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Who's your favorite boss on design alone, /jp/? I really like Wakisagihime

>> No.17300445

who's your favorite character to play, /jp/?

>> No.17300460
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>>17300445
The number one.

>> No.17300715

>>17300445
everyones favorite slut

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>>17300445
Marisa, because I enjoy macrododging more than micrododging.

>> No.17301111

>>17300445
>>17300780
Same here. Marisa is my favorite to play with. I like fast shot types.

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>>17300445
For play style i used to like Reimu better but now i feel like im shifting towards Marisa a bit, but my favorite aesthetically is Youmu for her cuteness that goes against her context of slashing things with her sword.

>> No.17301143

>>17300445
SakuyaA is really fun in both PCB and DDC.

>> No.17301216 [SPOILER] 
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Have you guys done the parallel endings in TD? just did this one because raymoo is easy, but I don't think I'll ever get them with Sanae or Youmu.

>> No.17301243

Is Double Black Death Butterfly really that bullshit of a card or is there actually a strategy to it on higher difficulties?

>> No.17301245

>>17301216
>that ending
I'm relatively new, but why is it that Reimu allows so many Yokai to live and be around, and even works with them several times when she seems to want to kill every Yokai in the world?

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>>17300445
SEIJA

Like for real, I absolutely adore the cheat tool mechanics. ISC 2 when?

>> No.17301264

>>17300445
Reimu and overall shot-type is probably needle Reimu in PCB. The focused needles just looked cool and I wish it would be brought back.

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>>17301245
Seiga came uninvited through a hole in the wall, I guess she didn't kick her ass because she was tired and busy drinking tea.

>>17301138
Nice you got a lot of clears since your last chart post and you did TD too.

>> No.17301291

>>17301245
She's a hypocrite.

>> No.17301295

>>17301276
didn't she work with a yokai in IN though? And in LoLK she's doing something because a yokai asked her to. And in Labyrinth of Touhou 2 she's asking every yokai they meet to join her, but since that's a secondary thing I can excuse it.

>> No.17301313

>>17301295
Yukari's her employer since she also manages the Great Hakurei Barrier too. She also pays Reimu anyway and Reimu's greedy.

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>>17300445
Bloody no one until best girl gets her goddamn playable appearance in a mainline game already. Homing Reimu.

>>17301216
I forget, do you HAVE to have beaten Extra in order to see the parallel endings? Since the game only tells you about them at the end of the Extra stage and all.

>> No.17301337

>>17301245
>when she seems to want to kill every Yokai in the world
She doesn't. You'll get it eventually.

>> No.17301339

>>17301336
>I forget, do you HAVE to have beaten Extra in order to see the parallel endings? Since the game only tells you about them at the end of the Extra stage and all.
no

>> No.17301342

>>17301337
>You'll get it eventually.
I hope so, so far it seems like the protagonists seem a little too blood thirsty to be good guys.

>> No.17301354

>>17301336
Nah you just have to beat the game while holding 3 or more bombs on a character you have already 1cc'd, so I just did it in Normal and didn't used any bombs against Miko.

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>>17301342
That's because anytime you play a game an "incident" happens. Meaning Reimu must move her lazy ass and go solve it. Scarlet mist, winter lasting way too long, broken moon, endless partying, flowers everywhere, so on and on and on.
Besides what they say to each other is just shittalk. Sakuya was supposed to be murdered by Reimu when you reach Remilia for example, next game she's running around shanking fairies trying to find spring.
It works like this, Youkai need human fear to survive, there's a few humans in Gensokyo, best way to gain fear is obviously to eat a few. But, there's Reimu, Keine, Marisa, village is protected, even Yukari does not aprove of killing too many humans. Kill 'em all, no fear for anyone, Gensokyo dies. So, in order to get some, youkai stage incidents with spellcard rules, made up by Reimu.
Example. Seija & Shinmyomaru create their little revolution, every human goes "oh no", every youkai goes "I'mma eat you", Reimu/others bust in and wipe the floor with the baddies. Spellcard rules meaning nobody gets hurt, humans remember "right, youkai are powerful, better stay out of their way", maybe go throw Reimu a few coins for the trouble, offending youkai spit out a few teeth and go have tea with Reimu, everyone happy until the next one.

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>>17301402
So the entire thing is just one big play/scam to keep the whole show running? Okay, I can kinda dig that. Here I thought some characters like Wakisagihime were just straight up executed since they get no post-fight dialogue.

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>>17301409
Not a scam, more like a "if you kill humans I'll exterminate you for good" deal. Reimu can do that. Gensokyo was created as a place for youkai to live in, see
>Kill 'em all, no fear for anyone, Gensokyo dies.
It's like youkai are wild animals, you gotta wrangle them. Not all of course.

>> No.17301452

>>17301276
Thanks! Mof too if you noticed, with reimu - meaning no glitch this time around - which i actually got on the same day as TD. Didn't think that completing games "horizontally" would be such a good training for the ones i still had to beat

>> No.17301507

>>17301452
Have you considered PCB's Extra yet?

>> No.17301521

>>17301354
It doesn't send the counter back to 2 if you die when having 3 bombs... Right?

>> No.17301538

>>17301521
I think not, because I reached her with like 5 lives and the 3 bombs and got out of the fight with 1 life and the bombs were still there.

>> No.17301585

>>17301538
Cool. I guess you could still use the trance as a bomb anyway though
>>17301507
I think I'll give it a shot one of these days. I kinda need to watch a video about it though, to know what's coming in the later parts of the boss - last time i did that was 2 years ago

>> No.17301622

>>17301585
>you could still use the trance as a bomb anyway though
Yes, although I wasted my trance during the stage so I couldn't use it on the fight. Regarding Ran the only hard spells imo are the last two before her final spellcard, you also get a lot of bomb drops or extra lives on the fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROuGiFVw6Gc

>> No.17301713

>>17301622
Just watched the video, thanks for that. Are all extra bosses' final spells supposed to deceive you by looking easy at first?

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This was my fastest 1CC ever. I've spent 4 hours and 6 minutes on this game, maybe I'll try with Youmu before moving on.

>>17300445
IN Border team followed by SA ReimuA.

>> No.17301993

>>17301975
I'm dissapointed on how easy Miko's boss fight is. When I was able to capture nearly half of her cards on the first try on Hard when I was just trying to unlock her stage to practice for my Hard 1CC, something's up.

>> No.17302027

>>17301993
On my first playthrough I was more surprised by how easy Futo's fight was. Coming from Rin in 11 and Shou in 12 the difference is like night and day.
I also did a Hard run for fun and to unlock more Spell Practice and captured her final spell card on my first try.

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>>17300445
The number two.

>> No.17302100

>>17301993
>>17302027
I think it's so easy because ZUN wanted to balance with the high risk getting life spirits requires as well as the fact that there are so few of them

>> No.17302108

>>17301216
>I don't think i'll ever get them with Sanae or Youmu.
Youmu is cool, you probably just have to get used to her.

Sanae is a whole different story though...

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>>17302108
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOrD7b8PR9Y

>> No.17302980

>>17302100
Pretty much. The difficulty doesn't come from relentless danmaku, but from the fact that you get so little resources throughout the game without a lot of planning, so you have to be extra careful with what you do.

