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Cornucopia of Resources / Guide
Read the guide before asking questions.
http://djtguide.neocities.org/

Previous thread: >>17019068

This thread is for the discussion and learning of Japanese with raw VNs, LNs, anime and manga.
If you have no interest in otaku media or want to request a translation, this is not the thread for you.

Let's have a nice thread by reporting and ignoring off-topic posts.
がんばってゆっくりしていってね!!!

>> No.17038449

Can Japanese people look at a Chinese sentence and get the gist of it because of kanji, even if they can't pronounce it?

>> No.17038461

>>17038449
You can't?

>> No.17038586
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17038586

>>17038335
That's a good OP.
Makes me nostalgic for anki.

>> No.17038695
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17038695

>お姉ちゃんはそうでしょうともよ!
I can't really understand what she is trying to say in this sentence. Is this と and も as in two separate particles or 共 meaning "together with"? I honestly can't make grammatical sense of either of those cases.

I can understand everything else so honestly it wouldn't be such a loss for me to just move on but this sentence is really bothering me.

>> No.17038696

>>17038586
When did you moon sages completely drop Anki?

>> No.17038814

>>17038695
Look up とも on Jisho or any Japanese dictionary. It just adds emphasis and is made out of the と + も particles.

>> No.17038883

>>17038814
Alright, I got this "of course (as a particle used at the end of the sentence, which shows strong assertion)".

Please bear with me a bit if it seems like I'm a complete retard, but doesn't でしょう estate a certain degree of uncertainty, like 多分? If you combine that with とも meaning "certainly/strong assertion" doesn't that sound a bit contradictory?

Is she just trying to say something like that behavior was much expected from her sister/that's just how her sister is?

>> No.17038920

>>17038883
でしょう is reverse assertion

>> No.17038924

>>17038335
My IME is fucked up and I dont know what went wrong. One minute its typing fine and now its putting out a kana for every keystroke. What did I fuck up?

>> No.17038926

>>17038883
>doesn't でしょう estate a certain degree of uncertainty

No, it doesn't always. In a phrase like そうでしょう when said with a rising intonation it's like "right?"

>> No.17038935

>>17038924
I have a second computer that occasionally does this, never figured it out.

>> No.17038951

>>17038926
Alright, I got a pretty good picture of what's going on now. Appreciate it.

>> No.17038958

>>17038924
Lots of info there. Is it displaying the correct settings on the toolbar, etc?

>> No.17038964

>>17038958
It shows the IME is active and has the symbol for Hiragana up instead of alphanumeric. I swapped to kana but it does the same shit.

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17038978

>>17038964
>>17038924
These are the options currently selected. Maybe someone can see something I don't. I've diddled with most of them so far.

>> No.17038979
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17038979

>>17038978

>> No.17038982
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17038982

>>17038979

>> No.17039033

>>17038924
>its putting out a kana for every keystroke
>>17038978
>Input method: Kana Input

>> No.17039039

>>17039033
The only other option there is romanji input

>> No.17039049

>>17039039
that is what you want
use your noggin and test things

>> No.17039059

>>17039049
And with that, the mystery is solved. glad I could be your resident retard for the day

>> No.17039066
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17039066

Kana is the setting you want when you're used to Japanese keyboards.

>> No.17039099

Is Japan the best country in the world?

>> No.17039143

>>17039099
Not the whole country, only one part

>> No.17039192

>>17039143
Which part?

>> No.17039204

>>17039066
Not even natives use that shit

>> No.17039210

>>17039192
埼玉県

>> No.17039304

>>17039066
kana is the setting you want if youre a giant fucken weeb shit bag as opposed to a regular cool sexy well adjusted person

>> No.17039507

>>17039143
hokkaido master race

>> No.17039719

>>17038696
Just about one year ago, two years in.

>> No.17040061

>>17040041
Because 橋を通りかかった is modifying ところ.

>> No.17040095

>>17040090
>It would make since if it was ところに殺された
No it wouldn't because that's absolutely and utterly wrong.

>> No.17040115

isn't ところを a bespoke grammatical construction whose meaning can't be inferred from its parts

>> No.17040130

>>17040085
please stop making drugs

>> No.17040302

Is there a guide on how to text hook PCSX2 emulator?

>> No.17040516

>>17040462
they wouldn't speak the language as much as chew on it and spit it out
but if you're their bitch boy you'd probably excel in 尊敬語 after no time

>> No.17040762

>>17040671
I don't know a bag which you thinking, but I always use only one mugicha bag.
Putting water and mugicha bag in the kettle.
Boil water. About 10 minitues or so.
Completion.
If you drink cold you could put ice or you could cool in a refrigerator.
The amount of water and the strength of the taste vary from home to home.
My mother likes strong so need 2 bags.

>> No.17040792

>>17040767
>カフェインゼロ
チョメチョメ

>> No.17040803

>>17040792
意味わからん
麦茶にはないだろう、普通に

>> No.17040828

Want to hear something weird? Whenever I forget a card I hold the replay button so it continuously repeats the audio, close my eyes and draw the Kanji in my head. It works surprisingly well to associate Kanji with readings and remembering how to read certain words. Maybe it's just my imagination but maybe it does help, you can give it a shot.

>> No.17040863

>>17040803
はい、間抜けです。許してく

>> No.17041193

How do you stop yourself from microsleeping while doing Anki without overdosing in toxic shit like coffee?
It's so dry and boring that my brain just keeps shutting itself down all the time.

>> No.17041205

>>17041193
I do it on mobile away from the computer as early in the day as I can for maximum concentration.

>> No.17041275

>>17041193
Just let yourself sleep, and then resume again when you wake up. You should really doing your reps as early in the morning as possible though.
If you think your recall rate is suffering from a general "tiredness penalty", then you should probably give yourself more time to remember each card that doesn't come straight away. Overstrict time limits will increase your workload, and the slightly quicker response time won't help you that much in the real world where context and anticipation are what unlocks the highest speeds.

>> No.17041279

>>17040828
Many times a list of words come to my mind and I immediately start writing them, and then I remember the reading, or even the meaning.
For example: 覚. My first thought is おぼえる, given that I know this kanji for a long time. But then 感覚 pops up into my head and I remember that it's also connected with "sensing" and so the reading かく appears in my head.
Or sometimes it's the opposite, I remember the reading, and only when I'm writing the vocab is when I remember how the kanji is written.

>> No.17041463

>>17041449
it's a deceptive waste of time

>> No.17041486

You guys do realize that it's the same guy every day mentioning the service starting with D?

>> No.17041492 [DELETED] 

>>17041486
>argument ad boogeyman
not. an. argument.

