Elona

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>New? Start here:
http://pastebin.com/vmW2qYkD

>Mods:
http://pastebin.com/HcTtYVsn

>1.68 and prior versions changelogs:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Changelog_%28Elona%2B%29

>Elona Custom Discussion:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:25014

>Chat server back online:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:19535#107

>Previous Thread
>>17214476

Current Version: Elona+ 1.68 (5/28/2017)
Latest Custom: E+C 1.68.1

[Anonymous No.]

Whoops. Actual previous thread >>17214457

Sorry bros I was sleep

[Anonymous No.]

Is this game FUN?

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>>17233185
Plenty of fun.

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>>17233185
Skim a previous thread, read http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Elona, grab it, see if you like it.

[Anonymous No.]

I have problems with server.txt desu
how should it look like?

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>>17233282
Try removing that random space in front of it. Also check your serverlist in the config.txt it should look like this

serverList. "1" 0=auto retrieve 1=disable auto retrieve

Make sure you enabled network use in the actual ingame options.

[Anonymous No.]

So am a gunner and I want to use snipers, but I didn't find a single artifact sniper yet, they seem to be the rarest firearm, so far.

Any trick to "make" an artifact? Preferably Living.

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>>17233282
Having the same issue.
My file looks like that but I still get an error if I type in chat.

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>>17233443
You can make certain weapons through skills like spears with carpentry. Sniper rifles are not craftable. There's only one static artifact sniper and to get it you need 10000 music tickets (get performer skill and rev up those party quests) and reach the second continent (beat the main quest in the first continent).

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>>17233443
>Preferably Living

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>they keep murdering poor seminar mascot in parties
Why? What did that cute chest do to anyone?

[Anonymous No.]

I average 150 tickets per quest at my faith level, not bad.
I should afford one hero cheese per real time month, not that horrible.
... Please let the spirits still work somewhat, please.

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>>17233690
What up with your normal looking stats at that level, but with 1004 speed?

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>>17233690
I think about it this way.
10 little girls / (4 floors * 0.1 chance) = 25 dungeons you need on average to get a hero apple. Non-awakened dungeon you can breeze through shift-arrowing in a minute with pets, so that's one hero apple per half an hour if that's what you really want.
Why bother with tickets? I see it as a nice bonus on top of all the cool miracle/godly items that get thrown at you.

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Is there any difference between enchanting armor/weapons with scrolls / blacksmith?

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>>17233704
Going to reduce them all to 1 for the INI, why spend my potential potion hoard ?
Still need to up my gun skills for passing the Meshera though.

>>17233740
I'm a quickeling with 3life that needs to get two hands from gavela, so one cheese minimum, and i have a Karata pet that needs one hand and seven arms, so 8 cheeses or 9 total.
2 from quests, so still need 7.
And after the limb addition, we'd both be at 1 life, so i need a decent influx of cheese to fix that.
Thank Yacatect for the life perks and rubynus equipment.

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>>17233796
Aren't you going to need a few hundred of cursed Hermes potions to reduce your speed INI stat as well (since that affects AP gain even more than stat INI http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/AP)? Same for your pet.

Wouldn't it be easier to just start a gimped race like snail before nerfing to minimum stats instead of something with 1000 speed that you'll need to take down anyway?

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I wonder how much damage a Kai-level snail would take from salt.

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FUCK


I shoved booze down her throat til she puked

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>>17233779
Depending on the scroll there is a max number it can enchant your weapon/armor by.
I believe a basic scroll can't enchant your stuff past +4 and a greater +8.

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>>17233779
>>17234092
Basic enchant scrolls have a max of +0/+4/+5 for cursed/uncursed/blessed

Greater is +0/+6/+8

So no matter what you will have to go to a blacksmith eventually to get it to +10.

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>>17233912
The oblivion palace can reduce stats to 20 and speed to 50, so you only need 12 cursed hermes potions no matter where you start.

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Reposting from last thread since it died.

Have two melee pets, want to add a third, preferably ranged and/or magical in nature. Which of these diaries should I read?

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>>17234301
Younger Sisters have melee-oriented AI and will always charge right in. Young ladies also have melee-oriented AI but can throw potions and heal herself.

Older dog sisters are the only ones out of the girls you can summon right now that have range-oriented AI.

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>>17233151
so I'm a filthy /pol/ack that recently started to dick around with this game.
And aside from becoming a dirt farmer I haven't gotten anywhere
but I recently becae the proud owner of a cursed scroll of uncurse and that made me laugh quite a bit

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>>17234344
Here's a helpful tip: If you free the giant in Noyel, he'll actually join you in your adventure as a member of your party, so you can easily get a really powerful ally early on.

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>>17234359
While you're there, don't forget to drink from the Holy Well until it's dry, and refill it for extra bonus drinks!

[Anonymous No.]

Done with Jure. What's a good god to move onto?

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>>17234385
I've heard it is good to get Ehecatal done early so you can use her innate ability for better random equipment finds.

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>>17234344
>/pol/
Go back there.

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>>17234344
Don't listen to.
>>17234359
>>17234372
They are trying to screw you over. Getting to Noyel in the first place will be hard for you early game.

What you need to do is try and either get a rod of summon monsters, or a nuke to try and Kill He Whom Dwells in Vernis.
He has an amazing sword he drops on death that will give you a great start.

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>>17234446
He Whom Dwells in Vanity. Who is in Vernis. My bad.

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>>17234446
Don't listen to this guy, he's trying to get you killed. What you need to do instead is play piano in the Vernis bar, you'll unlock a quest to get a cloak that's very helpful early game.

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>>17234418

I dunno, since you need fish to raise her favor and fishing is so fucking dull...

I think I will go to opatos next since I already have a huge stockpile of gems.

Then either kumiromi or ehekatl. Probably kumiromi first.

Are the god feats useless after you renounce them? And can I stash a god pet in the dojo to go over the limit?

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>>17234344
>>17234446
>>17234458
You lads havin' a giggle?

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>>17234680
better buy it

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>>17233282
>>17233458
Delete the server.txt file and make a new one with the same name.

[Anonymous No.]

Here he is, the Holy Retard in the flesh. This is actually my first time playing since 4chan introduced to this shitpile of a masterpiece and I only recently discovered the importance of cooking.

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>>17234694
/pol/-san pls. Keep your image posts board related.

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>>17234714
>boy
>>17234685
>boy maid

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>>17234343

Got it. Now should I give this to her or not. Wish there was a way to safely reclaim engagement equipment from your pets.

I have a material kit (dragon scale) I could use on it, plus I would take it to +10 before handing it over. (if I can afford it). Seems like a waste but I also think this would last me until the point where I could give her something better. Thoughts?

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>>17234724
>>17234704
meant for this >>boy

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For whatever reason, all my spellbooks of nerve eye are only giving me stocks in nerve arrow. I don't think this is supposed to happen. Is nerve arrow just a very particular spell that can't actually be used by PCs?

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>>17234729
You gonna marry your big sister?

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>>17234730

Kanzruin is a bro
Even if he sometimes drinks crim ale until he passes out on the job

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>>17234344

Ah yes, the glory of the cursed uncurse

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>>17234344
In all seriousness glad you have gotten into the game /pol/ anon!
There is a beginners guide in one of the pastebin if you want some loose ideas of what you could be doing.

If you are really early the best generic advice is continue harvest time and easy close by delivery quests until you have some equipment in every slot and grab some skills. Then try easy hunting quests.

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>>17234773
Reminds me of the scroll of cure blindness (ADOM)

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Can you wrest last charge from empty rod like in nethack? What should i do with empty wishing rod

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>>17234743

Maybe. Or maybe I just want string her along through a series of increasingly difficult challenges ultimately leading to my confessing to the OG little girl. She was first girl after all.

So, material kit on an engagement amulet, Y/N?
I don't even know what the bonuses for dragon scale are on amulets.

>>17234808

No but you can use scrolls of recharge. Might not work on a wishing rod though.

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>>17234182
Is the handful of extra AP you'd get from that really worth it?
It sure doesn't look like it.

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>>17234816
You might want to save your kits for something that has more than one resist and can freely be swapped among pets. The crit is good, but not that good

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>>17234781
Going around grinding in the Puppy Cave for spellbooks and shit and exploring level 1 dungeons is a good way to do that too.

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In one party time quest I just saw two identical Whom Dwell in Vanities getting drunk and vomiting next to each other. What is happening

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>>17234745
Does your meido do THOSE things?

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>>17234816
I think the only thing the material kit would give you is a bit of fire and cold resistance.

Which isn't really worth it.

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>>17234733
Many spellbooks have different names from the spells they give stocks to, so it's likely nerve eye doesn't exist and it's actually nerve arrow. Is nerve arrow a single target spell? I know eye spells are.

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>>17233443
Like someone else said, get Valkoinen Kuolema and then try to get a copy via trading in little sisters to get a randomly generated sniper rifle

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Huh. For Party Time quests, you don't even need an instrument. You can just preach and it'll still get the job done.

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>>17235036
I thought that would just turn into stardust now since ano was trying to stop artifact cheesing or something?

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>>17235047
You can also use fascination dance (feat) or ensemble (30 performer), neither of which uses an instrument. But you don't get audience gifts from dancing, and ensemble takes so long that you often will still be performing as the quest ends, leaving you unable to pick up the items.

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>>17235056
You can pick up items with Elona Custom

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>>17235059
Neat

[Anonymous No.]

So yer the one... who's bin disrespectin' chestnuts huh?!

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>>17235055
oh shit you're probably right

[Anonymous No.]

>someone threw a fucking 85w stove for my performance
o-ok. I'll put it in my house i guess

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>>17235093
This dude is literally the only reason I don't use chestnuts on everything.

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>>17235160
Redpill me on that one
I often threw chestnuts at putits to get them at low enough health before capturing them, since anything else instantly killed them
Should I be worried?

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>>17235212
If you threw 100, he's coming for you

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>>17235212
>>17235218
>Its level is 111 + the player's throwing skill level
holy shit. I'm not touching chestnuts ever again

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>>17235407
I wonder if Kai could beat the Chestnut Giant?

What happens if you summon it in the Abyss?

[Anonymous No.]

Help, I'm new and I was hoping someone can tell me how to stop mages from raping my main character.

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>>17235455
Get a big gun, get resistances and learn shadowstep.

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>>17235428
This giant is easy for any high-level character, you don't need Kai to defeat him.

Also, he only spawns in wilderness, but if you somehow spawn him in void, I'd imagine he'll get the same level boost as other monsters.

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>>17235428
I just killed him, and I'm only level 48. He only shows up on the world map immediately after you throw chestnuts for the 100th time. You hear the spooky mutation sound and suddenly you're in the wilderness with him all up in your face.

My party surrounded and beat him to death while I threw more chestnuts at him. I cooked him into a fine hamburger. The cut damage on hitting him does hurt, my dual wielding pet almost killed herself with her multiple attacks.

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>>17235428
>I wonder if Kai could beat the Chestnut Giant?
Gee I wonder. How in the world could the strongest character in these threads with capped HP and massive damage per turn beat a generic level 2111- mob whose only two gimmicks are causing bleeding when struck, and dying horribly to thrown chestnuts?
He's really not that dangerous anon. Even my pleb melee character with no pets can easily handle him and she's only in Lost Irva.

[Anonymous No.]

My lvl 150 void boss turned out to be Siva the motherfucking Destroyer. Holy ****.
Did I just get extremely unlucky to roll this fucker or is this normal? I am going to be stuck here for a long, long time.

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>>17235455

Thow alcohol at them. Can't cast (as well) while drunk.

My god sister is a beast. She's not even half the level of the rest of my party and she just keeps shooting everything dead. Makes me worry she's hogging all the experience.

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>>17235546
We're all grown-ups here, you can swear as much as you like.

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>>17235570
Swear words can't sum up my despair at finding this literal ball of death blocking my way to AP heaven.

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>>17235568
Better throw gasoline/essence oil/potion of confusion. Drunkness does not interfere with casting, only confusion does.

Alternatively, get a grenade.