>> No.17303032

>>17302980
>you get so little resources throughout the game without a lot of planning
There are one or two designated Trance spots on each stage. Spotting them doesn't take a lot of planning.
Even then, I can only speak for Normal. For higher difficulties it may be difficult to squeeze out every last resource, possibly involving close-range combat to gain more spirits for more Trance.

>> No.17303042

You get more Trance out of harder difficulties, so there's more actually.

>> No.17303082

>>17303042
That sounds like it makes for some fun scoring.
I'll go watch some videos of people that are far better than me.

>> No.17303235

>>17301975
If you fight that last spell with ReimuA you just have to stand still.

>>17302108
I haven't got a clear with Youmu yet, I've got Sanae but there's no way I'm doing it with 3 bombs left in the stock.

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>>17301975
I almost got it too. 4 hours in but Prince killed me with her last spellcard. Wish I knew that your last life gives you 2 bombs.

>> No.17303639

>>17303235
>If you fight that last spell with ReimuA you just have to stand still.
Miko has a safespot?

>>17303580
I'm sure you can do it!

>> No.17303716

>>17303639
Fuck I meant to reply to >>17301713
I don't think Miko has some, or atleast I don't know any, but it's a pretty easy boss, the thing that makes TD more challenging is that you have to risk your ass going to the top of the screen to get the purple spirits, if you felt it was an underwhelming clear you should try Youmu and Sanae.

>> No.17303765

>>17301409

Its not a scam, its the only way it can be. The Yokai can't kill Reimu because the barrier will collapse, so instead they fight with spellcards to make things even.

>> No.17304119

>>17301409
Youkai dont die in Gensokyo if they are cute. Also no one really kills anyone, its all just banter. No youkai actually eats human, its all provided by Yukari to carnivores like Remilia, which might as well be chicken.
Also Yukari made and rules Gensokyo.

>> No.17304140

>>17303716
Oh i was still referring to ran, about that final spell thing. But yeah i am gonna do either youmu or sanae when i can. Also i gave a few tries against ran and it seems doable but i think i need to find myself a free afternoon where i can just keep trying because right now im not lasting much against her, plus i keep getting screwed over on chen's second spell

>> No.17304389

Post cringeworthy fanmade games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOXWb2mlvZ4

>> No.17304480

>>17304389
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PgBuVD8uiE

>> No.17304492

>>17304480
Eh, it has better music, art, and patterns than what I posted.

>> No.17304499

>>17304389
is that background fucking minecraft

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>>17304389
>>17304480
lol

>> No.17304639

>>17304389
That actually looks fun.

>> No.17304649

>>17303082
>fun scoring
>TD
pick one

>> No.17304685

>>17304389
Nothing else compares.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7zh3R0JBRE

>> No.17304689

>>17304685
jesus fucking christ

>> No.17305050

>cringeworthy
I want /v/ to leave.

>> No.17305064
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These threads gave me the motivation to play Touhou again, only ever having 1cc'd one game in the past. Three days of Mountain of Faith has resulted in a normal clear, as well as the extra stage, which I just cleared now. Thanks for these threads, I'm having a ton of fun playing again.

>> No.17305087

>>17305064
You owe us money now, you know

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Am I good yet?

Fuck SA, I don't know what ZUN was thinking when he made that game, it's like 2nd-3rd in terms of bullet pattern difficulty and has the shittiest shot types and bombs ever and you have to cripple your damage output to use them, holy fuck.

>> No.17305181

>>17305156
Well atleast you got UFO and DDC done, Fairy Wars aswell which is a hard game, if you feel tired about SA for now you can try doing the different shot types in the rest of the games, and colour the chart with the corresponding colour for each game, it looks nice.

>> No.17305228

>>17305156
Nah you're just getting started. The real 2hu starts at lunatic.

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Even with MarisaB MoF Cheese she still needed to do the survivals and half of the last card legit but it was close

Yes cheese runs count because I still did it. Next I want to try DDC's EX Legit though. Who's the best non-MarisaB shot? SakuyaA?

>>17305156
You're getting there. SA takes a lot of patience but those bombs are there to be abused. You have a total of 40 or so bombs if you get most Power bits, put them to use.

Also Reimu/Yukari is the best shot

>> No.17305246

>>17305241
should have specified I did Suwako with MarisaB

>> No.17305249

>>17304649
>fun
>scoring
pick one

>> No.17305349

>>17305249
Scoring in HSiFS is fun.

>> No.17306087

>>17305241
It's time for lunatic.

>> No.17307232

>>17301975
Let me guess you've been playing the games in order? After overcoming SA and UFO I remember TD being really easy also.

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>>17305241
Would you mind posting the blank version of that chart?

>> No.17308246

>>17307232
That's right. I'm not playing enough that I think I can clear LoLK before HSiFS, as right now I'm messing around with TD Youmu, but I'll get there eventually.

>> No.17308601
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This Extra stage is fucking garbage and Marisa is not fun to fight.

>> No.17308603

>>17308601
So don't complete it?

>> No.17308629

>>17308601
Just win it fast so you get it out of the way
>>17303716
>>17304140
Just beat ran, after losing 2 lives in the stage lol. Fight was thrilling though

>> No.17308664
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i believe in all of you on your touhou journeys

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>>17308629
Congrats! I knew you could do it.

>> No.17308871
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Whining to /jp/ always seems to help.

>> No.17308901

is whining the secret to being talented

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>>17308871
Goddamn congrats anon!
That stage is pretty hard, it took me a lot of time to get a clear on it

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>>17308901
always works for me.

>>17308871
Good work anon! You did it!

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>>17300445
Youmu. Border Team is fun in IN and her TD shottype is my favorite in the series. Haven't used her much in the fighting games though.
>>17300403
Started playing PCB on Hard because there's no way I can handle the difficulty jump of the PC-98 games right now. Is there some kind of gigantic HP bloat on PCB Hard bosses or does Reimu-A have the lowest damage output in the series?

>> No.17309391

>>17308964
Yep, it is the weakest. Even weaker than spread shot types. At least the homing function is useful though

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>>17308246
Youmu does take some getting used to, but she was arguably even better for clearing stages than Reimu once I learned how to use her. In all regards a very fun shottype.
I'll save attempting the secret endings for when I get stuck on DDC/LoLK.

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>>17309391
I might switch to Reimu-B then, I was just trying to make A work since Reimu was the only character I haven't beaten PCB with and I used B when I cleared EoSD Hard the other day.
Also posting chart because I realized I haven't done it yet since said clear.

>> No.17309529

>>17308901
You have to be born talented.

>> No.17309544
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There's no practice patch for MoF and I can't do Mishaguji-sama for shit. So I can either play the entire damn extra stage over and over and over again just to get to that one damn spell or forget about MoF extra altogether. Great.

>> No.17309571

>>17309544
There is SpoilerAL

>> No.17309600

>>17308901
being a chink or jap is

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>>17309395
Your post inspired me to try her again, hooray! TD Normal chart is finally completed now. It's a fun shot type, but requires patience.

>> No.17309694

>>17309414
Looking good. Why not clear it anyway with reimu A though?

