What happened to the older otaku?

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What happened to the older otaku? Anonymous Mon Mar 27 16:47:32 2017 No.16777456 [Reply] [Original]

I'd say there is a generational divide between the otaku from then and from now (if they can even be considered the same thing) because of several reasons, like the mass expansion of the internet or how previously niche industries have evolved. I'm really interested in how the first group fares nowadays.

The people who were in their 10-20s when Gunbuster was made are now in their 30-40s. I don't think they all either killed themselves or submitted to normalcy. What are they up to? Are they simply engaged with modern trends?

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>>16777456
>if they can even be considered the same thing
Why wouldn't they be? I believe that if you were to use the same definition for otaku now as you are for otaku then, then this apparent generational divide would merely amount to easier access to what used to be a niche industry due to the expansion of the internet.

Of course, with that comes increased exposure and the blurring of the definition of otaku which I assume is the cause of this apparent generational gap. Nowadays it is more difficult to differentiate between a dedicated "truotaku" and a casual who is considered otaku because of the blurred definition. True dedication was clearer back then; not just because of this blurred definition but also due to restricted access. If you use the same definition across both generations then the gap would mostly disappear.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 17:45:27 2017 No.16777706 >>16777456 They are still otaku, just working boring ass office jobs or appliance stores I actually met a group of them aged 35-42 now that I meet up with whenever I am in town.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 22:06:11 2017 No.16778744

I sort of evolved from Trek fan for 15 20 years to anime maybe 8 years ago.

Love collecting dakis and traveling. No family. Huge house and more disposable income that I know what to do with.

Just don't really collect and get INTO it or pretty much anything in the last 5 or so years.

We are still here and alive, but more often than not, we are just tired and done all the things you guys did before. Its just... Ehh.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 22:19:42 2017 No.16778806 >>16778744 But you're not an older Otaku, you are an old "trekkie" lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 22:26:41 2017 No.16778842 >>16778806 Trekkies are the proto-otaku, show some respect

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 22:47:29 2017 No.16778945 Why was my thread about old anime deleted? >>16778744 How old are you?

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 22:49:29 2017 No.16778963

Abnormal, asocial people still have to keep the lights on, and this was before the recent facilitation of NEETing in several Western countries.

So:
1. They dedicated more time to work, and indulged in otaku tangents on the side
2. They dedicated less time to work, and have more meager but more plentiful time for consumption
3. They didn't work, and either found a way to be a dependent, or met/idle meeting a rather poor fate

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 23:24:58 2017 No.16779160 >>16778842 >>16778806 That's right, Sit the fuck down Boy 'O.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 23:36:40 2017 No.16779222 >>16778842 No, otaku is a japanese phenomenon, something you will neber be a part of you stupid fucking white kid

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 23:57:12 2017 No.16779307

>>16777456
From what I've read and heard, most people are into anime for about 12 to 18 months. People who were into anime 10 years ago would have gotten out around the time the Lehman Brothers got it's NYC coroner's toe tag.

Your assumption that most old "otaku" are now leading "normal" live is sound. Most are probably selling insurance or pushing add-on packages to cell plans at the strip mall.

Life is boring when you invest your time in other's interesting stories.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 00:05:39 2017 No.16779331
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>>16777456
>I don't think they all either killed themselves or submitted to normalcy.

Their parents died and they inherited their home. i imagine that's how they gained their independence as social retards.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 00:08:49 2017 No.16779344 guys I hate my life...

OP !!1fx/qz3kz+z Tue Mar 28 00:33:02 2017 No.16779420 [DELETED]

>>16778744
>I sort of evolved from Trek fan for 15 20 years to anime maybe 8 years ago.
D'you think that was your final evolution?
I was the other way round. I started on anime ~20 years ago, and have only recently(6/7 years ago) started getting into sci-fi stuff.

>Love collecting dakis
Nice!
>and traveling.
NICE! D'you travel alone? Where are you planning to go next? I'm saving to go to Laos, Cambodia, Thailand and maybe Vietnam. I want to stay out there for at least a month or so.

>Huge house and more disposable income than I know what to do with.
Did you inherit all that, or are you a working man?

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 00:35:22 2017 No.16779427

>>16778744
>I sort of evolved from Trek fan for 15 20 years to anime maybe 8 years ago.
D'you think that was your final evolution?
I was the other way round. I started on anime ~20 years ago, and have only recently(6/7 years ago) started getting into sci-fi stuff.

>Love collecting dakis
Nice!
>and traveling.
NICE!
D'you travel alone? Where are you planning to go next? I'm saving to go to Laos, Cambodia, Thailand and maybe Vietnam. I want to stay out there for at least a month or so.

>Huge house and more disposable income than I know what to do with.
Did you inherit all that, or are you a working man?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 01:04:24 2017 No.16779510 File: 624 KB, 773x720, tmp_21584-1479002417168-1052154510.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16778842 Star Trek is for fucking normies, old man

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 02:08:34 2017 No.16779740
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>>16777456
>What are they up to? Are they simply engaged with modern trends?
Right before Kio wrapped up Genshiken Nidaime, he kicked off one of the last chapters with a pub scene where all of the original Genshiken club members meet up over drinks.

Their conversation, up to and including where Madarame excoriates them for turning into riajuu, is in my opinion a good portrait of what the earlier generations of otaku are like now. They're no longer undergrads with the free time required for holding endless meetings about Kujibiki Unbalance or planning for Comiket. They're adults - most of what they're talking about is finances, work or their girlfriends.

But they're still otaku. The original Genshiken crew aren't taking selfies to show how they're #adulting like a boss. They're dealing with the responsibilities of life and finding opportunities to weave in their old interests wherever possible. Kugayama is going to a hostess bar because one of their girls on staff is an otaku who does cosplay. Tanaka happily indulges Kugayama's request for a cosplay outfit for this hostess. Sasahara and Kousaka both work in otaku industries. Madarame's cheaper apartment is also a 15 minute Metro ride to Akiba station. And excepting Kousaka and Kugayama, they all wind up dating fellow otaku.

The idea of the otaku as a socially retarded, filthy and possibly obese kimo-ota is the extreme. People like that do exist - Kuchiki remains a combative autist right up until he graduates - but for most people, otaku shit is at most an ongoing hobby. This is not a behaviour that's particularly unique in the first world: trekkies have been mentioned in this thread and you have elderly greasers who stole cars for joyrides in the 50s that still turn over the motor of their immaculate '59 Hudson every summer. Likewise, I can't spend literal days obsessively saving and tagging pictures from Pixiv anymore, but I still dip my toes back into dojin culture when I'm on holiday.

tl;dr in the end, we all learn how to find opportunities to graze amidst the bullet hell that is modern life in late capitalism.

>>16779307
>Most are probably selling insurance or pushing add-on packages to cell plans at the strip mall.
I've personally never met an anime/manga otaku that thrived in sales or customer service.

Gamers, sure. But my experience is that we all tend to go into CS, chemistry, armed forces or civil/mechanical engineering.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 02:14:33 2017 No.16779761 File: 116 KB, 338x295, fucking riajuu 2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16779510 Respect your freakin' elders, nerdboy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 02:26:14 2017 No.16779799 >>16779510 star trek is pretty normie compared to the stuff otakus watch you could watch star trek in front of normies without their being an atmosphere of cringe. you can't say that about the shit otakus watch

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 02:28:30 2017 No.16779805 >>16779761 Lmao maybe I'd respect early comiket artists or those who went to old-school gainax ryokan meet ups, but not some fuckin mainstream startrek fuccboi You belong on the Big Bang Theroy as the butt of a poorly executed joke

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 02:32:47 2017 No.16779821 File: 116 KB, 575x512, tmp_21584-1490108970112(2)1401388289.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16779805 Forgot my anime girl pic This is my face when I find out that there are ''''''trekies'''''' on my /jp/

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 02:34:27 2017 No.16779824 File: 260 KB, 600x337, fak u.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16779805 >You belong on the Big Bang Theroy as the butt of a poorly executed joke

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 02:38:14 2017 No.16779834 >>16779799 Back when Trekkies were a thing, otaku were watching Space Battleship Yamato and Mobile Suit Gundam. It didn't start being all about girls until later.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 02:40:58 2017 No.16779847

>>16777456
I'm 32 and a NEET virgin who lives with his parents. And that isn't even the saddest part of my life.

But here's the thing: being an otaku had nothing to do with it. I have several friends the same age (who I rarely see these days) who were bigger otaku than I am. They are quite successful. They're married, having kids soon, have good jobs, are in good health, and overall are some of the upstanding citizens of the country.

What made the difference between them and me? A lot of things, but the biggest one is I was afraid. And over time I let that fear make me weak.

Now it seems like 40 will be here any day, and there's not enough time left to live before my body starts to break down completely.

What am I up to now? Trying to make up for lost time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 02:44:37 2017 No.16779852 >>16779799 I don't know... there were some years where Trek was really out of style.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 03:01:45 2017 No.16779889 >>16779847 If you still want it, you can have it. Try really hard. You will definitely accomplish something. Otherwise stay /jp/ and take it easy!

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 03:20:05 2017 No.16779930

>>16779847
Well, suit yourself. I know that if I got married and tried to have friends and stuff, I'd regret the time I could have spent just chilling out doing nothing, just like I always have. Any social interaction or whatever is just an annoyance and a distraction from my free time. That's why I like to live as cheaply as possible while still being able to enjoy the digital luxury of the 21st century.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 04:20:51 2017 No.16780070 >>16779930 Truly. This is a time for a common man to live like a king. If only we could deal with the need for food and shelter... I would never leave /jp/ and my house.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 04:51:38 2017 No.16780144 >>16779930 I had your exact same viewpoint in my early 20s. I regret it more than anything else in life. One day the internet, the porn, the games, the shows... they'll all seem hollow.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 05:07:13 2017 No.16780171 >>16780144 Probably because it is a cheap life? Why would it come as a surprise though?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 05:11:39 2017 No.16780175 >>16780144 Have you tried going to /ic/ and dedicating your life there? Do it. It will help you, guaranteed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 05:15:20 2017 No.16780181 >>16779930 >annoyance and a distraction from my free time I had to explain to a psychologist that I didn't like porn or have interest in relationships for those reasons. He backed off the question, but I don't think he really understood.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 05:15:28 2017 No.16780182 >>16777456 If you were 15 when gunbuster came out, you'd be about 44 now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 05:17:13 2017 No.16780183 >>16780175 Is there anything like that but music related?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 05:17:53 2017 No.16780184 While tales from your personal life are an amusing diversion from the OP, do try to keep it in moderation.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 05:27:15 2017 No.16780199

I always think of those successful guys like ZUN or ABe. Okay they may be creators more than obsessive otaku, but I think they've done a good job balancing the 2D world with their real families. And having other hobbies outside of drawing girls. And money.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 05:30:09 2017 No.16780206

>>16780183
If you want to make or just listen to good music, ask /mu/ how to mix music and just casually listen or upload it to soundcloud or youtube.
After that, pray that it will "kick in" and go viral, which is not likely but is still something.

