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[Anonymous No.]

Kosuzu sure looks weird now.

[Anonymous No.]

Youkaisuzu looks great.

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>>17074604
That she does.

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Makes me think Bad Batter.

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If ZUN actually kills Kosuzu for real then he'll earn my eternal respect and become the most based person ever

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>>17074663
Ahahahaha, he won't.

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>>17074663
He never will. She's a cute girl.

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implying this is even kosuzu, which it isn't

[Anonymous No.]

If this is her, killing her isn't the only way. I doubt she dies. It would go against Touhou's tone.

If she's under possession it could be argued she didn't choose this.
If she can still be saved it wouldn't violate Reimu's ethics or obligation unlike with Salt Merchant or Fortune Teller. And she has a soft spot for Kosuzu, so she would try everything possible to save her first.

Doesn't mean it's meaningless either. Maybe she comes out of it a bit less human, closer to the middle...befitting what FS is about.
And maybe comes out of it with new ability and hardiness, making her less susceptible to youkai influence, and going though this was the only way she/Suzunaan can remain alongside youma books.

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>>17074663
We can only hope.

>>17075045
>It would go against Touhou's tone.
I mean, FS has been a fair bit darker than most Touhou stuff, so the series ending in the main character's death at Reimu's hands wouldn't be too far out there. Plus, it kind of fits with the overall themes that the FS manga has been touching upon.

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>>17074582
>もろとも
Hmm? So that's Kosuzu + another youkai, I guess?
This means Kosuzu can be saved.

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Be honest with me, /jp/, if you had the power, would you greenlight Kosuzu be killed?

I would, then would occasionally jerk off to the extermination page.

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>>17075326
I'd have her killed Light-style.

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I want to make babies with youkai suzy

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>>17075326
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

touhou is going full tokyo ghoul

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>>17075438
Wiping away that attitude of hers would be delightful.

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Kosuzu will die and just return as a ghost.

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>>17074663
>based
On what?

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>>17074663
go back to whatever idiotic board you came from

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Reimu will just purify Kosuzu, saving her friend who acts as the liason for different youkai into the village to maintain the balance of power, and making it so Mamizou never gets her hands on the powerful youma book

Yukari always wins

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>>17076545
/jp/?

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>>17076575
no one on this board says something as dumb as "become the most based person ever". maybe /v/ touhou threads are more your speed.

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>>17076596
>no one on this board
you sure about that?
>>/jp/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=%22most+based%22

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>>17076603
Idolshit generals don't count

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>>17076609
disregarding the fact that they do, the results aren't only from idol threads.

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>>17076613
I'd be surprised if the people that post in them post on other /jp/ threads or even look at the catalog.

And yeah, not all results are but it's still a big majority.

This discussion is dumb, I'm not even the guy that called you out for saying "most based"

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>>17076645
>it's still a big majority.
not really.

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>>17076657
Just on the first page of results it's this very conversation, (duh), some posts from the monster girl threads (which are just as shit as idol), one post about a Touhou doujin, one post from the Gust thread and then everything else is idol related.

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>>17076673
>first page
most of the results are from monster girl threads if you don't limit yourself to that.

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>>17076613
>disregarding the fact that they do
they really don't.

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>>17076682
they do whether you like it or not.

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>>17075326
Yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

>saying nigger when black people are around isn't allowed
I understand /jp/ is super xenophobic but damn dudes, take it easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>My heart and actions are utterly unclouded. They are all those of Justice.

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I hope she dies just so that something meaningful actually happened in the end.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm not sure why Yukari would tell her she wants to save her and then intentionally lead her to death

It might just be the scroll acting on its own feeding off all the energy, memories, and feelings Kosuzu has given it

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>>17076878
Or Yukari tricked her like she usually does with everyone else.

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>>17076810
Whats her name again?

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DIE KOSUZU

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>>17076932
SUGIMA!??????????????

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>>17076947
Marisa fucking died AGAIN?

I can't take this suspense guys

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>>17075326
Of course.

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What's with all the Kosuzu hate here?
The only person I wish would die is the tanuki hag because this is her fault.

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>>17076947
Where can I read this?

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>>17076921
Crimson slayer.

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>>17076971
Because then she'll be a special character

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>>17076971
What kind of fag can hate Suzu?

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>>17076971
I just don't want to see Reimu become a hypocrite, or for some asspull to wind up saving Kosuzu.
Also she hurt my waifu and is an unstable, dangerous individual who is constantly causing trouble in the human village through her careless actions and collection of books that really shouldn't be kept in the human village in the first place, so fuck her.

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>>17076991
>I just don't want to see Reimu become a hypocrite
Oh you mean like her saying that she's anti-youkai only to get along with them?

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>>17076992
Oh shit, Reimu is really pissed.

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I haven't read this shit in forever. Is it really happening?

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>>17077005
Seems more like ''oh so that's why you did it again you goddamn trickster hag''. She looked way angrier when she asks Mamizou if she's the culprit.

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>>17077005
She just looks flustered to me, but I'm not very good at reading expressions.

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>>17077010
No, it's all just a ruse to get people to actually buy the newest issue.

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>>17077000
Nah, that's fine. Reimu is clearly a girl that doesn't actually care if you're human or youkai, and personally treats everyone the same. That's explicitely stated multiple times, and only a dumb weeb wouldn't be able to pick up on it.

No, I'm worried that she'll put Kosuzu above her job, which is something that just feels incredibly out of character for Reimu, someone who puts aside her own morals and personal opinions in order to do her job to the best of her ability. That's why she claims to be anti-youkai, yet gets along with them, and that's why her sparing Kosuzu when she didn't spare a moment for beings like the Fortune Teller would actually make her a hypocrite. Suddenly she's placing people she knows above her positions, which would kind of make her a shitty guardian of Gensokyo.

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>>17077031
Tanuki pls go

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>>17077029
>and personally treats everyone the same.
what is this bullshit I'm reading.

She cares about Kosuzu more than anyone else. She obviously cares more about humans than youkai whom she has no issues beating up and stealing their posessions like Tojiko's book.

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>>17076992
What is the hag saying?

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>>17077043
Just a prank bro

[Anonymous No.]

What's Yukari's endgame again?

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>>17076992
Stupid gap hag. I'm pretty sure she's the one who stopped the murder as seen here >>17076932

Fucking killjoy

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>>17077047
No one knows, not even ZUN.

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>>17077029
She's already a hypocrite by telling Marisa that tengu don't lie only for her to say tengu aren't to be trusted later on.

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>>17077039
She allows youkai to hang out at her shrine all the time, to the point where people believe it to be a youkai shrine.

And she just kind of assumed that Tojiko was up to no good. Kind of hasty on her part, but she's kind of a hasty individual when it comes to making judgments on others.

>She cares about Kosuzu more than anyone else.
Now that's just some fucking horseshit.

>>17077058
Not lying =/= To be trusted.
Oni are truthful as fuck, but I wouldn't trust one of them either, considering that they kidnap humans in their free time.

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>>17077039
>She cares about Kosuzu more than anyone else
You misspelled Marisa.

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>>17077056
Has Yukari become self-aware of her existence?

