Touhou Math

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Is Nitori best at math?

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>>17712084
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Bohemian_Archive_in_Japanese_Red/Ran
Can Nitori calculate the width of the Sanzu River?

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>>17712098
Most likely!

Who is the best touhou at math?

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>>17712102
Eirin because she's the best at everything.

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>>17712115
Forgot about her

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Yukari is literally the best at math in Gensokyo

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Nitori doesn't need math. She makes all her measurements by eye, so impressive!

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>>17712691
Yukari is a programmer, Ran is a computer.
The latter is probably better at Math.

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I'd wager Ran is probably the best at maths. If not her then Eirin but I think Eirin specializes more in medicine

Nitori is one hell of an engineer though

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So basically the order goes:
1. Ran
2. Eirin
3. Yukari
4. Nitori
5. Patchouli
6. ???

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>>17712712
What are you doing with that Nitori?
please be careful!

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>>17712098
>Does that mean your master... is better at numbers than you are?
>It goes without saying that there is no comparison. I could never understand much less solve Lady Yukari's equations.
The number of people who didn't bother to read the article is hilariously high.

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>>17716585
The number of people that take Aya's filthy tabloid as the truth is hilariously high.

FAKE NEWS

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>>17716585
True. Its not like a computer truly understands what it is computing. Then again, Yukari can't do all those calculations her self, that's why she has a Ran to do them for her.

I can make up an equation on the spot and even know what its application would be, but I don't know what the graph of it would look like.

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>>17716782
But then, you are better at math; the computer only excels at computing the calculations, it can't (to my very limited understanding of computers) even write proofs let alone come up with new ones.

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>>17716772

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>It goes without saying that there is no comparison. I could never understand much less solve Lady Yukari's equations.
>Lady Yukari would determine not only the Sanzu River's width but also the depth of the bottom of Avici.
>She'd find out how long it would take Ursa Major to devour the North Star, all in an instant.
>Normally all she does is sleep, but the instant she opens her mouth, she gives orders no one else would think up.
>>17716782
>Then again, Yukari can't do all those calculations her self, that's why she has a Ran to do them for her.
WHY THE FUCK DON'T YOU EVEN BOTTER TO READ THE ARTICLE?

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>>17716585
>>17712098

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>>17712691
Yep. You don't determine the existence of and subsequently actually construct a self-sustaining barrier between universes and matter fields on it with boundary conditions that are consistent with all known laws of reality by just being a "programmer".

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after reviewing the evidence i have determined that yes nitori is in fact the best at math. thanks op and jpsies this has been enlightening

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>>17718621
The applied physics knowledge to work molecular structure of all matter requires a lot of mathematics and intelligence.

Her name literally means "Intelligence of eternally clear brightness over infinitely extended area" and refers her as the mind of god. She probably even invented mathematics for the Lunarians...

Eirin is best at math in Gensokyo

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>>17718364
The only good thing about that fanime is that almost everyone has cowtits.

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>>17718927
Medicine is basically all trial and error, and rediscovering what mathematicians did centuries ago.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8137688
It'd be hilarious if it weren't so pathetic. I don't know how smart Eirin is exactly but medical knowledge wouldn't be something she'd boast about.

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>>17716782
Yukari could and does. What part of "manipulates all borders" do you not understand? Anything that would otherwise elude her can be understood through a simple breaking of the border between understanding and misunderstanding.

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>>17718621
To be honest, once she gained her full abilities, she can always just "cheat" by artificially increasing her intelligence through border breaking. How much of her knowledge is actually something she learned versus how much is in essence downloaded into her mind is suspect.

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>>17720538
Hint: there's no difference.

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>>17720542

How smart is Alice?

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>>17720662
Who?

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>>17720526
>I don't know how smart Eirin is
Smarter than Yukari, she's literally smartest in Gensokyo. She consider everyone else to be inferior to her in terms of knowledge and intelligence.

>medical knowledge wouldn't be something she'd boast about
She doesn't. She's literally capable of making any drug, no need to boast about it.

You're making it sound like she's limited to medicine/chemical math (or even experiments) while she only does it to help the rabbits and Kaguya. She's capable of way beyond that.

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>>17720769
Eirin is perfect. I love her and want to marry her and give her children.

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Some other nerds...

Renko is a physics major. Rika, Rikako, Chiyuri, Yumemi, nothing needs to be said. Sanae and Sumireko don't compare to the rest ITT, but one is a "science type", the other is a low effort natural genius of sorts, and have the benefit of schooling, putting them a league ahead of most Gensokyo residents already.