>> No.17041493

>>17041477
Just like with Anki?

>> No.17041495

>>17041486
Yes. We do. And we'll keep telling him to fuck off.

>> No.17041510

Hello

Where can I find Japanese subtitles for Koe no Katachi movie?

>> No.17041607
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>>17041389
Not even close, they claim to get you to N5, but it explains absolutely nothing. I really doubt anyone who used it as their sole study resource would ever pass N5.

>> No.17041611

>>17041554
Did you struggle hard when you got your N4? You might actually be better than you think.

>> No.17041659

>>17041647
>Cheating on a language proficiency test

Why the fuck are you even here then?

>> No.17041663

>>17041657
SAAS*

>> No.17041664

>>17041659
I dropped out of being a normalfag because of the shame. Now I'm a diligent hikineet. I'm here because I want to stay up to date on the right way to learn japanese for whenever I start again.

>> No.17041686

>>17041681
I wanted to see if I could.

>> No.17041832

>>17041193
It's only dry and boring because you make it so. Use your imagination. Make it exciting.

>> No.17041864

>>17041726
i've been doing anki for only 10 hours, but i can recognize a lot more words in anime now, too bad i barely watch it these days, the only japanese media i consistently consume are shooting games.
i can understand some things in that page you posted, so i guess it's working.
>>17041832
i once fapped doing anki, imagining words in lewd situations, that didn't help me merorise them more though.

>> No.17042180

>>17042174
>There is also no real party scene in Japan which further turns me off to the country. The ones who do go out are all overly edgy with their "LOOK GUYS I'M SMOKING WEED DESU LOOOOOL".
I think this is a you problem. Normal party behavior is exactly as edgy as "look guys I'm smoking weed!!!"

>> No.17042182

>>17042174
Go back to /int/, faggot.

>> No.17042221 [DELETED] 

>>17042180
Not really but OK

>>17042182
I don't give a shit about anything on int, really.

>>17042198
Basically. I'm both an autist and a normalfag.

>Black
>Trump supporter
>Speaks Japanese
>Hates anime
>Posts on 4chan
>Has an active social life and parties often

>> No.17042337

I want to be loved by everyone.
loveをkind toに変えるには?

>> No.17042384

>>17042367
おkさんくs

>> No.17042608

>>17042600
Look closer.

>> No.17042653

>>17042633
Yeah I think the sentence comes out as meaning "While she didn't notice me as she was arguing online, I got an apple and put in on her head" or something.

>> No.17042764

>>17042759
Looks garbage.

>> No.17042849

Reminder that nihon siki is the superior romanization system and if you use hepburn you're never going to make it.

>> No.17042915

>>17042912
oh, and

dzu
etc

>> No.17042929

>>17042922
It's literally a hybrid of JSL romanization and hepburn romanization. Nothing wrong with changing between different proper romanization systems between letters!

>> No.17042947

>>17042935
That just means that you're retarded.
>>17042929
JSL is a meme romanization that nobody ever uses. Modified hepburn isn't even a mix between normal hepburn and JSL, it's just an abomination. I'm talking about shit like pulling H's out of nowhere.

>> No.17042955

>>17042947
the only """proper""" romanizations are either neither phonemic nor phonetic, or impossible to type without an ime. nobody gives a flying fuck about your delusional personal opinions.
>Modified hepburn isn't even a mix between normal hepburn and JSL, it's just an abomination. I'm talking about shit like pulling H's out of nowhere.
spoiler: if you're not using macrons it's not hepburn

>> No.17042960

>>17042947
The only proper romanization is wapuro romanization restricted to the hepburn consonant orthography and with sensible treatment of syllabic Ns.

>> No.17043143

Why didn't anyone ever tell me I have to be a writter in order to translate?

>> No.17043148

>>17043143
We did. At least, WE did.

>> No.17043240

The romanization that is most often used in this thread is the one that makes perfect sense to me.

ん = n, anything that uses 'm' is completely wrong.
No macrons because they don't always convey the exact sound and are basically wrong. 通り = toori. 東京 = toukyou.
しゃ = sha, etc. I don't really care about the romanization of these but this way works fine because it's pronounced the same way it's written with English.

Anything wrong with the above standards?

>> No.17043265

>>17041493

I payed $25 for Anki, so it works better for me than everyone else.

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>>17042599
>"""translated""" VNs
>lots of fansubbing groups that provide decent subs for anime

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>>17043725

>> No.17043780

>>17043725
>>17043731
Normally I think I don't know enough japanese to do translation but if this is what the people I'd be taking the place of are putting out I can only see it as a net positive.

>> No.17044312

Can you recommend one of the "writing guidebooks" from the cor?

I'm quitting my job next month and I want to print some stuff out for free until then.

Anything else you can recommend?

>> No.17044485

>>17041607
that bonus skill is laughable bullshit.

>> No.17044720

>>17044672
>follow the same reasoning as our QWERTY keyboard? Like, the commonly used letters are far apart so you need both hands to type?
qwerty was designed to reduce jamming while still being easy to learn and making it so that common letter sequences could be typed as strokes instead of needing to be broken up, not to split the common letters into different halves of the keyboard.

>> No.17044731

>>17044720
So are the kana keyboards designed the same way as those, then?

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>>17044859
Thanks for the info. All I got was pic related.

>> No.17044889

I have a more broad question about studying Japanese in general and then a question about a simple sentence which kind of illustrates what i mean. I'm preparing for N2 in July and I'm finding it extremely hard to "let go" of some things I don't know when I run into them.

What I mean is, while doing the mock test for example, there is plenty of vocabulary I don't know. Vocab is always my weak point on the exams. I study grammar first and foremost, kanji w/ WK (I like WK), reading, then vocab, listening but the first 3 I focus on. I wish I had the memory to memorize vocab lists but it doesn't stick so I choose to spend time on the others. I passed N3 but with a low score like this (also think I was lucky).

So during the mock (or real) test there will always be things we don't know. Its timed so I know we have to "let go" of this and continue reading but its difficult and the mental block almost cripples me continuing on in a passage for example.

Last night, I was skyping with a friend and she was asking me to finish some homework. She said 宿題を終わらせてください。I asked her why she didnt just say 終わってください? She is a native speaker and much like an English native speaker many times I dont know the reason for something. I'm checking here because she didnt have a reason and my 2nd friends reason I didnt understand

Friend 1: "We just use 終わらせる to homework not 終わって"

Friend 2: "Using 終わってください sounds like youre giving respect to the homework, but its homework so you wouldnt do that. So use 終わらせる”

both of these explanations I didnt understand and although its a simple sentence for my level these small things are what I think can really eat time during an exam. Can anyone better explain this sentence and more importantly how to "let go" of certain things you arent sure of and just continue? I think its vital for JP learners and exam takers so we can be time efficient.