I prefer drawing since it's more consistent and keeps you much busier than music. Just pick whichever you want and make sure you at least enjoy or like it.
And I only decided to learn drawing because I just want to illustrate my shitty web novel.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 08:37:15 2017 No.16780695

>>16777456
Guess you're referring to anime otaku of the compulsive buying variety, given the picture.

These guys weren't all that different from the current otaku that buy a ton of merchandise really. Most just calm down after a while because collecting all this shit is expensive, not to mention the problem of storing it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 09:01:07 2017 No.16780781 >>16779740 I've met a few that work in high end audio shops.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 10:42:21 2017 No.16781252

>>16780144
When you get older, it will all seem hollow, especially your family. Your kids are exciting when young, but then you realize they are just another flawed person like yourself. Your wife will become stale after spending so many years with her. Your beloved pets will die. Eventually you will die, but before you do, you'll realize that nothing you experienced mattered because it will all be gone along with you, soon enough.

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Anonymous Tue Mar 28 11:29:21 2017 No.16781428

>>16780144
Getting close to 30 now and I just wish I could rest and go back to the way I was 10 years ago, not caring about becoming a better person, just wasting my time all day. I don't want to try anymore, but now I have to. Have to contribute money, have to pay for medical expenses, etc. That's what feels hollow to me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 11:31:48 2017 No.16781430 >>16777456 I assume they're still here, but are just in the minority.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 11:44:02 2017 No.16781470

You mean like Japanese otaku, or you mean older /jp/?

I've been here (pre-split /a/) since I was 14 or 15 and I'm 26 now. Nothing has changed, except I have JLPT N1 and live in Japan now.

I still watch anime, read VNs, etc...

If you mean Japanese otaku, they're either burned out, in hiding, or you'll find them at comiket. Some of those people have been there for fucking ever.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 11:57:54 2017 No.16781514
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I'm still dedicated to otaku culture but instead of accumulating physical items (don't worry I still have a lot of stuff) I'm more interested in encouraging otaku social circles. I helped found a YouTube series on shmups/STG, involved in presenting panels on Japanese mahjong, and helping to organize Dollfie Dream meetups/admin the Discord chat. Now that I have a full time job and am married now, I have less time for consumption as a I did in the past. But I'm no less passionate, I think I'm even more so now that I know I have less and less time.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 11:58:29 2017 No.16781518

>>16777456
>I'd say there is a generational divide between the otaku from then and from now (if they can even be considered the same thing) because of several reasons, like the mass expansion of the internet or how previously niche industries have evolved. I'm really interested in how the first group fares nowadays.
No generational divide. I'm 41 and most of my friends (online) are in their 20s. Technology is pretty much an absolute in my life, since I don't have the desire to communicate or socialize with normal folks because they're uninteresting and callous. It's the gateway to not just my hobbies but the world.

I'm actually happier with my hobby life than I've ever been. Animation (though not story) has improved, gaming, quality of collectibles... all of it. I think there's plenty of us around. Many might not identify themselves as elders because we don't want to be the dads at the party.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 12:00:13 2017 No.16781525 >>16781514 >encouraging otaku social circles Get out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 12:00:43 2017 No.16781530 >>16781518 >I'm 41 I'm still in my mid 20s and I feel out of touch on 4chan and I've nearly literally spent half of my life here. I can't imagine what the hell you must feel like.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 12:06:44 2017 No.16781547

>>16781530
I don't feel out of touch at all. I mean, what do you feel out of touch with? Evolving trends? I only pay attention to the ones that interest me and if they are, by definition, interesting then they're really not hard to keep up with because I enjoy doing so.

Out of touch with people? Meh. I'm close with my family. I have a couple IRL friends but no one I really hang out with on a regular basis. I went through a bit where I felt kinda isolated but then I actually tried to befriend a few people (work colleagues) and they reminded me why I'm not into that.

I keep up with anime by seasons, games and VNs through here and a handful of blogs and stalkable Twitters. I used to be a hardcore figure collector and I still consider myself one but I'm NEET at the moment so I don't torture myself with new preorders I can't afford like I did when I had an income. That shit'll change when I'm working again.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 12:08:31 2017 No.16781558 >>16781525 don't worry, we'll all be out soon enough

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 12:11:52 2017 No.16781573

>what do you feel out of touch with? Evolving trends?
The huge change in 4chan demographics. The new memes that I don't find funny at all (spamming wojack and pepe). I'm turning into an old grump.

That said, I keep up with seasonal anime and VNs like you. It's just I don't relate to many anons anymore because my life stage is so different from these high school/college students.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 12:12:56 2017 No.16781577 >>16781518 The only people that care about your age are children, women, the cops, and yourself

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 12:19:51 2017 No.16781597
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>>16781470
Ugh, I've spent over 8 years of my life shit posting here...

None of my VN or doujin ideas ever materialized
Maybe I should go get married and become a family man or something

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 12:22:48 2017 No.16781603 >>16781597 Or maybe you should stop wasting your time and actually get shit done.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 12:23:10 2017 No.16781607

From like the 70s through 80s or maybe most of the way through TNG or after it ended being a Trekkie definitely wasn't mainstream. They were the butt of jokes as many wondered how someone could be so into that dumb little show from the 60s.

They, DnD nerds, Star Wars or maybe KISS fanatics were the known extent of any given fandom here. With DnD/tabletop game fans getting the moral panic end of it that otaku did, often being tied to the Satanist panic that was going on.

Keep in mind we're not just talking about people who watch the show. We're talking about the ones who collect all the toys, go to the conventions, have a replica costume, speak Klingon, etc. That's a Trekkie and it was never mainstream until relatively recently with the release of post-TNG movies, Patrick Stewart's stardom and likability and all the geek pandering and shows like Big Bang Theory making it somewhat acceptable.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 12:26:02 2017 No.16781614

>>16781597
I don't spend nearly as much time here as I used to. Usually I just talk to a couple of internet friends I've known even longer than I've been on 4chan. (One is /pol/ and one is weeab)

It'd probably do you good to take a break from /jp/ and try something else for a bit before coming back. (study programming, drawing, get /fit/ etc...) Being here and only here gets stale and depressing after a while.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 12:30:39 2017 No.16781638 >>16781603 How do I stop wasting time here and get motivated?

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 12:34:49 2017 No.16781654

>>16781638
Have you tried picking up a different hobby? Somthing out doors? Try hiking or mountain biking. Plain old camping is good to. Don't need to spend a lot of money eather if you don't want to. Start working out will also give you energy as well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 12:43:15 2017 No.16781687 >>16781614 >>16781654 Yeah alright Maybe I'll finally fight my internet addiction and practice my drawing skills and work out more like I've always wanted. Then I can finally become a content creator instead of consumer

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 12:44:19 2017 No.16781695 >>16781374 Yes

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 12:45:30 2017 No.16781698 >>16781687 Or just kill yourself and save us from your pity seeking blog posts

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 12:47:50 2017 No.16781713

>>16781607
>With DnD/tabletop game fans getting the moral panic end of it that otaku did, often being tied to the Satanist panic that was going on.
Man, that was an actual thing that happened, huh?

>>16781638
Literally stop using the Internet, no joke

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 12:49:04 2017 No.16781718 >>16781713 Are you 15? Dumbass faggot

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 12:49:22 2017 No.16781720
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>>16777456
>The people who were in their 10-20s when Gunbuster was made are now in their 30-40s
Mate, 1990 was 27 years ago.
If they were in their 10-20s at this time these people will be edging on 40-50 by now.

Go sit and think about your mortality for a while.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 12:53:16 2017 No.16781744 >>16777456 I fucking hate anyone who calls themselves an otaku like it's some positive thing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 12:58:33 2017 No.16781773 >>16781718 >Are you 15? Dumbass faggot If you think I'm joking, I'm not - I quit the Internet for a month last year while election shit was at its peak. I didn't go on 4chan once and during that time I read more books than I usually read in two years.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 13:00:44 2017 No.16781786 >>16781773 Fuck off underage faggot, this isn't your personal livejournal

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 13:02:18 2017 No.16781794

>>16781577
Yeah, I've always kinda looked at it like that. I don't know if everybody does but it's never been an issue for me.

Sometimes my young bros will say something or react to a situation where I know it's a lack of life experience informing their perspective but it's not my place to correct people or give unsolicited advice. I'm sure there's a reverse side to that, though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 13:05:05 2017 No.16781806 >>16781786 Not him, so chill, but this is kind of an otaku blog thread so unless the shit gets deleted he is technically posting on-topic. ...in an off-topic thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 13:08:48 2017 No.16781818 >>16781806 A metathread a day keeps the jan-jan at bay

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 13:12:39 2017 No.16781833 >>16778842 If otaku replaced trekkies, what do you suppose will be the replacement for otaku?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 13:18:42 2017 No.16781860 >>16781833 There is no replacement, otaku just means fanatic, it does not revolve around a single form of media like trekkies, you idiot

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 13:22:19 2017 No.16781883

>>16781773
I'm going to chime in here.

Shitposting is a bad idea if you are trying to get motivated to do something. Like, right now, I should really be studying for a professional license but I'm shitposting. If I unplugged my computer I know I'd be more productive.