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>>17712102
Yukari

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>>17712084
Have you read about Ran?
Ran's like a fucking supercomputer.

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Ran does extreme Sudoku for fun.

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>>17722719
>>17721771
>>17721488
>>17721421
None of you heard of Eirin? Touhou newfags....

Reminder, Eirin Yagokoro means: "Intelligence of eternally clear brightness over infinitely extended area"

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>>17722802
I can name my daughter "Smarterthaneinstein Quantumphysicsmajor" too, faggot. Don't mean nothing.

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>>17720769
Has Eirin demonstrated genius of any kind that isn't medical?
Yeah didn't think so. I wouldn't expect someone like you to understand the mathematical ramifications of the creation of the boundary anyways.

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>>17722821

Hi dad.

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>>17722868
That's purely magic and not mathematical.
While we're on magic topic I wouldn't then expect you to understand the fact that Eirin sealed the whole Earth preventing anything or anyone from reaching or leaving it.
Also, she replaced the real Moon with a fake one that was able to mislead the heroines with an illusion.

She considered all of it "weak" and effortless work and wasn't even close to what she's actually capable of.
Eirin said herself she's superior to everyone in Gensokyo in terms of intelligence and that includes Yukari.

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>>17723099
>purely magic
>somehow consistent with the actual real world
Try again.

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>>17722882

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>>17723156
I expected nothing more from yukarifags, you have no choice but to accept your inferiority.
Leave and get back to hibernating.

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>>17723184
Wow not even one single counterargument. Run along now little subhuman lunarian.

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>>17723196
Poor you, answering my post with a dab of hypocrisy.¨
>Run along now little subhuman lunarian.
Haha! I'm laughing at this. Let me remind you poor Youkai that Lunarians created the Youkai and is the only reason they exist. L

Lunarians also have superhuman stamina and abilities beyond youkai and possess some of the most advanced technology that there is.
Try again.

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>>17723228
Don't get so worked up that you start mangling your post, silly filth.
Keep making non-sequiturs, I'll wait until you actually present any argument and evidence about Eirin's purported intelligence. By the way, all those shit she did in Gensokyo is literally just magic so you basically shot yourself in the foot with your previous few posts while Yukari accomplished something with her magic that was actually consistent with real world logic.
Absolutely typical of lunarian dumbassery.

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>>17723272
Are you salty about the fact that Youkai's were created by lunarians literally just to regulate the Earth's filth?
I already stated few of the things she accomplished. She even created the Hourai Elixir and made it irreversible on purpose.
Youkais are beyond subhumans to lunarians. Go back to crying yourself to sleep in your dumbass gaps.

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>>17723310
>Youkai's were created by lunarians
Enough about your headcanons and stupid non-sequiturs.
>She even created the Hourai Elixir and made it irreversible on purpose.
Let's say for a minute that this somehow isn't a product of magic (which it is, by the way). In what way is this more impressive than sewing literal universe together? Give me something concrete instead of talking streams of steamy shit out of your lunarian ass.

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>>17723327
>Enough about your headcanons and stupid non-sequiturs.
Have you literally never played Imperishable Night?
"Youkai and magic were created by Lunarians in order to regulate the earth's "filth"". Let me send you wiki since you are unable to play the game or read for yourself in that matter.

https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Imperishable_Night/Story/Scarlet_Team%27s_Scenario

https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Youkai

> In what way is this more impressive than sewing literal universe together?
It isn't. But then again, being able to make any sort of elixir (let's say immortality) and having intelligence comparable to God, I think she could accomplish it herself.
And the fact that you're holding "sewing universe together" as non-magic while considering an immortality elixir magic is laughable. Creating a fake moon from scratch and creating a barrier so strong that no one, not even Yukari with her gaps can escape earth or enter from the outside.
Yukari is able to only manipulate boundaries and were reinforced by previous youkais, the boundaries were created by humans and not youkai.
Poor you exaggerating all your points while you've probably not read a single page of a manga, game text or wiki to support them. Take the L, keep lurking and try again some other time.

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>>17723393
>the boundaries were created by humans and not youkai.

Excuse me for this, I'm tired. I meant the Great Hakurei Barrier was created by humans.

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>>17712084
Naturally, no.

