Dangan2 had a similar approach, but not as meta).

From what I remember in a 2ch thread, there were rumors they were the ones who indicated Ryukishi to Spike Chunsoft to write the new scenario for Kamaitachi no Yoru's PSVita remake.

And they do share quite a bunch of ideas in their works, in terms of execution (narrative traps and meta-fiction) and overall presentation here and there, I wouldn't be surprised if V3 turned out to be influenced by Umineko already from the first case alone (unreliable narrator), not to mention some blatant shout-outs to quotes and phrases from Umineko since Dangan2.

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>>17782098

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>>17782110
I've heard about Kodaka and Uchikoshi being pals, but I've never heard of Ryukishi also being involved. You sure that's accurate? At best, I could see pic related being inspired by Maria.

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>>17782115
I mean, while I can't confirm they're friends I can see Kodaka being a fan of Umineko. I know he's good friends with Uchikoshi though. You can see a lot of influences they have in each other's works.

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>>17782098

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>>17782098

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>>17782110
inb4 someone makes that "can I copy your x; ok, but don't make it obvious" meme because of the meta similarities of each series.

>>17782115
There was a photo of those three together iirc (I remember the post was referring them to "troll drinking buddies trio" or whatever)

As for concrete evidence, we have:

Kodaka & Uchikoshi made a funny roast battle together on youtube and sometimes tweet to each other here and there (not to mention being in events together in Spike Chunsoft frequently).

Uchikoshi & Ryukishi made a whole "interview" segment together (in a talking show-ish fashion) discussing their writing styles and elaborations in terms of Mystery, how they introduce each elements to their stories, etc...

Pretty good stuff, and it was available to watch online (all japanese though). If I find it again I'll link it in here.

As for Kodaka and Ryukishi, it still is especulation. Kodaka seem to be a big fan of his works overall and references Umineko in particular in at least 2 of his Dangan games (Dangan2 & Despair Girls, didn't played V3 just yet, so I can't confirm).

None of them follow 07th Expansion's twitter and 07th Expansion's twitter literally follows no one at all lol (not that this is any relevant in any case, their accounts are business strict after all).

[Anonymous No.]

>>17782160
The girl in the picture I showed is pretty similar to Maria. Has a weird noise catchphrase (Nyeh), constantly insists that magic is real, has trouble expressing emotions, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are there no high quality versions of these?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17782184
There are, if you buy the BDs and scan the images, that is

[Anonymous No.]

>>17782184
>ange
Flustered girls for a reason makes me diamonds. Please explain.

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>>17782190
Are the BDs even sold anymore?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17782208
Explain what exactly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17782210
They sold terribly, there should be some spare copies in Akihabara somewhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17782169
Not to mention the little Maria there is one of the survivors besides being voted as the least probable survival in most of the surveys pre-release. Not that it implies anything at all, I just find it funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17782215
Buying BDs purely for those would seem a bit silly though. Plus part of me really doesn't want to support DEEN's adaptation just for lewds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17782208
Ange will have that kind of effect on you.

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>>17782233

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>>17782169
Not even that, Kodaka LITERALLY referenced a major Umineko plot point at that,

I couldn't finish V3 without thinking at least thrice that Kodaka marathoned the whole Seacats before writing some of this stuff lol

To be fair, as the anon above stated, the plot points are completely different from Umineko in setting, tonality and even meta-building. I just can't help but relate it to Umineko, since Kodaka really seems to look up to it.

Took this with my cellphone since PsVita is a terrible piece of shit which blocks your fucking in-game screenshots).

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>>17782160

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>>17782256
It's fine. I know what part you're talking about. That seems more like a reference to Ange than Maria though. But yeah, I see what you mean. At the very least, if Kodaka did take inspiration from Umineko he at least didn't strait up copy it, since there are enough differences in the way those elements were handled to make it unique.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17782267
Yeah I'm totally sure he's at least a fan of the series. Which makes sense given the kinds of games that ha makes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17782098
Same here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17782267
it makes me like V3 even more desu

[Anonymous No.]

https://rokkenjima.org/new-when-they-cry-image-sound-tracks-and-dramas-haworthia-announced/

[Anonymous No.]

>>17782797
when the aliens cry confirmed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17780375
>>17780355
But then who was buried by Battler and Lia at the start of Ep 7?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17782160
>Umineko references in Despair girls
I still find hard to believe that someone who knows about Umineko would try to pull the same thing it did in the ending, though there are some things like that one Nagito quote about there being 16 people in an island because one of the 17 was pretending to be someone else and the metaworld the anime showed for a few seconds
I also find it hard to believe and absolute memelord like Kodaka who can't go 3 sentences without spouting some kind of reference would manage to keep his Umineko refrences at a minimum
What I never heard about before was the despair girls umineko reference, what was it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17782797
Albino Shannon and Kanon in next WTC?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17782797
Might as well post the new character info while you're at it.