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>>17234704
>you were loaded onto the Queen Sedona while you slept
>you easily get carried away

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>>17235568
>Makes me worry she's hogging all the experience.
Let her tag-team with someone and she'll split all the EXP and AP gain with her tag-team partner.

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>>17235642
Shit I didn't notice that one

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>>17234781
thanks I've been doing just that (and getting the hang of the controlls at the same time)
I've found the wiki to be very,very usefull as the game pushes you of the deep end makes you sink or swim
It's been a lot of fun
I guess my post got zucced due to marisa's firly dess not being cannon

[Anonymous No.]

Hey guys what's that site with the nice PCCs that are good to edit, again?

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>>17235701
Just download the chinese anon pack from the pastebin, it has most of them. You're probably talking about the sprites by 陣野雑記, which I and others have used a lot. http://blog.goo.ne.jp/jinnno-cf/c/e05e4fdb971877fb5f977bba53849369

There are some on pixiv and scattered on blogs/the uploader that aren't in the pastebins, but not many.

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>>17235713
Thanks greatly. I'll do that.

I've been playing this enough, and have photoshop, so I might as well do some experimenting.

[Anonymous No.]

Hey guys. Remember my tutorial? Of course you did. It's the best tutorial ever and I bet after you did it you knew everything about the game to never die again. You should be thankful. Thankful enough to donate gold to me anytime you see me. Oh and Eleas are number one. Go team.

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>>17235721
Do not save color space information, save your files as .bmp 24-bit R8G8B8, do not use interpolation when resizing images. It's helpful to use a select by color tool to replace colors, or you can shift image hue/saturation. Unless you're doing a really simple edit it's best to have every part (hair, base, clothing) on a seperate layer, which also makes future work easier.

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>>17235776
Yeah, I actually know most of the basics for sprite editing, I ran a Pokemon Tabletop Game in Roll20 where I was autistically determined to only use Pokemon-style sprite art so I did a lot of editing and mix-matching stuff. I learned about interpolation, nearest neighbor is your friend if you need to resize.

The big thing is the bmp format, thanks.

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>>17235762
What a low quality impersonation Saimore, not even my younger sister would be fooled

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>>17235795
Chapter 3 was the first time I realized "forest dungeons" existed, thank you stone of awakening. Before I thought they were just decorative trees on the world map.

[Anonymous No.]

Heavy, Medium or Light Armor?

Pianist here.

[Anonymous No.]

Something everyone here should read, the Elona main story synopsis:
https://web.archive.org/web/20151105083758/http://elona.squares.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5025#p30358

Older players will probably have read this long ago, I only just remembered it even existed

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>>17235857
No armor will save you from rocks, my pianist colleague. Just avoid Loyter and all will be fine.

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>>17235407
He's not that bad later in the game. But if you are in early game and where you feel you HAVE to throw chestnuts to kill things? Then you are in for a bad time.

>>17235641
Speaking of grenades, does the invoke damage scale off tactics or throwing?
Want to know if it is viable to keep using the grenade I have as I move forward.

>>17235690
Mind sharing your character sheet? Or just saying your race/class?

>>17235871
Is that spoiler filled for anyone that has enjoyed the plot so far and doesn't want to ruin any twists?

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>>17235660
Tag team?

>>17235641
Well it's worked well for me so far.

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>>17235932
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Tag_organization
It's actually pretty useful.

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>>17235904
If I read wiki right, then tactics only affects the impact damage, while throwing affects both impact damage and the strenght of grenade invoke.

It will be totally viable... until everyone gets superb sound resist.

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>>17235963
>superb sound resist

That's what nightmare exists for.

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Are there any good fox brother PCCs laying about?

[Anonymous No.]

What did I do to deserve this

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>>17236129
They're not hostile but they keep multiplying
Is this the anti-little sister abuser army?

[Anonymous No.]

What level can I start doing Party Time Quests in Elona+, without worrying about dying?

[Anonymous No.]

Should I get Shield Tonfa since I'm just a beginner who gets getting killed by mages and nerve arrows?
I have like 50 small medals laying around.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't seem to initiate sleep share with squeeze. What's going on?

[Anonymous No.]

1.69 just dropped and it's a steaming pile of shit.
Shop nerf, rng nerf, shop skills a shit.
It really start to look like he doesn't know where he is headed.

What's his endgame?

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>>17236364
Ruin Elona+ so that all the filthy gaijin piggu stop bothering with it, and then drastically improve everything for the remaining Japanese userbase.

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>>17236375
He's still buttmad about elona custom?

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>>17236364
>rng nerf
Did they lower drop chances after increasing it to compensate for the anti savescum shit?

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>>17236383
>anti savescum shit
Savescumming is still possible too. Disabling quickloading just makes it slightly more tedious.

If a person's gonna be a savescumming fuck, they're going to find a way to be a savescumming fuck (source: I'm a savescumming fuck).

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>>17236129
Try having to clean up the mess at the younger sisters mansion after someone drinks from the toilet and summons a summoning monster.

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>>17236364
Good thing I already downloaded 1.68 everything.

>removed all netcode, tab no longer pops up chat
Wow, that could actually fuck up the new chat server. What the fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

Can I get Elona+ running on Linux okay? I was never able to get original Elona running properly.

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>>17236364
What the fuck's his deal? This isn't a goddamn MMORPG. If he's going to be doing unnecessary balance changes maybe make it so all endgame isn't Martial Arts by a huge margin?

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>>17236396
Maybe he's telling us that online chatting was disabled for a reason?

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>>17236417
Which is?

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>>17236396
>server dies
>no more funny death messages
>no more visiting weird houses through random portals
>no more Ray of Gay Jay
>people finally start trying to bring the server back
>netcode immediately removed
why

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>>17236400
Yes, although your Linux installation might not have MIDI support, so if you want to play the MIDI music you'll need something like this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TiMidity%2B%2B

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>>17236430
Elona is a serious online game, not a relaxing single-player sandbox.

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>>17236432
YOU'RE HAVING FUN EXACTLY LIKE I WANT YOU TO
BAKA GAIJIN

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>>17236446
We'll now it's not even online.

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>>17236403
I second this so much. It's not even for me, my MA little girl outdamages everyone else by wide margin, steals all the kills, pickpockets all the coins to get even stronger, leaving 10 other pets in the dust.

This is shit. It's even reflected in enemies: predators are most dangerous enemy class, because they don't have weapons (-> use MA), have bonus to MA (-> more damage), and Eye of Mind (-> to fuck your shit up with crits), so they deal crapton more damage compared to enemies with weapons.

>>17236417
I think he removed it because in vanilla E+ chat servers are still not working, so why keep this useless code?


I actually enjoy the loot trigger, I'm getting more artifacts than before without having to savescum for it. Shop update is overkill, but they were making too much money.

[Anonymous No.]

Calm down people.
It seems like the chat tab is disabled for the Japanese version of the game. The patch notes mention Japanese specifically.
It seems Ano may have left it in for English just for us, which is surprisingly nice if true.

Can someone test this?

[Anonymous No.]

>Changed the chance of summoning a fox brother from a mysterious diary from 2% to once every 12 diaries.
That made my work a lot less tedious.

>Pets who have the prerequisite skills for breakfast or handmade gift events but are not the target NPC for those events can now help out. When helping out, half of their relevant skill levels will be added to the target NPC's skill levels, and they will also receive half the amount of experience. They can help out even if they are holding on to a pleasant sleep blanket. This means that it's no longer a waste for multiple pets to have those skills.
Also nice.

>means that pets can eat more times.
Good for herbs

>silver fox brother, secret catsister npc.
Definitely interested in this and also that he is adding more evolutions.

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>>17236474
>silver fox brother
As a fox collector, I am interested.

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>>17236476
>Secret catsister NPC. (Default level is 1, but actual level may vary.)
>Uses Touch of Fear, Dark eye, Ice Ball, Element Scar, and Holy Shield.
>Will also use Resolution Hand on himself when not already buffed.

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>>17236470
Yep, it works like it should.

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>>17236490
Huh. So Ano does care about english users.

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>>17236490
Yay!
Now we just need to come to terms with the death of Yacatet.

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>>17236490
Well, that's good. Although it's still a bit of a downer that they're just giving up like that. If we got a server running, they can too! (I mean, it's Japan! They have actual internet infrastructure, unspoiled by telco monopolies!)

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>>17236490

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>>17236490
I haven't gotten around elonachat yet and according to the wiki thread, I need info based on the main site's server.txt which was hotlinked there, but threw an error message.
Following the instructions, I changed the config and made a new server.txt with "elochat-proxy.shiroko.yi.org%elona.squares.net%" written on it, but elonaplus/elonaC opened a pop up repeating that very text with nothing else on it

I started out playing after the chat was dead, so I can have my fun without feeling something lacking, but if anyone has a clue as to what I'm supposed to fix, help would be deeply appriciated

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>>17236550
Just press / and hit tab twice. If you see a bunch of player messages, you're connected.

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>1.69
Oh dear god please stop adding more NPCs I was so close to catching up.

[Anonymous No.]

If I want the most freebie earned by upgrading my game version, which elona+ version should I keep?

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>>17236590
Just get Elona and abuse exploits and then when you're bored transfer your save to the latest version of Elona+.

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>>17236554
Not that anon but possibly a dumber question. I have the chat up and running, but I cant for the life of me figure out how to send a message.

I hit tab, type a message, and then enter, but it doesn't show up in the log.

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>>17236490
If there is one what's the quick button for the chat?

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>>17236614
I'm not sure what might be the problem there. Even if you're offline, your message should at least show up in your log. Try sending a message and checking the chat, maybe your messages are just not showing in your log for some reason.

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>>17236609
I know of one version that give the cores (1.42 I think), and another that give the item to add body part (dunno which version).
That's mostly to keep the most important version and not each and every one since elona.

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>>17236129
I'd understand if it was a rare occurance, but I'm getting that horde of little sisters pop out of nowhere in almost if not every single instance I get into. May it be Lesimas or the wilds.
Did I miss something while I was away from Elona? Is this normal?

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>>17236633
Wait, I got it backwards. They show up in my log, but not in the chat with everyone else.
It's working since the chat is being updated, but my messages don't go there.

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>>17236647
We're talking about sleep sharing, see us?

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>Just discovered savescum
What have I done?

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>>17236641
I mean, I'm not really complaining. It's my own personal army of little sisters. That's what I had in mind when I chose the title "Wannabe Father" but I thought it'd happen through more..common means. Like using a diary.

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>>17236657
That's a cnpc I think.
You must have downloaded it at some time.

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>>17236647
I have no idea what the problem is then. I'm no expert on the workings of the chat sadly.

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>>17236653
Yeah I see the sleep sharing talk, and the last message being Stormbringer.
I just type messages by pressing tab, the message, and then enter, but none of them get sent to the chat for some odd reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>TraitElegance
>Increases Charisma by 30 when acquired.
>Increases the amount of money that visitors to your shop carry by 75% and 2,000. >This does not apply to NPCs that are generated with 0 gold.
Nice, basically it garrantees emptying the shop almost no matter the number of items on sale at the first midnight shift.

>TraitAestheticSense
>When trading items, items are worth 33% + 300gp more.
So, it goes from 36%max +20% from specialised shop = 43.2% +33% = 57.456% ?
Is that right, he left us jews a way to still profit from the labour of others ?

[Anonymous No.]

>Elona custom patch was 5MB some versions ago
>Now is 3MB

Did i missed something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17236701
I'm doing the same.
After sending the message, you will see it typed twice.
See the part at the end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17236719
Wait no, it's capped at 33% even with the specialised shop multiplier, so assuming the 33% from the perk applies it still ends up at 43.89
I guess i'm not updating yet, besides only the "eat with your pet" thing interest me.

[Anonymous No.]