>> No.17044955

>>17044946
baboon is laughing?

>> No.17044975

>>17044955
I think it's "smiling like a baboon", but I have no idea what the に is doing before that.

>> No.17044980

Are grammar decks for anki a good idea? How do I go about using one? I assume I can't memorize grammar like vocabulary

>> No.17044994

My OS drive died today. I have anki installed on another harddrive, but I want to make a backup of my deck and progress. I'm dual booting so I tried to run anki from my other OS, but my deck or my progress wasn't there.

Where does anki actually save this stuff? Is it tied to the windows user somehow? I haven't been able to find it.

>> No.17045007

>>17044979
Go to cornucopia of resources from the OP, then click the mega link for "Japanese Readers"

>> No.17045009

>>17045002
The issue is that when I run anki from my other OS it doesn't seem to have my deck or progress. So I don't think syncing it with ankiweb would do much good.

>> No.17045010

>>17045007
thanks but seems like the mega link in stuck in a loop. I can't access the download link

>> No.17045011

>>17045009
The other os hasn't saved your ankiweb details. Throw those in and let it sync

>> No.17045017

>>17044955
>>17044975
It's the sound of laughing.

You know, "ni hi hi" - the sound coming out of the person's mouth in that occassion.

You two were overthinking it as shit.

>> No.17045018

>>17045016
Go to the os where your currently updated anki is. Make an ankiweb account. Sync. You now have a backup that you can access anywhere with Internet. It even saves your media files

>> No.17045023

>>17045018
Sorry. I should have been clearer. I'm not sure where my updated anki is. I want to know if all my anki progress is saved in C:/Users/Username/Documents/Anki/ or if it's saved wherever I installed anki to. If it's the former I will have lost some progress because of C drive dying.

>> No.17045041

氈鹿は怖いよね

>> No.17045062

>>17045050
Man I'm blind, should've looked at your post closer. Thanks anyways.

>> No.17045081

How much could I read just knowing just hiragana?

Of course I'm going to learn katakana and kanji as well, but I was just wondering what sort of things I could read just knowing hiragana. I feel like I'm getting to a point with hiragana where I could read it almost perfectly.

>> No.17045093

>>17045085
Fuck off back to plebbit, you mouth breather.

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>>17045033
Managed to import the deck and progress from 5 days ago. A made an AnkiWeb account today and I'm in the process of syncing it. Thanks for the help earlier.

>> No.17045387

Do people here mine names, place names and other miscelaneous stuff (like period names, paintings, star names etc)?

>> No.17045396

>>17045387
No. Most people here aren't even learners.

>> No.17045407

おとこのこがほしい

>> No.17045410

>>17045387
Not really. I mine period names and astronomy shit like 彗星 (専門は天文学から) but you don't really need to remember names since they tend to have furigana the first time they appear in a work.

>> No.17045417

>>17045410
Dunno how it is for shounen manga or whatever you read but a lot of stuff I picked up never has any furi for names or places and just assumes you know them.

>> No.17045518

>>17042599
Eventually you're gonna come across a manga you really really like but the scanlators have dropped it long ago.

>> No.17045622

>>17042739
It's actually shocking just how widespread shitty translations are. I'm convinced that most fan translators are just using dictionaries for key words and guesswork the nuance. Don't even get me started on Japanese -> Chinese -> English translations.

>> No.17045626

>>17045603
手はだめでしょう

>> No.17045725

>>17045700
犯人は僕です and the 彼女 games by global gear

>> No.17045735

From Madokami:
>While it's not going to happen right away, we're going allow raw manga uploads again. People keep complaining about it, and (apparently) nobody else wants to run a terrible server themselves. (if you do run a terrible raws server yourself, let me know and I'll link to it). I think the initial decision to disallow raws was right, but that was like a year ago, so rejoice and stuff. I don't have a solid timeframe for when we'll actually do this, but it'll be sometime before, around, or after when I finally merge HTTP credentials with SFTP. Complain at me and it might get done Slightly Faster™
(´・ω・`)

>> No.17045774

So sentences with こそすれ affirm the beginning part right? For example
私は彼に恨まれこそすれ、感謝される人間じゃない
Basically something like: I should be blamed/resented by him since I'm not the kind of person he should be feeling grateful to.

>> No.17045793

>>17045780
"Scope creep".

>> No.17045805

This channel is pretty new, but it has Japanese and English subs and they post near daily.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYZrt6IwDJziq9uO7RwUOyg/featured

>> No.17045900

>>17045879
they say only 4 people ever passed it

Why do you think it's called n4

>> No.17045909

>>17045805
if we talking channels then dont go here
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCniCaPgAJUKUbJKSTbGvp4w/videos
cause shes tapped
stay for the drawing though

>> No.17045974

>>17045879
Oh, it's plenty hard.
N4 is at the point where they keep a few ambulances waiting outside and place a security guard in the room where testing takes place, to handle all the poor fellows who flunk it lose their sanity along with their registration fee.

>> No.17046202

Has anyone here fully learned Japanese yet?

>> No.17046238

>>17046202
そんなやつ全くいねえよ爆笑

>> No.17046323

>>17046202
yeah

>> No.17046365

>>17046319
Wow. Is this what they call a "meme"?

>> No.17046381

>>17045396
how so?

>> No.17046420

this entire thread is useless because of duolingo desu

>> No.17046460

>>17046449
that's awesome!

>> No.17046474

>>17046440
I started out with a kanji Anki deck and reading Tae Kim. Deleted it when reviews started to seem lke a waste of time compared to the other decks. No regrets here.
Just make sure you have reasonable expectations from yourself, or else you'll end up with shit retention and spend way too much time on reviews.
For me, an acceptable answer used to be recalling something close to the actual keyword and hitting at least one or two of the onyomi. Kunyomi was optional.

>> No.17046537

>>17046464
No thanks, I don't want to read something that's cursed.

>> No.17046583

>>17046202

No I'm a lazy faggot.

>> No.17046636

>>17046622
;_;

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>>17046622
Guess I don't know japanese.

>> No.17046644

https://8020japanese.com/wa-vs-ga/

>> No.17046668

オナニーやったのに気持ちいいならなかった

どうしてでしょう

>> No.17046712

>>17046622
>絵は上手じゃない
Sad! Should've just given up right there and there tbqh desu.

>> No.17046713

〜射精中投稿〜

>> No.17046738

シャクハチを吹き

>> No.17046861

>だからこそ、私は私が本物だと感じたものを信じる
>私は私が
???