The Gentle Older Sister: Asaki Yumemi.
VA: Asaki Risa
“This star, it’s become quite lovely, hasn’t it?”

[Anonymous No.]

>>17783404
The Strong-Willed Younger Sister: Yuu Yumemi.
VA: Yuu Hokazono
“You mustn’t run away, we’ll make it out of this hell together!”

[Anonymous No.]

>>17783406
Environmental Control Organisation Head Press Secretary: Motoki Punica Granatum
VA: Motoki Zakuro
“No no, don’t be so stiff~! Feel free to call me Punica, okay?”

[Anonymous No.]

>>17783408
Grand Admiral of the 1st Area Immigrant Fleet: A. H. Haworthia
VA: Kino Nei
“However, there is just one thing. Remember to sing of joy. And so, may it never be forgotten.”

[Anonymous No.]

>>17783411
Isolated Green of the Forest: Organics Automata S
VA: Suzu Maihara
“Everything is for the sake of this star. Organics Automata will restore this star’s beauty.”

[Anonymous No.]

>>17783413
Isolated Blue of the Sea: Organics Automata K
VA: Kyoko Namekawa
“Nice to meet you. I’m Tomomasa’s sister, her mother, myself.”

[Anonymous No.]

>>17783414
moar please

[Anonymous No.]

>>17783418
That's all there is so far it seems.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17783404
Red Albino Shannon
>>17783406
Blue Albino Kanon
>>17783411
Green Virgilia

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>>17782797
The design the of the characters reminds me a lot of Shannon and Kanon, and I'm guessing the title remains as a mystery, right? For the look of the characters it seems like Ryukishi is going for a full fantasy world which is a little worrisome. Thanks for the news!

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>>17782797
looks worse than rgd

[Anonymous No.]

>>17783840
Were you hoping for more boxing glove hands?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17783404
>>17783406
>>17783408
>>17783411
>>17783413
>>17783414
Looks like all of the characters except Haworthia are named after their voice actors. That's kind of unusual

[Anonymous No.]

>>17784261
Not that anon, but-
>not liking boxing glove hands
Next you'll say that the original art of Umineko is better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17784362
I prefer PS3 art

[Anonymous No.]

>>17784350
That is weird. Maybe it's a coincidence, or maybe some new meta aspect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17784398
Duh, I was talking about the original art styles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17783840
But rgd had some dopeass designs. Although somewhat inconsistent...

[Anonymous No.]

>>17784399
I don't think it's a coincidence, it has to mean something, I'd imagine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17783246
I think he is talking about a random quote from chapter 3 or 4 someone posted in a dangan3 thread on /a/ last year.

Not quite a reference, but it does throw some hints of it being a one (Kodaka always do that when he references any manga and anime at all).

Not as blatant as Dangan2's and DanganV3's, but still there.

I'll check on youtube and see if I find it

[Anonymous No.]

>>17784362
It was.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17784865
twasnt

[Anonymous No.]

Been reading Doki Doki Meme Club. At times it feels like Higurashi, with all the paranoia, meta inverted negative photo view effect in order to set that uneasy mood.

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>>17785383
Plus the club full of cute girls, of course.
I enjoyed it a lot, but I went into it blind because of a friend recommending and making the Higurashi comparison as well, without going into the details of it. It's not very long and it's free. If anyone wants to pick up a new VN that doesn't take too much commitment, I'd say Doki Doki Literature Club is worth a shot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17785383
>>17785409
Seems interesting enough. I'll give it a look.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17785383
And why would I ever want to read a dating simulator for boys? Not interested

[Anonymous No.]

>>17784865
Not really, but I respect your opinion even if you are completely, absolutely, definitely and profanely wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17785409
Although it can't quite get to the level of Dancers7 when keichi first snapped
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgJtOe14wEY

[Anonymous No.]

>>17785501
Cause you're a boy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17785539

[Anonymous No.]

>>17785229
>>17785525
Right is better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17785552
You can't fool me. Girls don't exist. I won't believe in something so ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17785561
Left feels more natural, gives me the impression that was drawn with no difficulty. Right is more complex but you can tell Ryukishi tried too much and didn't came out as good. Also I like the big hands, I think they look cute.
>>17785564
>>>/g/irls+exist+and+you+are+never+going+to+get+laid

[Anonymous No.]