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>>17077072
>She allows youkai to hang out at her shrine all the time, to the point where people believe it to be a youkai shrine.
She doesn't like it, like in the fairies manga where she gets explosively angry when youkai fill up her shrine at new years.
>And she just kind of assumed that Tojiko was up to no good.
She stole her book so she could pay back her tab with Rinnosuke, do you seriously see Reimu beating up a human and stealing his/her stuff? Hell no.
>Now that's just some fucking horseshit.
Are you serious? Have you not read FS at all? She's never acted even remotely close to ANYONE else like she does with Kosuzu.
>Not lying =/= To be trusted.
Nope, she said the exact same line Marisa did, the same line Reimu responded with ''No, tengu don't lie''.

I think you're just being desperate to pretend in your head that Reimu isn't a hypocrite so you just force yourself to think extreme insanities like her treating everyone the same, jesus fuck dude, her treating youkai worse than humans is common knowledge.

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One of the big hangups I'd have about Kosuzu dying is because we know she's the reason why Bunbunmaru can circulate in the village. Aya mentions that with her missing she can't get her work out. Without Kosuzu, Aya has no liason to spread her newspapers which kind of just eliminates a pretty significant part of Aya's character.

Also this is just meta as fuck and probably means nothing but Reimu is still acting like a goofy shit in all the other mangas and it'd be weird for her to just move on from killing one of her best friends but I suppose it's highly unlikely the WaHH/VFiS crew know anything about what happens in FS.

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>>17077072
>>17077083
Obviously Marisa is her best friend but almost all of FS revolves around how nice and protective Reimu is to Kosuzu.

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>>17077105
>She's never acted even remotely close to ANYONE else like she does with Kosuzu.
Poor Marisa.

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>>17077110
Another meta thing would be that they're still doing slaptstick jokes with Mamizou while Marisa is getting ganked by Youkai!Kosuzu and then jokingly having a burial for Marisa who then says "well I won't tell you whats wrong!!"

I know Touhou has a dark sense of humor sometimes and balances banter with conflict, but if FS is really trying to get you to brace for something as serious as killing its protagonist off then I don't really think they'd just have "Mamizou's a hag LOL bonk her on the head" jokes interspersed with the climax

And FS is all about red herrings and shit too.

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>>17077134
>>17076947
Reimu may joke around but she does care.

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>>17077110
The 2nd part of your post is basically what happened to the Nanoha Franchise when Force and Vivid were running at the same time. Now Force is forever on hiatus.

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>>17077105
>do you seriously see Reimu beating up a human and stealing his/her stuff?
I mean she's only stolen once, as far as I can remember, so that's hardly a fair question.
That said, she's beaten up plenty of humans. Marisa, Mokou, and Keine (kind of), and Sumireko for example.

>She's never acted even remotely close to ANYONE else like she does with Kosuzu.
To be fair, it's told from Kosuzu's perspective, so Reimu acting kindly toward her would more be a result of Reimu interacting with her in the manga more often than she does with characters in the same manga.
And before you bring up the other two manga, of course Reimu is going to have a more friendly relationship with a friend than with a pesky hermit(?) who keeps trying to teach her things, and pesky fairies who are always causing trouble for her.

>She doesn't like it, like in the fairies manga where she gets explosively angry when youkai fill up her shrine at new years.
Only because they keep human villagers from showing up.

Honestly, anon, I think you're just looking for reasons to hate Reimu.

>>17077117
>Obviously Marisa is her best friend but almost all of FS revolves around how nice and protective Reimu is to Kosuzu.
Which is why it's only fitting that it ends in Reimu having to exterminate her. A big part of the manga is about how Reimu has to fulfill her duty as the shrine maiden, so her fulfilling her duty even at the cost of a friend's life would be fitting.

[Anonymous No.]

No new chapter on batoto, when do they usually come online?

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>>17077171
Whenever the translators feel like it.

[Anonymous No.]

So is next chapter gonna be the final one?

[Anonymous No.]

So, Kosuzu died or not? it's the only that matters.

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>>17077117
This page >>17076810
Is Reimu saying her job is to murder humans who become youkai, regardless of who they are. She is ready to kill Kosuzu and I'm pretty sure (the chapter isn't out yet) that the reason she doesn't is because Yukari interferes.

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>>17077233
This is all buildup to the very emotional moment where Marisa finally becomes youkai and Reimu has to carry out her duty. Many tears will be shed.

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>>17077249
Would ZUN really kill off one of the 2 Touhous he wants to get into a hot spring with?

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>>17077170
>I mean she's only stolen once, as far as I can remember, so that's hardly a fair question.
Oh come on, she was completely okay with mugging someone just because it was a youkai, there's nothing that suggest she'd do the same to humans, who she acts kind towards.
>That said, she's beaten up plenty of humans. Marisa, Mokou, and Keine (kind of), and Sumireko for example.
So? None of those are becuse she wanted to mug them just to selfishly and greedily pay back her tab with Rinnosuke. The fights she has with humans (and actually youkai most of the time) are because she's solving an incident and they're trying to stop her. Hell in the final story of ULiL despite having to beat up Sumireko she says it's purely to stop her from killing herself.
>To be fair, it's told from Kosuzu's perspective
You know that's just some fan theory, right?
>Only because they keep human villagers from showing up.
Yes, the human villagers that she'd like to visit her shrine, not the youkai that she'd like to beat up and shoo off in that very same chapter.
>Honestly, anon, I think you're just looking for reasons to hate Reimu.
Reimu's my favourite character, and I like her for what she is, I have like 10 times the amount of pictures saved for her than any other character, but you seem to like a version of Reimu that loses part of her usual rash personality because you try to justify her actions in your mind to make them seem different than what they are. You're not being honest.

To anyone with common sense, Reimu treats youkai worse than humans, whom she is protective of. The stories usually end up with her befriending the youkai that she claims to despise and treats badly in other occassions. In other words hypocrisy doesn't mean being a bad person, if anything Reimu's constantly varied nature only makes her more interesting and less shallow as to what her intentions really are.

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>>17077233
B-but Alice-chan got a free pass!

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>>17077170
>>17077233
I was only commenting on people saying that "she cares more about Kosuzu than anyone" is bullshit. I wasn't making any kind of statement on how the manga will go.

I agree that Marisa is the most important person to her, but it's not a completely batshit statement; the entirety of FS shows how much she cares about Kosuzu.

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>>17077260
Arisu is from Makai.

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>>17077233

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>>17077283
Translate.

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>>17077283
Oh, dumb Reimu

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>>17077292
Because Kosuzu is alright she's no longer worried

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>>17077259
>she says it's purely to stop her from killing herself.
No, she's doing it primarily because it would rip open a hole that would allow the Lunarians to come to Earth, which is an incredibly bad thing.

>You know that's just some fan theory, right?
No, the series literally follows Kosuzu. She is the main character, and thus most interactions are between her and other people.

>Yes, the human villagers that she'd like to visit her shrine
The Human Villagers that she wants to see visit, because it is supposed to be a human shrine. Also, youkai don't donate. Greedy Reimu is a dumb meme and everything, but she still needs donations.

>Reimu's my favourite character
And yet you barely understand her.