>> No.17309709

>>17309694
I got hung up on trying to clear a game with a bad shottype before and it almost made me take a long break with the series (because DDC Sakuya-B is that bad). I haven't fully decided whether I want Reimu-A or Reimu-B yet, I might mess around with both.

>> No.17309757

>>17309600
gooks are pretty talented too

>> No.17309917

is imperishable night actualy the easiest? my friend who introduced me to 2hu told me to play IN first. after i cleared it i played EoSD and PCB and found myself getting to the 4th stage and beyond way easier than in imperishable night, and in normal mode.
Was i played for a fool?

>> No.17309943

>>17309917
Kinda, Stage 4 IN gets hard because Marisa and Reimu are tough, while Reisen isn't much trouble the Stage 5 itself can be challenging for new players. I'd say PCB is the easiest game.

>> No.17309994

>>17309943
Meanwhile I don't like replaying PCB solely because of its Stage 4 that lasts an eternity and then has a Stage 4 boss that IMO is harder than Marisa/Reimu

but I replay IN a lot more so Marisa/Reimu I may just be more used to

>> No.17310080

>>17309917
IN being the easiest is just a meme. It's not the hardest by any stretch of the word, but it will never be the easiest game as long as PCB and LLS exist.

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>>17309994
What a pity, I find PCB's Stage 4 to be fun as hell, it's mostly just streaming, but Youmu is when you are going to have a bad time, her non spells are worse than her spellcards for me.

>> No.17310188

>>17305064
Have you tried TD?

>> No.17310192

>>17308601
Move on for now Anon.

>> No.17310203

>>17310142
Funny thing, PCB is along with LoLK the only game i havent beated yet and the main reason is friggin Youmu.

>> No.17310216

>>17310188
Yeah, I started it a couple hours ago. It's very relaxing playing it right after clearing an extra stage. I'll probably clear it tonight.

>> No.17310287

>>17310192

>>17308871

>> No.17310308

>>17309709
I almost want to just stop playing this game, it feels like both Reimu shottypes have horrible damage output. Stage 1 takes so fucking long to beat on Hard with Reimu that it's draining me faster than normal, and I can't get a run where I don't Game Over at or before Alice.
PCB Hard seems a lot more difficult than EoSD Hard.

>> No.17310332

>>17310203
If you got past Shou and Orinrin-land then you can beat anything my dude.

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>>17310142
Those are safespottable though

>> No.17310435

>>17310425
This isn't what a safespot is

>> No.17310438

>>17310435
Misdirected then

>> No.17310742

>>17301245
>she seems to want to kill every Yokai in the world?
She doesn't, religiously and philisophically she seeks absolute balance, which is completely in line with her flippant attitude, yet almost frightening aptitude in combat at at resolving incidents.
Any time she's threatening to kill Youkai, she's just trying to intimidate or tease them.
Except for Fortune Teller, his mere existence threatened the balance of the human population in Gensokyo.

>> No.17310765

>>17310742
>his mere existence threatened the balance of the human population in Gensokyo
Yes, because he wanted to rise above being fodder for the youkai and could've inspired others to similarly take a stand
#justiceforfortuneteller

>> No.17310778

>>17310765
The human village inhabitants are explicitly not Youkai food, all of the food Youkai need are spirited away from the Outside World.

>> No.17310869

>>17310742
>his
This series has canonical male characters? I'm still a newfag so I thought the only male was in that one RPG

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Just gotta shave off 5 more misses. Doubt I'll get it any time soon though.

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>>17310869
Yes, he regularly rails Marisa too.

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>>17310869
There's like 6 guys in the entire series.
The one in HRtP, I don't even know what he or his female counterpart is supposed to be
Genji, who is a turtle and did not appear for years
Rinosuke, who sits in his shop entire time
Youmu's teacher, who up and left for some reason, never appears anywhere.
Unzan, who is just a cloud/stand anyway
Fortune teller who is fucking dead.

>> No.17310913

>>17310869
There are males, they just aren't in the games (unless you count the PC-98 character with no name or personality, the PC-98 character who's a turtle, the giant catfish who might just be from Meiling's imagination, and the giant angry cloud of smoke who fights with Ichirin)

>> No.17310929

>>17310869
Most males are non-humanoid. The two humanoids who have actually appeared, rather than just been referenced to, are Rinnosuke who runs a curiosities shop primarily involving stuff from the Outside World (basically our world), and then the Fortune Teller who was a human who made himself into a Youkai, and then literally got killed by Reimu.

>> No.17310951

>>17310929
Is he the only character that Reimu actually killed?

>> No.17310959
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>>17310951
We didn't hear from Mima and a few others in a long time

>> No.17311041

>>17310888
You're pretty close. Keep up the good work.

>> No.17311087

>>17310908
Shingyoku's male priest is the first one, shingyoku itself is three parts though. Thanks touhoumon

>> No.17311111
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>that moment when can't play anymore
Quoting my plays right now. I just keep running into bullets. Can't dodge shit anymore. I guess I'd better give up on these games.

>> No.17311127

>>17311111
But that's a pretty cool chart you got there, even 4 Hard 1ccs on SA.

>> No.17311133

>>17311111
Why anon? Don't stop, try to have a run at the characters you haven't yet cleared on normal. Sometimes you just have to take a step back in order to move forward. That, or get some rest and try a new but not too demanding game. Checked

>> No.17311163

Goddamn does PoFV EX make me mad

not being allowed a single mistake is bullshit

>> No.17311178

UFO hard is making me mad AAAAAAAA fuck shou and fuck byakutits. I basically bomb every single spell and nonspell except the spell which comes before Vajra.

>> No.17311183

>>17311178
If you bomb every spell in stage 6, you're doing it wrong. Lots of Byakuren's spells are easily avoided. In fact, the only reason Byakuren is a top tier threat to any run is because of her last spellcard.

>> No.17311251

>>17311183
Byakuren's last spell is actually one of the easier ones if you misdirect the initial waves. The real killers are good omen and her 2nd (or 3rd?) non

>> No.17311262

>>17311111
I know that sufferin,g I consistently have a problem where I get crosseyes as soon as I have to focus on the bottom of the play area, which really hurts my runs.

>> No.17311294

>>17311262
Sounds like more of a problem with screen size and position than anything to do with patterns.

>> No.17311311

>>17311183
I meant shou's spells not Byakuren's. Although Byakuren also gets hard after two or three spells.

>> No.17311315

>>17304389
Honestly? Not that bad. The dialogue and art(non-sprite)might be pretty fucking awful but the gameplay, the most important part, looks acceptable enough. It could definitely be far worse.

>> No.17311516

>>17311127
Well, SA is my favourite game and I can make it up to stage 5 on Lunatic, while most other games give me a hard time sometimes even on Normal mode so it doesn't count, I'd say.
Would love to get my first Lunatic 1CC but it's beyond me. At least, now that I've spent quite a bit of continues to defeat Lunatic Utsuho, I can now practice all the stages in Lunatic mode.

>> No.17311799

>>17311294
I think it is because of screen position, as I get more room to work with the higher up the window is, I'm just not sure what the best way of solving it is.

Also I'm having so much "fun" trying the IN extra and by fun I mean FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK.