Nice ambush.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17233151
New version of the Younger Sister Pack: http://www.mediafire.com/file/ldtudl36k5f72e8/Younger_Sister_Pack_7.RAR
Updated the character.bmp, item.bmp, interface.bmp, map0.bmp, and map1.bmp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17236381
>buttmad about elona custom
wait was that a thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>17236728
>>17236728
Not sure what is going on, but I still can't get anything through.
Oh well, it is still nice to be able to see people's chat messages.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17236884
Yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

Somebody post house/shop layouts that they have/are cool so I can steal them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17236929
You too, eh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17236929
That's a wip, can't show.

[Anonymous No.]

Wait. Are chat messages supposed to appear in the log, or only in the chat?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17236991
They should show in both, but I'm going to assume you're experiencing the same thing I am and chat doesn't show in your log.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17236918
youre telling the the guy doing an unofficial mod for a game got mad at someone doing an unofficial mod of his mod

[Anonymous No.]

>>17236999
Yes. Someone post the picture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17236997
Yep. That is exactly what is happening. I didn't even think about it until I saw an anon's example screenshot. I just assumed chat messages only popped up in the chat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17236441

Okay, thanks, I actually already have MIDI setup for other things.

[Anonymous No.]

>Finally get Jure high enough favor to get a Defender pet.
>Is Female.

I suppose a sagely older woman to try and teach my little girl proper manners is still nice. But I really wanted a Defender bro and the sprite looks in no way feminine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17237151
>the sprite looks in no way feminine.
That's what the shape change option is for. That, or you cook up some forbidden meat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17237152
I don't really like editing things, except for adding a tone.txt for pets.
I might break my savescum clause once to give it a second try.
And if it turns out to be female again I guess it was just fate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17236152

Player level is irrelevant, and it depends on what method you're using. I can't remember at what point Preaching became completely safe for me, but I'm pretty sure even when I was around 40ish Faith with Unknown Shell I had to avoid Loyter, Vanity, and the seminar people. Fascination Dance was always completely safe even when I had barely 20 Charisma. Efficacy was variable (sometimes a dance would get literally 0 points even though everyone showed hearts, sometimes it would get double what I just got from preaching) but no one ever threw a rock at me. Performing I couldn't say as I've been too lazy to train it.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE-vX9eU7hw
Despite how silly this game is I still get really immersed in my characters and their stories.

[Anonymous No.]

hey guys is there any way to regain karma quickly aside from giving whatsherface cure corruption potions?
its possible i MAY have gone into a party time quest and spammed magic dart
and it may be possible i went from 20 karma to -76
it MAY have been all those noble children and tourists i killed (did NOT know there was a karma penalty)
T^T

[Anonymous No.]

>>17237208
do dungeon, bury corpse during random event, collect lost bags

[Anonymous No.]

>>17237208
Go buy an indulgence if you can afford it to slash your negative karma in half.
Alternatively you can wish for atonement, but that is wasteful.

[Anonymous No.]

I fucked up and lost the monster balls for the scientists quest. What's the best way to find more?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17237306
Unless you want to bruteforce making them yourself with a pot of fusion the next best way to get them is in Act 2.
You're pretty much screwed without godly luck in dungeons.

Alternativly they very very rarely show up in general shops so if you're patient and don't mind getting them one at a time over the course of half an game year that's sort of an option.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17237306
Ugh man, I remember when I did that. It's seriously a luck thing from there, just invest in general stores and watch them closely. You might get lucky and find them in dungeons too, but it's gonna be rough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17237321
>>17237362
Ah well. I was actually thinking of making a new character anyway- this one was my first and I think with the knowledge I've gained I could make a much better go of it.

[Anonymous No.]

Changelog for 1.69 certainly was not kidding about there being more resource nodes in dungeons when fever mode is active. Certainly will help with crafting.

>>17236158
Probably have more luck tackling the root of the problem and getting nerve resistance and possibly other resists against the spells hitting you. The shield tonfa can help but don't expect the shield tonfa nullify damage thing to proc often.

>>17236269
Check to see if your bed is big enough. A happy bed or the kings bed for instance should work.

>>17236364
I like some of the changes. Fever mode, food sharing, and I suppose pets getting hungrier can help their training. Sucks what happened to shops but I'm still making a good amount of gold from them.

>>17236929
Picture of my blacksmith and inn.

>>17237208
If you can cast resurrection, you can kill the bard in town(no karma penalty), resurrect the bard to get 2 karma, kill the bard again, leave town, enter, resurrect bard for karma, and repeat until your karma is capped. I feel bad for killing bards though. Other ways to raise karma out of the negatives could be doing quests in Derphy and hoping for bury adventurer events in dungeons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17237401
Going to experiment with selling cheese in a bit.I'm making a decent amount of gold selling food I got from cooking the corpses from dungeons and selling spellbooks, scrolls, potions, and rods from said dungeons as well. Also crafted some stuff to fill out inventory. Haven't been able to experiment with any of the store feats yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17236381
>>17236918
>>17237017
Disproven in these very threads. Don't try to start shit.

[Anonymous No.]

I kind of wish 1.69 was an all-shit update. There's stuff in there that looks nice, but I cannot afford to update when my income is 100% reliant on my shops and this would completely cripple me financially. Guess it's a kick in the ass to progress faster if I want to share meals with my little girl. By the time I could benefit from fever mode I'll be able to survive the gutting of shops, I'm sure.

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck is wrong with Pastebin? I can access it only every other week. It could be something with my router setup, but how come it starts working again some time later by itself? And it's just Pastebin and nothing else. I can access it through "unblocker" websites, so I'm confused.

[Anonymous No.]

I finally stopped pushing it for later and changed the whole thing to rubynus.
Got 120% more pv, nice.

Also repair crafted the clawn, gun and ammo, it's really impressive how dramatic miracle/normal range is.
I really need to be on the lookout for godly claws, laser guns and energy cells, even with sub-par enchantments they're a must.

[Anonymous No.]

Came across this at a blackmarket dealer. Time to see what kind of stupid stuff I can do with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17237663
eat it

[Anonymous No.]

Any news on when the Custom 1.69 is coming out?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17237680

[Anonymous No.]

>>17237718
Plz tell me you have a save before you did this that you're going to reload.
Its too sad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17237721
I have a save before this, but is there really a reason to load?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17237724
You know damn well why you should reload.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17237728
So I can eat it again, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17237731
NO YOU STUPID CUNT SO YOU CAN GET YOUR LIVING WEAPON BACK.
I'VE GOT MONTHS OF PLAYTIME AND HAVE NEVER SEEN EVEN ONE AND THEN YOU GO AND WASTE YOURS EATING IT.
YOU DIDN'T EVEN LEVEL IT UP WITH STAT BOOSTERS BEFORE YOU DID FOR THE GAINS.

[Anonymous No.]

put cool stuff here
ftp. cap stone-cre ative.com
u: m ain@ca psto ne-cre ativ e.com p: 1Capst0n3

[Anonymous No.]

>>17237749

[Anonymous No.]

>>17237774
MOTHER FUCKER

[Anonymous No.]

>>17236623
/ + 7 on a numpad.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is cooking so OP? I gave up the adventuring life to cook and now with 1.69 they added even more things to help in cooking like butter. I can now make yogurt and cheese too. I just can't hold all these ingredients.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17237804
I thought they cut shop multiplier from food shops (and all specialized shops) from 2.5 to 1.2x?
Wouldn't that fuck you in the ass more than cheeses/butters/we can salvage?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17237306
> Monster balls crafted with item fusion no longer have a random level, and will now always depend on the deepest dungeon floor cleared. Upper limit 140.
You may want to update to 1.69 just for this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17237837
I don't see how hard it is to just make one shop and leave the little girl there to sell all the crap I cook. Once it's set up it's pretty much the same effort to sell it in my shop for a bit more gold than vendor sell it. I really don't understand how some people think it's the end of the world that shops got nerfed a bit. Especially when some people are crying they don't even know what to spend their money on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17237841
How is this relevant when the scientist accepts balls of any level?
This change is nice if you want to stay stuck in act 1 but one may just invest a bit into the act 2 shopkeeper to get a steady lvl200 supply.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17237401
Why is there no decent map capture program? Makes no sense for a game like this not to have it and ending up with a Frankenstein screenshot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17235904
>Is that spoiler filled?
Only if you haven't beaten act 1 yet, and even then most of it you don't even see in-game in the english version.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17238194
Unless you play Elona Custom, which has all the cutscenes in place.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't get female magic store vendor and wizard as my servants, it's always males. Can't cook forbidden meat either, I don't remember ever seeing a book of mutation. What should I do? I don't want boys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17238249
I've also been wondering this, I've never seen a mutation book either. Get it through mage guild reservation maybe? I want to make a girly fox brother into a real girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>17238314
>girly fox brother (girl)

[Anonymous No.]

Sorry if this is a retarded question, I'm still learning the game:

Should I be worried about pumping non-combat skills too much? I play a lot of Elder scrolls, where you have similar skill training and enemy scaling systems. A common issue in those games is if you train your non-combat skills and start levelling up a lot, you'll start falling behind the pace of the world as stronger monsters appear and your combat skills are up to par. Is this A Thing in Elona?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17238413
Enemies don't scale based on your skills, you only encounter stronger enemies on average based on your fame which you can alter yourself.

Dungeons generated are still random even if fame raises their average danger level, and strength of enemies depends on the danger level of the dungeon so you can still just pick the easy ones if you'd like. Same with quests. Games with actual level scaling are shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>17238413
Level management used to be a thing before Elona+ but now it really doesn't matter at all since most things that matter scale to fame.
Just fail fetch quests occassionally to keep fame manageable and you don't need to train fighting much.
Honestly so long as you aren't intentionally gimping yourself even that doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17238413
Will you be buying The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim for the Nintendo Switch, anon-kun?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17238413
Your stats increase based on the skills you use, so you're always getting stronger and better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17238423
>>17238425
Thanks, I couldn't tell if fame mattered more for enemy strength, or if it was mostly based on character level.

>>17238430
>buying an ES game for console
>ever
I love your lies, Todd. But not that much.

[Anonymous No.]

How does arena work?
If I get 100 wins in a row + the 20k prize, can I do another 100 wins for another prize?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17238413
A bigger problem is pets who get big fast like Arnold on steroids while you're still that lanky 50kg squat boy.
If you farm your pets far into the void, realize you're far behind on AP then get annihilated when left solo you know you have a problem.

Dungeons of whatever level aren't a problem unless you awaken them. Then it becomes living hell.

[Anonymous No.]

B-but I didn't do anything.

[Anonymous No.]

And now it's time for !!FUN!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17238532
Like normal NPCs they sometimes get drunk and fight other nearby NPCs. Should've kept them in different rooms you baka.

[Anonymous No.]

How do I remove them though? I don't think they work like usual mad adventurers. Walls and new identity both have no effect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17238740
There's a wish that banishes them all, I think.

[Anonymous No.]

Can you equip claws or shields with shotguns? I've just been leaving both hand slots free and putting the shotty in range but I just dropped a bretty gud claw.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17238865
>They do not attack on their own, but use their offensive statistics to improve the damage from every other melee or ranged attack, adding both accuracy and damage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17236490
How do you have your pets enter the same square as you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17238885
He's using the tag team feature.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17238461
awakened dungeons are great, blue EKG heartbeats and AP for everyone every turn

[Anonymous No.]

>>17238875
I was afraid of a skill penalty like with two-handed. t-thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>17238865
you can equip whatever you want in your hands and still use a gun
you can even put more guns in your hand slots if you want

[Anonymous No.]

>>17238896
but there wouldn't be a benefit to that would there? I'm equipping rogue archers with shotguns so I'm thinking of putting a claw and shield in their hand slots or two claws. Or dual-wielding shields depending on the situation. Does it work it like that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17238921
Resists and whatever modifiers come after resists. My gunner has machinegun in range slot as her main weapon, double pistols (for +2000 extra attacks) and a lightsaber (with lots of resists) in his main hands.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17237583
Did you make that sprite?
It looks pretty good.

[Anonymous No.]

What are the most important things to resist and when do I get status effect immunities from it?

I know sound = dim and Mind = insanity.

[Anonymous No.]