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>>17077327
>No, she's doing it primarily because it would rip open a hole that would allow the Lunarians to come to Earth, which is an incredibly bad thing
That's just another factor, even after the incident Reimu's still protective of her by guarding her everywhere she goes.
>No, the series literally follows Kosuzu
Again, the whole ''perspective'' thing is a theory. There's nothing that says what's happening is being skewed. After all, if it was her perspective then she wouldn't be wrong about her friends betraying her. Hell we see her perspective in one of the chapters and it's Reimu cooly beating up youkai when in reality it's a whole lot more complicated than that. The whole series is about Kosuzu NOT knowing what's going on up until now.
>The Human Villagers that she wants to see visit, because it is supposed to be a human shrine.
Even more proof she likes humans more than youkai. Because it's her job.
>youkai don't donate
They do.
>And yet you barely understand her.
Please, you're the one desperately trying to defend her actions as moral and not hypocritical. I notice you stopped arguing against the tengu point.

Reimu's a hypocrite because despite being against youkai to the point of mugging them for no reason she also gets along with them, depending on the occassion. She's a hypocrite because she doesn't follow her own words, like correcting Marisa with something only for her to partake in that same mistaken belief later on.

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>>17077327
>No, the series literally follows Kosuzu
You'd have a point if she was the narrator or something and people weren't talking behind her back all the time.

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>>17077358
>Reimu's still protective of her by guarding her everywhere she goes.
She literally explains why she's doing that in the new Aya book. Spoilers, it's not because she's super fond of her.

And jesus I'm not even going to try to explain that second point to you, as it's so far above your head that it would be a waste of my time.

>Even more proof she likes humans more than youkai. Because it's her job.
Wow, the point I've been making this entire fucking time. She gives humans preferential treatment at times because it is her JOB.

And of course I dropped the Tengu point, you're basically just saying "nu-uh", like how am I supposed to argue that?

I'm not going to continue this discussion with someone who's just going to straight up ignore a trait that is made explicit in multiple media because he wants to pretend that Reimu truly hates Youkai.

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>>17077259
>I have like 10 times the amount of pictures saved for her than any other character
Is this what /jp/ has become? Whoever has the most pictures of a character is the primariest?

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>>17076992
What's Yukari saying here? Considering >>17077283 is it basically "thanks for proving you'll do your job no matter what, here's your friend back?"

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>>17077374
Jesus, it's so easy to understand if you just take a moment to think.
Kosuzu is the main character
Most interactions are going to be with Kosuzu
Kosuzu, being a (mostly) innocent villager, isn't going to cause Reimu any ire, so most of their interactions will be positive.
As such, Reimu seems to show Kosuzu special treatment under these circumstances, when it very well could just be the result of the circumstances in which we see the two interact, and the fact that they get plenty of opportunities to interact, since the book mostly follows Kosuzu.

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>>17077430
No, no it's not

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>>17077430
That would be a cop-out, but I would accept it.

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>>17077443
Then translate it weeb.

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>>17077392
>She literally explains why she's doing that in the new Aya book. Spoilers, it's not because she's super fond of her.
Yes? Do you think she doesn't want to protect her like she does with all humans?
>And jesus I'm not even going to try to explain that second point to you, as it's so far above your head that it would be a waste of my time.
Stop treating fan theories as facts. You have zero evidence for your point. I have evidence that proves the contrary in the form of the manga being mostly Kosuzu having no idea what's going on.

Show me proof that the manga is being told in Kosuzu's perspective and that facts are being skewed or stop arguing nonsense, because it doesn't make any sense.

>Wow, the point I've been making this entire fucking time. She gives humans preferential treatment at times because it is her JOB.
Exactly, as owner of a company you like people give you profits more than the ones that affect your business.

But it's not just that, that's just another point. In general Reimu treats humans better than youkai, like the aforementioned Tojiko point, you cannot defend her there.
>And of course I dropped the Tengu point, you're basically just saying "nu-uh", like how am I supposed to argue that?
The hell? You're just being childish now. I pointed out how Reimu's going against the very line she corrected earlier. How exactly am I going ''nuh-uh'' there?

>>17077423
I have no idea how did you inferred that point out of that line.
>>17077436
Except Reimu shows extreme concern for her even when she's not in the picture. You don't see her doing that for any other villager ever who gets affected by something like an incident in the manga.

Reimu even calls the GODS to find out where Kosuzu is after she disappears. Something she's never done before for anybody.

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>>17077358
>Again, the whole ''perspective'' thing is a theory.
I don't really see how that isn't supported by most of the mangas. She seems completely incompetent in WaHH where Kasen is looking down at her but almost always in control in FS where Kosuzu has been admiring her. Her overall character has mostly been consistent but it definitely varies from manga to manga.

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>>17077452
It's extremely basic with fucking furigana added

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>>17077476
Then translate it weeb.

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>>17077468
>I have no idea how did you inferred that point out of that line.
The fact you mentioned it like it was supposed to give you some kind of leverage in the argument. Nobody is fucking impressed; I had about 800 pictures of Satori saved in my Tenshi folder at one point, and you don't see me trying to use this to strengthen my points in "which part of Satori's body would you like to lick the most" arguments.

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>>17077468
>Reimu even calls the GODS to find out where Kosuzu is after she disappears.
Reimu is a fucking shrine maiden, it's her god damned job to communicate with gods.
Not to mention she's communed with them plenty of times before, such as in SSiB and WaHH.

I have better things to do than to refute your other dumb opinions.

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>>17077468
>Reimu even calls the GODS to find out where Kosuzu is after she disappears.
That chapter was basically just an exercise in how Reimu and Marisa go about solving incidents in completely different manners but arriving to the same conclusion. Reimu converses with spirits because she's a shrine maiden, Marisa runs with logic and deduction.

I agree that Reimu cares a lot about Kosuzu but that's a weird point to make.

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>>17077470
That's called a tone, Reimu even acts differently between the games. Compare her cool-headed self in EoSD where she plays along with Remilia to her angry ''I'm not playing along'' tone in SA where even Okuu points out that Reimu can't read the mood.
>>17077487
You implied I was using it as some measure of primary status when in fact if you actually read the post it was in reponse to me being accused of disliking Reimu.
>>17077490
>Reimu is a fucking shrine maiden, it's her god damned job to communicate with gods.
Did you miss the part that says she's never done that for any other villager?
>such as in SSiB
Because Yukari made her do so.
>and WaHH.
As a way to get money from people with fortune telling baloney.

>I have better things to do than refute your other dumb opinions
Didn't you say before that you wouldn't continue this discussion?
>>17077499
But that's the only time it's happened.

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Who cares about Raymoo?
I hope Marisa is alright.

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>>17077531
>Did you miss the part that says she's never done that for any other villager?
We've never seen her have to track down any other human villager.
And she did do it for a human villager, which is what inspired her to start doing fortune telling, in WaHH.

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>>17077538
press F to pay respects
>>17076947

Marisa is Winter in HSiFS because that's the last time she was alive.

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>>17077499
>>17077551
well that's just a lie, here's Reimu investigating a disappearance by asking the villagers.

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>>17077538
Marisa is Winter in the new game because she is actually a cold corpse.

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>>17077569
To be fair, Kosuzu's disappearance didn't exactly have witnesses.

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>>17077609
but why wouldn't Reimu just ask the gods anyway? also all she did was just ask the villagers where was the last time they saw the missing people.

[Anonymous No.]

I hope Kosuzu dies

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>>17077656
YOU will die and Kosuzu will live on forever!