Otoh, I'm making progress- I've managed to make it to mokous 3rd spell now, on my 3rd~ run, so slow and steady progress is happening even if I'm still p shit with it.

>> No.17311908

>>17311799
I can't wait until you make it Fujiyama Volcano: you're gonna explode.
IN extra is purely gimmicky. Just try to understand the spellcards.

>> No.17311982

>>17311908
All I really need for now is to find the way past keine which doesnt involve just smacking her with 3x last words.

And I've got the idea of the first 3 down for now- dodge knives, try and go through the spin at the same time you redirect the knives -> keep the phoenixes out of the way -> find a good vertical position and sidestep like you've never sidestepped before.

Really it's probably not the best idea to go for an EX stage with like 2 normal 1ccs under my belt but I like IN and MoF gets frustrating at times as it feels like the bullets are harder to see in it.

>> No.17311991

>>17311799
>I'm just not sure what the best way of solving it is
...Prop up the monitor?

>> No.17312027

>>17311991
Huh.

Maybe the problem is just that I'm a moron

>> No.17312149

>>17300403
You're all a bunch of try hard scrubs and none of the advice in this thread is any helpful.
Suck my cock, nerds.

>> No.17312151

>>17311982
MoF is the easiest game in the series. Just bomb spam whenever you are in a pinch and stand just below fairies just after bombing to get your bomb back. I got a hard 1cc in MoF before completing normal 1cc in other games.

>> No.17312278

Is anyone else working on their first lunatic 1cc? I remember the last time I asked this an anon was working on pcb. I wonder if he ever got it. I've been working on EoSD on and off since mid December. I burned out at least twice trying to get it. The last break was because I got tinnitus. I didn't think I'd play again but that was 3months ago and things have gotten a lot better.

I've started playing again a few weeks ago and I feel like I can maybe do it. I mean I can do it on paper. I have plenty of resources. Before my last break I made it to scarlet gensokyo at least once and now after the break I feel I'm playing better than I ever was. So I should be able to do it. The question is when.

Also I've started playing the picture games with the goal of improving my skill to make my 1cc easier. I think I read somewhere that they're good games for getting better. Which I can see why. They're extremely hard.

I remember playing StB for the first time a long time ago and my first impression was this is weird and it sucks and I never played it again. Now that I'm better at touhou in general I'm having a blast playing them. I still suck but not as much as I used to. So far I got 22scenes in StB and 18 in DS cleared.

>>17310888
I'm working on 1cc'ing this too. I've gone through multiple periods of feeling it was possible and no it wasn't. I'm currently feeling it's possible again. Let's both try our best.

>> No.17312366
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So how big is your hitbox in the older games? It feels like I'm getting hit where I shouldn't. Whatever it is, does Reimu still get a reduced size?

>> No.17312417

>>17311982
The Phoenix card is ridiculously easy. At the beginning, go on the extreme left or right and not completely at the bottom of the screen. Wait for the phoenix to be shot, sidestep. Dodge the following by sidestepping again, then side step once to enter the safe zone between the 2 phoenixes. Do it again the other way around. Don't forget to misdirect the first phoenix each time to give you enough space to dodge.

>> No.17312425

>>17312149
sorry we're not talented enough to get wrs everyday like you

>> No.17312524

>>17312366
>does Reimu still get a reduced size?
From what I've heard, not in EoSD.

>> No.17312578

>>17312524
Your hitbox is as small in EoSD (Maybe not the usual Reimu small, but it's enough) as in later games, even if it's invisible. I'm talking about 1-5.

>> No.17312768

>>17312149
suck my cock, dude

>> No.17312788

>>17312578
It's the same size for all shot types but different between the games. What game are you having trouble in? What is hitting you "where you shouldn't"?

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>>17310951
Well, Orange begged for her life while Reimu ignored her pleas.

>> No.17312827

>>17312578
SoEW in particular has a larger-than-normal hitbox compared to later games. Coupled with the lack of focused movement it makes the game a bitch to play on harder difficulties and on the Extra stage.

>> No.17312891
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>>17312788
Alright, it's not that I'm perfectly dodging and something hits me anyway, it just feels like my hitbox is bigger. Like I see something that would just graze me usually (been playing EoSD, PCB and IN earlier) but it kills me. I just wanted to have a general idea how big is my error margin, without resorting to wasting a few hours making sure it's X pixels wide by extensive testing.
And I mean all the PC98 games. Well maybe except HRtP, obviously.

>> No.17312914

>>17310869
Basically, yes but they do not show up often in the games. You'll see them in the manga but I can count the number of males encountered in the games on one hand.

There's some interview with ZUN where he explains why. If I recall, he said something along the lines of "If danmaku is supposed to be pretty and elegant as an alternative to displays of force, then wouldn't it be better to use girls over boys?"

>> No.17312936

>>17312891
>it just feels like my hitbox is bigger
It is bigger. Like the other anon said, the hitbox in SoEW is particularly large. 4 and 5 have the same hitbox size IIRC.

>> No.17313101

>>17301216
DEL

>> No.17313135

>>17313101
Hey atleast I used spoiler to not show the ending.

>> No.17313461

>>17312821
Marisa's route happens after Reimu's route, and she fights Orange as well.
Orange is alive.

>> No.17313503

Easy
Perfect cherry blossom
Imperishable night
Mountain of faith

Medium
Embodiment of scarlet evil
Ten Desires
Double dealing character

Difficult
Subterranean animism
Undefined fantastic object
Legacy of lunatic kingdom

>> No.17313547
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Does looking up gameplay vidoes of 1ccs to try and copy their technique make me a bitch?

>> No.17313555

>>17313547
of course not, it is completely legit and actually a good idea

>> No.17313593

>>17313547
No. That's how you learn new techniques and how you ultimately become a better player.

>> No.17313604

>>17313555
>>17313593
I used to do that for dark souls, and people seemed to get upset at that. Mimicking what I've seen in the touhou vids is only making me worse, though, I keep dying when trying to use PoC or thread the needle between shots so I can keep my focused shot on the boss.

Trips confirm that it was a good idea, though.

>> No.17313639

>>17313547
I just discovered recently how to deal efficiently with Orin's first and second spellcards by watching a Perfect on Youtube. There's no harm in this.

>> No.17313649

>>17313604
Maybe don't copy them verbatim without understanding what's going on?

>> No.17313865

>>17312278
Oh god that sounds horrible, glad to hear that things have gotten better anon.
The photo games will definitively help you with your goal, you could also try 1cc some of the easier games in Lunatic too.

>> No.17313934

>>17313461
But I thought Marisa got to Stage 4 before Reimu, which is why she was there waiting for her.

>> No.17314286

>>17313604
>I used to do that for dark souls, and people seemed to get upset at that
Because part of the fun of figuring approaches out in DS is your own creativity, as the game allows you to try whatever you want. This would be more comparable to trying to learn speedrun strats with a concrete goal.

>> No.17314604

Man, I'm so hyped.

This is going to be the most important game since UFO.

>> No.17314618

>>17314604
But UFO is not very good.

>> No.17314642

>>17314618
It's MoF, but with better mechanics and opportunities. Not as greedy as Double Dicking Char though.

>> No.17314770

>>17310869
What RPG?

>> No.17314793

>>17314770
Labyrinth of Touhou 2, though he might have been in 1.

