/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Hey /jp/ what do you think of Cookie?
Also who's your favourite cookie character or voice actress?

[Anonymous No.]

And yes im referring to the meme that spawned from marisa and alice's cookie kiss video and and the other voice drama's

[Anonymous No.]

Kofji aneki is my wife.

[Anonymous No.]

I've been into Touhou since 2008 and I honestly have no fucking idea who or what Cookie is beyond having something to do with niconico.

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>>17347529
you must have been living under a stone

[Anonymous No.]

I save pics of her into my Reimu folder

[Anonymous No.]

I still genuinely don't know what Cookie is supposed to be other than the characters being offbrand Touhou characters

[Anonymous No.]

KNN and AZS and HSI are my fav's

I kinda like SNNN too

[Anonymous No.]

I think BNKRG is one of the few ones I could actually see becoming a genuine voice actress

[Anonymous No.]

Epic meme is epic :')

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>>17347397
I don't understand what it is. I watched the original video but I don't understand what all these alternate touhou designs and codenames are about.

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>>17347567
I agree

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>>17347529
Your calendar is wrong, anon. I recommend you to buy a new calendar.

[Anonymous No.]

>Best Marisa
Uzuki
>Best Reimu
Rurima
>Best supporting character
Fake Nyon
>Best singer
Asatsuki

[Anonymous No.]

>>17347595
I've been using the same calendar since 1999. It's still fine.

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>>17347567
>>17347597
Wrong.
Best singer and actress is Yamin.

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>>17347397
My favorite scene is the one about the gay guys.

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>>17347632
Yao Ming?

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>>17347643
That guy was very rude and didn't know Japanese at all.

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>>17347529
>>17347548
Same here. I mostly just play the games, though I still have no idea what the hell was going on in the plot of IN or LoLK, fucking Lunarians I swear to god.

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>>17347397
Just like everyone else here, I don't a whole lot about it. What I do know is pretty much what's written on KYM. Began as a Touhou fan collaboration video that was so hilariously awful people loved it (and mocked it). Eventually it grew into this spinoff fan-franchise with off-brand Touhou characters, where the viewers obsess over the girls who do the voices, as if they were idols.

The fandom seems pretty much impenetrable unless you understand Japanese and spend tons of time on niconico. I've seen the original video that started it all with subs on Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq5GRMsHhQc)), and tons of Cookie remixes on niconico. As a meme, it's pretty damn long-lived.

Why do people keep saying "UDK is fucking dead"? She's the voice actor for Marisa in the original video, right?

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>>17348135
>Why do people keep saying "UDK is fucking dead"? She's the voice actor for Marisa in the original video, right?

Yeah.

UDK being dead is a joke since she doesn't have much of a public presence. Also I think RU (the girl that plays Reimu) joked around in a livestream about it.

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>>17348135
>>17348167
https://www.japancrush.com/2014/stories/game-fans-death-threats-to-woman-who-dubbed-characters-voice.html

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>>17348241
That was about KNN though

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So I found this: https://www.reddit.com/r/touhou/wiki/nico/cookie

The person who compiled that humongous list has spent an ungodly amount of time documenting every single Cookie and Inmu tag on niconico, giving each and every one of them an explanation. There's also a full list of every Cookie actor for each season, along with tons of trivia.

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>>17348760
>reddit

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>>17347529
>>17347539
>>17347548
>>17347578
>>17347740
>>17348135

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>>17348760
So cookie is a bunch of people orbiting some online drama bullshit. Should be purged from /jp/.

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>>17348780
The ultimate newfag.

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>>17348803
(you)

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>>17348780
online drama bullshitで草

[Anonymous No.]

Cookie shit is literally quaternary humor. You can safely ignore it.

[Anonymous No.]

I was a Cookiefag until /jp/ ruined it

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>>17348832
>quaternary
What is tertiary?

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that Cookie is indirectly responsible for ZUN launching the official Touhou LINE stickers.

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Why does /f/ keep posting a couple of vidoes seeming related to this about reimu and suika and everyoen raping and shitting on marisa all the time?

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>>17349085
>What is tertiary?
Tertiary would be the derivative stuff coming out of the original cookie kiss videos. The level it's currently on is quaternary.

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>>17349100
Does /f/ need a reason better reason than "raping and shitting on anyone is shocking and kinda funny"?

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>>17349088
how even

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>>17349683
Is that all there is to the cookie parodies?

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>>17349750
Hell if I know. I skimmed through that reddit wiki and I still don't feel like I know what cookie is.