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>>17077673
As a youkai? What kid of life is that?

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If she does survive, will she turn into a cute girl form or keep being a monstrous youkai? If she is saved by turned back into human, why doesn't they just go turn all the youkai into humans so that gensokyo can be done with?

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>>17077739
ask ZUN.

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>>17077779
Does he even respond to gaijins on twitter, I think not.

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>>17077739
She did survive>>17077283

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>>17077787
pull your eyelids back and make yourself look asian, then take a picture and set it as your avatar, should be good enough to fool him in his perpetually drunken state.

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>>17077551
>And she did do it for a human villager, which is what inspired her to start doing fortune telling
Actually what inspired her to start fortune telling is accidentally stumbling across a dousoujin who told her a baby was gonna be born in the village and the rain would keep going. Nothing about using the gods to find a missing person.

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>>17077882
what is this motion?

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>>17077898
Teabagging.

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>>17077907
I wanna see Reimu teabag someone after she beats them.

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>>17077430
So it's like Abraham willing to kill his son for God?

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>>17078165
Abraham believed that God would raise Isaac from the dead afterwards, so he went ahead with killing him, which as we all know didn't happen because God stopped him.

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So the whole plot was like that time God got jelly and asked Abraham to kill his son to prove his love?

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>>17078815
>>17078165
>>17078778
Welp I didn't even read the posts above me

[Anonymous No.]

Is Kosuzu kill or not?

[Anonymous No.]

Raws where?

[Anonymous No.]

Technically everyone should be happy with the outcome:

-People who wanted to see Reimu being unironically serious and ready to kill Kosuzu because she did something punishable should be sastisfied in seeing she was ready to do so
-People who wanted Kosuzu to live should be happy too since at the end everything gets solved peacefully

But this is /jp/ so I bet you guys will find a way to complain.

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>>17079082
>at the end everything gets solved peacefully
BOO!

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>>17076992
月が綺麗ってそれはもう愛の告白なのでは

[Anonymous No.]

>>17079094
>"hey look at me im edgy asf, i use kkhta pic xDxDxD"
did someone already told you to fuck off?

[Anonymous No.]

Kosuzu never back to be a human guys.
Kosuzu always be a youkai guys.
pls rember, never forget.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17079237
Who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17079082
>Technically everyone should be happy with the outcome
what about people that wanted to see Kosuzu die like some of the ones in this thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17079250
Do we even know how it ends? I haven't seen it uploaded anywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17079250
I want to, but lets not lie to ourselves, had this manga was serialized like, 10 years ago, it might still possible, but seemed like Touhou gradually becomes more tame with their lore.

If I can see Reimu really serious about exterminating her for good in this chapter, then thats good enough for me,I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17079340
FS is the darkest the series has gotten, someone actually dies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17079344
I know, but its not a cute girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>17079340
10 years ago, the youkai would have been beaten out of Kosuzu and turned into another cute little girl to drink tea with everyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17079344
Yeah but it's a meaningless death. ZUN created a character just to kill him, and he didn't even have the balls to make it a cute girl since that might tarnish Reimu's character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17079392
But making her a hypocrite tarnishes her character far more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17079392
But Reimu was willing kill a cute girl, and not just any cute girl, Kosuzu, the girl Reimu was so overprotective of the whole manga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17079419
But she didn't actually do it. Kosuzu's blood isn't on her hands. Being willing to kill someone is different from actually doing it.

We don't get to see how Marisa reacts to the knowledge that Reimu will kill her if she becomes a magician. We don't get to see how Reimu reacts to killing someone she cares about in the name of duty. We don't get to see a lot of shit.

I didn't really expect Kosuzu to die, but I'm still a little disappointed things ended in such a boring way.

[Anonymous No.]

I just want real stakes ZUN

[Anonymous No.]

>>17079501
You want a series that isn't about a paradise where humans can live together and battle without getting hurt. The older descriptions from years ago even say youkai were getting too complacent before rather than being wilder and more dangerous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17079531
>where humans and youkai can

[Anonymous No.]

>>17079481
>But she didn't actually do it.
But she was willing to, it's like saying a mercenary's character isn't tarnished simply because his job got called off at the last moment. It's the intention that counts. Now we know that Reimu Hakurei is willing to kill her friends if her job makes her do it.
>We don't get to see how Marisa reacts to the knowledge that Reimu will kill her if she becomes a magician
where did that theory that Marisa wants to become a youkai come from? Also Reimu explicitly tells Marisa and Kosuzu how she killed the revived human, Count Nosferatu, so I'm pretty sure they already know the rules.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17077810
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

Based Yukari wants to show Reimu that she's not always right when it comes to exterminate youkai, that's there's a line beyond duty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17079687
You're a fucking idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17079729
Yukari's also the one that makes Reimu attack Yamame and Satori for no reason in SA even though Reimu says they haven't done anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17079736
It's almost as if Yukari's number one priority is the stability of Gensokyo, and it's within her best interests that Reimu stays both strong, and willing to do her job no matter what.

But that would be too well written for something like Touhou, according to some of the people in this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17077283

>無事だったのね
>心配ない

This better NOT be what I think it is. But there is no good reason to think that it isn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17080052
what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17080054

That Kosuzu was totally unharmed even though she committed the greatest sin known to humanity

>>17077486

Please learn japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17080066
Of course she's fine, do you seriously think ZUN has the balls to kill her? Pfft.
>>17076810
>>17076992

[Anonymous No.]

>>17076810
What the fuck are those fingers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17080066
>That Kosuzu was totally unharmed even though she committed the greatest sin known to humanity
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT ZUN!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17080066
>>17080082
bit late there fellas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17080077
Moe-sensei's demonfingers strike again!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17076947
I can't believe Marisa is (ry

[Anonymous No.]

So all this talk about death has me curious.
Is there a character that, if ZUN were to kill them off, would make you drop Touhou for good?
My answer is pic related. I don't think I could go on if she were to die for good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17080128
I want Marisa to suffer

[Anonymous No.]

>>17080128
What do you think would cause the most controversy?

Killing off Reimu/Marisa, or giving them a canon love interest of some kind?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17080174
Jeez, that's a tough one.
I hate to say it, but I almost want to say the love interest would. Death isn't the end in Touhou, since ghosts and whatnot exist, but a love interest could both "ruin" their "purity", upsetting waifufags, and could shatter the hopes and dreams of yurifags were the love interest to be male. And considering how obsessive both those groups, especially yurifags, can be, the backlash would be tremendous, again especially if they were confirmed to be heterosexual.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17080112
So that's why they all wear hats!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17080174
In terms of controversy, love with each other < death << love with a man.
Unless it was Marisa in love with Rinnosuke. I think that would go easier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17080314
Pretty much this.
That said them being in love with each other would piss me off, personally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17079481
>We don't get to see how Marisa reacts to the knowledge that Reimu will kill her if she becomes a magician
Why do people always say this as if Marisa becoming a Magician youkai is a foregone conclusion, and that it would be punishable by death?

Marisa's entire character is that she's an ordinary human magician.

>>17080193
Or if they were confirmed to be gay people like you would throw a fit because /a/ convinced you there's some kind of "yurifag" conspiracy and that they're everywhere ruining everything.