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>>17723716
Cirnopai

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So Nitori is the best at math

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Holy shit. I like how Eirinfags make Eirin out to be best at everything and perfect like this, yet get defensive whenever someone inevitably calls her a Mary Sue.
>>17723393
>"Youkai and magic were created by Lunarians in order to regulate the earth's "filth"
Because everything said during danmaku banters must be truth, right. And you forgot to mention that CiLR offers a different explanation of youkai origins.

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>>17724154
>Holy shit. I like how Eirinfags make Eirin out to be best at everything and perfect like this
Are you unironically implying Yukarifags don't do the same?
I like that when dumbasses like you mentally block all the hypocrisy and bullshit said by previous yukariposter that you could say the same about and only focus on my stuff when I'm comparing eirin to yukari using straight out facts and not talk out my ass like the average yukariposter does here.

>Because everything said during danmaku banters must be truth, right
If you actually played it and pay attention to the context you would see this is likely true and not some bant that they usually say.
It is widely known and accepted that the youkai were created by the lunarians. But you youkaislovers with the ego love denying it for the sake of looking superior.
With this retarded logic I might aswell deny obvious things about youkai because that's the same as you.

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>>17723411
The quote you quoted didn't appear in the article you linked though. Closest is "Most powers such as magic were originally those of the moon", which is said by Kaguya so you might as well cite Hitler on whether if the holocaust has happen or not.
>It isn't
So why bring it up? Did you get confused? Does that even have anything to do with mathematics? I don't think anyone can be so tired as to not even understand the whole point of the argument.
>And the fact that you're holding "sewing universe together" as non-magic while considering an immortality elixir magic is laughable.
You still don't get it do you? Literally anything happening within Gensokyo is magic by definition, while making the boundary itself consistent with the real world isn't since magic doesn't work there.
>Yukari is able to only manipulate boundaries and were reinforced by previous youkais, the boundaries were created by humans and not youkai.
The boundary was created by humans to seal youkai while Yukari actually made Gensokyo; you know, actually sewed universes together. These two constructions are effectively different things despite being archaically referred to by the same name. Don't further confuse yourself with thinking; you're obviously not very used to it.
>>17723411
It actually wasn't. The "Hakurei barrier" was created by humans. Yukari made it great in the sense that she created an entire universe in which all known laws of reality still apparently works past the barrier. Again, I don't expect you to understand how this is mathematically significant.

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>>17724736
>The quote you quoted didn't appear in the article you linked though.
I linked two of them. And it does say so in the other. Are you too retarded to read now?
>Literally anything happening within Gensokyo is magic
But the elixir wasn't created within Gensokyo? And it was made well before it.
>So why bring it up?
Because I brought up plenty of other things your monkey brain apparently couldn't quote, but that specific one was the only thing your IQ was capable of comprehending therefore argue against, how sad.
>Yukari actually made Gensokyo
She didn't do it alone, and it's only mentioned that she's "tied to the creation". It is quoted by Yuyuko that "not even Yukari could create a barrier of this level by herself.". If she can't create a barrier how is she going to sew together universes, let alone create one?
Your whole point comes down to the fact that humans were able to create something Yukari was incapable of which only shows that she's inferior outside gensokyo.
>Again, I don't expect you to understand how this is mathematically significant.
Good projecting right there.
After all this you have still not disproved the fact that Eirin is more intelligent and better at math than Yukari, other than your dumbass "You need to use your knowledge to do something in order to prove you're smart", we don't rate knowledge by accomplishment especially due to the fact that Eirin is highly capable of doing the same thing. As a lunarian Eirin did not have the desire or was given a task to do such things, she's not an engineer or a youkai desperate to hide.
I'll leave this here for you for a couple of days to process since you seem incapable of understanding anything beyond your ego and thickheaded denial. Thanks for changing my view on the ignorant yukarifags, I dislike you filth even more. I'll be off to study some TQFT and CFT. Oh and "I don't expect you to understand". I won't be posting for a few more days so don't try to make fun of yourself on the next post.

Thanks for letting me destroy you once again, always a pleasure.

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HOLY SHIT YUKARIFAGS BTFO

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>>17712084
post the beaver one

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B-B-BUT MUH BORDERS! ;_;

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>>17723716
Cirno coming out on top, as per usual.