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>>17349701
It's been a year I think?
Someone tried selling LINE stickers with the cookie characters (pic related), if only for a short while before getting shut down.
Soon after, ZUN announces the launch of official LINE themes and stickers for Touhou Project on his twitter.
I don't really recall the sources but ZUN did state that he "released the official stickers because someone else was selling Touhou-like stickers on his own"
Anyway the gist is that had there been no cookie, there would be no Touhou LINE stickers.

You can check the official stickers here:
1st Pack: http://www.line-tatsujin.com/detail/a286887.html
2nd Pack: http://www.line-tatsujin.com/detail/a332716.html
"Cookie Fairy" stickers here:
http://www.line-tatsujin.com/detail/a211802.html

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>>17349813
>Anyway the gist is that had there been no cookie, there would be no Touhou LINE stickers.
That being said, they were in clear violation of the derivative guidelines and it would have been totally fine for ZUN to have just taken them down and not done anything further.

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>>17349813
>this sticker in the 2nd pack showing Kaguya slacking off with potato chips and manga.
So it's canon.

>>17349750
>>17349754
Niconico would be a much better place for that, some of the parodies there are actually incredibly well-made (watching the original video with English subs here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq5GRMsHhQc first would be a good idea, since 90% of all references in the parodies are to the original video): http://www.nicovideo.jp/tag/Cookie%E2%98%86

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Is she still relevant?

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>>17350896
Just link some particularly notable ones.

The thing I don't understand is all the actress hubbub. Do the actresses voice the parodies? Are people just stalking them because of the original video? Are there other sequels to the original videos that parodies are being made of that have the actresses or what?

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>>17351484
And all these character portrayals are just 2D ways of portraying what's essentially the same kind of obsession as the idol threads, right? They aren't representing characters from various parody evolutions or anything?

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This shit is far too autistic and I don't think I need to acknowledge it's existence

[Anonymous No.]

for anyone who still doesn't know after all the bullshit that happened after the original cookie people made their own fanmade voice dramas and tried to have it the same quality as the original cookie , and the characters personalities aren't based of their touhou counterparts , its based of their voice actors and their names are shortened versions of their voice actors names, for example reisen from the 2013 chrismas voice drama was voiced by hisui , so she's called HSI not reisen
and reimu was voiced by sanana so she's called SNNN.

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>>17351927
Your post is the most confusing thing in this thread.

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>>17351165
Only videos of her I remember from this year are those shit eating series that keep getting deleted.

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>>17347397
I genuinely hate it and all it represents.

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>>17351165
>she

[Anonymous No.]

Is this really HSI? It sounds like her but I'm not sure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KE4dQZnePU

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>>17351927
Idol drama with touhou avatars. Got it.

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>>17351484
Sort the videos by views under that tag and work from there. If you can't into Nip (neither can I), It's the 2nd alternative in the drop-down menu.

So "Cookie " is not the original name of anything. It's the nickname people on Niconico gave the original "Marisa and Alice's cookie kiss" fan collaboration video. Eventually, people also started using the "Cookie " name and tag to refer to parodies of the original video mentioned above.

Due to the bad voice acting, strange pronunciations, campy story, and artwork of wildly differing styles and quality from all the collaborating artists, it was considered humor gold. Cookie parodies are almost exclusively music videos created with sound and voice samples from the original video, arranged together with sprites cut out from it (these kind of arrangement are called MADs on Niconico). They are kind of like Niconico's answer to those fan-made TF2 videos that have been all over Youtube the last decade, using sprites instead gmod. So the answer is naturally no, the voice actresses are not involved in these parodies, the parodies are often of mocking them after all.

I don't understand all the actress hubbub either, but that's how obsession works in most of these communities, I guess. Since girls are close to non-existent in the autistic Touhou fandom, the voice actresses soon became idols of worship for some, despite all the mockery. Eventually, instead of referring to the characters in the video by their actual names in the Touhou Project, these worshipers started referring to them as their voice actresses instead. As most Japanese still live in an age where internet privacy is a thing, they are only referred to by acronyms of their online names. UDK is the actor for Marisa in the original video, RU is the actor for Reimu, and so on.

Now, there are "kind of" sequels to the original Marisa and Alice's cookie kiss video. UDK and RU chose to go on and record a few Touhou voice dramas, which fans later chose to call season 2, or "Cookie ". Of course, it didn't take long before some fan made animations in MMD to go along with these, and now there was even more material to keep the memes going (as I said though, 90% of the parody material to this day still comes from the first video).