>> No.17314813

>>17314642
I always thought UFO was greedier than DDC. Sure, DDC you can get greedy, but UFOs give more resources in my opinion. They're also easier to acquire since you don't have to go to the top of the screen to get them when it's fucking filled to the brim with bullets.

>> No.17314837

>>17314813
UFO is a hell of random number generators.

I always play survival over scoring. DDC is better for life pieces. UFO is better for bombs and scoring.

>> No.17314845

>>17314604
Am I the only one who really liked LoLK? I enjoyed it more than TD and DDC.

>> No.17314856

>>17314845
No. LoLK is torture.

Same reason I hate SA and certain parts of DDC.

>> No.17314866

>>17314845
I liked the music at least, especially Stage 6's themes and Hecatia's. Getting a 1CC on it sure felt ecstatic compared to the past titles though due to how bullshit it is.

>> No.17314873

>>17314856
Even if SA is hard and I haven't beated it yet it's still an amazing game, it has great music and one hell of a final boss fight.

>> No.17314939

FUCKING BENBEN

>> No.17314946

>>17314939
oh I wish, anon, I wish.

>> No.17314963

Lost EoSD ExNN to QED 1 second before the end today. Twice. Somebody give me a bullet to smash my face into since that's all I seem to fucking do.

>> No.17314965

>>17314813
>They're also easier to acquire since you don't have to go to the top of the screen to get them when it's fucking filled to the brim with bullets
Except DDC's stage patterns are designed to allow you to POC with good routing, whereas UFO's are instead designed around having to manage grabbing UFO tokens and canceling with good routing, not caring much about needing to POC.

>> No.17314971
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>about to 1cc MoF on easy
>Kanako is almost defeated
>I'm on my last live
>*pichun*

FUCK YOU. Especially in 10/11/12 where they make you do the entire stage when you use a continue.

I hope bitching works for me like that anon in GFW

>> No.17314981

>>17314971
easy is actually harder than normal though

and you can't marisab through kanako

nice try though

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>>17314981
Yeah, I just read something like that on the wiki about Kanako's last spell having less space to dodge on easy, but stage 4 is where I get fucked on normal, so...welp.

I'll keep trying until I fuck the shit out off that hag.

>> No.17315117
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>>17314963
You got close, just repeat your steps and avoid that one bullet.

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Died near the end of Hell's Artificial Sun. I'm so fucking close, but I don't think I'll be able to replicate that run tonight.

>> No.17315479

>new ido script
>it's a fucking shoot the bullet game

>> No.17315506

>>17315479
I was just as disappointed anon.
Just like I'll be disappointed to find out that the new official spin off is gonna be the 3rd of those fuckers.

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>>17315457
Keep training anon, even if you die in early stages keep on going so you keep training the parts that cripple you before okuu.

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>>17315631
My first run after my previous post. So fucking happy I cleared. I had some really sloppy deaths stages 3-5, but somehow made it through okuu with only three lives, plus an extra I got during the fight.
I didn't see your post until after I cleared, but thanks for the words of encouragement.

>> No.17315706

>>17314856
Just admit you're bad.

>> No.17315764

No seriously, I'm gonna post again because no-one replied. Is there an efficient way against Kanako's last spell? I've already 1CC'ed the game with almost all shot types except Marisa A and now that I'm trying this game again, I'm really noticing how long and tiring this spell is.

>> No.17315787

>>17315764
Look at a wider radius of your character's surroundings, just keep seeing anything coming. And dodge every group of bullets as if it were a single big danmaku, meaning don't try to sneak in between the bullets.

>> No.17315802

>>17314845
I really like the grazing in LoLK, in both gamemodes. It's a lot of fun. Bomb grazing over and over again with Sanae might be imbalanced, but I get incredible amounts of enjoyment out of it.

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>>17315787
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=43574

Oh well, might look a bit too close for comfort but I got hit "only" twice during the last spell and didn't deathbomb so it's not as close as one might think.

>> No.17315933

>>17315925
Also, I just noticed my replay says 0.050% slowdown. This is acceptable right?
A shame I didn't make it to the 200k. Oh well, blame Sanae.

>> No.17315937

>>17315933
So long as it isn't a relaly notable amount of slowdown like 15% you're fine

>> No.17315991

>>17315933
It's ok till 4.9%

>> No.17317016

>>17315688
Holy shit that was close, grats anon!

>> No.17318169
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I did it!
>>17315117
Thanks for believing in me anon.

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>>17318169

>> No.17319616

>>17318169
What's the trick to get easily past Catadioptric?

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>>17319518
It does.
>>17319616
Stay in the bottom right corner and be patient.

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damn, i love pc98

>> No.17320889

https://twitter.com/yuke_o/status/884354275777822720

>> No.17321017

How do I collect 76 power before Rumia on stage 1?

>> No.17321045

>>17321017
Use marisa

>> No.17321062

>>17320889
Annoying as fuck voice acting

>> No.17321067

>>17321045
ReimuB is of interest to me. I know she can do it.

>> No.17321878
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17321878

With how much everyone badmouths it, it's easy to forget how good the music in TD is.

>> No.17323288

>>17321878
Nice victory.
I like the stage 6 theme and Desire Dream a lot.

>> No.17323727

I've been working on SA Extra the last few days, and it finally clicked in my brain/muscles how to handle Koishi's two criss-crossing heart spellcards, so I've made a lot of progress. Aside from wierd accidents in the stage portion my attempts are pretty consistent.
But now I've just reached her survival spellcard, which was a huge brick wall. Does anyone have any tips or tricks for this one, it's particularly long, and the multiple phases make it rather complex to get used to.

>> No.17323731

>>17321878
I love TD, just a fun and satisfying game to play. And Miko is great. The music is just the cherry on top.

>> No.17323890

>>17323727
For the first two parts, get comfortable with maneuvering through the small bullets and memorize the movement of the roses since they always move in approximately the same way. For the last part, my preferred method is to stay around the center and move with the squares up and left when the roses are to the right of me, and right and down through the walls twice (two sets of two walls) when the roses are to the left.
Not the easiest card to explain with text. Just refer to any of the dozen NMNB runs on youtube.

>> No.17323941

>>17321878
Stage 4 theme is the best on that game.

>> No.17324266

I haven't ever played anything beyond StB and I'm a little worried about Linux compatibility. Are all the newer games compatible with Wine? I don't play the fighting games.

>> No.17324655
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Are there any Troll English Patch for EoSD?

>> No.17324686

>>17314845
Playing LoLK is like pulling out my fingernails, fuck that. I like SA, I like UFO, and I like GFW but I haven't touched LoLK since my first pointdevice clear and I don't plan on trying Legacy Normal until I get some Lunatic 1ccs in other games.

>> No.17324719

>>17324686
Legacy is easier than pointdevice, mainly because of all the resources the game showers you with.
It took me about 600 deaths in PD to first clear it in normal and I reached Junko in my first try with Reisen in Legacy.

>> No.17324774

>>17318169
Congratulations on weathering the soul-crushing and coming out better than ever!