Now that I have the Otogiri I need to settle on a main weapon. I've been dual wielding the Elemental Staff and the Staff of Insanity so far and lived with the penalty to casting chance. Magic is my primary method of dealing with hostile goons so something with enhanced spellls as a primary weapon would be ideal. I have some staff skill so I was thinking about the Vice Staff from Sophia, but I buggered the quest up for now and I have no idea at what day I'm supposed to talk to her. Another contender is the Scythe of Void. The mana absorption sounds really tempting and I have a few flying scrolls stored to reduce its weight. I could also grab it right now unlike the Vice Staff. The downside is my non-existent skill in scythes and the weaker enhanced spell attribute on it. The wildcard is the Elemental Staff from Itzpalt. I got it before static artifacts were nerfed (no more additional random attributes) and also got enhanced spells on it, but I don't know how big the bonus is. Is there a item I could use or a NPC who could tell me how big the actual bonus is, i.e. numbers and not #####?
Vice Staff, Scythe of Void or possibly the Elemental Staff. Any other contenders for a wizard who occasionally whacks some ponce on the head?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17239005
No, i found it in a chinese pack long ago.
Here, have it.

I did crop the portrait myself though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17239134

[Anonymous No.]

I've got to say that this thread is probably the nicest and most helpful on 4chan. You are all great and I love you guys!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17239148
There are occasions where /jp/ decides to not be smarmy bastards for a change.
This is one of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>find fountain in dungeon.
>Actually get wish.
>can finally get a scroll of flying to curse and make Diablo good for 2 hand.
>type scroll of flying.
>get 2 faith scrolls.

There is always next time, but it still feels bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17239148

[Anonymous No.]

>>17239130
I'm wearing Blood Rod in main (+500 to magic power, +450 mag. resist, +500 casting) and Magic Staff of Corruption (躰蝕の魔杖???) (+1200 to magic power and a lot of fluff) in ranged slot, random tonfa in second slot for 100% cast chance. I find anything less e.g. 92% failure is too shit vs. strong bosses where one mistake can mean party wipe.

Both staff artifacts dropped from void bosses. I stopped using the staff from the crypt boss and the elemental staff a while a go, they are just too weak for midgame IMO. Haven't gone far enough in the campaign to see Void staff, don't even know what it does because I hate spoilers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17239229
*vice staff

[Anonymous No.]

>>17239134
>>17239138
Nice, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17239229
The Vital Flayer has that nice +1200 boost, but I'm not sure about all the penalties to almost all attributes. Do you know where I can look up the actual attribute bonus in numbers and not in #####?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17239259
It's -17 to all +17 to magic but these are fluff and don't matter when you get attributes high enough and want as much power as possible to beat resists and HP bloat.
Actually attribute maluses = easier attribute training, so it may even help a bit if you're on the attribute boosting spree like I always am.

As for your question, I'm using custom mod that lets you look up item numbers when you have the Heart artifact in your inventory, no idea how it works in vanilla.

[Anonymous No.]

Guy, help.

How do I put items for sale in my shop? Do I just drop them on the floor?

[Anonymous No.]

I died. Picked up a moon gate by accident.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17239409
You can just drop them all into a single pile wherever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17239466
Thanks.

Should I use a blessed or madam's favorite bed? I have one of each on sleep sheeps. I also have a happy bed in my house but it doesn't seem like there's a way to make it way less.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17239474
Scroll of inferior material, turn happy bed into paper. I don't know if it still works in 1.69, it did in 68.
Happy bed is best you can have, as far as I know increased quality or blessing doesn't make it better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17238769
It says you need to wish for it at the same map where the gods are. Was trying to find rods of wishing all this time with no luck. Maybe there are other ways to get them other then vendors?
Could also savescum with wish spell but I'd rather not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17239569
You could try and force a wish be drinking from a toilet since they aren't that heavy and count as a fountain for wishing purposes. Just keep refilling it and try not to get in the gods ways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17239569
You could try using a deed of removal deed and replace your house. Hired servants are lost. Maybe it resets the current status of occupants as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17239609
I'll try that.
>>17239613
Tried that, didn't help. And servants didn't go anywhere, too.

[Anonymous No.]

I have to say though, repeatedly drinking from a toilet to banish evil gods from you house sounds really stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17239632
Sounds like an episode from some harem anime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17239627
You don't realize how cool of a house you got now. It's basically a pocket Valhalla.
For merchants and stuff you actually need, use stairs and make another floor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17239641
I'm not sure if it's possible. Should I remove my vendors from another floor first?

[Anonymous No.]

First floor: two inner gods bashing their skulls in over petty insults thrown while drunk
Second floor: actual home

Do it.

[Anonymous No.]

Toilet did the trick. They're gone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17239740
Praise the toilet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17239740
>>17239632
This is what I love about elona. Dude manages to convince gods to stay at hid home, only for them to get into a drunken disagreement that breaks out into an unbound apocalyptic fight.
So what does the adventurer do? Summons the wish goddess from a TOILET, and in what I can only hope is a dramatic fashion yells out the word to banish them back to the realm of the gods.

What other games let you do that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17239662
"Move a stayer"? Not sure if it would work on floors apart from main, but worth a try.
If all fails you could just move your vendors to somewhere on the main floor away from the carnage.

[Anonymous No.]

Came here to say necromancy owns. Beats getting cockblocked by a void-spawned Yerleswood or Shiva who can one shot anything but get stuck in undead dragon meat for some reason.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any penalty to taking a heavy weapon that's "suited for two-handed use" like the piledriver, feather scrolling it and dual-wielding?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17239829
Dwarf Fortress has stuff like that on a less-cosmic level. Stuff like a dwarf giving birth in the middle of battle and then beating a goblin to death with her own baby while her baby's throwing little baby punches at said goblin. Or a dwarf sculpting tentacle rape onto the fortress wall. Dwarves writing philosophy about cultures, war, math, etc. maybe a tome about the history of some place or the science behind falling even.

You could even have a queen ask you to hunt down a vampire plotting to assassinate the king, only for her to turn into said vampire and assassinate the king right in front of you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240085
It wouldn't be heavy anymore and you'd lose the benefits from 2-handing a weapon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240085
No. It will lose the "suitable" tag as soon as it's light enough, and will gain the tag for dual wielding if you make it that light.
Those tags are purely based on the weapons weight.

[Anonymous No.]

Whoa, it's the first time something good happened out of my pets drinking from random wells

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240108
Hello fellow young lady fan

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240095
>>17240102
I wonder what's dual-wielding a 1d150 spear and 1d75 axe at decent skill would be like. Both give massive crit boni too.

[Anonymous No.]

What do you do with statues that don't fit in the museum anymore? Can you sell them in your general store?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240184
Storage houses.

[Anonymous No.]

What does the star next to an attribute means? I got one next to my constitution and isn't really sure what to google it as.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240225
It means you're wearing stuff that gives boni to said attribute.

[Anonymous No.]

They are not holding back with traps on gravity floors. I think this is the first time I actually searched around me after every step. Nefia dungeons are amusing.

[Anonymous No.]

So lemme get this straight: You have a potential which translates into learning skills faster

But the more you level it, the lower potential gets until you rest or get an event?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240270
>until you rest or get an event?
Or you go to a trainer to raise your potential. You can also eat herbs to raise potential as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240265
>onii-san

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240270
The higher the potential the faster you gain attribute points, skills and spell levels.

Blessed potion of potentials are what you, me and everybody else needs. They raise the potential of your major attributes. One of the first major goals is getting a steady supply of them. Usually achieved by investing in magic vendors. I have three at my home. You can create them yourself with a sufficient alchemy skill, but the needed materials for those potions are not exactly common. You get the materials from gathering spots and from pets with utility and crafting skills like detection, mining, gardening, fishing, etc.
To raise the potential of skills you need to visit a trainer and pay them PP to raise the potential of skills.

[Anonymous No.]

>Making my way down the dungeon easy as fuck
>Last level
>Keep killing bitches left and right
>Just one room left
>Open door, instantly get annihalted by 3 mages
How do i even get a decent defence chance against wizards and such? Does it all come down to resistance?

[Anonymous No.]

The difficulty spike from void floor 200 to 201 is *insane*. That is all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240319
Congrats on making this far. Beware of bears.

[Anonymous No.]

How'd you get more followers? Charisma at every 4 point or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240313
Elemental Staff is a lifesaver for starter characters. 3-star resists to basic elements is incredible for when you're just starting out. Get Itzpalt, sacrifice a bunch of wands then switch if you like.
And yep, resists are probably the most important equipment stat - this stays true throughout all of the game AFAIK.

[Anonymous No.]

Can't seem to get bonuses on my cheese. Wonder if that's a bug because the changelogs say you can get bonuses on them when you craft them via the pot for fusion.

>>17237897
Sure would be useful. There used to be one in the past but it doesn't work anymore. It's unfortunate that the only thing I can really do is F9 to hide some of the interface and stitch together pictures for large maps. Unless someone has a better idea of what to do about capturing a map. I'm all ears for it.

>>17240184
I dropped a register in my museum and expanded it out so I could put more statues in it. Wanted that rank 1 museum since it contributes a relatively easy 20k gold to your salary. If you've expanded already and still can't hold all your statues then yeah storage houses like anon said is an option. You can sell them but I don't recall statues going for a lot of gold but hey if you need to get rid of them then you do what you must.

>>17240225
If the symbol is a * and it's by the number in parenthesis then it means the attribute is being maintained. Can check for yourself if you start unequipping and reequipping things to toggle the * symbol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240341
>Every character may have at least 2 pets, plus one more pet for every five charisma starting from 10, up to a maximum total of fifteen pets. Pets assigned as shopkeepers, breeders, told to stay at your house (including maids), and pets waiting in town, all count towards this total.
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Charisma

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240313
savescum until you kill them before they kill you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240351
Sorry, i was frusterated at not finding the answer to another question so i didn't use the wiki.

It's a great tool, but it requires very spesific questions to find the right page

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240313
Resistance, and health. Levels help too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240359
I don't even know how to savescum in this game, nor do i really want to. I just want to know what's giving me defence against magic cunts since they usually 2-3 shot me, while anyone else barely dents my health as a gunner

I suspect restistances is the key, but how the fuck am i to know what faggot Y tosses at me? Especially when Faggot X throw something else

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240380
You look at your log and you read what they cast at you. If it says something like they cast fire bolt then most likely fire resist is being checked. If the spells are 2-3 shotting you then either your resistances are not that good against their attacks or you're underleveled.

[Anonymous No.]

I want somewhere to store my unique corpses but my freezer is full. What do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240436
Use antiseptic on them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240445
Jeez how could I forget about that. Thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240436
I also have a bunch of unique corpses in my freezer, what do I even do with them? Isca the fallen angel has been living in my house for 2 years and this entire time her own corpse has been in the freezer waiting to give her a spook

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240457
You can use 4-dimensional pocket for storing corpses. They don't rot in there. Good if you can't find any antispetic.

>>17240462
You put them out for show. Like a macabre museum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240470
I did not find anon eating little girl shits or collecting Shena's vomit disturbing, but this is taking it too far even for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240436
>>17240445
>>17240462
>>17240470
Good to see that I am not the only one who collects unique corpses and puts them on display

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240497
Show me your collection

[Anonymous No.]

>somewhere out there is a house containing hundreds of Gwen's corpses

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240506
When i get to my computer, sure
I use a storage house though. I got dozens of storage houses for all the gear I horde and autisticly sort in each house.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240506
>H sister
I just looked her up lewd

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240533
Don't get your hopes up.
H is for Hitman!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240350
>the changelogs say you can get bonuses
I'll go have a look at it later

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240339
Thanks. As is I'm trying to solo to catch up with my pets but there is no chance of me surviving this hell.
I go in, cast 3-4 leveled meteors hoping to clean up at least something for AP, 1-2 creeps die then I get put into place by a little girl with 100% gauge turning me into mincemeat and I crawl back to Floor 200 at 29hp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240597
The XP gain here is just something. Finally pulling off 8-9 meteors in a row did the job of cleaning most stuff (wolves bears walruses still survive and charge me at full gauge so I have to retreat upstairs) and took me from 94 to 95 - that's just one floor. With the way everything turns super sayan down here I feel like I've not even been playing Elona before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240624
Yep - critters up there tend to give 2+ millions XP each, but for me it still goes pretty slowly, because my pets hog all the kills, there are 11 of them (pets, I mean), and when I'm alone, my crystal spear can't kill shit fast enough, and my meteor one-shots me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240470
>>17240511
I once found a small moongate room containing nothing but corpses of Lomias, dozens of cards and figurines of him, his equipment, and an altar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240350
The changelog says it'll inherit the +enhance value of the milk used as the ingredient.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17233151

So how do I defeat God?