UDK and RU eventually disappeared, but other voice actresses, artists, and writers continued making Touhou fan collaborations in the same spirit as the original Marisa and Alice's cookie kiss video. Many of them have come and gone by now (after all, it has been 7 years since the first video) over the different "seasons". Therefore, the same Touhou characters are referred to by different names in the different "seasons", as the actors change.

So to conclude, "Cookie" is loosely referring to these kind of Touhou fan collaborations since 2010, the obsessive fandom that goes along with them (where characters are referred to as off-brand versions using their actresses' acronyms), and all the parodies/memes.

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>>17351496
The former, but as I mentioned above actresses have come and gone over the "seasons", so they represent different actresses from different source material evolutions.

Again, there aren't really parody evolutions. The parodies use samples and sprites lifted directly from the source material, arranged into MADs in all sorts of ways. Some are completely original, others are re-creations of famous American rap songs (yes really). Most samples and sprites still come from the first video, occasionally they throw in stuff from later "seasons".

Lately, there's been a lot of cross breeding between Cookie and the Japanese Undertale fandom.

>>17353612
Every instance of the word "Cookie" in this post is supposed to be followed by the UTF-8 star symbol (except for paragraph 5, the sequel is called Cookie with 2 star symbols"). 4chan is dum.

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>>17353612
>>17353667
So, how does this fit in?
http://img.4plebs.org/boards/f/image/1458/09/1458093692479.swf
http://img.4plebs.org/boards/f/image/1457/49/1457490867267.swf

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>>17353612
>As most Japanese still live in an age where internet privacy is a thing, they are only referred to by acronyms of their online names
Actually, cookiefags love finding and publishing real life info about the actresses. The acronyms are a reference to calling Kazuhito Tadano "TDN" when it was found that he played in gay porn. Other Inmu actors were nicknamed like this too.

>UDK and RU chose to go on and record a few Touhou voice dramas, which fans later chose to call season 2, or "Cookie ".
UDK and RU were only in the first Cookie. All the season 2 episodes have different actresses for Reimu and Marisa.

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>>17352655
Yeah thats HSI

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>>17352655
unless if she leads a big double/triple life where she can change how good her singing is at command, no

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>>17353781
Have some more
http://eye.swfchan.com/flash.asp?id=189616&n=Marisa+gets+some.swf

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>>17353781
>>17354728
I haven't seen these before, what a riot.

As you probably noticed, they are created using sprites and sound samples from the original Cookie works, just like the MADs on Niconico that get millions of views.

I suppose they "fit in" in the same way as all the other Cookie parodies do, except that these are not MADs. Someone felt like creating them, so they did, nothing more to it. Just like any other meme. /f/ probably keeps posting them because all the rape and scat has shock value.

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>>17353781
>>17354728
I haven't seen these before, what a riot.

As you probably noticed, they are created using sprites and sound samples from the original Cookie works, just like the MADs on Niconico that get millions of views.

I suppose they "fit in" in the same way as all the other Cookie parodies do, except that these are not MADs. Someone felt like creating them, so they did, nothing more to it. Just like any other meme. /f/ probably keeps posting them because all the rape and scat has shock value.

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>>17353781
https://youtu.be/KQ-DjBCdg1c
Here, have something that isn't about Cookies shitting on each other.

[Anonymous No.]

Sorry, but /jp/ is NG.
Btw is endchan/inmu/ still a thing?

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>>17355799
>As you probably noticed, they are created using sprites and sound samples from the original Cookie works
Are they from all of them collectively, because I don't remember the original involving that many characters

What's with the voice actress bootleg art though? Those are entirely made of memes surrounding the actresses right and have nothing whatsoever to do with the videos themselves nor the parodies? Like the OP, those "aren't Reimu" and nor are they "Reimu in the style of different cookie video scenes", just nearly unrelated things to make other memes about the actresses?

And those flashes nave nothing to do with the actresses in particular right? Nor is the shitting and rape a reference to anything?

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>>17355926
>not available in your country

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>>17352117
I keep loosing them. Do you have any saved somewhere?

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>>17356254
>Are they from all of them collectively, because I don't remember the original involving that many characters
Once again, the majority of the most popular sprites come from the first Cookie video. Some come from the "sequels", while others (such as the animated Marisa with legs) are modifications of the original sprites for the sole purpose of making parodies. Look, these are meme videos we're talking about, people include whatever the hell they feel like including, it's not like there's some kind of established rule set.