>> No.17046998

Is this
http://www.humanjapanese.com/home
any good?

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>>17046622

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17047348

Is there any way to use steam to learn Japanese?

>> No.17047374

>>17047348
Yes. Pour some water in a pan, boil it, drink it, exhale the steam and scream 痛っ!
おめでとう, you're now speaking in Japanese.

>> No.17047436 [DELETED] 

>>17046464
Am I supposed to read this shit vertically, or what?

>> No.17047441

>>17047348
not until the holy works of romeo tanaker get put on there

>> No.17047458 [DELETED] 

>>17047436
Yes. yonkoma are meant to be read top to bottom, right to left.

>> No.17047494 [DELETED] 

>>17047436
you read it by placing into toilet and press flush handle

>> No.17047552 [DELETED] 

>>17047529
why this man skin poop colour

>> No.17047725

>減らす
>減る
What is the difference? Neither the dictionary, nor tatoeba are really helping me on this.

>> No.17047729

>>17047725
Transitive intransitive resp.

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>>17047725
減らす
Transitive

減る
Intransitive

http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar/in-transitive
http://rikaisama.sourceforge.net/#abbreviations

>> No.17047783

>>17047729
>>17047744
Screw that transitive/intransitive crap. Thanks, anons.

>> No.17047982

>>17047962
I didnt even know that they had VNs on there desu
I just started playing games again on there desu

>> No.17047995

>>17047738
Not him but really what's the point of posting shit like this? You are clearly not interested in helping anyone, you just want to be an ass on the internet.

>> No.17048005

>>17047995
If you need help with nooby stuff you'd be better off asking on reddit.

>> No.17048026

>>17047982
yah you can buy alot of trash bag tier games like clannad at bad prices on it

very recommend

>> No.17048060

>>17048005
I am terribly sorry for hurting your sensibilities by asking a question about Japanese in the DJT. I shan't do it again.

>> No.17048079

誰もが本当に遠くに行っても、より多くのように見たいと思って使用することを決めた?

>> No.17048080
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>>17048075
you man up and do it

>> No.17048094

>>17048075
Personally I found the best way to do Anki is during free time when I'm doing some of other shit. I do it on mobile all the time in between classes. The more relaxed I am the more distracted I get.

>> No.17048104

>>17048060
japanese is a language to be learned by yourself in a bubble reading thru hentai porno games

>> No.17048140

>>17047783
Transitive and intransitive verbs exists in English as well so I'm not sure what the hell you're struggling with.

>> No.17048179

Transitive verbs accept a direct object. Intransitive verbs do not. Note that there are exceptions in all languages where some phrases make intransitive verbs appear to accept an indirect object.

>> No.17048213

>>17048172
It's in Tae Kim. Why didn't you read it?

>> No.17048725

呑吐

>> No.17048728

>>17048703
So I take it this thread is in a state of being triggered by all mentions of it. Childish. I was just wondering if it was a good secondary way to learn the basics.

>> No.17048736

>>17048728
So I take it that you're a retarded newfag who needs to fuck off right fucking now.

>> No.17048758

>>17048736
I just explained that I've gone through TaeKim before thanks to this thread, but real life issues made me take a break and now I wanted to know if it was a good shortcut to the basics. If by newfag you mean "don't come here every day", then yeah.

This general has always been extremely helpful and kind in the past. You're being very immature because I mentioned something that you apparently do not approve of.

>> No.17048761

>>17048671
>>17048728
>>17048758

It doesn't bring you anywhere near the N5 level (which is "I almost didn't flunk Japanese 101 in college" level) and it's extremely inefficient because it refuses to actually explain anything ever.

Reading through tae kim once gives you more than duolingo, and if you need help remembering what you learned from tae kim, duolingo is not the way to go, period.

>> No.17048763

○o。.泡.。o○

>> No.17048787

>>17048761
Thank you for that. I had no idea what the course actually was. I just saw people above making jokes about it.

>>17048767
I just explained that I don't come here regularly. I'm not trying to act like I do.

>> No.17048794

>>17048787
You can read a review about it here https://kumasensei.net/learn-japanese-duolingo-review/ (sorry if have ads, I have adblock disabled). The tl;dr: is that it technically does teach you japanese, but it's plagued with incompetent mistakes (like audio playback using the wrong readings in some places), teaches very little, encourages learners to learn pathetically slowly, and doesn't even teach you useful travel phrases even if you're a filthy normie.

>> No.17048797

>>17048794
>sorry if have ads, I have adblock disabled
"sorry if they have ads, I have adblock enabled?"

>> No.17048800

>>17048794
>Apparently, Duolingo considers 20 minutes of studying per day “insane.”

>> No.17049144

>>17048794
Why? Why the no grammar? At least Rosetta Stone has has the excuse of being a monster created from the idea of "we've invested too much time and money into this shit idea to stop now so let's keep pouring everything we have into it", but duolingo is free so what's their excuse? Yes, you learn grammar just by listening and speaking as a child, but that's because you are exactly that; a child. Beyond the critical acquisition period your ability to subconsciously deduce grammatical rules just from hearing language in context is severely reduced.

>> No.17049157

>>17049144
>Beyond the critical acquisition period your ability to subconsciously deduce grammatical rules just from hearing language in context is severely reduced.

This is not true at all. Consumption is still by far the best way to acquire languages, and second-language learners acquire just as fast as later children. The difference is that your ability to consciously comprehend basic rules is so much better, there's no point waiting for exposure to teach you how simple sentences are structured.

he only language acquisition reduction that happens after you stop being a child is about phonetics.

>> No.17049195

you can wade around in all the day 1 shit you want but the push to rise beyond an eternal week 1 separates the boys stuck in kamisaka forever and the boys who can see beyond the surface

>> No.17049238

>>17049231
I don't masturbate in their languages

>> No.17049270

>>17049195
I'm guessing you're the boy still swimming around in the little pond?

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>>17049305

>> No.17049873

I have Anki set to give me my new cards in order added but for some reason it still gives me them in some other strange order. Has anyone else had this happen?

>> No.17049958

oh i know 誰かさん hes very coll guy

>> No.17049984

>>17049908
If it was a group they would say tachi wouldn't they?

>> No.17050077
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17050077

>reading moege
>cute girl, perfect to my tastes, excited to do her route
>she shows up
>and says
>ボク
FUCK
Once again Japanese pronouns have ruined a character. Atashi! Watashi! Watakushi! Yo! Asshi! Shousei! These are the only pronouns a girl should be allowed to use! Bokukko are a blight on Japanese media!

>> No.17050092

>>17050077
自閉症は喋る。

>> No.17050201

what does daiseiko mean?