That said, shitposting when you're actually already engaged in something has seemed fruitful in that you do get your requisite humanity fix here and you can argue with someone and it's not your boss and you can laugh with someone and that's a stress reliever, as well.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 13:26:47 2017 No.16781908

>>16781860
>otaku just means fanatic, it does not revolve around a single form of media like trekkies, you idiot
Actually usually there's a modifier in place. You are an anime otaku or an eroge otaku or a train otaku or a military otaku. Otaku is a generic term. In the West, because otaku is a Japanese word so the people that identify with it or use it generally reside under "Japanese Pop Culture" otaku umbrella, hence the association.

You're right about otaku meaning fanatic, though. But take it a step further, if you tell someone, "I'm a fanatic," then the next logical question is always going to be, "What kind of fanatic are you?"

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 13:30:57 2017 No.16781921 >>16781744 >hate self hating is so edgy

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 13:33:48 2017 No.16781931 >>16781908 Your point being? Otaku just means fanatic, you went in a fucking circle to agree with me. Were you just that desperate to say something?

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 13:48:33 2017 No.16781996

>>16781931
You didn't read what I said. I'll simplify since you seem absolutely hellbent on arguing with people.

Here we go:

1. Otaku means a specific kind of fanatic, so you jumping that other dude's shit was wrong. It absolutely can revolve around one form of media or interest.

2. But you're right that it means fanatic.

You good now?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 13:52:41 2017 No.16782011 I'm a friend-making otaku

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:07:14 2017 No.16782061

>>16781996
No, otaku itself does not revolve around any single thing, it simply means fanatic. That's why you need to append a subject to it, unlike the term trekkie, which simply means a star trek fan(atic). Is there an airplane trekkie? A soiled panty trekkie? Fucking dense homo.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:07:43 2017 No.16782062 [DELETED]

I use to be big at hooking up with 12 to 15year old girls who lived near me who I met in second life in my mid 30s. The sex was great and we went hiking etc. Then I just started gravitating away from the computer. The kids I knew became adults, two died from med issues and a overdose. Eventually it was down to only text on holidays then nothing.

I don't really even watch anime anymore and I wonder why I come around and still collect pretty official and fan art of anime girls.

I am pretty much at a spaghetti junction in my life. I feel too old and to keep persuing young teenage girls on games online and too lazy to start up sexual relationships with them from scratch. It seems like they are too protected and have little free time now. Also, its all mobile gaming and social network shit which I don't subscribe too. I miss the days we could stay up all night and chat and do fun things online. Mobile just can't be the same.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:09:49 2017 No.16782070 >>16782061 >can't articulate himself >gets mad when people misunderstand him Dude.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:10:56 2017 No.16782075 >>16782070 This desperate for interaction? Keep arguing in circles.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:11:36 2017 No.16782078 >>16782062 >two died from med issues and a overdose. Ever think maybe you fucked those into them? Fuck off. Ephebophilia is not otaku culture.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:12:38 2017 No.16782083 >>16782075 >Keep arguing in circles. That's you, though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:13:28 2017 No.16782089 >>16782083 Enjoy being ignored.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:14:08 2017 No.16782093 >>16782089 K.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:18:58 2017 No.16782107 [DELETED]

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>>16782078
>anime isn't all 11 to 18 year old cute girls. ... Not into ephebophelia.

Are you kidding me?! I am laughing my ass off how blatantly incorrect your statement is in relation to most modern shows. You have got to be pulling our legs and I am not even him!

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:20:14 2017 No.16782112 >>16782107 >modern That's where you made your mistake, but can we expect anything else from some idiot born after 1990??

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:21:34 2017 No.16782115 [DELETED]

>>16782107
You're legitimately talking about grooming and molesting real girls, you fucking weirdo.

This isn't the place for you. At least the ephebophiles here understand that it's NOT FUCKING RELEVANT and try to stay on topic.

Go the fuck back to wherever you came from.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:21:45 2017 No.16782117 >>16782107 Who are you even quoting, mr. crossie?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:22:11 2017 No.16782119 >>16782115 we don't want YOU here

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:23:02 2017 No.16782124 >>16782107 >image macro >embarrassing ignorance of the basics of board culture >>>/b/

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:24:04 2017 No.16782131 >>16782119 >>>/r9k/ Good luck out there, sport.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:25:10 2017 No.16782142 >>16782107 It's fiction you turbonigger, just because i like reimu doesn't mean I'd fuck an actual 16 year old girl, off yourself

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:25:34 2017 No.16782144 >>16782107 >DO WANT Is this asshole serious?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:26:56 2017 No.16782146 File: 773 KB, 190x180, 1243743010318.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hyper-Sexualizing barely pubescent children has always been a pillar of the anime/manga/idol/gravure etc otaku community.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:27:26 2017 No.16782147 >>16782131 that board was created for your kind god bless

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:28:12 2017 No.16782149 >>16782146 And it's not the fucking topic of this thread, get the fuck out

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:29:41 2017 No.16782155 >>16782146 So you're one of those autists that can't separate 2D from 3D, huh? No, we definitely don't want you here. I'm gonna go ahead and put in my fuck off right about now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:30:04 2017 No.16782158 >>16782146 Where is that in the super dimensional space fortress macross????

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:31:11 2017 No.16782161 >>16782149 >>16782155 Ruh-roh! Someone got the SJW all riled up >_>

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:32:25 2017 No.16782169 >>16782149 Yeah? Well someone brought it up. Its ok to go OT if it still has some relation to OPs topic. I miss the days of Usenet thread management.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:32:28 2017 No.16782170 >>16782161 You're so out of line right now it's incredible. Anyone reading this whose been here longer than a week is cringing right now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:32:54 2017 No.16782172 File: 19 KB, 400x400, 1486308863331.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16782161 >SJW Can you be any more retarded than that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:33:30 2017 No.16782176 >>16782169 You're fucking retarded. STOP POSTING.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:33:36 2017 No.16782177 >>16782170 >This is how 4chan newfags think Yeah and you have the community's pulse right under your finger right

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:35:13 2017 No.16782181 Thanks janny

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:37:37 2017 No.16782190 File: 533 KB, 580x773, 1489800472121.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Oh boy. Now all the old fucks are going to say... N.. No! We don't like kids but... Face it you guys, ya like kids. Kids are sexy and fun and that's fine.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:45:43 2017 No.16782235 >>16781470 I meant Japanese otaku because there isn't any other kind of otaku. I didn't expect or wanted all these replies of westerners blogging about their personal experiences.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 15:03:16 2017 No.16782308

>>16782235
>there isn't any other kind of otaku
Well, that's been established as bullshit by all parties.
>I didn't expect or wanted all these replies of westerners blogging about their personal experiences.
What exactly where you expecting? Do you realize this is an English website full of everyone BUT who you're saying you wanted a response from? Or are you just being a backpedaling faggot because shit got heated between the autists for a minute?

Kuso thread.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 15:12:59 2017 No.16782339

>>16782308
>Well, that's been established as bullshit by all parties.
Says you.

>>16782308
>What exactly where you expecting?
A discussion about the current situation of older Japanese otaku, from people that have met, talked to, or read about them, offline (in Japan) or online (in Japanese sites). I expected either a dead thread or at most 10-15 replies because it's not a topic most people can contribute to. Had I known this would happen I wouldn't have created the thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 15:25:10 2017 No.16782382 >>16782339 Then delete it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 15:32:01 2017 No.16782399 >>16782382 We can't delete our own threads anymore. It's been like this for a few years.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 15:41:47 2017 No.16782438 >>16782382 fucking newfag trash

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 15:46:03 2017 No.16782457

>>16781833
Delete this retarded post.

>>16782061
You know exactly what he's trying to say, and instead of ignoring his stupid question you decided to engage in a pointless argument of semantics. The definition has been blurred, so either accept the terms for what they are and have a meaningful discussion or shut the fuck up.

>>16781744
It's trendy. And had that not been the case, are you saying that to a "truotaku" being otaku is not and should not be a positive thing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 15:57:29 2017 No.16782500 Stop the terrible cycle of child raping degenerate homosexuals and the otaku fandom. I'm tired of everyone giving the creators of characters a big "fuck you" and making them futa (men)

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 16:00:52 2017 No.16782518

>>16782339
>A discussion about the current situation of older Japanese otaku
Again, faggot, why would you post here looking for that?
>I expected either a dead thread or at most 10-15 replies
How the fuck would anybody be able to peer inside your head and know from your opening post that you 1. expected a dead thread, 2. wanted only Japanese people to reply because you think the word "otaku" only applies to Nips even though you're posting on a board called "Otaku Culture" on an English website of which there is a direct correlative Japanese website UPON WHICH IT IS BASED.

Dude, you're fucking duuuumb AND lying.

I understand you didn't want a shitstorm but you should know how the mongoloids here are and if you don't, you shouldn't be making threads.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 16:03:59 2017 No.16782534

>>16782518
>2. wanted only Japanese people to reply
No, he wanted 3rd party hearsay from English people about Japanese people, even though by his definition none of us are otaku and it isn't applicable so we really have no understanding of the term.

Still retarded.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 16:24:16 2017 No.16782601

>>16782518
>Again, faggot, why would you post here looking for that?
Because this is the "otaku culture" board, and therefore is the correct board for the discussion of the otaku subcultural phenomenon as it extends from the beginning of otaku into the present day.

>I understand you didn't want a shitstorm but you should know how the mongoloids here are
We've had these threads many, many times before and it's generally been understood that we're referring to a Japanese cultural phenomenon. Given his reference to Gunbuster it becomes twice as obvious that he was referring to first-generation Japanese otaku. He was talking about "them", not "us."

There's an argument to be had about whether "otaku" describes a specific Japanese subcultural phenomenon or should be understood to encompass all fans of Japanese media culture but the issue is very much not "established as bullshit by all parties."