>What's with the voice actress bootleg art though? Those are entirely made of memes surrounding the actresses right and have nothing whatsoever to do with the videos themselves nor the parodies? Like the OP, those "aren't Reimu" and nor are they "Reimu in the style of different cookie video scenes", just nearly unrelated things to make other memes about the actresses?
You pretty much answered the question yourself.

>And those flashes nave nothing to do with the actresses in particular right? Nor is the shitting and rape a reference to anything?
Again, you answered your own question. Unless there's some kind of idol drama bullshit that I'm completely unaware of, but to be honest I don't engage in the Cookie fandom myself, I just enjoy the parodies.

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>>17356417
I just wanted confirmation I'm understanding this. It's kind of confusing that there's:

Cookie: The parodies of some yurishit video
and
Cookie: A bunch of touhou fanart of actresses of the original work, but not related to the parodies, and with memes that point them out relating to the actresses instead that you'd neither gather from their touhou character, nor the original video, nor any of the parodies of it.

It's like with those gay videos, when you're referencing something, you're referring to something that happened in the video. You can just post a scene from it. When you post art of the cookie characters, you're not even talking about the original video, you're talking about something you'd have to be following the actress on twitter from the last 5 years to get. And if you haven't it's just a picture of Reimu, but then someone's like "no that's not Reimu, that's Cookie character RMX" and so you can look up Cookie and all you see is what is supposed to be actual Reimu, and then you look up the parodies, and it's just parodies of Reimu from that video. It's like "who the fuck is this chick that look like Reimu but somehow isn't her then?"

Is there like some annotated versions of the videos that put the names of the people voicing over the characters? I feel like I could just watch all the parodies and I still wouldn't understand who the cookie characters are because they don't actually exist within the context of the videos.

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>>17357257
So again, you answered your questions well on your own, I can't really add anything more. Cookie began with the Marisa and Alice's cookie kiss yurishit video, and now it refers to anything and everything that video spawned, be it sequels or parodies.

If you seriously want to thoroughly understand this phenomena known as "Cookie", you'll simply have to lurk more on your own. I'm not aware of any annotated videos explaining all the idol drama, so you'll most likely have learn Japanese and watch it all from the beginning on Niconico.

I'm only familiar with one thing from the idol/actress-drama (it's mentioned in the Reddit wiki posted earlier in this thread). RU accidentally blurted out UDKs real name during a stream they did (her real name is Marina) which caused UDK to lose her shit and start screaming.

References to stuff like the incident above are sometimes thrown into the Cookie parodies. But it's not like there's a super clear-cut distinction made between different sorts of parodies. Some are just remixes of the background song in the first, original video. Others are MADs or random stories referencing nothing in particular, who simply use sprites and samples from the first video to mock it. There's also the videos that rely entirely on making fun of the actress drama. It's not rare that parodies throw in a little bit of everything mentioned above. If you dig deeper, there's even non-parody, animated fanfics.

I watch the MAD parodies since they can be enjoyed far what they are after seeing the first original, with little to no knowledge of the actress drama. I don't care for all the off-brand Reimus who aren't Reimu because they are actually the online personas of voice actresses I've never heard of, and that stuff.

Perhaps this >>17348832 anon already did the best job in this thread of summing it all up.

[Anonymous No.]

They were funny the first few times but then it kept going.

[Anonymous No.]

cookie came from niconico but most of the evil came from 2ch

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>>17356254
those flashes are all from a famous niconico channel, なの厨(nanochuu). They make it because it's funny and absurdist, and yes most of his works have nothing to do with actresses

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>>17347397
YJSNPI daisuki deshou

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm31624083 He's at it again

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>>17366503
I was looking for this channel, thanks

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>>17347548
It's 2hu's version of donut steels.

Except sonic fans at least recolored the characters. Cookiefags didn't even do that.

[Anonymous No.]

>/jp/

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>>17349088
Goddamn i wish those are available here in my place

[Anonymous No.]

どけと言われてどくやつがあるかー？

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>>17370906
(very shit drawing)

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>>17370486

[Anonymous No.]

I don't care about it. It's not Touhou and none of them are the people I care about. Honestly, she's people should just stop and do something for themselves using their own talents instead of using character designs from Touhou.

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yawn

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>>17347529
Secondary Garbage. They used the MMD models because they looked good not having any clue they were touhous.

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>>17376917

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>>17379242
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