>> No.17050332

>>17040479
Literally just starting now and boy do I feel like a literal child trying to learn his ABCs all over again with Hiragana

>> No.17050373

>>17050077
Somehow hearing pizzicato five use it puts me off it a bit less. What is the etymology of 僕(ぼく) anyway? Specifically, where does it get the "little boy" characteristic from?

>> No.17050458

>>17050442
Don't force it, just sacrifice a part of your mind and it'll slowly become natural. I know this'll sound weird but think of it like being raped. Don't fight it, accept it.

>> No.17050479

>>17050077
>Atashi! Watashi! Watakushi! Yo! Asshi! Shousei!
where is うち

>> No.17050598

Today I am feeling generous. I will give you this word for free so you can mine it.

切妻

>> No.17050611

Today I am feeling generous. I will give you this word for free so you can mine it.

膣内射精

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>>17050492
>Am I suppose to remember the entire sentence?
No
If fact you dont even need to read the sentence if you understand the word completely in how it might be used

>> No.17050624

>>17050612
thanks pancake-face

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17050838

And here I thought I nailed the listening section

What's /djt/'s JCat these days?

>> No.17050925

>>17050838
I haven't done it in 6 months and honestly I'm scared of not having made any progress whatsoever so I avoid it.

>> No.17051194

>>17050927
何言ってんねん

>> No.17051333

>lovely
Raburi? Raberi?
>it's Ravuri
Aaaaaaaaaaaaa

>> No.17051375
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17051375

Half the downloads from core want me to enter a key, at least the links to books like "https://mega.nz/#!L9cUFYaI!7fI6PmWhtPTXgtjWQgrOZMDcAdJkC2kBQW3_j3F_BV4" do.

Is there a standard password / key I don't know about?
Is it my browser or my fucking country blocking shit again?
Or am I shit out of luck?

>> No.17051387

>>17051375
It's "imgay".

>> No.17051417

>>17050373
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_honorifics#Referring_to_oneself
>When referring to oneself, the first-person pronoun was to be avoided in most situations. Persons of lower status—including slaves, children, and youths—were not to use it when speaking to those of higher status, while those of higher status—including lords, parents, and elders—frequently avoided it as a display of humility and virtue. Instead, a third-person descriptor was used, which varied according to the situation.

>僕, 仆 pú
>This servant (male)
>Literally, "charioteer"
And below a female version is listed: 婢 bì

The male version passed into Japanese as a humble first-person pronoun and then gradually degraded in formality. In Japanese the female version is 妾, meaning "concubine."
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E8%AA%9E%E3%81%AE%E4%B8%80%E4%BA%BA%E7%A7%B0%E4%BB%A3%E5%90%8D%E8%A9%9E

>> No.17051534

>>17051172
Why do you love that faggot so much?

>> No.17051539

>>17050271
>cute tomboy
The trick is to stay away from little kid protags. Late teen orekko get me going, goddamn.

>>17050373
For some reason the west has a much more beta male impression of it than in actual Japan. If you ask a random Japanese male from 20 to 30 years for directions or something the majority of them would use 僕.

>> No.17051555

>>17051539
It's hard for the west to not think of it as beta when the majority of anime MCs who use it are faggots.

>> No.17051557

>>17051534
Not him, but I like the guy as well. He's in that cute age range of knowing some of the more niche subculture memes while being unfamiliar with which are already long past expiry. It helps that his Japanese and pronunciation are legitimately good.

>dont shill reeee
It's not like I'm exaggerating.

>> No.17051601

>>17051596
No, you don't

>> No.17051618

>>17051601
そんな! where did I go wrong?やはり俺の文は間違っていない

>> No.17051619

i asked my japanese friend if he could translate my comic, and he said 出来なくはないと思う

Whats the difference between this and just saying 出来ない?

is the latter more direct; impolite?

>> No.17051625

>>17051619
Probably the fact that it means the opposite.

>> No.17051650

>>17051596
このわたしがどんなにゲイか分からないけど結構ゲイだと思えるようになったのではないでしょうか

>> No.17051657

やはりホモは、自分がどんなにゲイなのかについて語るのが好きですね

>> No.17051762
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17051762

What a bullshit trick.

>> No.17051770

>>17051762
And you're retarded enough to fall for it.

>> No.17051789

>>17051557
>It helps that his Japanese and pronunciation are legitimately good.
That's why I'm interested in his patreon stuff, it's all lessons on Japanese phonetics

>> No.17051836

>>17051375
The key is the part of the URL after the second !. If it's asking you to manually enter it, something is fucked up on your end.

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>>17051625
マジですか?

>> No.17051871

>>17051867
バカですか?

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>>17051871
本当に分からない。

出来ないはないと思う = yes ですか?

分からない

>> No.17051879

可能性が高いと思う

>> No.17051883

>>17051877
Of course a double negative is positive

>> No.17051885

>>17051883
A double negative is a neutral-positive superposition.

>> No.17051889

>>17051877
-2*-2=+4

>> No.17051895

>>17051877
ガイジ

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>>17051883
>>17051885
>>17051889
。。。そうか。[できるかもしらない]のような意味

>> No.17051909

>>17051900
He is saying that he doesn't have confidence that he can do it well but still he can.

>> No.17051910

>>17051900
うん、間違いなく釣りです

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17051937

多い文? What does that mean? Context is that her dad is trying to give her a lot money and she's refusing it.

>> No.17051957

>>17051937
Could be a typo of 多い分. Can't think of any other explanation.

>> No.17051979

anki causes my wifi to lag (asus ac68) i googled it and found one other result which was on reddit and a guy with same card had the problem. is this a known problem?

>> No.17051993

>>17044681
電話?

>> No.17052032

>>17051877
>can't do aren't (I) think => I think there is nothing I can't do.


How is it hard?

>> No.17052036

>>17044681
でんわがずいぶん吹いてるるよね

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17052057

Hey DJT I think I fucked up.

I did core and after hitting 4k or something I increased my new cards too much, like 50-100 new cards per day.
The amount of Reviews increased a lot and I capped my reviews near the end.

Now I'm doing my 300 reviews everyday but have 2000cards waiting for me, the amount of cards doesn't seem to get any lower too, which is only natural as I keep forgetting cards that I didn't encounter in some time.

What settings could I use in order to get hold of this shitty situation?

>> No.17052060

>>17052057
Increase minimum interval for failed cards to 2 days, leech reviews will literally be cut in half after a couple days.

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17052070

アノンも非常にもてるでしょ

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>>17044681
今日は電話が騒がしいな
でも少しこの電話泣いています
どうやら電話が街に良くないものを運んできたようだ
急ごう電話がやむ前に

>> No.17052075

>>17052072
I appreciate you.