[Anon From Vindale No.]

>>17240658
To think someone can possibly hate Lomias this much. After saving them and giving them a fantastic tutorial? How ungrateful. Guy is probably just jealous of Elea superiority or it's that little sister again thinking she's the mascot of the game when it's really me, Lomias.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240716
Punch him.

[Anonymous No.]

Is the guy still going to upload Siro's stuff to Sankaku?
Speaking of that, by now I imagined someone would already have started uploading stuff from pixiv to it, but the younger sister has been sucking cock for several months now. Maybe I'll have to do that myself.
I see someone added a wiki page for it, though.

[Anonymous No.]

How did you all spend your early game?

[Anonymous No.]

Friendly reminder that Resolution Hand exists and can help you with materials. It can even finish an enemy like Decapitation if you use a touch skill on it while it is weakened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240765
rubbing shena's ass and riding little girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240664
Alright I think I found out what I was doing wrong. Apparently the milk I had in the prior version for some reason wasn't giving me bonus on my cheese. Also, the milk has to be squeezed from the creatures on the ranch to get bonus on the milk which in turn is inherited by the cheese. Can't use the normal milk you find around the ranch as time passes to get bonus to cheese.

Seems like cheese can sell pretty well to normal vendors. Will sell for more in pet run shops then. Pretty cool that the amount of gold you can rake in from a ranch is going up. Also liking that butter makes it easier to do more damage with fire spells.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240765
I'm still early game and im just messing around improving skills, trying to catch pets, etc.

Related; would catching an Asura and giving it tonfas/leaving it unarmed for MA attacks be a stupid idea?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240805
Extra hands do not help with martial arts (despite what you may expect), so they really wouldn't be any better than anything else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240805
Don't see why it would.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240805
Problem with strong pets like Asuras is they farm AP very slowly.
It would be a lot less of a headache down the line to get a weak pet with few pre-set limbs like a baby fire dragon (so you don't go above 13 limbs and get a speed penalty) and give him extra arms if that's what you want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240822
Do they get extra attacks at least?

>>17240838
Thats with Gene Engineering right? I should work on that then

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240805
Don't tonfas limit MA attacks to 4?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240089
That's true, can't believe I didn't think of it. Thing is, I have never been a fan of civilization simulators. I liked adventure mode, but at the time there wasnt that much to do but go to place, try kill thing. Im gonna check back eventually to see if they added more to do in adventure mode and give it another shot. I loved reading the generated history of your worlds and stories from players though.

>>17240363
Have to agree with you. The wiki can be great if you know exactly what you are looking for. But if not it's a bit frustrating. Like how shift cores are basically hidden.

>>17240555
There is a secret npc sister ally you can get that is so lewd I am pretty sure it is criminal. Even by Irva standards.

>>17240771
Is that an upgraded form of sleep touch? What stats do you need for it if so?

>>17240765
I just mess around trying to gain levels, stats, and decent equipment before doing actual plot things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240893
Extra attacks from martial arts depend purely upon your skill level.
Furthermore, I believe the attacks are capped at 4 instead of 8 if they are wearing fist items like claws, instead of leaving the slot empty.

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone re-upload the /jp/ music pack since the one in the pastebin no longer works?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240978
You just have to edit the text file to make it work. You can add songs from the other packs for those that are missing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240996
I love the chinese anon music pack but the audio is kinda low compared to the game sound so It's kinda annoying, if I have to add some on my own can you recommend me some good series music like fate?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240945
Have people experimented with shift cores on pets much? Speed one looks tempting but so does omega because pets can get Gather Mana and not care about MP/HP drain, in theory at least.

[Anonymous No.]

The weapon for Ray of Gay Jay

[Anonymous No.]

>>17241036
Well, you could increase the volume with Audacity or something. As for recommendations, I remembered I have the list of sources for the songs in the /jp/ pack.

mcArena - hataraki man
mcBattle1 - Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei
mcBattle2 - Koumajou Densetsu Scarlet Symphony
mcBoss - Homeworld
mcBoss2 - Touhou Symphonic Selection
mcBoss3 - Puella Magi Madoka Magica Portable
mcBoss4 - Puella Magi Madoka Magica Portable
mcBoss5 - ComicMarket79 prize disc
mcCasino - Durarara
mcChaos - Jingai Makyou (Nitro+)
mcCoda - Fushigi no Gensokyo
mcDungeon1 - Ghost in the Shell/ GITS Innocence
mcDungeon2 - Diablo 1
mcDungeon3 - American Mcgee's Alice
mcDungeon4 - Steins;Gate
mcDungeon5 - Boogiepop Phantom
mcDungeon6 - Paranoia Agent
mcDungeon7 - Steins;Gate
mcDungeon8 - Macross Frontier
mcDungeon9 - Shingeki no Kyojin
mcDungeon10 - Ever17
mcDungeon11 - SYNC.ART'S - Requiem Re:miniscence (touhou)
mcFanfare - Hataraki Man
McFest - Drop - Touhou Baroque (touhou)
mcField1 - Fate/Extra CCC
mcField2 - Rozen Maiden Strings Sound Album
mcField3 - Rozen Maiden Piano Sound Album
mcHome - SHI - The Wind - Touhou Pianosolo Arrange Project (touhou)
mcIntro - Jingai Makyou (Nitro+)
mcJapan - Kara no Shoujo
mcLastBoss - Evangelion 2.0
mcLastBoss3 - Avenger
mcLog - Mahou SHoujo Madoka Magica
mcLonely - Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei
mcLonely2 - Bad Apple Orchestral vers.
mcLost1 - Perfect Cherry Blossom
mcLost2 - Imperishable Night
mcLost3 - Undefined Fantastic Object
mcMaid - Ever17
mcMarch1 - Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica
mcMarch2 - Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica
mcMarch3 - Gesshoku no Carnival (Nitro+)
mcMemory - Cartagra
mcMemory2 - Yahari Ore no Seishun etc.
mcOpening - SHI - The Wind - Touhou Pianosolo Arrange Project (touhou)
mcOpening2 - Ali Project - Datengoku Sensen
mcOpening3 - Angel Beats
mcPetArena - Puella Magi Madoka Magica Portable
mcPuti - Evangelion 2.0
mcRuin - Irisu Syndrome
mcSand - Homeworld
mcTown1 - Soremachi
mcTown2 - Jingai Makyou (Nitro+)
mcTown3 - Gesshoku no Carnival (Nitro+)
mcTown4 - Katakura Mikiya - Lento
mcTown5 - Steins;Gate
mcTown6 - Noir
mcTown7 - Elfen Lied
mcTown8 - Katakura Mikiya - Lento
mcTown9 - Jingai Makyou (Nitro+)
mcTown10 - Evangelion 2.0
mcTown11 - K-ON
mcUnrest - Noir
mcUnrest2 - Noir
mcUnrest3 - Noir
mcVictory - Cartagra
mcVillage1 - Fate/Hollow Ataraxia
mcWedding - Grieg - Wedding-day at Troldhaugen

You could try looking into a few of these. Personally, I think Touhou arranges could go well.

I guess I'll put this list on a pastebin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17241095
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

Wonder if the cap for resists in the void is superb everything except for magic which is normal. Only thing that varies slightly is that some resists are a little bit bigger or smaller due to racial traits. It's been this way for several hundreds of floors now.

>>17240962
>Extra attacks from martial arts depend purely upon your skill level.

Is that how it works with mutants? My character isn't a mutant and just has 2 hand slots. From what I can tell the MA skill only effects damage dice and accuracy. Even at capped skill level I can't get more than one attack. Only way I can get additional attacks is through stacking equipment that have the additional attack chance enchant. So additional attacks is dependent on gear on at least a normal character. Found this to be true for dual wielding and two hand characters. Wonder if it's different for mutants.

>>17241062
Found that at least without Custom so far you can't give your pets cores and expect them to use it. You have to hold onto the cores yourself and tag the pet with it when they meet the requisites to change. I've been using my omega to make one of my pets change into a magical girl complete with 15 minute transformation sequences.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17241095
https://pastebin.com/cVPVQDDG

[Anonymous No.]

>>17241195
So theoretically, a mutant with a lot of luck on body parts would be able to put more than 8 punches a turn?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17241195
Are you trying to make unarmed attacks with nothing in your hand slots and max MA skill?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240937
Do they? I've had those on a martial arts pet for ages.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17241346
There was an anon in the past that reported that with his mutant, with more than two hands, could not get more than 8 attacks when using martial arts. So 8 might be the cap regardless of how many hands you have. Really the mutant is quite the enigma or at least it is for me. Haven't really seen any mutants that got really far in the game myself. In theory though they can be strong.

Since some of them are fine with going over the 13 slot one can probably start stacking nefia cores that increase martial arts skill levels to up damage dice while not having to give up resists to do it. They can also equip more stuff to add to their to hit and damage bonus which are found on some gear. So in theory a mutant could be built to do more damage than a normal humanoid martial artist. Also with additional slots come more PV and DV possibilities. They'll have to keep an eye on their speed but shift cores, the speed buff spell, and a mount built to have 2000 speed along with the riding skill can help alleviate any speed problem they may have.

At any rate, the formula for additional attack chance is available on the wiki and you might want to check it out. Scroll down until you see it.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Equipment_attributes

[Anonymous No.]

>>17241358
Yes, I've had nothing in my hand slots and couldn't get past 1 attack. I've had my MA skill capped for quite awhile now and have found that additional attacks for a default humanoid is completely based around gear. Not skill. This is true for MA, Two Hands, and Dual Wielding.

>>17241368
For anyone with just two hand slots at least, Tonfas and claws will reduce your max amount of attacks to 4 assuming you have gear to make additional attacks in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17241436
Our resident Kai was getting a whopping 8 attacks per round (>>17231061). I don't think he was getting that from gear alone.
Boy I wish Elona's documentation wasn't so nonexistent.

>the multihit (passive) ability for Martial Arts requires you to be completely unarmed (no tonfas or claws) as well as a high extra melee attack attribute (around 1000+). This allows one to reliably hit up to 8 times on an enemy in one turn.
So you DO need to have some bonus attacks equipment, but once you do you will consistently shell out the extra attacks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17241466
I think you're talking to Kai himself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17241466
Hehe, I am Kai and yes I'm saying you get 8 attacks from gear. All the MA skill is doing for me is determining damage dice, accuracy, and playing a small part in damage multiplier. The skill doesn't play a role in how many attacks I make. Only gear is allowing me to make multiple attacks each round. Apologies if there is any misconception about how multiple attacks work with MA, and for that matter dual wielding, and two hand, but hopefully this sets the record straight.

Left picture is of me throwing punches at a sandbagged enemy with all my equipment unequipped. The equipment I had on had additional attack chance. So in the left picture I don't have additional attack chance and I'm just throwing one punch at a time.

The right pic shows me equipping all of my stuff and procing additional attack chance. Shows up as futhermore you punch...etc

[Anonymous No.]

>>17241506
So wait, why does the 8 attacks thing not apply to dial wielding just as much then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17241539
Dual wielding is capable of 8 attacks just like MA. Like MA, the only barrier to dishing out lots of attacks is having gear with additional attack chance. Once you have that 8 attacks becomes possible for dual wielding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17241568
So if I'm understanding it seems like the solo Playstyles are sort of this way in terms of viability.