>>17785501
That's entirely your choice to pass on it. I got my sister to play it, as well as a a friend of mine that's a girl to play it. Even girls can appreciate cute girls. There's no nudity or sex scenes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17785627
Nah, I'm not interested in all that lesboshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17785627
Ignore them. They're just looking for attention.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17785676
Nah, I'm just being honest. I read it on /v/ quickly like a week ago, I more or less know about what's about anyway. Apparently the game knows your username, kind of like OneShot, and one or two of the characters become yandere and the die when you finish the game like if they were aware of the real world, until you reset the game and revive them again, kind of like Undertale.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17785687
That sounds pretty similar to Kimi to Kanojo to Kanojo no Koi

[Anonymous No.]

>>17785735
No idea about that one, but I'm just saying what I remember reading in a thread I wasn't really paying too much attention like a week ago, so I might be completely wrong about what I posted. Almost everyone in /v/ are or a bunch of manchildrens or just repulsive sissies so who knows if it was bait or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17785765
>No idea about that one
It's this vn where one of the girls starts breaking the fourth wall and accusing the player of cheating on her for moving on to the next girl's route.

[Anonymous No.]

>Newt solved the epitaph

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>>17785825
Spooky, so kind of like the flower from Undertale?
Knowing the kind of people who reads this stuff I bet someone out there even fell in love with the character and felt really guilty about it and freak out, the whole idea makes me giggle. Hilarious

[Anonymous No.]

>>17785923
Narnith's still better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17785923
Who? Also
>implying
I don't believe it, surely they were spoiled or read it somewhere. I thought it was only possible to solve for someone who knew Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

You'd need to know some certain Kanji at the very least. And while I suppose it's possible to look up the ones you need it doesn't seem feasible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17785980
Meant for
>>17785968

[Anonymous No.]

>>17785982
Heh, so I was right without even knowing who they are. This person only wanted to give a show. Nobody can outsmart me. Phony!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17785825
>Kimi to Kanojo to Kanojo no Koi
Wait it has been finally translated? Or are you using machine translator?

[Anonymous No.]

http://blog.mangagamer.org/2017/10/20/umineko-when-they-cry-answer-arcs-now-available-for-pre-order/

[Anonymous No.]

>>17786756
Yes! It's here at last!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17786756
>came out before OMKC+
I'm surprised.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17786983
Hopefully that's coming very soon as well now.

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>>17783404
>>17783406
Alternate personalities. COME ON RYUKISHI, YOU CAN'T FOOL ME TWICE.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17787169
Yes, he can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17787169
I doubt it, for a troll like Ryukishi that would be very predictable. It wouldn't be fun, and maybe not even a mystery, just an adventure with an interesting twist. Perhaps more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17786569
It's not translated. Just that one scene was done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17787169
Nah it'll be the reverse this time. Instead of one character pretending to be two, we'll have two characters pretending to be one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17783414
Cute butt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17787169
At least we can be fairly certain >>17783404 is actually female, what with the visible cleavage and all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788204
Ugly post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788204
Cute post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788243
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788222
>implying Ryukishi isn't going to troll you all again.
I wonder how everyone reacted here when they discovered that Beatrice was a boy. Surely there were some guys who killed themselves for the shock.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788243
I disagree.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788263
"Beatrice" isn't a boy. Yasu's gender doesn't control the meta world body.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788261
You're welcome. Personally I think Asaki and Yuu are the cutest looking of the new characters.
>>17788271
I don't care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788307
Okay anon, If you said so.
>>17788316
I disagree.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788331
I just provided proof. Meta world Beato has a female body.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788316
I'm hyped for the fanpictures.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788337
Me too. I hope there are enough talented artists left among the fandom who'd be interested in the new WTC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788334
And I said it's okay, anon. If you believe is true...

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788342
There was a lack of satisfying Umineko stuff compared to Higurashi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788352
Higurashi had a successful anime that accounts for a majority of its fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788334
>character in imaginary world inside an imaginary world can have any body he wants
Who would have thought!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788361
Meanwhile Umineko never got an anime.

[Anonymous No.]

I choose to believe in these boobs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788365
I had thought, just a season 1, favorite anime ever made.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788367
Sad!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788365
The pachinko games are the closest thing we'll ever get to an Umineko anime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyUSt7OTC0U

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788370
I actually discovered Higurashi with the anime.