Romance either way would be the biggest controversy because it has no place in Touhou, straight or gay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17080342
You're saying that as if the majority of the fanbase isn't yuri mad.
I can guarantee you that there would be very little real backlash from a yuri pairing, despite romance having no place in Touhou, because a vast majority of people who ship within this fanbase do yuri pairings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17075326

>>17076947
Take her away

[Anonymous No.]

>>17080519
Yes my liege.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17080523
holy shit!

how long have you been standing there?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17076947
I see that this is going to be updated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17080174
Faceless male love interest for either Reimu or Marisa would cause one of the biggest shitstorms in japanese history.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17080746
Man I wish Marisa was my best friend.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it uploaded yet?

[Anonymous No.]

how big will the funeral for ksz be?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17080070

I mean, she doesn't have to be dead. Even being seriously harmed with 100% chance of full recovery is the most I can distantly hope of ZUN, and it is a good punishment for her wicked attempt to undo the balance of nature.

[Anonymous No.]

Someone link to the raws already so that I can be disappointed when nothing really happens in the end after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17081084
Heh, I remember trying to start reading these mangos and droping them after seeing they were just vague, pointless dialogues that added nothing to my touhou experience

[Anonymous No.]

>>17081049
we need to read the full chapter first to see the exact details of Yukari's latest prank.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17080342
Where is the idea that learning to abandon food aka being Magician youkai is forbidden coming from anyway? I mean some humans villagers try to become hermits according to Symposium of Post-mysticism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17080351
>because a vast majority of people who ship within this fanbase do yuri pairings.

Because there's literally only one named male with a design. All those hetero doujins show that there's plenty of non-yurifags in the fandom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17080351
There would be little backlash from yurishits, but there would be much backlash from people who actually play the games, read the fanworks and follow the canon rather than their "pure" fantasies.

A yuri reveal would drastically shift most existing relationships. It would cheapen Reimu and Marisa's unusual rivalry-friendship. It would nullify the mystique around Sakuya's utter dedication to Remi. It would fetishise Mokou and Kaguya's murderous hatred. And so on and so forth.

A hetero-romantic twist would be just out of place, but at the very least it wouldn't destroy any of the existing relationships. It may introduce new tensions (e.g. Reimu getting a husband, and Marisa's feelings on her bestie now having divided loyalties), but for the most part it would have no detrimental effect on relations between characters people actually care for. Again, I'm not saying Touhou is the right place for romance. But between the two evils, a hetero reveal would be much less destructive.

[Anonymous No.]

We can compare penises and vaginas anywhere, on to more important business like flipping off Yukari.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17082696
>e.g. Reimu getting a husband, and Marisa's feelings on her bestie now having divided loyalties
Marisa will always have Alice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17076932
Nice shoes Reimu

[Anonymous No.]

>>17082950
Those belong to Alice!
Reimu is a thief!

[Anonymous No.]

What a stupid manga. I wish ZUN would just focus on the fairy manga instead of shit like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17083443
I'm not convinced by what anons have posted yet, so I don't know what actually happens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17082950
They're pretty old.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17083656
Does she dig the heels into the ground to sit securely?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17083656

Reimu looks like she's about to explain the birds and the bees to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>17082618
> All those hetero doujins show that there's plenty of non-yurifags in the fandom.
That's just called porn, anon, and a vast majority of it is non-romantic. The small subset that is romantic is usually a self indulgent fantasy involving "totally not an idealized version of the reader/author" the character.

>>17082696
>A yuri reveal would drastically shift most existing relationships. It would cheapen Reimu and Marisa's unusual rivalry-friendship. It would nullify the mystique around Sakuya's utter dedication to Remi. It would fetishise Mokou and Kaguya's murderous hatred. And so on and so forth.
And this is a big part of why I would dislike a yuri reveal, thanks for putting that out there.

>>17082929
You mean Marisa will always have me!

[Anonymous No.]

When is this shit coming out?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17077259
>You know that's just some fan theory, right?
>>17077358
>Again, the whole ''perspective'' thing is a theory. There's nothing that says what's happening is being skewed. After all, if it was her perspective then she wouldn't be wrong about her friends betraying her. Hell we see her perspective in one of the chapters and it's Reimu cooly beating up youkai when in reality it's a whole lot more complicated than that. The whole series is about Kosuzu NOT knowing what's going on up until now.
>>17077374
>You'd have a point if she was the narrator or something and people weren't talking behind her back all the time.
>>17077531
>That's called a tone, Reimu even acts differently between the games.
The differences with the games are not quite the same as the differences with the written works. I personally wouldn't call it "perspective" since that sort of implies that the events being shown change (as anons above seem to mistake); I typically call it the lens of the work because that's what it resembles the most.

>>17079481
>We don't get to see how Marisa reacts to the knowledge that Reimu will kill her if she becomes a magician
Marisa holds onto her humanity pretty dearly though. We also don't know if becoming a magician is in the same class as the existing jinyou cases. Magicians are pretty close to being as human as possible, they just have the particular quirk of sustaining themselves through magic alone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17084997
Oh, I forgot the main point of that post. ZUN has explicitly stated in SCoOW that there are no works from the viewpoint of Reimu herself, and that the viewpoints of other characters affect how she is portrayed. While I think most people paying attention would be well aware of this lensing by now, the fact that he outright says this much should be evidence enough that this is how he writes his works even if you were previously skeptical that this is what was at play.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085020
Isn't that more due to the events of the manga themselves? I mean we don't see Reimu doing her Ed Edd and Eddy-tier schemes (mostly) in FS like we do in nearly every chapter of wahh.

ZUN says characters do see her differently but nothing about each manga having a specific perspective that skew the events. He mentions everyone, not just Kosuzu or Kasen, see her differently. He also includes the games.

I think again it's just each manga having a different tone. I mean, look at SSiB, there's no recurrent ''unique main character'' there like in the other manga to claim there's a perspective of, just Reimu and company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085152
>>17085020
Akyuu's and Aya's written books are examples of clear character perspective works, since they are the narrators, especially in the case of the latter who as a journalist exaggerates things and makes stuff up for the sake of more exciting articles.

But in the manga, there is an omniscent narrator each time, one that's above all characters and knows everything.

[Anonymous No.]

http://bato.to/reader#896e42d2b27fd5de

Chapter's out. Reimu really is a hypocrite.

[Anonymous No.]

If Fortune Teller wasn't a thing, then not killing Kosuzu would have made sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085383
To be fair, Yukari deliberately breaking the balance is like the US President deciding to nuke New York City. Kosuzu may yet face her reckoning. But right now, there's a much greater priority.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085383
The ultimate redpill

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085383
tsukumogami continue to get genocided.

What the fuck is Raiko even doing just jerking it with the Prismrivers

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085383
Reimu's new boots are sexy af

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085383
Why did Reimu team up with fucking Mamizou? Was Marisa hurt that bad? Tanuki team up is just asking for a doublecross.
Also, it is a possession after all. Not the fusion, not the class change. So Reimu's slaughter rules won't apply.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is she so cute?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085383
This seems alright, maybe we will get some more epic fight scenes next chapter. Doesn't really look much like they are playing danmaku though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085417
Can't blame her for having Benben around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085383
So those who predicted an asspull were right.
As per the norm for this manga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085383
So wait, what's everyone so upset about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085522
ksz isn't dead like we all hoped

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085522
Reimu didn't go in for the kill.