1. MA. Slow start due to the skill needed to be good and extra attack equipment. But once the ball is rolling blows everything else out of the water.
2. Mage damage. Relies on spell stock but that is negligible after a point and you debuffs and nuke everything into oblivion.
3. Dual wield. Takes extra attack and decent weapons, but can load up damage plus procs and destroy things.
4-6. Ranged firearm, ranged archer, 2 hand. Not sure where they stand. I know 2 hand gets a damage bonus and better accuracy, but special ammo does crazy things.
Last would be Magic Device/throwing weapons since I don't think I have ever heard someone even attempt to just use those.

Am I wrong or forgot anything?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17241694
>viability
>#1 MA
The catch with MA is that it fucking sucks to get to that point. It's a game of hell.
I'd put magic as more viable just because it's significantly easier to use and you get a huge kit of utility spells too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17241701
True. Guess I was dumb to say viability when I was really thinking end game damage. Especially since everything in Elona is "viable" given a determination to grind.

[Anonymous No.]

So, help me out here. If I wanna train up some new party members (level 90 on me vs level 30-60 on them), what's the fastest/best way to do it?

The hardest part for me is the AP grind, so if anyone knows a better way than the void I really wanna hear it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17237208
When you die you regain karma if you're under a certain amount if I remember correctly, so just find a tight rope and hang yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17241694
Well I agree with the points you have to say about the various attack styles but I'm not sure how I'd rank things in terms of viability. They're all viable imo. Well almost all. I don't know about throwing yet.

I would definitely agree with the statement that MA eventually does the highest damage in the game. At least that's what I've seen with my character Kai so far and his pets.

Having said that, that doesn't mean or make any of the other combat styles less viable. I've seen dual wielding, firearm, magic, and two hand also kill the inner gods.

I would say magic is incredibly useful for solo play. You could get away without it but magic just makes the game so much easier. It provides healing, buffs, debuffs, utility, and gives you range and AOE options. A very good package rolled up in one. While I can say MA does a whole lot more damage than my spells the problem is that it can only do it on one enemy or only a handful of enemies using special actions. Casting on the otherhand can effect a lot of enemies with AOE or even the entire map with meteor. I'm pretty happy with my choice though to pair MA with casting for my character as the skills compliment each other. For bosses I can ruin their day with MA and for mobs I have spells. I can also attack at range with spells and simply melee when they get close enough.

Dual Wield is powerful for all the points you mentioned. Two hand is only capable of 4 attacks a turn however due to the fact that their weapons are usually large with big damage dice and that they get an additional damage multiplier with two hand they can still do pretty good damage.

Firearms and Bows with additional attack chance seem to be capped at 2 attacks per turn but their main power is from their special ammo. If a ranged user is not using special ammo they're not playing at their full potential. Rapid allows bow and firearm users up to 5 attacks and burst can get up to like 36 attacks in one turn. They can lay down some nice damage with special ammos but they need to eventually replenish their ammo at the blacksmith, possibly carry lots of ammo on them, or use that pot for fusion item that restores ammo in the field.

Magic Device, at least the ones that primarily play with rods, can do some nice damage if you make use of quick use since it allows you to use rods twice in one round. For them, an example of an ideal attack would be to make an opponent wet, and activate quick use to double tap lightning ball rods. They're not concerned about silence which is a good thing going for them.

Throwing can be viable but I think they need better and more throwing related weapons to get people excited about it. Maybe some good special actions too.

[Anonymous No.]

Are any of the oddball races (Slime, Metal, etc) worth playing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17241828
For the most part only as a challenge.
I'm pretty sure that for Metal you don't even get the special metal flag that makes them take reduced damage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17241694
You forgot 1-hand + shield.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17241859
It's shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17241859
I was going to list it with or under throwing. I have tried to have my defender use it since he is more a healer than fighter, but every time I have heard it mentioned in these threads it is called the worst way you can play with no real benefits.

>>17241810
Kai, ever bothered with 1 hand and shield to give an opinion?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17241888
Well, how did it go with the defender? Or didn't you even try because the thread told you not to?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17241888
I have never used it and none of my pets have ever used it. Maybe someone who does one hand and shield will come along to give some info on it. At least my initial thoughts on it is that it can't do as much damage as the other attack styles but you get more PV with a shield? I'm not sure if that's worth it. Do the special actions like shield parry help its damage out enough to make others take notice? It can maybe dim opponents at least.

>>17241734
Well you don't want to hear it but the void and awakened dungeons are the best place for AP. Both for the player and pets. Now that that's out of the way there are things you can do to build a lower powered pet to be able to do those places.

The first thing I would have your pet do is to gene engineer it levels and skills if you haven't already. Then the next thing you need to get your pet good gear. A decent amount of PV/DV but most importantly as much resist and immunities you can muster. Early on I did this by crafting armor using tailoring. I also had my blacksmith shop where I'd sell all the junk stuff I crafted for gold and trade ins. Some of those trade ins were actually pretty good so I'd equip my pets with trade ins. Also my pets would get hand me downs from my character. Any static artifact or item he wasn't using anymore would go to my pet.

Once your pet has some decent gear see if your pet can do panic or challege job board quests. These quests give lots of exp, can give AP, and are less stressful than the void and awakened dungeons. Make sure your pet delivers the final blow to get AP and exp. Ideally they'll solo these quests but if you need to tag your pet to yourself and kill the monsters. Your pet will get at least a little bit of AP hopefully.

You can try your luck with awakened and the void through tagging as well. You'll have to do all the killing and your pet will slowly get AP. Use that AP to increase your pets speed and use it on bonus points to up their damage skills. As you level up your pet and your pet's damage skills rise they'll be able to eventually hang out in the void with you without tagging.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17241890
I only just made it out of act 1 with him being only like level 30, so I can't give you any say on how it compares to end game. I had him wield a lightened Holy Rance and an artifact shield I found.

For what it's worth, out of the 4 pets I had he was the tankiest and he managed to keep up in gathering exp from killing mobs. He survived all the chaos fort bosses I faced and a couple of the level 100 S. Tyris quest bosses.
That said I did give him a custom ai routine and that spell that boosts pv or dv.

[Anonymous No.]

Does the forced sleep thing only work with pets? I kinda want to summon Ehekatl and do some fun stuff with her. Also if I force sleep Ehekatl will she get angry and kill me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17241888
>>17241955
If you're a pet master or necromancer and don't need to deal damage, using a shield is probably a good idea.

[Anonymous No.]

Guys help I've been playing non-stop for like 3 days now. My sleeping schedule is fucked, I haven't showered in a week, and my 3DPD girlfriend is mad at me for sleeping all the time instead of giving her attention.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17242080
Keep going.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17242049
Don't worry she'll like it.
Don't summon Kumiromi at the same time tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>17237749
oh. I ran into the mad scientist earlier and he dropped a living dagger but I NPC'd it along with his figure and card.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17242098
Why not? I kinda want to eventually convert to Kumiromi. Will he not take me in later?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17242056
Or if you use ranged weapons. Maybe even dual-wield shields.

[Anonymous No.]

Just kinda wondering, does luck (e.g. lucky dream, luck stat, etc) influence your chances of learning the more rarer spells while reading wonder scrolls?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17242080
>and my 3DPD girlfriend is mad at me for sleeping all the time instead of giving her attention.
>Outright calling her a 3DPD on a mongolian cheese battling website
Why are you in the relationship in the first place?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17242107
Cucking the god of life and death in front of him is not the brightest idea out there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17242080
Gonna warn you right now, if you entertain the idea of playing the game for a long time I wouldn't go full bore. You'll burn out that way.
The game is too much to just power through in one go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17242117
To feed my super-ego but mainly because having someone else jack you off feels much better and more satisfying.

[Anonymous No.]

What the fug man these wizards of Elea keep spamming spells on me that make my hp to 0 and then I died and dropped a bunch of loot including my paper Happy Bed and when I went back to find it it was gone but the other stuff was still there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17242165
Wonder if the bed burned up or crumbled due to fire or ice spells.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17242185
good thing I have a spare

[Anonymous No.]

What do I do with this? I had been training two-hand and axe but I'm only 3 days into the game so. Is it cursed and can I get rid of those negative attributes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17242268
>blessed
Not cursed. You can never get rid of negative attributes.
It's nothing special sadly. Save it and slap it into your eventual equipment shop and it might get rerolled into something better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17242292
danke

and I already have the equipment shop :^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>17242268
It's not cursed but it does come with bad things. Can't get rid of them either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17242268
It might have some negatives on it, but a malus to medium armor doesn't matter at all and negative evasion that small won't bother you unless you're playing a dodge tank.

Maybe throw it on your ranged slot to get the crit rate untill you get something better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240184

You can use them as an ingredient in the mix feed recipe now. "Books" in that recipe means drops from creatures including statues and cards.

>>17240765

I ran around doing all the board quests I could manage until I was able to pick up all the skills and hoard platinum for training, and gathered some decent enough equipment along the way from stealing/trading with adventurers, quest rewards, treasure maps, etc. I'm possibly still in the early game depending on how you define it as I'm not even level 30 yet and only just set foot in Lesimas the other day.

[Anonymous No.]

Worship a god, they said. It's so fulfilling, they said. I haven't had a proper rest in ages with this weirdo bothering my dreams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17242416
That's why you worship Eyth. He never bothers you

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking damn it! You fucking peed in my eyes Siva! Bad Dog!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17242298
>>17242302
thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17242416
Who doesn't want to chill with Opatos in their dreams?

[Anonymous No.]

Where's the black market guy at my peeps? How should I go about investing in him and my choice magic store as well as the skill itself. Also thinking of training negotiation as well and I'm wondering if training these will give me Charisma.

>An easy way to increase investing is to hire/fire cheap shopkeepers at your house and invest in them till shopkeeper rank 30-40. If you can't hire shopkeepers at your house, Food shop seems to be the cheapest to invest in.
What did they mean by this? I'm almost level 20 so I plan to buy a Juere Swordsman and use him as shopkeeper, possibly using Bronze Coins.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17242720
Black market is in Derphy, but I'd just get one in your home. Characters for hire change every few days.

Both will give you charisma, negotiation will train passively as you buy and sell, investing (of both you and your pets, who also help lower the cost) will train quite fast as you invest. I advise against hiring and firing shopkeepers, just invest in different shopkeepers around the towns.

In my experience it doesn't matter who you hire as a shopkeep because their CHA/Neg rise very quickly as long as you keep dropping by and training them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17242742
danke. What do you mean by get a black markey guy in my house? I've never tried hiring a NPC and can't find the page on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17242808
Using the house board, you can hire NPCs to work at your house. That's also what the line you quoted referred to. The shops in your house are handy because you can teleport home with return at any time, you can get multiple of the same type, and they are transferred when you get a new home too. Multiple of the same shopkeep can be hired if you hire the first one, change their name, then hire them again.

The food shop that the quote said was easy to invest in means the inns in towns, which have the lowest cost. But I'd rather invest in something actually useful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17242856
Got it. Found the pages on links under House Board on the wiki as well. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.]

Could you guys compare these two for me? I'd assume the godly on the right is far superior but is DV worth going for at all?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17242944
Both aren't great but you can wear first on world map if you haven't found boots of travel yet.
Second has fire resist which is nice but it's also among the easiest resists to get. I'd stash it away in case I'm desperate for fire resist but can't sacrifice other equip slots.
Generally +skill/attribute is shit because it slows down your natural training. Unless it's something like +crafting or +harvesting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243011
Thanks, turns out the fire res will be useful for the Tower of Fire dungeon too when I get to it.

pic related what's the deal with all these dead-end dungeons? spamming space didn't seem to help and I didn't find a boss. Mining the ground said something like I was disturbing something's sleep but it went away. I don't have a pick or rod of create door.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243028
"s"earch a few times whenever you get to a dead end.
The walls have secret passages.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243036
Space works just as well. Just hold it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243036
>>17243043
I'll try again thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

I had a bottle of cure corruption but I think it died during combat like the paper happy bed earlier.

Well now I buy up acidproof and fireproof potions whenever I see them and leave stuff at house. I'll carry some blankets too from now on.

