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Has there ever been a song as good as hers?
https://soundcloud.com/user-801914959/touhou-16-okina-mataras-theme-hidden-four-seasons

>> No.17458565

>>17458554
Yes, the dancers'. Wait no. It's actually better.

>> No.17458570

That theme just made me cum.

>> No.17458572

>>17458554
Her Stage 6 > Extra for me.
Anyway, I think the soundtrack is some kind of reverse LoLK (For me at least) in a sense that the boss themes are way more interesting than the stage themes.

>> No.17458584

I like the EX over the stage 6 theme, but the stage 6 theme is still good.

>> No.17458614

>>17458554
This reminds me of Necrofantasia for some reason. How fitting.

>> No.17458650

>>17458614
I read that she was actually a sage of gensokyo.

>> No.17458762

It's always hard to tell how they'll stick but this is the best stage 6 boss theme since UFO or maybe even SA to me

>> No.17458908

>>17458554
I admit, I almost cried at 2:35

This is one of the most beautiful pieces in Touhou history

>> No.17459064

I'm not really feeling it. It's very nice, but I honestly just think it's kind of lacking. My favorite was probably the stage 4 theme.
Perhaps I just have bad taste.

>> No.17459088

This is the full ost https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoy_JAV5pQ4&index=11&list=PLi9BKWWSufBHL73ydp3SrouJrtzRchNTl

Think the Divine Beasts is still my favourite

>> No.17459209

I still love Prismriver theme the most, nothing else even came close

>> No.17459374

Am I the only one who loves Stage 4 boss? Very punchy and energetic, certainly not what I was expecting from winter

>> No.17459555

>>17458554
Honestly i don't like this song at all?
I don't like ZUN's new music in general, i think he went bad after Fairy Wars.

>> No.17459619

>>17459374
I like it

>> No.17459620

>>17458554
Personally I found the raw amount of FUCK emanating from Junko's theme more appealing. I guess I still need to listen to Okina's one for a few more hours to form a concrete opinion about it.

>> No.17459667

Reminds me of
https://youtu.be/411--Pg9LjE

>> No.17459692

>>17458554
The EX Boss theme is better, I've missed ZUNPiano.

https://my.mixtape.moe/szzgyk.opus

>> No.17460055

>>17458614
It isn't just you, it actually uses a lot of motifsv of necrofantasia and changes the end of the phrase.
The only thing that I find really interesting about this song is the bass line.

>> No.17460269

>>17458554
I actually don't like it, feels very meh and nothing grand, catchy or special like every other final boss bar Miko who's theme is worse.

>> No.17460342

>>17459620
Junko's theme doesn't feel as energetic as some of the prior themes like Sukuna and Okuu's. Not that it's bad or anything, I like it a lot.

>> No.17460370

>>17458650
I hope she's explicitly referred as one and not like Kasen who is only implied. I'm interested to see someone with that position other than Yukarin and their role in Gensokyo.

>> No.17460387

I really hate the guitar sound he started using in DDC. Necrofantasia flows much better after the beginning. The descending thing near the beginning is good new harmonic territory

>> No.17460428

>>17458554
Idk man, it's good but not catchy or notorious about anything

The only 2 boss themes I remember clearly without making an effort from TH13 and onwards are Shinmyoumaru and Clownpiece

The stage themes are as good as always though

>> No.17460472
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17460472

>>17458614
The theme and some parts of the ritornello has the same chord progression.

>> No.17460559

>>17458554
Little Princess says hello. Okina's theme is pretty amazing, tho.

>> No.17460970

I'm honestly not hearing Necrofantasia at all

>> No.17461026

>>17458554
I really didn't like it at first, but the more I listen the more I listen the more I like it. That's been happening a lot for me this game, actually. I think it's because ZUN dialed back the emphasis on distinct, iconic melodies and relied more on good overall composition.

>> No.17461034

The final boss theme sounds like something wanwan would compose

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>>17458554
First 30 seconds are kinda like a bad remix of necrophantasia, but after that it's fantastic.

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17461776

>>17460370
>and not like Kasen who is only implied.
What

>> No.17461806

>>17461776
I say imply because I know there is usually someone who'd refute me if I say it outright.

>> No.17461838

>>17460970
The only part that resembles Necrofantasia is at 2:20

>> No.17461854

https://soundcloud.com/user-801914959/touhou-16-extra-stage-theme-a-door-that-cant-be-opened-anymore
Does the beginning sound like True Administrator to anyone? Is ZUN just rehashing old songs now?

>> No.17461908

>>17458554
Nothing in the game comes close to the creepiness of Eternity's theme, in my opinion. Stage 4 and boss 6 among others are really enjoyable to listen to though, like stage 1 and Aunn's theme.

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>>17458614
Literally the most recognizable part of Necrofantasia remixed at 0:11-0:30.

>> No.17461982

>>17461854
ZUN reuses similar things pretty often. True Administrator's piano opener was already extremely reminiscent of Demystify Feast. Stage 4 and Okina's stage 6 theme use the same melody as well.

>> No.17462023

>>17461972
You're exaggerating, the opener is definitely the most defining part of Necrofantasia.

>> No.17463453

>>17459555
I think you just have a bad case of shit taste, my friend

>> No.17463463

I think the opening is a bit too reminiscent of Junko's theme, but beside that it's pretty good. I'm not a fan of the awful synth guitar ZUN keeps using, though. Hope he drops it soon.