[Anonymous No.]

Yukari Yakumo. Not even once.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085537
Nothing will happen, no one will die, has ever something interesting happened on Touhou besides backstory things? Zun is a hack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085541
We all know this, which is why we wanted to see real shit go down

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085550
I actually just hate Kosuzu. She's an awful person who's far too dangerous to have around and people keep writing doujin about her mutilating my waifu and fuck her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085537
They are just gonna have a nice long talk while drinking some tea and everything will be fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085530
>>17085528
And there's a good reason for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085552
Is marisa your waifu?

[ANON X No.]

>>17085434
Reimu is 'modern' whilst Mamizou has all that 'old school'' to draw from, if you think it through it plays to their strengths.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085383
>reimu can open gaps
ZUN plz, this is retarded, even for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085566
No.

...Yes.

[ANON X No.]

>>17085528
you would be the type to kill off 'white hat' John Wayne in the first reel of a western movie now wouldn't you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085579
Marisa sux

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085550
>a goddamn army battle over Kosuzu's soul
>Reimu vs Yukari, no spellcard rules
This isn't real shit enough for you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17077118
>Poor Marisa.
But Patchy'll just get all her stolen books back from that dead bitch...
"I GOT YER FUCKING FORBIDDEN SCROLLERY RIGHT HERE YOU SHIT-FOR BRAINS YOUKAI CHUCKLEFUCKS!!!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085575
She's been able to do so for a while now. Even if you don't take into account ZUN drawings and her being able to screen wrap on her own in IN, she literally is shown as opening gaps in ULiL. It's pretty clear that she knows how to use some border based magic.

>>17085590
That's rude man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085600
Yeah, can't wait for Yukari's """totally serious fight"""

[ANON X No.]

>>17085600
So the first 'official no rules fight' since little Alice opened up the grimoire back in MS [perhaps]?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085600
Can't wait to see how Reimoo's gonna beat Yukari if there even is a fight.

[Anonymous No.]

Would love to see the tanuki hag get exterminated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085704
Mamizou did nothing wrong! Nothing!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17080082
Kosuzu was technically still alive, so she could be purified.
Count was dead as fuck, so he was some sort of zombie.

still a bullshit, tho

[Anonymous No.]

YUKARI DID NOTHING WRONG
DID
NOTHING
WRONG

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085721

She literally set up for Kosuzu to get killed. How did she not do anything but wrong?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085528
>>17085550
Who's we?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085777
Kosuzu had it coming.
if this entire setup was something Yukari did just to get a dangerous human out of the way and destroy the library (which is a threat as it represents a gathering place of human knowledge,
I will be slightly disappointed.

[Anonymous No.]

>Kosuzu isn't actually possessed
>Kosuzu has actually possessed the youma book youkai and is using its powers for her own gain

How badly would /jp/ implode?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085777

Nice digits but the setup was a setup!

Why else would she spill all the beans to Reimu immediately, let alone not just gap away after reminding Reimu that the barrier requires her so she can't be exterminated?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085789
some fag would make a general on /a/ about it and siphon most of /jp/'s reaction there kinda like how /v/ siphoned off the latest 2hu demo's reaction making /jp/ pretty dead during the demo's release in comparison to the older demos

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085659
Well, this is definitely kill mode Reimu. And while Fortune Teller was a jobber, it did establish that she doesn't give fuck one for the SCR when punishing this sin. The difference is, for Yukari, Reimu'd actually have to break out her laundry list of superpowers.
(Yukari hard-counters them except for the limited precog)

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085789
I want Kosuzu to burn with her devil books.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085797
/v/ has had demo threads pretty consistently over the last few games.

>>17085800
>(Yukari hard-counters them except for the limited precog)
Omniscient third person narrator of IN tells us that she can't counter Fantasy Heaven.

[Anonymous No.]

Lunarians stop being shitposters and save the day when

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085417
>Raiko
>relevant
lel, this happen when you shit out too many characters

[Anonymous No.]

HEAVEN OR HELL

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085821
>smiling
post incident tea party guaranteed

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085841
What if she's just getting her hopes up?
What if this is all building up to Kosuzu needing to die anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085784
You know, that actually doesnt sound that bad.

That is, if we also get Kosuzu turning and extermination be a public knowledge as well, so the one doing the library burning were the villager as themselves, as a sign of them becoming more scared and helpless, eventually empowering the supranatural forces even more

[Anonymous No.]

Post your take for Ghost Kosuzu spellcards when Reimu battles her out the last time before she departs to the afterlife in HSiFS Extra Stage

I mean, killed off while being possessed must have make her a restless spirit, thus she probably need to vent it out the last time before crossing over

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085605
>>17085800

Can you imagine the shit storm it would be if the result of all this buildup was Kosuzu being fine as predicted but *Yukari* who actually bites it and is fucking killed or banished forever, (Freeing up plot room for more Gensokyo-endangering incidents)

Especially if it was a Big Boss/Boss situation and Yukari has purposefully done this to pass the mantle on to Reimu. I mean, she even did her gap-teleport thing to find Yukari

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085528
Not. Yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085522
Grimdark fags have their pooper on fire because ZUN didn't go for the easy shock value of having Reimu killing Kosuzu.
Guess they'll have to get back to stroking their dicks to KKHTA and Zounose's crap

[Anonymous No.]

>>17080082
Kosuzu didn't kill herself like him. Really if Reimu didn't kill him the ministry of right and wrong would be after him sooner or later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085821
>Yukari was actually trying to stop Kosuzu and defeating her solves nothing
See WaHH 35

[Anonymous No.]

>>17086057
Well excuse some people for having brain capable of handling progression, suspense, and thrill, while SoLfags refuse to move out from their 20 year old stasis bubble. Heck, even ZUN evolve with his games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085936
She's been so irrelevant lately
I don't think anyone would really miss her

[Anonymous No.]

>>17086254
I would.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17086272
exactly

[Anonymous No.]

So, who will win?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17086285
Mami > Youkaisuzu
Reimu > Yukari (willingly)

[Anonymous No.]

>>17086285
I'd love it if the Tanuki got BTFO since this is kind of her fault, and it would make sense since the scroll youkai is supposed to be pretty strong, enough to beat Marisa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17086242
I don't remember any of those things being linked with killing off main characters for the sake of sating your edginess, but maybe watching too much GoT warped your understanding of those terms

[Anonymous No.]

>>17086310
I fucking hate the Tanuki, yet Marisa got caught off guard by Kosuzu reading the scroll.
I do expect, however, Reimu beating up her shortly before the tea party, as a big bright "calm the fuck down" sign towards the rest of the youkai.

[Anonymous No.]

Reimu is a lolicon who will spare little cute girls, I feel bad for fortune teller.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17086469
If he wasn't such an idiot he would have took the form of a cute girl instead of his count dorkula look

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085936
>ZUN killing off a cute girl
NEVER EVER

[Anonymous No.]

>>17086469
Not all the cute girls, just her fresh new youkai imouto.
sejia btfo

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085777
Yukari's set up here is pretty much spelled out by Mamizou when she's preparing to fight the scroll youkai.