;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243141
Don't forget to pick up a Magatama for yourself and any pets that like to use fire attacks

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243148
I was wondering what those were, thanks. Not only that I've left behind a couple duel gloves and only a few NPCs monopolize my business.

[Anonymous No.]

???

So how do I ask him if he's the werewolf? I don't think he's a werewolf detective.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a secret to making shops really profitable that I'm unaware of? I have fairly trained shopkeep on a shop with a rank in the single digits and I'm running two ranches and a farm only to produce product, plus selling pretty much every piece of equipment I can find. My cooking is also good enough to reliably make stakes.

Even with all of this I'm lucky if I make around a million a month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243315
1.69?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243365

1.68.1

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243315
Aren't there new AP feats that increase their efficiency as shopkeep?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243412
Nevermind, ignore >>17243413
Specialized shops sell their stock faster, and your shopkeep will keep improving is all I can say.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243315

My food shop was pulling down 100-200k a night as soon as I opened it, with a fresh Juere swordman shopkeeper and a rank starting at I think around 72. A million a month seems absurdly low even if you're leaving it as a general shop. But you need to provide more information to properly diagnose the problem. How many customers are you getting? How many sales are you making? Is the shop bogged down with tons of trash that sells for very little? 1.68 or 1.69?

In any case I'd strongly recommend setting it to a specialized food shop if you haven't already. If you don't want to waste pet slots on multiple shops just switch specialties around as needed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17242154
I second this one
I first started Elona at 1.55, then repeatedly played for a few months, then stopped for a few more while updating versions all the way to this day and I still have far too many things left to do although I use the exact same class/race every time. I'm a sucker for Warmages/Battlemages in most games I see them in

[Anonymous No.]

If an artifact is generated, but you miss it, do you ever have a chance of finding it again?
Barring static dungeons like Lesimas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243467
You can get lost unique artifacts from the strange scientist for little sisters. Randomly generated artifacts are gone forever if lost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243464
>although I use the exact same class/race every time
You too eh?
It's really hard to give up dim immunity once you've tasted it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243472
I mean say that a unique artifact (say Twin Edge) is generated, but you fail to pick it up.

[Anonymous No.]

Ohayou /jp/. How the fug do I read this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243467
Monsters can generate multiple of the same artifact. If you've identified it before, you can get a duplicate via the quest. If you lost it and didn't get a chance to ID it beforehand (e.g. it was generated but you didn't notice), you'll have to kill the monster again until it drops it again. If it was a one-time artifact such as from a quest or boss, you're out of luck if you didn't ID it first.

[Anonymous No.]

Did Thick Anon's pack get removed? Link seems to be dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243487
>If it was a one-time artifact such as from a quest or boss, you're out of luck if you didn't ID it first.
I kinda figured that. And yeah, I should have figured the re-generation out from the multiple Unknown Shells.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243484
forgot pic lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243011
>because it slows down your natural training.
Does that mean the -skill/attributes helps you train?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243517
North west of Palmia

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243523
I don't believe they directly help by reducing exp requirements, but sometimes reducing it can help for other reasons.
Like the one god item that gives -1300 to speed is amazing for certain uses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243529
Well that made my day.

What does it say?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243560
Whoops, i'm dumb. forgot the world map had that circle. Your treasure is at the X mark; you'll have to dig on your tile while on the world map.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243585
oh shit I'm blind I've been up playing nonstop for 4 days now thanks. now that I can see how the landmarks work I can do them myself now on thanks bud!

and I got like 5 small medals out of it plus heart warming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243517
Those graphics are outdated, use the new ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243484
>>17243517
Just compare it to the map. You see that there's a one-peak mountain, with one tile south and four/five tiles east of it one forest with three trees. There's nothing in between the two. On the right edge you can see grass, as well. There can't be many places like that on the map, even though on cursory glance the snowy area all looks the same - so you'll definitely be able to find it if you look closely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243764
Oh shit he already found it. Just see this post as general treasure map advice or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243315
1.68 specialist stores are broken good aka selling trash for millions every day good, and general store is shit, like really really shit.
Turn all you stores into specialist ones (blacksmith, food, magic are all good and I haven't tried potions, though I'd stay away from magic because it's open to all kinds of silly abuse that got slammed in 1.69) and keep one as general store or close it altogether, the profit you get there is laughable in comparison (like 10 times less) and may not even be worthy of a pet slot..

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243834
Still worth it for equipment, no?
Due to rerolls and bypassing the player equipment sale penalty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243560
お兄ちゃんお兄ちゃんお兄ちゃんお兄ちゃんお兄ちゃんお兄ちゃんお兄ちゃんお兄ちゃんお兄ちゃんお兄ちゃんお兄ちゃんお兄ちゃんお兄ちゃんお兄ちゃんお兄ちゃんお兄ちゃんお兄ちゃんお兄ちゃんお兄ちゃんお兄ちゃんお兄ちゃんお兄ちゃんお兄ちゃん

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243922
translate it weebs

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243920
Valuable rerolls are weapons (spec. blacksmith) and seeds (spec. food), containers aren't worth it and I can't think of anything else.
The profit margin from selling at your own store compared to normal vendor doesn't matter because the profit is tiny relative to the millions you'll be earning from specialist stores, while you're giving away a pet slot which could be used for running another specialist store if it's money that you want, or an extra little sister space or w/e that will probably give more value.
I've been running a general store for months now myself and considering closing it now or respeccing just for how gimped it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243943
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[Anonymous No.]

>>17243834
I don't see what's "abusive" about making 5 millions per day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243943
いじめっちゃだめぇ！

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243943
Have some shame.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a skill or item that allows me to summon all my pets to my side when they're scattered across the map? Aside from using leashes or call familiar. In Nethack, a magic whistle teleports all pets on the level next to you when blown.

[Anonymous No.]

What happens if you kill too many villagers? I have plenty of karma and the wet dream wizard gave me Shining Wave skill which does like 3000 while my melee does 200 so I'm about to kill all the villagers that have good loot.

I'm thinking of targetting <unique> NPCs for their figures/cards and checking whomever I can trade with for their gear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17244071
A good one to target is <He who dwells in vanity>, in Vernis.
He have a great sword which will carry you through the game.

Don't forget to attack him in melee, he's very strong at range!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17244050
Yes. Pump your Charisma to open up all kinds of pet skills from summoning to your side to giving them a hug or a squeeze . Ditto necromancy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17244099
Will do, I'm killing the guild masters and guards as well. Already halfway there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17244105
My Cha is 114, when am I getting the ''teleport party next to you so they don't wander off and get themselves killed'' skill? Again not talking about summon familiar, with that if they're already with you you'd have to send them to wait in town and summon them one by one first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17244172
Oh. If that's what you want use a leash.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17244195
There's really not many options, huh?
>>17244050
>Aside from using leashes

[Anonymous No.]

Guess I should save this for if I ever make a wizard?

[Anonymous No.]

Is it worth putting non-named figures and cards in your museum? What about named cards?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17244264
No, yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>17244269
Thanks, thanks. How about named duplicates or for the sake of filling up the empty room? From what I read more stuff means more rank and more rank means more money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17244280
Duplicates seem to give significantly less rank than the first one, so you want variety. But they still give rank and the only other things you can do with statues and cards are putting the cards in your deck for the witch, and using the statues in fusion/necro recipes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17244291
ありがとう

[Anonymous No.]

Just so you know, Custom for 1.69 is out.

[Anonymous No.]

XD

[Anonymous No.]

>>17244340
>XD
Stop that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17244050

There's that group shadowstep thing you get at 100 Tactics but that's all I can think of.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17244210
Alternatively make them a custom AI so they constantly try to stay next to you.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>17240313
sounds like you are getting paralyzed by nerve dart, then instagibbed because you can't move
look for equipment with immunity to paralysis, also blind (if ranged or caster) and confusion (if melee or caster)

[Anonymous No.]

>>17244517
Blind is the fucking worst by the way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17244328
Newbie here, what's the difference?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17244669
Main plot is enablend and translated for the English version.
Pets can be given custom AI routines and taught any spell/action the player knows well (I think)
Many tweaks to make life a bit easier.

[Anonymous No.]

Is piety favor? And if so how much do I need until I can start farming blessed waters?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17244680
piety is your faith skill
you drop water on an altar to bless it, it doesn't cost anything

[Anonymous No.]

Have people who use custom AI tried teaching their pets Contingency? Does it work?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17244680

>Is piety favor?

Yes, when you use the nine god sign it's showing your favor.

Blessing water is completely unrelated to favor. You just drop regular bottles of water on an altar of your god (or an unclaimed altar if you're with Eyth) to bless them.

[Anonymous No.]

Changing shop type to blacksmith was the best decision I ever made

[Anonymous No.]

>>17241421
I think I may be the anon you're referring to. It wasn't a proper character, but he was haxxed with a 3rd arm and capped stats, skills and additional attack chance. No tonfas, he only got up to 8 attacks. With one tonfa, no more than 4. It seems you're stuck with the regular limitations no matter the race or number of body parts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17244868
And by arm, I meant hand slot. Important typo there :/

[Anonymous No.]

I evolved my harpy into a Flare Chick with Another Heart. It got super regen (!?). Apparently there's also another evolution into Phoenixician with a Magic Heart. These aren't on the pet evolution page, but were in the changelog for E+1.52 (two years ago).

[Anonymous No.]

Can you make more than one shop in the map?
I don't want it to end up like the house where the old one is gone forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17244993
As many as you want. But remember you need a shopkeep which takes up a pet slot, and the cap for pets is 15 at 70 charisma.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245008
Nice, time to make a blacksmith.

[Anonymous No.]

Is anyone running potions or magic stores in 1.69? Worth it?

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like I'm earning a lot more in 1.69 than ever before, not sure if it's a bug or what since the patch was meant to nerf shops but I'm liking it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245044
I think it's because
>Equipment used to have an additional 1/3 multiplier, but that has been abolished.
so, if I read it right, equipment sells for 3 times as much gold as it was before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17244702
>>17244812
I see thanks. I dropped water on the altar in Palmia though and nothing happened. Can I convert that altar and if so how?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245076
(O)ffer something nice on the altar, and if the item is nice enough, your god will claim it for themselves and will be able to bless your water.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245061
Do you pick good equipment or only great and above?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245112
I pick all equipment, then if I feel like it and can spare scrolls, I change material of expensive items (vindale cloaks, speed\aurora rings, feathers, etc.) to superior one so they would net more gold.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245061
Well it seems more like equipment is now the only thing selling for close to pre-nerf prices
>shop items sell for up to their item value times shop type bonus
>except equipment which gets a 1/3 penalty
>now equipment sells for up to 1/3 their value with no extra penalty, plus a 20% bonus
So a little worse than before but now probably the best shop since the player still gets a heavy equipment selling penalty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245076
It has to be your god, if you just drop it on an altar that you don't worship it won't get blessed. Unless you still worship Eyth, since then every altar can bless it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245166
IIRC items sold for half of their value, tops, plus bonuses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245188
That makes it even better for equipment, no?

[Anonymous No.]

After not getting a lucky day for half an in-game year and finally getting one, I started getting them more frequently. But now I've gotten a lucky day three days in a row. All my materials are already used up, yen coins gone, casino chips spent, but they just keep coming. Help

[Anonymous No.]

>>17243834
>>17243427

I have a specialized shop that I rotate between armor when I sell the crap I hoard dungeoneering, magic where I sell the rods and books and food when I sell the food that actually makes cash. Problem is food production on the ranches is pretty slow, only get enough to sell twice or so per month. I run a ranch with a winged snail and another with a flying frog. They both have above average breeding power too.