>> No.17463656

The EX theme is shit, the depressing piano is out of place and it doesn't feel final enough, not to mention the spellcards in the stage and the fight were complete shite and lazy as fuck. The last spell is just a non-spell with donuts, the survival is fucking nemuno's first card with a lazer. All in all I'm fine with re-facing the final boss but this extra feels like baby's first fangame

>> No.17465088

>>17458554
Well, one word of advice if you like her themw.
Listen to it as you fall asleep and don't think so deeply. Wait. No. Don't think at all.

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17466246

>that stage 4 BGM

>> No.17466346

>>17465088
>implying anyone who uses /jp/ has the mental capacity to think

On an unrelated note, I find it cool how ZUN can kinda balance the OST in terms of half of it being feel-good/light and happy and the other half being creepy and edgy and atmospheric/

>> No.17467245

I don't know I didn't find HSiS soundtrack that good, it might just be because i don't find that the tools used for recording it goes well with the overall atmosphere I felt the themes were trying to create.

>> No.17467419

i was pleasantly surprised by the music of stages 4-ex after hating most of the trial music
zun still has the capability of making songs as good as the ones from eosd to ufo, he just needs to do it more

and to stop using horrible instrument samples, holy SHIT i hate the general music style after td

>> No.17467498

I'm in love with her Extra theme. I still have some songs that I prefer over hers but this is definitely one of my favorites now.

>> No.17467944

I'm surprised all these people are pointing out Necrofantasia yet nobody noticed Sleeping Terror in the main melody.

>> No.17468200

Am I the only one to feel a little weird with Stage 4 theme?? like it wanted to sound like something I've heard before. Oh and it's comfy as heck.
Something kinda similar happens with Okina theme

>>17459555
ZUN music world went off with TD.
You have to appreciate that it never stopped being ZUN-like quality.
Exactly what this anon points out >>17467419.
> holy SHIT i hate the general music style after td
Things just don't sound the same anymore, and I'm pretty sad about this. Things are different now. That's why I don't await for new music anymore, didn't hype for his 2 new solo albums...

>> No.17468216

>>17467944
Dunno if it's just me but it also gave me True Administrator vibes at points.

>> No.17468362

Stage 3 theme is best theme.

>> No.17470093

>>17468200
TD still had Night Sakura of Dead Spirits and Desire Drive. I've heard good arrangements of Legend of the Great Gods, too.

>> No.17470131

>>17468200
>didn't hype for his 2 new solo albums
Which were excellent?

>> No.17471405

You can probably improve every song in 14-16 just by replacing the guitars with trumpets.

>> No.17472101

>>17460387
I know what you mean, but it didn't actually bother me in Okina's theme. The ZUNguitar sounded much more jarring at the start of Narumi's theme (which is a shame because the melody was pretty kickass).

>> No.17472111

>>17471405
I don't remember any egregious guitars in 15.

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17472128

>>17458554
I really like it. It fits how fucking cocksure she is.

>> No.17474444

It's decent. Better than Hecatia's trash theme at least.

Nevertheless, ZUN is washed up.

>> No.17474549

>>17460472
I noticed that. Sick as fuck.

>> No.17474617

I don't like it.

>> No.17474648

>>17472128
She can be sure of my cock!

>> No.17475617

I finally understand what it is about her theme(s) that bothers me so much: they're really fucking short. I mean, compare Junko's theme to them for example, her one kind of loops once then gets even more intense before looping for good at about 6 minutes, while both of Okina's themes are only about 3 minutes long, which is pretty unusual for a final boss as far I can remember.

>> No.17476882

>>17471405
You can improve them by replacing the drums with the ones from late pcb to ufo.
Hell, you can even use lolk's drumkit in hsifs and it'd sound much better.
>>17472111
Junko's theme had one.

>> No.17476897

>>17475617
Final boss themes are usually only about 3 minutes long before they loop.

>> No.17477163

>>17476897
I don't have my 2hu playlist here due to HDD fuckups but I'm pretty sure that everything since UFO at least has been longer than that.

>> No.17477199

>>17477163
Byakuren's Theme loops after around 3 minutes.
Miko's Theme loops after around 3 minutes.
Shinmyoumaru's Theme loops after around 3 and a half minutes.

Junko's Theme is the only one that's stretched out to around 4 and a half minutes.

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>>17439488

>> No.17485838

>>17468200
I actually like Post-UFO music better that older tracks, but all of them are great i their own right.

I think the problem people see is that newer tracks aren't as "remixeable" as older ones.

>> No.17485904

I'm not a big fan of the NToJ electric guitars and I prefer ZUNpets to UFO sax, but other than that, I have no complaints. I probably enjoyed White Traveller in general more than any other of the game songs that he's made in the past few years.

>> No.17485950

>>17485838
His music is getting more complex, and there's been 16 years since EoSD. There's been time for the older games to gain traction, which can't be said about his new generation of games. There was also a big Touhou boom around 10 years ago, so the windows games that were out at the time got popular.

Touhou is gaining popularity in Japan's youth very quickly. I feel like the newer content will get much more appreciation in around a decade. Today's young Touhou fans will look at Okina or Clownpiece in ways similar to how we would look at Yukari or Cirno when they grow older.

>> No.17485968

>>17470093
The version of it on Dateless Bar Old Adam is pretty gud.

>> No.17486000

>>17485968
I really liked DBOA, I'm glad to see other people talking about it. It must have been fun for ZUN to make more music about a bar, I don't think he's done that since Uwabami Breakers.

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