Yukari tells Kosuzu that Reimu is coming for her and asks her what she thinks about Youkai. Kosuzu says they aren't all bad. Yukari then tells her she came to save her at a time where Mamizou and Aya are threatening her, and she feels like she can't trust Akyuu, Marisa, and Reimu completely. Kosuzu runs off afterward with the scroll.

Next time we see Kosuzu, she is completely possessed, without her name on her outfit, saying things that don't really jive with the conclusion she reached re: youkai. So she's clearly been manipulated by Yukari into getting possessed by the scroll, likely under pretense that whatever Yukari does will "save" her (Yukari probably didn't tell her exactly what would happen). The scroll is probably working off of Kozusu's internal conflict and her memories somehow.

Reimu immediately pinpoints the fact that Yukari manipulated Kosuzu into doing this, and that it was Yukari's decision, not Kosuzu's (which Yukari is planning on). Which means Kosuzu isn't directly responsible for what's happened to her. Since it's Yukari's fault, Reimu thus doesn't kill Kosuzu, who is an important liaison into the village for youkai to help maintain a semblance of balance and influence so one group doesn't get too powerful (i.e. Aya's newspaper). Reimu makes Mamizou destroy the scroll youkai but not harm Kosuzu. This is the big point here. Mamizou remarks that if she was making the call on her own, she'd just kill Kosuzu because she wants the scroll. Remember, she just came out and threatened Kosuzu about it to try and intimidate her into getting the scroll because she wants it. But since she knows Reimu will legitimately kill her if she hurts Kosuzu, she has to back off and just take care of the youkai. Mamizou thinks she can get it to possess one of her minions instead but somehow I don't think that will work out for her.

Reimu goes to exterminate Yukari (who is probably bluffing with "that threw off my calculations" because she could just deny it if she was really hoping for her to kill Kosuzu), who will likely willingly lose like she does in WaHH. Thus the final effects are twofold: Mamizou doesn't get her hands on an immensely powerful scroll which she was really close to obtaining, and Kosuzu is saved, now becoming someone else Yukari can easily talk to and influence.

Gap slut always win.

Dumb smelly Tanuki hag always LOSE

[Anonymous No.]

>>17086855
4D chess, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17086314
>for the sake of sating your edginess
Anon, dark things can happen for more than just the sake of being edgy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17086929
A little girl running away from home because she feels that everyone she thought she could trust was betraying her and being possessed by an evil demon is not dark?

[Anonymous No.]

ZUN won't even kill one irrelevant human that happens to be a cute girl in a setting where death isn't even that big of a deal. Meanwhile Parsee suffers a fate arguably even worse than death.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17085936
>imagine the shit storm
>Big Boss/Boss
This is not /v/. Please leave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17087004
>irrelevant human that happens to be a cute girl
she's the main character

[Anonymous No.]

>>17087004
She is the main character of the manga you mongoloid

[Anonymous No.]

>>17087008
>>17087017
In the grand scheme of things she's irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17087034
but she isn't, she's the entire reason Aya can circulate Bunbunmaru through the village

even if she didn't she isn't any less relevant than most of the cast other than the ones who show up constantly like the playable characters

[Anonymous No.]

>>17086855
But what did Yukari do to Kosuzu while she wasn't in Gensokyo for a while? Is Kosuzu going to turn out to be pregnant?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17086855
>without her name on her outfit
That's normal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17087057
>But what did Yukari do to Kosuzu while she wasn't in Gensokyo for a while?

>Tags: Rape, loli, age gap, yuri, mindbreak

Mamizou even loses out on her molestation prey

[Anonymous No.]

>>17087065
You couldn't protect that smile.

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>>17087057
She got dibs on that fine cunny

[Anonymous No.]

Reimu would never let Marisa die, Marisa would never let Reimu die.

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>>17086973
Dark? Yes. But its the good kind of dark. The dark where it was carried off together by the lore, the buildup chapter, and the characters. Its the dark that is actually always been there in the first place.

I mean, It is only logical if in a setting that acts as a supernatural haven, where vampires, demons, onis, ghosts and other kind of inhuman creatures, should each have their own thinking pattern/needs that is different from a human. Im not surprised if a human were faced with these reality it would freak out and called them as "dark" for them, because it doesnt conform to their "human" ideals. ZUN doesnt potray them as such? Well, actually in the canonical infobooks, official sidestories, and direct commentary/story from him in the music albums, he actually explores these "dark" themes, but usually SoLfags doesnt listen to these parts because it doesnt appeal to them and try to find their own workaround.

I think I solved the SoLfags dillema. See, Kosuzu is THE designated self insert for SoLfags. Kosuzu is the beacon of SoLfagness in the manga, the main character that experiences the sweet stuff while the rest of the cast work unseen to preserve the SoL setting to stay SoL. They react the same too. When Kosuzu and SoLfags were faced with the other side of Gensokyo, they panic and try to dismiss the other idea. In SoLfag case, they scream "Edgy!1!" and refuse to see other way, while Kosuzu faints and let the other characters to deal with them, keeping her int he dark so far. The problem is, that now the SoL elements had to meet with the dark again, and they just cant fucking handle it, refusing to see it actually been there in the first place and opt to just dismiss it again.

tl;dr Edgy is Dark, but Dark isnt always Edgy. If you scream Edgy at all things Dark, then you are too far gone to be helped, and probably sleep with the lights on because you dont want to sleep in the edgy.

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>>17087181

Not that anon but, as long as Reimu and Marisa is safe their isn't anything to worry about!

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>>17087181
Good thing I never called what we got so far in the manga "edgy", because, as you said, there wasn't anything.
On the other hand, lots of edgelords scream for Kosuzu to be killed because they can only get enjoyment out of the suffering of others, and cry and moan and call ZUN a hypocrite and a hack for not having Reimu murdering her.
People pretending that Touhou is just the fairies manga is wrong, but so is believing that it should be some grimdark fantasy setting

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So in short Yukari played everyone like a damn fiddle so that Reimu would have an out and doesn't have to kill her friend. And Reimu gets so buttblasted over this she's gonna fight Yukari 1vs1 me faggot, no spellcards, final destination. Why? Is it just to keep up appearances? She should be on the ground kissing gaphag feet for this.

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>>17087206
Well, I seemed to mistake you for that one edgy screaming manlet thats above the reply trail.

To be honest, I know that deep in my heart, that seeing the rate of things, ZUN wont kill her. Maybe she turned into a full time youkai, or a ghost, but theres going to be a loophole caused by some characters that would let her live. I knew that, and Im sure a lot of the """""""""edgelords"""""""""" knew that, but maybe we just want to believe that we are led to something drastic again, like that time when Fortune Teller was offed for real onscreen. Maybe we just wanted to be surprised again by this series we've known for so long, to avoid it being too formulaic.

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>>17087297

We need to make a board game, It would be light hearted Clue/Call of Cthulhu game.

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>>17087181
What doe SoL even mean?

>>17087206
>lots of edgelords scream for Kosuzu to be killed because they can only get enjoyment out of the suffering of others
You clearly don't understand why people wanted to see Kosuzu bite it, and are instead making the people who wanted to see it happen into caricatures that fit your own perception of what they must be like if they want to see that sort of development happen.

Not everyone who wanted for this to be the finale of the FS storyline are edgelords who unironicaly enjoy KKHTA, anon.