>>16782534
If somebody wants a discussion of the history of doujin culture, he wants your third-party knowledge of the history of Comiket and your third-party knowledge of how the scene got started, not comments on how you tried to get your amateur fanfiction published in ye olde anime fanzine - it might be interest in context or as a comparison, but it's not the primary purpose of the thread. This isn't about your "lived experiences." Most threads aren't. >>16779740 is one of the only people doing it right.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 16:27:44 2017 No.16782617 >>16782457 What he is trying to say is what I already said, numbnuts. I'm calling him out on unneeded intrusion. Reading comprehension much? You probably still haven't finished high school.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 16:34:11 2017 No.16782636

>>16779740
Goddamn, I could never finish Genshiken, for that reason specifically. It all became shitty romance and drama and the characters "developed" into worse people than they began as. Even Madarame became a crypto-riajuu by nidaime, no matter how much he denied it. It was too fucking depressing, man.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 16:49:50 2017 No.16782676

>>16781654
Recovering full-time hikki here. Going outside really does help. I'd shut myself in for so long I'd forgotten how much I used to enjoy being outside, and once I started spending a few days just lying around in the desert, with nobody around of course since I still can't deal with other people, I managed to put my life in perspective and regained a sense of time I'd lost in my years of seclusion. Realizing like that how much time you've wasted can be a good motivator, if you can get over the feeling of hopelessness that comes with it.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 16:58:19 2017 No.16782706 [DELETED]

>>16782601
You just made up a lot of shit, fampai.

That was an epic load of horse kaka.

>>16782601
>We've had these threads many, many times before and it's generally been understood that we're referring to a Japanese cultural phenomenon.
Absolutely wrong. These threads are always interspersed with personal experiences.

Stop pushing fake news.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 17:00:54 2017 No.16782719 >>16782706 >fake news Back to Plebbit with you, you normie buzzword spouting faggot

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 17:10:09 2017 No.16782756

>>16782457
>And had that not been the case, are you saying that to a "truotaku" being otaku is not and should not be a positive thing?
It's generally a self-deprecatory thing, as well as a point of pride. A highly-evolved form of sour grapes, basically. By calling yourself an otaku you're not necessarily hating yourself but are labeling yourself as something generally considered worthy of hate by everybody else, and by taking pride in it you're saying "fuck you" to all of them and insisting you're better off this way, whether or not you really are. It's only positive because it would be crushing to ever allow yourself to think it might not be positive.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 17:11:25 2017 No.16782762
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>>16782676
>I managed to put my life in perspective and regained a sense of time I'd lost in my years of seclusion. Realizing like that how much time you've wasted can be a good motivator, if you can get over the feeling of hopelessness that comes with it.
You are giving me hope. Thank you very much.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 17:12:49 2017 No.16782772 >>16782762 You're just a waste of space, regardless of whatever delusion you end up believing

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 17:14:57 2017 No.16782781 File: 91 KB, 652x720, new_game_026.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16782772 You're right, I'll have to do my best!!

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 17:16:10 2017 No.16782787

>>16782706
>You just made up a lot of shit, fampai.
Try responding to the statements inside the actual post instead of making inflammatory shitposts containing sweeping denials.

>These threads are always interspersed with personal experiences.
This is an individual, specific thread, inquiring as to the whereabouts of Japanese first-generation otaku. This is clear both from reading the OP and following up on what OP had to say later.

Threads about otaku culture in general are almost always about Japanese otaku culture - trends in the culture, trends in the industry, evolution of Japanese net culture, and the like. See threads like >>12098843 or >>16170418 - people do share personal experiences, but they never declare that they are the otaku people want to learn about when they ask about "otaku culture."

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 17:19:22 2017 No.16782798 >>16782781 Easy enough to type, but you'll just end up giving up when you realize how pointless it is. You won't be amounting to anything.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 17:22:27 2017 No.16782811 >>16782798 Nobody can really read the future, so just check up on him in a year or three and see if his life has changed at all. That'll be the final word.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 17:26:12 2017 No.16782829 >>16782811 It won't. I'm telling you right now. You'd be a fool to think otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 18:04:19 2017 No.16783013 >>16777456 Why do people think [buying alot of goods] = [high level otaku]? I'm not saying "wasting money on trash lmao", but personally I see no real reason to collect Figurines and other such "goods". So why is this?

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 18:08:46 2017 No.16783033

>>16782756
What about all those weebs or dare I say actual Japanese people that say they are "otaku" cause they think its cool to label yourself as one and have no general understanding what such a label "means" or what the general public views them as?
(eg. weebs saying neko nyan, no im not a nerd, i am otaku)

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 18:12:30 2017 No.16783050 Where did all these retards come from?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 18:14:36 2017 No.16783059 >>16781374 Yes, he's just saying that cause he's japanese and doesn't want anything to do with politics. The age gap though, I dunno

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 18:17:17 2017 No.16783069 File: 901 KB, 1837x653, 1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16783050

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 18:17:24 2017 No.16783071

>>16783033
Weeb isn't a demeaning word anymore. It's like calling someone a gamer 10 years ago. I've come across Japanese in their mid 20s to early 30s that have labeled me as otaku as in, "oh, you are otaku??" in response to my knowledge level when discussing things like anime (typically touched upon when comparing our youths) or chika idols. It was always in a non disparaging way because they would let me know "I am otaku also" or " I am X otaku" after lighting up at a foreigner being enthused about something Japanese. We'd then start shooting the shit over X subject.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 18:21:39 2017 No.16783095

>>16783071
>Weeb isn't a demeaning word anymore.
Noted.

>I've come across Japanese in their mid 20s to early 30s that have labeled me as otaku
> It was always in a non disparaging way
Never had this encounter with Japanese people outside of "otaku-related meetups", at least not a good one. I was always bashed for being knowledgeable and I have now given up ever bringing my otaku-related hobbies to others, much like life back in my home country.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 18:26:03 2017 No.16783114 >>16783095 Sorry, meant otaku, not weeb. How are you approaching or meeting these people?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 18:27:33 2017 No.16783122 >>16783114 Are you asking me about my normie activities such as partying and drinking?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 18:31:43 2017 No.16783141 >>16783122 Oh, I mean are you just coming out like HEY YOU GUYS I AM ANIME OTAKU at these partying events?

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 18:36:38 2017 No.16783165

>>16783141
No never! The few times I ever talked about anime or anything the like, it was merely correcting that a specific song wasn't from X series, but Y series instead. And as we stayed on the topic I was eventually called out on being an "otaku" and　残念、オタク興味ないなぁ. I would never speak openly about my own hobbies to people I haven't know for a really good while. Just talking about anime gives me cringe attacks for whatever reason, reminds me of all my weeb encounters thus far.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 18:40:33 2017 No.16783176
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The oldschool otaku culture had cool shit like Macross and Urusei Yatsura to draw upon, plus scores more cool shows, and was pretty creative (e.g. Gainax, Daicon and other opening animations created for various cons by fans, garage kits...). Creativity is still around, like Touhou and shit, but different.

Moe has been around for a while, but never as much as today and older sci-fi, mecha, etc. otaku are not always going to be into that stuff.

With regard to the western scene in particular, much of the mystique of anime is not there any more. In the old days, anime was a cult of fansubs, Usenet discussion, university anime clubs, and an underground feeling. These folks handcrafted homepages in html, wrote FAQs, subscribed to anime 'zines, and other such occult activities. The culture now is different, the fix is almost to easy to get, normies have invaded, cookie cutter blogs and social media lack the rustic charm of web 1.0, and so on.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 18:41:32 2017 No.16783180 >>16783165 Well, people don't like being corrected. That's on you. Guy defended himself by using your bait and used it as a threat and I bet you didn't bother to respond in kind.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 18:45:14 2017 No.16783191

>>16783180
Hmm, that might be the case but I myself just saw it as a sudden 180 as soon as I showed even a little bit of anime interest. It was a girl btw, not that it matters much.
Hope I can come to have better encounters in the future, I'm not a very rude person, so I wouldn't believe that is the main cause (Japanese people aren't edgy enough to get butthurt if you correct them anyways lmao)

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 18:54:10 2017 No.16783221 >>16783191 They're just like any other person, anon.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 18:57:40 2017 No.16783230

>>16783221
Being a little rascist here but, comparing Japan to other places I have lived (Italy, France, Sweden) I think Japanese people are VERY conflict afraid and almost never start a discussion and/or debate and merely turtle-shells or moves on to another subject. And this is just not me, I have many friends, even Japanese people that believe this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 18:58:58 2017 No.16783236 >>16783230 What they say and how they act is different.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 19:02:57 2017 No.16783255 >>16783176 This guy gets it This sort of stuff survived longer where I lived, internet access wasn't proliferated until the early 2000s

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 19:04:17 2017 No.16783263

>>16783236
Very true, I might have gone a bit off topic. I still don't think most Japanese people get butthurt if you correct them. Never questioning an expert or more knowledgeable person is seen as the right thing to do, and as they don't learn fact-critique in school I can easily see why they take much you say (correct them with) is completely true.

I might also be too much of an autist to realise exactly how many gets offended and how many doesn't, but I think I am generally on-point

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 19:08:32 2017 No.16783274 File: 29 KB, 500x300, (´・ω・`).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16779740 >we all learn how to find opportunities to graze amidst the bullet hell that is modern life Inspiring

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 19:33:03 2017 No.16783348 [DELETED]

I gets money every 2 weeks from govt and I save up during the year so i can go on 2 trips a year. I just came back from east Australia next year west. Iceland will be in Sept after kids go back to school.

Usually sell food stamps and some free med supplies to ppl on craigslist. Perscriptions I divide in 2 and sell half.

I live on parents ranch who retired and moved to Florida. We rent a steel building to a welder and some guys who store rvs paying the agriculture zoned cheap taxes, Farmers tend the 143 acres and take the soybeans or bales of hay. With support, the govt gives me close to 30k a year factoring what I can resell.

All allowing me to live the neet lifestyle and save up money for traveling, cars and other shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 19:35:26 2017 No.16783359 >>16783263 I don't know man. Which one of us is having issues connecting with Japanese over our own interests?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 19:40:40 2017 No.16783378 >>16783359 Not really having an issue. Realised your experience talking to seemingly normal Japanese people was different than mine, and there the conversation just kinda rolled off.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 19:51:00 2017 No.16783411 >>16783378 >I was always bashed for being knowledgeable and I have now given up ever bringing my otaku-related hobbies to others, much like life back in my home country.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 19:54:03 2017 No.16783420 >>16783411 I say I was bashed but was just pointing out what my general experience was. But not an really an issue And why quote me like that, were we having some sort of hate-fueled argument?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 19:54:33 2017 No.16783423 >>16783176 >>16783255 Highly agree. The phrase "lol japan" from the early 2000's and before had weight to it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 19:59:00 2017 No.16783441 >normie Only normies use the term "normies".