Because I had no idea what was going on there, so I decided to read my very first visual novel.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788370
If I hadn't read the vn I would've understood nothing in the anime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788376
Just like me! A friend from school recommend me high and umi and that's how I discovered the VNs.
>>17788380
Maybe you are too dumb

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788372
There's nothing sad about a good pair of tits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788385
I do like how the anime shows rather than suggesting. Like Rika getting punished for when Satoko intruded in the shrine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788391
Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788398
What? Why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788331
Of course. The meta-world is the world of magic and witches. Conceptual beings can give themselves whatever body they want.
>>17788343
>>17788362
>Not believing in witches.
>2 fucking 017.

Kekekekekekekekekek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788490
>Kekekekekekekekekek.
You meant *cackle* *cackle* *cackle*?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788490
Which makes you wonder why witch's like Bern, Lambda, and Featherine chose the forms they did.

[Anonymous No.]

I found a thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPWPygVV0uk

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788499
I have a theory, but it's really unpleasant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788503
Well, don't just leave off like that. Let's hear it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788499
Lambda wants to be cute and *pop*. Accidentally, her form is the cutest and the *popest*.

Bern have some nebulous ties to her previous incarnation, Rika. She wants a Rika body. She got one.

Featherine is just 'shitty boobies ojou sama #42', which goes with her character of being a shitty character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788508
Shitkastel and 34 look like kids to be underestimated by their rivals. That way, they can lure unexpecting wizards into their struggles for Featherine's amusement and their own.

In other words, they're baits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788509
>shitty boobies ojou sama #42
Is that really the first thing that springs to your mind with her design?

>>17788514
Possibly, but I think >>17788509 is more likely. After all, Bern's the only one working for Featherine, and only during the times when she's awake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788521
But Lambdadelta copies Bratkastel, so I wouldn't be surprised if she looked small just to copy the cat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788525
They don't really look all that much like young girls though depending on the artist. Pic related.

[Anonymous No.]

Most boring theory I have ever read.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788543
That's not enough to prove me wrong. To convince me, you'll need more Bern boobs. I mean more pictures.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788514
Nah. Lambda hasn't got any meaningful connection to Auauauauauau Featherine.

Lambda just has the popest form just because she is the kind of girl to take the popest form, to the point of tackiness (remember that conversely that absolutely everyone else, she teleports with a fucking explosion).

Bern is a grown up Rika. Rika always wanted to be grown up.

>>17788521
Sure, Featherine gives you that vague vibes of being judged for your sins.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788549
>>17788543
Why do you idiots always ruin everything?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788549
Don't worry, I've got plenty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788571
Still not convinced, I need a little bit more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788578

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788571
>>17788578
Don't ignore me dammit. Fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788585
You convince me. She indeed look like a slightly older Rika with boobs.
Like something a kid would imagine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788592
I wouldn't be surprised if Bernkastel gave herself that form because of Rika's lingering desire to have breasts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788610
Honestly, I suspect the same as well. Bratkastel looks like the ideal version of Rika : cold, cool, big, with boobs.
A chuuni villain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788613
So Lambda wanted to look pop and cute, while Bern wanted... boobs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788620
I guess so.

Boy I sure do hate Bernkastel. Everything about her pisses me off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788624
She's a real petty jerk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788629
And she really seems to have it in for Ange.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788629
A manipulative jerk who looks like what is probably the character in Higurashi who suffered the most.
It would be like if Disney made a sequel to Bambi in which Bambi grows a moustache and start deporting faggots in concentration camps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788521
I really love Featherine and it's sad people don't show her much love.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788635
Same. She's a really interesting character and it's a shame she's so underappreciated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788646
It's probably because she was introduced so late and she is an older female so no one likes her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788646
She's not interesting as a character. An old as fuck lady who forget stuff, and is basically a self-insert of some supposely great writer (nevermind the fact that self-insert is fanfiction.net-trash level)? No thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788634
I would watch it and write fanfiction about it. Don't shit on Hitler Bambi plz.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788664
Don't self-insert as a super duper magician who can wreck anyone instantly and has horns to remember how awesome she is.

[Anonymous No.]

"yawn"

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788666
As a moderately successful fanfiction writer, I self wherever I want and for whatever I want, faggot.

Though I wouldn't dream to self-insert in Umineko. This shit is so meta even my self-insert would be raped by Bernkastel because she is two meta-levels higher than my self-inserts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788679
Successful doesn't mean good.
I saw fanfictions that were objectively trash (with reddit memes shoved at random) who were popular.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788679
>fanfiction writer
Funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788656
Probably. Virgilia is similarly unpopular despite being around for so long.

[Anonymous No.]

Post the best foreshadowing in the franchise. Pic related.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788694
I can't, unfortunately. I don't have any.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788684
I write good. I write in england language please. Very good, very well, people even say it's good england language.