>> No.17052101

>>17052057
>50-100 new cards per day
Retard.

>> No.17052143

>>17052057

I'm still doing the base 20 and it's still a ton to go through. I couldn't imagine doubling it or going even higher than that.

>> No.17052180

>>17052057
By the time you've unfucked yourself you'll still be ahead of schedule. You did the right thing.
t. fellow ex-turbo drone

>> No.17052187

>>17048140
Please give me an example.

>> No.17052191

>>17052072
should've posted without the pic

>> No.17052228

>>17052225
no

>> No.17052249

>カンヴァス
>read it as カンパス
You truly cannot escape from できないちゃん, no matter how many years you study

>> No.17052269

>>17052225
>ablative form
>verb
Did you mean to say "the noun that precedes it"?

There are certainly times when it has that function, yeah. But when people told you not to try to translate Japanese into your native language before interpreting it they weren't telling you to translate it into Latin/some Eastern European language instead. Think of it as its own thing and it'll be easier to understand its uses beyond the ablative.

>> No.17052288

「そう言えば、知ってますか?

僕は手をみんなの前に差し出して指を広げてみせた。

よくピアノを弾くのに指が届かないからってこの水かきのところを切っちゃう話とかあるじゃないですか。それでコンクールの前にノイローゼになって本当に切っちゃった人がいるんですけど、血が出すぎてコンクールに出られなくなって、失意のあまり自殺しちゃったんですよ。おかしいですよね」

Can someone help me understand this? It's not even specific parts or grammar that I don't get, I just don't understand what he's trying to say. Is this a reference to a story or something?

>> No.17052293

>>17052288
move down to lower reading level material

>> No.17052299

>>17052288
>It's not even specific parts or grammar that I don't get
Then write down what you think each part means and form a coherent sentence.

>> No.17052318

>>17052288
"Doesn't it happen occasionally that [finger fins, whatever their names are] rip while trying to reach for keys on the piano? And there are people that had a breakdown before a competition and actually did rip their [finger fins], and they lost so much blood they couldn't go on stage, and killed themselves because of the disappointment. おかしい, ain't it."

I blame that one obvious mistake in my translation on not knowing the context.

>> No.17052323

>>17052269
>>17052262
Ok thanks. I figured it wasn't that simple but it never hurts to ask.

>> No.17052327

>>17052318

Yea after reading it over a bunch of times and seeing this I see that it was easier than I thought. Thanks.

>> No.17052331

>>17052318
>Doesn't it happen occasionally that [finger fins, whatever their names are] rip while trying to reach for keys on the piano?

Don't think that sentence is quite right. It's saying that that pianists sometimes talk/joke about cutting that area deliberately because they want the fingers to reach further.

>> No.17052335

>>17052331
Oh shit you're absolutely right. Guess I can't blame it on not knowing the context then, damn.

>> No.17052348

>>17052225
japanese doesn't use declensions.
Particles are something else and have different usages.

>> No.17052393

How hard is Ao no Kanata for my first VN? I can read Pretty Cure manga pretty easily.

>> No.17052396

>>17052393
moege/10

if you struggle with it you will struggle with everything in existence, so just jump in and grind it out

>> No.17052407

>>17052400
Just read something when you get sick of the grind.

>> No.17052419

>>17052393
Easy grammar. There's some dialectal quotes early on but you can ignore them. You'll need a texthooker to look up words if you don't know japanese.

>> No.17052425

>>17052393
「あ、ごめんごめん。もし良かったらって感じで、別に必要無ければひと」
「ありがとうございますっ!!!」
「うわっ!」
女の子は、突如跳ねるようにしてこちらに近づくと、いきなり俺の手を取って、ブンブンと上下に振った。
「はあ〜っ、やっぱり島の人ですね、親切ですね! 仇州は人情の国やけん、心配せんでよかよ、っておばさんが言ってた通りでした!!」
「い、いや、あの……」
「仇州男児、って言うんですかね、なんかこういうの、憧れます、かっこいいです!」
憧れとか格好いいのハードルが下がりすぎだろ、と思いつつも、
「あの、さ」
「はいっ、なんでしょう!」
「いや、あの……手」
「はい?」
そこでようやく、女の子は自分の手をジッと見つめる。
面白いぐらいに、その顔色はキューッと赤くなると、</wbr></wbr></wbr>

>> No.17052428

>>17052400
I stopped all SRS after around 900 cards

>> No.17052445

>>17052425

lol

>> No.17052499

are there any podcasts that are actually interesting to listen to? they're all so boring

>> No.17052516

>>17052499
Become a dedicated fan of a seiyuu, band member/musician, or something and then become obsessed with them to the point where you stalk them online. Then any crappy podcast they do will be interesting.

>> No.17052521

>>17052499
are there any posts that are actually interesting to read there all so boring

>> No.17052524

>>17052521
>there
lol fucking retard

>> No.17052583

>>17052527
who do you think you are, some kind of knock off jamal?

>> No.17052587

>>17052537
>got stale after 4 years, wouldnt recommend

>> No.17052665

それでいいのかい わたしがゲイだからです

shoutoutいただきましてthx

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJiZsWvGeig

>> No.17052710

>>17052665
That's not 悪いぴょん

>> No.17052843

>>17052834
ぼくのぴこ

>> No.17052912

>>17052834
これどうぞ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iflsELvgrfw

>> No.17052941

>>17052938
69 years

>> No.17052943

>>17052938
Yes, the only way to learn a language is to live in its respective country.

>> No.17052994

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aUef_ORkDU

今日の聞き取り宿題

>> No.17053046

>>17052938
First you need to pass the N0/N1 test.

>> No.17053090

>>17052994
あとに寂しくなる気がする

>> No.17053092

>>17052994
ブス女誰だよ

>> No.17053202

>>17051883
Then why do I keep seeing sentences with double negatives that can't possibly mean a positive, and triple negatives that can't possibly mean a negative?

>> No.17053206

>>17053202
Maybe because you're taking drugs?

>> No.17053219

>>17053202
Because people don't always pay attention to what they're saying. It's hard to keep track of all the signs in an equation.

>> No.17053240

>>17053202
maybe its your attitude thats negative and throwing the balance outta whack

>> No.17053348

>>17053340
Double negatives aren't supposed to mean nothing. They're the exclusion of the negative. This is not the same thing as a positive or a non-statement.