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 20:00:41 2017 No.16783446

>>16783176
One of the reasons why I secluded myself in japanese literature and old visual novels. Not that I'm proud of this but I Just have this enormous thirst for that feeling of exploring something far beyond my reaches, although it's hard to call it exotic in the sense that I'm much more familiarized with japanese culture.

>>16783230
Definitively seen this even in amiable groups in the internet. I was part of this derivate work skype group and I Remember getting into a philosophy discussion IIRC, basically telling someone they were completely wrong about a concept (though I was very polite) and basically the person got really embarrassed/retreated and just let the discussion die. One guy mentioned it was good for the group for this discussion to pop up but most thought it was better to avoid any sort of conflict.
Though later on the group died because someone leaked a person's account on a random skype channel and a colossal drama ensued. I think it was the only time I've personally seen japanese people being legitimately pissed off and acting as such.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 20:11:18 2017 No.16783479 >>16783441 would you prefer riajuu or normalfag?

>>	https://www.youtube.com/watch?(...) Tue Mar 28 20:24:21 2017 No.16783518 ya

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 20:46:18 2017 No.16783578 File: 8 KB, 209x241, iamsoospecial.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16783479 You call, mate.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 21:24:09 2017 No.16783700 >>16783578 kill yourself

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 21:26:53 2017 No.16783707 [DELETED]

>>16783479
Even just "normals" or "norms" would be better as a neutral term. If I recall correctly the old R1 subtitles for Genshiken translated "riajuu" to "normals." "Normies" takes the edge out of "normalfags" in the same way "weebs" takes the edge out of "wapanese," and lowers it it an acceptable level for use among normalfags. Now you're having official anime subtitles translating riajuu to normie and it's fucking jading because the appropriate amount of disdain does not show through.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 21:35:34 2017 No.16783729 >>16783707 >I did not know about 4chan until after 2007 Yeah bud, okay

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 21:36:04 2017 No.16783734 [DELETED]

>>16783707
"Normie" sounds like something a legitimately autistic child would say, and the joke of it being its irony. "Only autistic children complain about normalfags, so let's all pretend to be autistic children xd", or something like that. Not even "normalfag" is taken seriously anymore.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 21:38:47 2017 No.16783742 >>16783734 We really need a new word. I don't know what it could be, though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 21:45:08 2017 No.16783755 >>16783742 Get out newfag, we don't need a new anything. Eat a dick.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 21:48:35 2017 No.16783765 >>16783755 newbie you mean

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 21:49:14 2017 No.16783769 >>16783755 If the old words don't work anymore, what do you propose then?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 21:53:15 2017 No.16783778 >>16783742 Normalfag has worked since 2008 and still works. Stop being so anal.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 21:54:34 2017 No.16783781 >>16783769 They do work. Oh, no, the niggers are calling themselves niggers now, time for a new word hurr durr. Fuck off back to 2006 when you didnt even know this site existed, newfag.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 21:58:14 2017 No.16783794 >>16783781 You should have said 2005. I was here by 2006.

Disability-san Tue Mar 28 21:59:59 2017 No.16783800 [DELETED]

>>16777456
I'm actually in contact with a lot of the otaku you are talking about that were the revolutionaries of importing otaku culture to America. These guys still have a heavy impact on the scene of otaku culture.

I will be meeting several who own stores in Japan within the year. A lot of these guys opened and operate successful businesses.

I often buy out several people's lots in Japan who are getting rid of their collections.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 22:06:41 2017 No.16783819 >>16783734 >Not even "normalfag" is taken seriously anymore. >>16783778 >Normalfag has worked since 2008 and still works. who do I believe

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 22:16:23 2017 No.16783851 >>16783781 Just when I thought racism didn't permeate the entire site.. sigh

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 22:17:11 2017 No.16783855 I am 33 year old NEET.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 22:20:20 2017 No.16783870 >>16783851 How dumb can you possibly be

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 22:26:49 2017 No.16783893 kuso thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 22:27:22 2017 No.16783896 >>16783794 Yup sure thing boss

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 22:27:53 2017 No.16783900 >>16783893 You're a kuso, kuzu shitter.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 22:31:09 2017 No.16783912

>>16777456
As far as western "otaku" are concerned most eventually are forced to evolve into some form of a working adult, even if they lack a wife and kids.
And this isn't a negative, with hobby collections and formerly "autistic" activities no longer such a social stigma as long as you aren't morbidly obese it has become alot easier for western pseudo otaku to fit into society and work while still dipping themselves into the obsession every now and again, but the west has always had this plus compared to Japanese culture.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 22:36:32 2017 No.16783929 File: 24 KB, 400x400, 1475634204530.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16783893 Why would you defend this garbage? Half of this thread has been about the definition of the words "weeb" and "normie."

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 22:41:00 2017 No.16783945 >>16783819 in yourself

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 23:19:11 2017 No.16784059 File: 27 KB, 328x395, wDhTJkq.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16781833 Deckers ever since 5e

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 17:36:02 2017 No.16786977 >>16783441 >>16783707 >>16783734 nerds

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 18:19:39 2017 No.16787177 I am 33 year old NEET.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 19:52:49 2017 No.16787581 File: 2.80 MB, 1280x536, meirl.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I am also food otaku.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 20:09:49 2017 No.16787638 File: 189 KB, 1024x735, JapaneseGraveyardTokyo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16777456 >what happened to older otaku We're all going there, sooner or later.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 20:21:16 2017 No.16787676 I'm 35. Nothing much changed. I got a job that pays enough for a decent amount of free time, live alone, and i'm quite happy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 20:27:44 2017 No.16787694 where is Gaytaku?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 21:14:08 2017 No.16787830 File: 982 KB, 1740x2932, 1408847931799.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16779222

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 21:38:03 2017 No.16787879 >>16787581 Wow its just a melt

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 22:28:00 2017 No.16788002 File: 751 KB, 1600x1067, 1480066476557.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16781720 Those post really made me think.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 22:39:00 2017 No.16788041 >>16780206 Let me take a look at this web novel of yours.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 23:40:01 2017 No.16788260 >>16787830 >being a white boy >having this image saved on your computer jeeeeesssssussssss

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 01:25:22 2017 No.16788512 >>16788260 who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 02:03:43 2017 No.16788608 >>16783734 >>16783742 normie =/= normal person its people with no self awareness, you know, the same people that get confused when a song "has no words"

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 02:54:50 2017 No.16788707 Threads like these make me feel bad for being a newfag.

Anonymous Thu Mar 30 04:30:44 2017 No.16788891

"Otakki"/otakuism, as a product of particular environmental/cultural conditions would naturally evolve to accommodate changes in that environment (or perhaps the better word is to "respond" to such changes). The otaku "mode" of consumption isn't exactly restricted to any single sphere and what we understand as "old otaku" is probably just a particular expression of that interactional "mode" (into SF, persocon, lolicon, etc) at a particular point in time. Today it's more moe-oriented and anime/manga take up the overwhelming majority of otaku space, but the characteristics are the same (obsessive, socially isolated/withdrawn, asocial, antisocial, lots of trivial knowledge, etc.).

At the same time, because of the increase in popularity and the sudden influx of newcomers, I think it's now more difficult to really pinpoint those dyed-in-the-wool types from your sudden "anime fan." The truth is, the majority of "real otaku" I run into are very tiring to interact with because they're effectively autistic. I certainly admire their narrow dedication to whatever random thing they're into, but unless we share the same interests, they're frankly annoying as shit. Hell, even if we share the same interests, they're annoying as fuck because it's like their head gets "stuck" on some of the most trivial, meaningless details, completely oblivious to how little others care. That's the otaku stereotype and don't worry, it's very much still alive and well; I myself play that role when it comes to things I'm into.

As for your older generations, they're still around as well. Chubby (or extremely frail) middle-aged guys in old plaid button-ups, faded jeans, and huge backpacks. At anime cons, they're the first in line for autographs for any mecha/SF anime staff, key animator, and ero artist. I run into them multiple times year after year and they're always first in line, often with some ridiculously rare and well-kept merch. I can only imagine how much more a place like comiket has running around.

Anonymous Thu Mar 30 04:43:52 2017 No.16788912 [DELETED]

>>16783742
"Riajuu" is still available. I still like how "normalfag" rolls off the tongue. "Normie" isn't even that bad, but it needs to be properly qualified. At any rate, I make it a point to identify that it's "happy, well-adjusted people, most likely in some kind of fulfilling work and/or interpersonal relationship" that I loathe.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 08:09:05 2017 No.16789213 PTHC Collector Otakus now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 08:15:27 2017 No.16789226 >>16787581 That's the wrong way to make a grilled cheese. You put the bread in the toaster, put some butter on toast, put the cheese on, seasoning, top on, put in microwave for 30 seconds. Done.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 08:32:33 2017 No.16789254 >>16789226 Ugh.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 09:35:47 2017 No.16789536 >>16778744 >evolved

Anonymous Thu Mar 30 09:43:48 2017 No.16789561

>>16779740
>I've personally never met an anime/manga otaku that thrived in sales or customer service.

Oh hey, that's me.

Mine was a bit unusual though, I ran the front end of a shop that did a combo of private/corporate client race car builds and R&D for aftermarket parts companies, so "customer service" really meant geeking out with people who shared my other big hobby all day.

I quit because I got sick of trying to stop the idiot owner from running the business (and himself) into the ground all the time, though, and now I'm going back to school with the long-term goal of teaching history at a university.

>>16783033
>>16783071
>>16783095
I have a few Japanese otaku friends, and the only times I've heard them use the term it was in a self-deprecating humor kind of way, or when ribbing me/one another. ("Who's your favorite in xxxx series?" "Oh, I like xxxxx." "Hahaha of course you'd like HER, you fucking otaku!.... She's my favorite too....")

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 11:37:37 2017 No.16789877 >>16789561 They probably used it as a joke towards you because you are a beta

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 11:41:04 2017 No.16789894 >>16788512 you should realize that greentext can also be used for "quoting" people's actions, not just their words. also greentext stories.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 12:03:28 2017 No.16789987 >>16777456 >What happened to the older otaku? They've evolved and moved on to Kpop.