Magic items and equipment seem to sell for pennies. Maybe I just get too much garbage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245248
Got any treasure maps?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245268
OH SHIT WHAT HAVE I BEEN DOING, I WASTED SO MUCH TIME

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245166
From what I've seen running four shops pre- and post-patch:
1) blacksmith - profits tripled (!) from 500k-1m to a scale of several millions a day.
2) general store - complete shit, no change here
3) magic store - 60k-70k scale from 500k a day, it's shit now
4) food store - can't comment really because my last batches were full of rotten food that probably made it a lot worse than it should be

One thing to take out from here is blacksmith stores are incredible now, probably making all others obsolete except for roleplaying reasons. Need someone to comment on food and potion stores though.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the quickest way for a newbie to rise bet affection to get married and get a child?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245280
Give the pet food mixed with love potion, give token of friendship, some engagement jewelry

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245248
Lucky "days" are really easy to trigger with blessed food, which is p. much always at hand with how herbing herbs work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245280
Take your pet of choice and let them murder everything in the Puppy Cave.
Repeat until they hit Soul Mate.
You can also give them food that has love potion mixed into it, but that is a bit unethical.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245290
food based luck is only +77 the lucky day event is +777.
The actual lucky day will give significantly better results.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245290

Good induced lucky days give +100, actual lucky days give +777.

>>17245277
I might just make the swap to 1.69 and forgeg the food shop. Too hard to keep it supplied.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245290
Food lucky days are MUCH less lucky than dream lucky days.
+100 luck vs +777 luck

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245290
The lucky day dream gives 777 luck, food gives 100. Big difference. How many times do you need to be corrected?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245289
>>17245295
How much does it take to rise it by going to the puppy cave?
I'd rather avoid having to use a love potion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245309
Every time they kill an enemy they have a chance of gaining one point of relationship. I'm pretty sure it's signified by the heart that shows up over their head after they kill something.
Soul mate will take a while of killing, but it's good training anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245309
It rises at a decent rate, but you might be stuck in there for a while. As soon as you hit friend level you can use a pot of fusion to make a couple friendship tokens with empty material boxes and small medals, which will get you up to fellow and above real fast.

[Anonymous No.]

I got a Mad Scientist, what should I do with it? I'm a level 6 Pianist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245358
He's a mage that can't cast spells. So kinda useless...

[Anonymous No.]

What's the most FUN class?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245365
Can't cast, or just doesn't have any? Couldn't I teach him one? I also have Custom, so I can mess with custom AI.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245368
Snail

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245358
Marry him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245358
>>17245365
I read in some other thread that he could go nuts with rods but I've never tested it.

>>17245371
He doesn't have any spells.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245377
FUN as in, FUN even when you have to grind not FUN as in pure hell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245320
>>17245322
Thanks, I was already like 28 and same for my pet
so it didn't take long.
I wanted to start over with a new character since I know more how to play the game now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245391
Probably necromancer?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17244941

add it to the wiki

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245371
Of course you could. I mean, he's one of those rare NPC bros/sises who actually joins you without pokeball fuckery, mind control or slavery.
Give him a Rail Gun for rping a Dr. Freeman and teach him all the fun spells and you're set.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245415
Beating them senseless until they join you is at least on par with monster balls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245399
Necromancy is serious business.
It's also some serious grinding if you want it to stay relevant as more than just pure meat to distract a super sayan Shiva or Yerleswood.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245427
At least it's their own free will.
Pokeballs is some weird shit, man. How does that even work on a metaphysical level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245268
If this kind anon didn't remind me, I would not have gotten this little gem

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245441
Shid, that's pretty good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245184
Pretty sure you can only get water blessed by Eyth from unclaimed altars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17245368
Class doesn't really matter except very early game. Just gives you a bit of a head start on what YOU like doing.
Like only hitting things? Warrior. Like only magic blasting things? Wizard.

Heck I've been having fun playing a (not snail) tourist.

[Anonymous No.]

I checked the price for investing in a shop, and the price for 50 ranks was ~440,000 gold. I exited out of the menu without paying and walked around a little, came back with all my pets on-screen and checked again: it was 360,000 gold. That's a huge difference, I had no idea just having your pets (with investing skill) nearby cut costs this much.

[Anonymous No.]

How many of you guys have tried the flash spinoff Elona Shooter? I picked up the game because of it to be honest.

http://www.kongregate.com/games/noanoa/elona-shooter

[Anonymous No.]

I'm starting with a polearm warrior, what should I focus on training?
Tactics or shield?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17246078
Tactics. Also might want to drop shield unless you are determined to see how it works for yourself, since pretty much no one in these threads has bothered to take melee shield play very far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17246091
Any examples how my build should look like?

[Anonymous No.]

What ever random crap i can find and cook up goes into the shop

[Anonymous No.]

>>17246078
Shield can give you massive bonuses to PV later on, but you'll have the worst damage output without dual wield or two-hand bonuses.

Keep in mind though that PV won't help you much against magic, crits and gauge attacks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17246206
It still makes a difference, just not as much.
The real question is does PV affect water damage?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17246219
No. Water damage is magic, and thus, PV has no effect on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17246241
Fug
I oughta give my fox brother Water Bolt.

[Anonymous No.]

If I pump up a foxbrother's alchemy with bonus points can he learn resolution hand?

Also anyone find this mysterious Silver Foxbrother yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17246292
Pets do not learn special actions with skill levels, unlike the player.

Elona Custom changes this, though.
>"Teach an ability" allows you to have your pet begin to learn an ability. The conditions are: 1) You must know the ability. 2) Your pet's primary attribute for that ability must be at least 2x the stamina requirement for the ability.
Then they have to attempt to use it like 4500 times to fully learn it. It's not easy, but it's a hell of a lot better than nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17246292
Oh, you need to read the <Insane Book> and then make a wish for "secretchar".

[Anonymous No.]

I didn't even know this could happen.

[Anonymous No.]

Worth it? It's around 1.1M, aka all of my money.

I'm mostly interested in the rather big speed boost for a piece of chest armor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17246366
No.
Nooooo.
No no no no no.

No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17246366
Not worth it in the slightest, 10 speed is nothing. Better use the 1.1M to invest, get deeds, train your shopkeeper, or just give it to your pets with evochat. I'd only buy an artifact with say, 2 superb resists at the black market for that price.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17246366
The other anon is right, there's no way this chest piece is worth one million gold.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it worth it to buy stuff for vendors only to resell it on my store? Either equipment, expensive potions or even food. I find it very hard to keep it stocked and if I try to, I waste all of my time hunting for stuff to sell and don't actually get anything else done.

>>17246387
>>17246401

Ok then, is there a point where I should stop investing? My magic vendor and black marketeer are both above rank 200.

While I'm at it, I'm going to post a couple more screenshots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17246421
I would recommend that you get a second magic vendor before pumping the first one up any more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17246421
>Is it worth it to buy stuff for vendors only to resell it on my store?
Not anymore.

>Ok then, is there a point where I should stop investing?
For black market you should stop at rank 4000, for magic vendor 200 should be enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17246433

Anything else to do with the money? I could give it to my pets but they're way stronger than me and I kind of don't want to encourage them further.

>>17246453
That's a lot of ranks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17246463
Souvenir vendor at higher rank sells material kits for your godly equipment, scrolls of growth, evolution hearts, gifts, recipes. Also might want to get a general vendor high rank to get repair kits. Get every single piece of equipment you and your pets are wearing to +10.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17246475
The ones in noyel?

Can I hire one at home? Never seen one on the options list so far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17246485

Whoops forgot my screenshot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17246485
No, but there is also one in Larna which you can teleport to with return.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17246485
No, the one in larna.

You can't hire souvenir vendors, and they're not really worth hiring either way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17246492
>>17246494

I'm guessing Larna is South Tyris? Haven't even started with the plot and I've actually never made it that far before.

OK, so hire another magic vendor, take her to 200. Raise black market dude to 4000-ish, forge stuff to +10, eventually bother to do the story. Anything else?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17246502
Larna is in North Tyris, it's reached via the mountain pass to the southwest of the graveyard next to lumiest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17246502
It's in North Tyris, it's just well hidden.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17246506
>>17246505
Oh.

Last question then. Any foolproof way to train performance? It trains so much slower than any other skill even with the protips on the wiki about the little girl's house. I'm at rank 32 and with my own grand piano I can't reliably finish *** party time quests so I must be doing something wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17241876
not for a gunner with a few rods
>>17242080
reassess your priorities, eat at regular hours and expose yourself to sunlight to fix your sleep schedule

[Anonymous No.]

>>17246528
At 30 performer you get ensemble (W)ide skill on next levelup, it's smooth sailing from there. I just hit 30 a little while ago and suddenly I'm at 50

[Anonymous No.]

>>17246539

Ok, thanks for the answers.

[Anonymous No.]

>burn though over 1100 blessed wonder scrolls
>'wish' only appeared once
The RNG goddess truly is the cruelest of all.

[Anonymous No.]

>unburdened for the first time in moths

[Anonymous No.]

>>17246712
>started new character
>got the wish spell in my first dream
The spell won't work anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17241955
I've got good gear for my pets, I'm at level 90 so I just raided my treasure room for some stuff and gave it to them.
They do fine in the void and get AP, it's just kinda boring watching them kill while I watch so I was wondering if anyone else had a better way.
Is it worth it to gene engineer them though? Natural leveling would take fucking eons but if it's gonna cripple them in terms of attributes I might do it. I can make up with herbs I guess but man FUCK gathering herb seeds.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it safe to turn in a bunch of suitcases at once now or not? "This was reverted in early versions of Elona+" is unclear as to whether it was put back or not. I went though all the E+ changelogs, but couldn't find anything about the karma penalty being reinstated, or being removed for that matter. There's also no information anywhere as to how frequently you're allowed to turn in suitcases/wallets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17246780
Up to you with what you want to do about their levels. You're just exchanging one kind of work for another is how I see it. You easily level up your pets through gene engineering but pay the price by putting in the work to get herbs and feed them to your pets. Or you do a lot of work in meticulously tracking down specific monsters in dungeons to level up your pets as slowly as possible to get the most attribute gains through gene engineering. Either way, you're putting in work and doing the time.

I've always leveled up my pets through gene engineering paying no mind to min maxing their attributes through slow slowly leveling them up. I was in and out of the slave trader's wares as fast as I could to get them started on farming AP and their diet.

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>>17246138
Guess going godless makes you go a hell of a lot slower in gains or something.

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>>17246800
From my experience with 1.65 it is indeed still a problem. When I was still on that turning them in too quickly will give you the karma penalty.

So stocking up on wallets and suitcases for when you are really low on karma is not the way to go.

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Hot damn protect from mutation sure is useful. I can really take advantage of evolution pots and not have to deal with dream mutation bullshit. Though I know wiki says it's only an 80% protection rate.

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>>17246800
Can return 1 for every month that has passed since the game began. So after one year you can return 12 at once, then you have to wait another month for the next one. So yes, stocking up on lost items for regaining karma is an option.

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>>17233151
Updated pastebins. I heard MEGA hasn't been very reliable; which file hoster should the paste recommend other than MF?

>>17235871
It's in the paste. There was a server change but the new forum still has the thread.

>>17243512
He updated the link, also he's now the collage guy.

>>17245917
Can't believe it was never in any of the pastebins.

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Does worn equipment weight light/medium/heavy affect speed or have any negative affects besides training that skill exclusively? What's the drawback of wearing all heavy for PV stacking past less carrying capacity?

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>>17247178
There are three abilities tied to armor class you get after beating act 1 and they're all good depending on your playstyle.
Heavier armor classes fuck over your cast rate however so it's usually best to just flying scroll everything into light armor.

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>>17245273
Dig, DIG!!!

>>17246328
I sell those since afaik it doesn't change the power of the potion and even if it did I can't have negative ether corruption

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>>17247184
At the moment I'm only interested in warrior since I'm on my first character. But I've been giving my rogue archers medium armor and shotguns.

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>>17247184
With the warmage class you can knock your spell fail rate in medium armor down to 3%.
Which is useful because the medium armor special action boosts magic power.

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How do you expand the museum? Just dig your way around or buy a house board and put it inside?

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Any suggestions on how to equip a golden bell pet? Wiki says a machine gun and I'm thinking stacked DV gear since max 15hp and 700 speed

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>You drew water from the well into the empty bottle. You get a bottle of hermes blood.

Insane.

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>>17247321
Grab your house board, design museum, return house board