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>This level of destruction
how will yukari faggot recover from this

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>>17725182
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>>17725568
jesus christ crossboarders fucking go

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>>17725609
>609
Ebin:DDD

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>>17722882
underrated

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>>17724858
I was at work so I didn't have the time to read your dumb shit and hand your dumbass back to you over and over again.
>But the elixir wasn't created within Gensokyo? And it was made well before it.
Granted, that still doesn't mean jack shit in terms of math.
>Because I brought up plenty of other things
Such as? Creating youkai? It was humans that created them. Here allow me to breakdown what was supposedly a simple paragraph that you apparently couldn't understand.
>according to Yukari Yakumo it was the moon's dim light which gave birth to the youkai by causing humanity to fear and create legends about them
Human created youkai with their fear. If anything this makes the creation of the barrier all the more impressive as it severs the need for youkai to depend on human emotions.
>while Kaguya Houraisan claims that youkai and magic were created by Lunarians in order to regulate the earth's "filth".
Good job leaving out "while Kaguya Houraisan claims" bit. This dumb shit was spoken right before a battle of course this is at best an exaggeration.
>She didn't do it alone, and it's only mentioned that she's "tied to the creation". It is quoted by Yuyuko that "not even Yukari could create a barrier of this level by herself."
Granted just proving the existence of something like this can be done is the main mathematical feat that I was referring to throughout this entire shitshow. Or are you going to suppose that she didn't do that alone either?
>Your whole point comes down to the fact that humans were able to create something Yukari was incapable of which only shows that she's inferior outside gensokyo.
It isn't, and the boundary made by Yukari and the humans were completely different. Conflating the primitive "just put the shit we don't want" kind of barrier that were made by humans and Yukari's "containing a literally an entire universe" kind of barrier shows how absolutely brainless you are.
>After all this you have still not disproved the fact that Eirin is more intelligent and better at math than Yukari
Need I quote Akyuu's chronicles? The proof rests on your shoulders, idiot.
>we don't rate knowledge by accomplishment No one is. Creation and even understanding the existence of something like the Hakurei barrier is in itself merely a testament.
>especially due to the fact that Eirin is highly capable of doing the same thing
Even though the fact remains that there is still no definitive canonical proof that Eirin has done anything of the sort.
>As a lunarian Eirin did not have the desire or was given a task to do such things, she's not an engineer or a youkai desperate to hide.
Yes. She's a doctor, which is a lot worse in terms of mathematics than engineers like NItori.
> I'll be off to study some TQFT and CFT
Now that's interesting. Let's see how much you know. Post even one single interesting result in TQFT and CFT (each) and I'll give you the benefit of the doubt regarding Eirin's purported intelligence.

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>>17727068
Let me fix this one typo before he sperg out about it.
>we don't rate knowledge by accomplishment
No one is. Creation and even understanding the existence of something like the Hakurei barrier is in itself merely a testament.

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>>17727068
Physicists shouldn't be allowed to make judgements concerning mathematical abilities. Even engineers (usually) know their place, unlike people like you.

Nice job not countering a single one of the other guy's arguments by the way, I wouldn't expect anything else from you.

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>>17727155
>Nice job not countering a single one of the other guy's arguments
I did though, unless you're referring to the voices in your head. Pretty ironic coming from someone who did nothing except deflecting.
>>>/math/
>Physicists shouldn't be allowed to make judgements concerning mathematical abilities.
Nor anyone who doesn't possess the phenotype, which I know an undergrad like you don't.

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Is this the Nitori thread

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>>17727068

Yuyuko is wrong. Yukari can make even larger barriers by herself, see SCoOW - she created the fantasy-reality barrier, which is much larger than the Hakurei barrier.

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If Yukari is so smart and powerful why did she lose against the moonbitches?

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The state of Yukari after reading this thread.

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>>17727248
yes. she is best at math

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>>17727177
Holy shit you're assblasted!

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I was wondering why this thread got so active

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>>17724658
I pointed out a couple of flaws in your "reasoning" and you responded with nothing but logical fallacies. If that's your idea of an argument, I'd rather not waste time by casting pearls before swine.

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>>17727534
>fantasy-reality barrier
That's effectively the same thing as the great Hakurei barrier though isn't it?

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Gapfags.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwDYCEe6RXI

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>>17723099
>Eirin sealed the whole Earth preventing anything or anyone from reaching or leaving it.

And then a rabbit came down to Earth from the moon.
And then Yukari sent a crow from the Earth to the moon.
And then Reimu, Marisa, Remilia, Sakuya, and some fairy maids went to the moon in a shitty rocket.
And then Yukari went to the moon.
And then a bunch of them came back to Earth from the moon.
And then Yuyuko and Youmu went to the moon, and then came back.
And then some more rabbits came down to Earth from the moon.
And then Reimu/Marisa/Sanae/Reisen went to the moon and came back.