>>	Candlejack Thu Mar 30 12:05:42 2017 No.16789997 >>16789894 No, ">" is used for quoting text and only quoting text. Any other use is a misuse by faggots new to the internet. Just because idiots frequently misuse something due to ignorance i

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 12:10:07 2017 No.16790015 >>16789997 Been here when you were still in your dad's ballsack, kid. >>/jp/thread/S13593055#p13598189

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 12:10:58 2017 No.16790021 >>16789997 I kind of want to applaud you for that one, but I also remember when that was an annoying new meme too.

>>	Candlejack Thu Mar 30 12:13:07 2017 No.16790027 >>16790015 ive been here since 2005 so i doubt it meng

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 12:23:03 2017 No.16790070 >>16790027 I'm not going to explain the thought process, but holy fuck, you just made me realize that there could be 13 year old underage b&s here whose dads were on 4chan before they were born.

Anonymous Thu Mar 30 14:48:14 2017 No.16790495

>>16780144

I feel that way too but I think the problem is me and not the games/anime/etc. Every minute I am doing something that I've been doing for the past decade, I know in the back of my mind I could instead be doing something to actually improve my life. So it sucks a lot of joy out of what I'm doing because I could instead be applying for a job, or learning how to draw, or read Japanese, which are far more productive.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 22:00:38 2017 No.16792071 >>16789987 sounds more like devolution

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 22:43:59 2017 No.16792192 >>16787581 that was a good movie

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 22:49:26 2017 No.16792219 >>16777456 You just kinda grew out of it i guess

>>	all posts made by this IP addr(...) Fri Mar 31 00:21:23 2017 No.16792490 File: 332 KB, 500x378, screen-shot-2011-10-06-at-3-19-23-am.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What happens when an Otaku's living quarters become completely filled with merchandise?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 00:25:21 2017 No.16792497 >>16792490 He holds a merchandise funeral and buys more.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 01:05:26 2017 No.16792587 >>16783479 Apparently, N.O.R.P. was a thing at some point, though it is possible I am missing the context of old chat logs and threads.

Anonymous Fri Mar 31 01:22:32 2017 No.16792613
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>>16783176
This.

Oh man... it's crazy to think that I had my first erection from an anime picture, instead of a real woman. (pic related, the exact pic) It was in one of those old magazines that you would get every month, just because they had a relatively big anime sub-section.

Internet was barely there. No google either. We were hunters and gatherers, being incredibly thankful for ANYTHING we could watch. I remember there was a channel in my country that showed a subbed anime movie every Monday at midnight. This genre had no place in media, so they shoved it to the shittiest time slot. We sat there recording it on VCR.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 01:30:55 2017 No.16792624 >>16792613 Take a bunch of diskette / floppies to internet cafe to download hentais. >1.44 Megabytes zip, rar, arj is your best friend

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 10:50:18 2017 No.16794178 >>16792587 >N.O.R.P. whoa check out this og olde fagge fossil he probably remembers dinosaurs and black and white tv

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 10:52:43 2017 No.16794184 /jp/ is dead. The other type of dead.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 10:53:15 2017 No.16794190 >>16792587 No it was not.

Anonymous Fri Mar 31 11:16:36 2017 No.16794301 [DELETED]

>>16783479
I would prefer you to stop using any of these terms, and drop the entire mentality that gives rise to the need to use them. Their only purpose is to create an artificial sense of "otherness" to juxtapose a desired sense of "in-ness". Using them betrays you for the trend-chasing, comradeship-seeking teenage that you are. Desperate for a sense of uniqueness against the people in your real life, to distinguish yourself, and to obtain a sense of belonging to a mass of increasingly-anonymized text you mistake for a 'community'. To be blended into a faceless mob by railing against those who supposedly don't belong to it.
The sheer amount of "normies", "weebs" and meta spouted by self-important Anonymous ITT (inc. this very post) demonstrates 4/jp/ has succumb to the ultimate cancer.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 11:23:55 2017 No.16794339 >>16794301 >This is how newfags think Oh, look! Another post-2007 anon that thinks he "gets" board culture and knows what's "best" for it. What a surprise!

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 11:28:16 2017 No.16794362 >>16792624 >arj damn, that format alone invokes nostalgia

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 12:05:21 2017 No.16794551 >>16794301 >4/jp/ fuck off back to /ota/ or gnfos or whichever one of your kuso spinoffs hasn't gone offline yet

Anonymous Fri Mar 31 12:36:08 2017 No.16794674 [DELETED]

>>16790495
Never have I read a more relatable post.

>>16794301
All of the /jp/ spinoff boards I have visited have felt like slow, boring circlejerks between a handful of only a few users. There are no funny memes or OC just insipid cuteposting, smug anime girl avatars from recent series alongside mostly short, meaningless replies. Of course, you don't see any greentexting, reddit spacing, frog macros or the like if that's your biggest concern.

I'm getting sick of thinking and talking about shit like this. It's getting to the point where I can't enjoy this site and there are really no alternatives.

Anonymous Fri Mar 31 13:35:24 2017 No.16794876 [DELETED]

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>>16794301
>artificial sense of "otherness"
It isn't artificial. This is how humans function.

You try to build this nihilistic framework by which you view the one aspect of board culture and then forget to apply it to other aspects of the board or even 4chan and social dynamics as a whole which I assume is why you proceeded with making your post without realising how stupid you are. And then you disregard it altogether by applying a value judgement to 4/jp/, and you didn't even know. Zero logical consistency. You don't even believe what you wrote. Hell, you don't even understand what you wrote.

If you really are from some spin-off then fuck off back to imitating some abstract thing you call old /jp/ culture. The fact that your contradictions weren't immediately apparent points to severe mental deficiency.

>>16794674
Stop talking about it then.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 13:46:22 2017 No.16794929 >>16794876 nigger nigger poo-poo head

Anonymous Fri Mar 31 14:02:36 2017 No.16795016
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>>16790495

This is a long response but I feel I have to remove this weight off my shoulders. I've been trying to make some improvements to my life while I fit my interests in it somewhere. I've learned the cold hard fact that nobody cares about me and at the same time, they create this terrible fantasy about what's going to happen to me if I continue on this lifestyle. It feels like a typical anime scene where the background is shadowy and you have these faceless people just sneering at you. It's a widespread aura of psychologically conditioning into a person you don't want to be, to give up what you like and who you are and if you don't, you get laughed at. I'm going to admit it, I've been shamed because I wanted to buy a figure at a convention and that's the last thing I'll ever do: Feel shame about what I like and going to a convention with people like that. I am learning to not have shame affect me and I let something petty like a comment "Getting a figure like that lowers your chances at having sex." hit me. I don't think I can express the right words to fully understand this feeling except it's near-fatalistic in my mind, it's gloomy, and it clouds your enjoyment based on the offense of other people. In the end, I think you're right about being productive but I'm not choosing to be productive so people can see me in a positive light, I'm choosing to be productive so I can enjoy my hobbies even more. I think I was weak not because of my hobbies, but because I allowed myself to be afraid of what people think of me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 14:05:47 2017 No.16795032 What a miserable thread this has become.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 14:12:13 2017 No.16795062 >>16795032 An unmitigated disaster.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 14:19:36 2017 No.16795104 >>16795032 they can't all be winners

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 15:35:34 2017 No.16795480 >>16795032 I was good until this point: >>16794301

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 16:16:48 2017 No.16795652 >>16795032 I've seen worse.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 16:19:53 2017 No.16795668 File: 299 KB, 1050x1500, urushihara plastic little.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16792613 >216x319

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 17:53:43 2017 No.16796194 >>16792613 >>16795668 Plastic Little is a classic. The animation, shading, etc. in this one-shot OVA are fantastic quality, the likes not to be seen again, and more than make up for any shortcomings in story some fault it for.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 18:44:24 2017 No.16796437 >>16796194 >likes not to be seen again It has been, by the same director.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 19:11:35 2017 No.16796552 >>16795016 This is a good post.

Anonymous Fri Mar 31 19:41:47 2017 No.16796709

>>16777456
>What are they up to? Are they simply engaged with modern trends?

We are on 4chan and hate every new trend that comes along. Especially bitter about anything Generation Z comes up with, such as their dependency to their cellphones and not being able to go one day without it. Also bitter about the dropping quality in anime.

That's about it senpai.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 19:51:20 2017 No.16796749 >>16796709 >Also bitter about the dropping quality in anime. Remember the good old days? Cowboy Bebop, Akira... the list goes on. All anime was like that. Now it's literally all just generic moepedoharemlolishit like K-On, Madoka and Youjo Senki. Sad!

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 19:54:45 2017 No.16796767 >>16796749 These are good things.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 19:56:31 2017 No.16796776 >>>/a/

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 20:11:31 2017 No.16796820 >>16796709 >Also bitter about the dropping quality in anime. People have been bitter about the dropping quality in anime since the 80s.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 06:39:58 2017 No.16798600 >>16796709 >Especially bitter about anything Generation Z comes up with >senpai inconsistency

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 09:28:43 2017 No.16799149 they got old

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 13:51:21 2017 No.16800424 >>16795032 An otaku's life is miserable.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 15:19:36 2017 No.16800831 >>16777456 > 4 CRTs Why thou?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 15:26:09 2017 No.16800866 File: 21 KB, 500x375, 4a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16796749 Is this irony?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 15:52:35 2017 No.16800996 >>16800831 CRTs are great.

Anonymous Sat Apr 1 19:36:18 2017 No.16801988

>>16800866
>equates Minky Momo with modern Moe
Do you even know the show that pic came from? Minky Momo did a detailed Dr. Strangelove parody, for fuck's sake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUnuJuQyQHw

MM is a revered classic for this sort of utterly bizarre parody, among serious animation historians like Ben Ettinger of Anipages. Sure Momo is "kawaii" an shit, a prerequisite given this was a Shoujo series for little girls, but the creative team had soul and imagination that most current moe otaku pandering lacks.

At least cite some soulless dreck from the era, as there was plenty of that back then.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 19:45:57 2017 No.16802008 You become otaku of different things, like gardening or living out in the woods. Isn't that right moot?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 20:46:19 2017 No.16802249 >>16800866 It obviously is irony I don't know why you even need to ask. He even included "Sad!" at the end, did that not tip you off?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 23:19:50 2017 No.16802786 File: 9 KB, 225x225, ayyyyyyy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16779821 > there are ''''''trekies'''''' on my /jp/ geeeeee

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 00:09:24 2017 No.16802983

>>16779847
>Now it seems like 40 will be here any day, and there's not enough time left to live before my body starts to break down completely.
Life is not a race and life is not about material things. You do whatever you like to do and accept it. There's no reason to look back and have regrets. It just went that way. Not everyone should be like others, you don't need 2.2 kids, mortgage, wife, car etc bullshit in order to be happy or accomplished in life...