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Jesus christ this entire fight gave me anxiety. Literally from the time I started practicing a little over 24 hours ago to now, my stomach has been in a knot.
Regardless, the fight itself was really fun and came down to the wire. I deathbombed twice on my last life during Subterranean Rose and still managed to clear.

>> No.17324988

>>17324266
I've tried most of the mainline games in Wine and they've all worked fine. Wine versions from 2.5 onward give me a lot of slowdown though so you might want to try an older one.

>> No.17325169

>>17324970
Congratulations anon. How many times did Genetics of the Subconscious fuck you up?

>> No.17325212

>>17325169
According to my player data I only reached it five times, but it feels more like 50. That, Youkai Polygraph, and Philosophy of a Hated Person definitely fucked me up the most.

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>>17324970
Congrats anon, I just managed the same. Feels great.
Thanks for the advice >>17323890 I still never captured it any of the four times I reached it, but at least I was fine until I reached the final phase, where I just simply got overwhelmed. Genetics of the Subconcious was way worse, but at least it was the only (seemingly) insurmountable obstacle in the entire stage, so I was fine with dumping bombs and a life on it.

>> No.17326757

Whoever says you can't death-trance in TD is wrong

>> No.17327346

>>17324970
>>17326518
Nice job guys. Maybe I'll start working on this one again.

>> No.17327373

>>17327346
I'd recommend it, people say she's the easiest Extra boss and I'm inclinded to agree. Once you get good at the stage portion it can be extremely consistent, and Koishi's patterns are more based on memo/understanding, rather than pure dodging skills.

My question is, which Extra should I go after now? I've already got Yukari, Suwako, Mamizou, and now Koishi down. I was thinking of doing Nue but if anyone has a suggestion I'm listening.

>> No.17327568

>>17327373
I got the feeling like I wasn't sure if she was suppose to be hard or easy when I was trying her. I really suck at the flower petal spellcards though.

Nue sounds like a good one. That's the last one I beat myself.

>> No.17327577

>>17327568
The heart shaped bullet spellcards* I'm not sure why I said flower petal.

>> No.17327578

>>17324988
Thanks. I tried Ten Desires and it seemed to work fine, although the trance mechanism is so fucking hard to do, I always end up accidentally bombing instead.

>> No.17327876

>>17327568
>>17327577
All I can say about those, is to just focus on dodging horizontally, and if you're making any vertical movements, make sure you don't let it push you backwards/forwards. For Release of the Id, her first one, you want to be high on the screen, while Super-Ego you want to be lower on the screen. The tricky part of Super-Ego is readjusting your brain to read the bullets coming from below your character rather than from above your character.

>> No.17327889

>>17327578
What I do to manage Trance, is shift my pointer finger from the bomb key to the Trance key (standard keyboard layout; move it from X to C) whenever my Trance gauge is full. So any reactions I have to bomb are instead spent on Trancing.
Because almost any instance where you would want to bomb, Trancing is just better, and freely refills itself as you continue playing. The only exception is the Extra Stage where you might want to save a Trance to get through a tough spellcard, since bombs don't damage Extra bosses.

>> No.17328699

>>17326757
No one says that
>>17327373
>she's the easiest Extra boss
really now.

>> No.17328718

>>17328699
>really now.
That's the general notion I've heard, who would you say is the easiest?

>> No.17328750

>>17328718
Not him but I was under the impression she was the hardest. I think she's hard anyway. Even though I said a few posts up that I felt that I wasn't sure if she was hard or easy. What I meant was I felt like she couldn't make up her mind on whether she wanted to be hard or easy. Her spellcards seem like a mix to me.

>> No.17328794

>>17328750
I'm definitely not saying she's a pushover, but can you think of easier Extra bosses overall? Maybe Suwako due to MoF's bomb system.

>> No.17328803

Also I've read that Nue is one of the easiest a lot but she took me the most attempts of any of them so far. I've 4 more to clear yet though. Hmm my easiest might have been Mokou. Spell practice really helped me on that one.

>>17328794
Suwako is also said to be the easiest. I think I've seen Ran, Suwako, Mokou and Nue mentioned a lot. I don't know. They're all hard. None of them are easy.

>> No.17328824

>>17328794
Ran, Suwako, Nue and maybe Flandre are all among the easy bosses, Mokou as well maybe.
I didn't say that they are easier than Koishi because that should go without saying and when thinking about Koishi you don't ask who is easier, but harder and there is like only 1 answer.

>> No.17328852

>>17328824
And who's that? Hecatia?

>> No.17328976

>>17328852
Yes.
Hecatia's patterns might be simple, but executing them isn't, and Junko. Sure, picking Reisen makes it easier, but not easy.

>> No.17328985

Ran is the easiest, you silly willies.

>> No.17329120

EX BOSS DIFFICULTY TIER LIST (Windows Only, Hardest to easiest)

Hecatia
Nue's Stage
Koishi
Mamizou
Raiko
Nue
Yukari
Flan
Mokou
Suwako
Ran

>> No.17329177

>>17329120
Hecatia
Getting lives for Hecatia's stage
Koishi
Mamizou
Flan
Raiko
Yukari
Mokou
Suwako
Ran
Nue

>> No.17329373

>>17328985
This, I'm really bad at these games but yet I could beat Ran. I hope to clear Suwako now.

>> No.17329388

>>17328985
Ran isn't even a real person, nobody counts her.

>> No.17329728
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17329728

>DDC
>Lost a continue on stage 3
>died three different times on stage 1
>kept dying to normal enemies and non-spells in stage 4
>Switch to playing TD
>Die at the start of the level.

Anyone else have days where they have less skill than DSP?

>> No.17329783

>>17329728
I remember dying three different times to Yuyuko's last spellcard on a Hard 1CC in TD since I reset each time it happened. I stopped playing the game for nearly a few days after that since that crushed my soul..

>> No.17329796

>>17329728
>Switch to playing TD
>Die at the start of the level.
Time for a break, anon. You're just going to get even worse if you keep forcing yourself to play after this.

>> No.17329816

>>17329796
That's probably a good idea. I've been trying to just rush to beating DDC since I finally managed to get to the final boss a bit ago, and recently beat her in practice mode, but goddamn, every time I play, I get worse somehow.

>> No.17329825

>>17300445
Sakuya

>> No.17329849

>>17329728
If you die at stage 1, 2 or 3 just press escape and quickly tap the R key, do that until you reach stage 4 without missing or bombing.

>> No.17329887

>>17329849
I'm normally able to get to stage 4 losing one life or going unscathed. I don't know why I suck now.

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>>17314971
>>17329728
>continue

>> No.17330516

I recently had a hard drive failure and lost all the games. Is moriyashrine still a good place to DL them from?

>> No.17330579 [DELETED] 
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17330579

So which tier will Touhou 16 fall under?

>> No.17330597 [DELETED] 

>>17330579
>UFO
>Piss Easy
Is this bait?

>> No.17330629 [DELETED] 

>>17330597
>Showered with extremely easy to get resources
>Boss patterns are a joke
>Stages have minimal amounts of bullets
>UFO's are constantly clearing the screen for you, assuming you even need to collect UFO's
>Bombs are ridiculously powerful in the game, again, assuming you even need to use them

If you're having trouble with UFO, you might as well just quit shmups honestly.