>> No.17053356

>>17051979
You know, recently I was getting random lag spikes (around every 10-15 seconds, and only for about 1-2 seconds) in this game I play online, and I couldn't for the life of me figure out the reason.
Then I notice I keep Anki open all the time since I keep mining words here and there, and as soon as I close it, these lag spikes stop entirely. Don't know how that's possible but it's definitely involved. I play on Wifi too.

>> No.17053410
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17053410

How do you defend this?

>> No.17053449

>>17053410
まじビッチだな

>> No.17053525

>>17053410
u mad?

>> No.17053539

>>17053410
Your Play symbols look gay and out of place.

>> No.17053587

>>17053569
Math logic

>> No.17053600

>>17053587
Yes, only in a shit math logic.

>> No.17053738

>>17052499
How many have you tried?

>> No.17053741

>>17053410
this might be a shock to your tiny pol mind, but 外国人 doesnt only include brown people you want to carpet bomb

>> No.17054030

>When you finally reach a level of comprehension where you can understand your chinese H-cartoons, only to realize there's still plenty of stuff, and good stuff at that, that isn't even available online
Will there always be something outside of reach?

>> No.17054169

>>17053356

It made fighting games unplayable for me and I had stopped for like 3 months basically when I used to play everyday. I even bought a new network card which did nothing. I'm afraid to even open anki again to cause lag.

>> No.17054210

Can you use the Japanese to English dictionary for books converted from epub to mobi on a kindle?

>> No.17054218

>>17053356
>>17054169
It's because it's constantly syncing online, so it'll mess up your ping. Just make sure it's not running at all and you should be fine.

>> No.17054232

>>17054226
It most likely does a background sync or something even while its idling.

>> No.17054259

>>17045518
If the scanlators have dropped it, who's to say that there's raws.

>> No.17054366

What does わこつっす mean?

>> No.17054616

>>17054348
あれ、タイラーさんか?

>> No.17054744

vnscripts.neocities.org

>> No.17054799

>>17054796
It's okay, as long as your brain is subconsciously trying to figure it out, it's learning from the process. The more information you give it, the better. Therefore, pay attention to what's going on in the frame, and humor possibilities for why things are structured the way they are, and don't worry about getting the wrong idea because your brain won't learn wrong from exposure even if you try to make it.

>> No.17054802

>>17054726
>How do I learn kanji
learning vocab words and gaining a passive understanding of each kanji's meaning
look up individual kanji if you're having trouble with a particular one

>which readings to use?
use context; both what word the kanji actually appears in and what situation the word is being used in
general rule is onyomi for jukugo, kunyomi for everything else

>Shit like 六日 is surprisingly hard and stuff is obviously going to get harder
actually it gets easier
going from 0 to 300 kanji feels like medieval torture unlike for someone who knows 2000 going to 2300

>> No.17054812

>>17054810
But aren't I losing the nuance and understanding of the sentence? My brain is basically looking at familiar words and guessing. It's not like I have an English translation next to me to see if I was right or wrong

>> No.17054815

>>17054812
Doesn't matter. You're learning.

>> No.17054818
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>>17054812
Your brain is the pile of linear algebra in the middle, except instead of having to stir it, it stirs itself when you keep adding shit.

You don't gotta do jack. Your brain's gonna figure everything out fine.

>> No.17054828

>>17054815
How am I learning if I have no frame of reference for being right or wrong?

>>17054818
See, that makes sense for if I get feedback if I'm right or wrong, because your brain will adjust, but I could be totally wrong on some shit but be close enough that I never learn it's wrong.

>> No.17054838

>>17054828
The frame of reference is your past experiences.

>> No.17054840

>>17054828
That feedback is when you brain goes "does what I just read make sense?" internally. Which it does, otherwise you wouldn't be posting here. If it makes mistakes it's gonna run into inconsistencies in the stories it's reading. Also, humans have something called "universal grammar", which basically provides a framework for the most likely way for human languages to handle some things. Japanese is unlikely to violate UG, and you're unlikely to acquire language features that violate UG until your brain is sure they're real.

>> No.17054853

>>17054840
>Also, humans have something called "universal grammar", which basically provides a framework for the most likely way for human languages to handle some things. Japanese is unlikely to violate UG, and you're unlikely to acquire language features that violate UG until your brain is sure they're real.

One example of UG is operator precedence. With phrases like "not A or B", UG defines that the most likely interpretation is "not (A or B)". We know this because children and second language learners always assume that when they haven't acquired the language's proper operator precedence. Some languages, like Mandarin, don't have this operator precedence. In Mandarin, the precedence of that phrase is "(not A) or (B)". Children learning Mandarin use the universal interpretaion first, before they acquire the language-specific interpretation, which happens later than it should if it weren't at odds with UG.

Another example of UG is that languages should have at most one "rhotic" consonant. You can see this in American English, which despite having an alveolar flap, does not consider it rhotic, because it already has one of the two most rhotic sounds, the rhotic approximant (the other most rhotic sound is the post-alveolar trill). In almost every other language with an alveolar flap, such as Japanese, it is rhotic. The conception that there can only be one rhotic is so strong that American English speakers learning Japanese think they can't learn the alveolar flap, even though they use it all the time and it's totally natural to them, because it doesn't feel "rhotic" to them and they know the Japanese alveolar flap "is an 'r' so it should be rhotic". There are languages that violate this principle, but UG features are predispositions, not laws, just like with the operator precedence one.

This is the broad interpretation of UG. The strict interpretation of UG covers the machinery that human language has to work with, and is basically known. Syntactical recursion is one example of certain strict UG. All human languages must have syntactical recursion, otherwise they are codes, not languages, and humans must learn a native language to develop without neurological damage (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_deprivation ).

>> No.17054861

>>17054828
I'm pretty sure most people here will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that most of your guessing is correct, which is not a problem.

If you think you have an actual problem (like most of your guessing is incorrect or you've developed a misconception), post a random sentence and what you think it means, then ask for corrections.

>> No.17054878

>>17054874
>Couldn't I just be building a house of cards then? Misunderstandings built on misunderstandings?
Won't happen. If you get like 10% of the language right (which you will) then it'll be impossible to get the rest of the language wrong for too long.
>Also, wouldn't I only notice if it was pivotol to the story?
Nah, most of the time it's just going to be a subconscious nagging feeling. Get some self esteem. Your brain is literally rigged to do this. Otherwise you wouldn't have learned your native language.

>> No.17054885

>>17054882
Meant for >>17054874

>> No.17054904

>>17054878
I'll try to just be more confident I guess. It's just annoying when I finished a couple volumes of easy stuff, and I still don't remember basic shit.

Also, your parents constantly corrected you as a kid, didn't they?

>>17054882
I suppose. Thanks.