I even wrote a Fanfiction for Umineko. People seemed to like it, but I need to go back to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788707
I don't believe you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788715
Dresden: The Witch of Miracle

Please don't be a faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788728
I was expecting you to post a link so I can report you and get you banned, but okay. I will read it quickly

[Anonymous No.]

I just started the read and I'm already laughing 10/10

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788745
no bully. bully is for bad people

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788764
Well, I'm evil. For now on your name is going to be Harry "Harry Dresden, Private Investigator" Mage pffffff

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788728
>spacebattles
Lol no. That thing is just a giant circlejerk that eats any shit as long as it comes from them, but if it comes from anywhere else, it's automatically trash.

[Anonymous No.]

Gosh it's cringy af anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788791
>anon
I mean Harry

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788791
>>17788780
>>17788782
bully

Nah, seriously, don't read it if you don't want to. It's not important. I tried.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788656
Figures. Hanyu was introduced even later yet everyone loves her. I suppose only young girls get to be popular.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788804
Dont give up, Harry. I'm sure someday you will write something decent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788825
Thanks for that, anon. You're a pretty good guy finally, if one remove the layers of jerks and dumbasses.

[Anonymous No.]

"Demonreach"

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788838

[Anonymous No.]

I'm ded it was enjoyable to read. Keep writing comedy like this and you're going to succeed lol
Seeya later Harry
>>17788855
D E M O N R E A C H HAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.]

Is the Higanbana VN any better than the manga? I remember reading a few chapters years ago and not enjoying it all that much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788923
It is tremendously better. Kyukishi only used the manga as an inspiration: the VN is actually far better in every single way.

Though you should make the distinction between the first night and the second night. The first night is one of the most cynical VN I have ever read. It is dark, and melancholic, and somber. It is, by far, the darkest Ryukishi work to date, and it is very good.

The second night has one good chapter, but the backslash forced Ryukishi to back down and write a happy-go-lucky story. The second night read like Touhou: theoretical bad people having tea together and just having fun. Not very interesting.

The first night is perhaps one of the better Ryukishi to date. It is deep. Read it, absolutely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788923
It's pretty short, so you should try to read at least the first stories and see for yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788620
delete this!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788923
2nd night was pure cringe all the way through. i found especially the last story with sunglasses-kun to be the most laughable. it was simply soo ridiculous, i couldn't even get angry, let alone laugh at its absurdity.
>>17788963
this anon has done his homework and knows his stuff.
>1st night for the win

[Anonymous No.]

>>17789171
No. Embrace the big fat cat tats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788694
How about the one in Episode 1 where Krauss tells Nanjo that his father is already dead?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788866
How can you be so cruel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17789586
>>17789586
They're just looking for attention by making an ass of themselves. Ignore an report.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17789586
Do you really want to know? Everything started when I was 8 year old, of a day like any other, that night I didn't feel like sleeping alone so I went to my parents room and asked if I could sleep with them. I got in the middle between the two, hugging my dad, and I close my eyes but I couldn't sleep. Something in my head was bugging me "does Santa Claus exist?" I suddenly asked. Silence. I thought they were sleeping but then my mother asked me why I was asking such thing, I tell them that my brother mocked me about it the other day and I was sad. My dad told me then the terrible truth "Santa doesn't exist"... he explained that sometimes he or my uncle dressed like him in the middle of the night and then they put gifts on the christmas tree to feed my illusions, when I "secretly" went down the stairs at night to spy. I didn't say anything, I just wait to fall asleep. I never felt more ashamed in my life, my parents, the persons I most trusted... betrayed me. I swore revenge to this unfair world and everyone, everyone must pay the consequences! and this is why I am evil. It's all Santa's fault, fucking jolly red fatso.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17789978
But Santa does exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17790037

[Anonymous No.]

>>17788694
When Battler is given the note with a blank spot for the name of the person he loves and he jokes about writing Beatrice in it.

[Anonymous No.]

Saving this thread from extinction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17790527
Selfcest is hot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17790527
Does Shannon have the best tits in WTC?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17790527
>saving this thread from extinction in page 10

[Anonymous No.]

>>17790037
>Santa Claus only visits nice children, you know
The meta doesn't exist in this world, anon. My dad wouldn't lie to me, also online bullying doesn't count. Even if I'm a supervillain inside of the internet I'm still the nicest person irl, and I never received any coal for Christmas, yet.

[Anonymous No.]

its the era of usagi. seacats are old news.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17791110
>seacats are old news
No shit, sherlock.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17790606
Yes