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>>17087373
>Not everyone who wanted for this to be the finale of the FS storyline are edgelords who unironicaly enjoy KKHTA, anon.
Well, there is also a consistent minority of "humanity fuck yeah" morons that are still salty about the fortune teller getting split in half and want Reimu to be "exposed as the monster she really is" or some crap like that

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>>17087065
How old is Kosuzu anyway?

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>>17087420
>and want Reimu to be "exposed as the monster she really is" or some crap like that
I'm pretty sure that's the other side. People who want Kosuzu to die want to cement Reimu's characterization as one who will do whatever it takes to insure stability in Gensokyo. People who want Reimu to do whatever it takes to spare Kosuzu, even if it means compromising her moral obligations, are those who want to see Reimu be exposed as a "hypocrite" or "monster".

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>>17087435
14-16, probably.

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>>17087475
What a hag

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>>17074582
Shit, I hope the crimson slasher doesn't find out

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>>17076947
Every fucking time

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Kosuzu's speech bubbles look weird.
>>17087482

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>>17087373
SoL is Slice of Life. But I tried to word it for those guys that wants nothing to happen in their manga, for everything to stay thematically the same as it was when EoSD came out just so that it wont affect the stagnant headcanon they had, even when ZUN himself had continues evolve his series little by little. I mean, sure, everyone still gathers round for some flower viewing, but the political and lore of the series had march on.

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>>17087078
>age gap
>gap

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>>17087475
Bit older than that.

Kosuzu casually mentioned in one of the earlier chapters she wasn't that much younger than Akyuu and we know Akyuu as of now is officially 23/24. So Kosuzu is probably an adult by now.

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>>17087775
>So Kosuzu is probably an adult by now.
14-16 is an adult already. You think Gensokyo has an age of majority of 20 like outside Japan?

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>>17087822
Then she is ready to become my wife and conceive our first child!

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>>17087233
Because as Reimu said herself, this is her job. She literally exists for this purpose.

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>>17085936
That setup and role passing makes no sense unless you believe Yukari == God of Hakurei. There's evidence for it, to be sure, but there's also evidence against.

Me, I'm thinking if Yukari has to pass on, there's only one person that can pick up her mantle. A fellow student of the paranormal, driven by her own interests and latent potential into inevitable loss of humanity, Who knows through both study and experience the needs and roles of both man and youkai.

Kosuzu is the true heir.

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>>17088198
That's dumb.

>>17085936
I doubt he would just kill her off after reminding game players that she exists in LoLK.

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>>17087181
>>17086973
>>17086929
I think you people are both agreeing with each other actually.

Everyone agrees FS is dark and it's not edgy to like its more serious tone. It's probably my favorite out of the currently running mangas due to its different outlook on Gensokyo, personally. But people who cry about Kosuzu not being killed and both reference the Fortune Teller in anger and are mad that "nothing ends up happening" are weird.

Kosuzu, the main character of this manga, being killed off wouldn't ever fit with Windows Touhou no matter how dark FS is. And FS has been much darker than most of the other mangas in general. But you don't have to be an "SoLfag" to think killing Kosuzu off would be out of place. People don't actively die in modern Touhou, Fortune Teller and the village leader were one-offs to illustrate the point and conflict, and it only happens in FS. But killing the named protagonist of the manga is a completely different matter. It's not something that is consistent with the tone in any of the other mangas or games, even if they sometimes breach more serious topics. Honestly it might be even worse to go down that road completely here and then have Reimu and Marisa turn around and keep having fun and bantering with people and drinking tea; how would they get over the death of their friend that easily? Reimu is being a complete goof in WaHH and VFiS during the Spring.

Yukari's plan is convoluted and even if the ending results in Kosuzu being ok and a tea party, the journey over the past few months wasn't suspenseful? Now the scroll is either going to be eliminated and "end" FS, or it'll fall into Mamizou or Yukari's hands, which shifts the balance of power either way. Just because Kosuzu might live doesn't mean nothing has happened in FS, we've gotten a lot more information on the inner workings of Gensokyo regardless.

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>>17088922
>mangas

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>>17088936
Sorry, mangae.

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>>17085575
So you never played the fighting games? It's one of her moves.

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>>17085383
Nope, Kosuzu is being manipulated by a youkai that can be taken care of, she has not transformed into a youkai.

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>>17085600
>>17085659
>>Reimu vs Yukari, no spellcard rules
you people can't be serious.

it's just another completely pointless spellcard duel, almost as pointless as the reimu v yukari fight in wahh except this time she's the actual culprit.

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>>17085602
>he literally is shown as opening gaps in ULiL
And in Soku, she has a move called Dimensional Rift where she opens a gap and teleports near the opponent.

This is most likely her using her ability to fly out of reality and popping back in near her opponent.

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It's gonna end like every other incident and they're gonna go ''ohohoh that Yukari sure is something huh'' while they drink tea.

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ZUN trying to make Mamizou look cool even though she's one of the people at fault for this incident.

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>>17089121
Well yeah, it's touhou what do you retards expect. the point is the shit along the way. What's the point of these threads if retards like you come along and shit it up with trash like that? I get that I'm no better for falling for your retarded ass second-level bait. Fuck the internet, man.

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>>17089138
cage in lunatic runagate was pretty serious, or at least, more serious than every other Touhou work up until FS.

even though this manga will most certainly have a happy ending, it's still the darkest the series has gotten.

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well this >>17079544 post of mine can be discarded then, the first part at least, that'll teach me to trust /jp/ before reading the full chapter myself.

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>>17089138
You know it's pretty unhealthy to think anyone that posts something that doesn't tickle your fancy must be baiting and that it means they're ''shitting up the thread''.

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>>17089172
You're right and I'm going to go outside for a few minutes.

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Reimu and Mamizou acting cool all of a sudden, did a little bird tell them the manga was nearing its finale?

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>>17089489
it could only be the end of 'season one'' for all we know!

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>>17086855
i think this is right. yukari didn't miscalculate at all; it doesn't take a genius to realize that she'd be behind a spiriting away incident.

yukari promised Kosuzu that she would protect her. kosuzu seems rather safe right now

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>>17086855
>(who is probably bluffing with "that threw off my calculations"
But she wouldn't even have to mention this at all. In wahh she plays it straight for example. She says this because we know she thought Reimu would attack Kosuzu first.

Remember she said that she'd protect Kosuzu if Reimu attacks her. So Yukari did miscalculate. This doesn't mean Yukari wanted Kosuzu dead, I mean, if she wanted that, Kosuzu would have been dead eons ago.

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Yukari could hit herself on the head with a rock and still come out ahead.

Her most OP power is being the embodiment of ZUN's idea of "keikaku doori"

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>>17089750
Each time she tries sharing her old hag hobbies she gets rejected and starts stuttering to make shit up in order to make it look interesting, like the radio towers chapter in the fairies manga.

That's how you beat Yukari, not physically but psychologically, call her old fashioned and boring.

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>>17087646

Is this a reference to something?




Other than touhou

[Anonymous No.]

>>17090181
JoJo

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>>17090181
Nah, just a realistic drawing. (Kind of an art parody of older Asian posters)

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>>17082696
>It would fetishise Mokou and Kaguya's murderous hatred
wait, it isn't a fetish?