>> No.17330640

>>17330597
Yeah
Pro-tip: If it has LoLK on top of anything it's bait made by a secondary

>> No.17330670

>>17330597
It's pretty easy if you know when you're in the situation where you have to use a bomb but i wouldn't consider it exactly piss easy.

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>>17330640
>t. literal who shitter who struggles with juvenile tier difficulty games

I'm easily better than anybody in this thread.
I know you're upset because you're trash at shmups but try to hold back your tears, it's embarrassing.

I've perfect pacified 4 of the 6 bosses in UFO. The game is a joke.

Since I'm oh so nice, here's a condenses version I recorded since the file size is too big on the one in which I timed out the nons too. They're laughably easy anyway.

https://track5.mixtape.moe/ubanfz.mp4

>> No.17330690

>>17330682
I want Reimu to use that finger to massage my prostate.

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>>17330682
Lmao MaZe, it took you years to pacify the easiest boss battles?
You're a failure and you even brag about it

>> No.17330696

>>17330682
Go away dude.

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>>17330693
lel look at the replay date my ass hurt friend. That was literally the same year I even started playing Touhou.
I was pacifying bosses from back then that you can't even manage to do now lmao

Can you even pacify Nazrin, princess?

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>>17330701
>the same year I even started playing Touhou.
This one?

>> No.17330718

>>17330701
>lel
Redditor has pulled out the heavy weapons

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>>17330706
>Implying I play now other than LNB'ing the newest game to come out.
Bros, how haven't any of you surpassed me yet, I barely even play lmao.
Come on now.

>>17330718
Umm, sweetie no. I've been here for over 12 years. Isn't that basically how old you are right now? Do you want to be a super player like me when you grow up?

>> No.17330734

>>17330722
>I've been here for 12 years
>Yet I still don't know the protagonist's canon eyes color

>> No.17330736

>>17330722
This is reaching navy seals pasta levels of shitposting, and the cocky 13 year old girl behavior makes it no better.

>> No.17330742

>>17330736
Welp, that was one fast message wipe

>> No.17330752

>>17330516
Just go straight to MEGA, i know i'll be put on blast for it but honestly it isn't that bad of a site.

>> No.17331177

>>17330321
The first guy you replied to never mentioned continues.
And what's the problem with using continues when you're trying to learn and practice for a 1cc?

>> No.17331290

>>17331177
Tbh ive never done a 2+cc clear but i don't understand the stigma either. I guess they just wanna fish for the players they like to call "secondaries" to shame them when the likely way they themselves got into the game was bad apple or some shit

>> No.17331534

What's the worst shot of all? Is it Reimu C in MoF?
>>17331290
>Tbh
>bad apple or some shit
You are the secondary.

>> No.17331551

>>17331534
Marisa B in UFO.
>random pieces of information
>WELL YOU ARE THE SECONDARY!
lol

>> No.17331555

>>17331534
Define "worst"

>> No.17331557

>>17331534
UFO's MarisaB, IN's solo Alice or HSiFS's Cirno.

>> No.17331567

>>17331551
You are a secondary if you have ever referred to touhou as an anime. End of the story.

>> No.17331614

>>17331567
So the guy you replied to isn't a secondary?

>> No.17331628

>>17331614
He and anyone can say whatever they want, what matters is understanding you are if you ever did that.

>> No.17331809

>>17300403
So when will ZUN make a playable male 2hu?

>> No.17331902

>>17331809
The very most you might ever get is a trap 2hu, and still unlikely

>> No.17331908

>>17331809
Never.
You are not getting a dude in your yuri universe.

>> No.17332137

>>17331177
Second guy here
>practice for a 1cc
>implying I've beaten DDC normally

I'm just trying to see the end of the game first, and worry about 1ccing it later.

>> No.17332294

>>17332137
You don't see the real (good/normal) ending though

>> No.17332323

>>17332294
I'm aware, but I haven't even beaten a touhou game yet. Seems like that should be my starting point for it. Makes sure I have at least some experience with stage 6 when the 1cc time does come around.

>> No.17332331
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Well, I finally beat Alice in PCB Hard without continuing and got to see Stages 4 and 5, and goddamn PCB is a lot crazier than EoSD on Hard, it's not how I was expecting these attempts to go given how they play on Normal.
Youmu is hard enough on Normal, and she might still be doable on Hard with a good character, but with Reimu's damage output it's almost unbearable. I guess it'll help me git gud quicker at least.

>> No.17332446

>>17311163
Do well on the early stages and youre allowed to make a shit ton of mistakes. It's easier than a lunatic 1cc as well thanks to the timer being way shorter than normal, and eikis timer going down to like 20secs. The main thing about pofv ex is to score the first few levels for lives (keeping your combo up for like 20-30 secs isnt too hard, and you can spam level 2's pretty easy on them) then just play normally. Good luck anon, I know you can do it!

>> No.17332447

>>17332137
Yeah, and I'm defending your ability to play like that.

>> No.17332510

>>17311163
How the fuck people managed to have a trouble with PoFV extra? I tried it after I got regular 1cc and I cleared it on like second, third try.

>> No.17332699

>>17332331
Stage 4 and Youmu are absolute bullshit on Hard.

They aren't HARD, per se. Just really dickish.

>> No.17332749

>>17332699
Stage 4 felt the same as Normal for me, the Prismriver Sisters however do get tough, I think Stage 3 is the easiest of them all on Hard and Youmu with Stage 5 is the real deal, when you manage to beat her with enough lives you pretty much have the 1cc on your pocket.

>> No.17332955

I still don't get what the ending of Hidden Star in Four Seasons is supposed to be. Just what really caused the Fairy craze and the seasons?

>> No.17332995

>>17332955
And we're supposed to know? The game won't be out for another month.

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I was so certain I bombed in time, too.
At least I now have it unlocked for spell practice.

>> No.17333389

>>17333357
>I now have it unlocked for spell practice
You never ran the level in practice mode?

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>>17333389
No, I did one almost complete run initally, using up all my continues and dying to You Grow Bigger.
I then practiced stage 4 because I found that one had the worst difficulty spike. At the same time I practiced all the spell cards I did unlock until I cleared them at least once or twice.
It wasn't meant to be a serious run, if I had known or even imagined I was going to get that close I would have practiced the stage beforehand.

>> No.17334205

>>17331567
>touhou isn't an anime
lmfao get a load of this tertiary newfag

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wtf please tell me I'm just retarded and this fight isn't that hard, please
holy shit all the times I have made it to her with any character that isn't Aya or Medicine, I have to resource tank because it is so bullshit

>> No.17334468

>>17332510
My guess is that they are playing with Aya because it's the only character they can clear with. Aya does struggle more in Ex that the other characters.

>> No.17334480

>>17334363
PoFV is just a shit game. You have no choice but to keep at it until the RNG starts pitying you and just lets you win.

>> No.17334668
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Doing well for like half the stage and then almost completely screw up, classic shit right here.
>>17248271
Sorry for the 3 week delay.

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>>17334363
If you can't survive even 2 minutes against Shiki than yeah. You're doing something wrong.

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>>17334205

>> No.17335699
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17335699

I literally started practicing this extra stage about 7 or 8 hours ago. I have no fucking clue how I cleared today, but I am content. This was also the first run I made it to Hourai Doll. Really glad I didn't choke at the end.