>> No.17054916

>>17054910
未練ない + 過ぎ
未練なさすぎ

>> No.17054920

>>17054910
I'm more interested in knowing what you thought なさす meant if you took the ぎ to be something separate

>> No.17054924

>>17054920
Maybe they thought
未練な さす ぎ

>> No.17054925

>>17054910
Don't use parsers. Alternatively rely on rikai less.

>> No.17054930

>>17054916
Where's the さ coming from here?

>> No.17054938

>>17054930
大きい
大きさ
赤い
赤さ
綺麗な
綺麗さ

>> No.17055010

>>17054990
Yeah I meant to say "used like this".

>> No.17055155

>>17054840
>>17054853
>UG
Go back to MIT, Chomsky.

>> No.17055163

>>17055155
go away imabi, you are a grammarian not a linguist

>> No.17055169

what's the difference between all the DoJGs? why would they make 3 books for grammar? do they all contain the same stuff but more complexly or what?

>> No.17055214

>>17055169
You can see for yourself at http://djt.neocities.org/bunpou/full_day.html

>> No.17055215

>>17055207
What kind of book is that?

>> No.17055224

>>17055207
"xにします" means "go for x"
see tae kim

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Is it wrong? Do I keep using this?

>> No.17055230

>>17055224
Ah I see. Thanks.
Then is it wrong for me to substitute に with へ?

>> No.17055232 [DELETED] 

>>17055207
Do you have a problem with their translation or are you just wondering about alternatives?

>> No.17055236

>>17055230
Well yeah, it's kind of like the difference between deciding 'on' something vs. 'towards' something.

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>>17055236
>>17055240
Thanks lads

>> No.17055254

>魚にしましょうか?
>魚を食べましょうか?
英語に直して

>> No.17055266

>>17055254
how about we do (decide on) fish?
how about we start fish?

>> No.17055267

>>17055241
Well, my point was that if you see a translation different than yours you shouldn't automatically assume yours are wrong or that there aren't alternatives.

The important thing is you understand how they got theirs (assuming its correct)

>> No.17055270

>>17055266
>start
eat*

>> No.17055271

>>17055254
Let's do at the fish?
Eat this fish now yes?.

>> No.17055287

>>17055271
Is this supposed to be funny?

>> No.17055392
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>>17055287
we got a fish hater

>> No.17055505

When does learning Japanese get easier?

>> No.17055580

>>17055505
>When does learning Japanese get easier?

After about a year

>> No.17055592

>教職を辞められるのですか?
>辞められるじゃなくて辞めさせられるだよ。
I know what this means but I'm confused about the first 辞められる. Why is it passive form? Shouldn't it be just 辞める?

>> No.17055596

>>17055592
きょうしょくより

きゅうしょくだよ

>> No.17055604

>>17055532

>> No.17055606

>>17055596
Nope.

>> No.17055608

>>17055532
wait wtf
its he saying it was a temp thing they ordered and asking for it again is impossible or am i way off

>> No.17055618

>>17055505
800 kanji in

>> No.17055626

Do the PDFs from the cor work on something like a kindle?

Reading on the PC seems rather uncomfortable.

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>金... ??と出かけない

Anyone know what this kanji is? Looks like 土 but that makes no sense. Might be some ryakuji or something?

>> No.17055693

>>17055674
エ?So it's like えと・・ but katakana for some reason.

Or 工 but that makes no sense

>> No.17055698

>>17055693
>>17055674
No actually on second thought it might be weekdays, she might be saying she has plans on friday and saturday, 金 and 土

>> No.17055699

>>17055674
"Looks like I'll have to go out Friday... and Saturday."

Anon, are you reading filthy netorare?

>> No.17055708

>>17055699

Oh fug of course, thought she was talking about needing to borrow some sweet かね or some shit.

>filthy netorare?

Sanbun Kyoden is amazing though, but fuck his handwriting.

>> No.17055781

>>17055626
Kindle reads PDFs but not very well. The best converter I've found is this one
http://www.willus.com/k2pdfopt/download/
But I've never used it for Japanese stuff.

>> No.17055782

>>17054445
yes

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>>17055612
>The uploader said it's from Chinese and that he doesn't even know Chinese.
in that case king me

>> No.17055812

>>17055806
>saying
something

>> No.17055820

>>17055806
ah i see, cheers

>> No.17055829

>tfw it takes 5-10 times longer to read anything now that I've switched to raw manga only with all the kanji lookups
Still worth not having to read all those shitty TLs.

>> No.17055833

>>17055829
instead you make your own

grass sure is greener

>> No.17056049

>>17055829
And the slowdown is only temporary.

>> No.17056880

>>17056049
It never stopped being temporary for me.

>> No.17056883

>>17056880
Time is a man-made concept.

>> No.17056903

>>17056883
actually time is as real as space and we scientifically know it

>> No.17056909

>>17056903
>science
>know
That's not how it works.

>> No.17056913

>>17056903
science is a man-made concept i only believe what the bible says

>> No.17056939

While mining words how do you know what to add?

For instance:

食べた

At first I only added 食

But I'm wondering if I should add

食 and
食べた and
食べる

>> No.17056951

>>17056939
Try learing grammar first.

>> No.17056968

>>17056951
I am. The Tae Kim guide said to basically learn the words as he introduces them. And those words are in the Kanji section.

>> No.17056969 [DELETED] 

>>17056939
holy moley yah you gotta hit up that tyler kim homie

>> No.17056979

>>17056968
I'm sorry to break it to you but, at and ate are the same word.

>> No.17056980

>>17056968
Add the dictionary form of the word. That means not 食べた and certainly not 食

>> No.17056985 [DELETED] 

>>17056973
>>17056969
Did you come here only to shitpost? Fuck off, redditor.

>> No.17056990 [DELETED] 

>>17056985
holy moley try holding back your sperg and being completely hypocritical and instead write useful posts

>> No.17057307

>>17056909
It is actually.

>> No.17057324

>>17057318
Go back to philosophy 101, you clearly didn't learn anything there.

>> No.17057329

>>17057319
No, it's called being pretty sure

>> No.17057330

わたしはゲイってことよく知ってるぜ

>> No.17057331

>>17057329
No, it's called knowing.

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>> No.17057340

>>17057331
Then how do you define being pretty sure?

>> No.17057341

>>17057340
Not really knowing.

>> No.17057466

>>17057401
in the case of nekoneko soft its been the running joke for more than 15 years to have the mc be kenji

>> No.17057643

>>17057343
Existential Comics is DJT now, it seems if you force a meme long enough it becomes part of the culture.

>> No.17057645

what's a good japanese imageboard to visit?

>> No.17057659

>>17057645
/b/

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