Boy, that's sure some seal Eirin made.

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>>17728918
This man can't even reach Route B. Wow.

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>>17723728
you called?

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>>17728918
>Implying that the seal was set forever and not removed after a while

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>>17722882
Unironical toppest of keks.

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yukarifags on suicide watch rn

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>>17721421

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>>17721421
since Sumireko started going to Gensokyo in her dreams her real life (and presumably her school marks) suffered.
don't expect her to move past high school level knowledge through outside world education.
I'll give you that this is still beyond many inhabitants of Gensokyo.

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>>17720533
>border between understanding and misunderstanding.
JFC. There's no such thing as a border of understanding and misunderstanding.
What's next?
Border between Oppai and Flat?
Border between Purity and Sluttyness?

Are you going to feed others with secondary shit like saying that Keine's power would allow her to kill anyone by removing them out of people existence?

I am convinced fucking Yukarifags take the "everything has a border" phrase too fucking seriously.
Manipulation of borders =/= Manupulation of every word in the Dictionary that has an antonym

I fucking swear Gapfags are fucking borderline tertiaries.

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>>17720533
>border between understanding and misunderstanding.
JFC. There's no such thing as a border of understanding and misunderstanding.
What's next?
Border between Oppai and Flat?
Border between Purity and Sluttyness?

Are you going to feed others with secondary shit like saying that Keine's power would allow her to kill anyone by removing them out of existence?

I am convinced fucking Yukarifags take the "everything has a border" phrase too fucking literally.
Manipulation of borders =/= Manupulation of every word in the Dictionary that has an antonym

I fucking swear Gapfags are fucking borderline tertiaries.

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>>17730563

RENKO.

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>>17731685

>Calling ZUN a tertiary
SCoOW is direct from ZUN, not a character's perspective like PMiSS and SoPM

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>>17731685

https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Strange_Creators_of_Outer_World/Who%27s_Who_of_Humans_%26_Youkai_in_Gensokyo/Yukari_Yakumo,_Ran_Yakumo,_and_Chen

in case you want to read the actual canon

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>>17731737
>>17731742
>Yukari's ability is the "manipulation of boundaries". It's a far-too-powerful ability that can, logically speaking, affect anything. Naturally, if she put this ability to its full use it wouldn't even be a game, so for the purposes of the narrative she fights within the spellcard rules.
If anything, ZUN is too lazy to concretely define the ability himself (which honestly ain't. much of a surprise)
Leaving the
>can, logically speaking, affect anything
pretty fucking open, so he could keep using her as a plot device whenever he wanted. After all, the hag is of his favorite Meta-Mary Sue.

Regardless "Border of Understanding and Misunderstanding" is not something that fucking exists. You just lazily took the "can, logically speaking, affect anything" too literally and called it a day.

The concept of "Border of Understanding and Misunderstanding" is just some extremely vague "border" that you literally just made up on the spot based on assumptions. It's not malleable or manipulable, not even by lmaoFantasy standards. It sn't comparable to other actual defined existing borders like "Fantasy-Reality or Life-Death".

When the day comes that ZUN explicitly confirms the existence of the "Border of Understanding and Misunderstanding" refer me to the article and I'll eat my shoes.

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>>17731822
>wah I don't like it
>therefore I know better!
Kill yourself out of /jp/

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>>17732050
Wow, you really showed me.
I'm out forever, good bye.

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If this whole thread has proven anything, is that "Youkai fuck yeah" is a mental disease.

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>>17712725
Can Ran run Doom?

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I WAS HOPING THIS WOULD BE A NITORI THREAD

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Kapapa kapapa nitori

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>>17732646
>>17732773
Not midget jewish sluts allowed

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>>17732646
>>17732773

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Why do people find math difficulty?

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>>17732978
They probably give up half way after struggling with a problem for more than 30 seconds. Also they do not study at all and believe math is nothing but a natural ability.

Then there's chinks and pajeets who were forced to learn it as young then are unable to understand why other people struggle with it.

The point is: people find it difficult depending on background, those who give up and study purely because it's forced in school will almost always say it's difficult while those who struggled but kept studying will realize it's not difficult, it's just the way it is

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>>17732782
>>17732967
rude

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>>17712084
Sweaty Nitori!

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If you can't do this you're literally human garbage

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>>17750530
>Wiener process

HAHAH WIENER

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>>17749489
PRODUCT PLACEMENT!

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>>17750580
Ebin :DDDD