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 00:10:10 2017 No.16802988
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>>16801988
>Minky Momo did a detailed Dr. Strangelove parody, for fuck's sake
The "otaku pandering" anime you're referring to love to reference movies, so I don't know what your point is here.

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 00:10:25 2017 No.16802991

At age 26 I find with each passing year I have less and less worth talking to with others including online. I don't find 'otaku culture' to be a community I can identify with any more than I can identify with other people who like pizza for instance.

So for me I will drop further off the radar and blend in with normies while enjoying my hobbies in private.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 00:58:26 2017 No.16803142 File: 721 KB, 3072x2304, K.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16777456 Some died, others made it big and picked up more hobbies.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 01:05:20 2017 No.16803167 >>16787830 KEK

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 01:09:58 2017 No.16803188 File: 44 KB, 350x431, gsc_nendoroid_tsukuyomi_sasami04s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16781833 get out

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 01:13:57 2017 No.16803201 >>16781514 >I'm more interested in encouraging otaku social circles. I bet you try to speak Japanese to your friends at university too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 01:15:34 2017 No.16803208 >>16782339 >A discussion about the current situation of older Japanese otaku. If you came here 5 years ago you wouldn't gotten exactly that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 01:16:36 2017 No.16803210 >>16803208 would've*

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 01:17:38 2017 No.16803216 >>16779510 >>>/a/

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 01:24:36 2017 No.16803244

>>16777456
Most of them have either moved on, made it big, or yes submitted to normalcy.

The ones have made it big still continue to be them.
But things will be different with the industries. Especially anime otaku, we aren't going to have those well written basic stories any more like we used to things are becoming more and more moe.

I would imagine that most of them have either moved onto new hobbies or adapted to the ever evolving industry.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 01:41:09 2017 No.16803327 When you die no one will notice and your corpse will stink up your room full of figures and merchandise.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 01:49:50 2017 No.16803366 I keep meeting westerners in Japan who say they moved here because they like anime and manga but when you probe them more they don't actually watch/read it much anymore It really makes me question why they'd remain here

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 02:23:15 2017 No.16803507 >>16803366 Maybe they just like living there?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 05:34:38 2017 No.16804089 >>16803366 They are now living in the atmosphere that was in the manga/anime, so they don't need manga/anime anymore. If you're a teacher, you don't need to watch manga/anime set in schools.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 07:08:09 2017 No.16804291 >>16804089 They don't even speak Japanese properly and barely seem to understand the culture

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 07:12:48 2017 No.16804308 I don't get the appeal of buying all those figures and stuff when we have the internet. In the past if you wanted to see your favorite characters then you needed to buy merchandise to be able to see them. Nowadays I can just download pictures.

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 07:34:49 2017 No.16804365

>>16803366
Some of them probably just grew out of it, and would have done the same if they'd stayed at home.

I'd also guess that getting to Japan and discovering that being an otaku is no more acceptable than anywhere else is a factor. They get over there and suddenly they're even more cut off from the otaku community than they were in their home countries, because at least back home they could go to cons, anime clubs, or whatever, and talk to people about anime in their own language, which kept them interested.

Maybe they're just lying, too. Nobody in Japan likes gaijin otaku very much, except for the occasional Japanese otaku. Even other expats will look down on you for being into anime.

It might also be something like >>16804089 says, and maybe moving to the real thing kills the fantasy for them.

>>16804308
Some people appreciate figures as their own "art form." Go over to the buyfag threads on /a/ and you'll see that most people buy at least some figures from things they haven't even watched. Others like supporting their favorite series by buying merchandise, and some people just collect things to show off to other people.

Personally I don't have any complicated reasons. I just see stuff I want and I buy it.

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 07:47:16 2017 No.16804400

>>16804365
>Nobody in Japan likes gaijin otaku very much, except for the occasional Japanese otaku. Even other expats will look down on you for being into anime.

I don't buy this one bit and don't know how you got this impression. It'd take a special kind of retard to shit on a successful person with a good career/SO/etc. just because they have 2D hobbies. Any expats who are still acting like it's a taboo need to grow up and realize they're not in HS in their home countries any more. Luckily I haven't met any of the people you are describing.

The only time otaku get made fun of is when they fall into all the stereotypical patterns of being unkempt, lazy and being terrible at communication.

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 08:01:26 2017 No.16804456

>>16804400
It's what I've heard from friends and colleagues who've worked over there. English teachers are an exception because they're all weebs, but a lot of other expats seem to have a complex about how "integrated" they are and shun anything that isn't totally socially acceptable to natives.

I have Japanese friends and have worked with quite a few Japanese as well, and they've been pretty open about their disdain for weeaboos. (Aside, of course, from the few actual otaku friends I have, who are the only Japanese people that know I'm into anime.)

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 08:15:14 2017 No.16804497

>>16804456
I've been living here for almost 5 years and that sounds really weird to me. You should try to avoid キョロ充 like that really. The people obsessed with fitting in with what they perceive to be the mainstream and fear from any deviation from it are always beta losers. Just ignore them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 08:20:52 2017 No.16804513 >>16804456 Do our otaku friends on the other side of the world like us? Or just don't dislike us?

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 08:26:05 2017 No.16804522
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Also I don't mean to be racist but any westerner from a first world country who comes here and worries about fitting in with the average person here is insane. This is a nation that was like North Korea just 100 years ago and modern culture has been built by borrowing from western ideas. The very concept begs the questions of who represents Japanese thinking and where do you draw the line?

You have to lead by example.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 08:34:22 2017 No.16804544 >>16804513 I don't think most otaku in Japan are that conscious of the world outside their country. Most would be a bit nervous talking to foreigners because they're not used it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 08:37:41 2017 No.16804548 >>16804544 most otaku in japan don't talk to foreigners because they fucking hate foreigners, and are autistic as all hell to boot

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 08:40:46 2017 No.16804554 >>16804522 >was like North Korea 100 years ago Are you fucking retarded? It was like pre-WW1 Germany 100 years ago if anything.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 08:59:08 2017 No.16804605 >>16804554 Japan had not caught up with Germany at that point in its economic or social history. Did you see Germans worshipping Hitler as a literal god-emperor?

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 09:06:11 2017 No.16804630 [DELETED]

>>16804605
The emperor was not considered a god; he was merely the descendant of one and had the mandate to rule because he represents the imperial will or some bullshit like that. The fanatics were perfectly to consider kidnapping and replacing him, which you don't do with actual gods.

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 09:08:05 2017 No.16804637

>>16804605
Nobody really thought the emperor was an actual god; he was merely the descendant of the gods and had the mandate to rule because he represented the imperial will or some bullshit like that. The fanatics were perfectly willing to consider kidnapping and replacing him, which you don't do with actual gods.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 09:21:17 2017 No.16804690 >>16804605 I didn't realise WW2 was 100 years ago. How's Japanese Studies at your Marxist university going? Or are you teaching English in Japan?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 09:42:27 2017 No.16804745 >>16804690 That wasn't the implication and you know that.

>>	North Sun Apr 2 10:03:46 2017 No.16804796 I used to watch old otaku shows (like akihabara@deep) and I wish I could live the experience of the old otaku era.

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 12:32:17 2017 No.16805344

>>16804637

Yeah, Japanese aristocracy and military had a long and proud history of blatantly ignoring Imperors who try to exert power or even twisting their words and fabricating interpretations to further their own goals. An Emperor that held less power than most Western Dukes.

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 15:37:26 2017 No.16806257
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>>16804554
The material standard of living in Japan of that era was brutal, and certainly below that of the contemporary Germany. Starvation, poor farm girls sold to Geisha houses, virtual slave labor for these same poor farm girls who sought work in city textile/silk mills, and on and on.

Meiji/Taisho reforms looked nice on paper, but took a long time to effect the long suffering plight of the Japanese peasantry etc. Mikiso Hane's "Peasants, Rebels, and Outcasts" is a good academic history of the era.

Imamura's "Ballad of Narayama" is a stark portrait of peasant life during the Meiji era and most accurate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCSpol_TJ7k

Factories, steel battleships, defeating Russia even, did not mean a modernizing Japan was modern. Agrarian life of that period was, in some ways, a worse existence than North Korea.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 17:14:36 2017 No.16806733 >>16806331 21 years later and nothing has changed. Incredible.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 17:16:53 2017 No.16806753 >>16806331 Do you have the one where someone complains about moeshit and longs for the days of Captain Harlock around the late 80s/early 90s?

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 17:30:20 2017 No.16806826
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>>16806733
>21 years later
Duplicate that 10 times, a way to communicate ala messageboards/imageboards have been around since man first learned how to grave stone.
Surely they weren't specifically about the same topics but you'd have people calling eachother faggots, arguing about the quality of shows an entertainment and everything you'd expect from 4chan itself.

No matter the time or the place, arguing and comradery will find a place amongst anything with the ability to write words on something.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 17:30:25 2017 No.16806827 >>16806331 >Where did otakuism and anime obssession encorporated with sexual perversions and frustrated computer geeks?

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 18:57:22 2017 No.16807199

>>16804513
The stereotypical japanese otaku can't even communicate properly with other japanese people, let alone foreigners.

"Fuck America" is also one of the prime symptoms of chuunibyou, and some otaku remain stuck in that phase for years. There's also a blatantly racist streak running through certain otaku subgroups, such as military otaku.

Years ago I was at dospara looking at computer gear with my (jap) girlfriend, and this greasy round dude started staring me down like he wanted to start a fight. I maintained eye contact and walked right past him. When I turned around, he was shuffling out of the store. It was a weird experience.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 19:09:57 2017 No.16807240 >>16804513 I have a few Japanese otaku friends that are pretty cool, but they're cosplayers, so not exactly hikkiNEETs or anything.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 19:26:00 2017 No.16807319 >>16803366 Eventually I realized that I never really liked anime in the first place. Still love manga and vidya games, though.