>> No.17336433

Debating if touhoumon discussion deserves it own thread or if it can go here. Thoughts?

>> No.17336462

>>17335699
Congrats dude. Hourai Doll is brutal.

>> No.17336644

>>17336433
Isn't there a /vp/ thread? There used to be.

>> No.17336739

>>17336644
Nope, i looked up an archive of the board and all i found on it were just mentions of the game. I doubt it can belong to /vp/ anymore anyway.

>> No.17336945

So, complete newfag to Touhou here. How do I get into Touhou? What else should I do besides playing the games? Are there any games I should skip other than the PC-98 ones?

>> No.17336949

>>17336945
go to reddit

>> No.17337177

>>17336644
The /vp/ thread died when people realized that the people working on the expansion's translation would NEVER finish

>> No.17337194

>>17334668
The absolute madman, how's your whole IN chart doing?

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Damn I can't believe I got ReimuC on my second try, this shot reminded me of Sanae in TD, the boss fights lasted like 30 seconds longer than what they normally do.

>> No.17337954

>>17336945
Hold Shift for focused movement.

>> No.17337991

>>17336945
You shouldn't skip all of the PC-98 games - 4 & 5 are definitely worth playing.

>> No.17338330

>>17336945

Practice. Its the only the way. Some basic knowledge of things like streaming will help, but its mostly practice. Play a practice stage, when you die, restart, keep going.

>> No.17338592

>>17338330
Not talking about the game, more about the fanbase. I've seen people that are living encyclopedias of all things Touhou. How do I even get on their level?

>> No.17338650

>>17338592
By playing different games a lot.

>> No.17338774

how can i get mountain of faith to play at full screen? it opens in windowed mode and there's no option to change it to full screen.

>> No.17338787

>>17331809
Unzan in the fighting games.

>> No.17338867

tfw haven't improved in 1000 hours

>> No.17338872

>>17338867
tfw haven't finished another 1cc run in 4 months and that time was probably a fluke

>> No.17338935

>>17334363
Eiki is really hard, but you should be living longer than that with that many losses. She gets easier as you lose to her (caps at like 3rd loss I believe?) and surviving two minutes is not too terrible. Her difficulty comes from all her things starting to stack together (same as all other bosses, but a little more extreme for Eiki) so the first bit should not be bad at all. As with all the 2hu games, practice more and it will start to come easier.
>>17334480
I guess people that can reliably 1cc it are just lucky all the time then, silly me.

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https://mega.nz/#!MQJ2TIYZ!skjEWfjy0EBkKoDmTomuBWZjbYXgLiiU3AVQf0z_cDQ
Goddamn I hate Reimu's DPS, I will never get used to it and attacks last so long because of it. This is a replay of my best attempt at PCB Stage 4 Hard so far. It's the only time I have ever captured Lyrica's first nonspell and the Prismriver's final spellcard but I still got fucking BODIED with Lyrica's solo spellcard. If anyone's willing to look at it and give me advice that isn't "shoot Lunasa during the first spellcard so you fight her instead of Lyrica" because I'm stubborn and want to beat Lyrica since I beat Merlin and Lunasa on my runs with the other two characters on Normal I would greatly appreciate it. Reimu's homing makes routing kind of hard but the stage portion doesn't give me much trouble at least.

>> No.17339593
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NMNB'd IN Ex up to Mokou's 6th spell, that NB is getting closer!
>>17337194
Like this. I did Reimu today, to be honest I thought it was going to be harder than Sakuya with her, but I got it with 3 lives left even.
>>17338935
>She gets easier as you lose to her (caps at like 3rd loss I believe?)
That makes sense, she didn't become easier on the other 2 fights, maybe I was relying on it a bit too much.
Problem with her is that her shit not only is dense as fuck but it is also fast dense shit.

>> No.17339601

>>17339593
Also thanks to that anon that made the HSiFS chart, might be useful.

>> No.17339657
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Anon who started with DDC here. I did it, I finally beat the game.

Now I have to 1cc it, and I can hit stage 5 without using up a continue, so I think that's at least a decent start. Even if it doesn't count due to not being a 1cc, I actually feel really good about this, /jp/

>> No.17339678

>>17339593
Oh you were that guy, I think you should be able to pull out another Lunatic 1cc, maybe with the Border Team, or Reimu in TD / PCB.

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>>17338774
Find custom_e.exe in your MoF directory

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When I said I wanted to beat Raiko legit, I meant it. Trying to figure out how to resource gather and actually learn the fight, unlike when I did it with lolMarisaB.

She won't take anywhere as long as say Hecatia though so I'll probably have my chart updated again next thread.

>> No.17342733
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How'd i get stage 5 without stage 4?

>> No.17342858

>>17342733
From the wiki:
>It's possible to Stage Practice a stage with a character that hasn't reached it in Story Mode. Affects: 1.00b
>Trying a spell card with a character that hasn't unlocked the spell's stage results in that stage being available for Stage Practice for that character.
Is this your bug?

>> No.17342897

>>17342858
That might be it, yeah.

>> No.17343480
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17343480

I've never bathed in this many resources before. I absolutely love this system, it feels fun and intuitive and very rewarding. Mysterious Purification Rod is also the absolute best rendition of Theme of Eastern Story of the games I've played yet.

With the exception of stage 4 I don't see the reasons this game is the black sheep of the series.

>> No.17343738

>>17338867
At least you know that you're not getting any better than that. You have peaked. Reached the zenith. Your Touhou life is fixed in an eclipse.

>> No.17343740

>>17327889
I haven't learned yet to keep an eye on the Trance filter, I've always looked at either the bottom 1/2 of the screen in general or where the boss is during spell cards to see where I should relocate. It feels weird glancing at the lower left corner and I forget to do it all the time. Practice practice practice I guess.

>> No.17343934

>>17343480
DDC always seemed pretty popular from what I've seen. It's a lot more popular than UFO and TD at least (not that I don't love UFO personally).

>> No.17344144

>>17310742
So, she seeks balance, she's just waaay more aggressive about it than you would expect from a priestess, am I hearing that right?

>> No.17344163

>>17304119
Eh? I swear I remember hearing something in the Canon once or twice about the danger of humans wandering away from the village at night and being susceptible to youkai attacks.

>> No.17344169

>>17339657
Nice work. You're on your way.
Baby steps, anon.

>> No.17344205

>>17336945
There's probably a "proper" way to get into Touhou, but I believe for series like this that it's a more organic and enjoyable to just play/read whatever you like that's related to the series, and follow your curiosity from there.

Personally, I was thinking of getting into the series for years before I just picked up MoF one day because I was intrigued by Hina's design.

...Also it helped to have the en.touhou wiki open to learn more background information about the mythology behind the characters. That made it way more engaging for me.

>> No.17344236

>>17339678
I'm not particularly seeking Lunatic 1ccs though.
I just play what I feel like really, I guess I'll go back to IN lunatic soon

>> No.17344895

>>17344163
They are susceptible because they have to believe that there is a real danger. If they believe it's dangerous and keep the fear, they don't have to actively enforce that fear by actually killing whoever goes out. It surely happens sometimes, but only just enough.

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