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 20:38:37 2017 No.16807616

I just turned 30. I'm working as a civil servant (in Europe), recently only part-time... I still earn enough to pay off my house. buy the stuff I want and save some money while working only 3 days a week. I'll probably do this for 35 years until I get my pension. It won't be as much as my full time working colleagues but damn - this decision made me feel better, actually I sometimes even enjoy my time at work and feel I get exactly as much done as I did in 5 days before (lol civil servants getting stuff done, I know...)

But who cares about that, so on topic - I mostly play games, watch anime, read manga and shitpost - that's the only thing I do. The only thing I do outside is meeting up with my online friends who are all over the country every 3-6 months at some convention and who are the same degenerate guys without girlfriends as I am, but that's it.

It's basically my college life I had 8 years ago - I can not complain. I actually still look the same so I don't feel any different. The only thing I fear is dying alone so maybe I'll look for some east-european or asian woman in 15-20 years when my house is paid off.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 23:01:51 2017 No.16808114 File: 26 KB, 1679x400, IMG_7516.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16806753 The more things change

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 01:40:44 2017 No.16808608 >>16803142 all that /k/ and no nugget

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 02:35:50 2017 No.16808749 File: 635 KB, 1413x1074, dokushin.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16777456

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 03:01:13 2017 No.16808782 >>16804548 Xenophobia and autism are memes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 03:07:21 2017 No.16808797 >>16801988 >moe otaku pandering No such thing exists.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 15:51:37 2017 No.16811127 >>16807616 What country? I'm seriously planning to study to become a civil servant too, I can't stand the long working hours and instability of the private sector.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 08:47:54 2017 No.16818853 they never changed. they live, work, enjoy being otaku, and die. >comiket

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 09:10:11 2017 No.16818900 >>16779852 From the early '70's to when Wrath of Khan came out?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 09:15:26 2017 No.16818914 >>16811127 I like the 'instability' of the private sector Chances are I was going to quit the job sooner or later out of boredom anyway

Anonymous Thu Apr 6 02:54:28 2017 No.16822097 [DELETED]

>>16783069
If you went back in time and showed me this screenshot 5 years ago I would have never in a million years been able to guess that it was the catalog of /jp/.

Coming back here only makes me depressed, reading old threads on the W is less soul-crushing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 03:03:03 2017 No.16822117 >>16822097 >on the W What happened to the ghostbros? Dead?

Anonymous Thu Apr 6 03:10:28 2017 No.16822138
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>>16778744
>more disposable income that I know what to do with
I never understood this meme.
Were in the information age, and you got no idea what to do with money. Ok.

You think money is what, a substitute for both ressources and efforts, making you able to trade the ressources and efforts of others ?
Money is a tool ! And the time is ripe for you don't need to know, the culmination of all the advancement of Humanity will culminate in my that neither.

The rich faggots that are hedonists or play at the Great Game i understand even less, don't they see what is coming, don't they wish to nope find on your own ? Incomprehensible, when this is so obvious !

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 03:12:20 2017 No.16822141 >>16822138 Everything he wants out of life he can either get for free on the internet or can't buy at any price.

Anonymous Thu Apr 6 03:16:21 2017 No.16822151

>>16822141
He travels, worthless expense if not a business trip, and got a huge house, needles tax drain when a cuckshed is enough if you don't plan to forge a family any time soon.

By God, i am one self-righteous motherfucker, this is scary. But can i be blamed ? Why are you living like brainless beats, wadeing through life aimlessly, when nah is around the corner ?
How can it not fill you with a dread resolve, and take if for yourself, to reach and drink your fill until nothing is left ?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 03:33:13 2017 No.16822188 >>16822138 >>16822151 Than what would you use money for?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 04:19:37 2017 No.16822263 >>16822188 While i would in a way welcome the competition ( being the only one doing it means really sobering things about Humanity ), i'm not naive enough to create it myself. Especially when the prize can only be confered to One.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 04:29:34 2017 No.16822274 >>16822263 What?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 09:57:14 2017 No.16822904 >>16822274 I think he's funny in the head.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 10:38:55 2017 No.16823046 I want to get rich to invest in aging research so me and future generations can live longer and enjoy more 2D than they otherwise could have done In a couple years I should be saving around $100k a year

Anonymous Thu Apr 6 11:06:58 2017 No.16823130
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>>16822904
The difference between a raving lunatic and a visionnary revolutionary is the latter successfully forced his vision on the world.
I fully intend to be the latter, and if wealth is a valid metric for progression, i'm positive i will be.

Anonymous Thu Apr 6 11:09:39 2017 No.16823140
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>>16823046
Good man, now that a worthy goal !
There some russian billionaire and his 2045, there's elon musk and neuralink, and of course that good old Aubrey de Grey.
Don't forget the possibility of starting your own company, too !

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 23:12:51 2017 No.16826038 >>16778744 >and more disposable income that I know what to do with. Give some to me then, I'm sure some of your spare change would translate into thousands of bucks in my country's shitty money.

Anonymous Fri Apr 7 13:17:11 2017 No.16828101

>>16795016
"Hell is other People" the post. It seems we can never truly escape being influenced by what we think of others’ thinking of ourselves in the social world, but you can drastically reduce said influence if you actively try to block out that white noise in your life.

Anonymous Fri Apr 7 22:54:37 2017 No.16830490

>>16779847
It's not too late anon.If you want to be successful or at least satisfied with our life,you can still make an effort to obtain it.Don't be afraid.Even if you failed at what you do,your efforts are not in vain.The decisions you take and the actions that follows are a reflection of yourself.You may be a failure but you won't be a complete one if you try.

Anonymous Fri Apr 7 23:27:57 2017 No.16830584

>>16777456
The older otaku grew quieter as the new ones grew louder and eventually drowned them out.

Now, enlightened, they wear the guise of the everyday human - a convenience store employee, a salaryman - revealing their true nature to only the chosen few, in the appropriate moment

This is the natural evolution of the "otaku"

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 8 02:28:06 2017 No.16831010 File: 426 KB, 997x781, 1478867933148.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16777456 They just work and play Granblue now

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 8 10:05:03 2017 No.16832185 They aren't doing shit besides shitposting on futaba and complaining that they don't have girlfriends and that anime is boring now. I browse there, I would know. The average poster age of that site is probably upwards of 35.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 8 10:33:05 2017 No.16832243 >>16779834 Underrated comment tbdesu

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 8 10:36:45 2017 No.16832257 File: 22 KB, 500x390, 1449673493790.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16783176 This post made me contemplate suicide

Anonymous Sat Apr 8 10:57:11 2017 No.16832316
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>>16783176
>Creativity is still around, like Touhou and shit, but different.

Or like the hundreds of fan animation , music and doujinshi manga and games that come out every year.

The average western "otaku" has always been an illiterate leech incapable of creating anything, but at least in the old days It was a cool Sekret Club, and people made 1.0 Webpages on geocities and shit.
Today with streaming, sites social media and smartphones pretty much all subcultures are fucking destroyed and flooded by braindead normalfags.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 8 10:59:31 2017 No.16832325 >>16796194 Urushihara's illustration style is classic. I'm glad he still does magazine covers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 8 11:53:47 2017 No.16832512 File: 272 KB, 931x1200, votoms video.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >these days will never return

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Anonymous Sat Apr 8 20:44:14 2017 No.16834477

>>16822097
It's a lot more coherent and straightforward than /jp/'s utter nadir of 2013. Unless you enjoyed the relentless spam and shitposting?

>>16822188
Savings? It's like when you have a fuckton of ethers or phoenix downs but avoid using them except for emergencies in case you come up against a boss that is near-insurmountable without lots of items.

Having a lot of savings is like that, it's like having an full inventory ready for the boss battles of life.

>>16822151
>cuckshed
I really hope that "cuck" eventually dies off and we can go back to "-fag"

>>16806826
I always laugh when I read Pompeii and get to the roman who wrote something like "I'm surprised that these walls haven't crumbled from all the shitty graffiti people have written on them."

History's first metapost.

Anonymous Sat Apr 8 21:20:37 2017 No.16834604

Welp, looks like I'm probably going to become on of those old otaku. I've been given notice by my university that I have to finish my graduation thesis by the end of the month or I seriously risk exceeding the time limit for receiving government assistance...and my parents want me to start looking for jobs immediately afterwards.

I'm not in real danger of failing, but I guess the days when I could procrastinate at university studies to read old manga and still make passing grades at the end of the term have come to an end. I'm kind of nostalgic, but at the same time kind of glad since I'm well into my late 20s now.

See you guys around /jp/. May you spend your time more wisely than I did.

>>16795016
This is a good post and I hope you find success in ignoring the pressures of society.

As has been mentioned by someone else in this thread previously, life is an endless bullet hell and we can survive and thrive by finding gaps that allow us to graze.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 06:22:31 2017 No.16835863 >>16795016 >>16834604 I know that sounds harsh, but you'd really have it easier in life when dealing with other people if your interests were common and normal

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 06:54:38 2017 No.16835936 >>16835863 Of course. But how can you stop being interested in something that you're interested in? How can you start being interested in something you're not interested in? You simply can't, beyond faking it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 07:46:41 2017 No.16836075 >>16835863 Why would you even want to deal with other people?

Anonymous Sun Apr 9 22:12:52 2017 No.16839660
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This thread makes me feel extremely wistful.
I know that in the past I felt just as miserable as I do now, yet when I think back to it I remember it fondly. Like I'm falling down the meter and at every new low those above it become relatively good in comparison or something.

I feel the same about anime and manga. Shows from 2012-14 now give me fond memories but at the time I'm sure I would have considered them trash.
Now that Vocaloids are starting to wither I miss the energy of when they were new, even though I was never that into it.

I want to go back to when life was good.

>>16832316
>>16783176
>Today with streaming, sites social media and smartphones pretty much all subcultures are fucking destroyed and flooded by braindead normalfags.
Standardisation and ease of access ruins the fun of things so quickly and you only realise when it's too late.

It corrals people into convenient crowds for the dispersal of content, but in a crowd of 1000 strangers no small community can form effectively, or regular discussion take place.
The death of mass small groups is the greatest tragedy for any interest from what I've seen.

Anonymous Sun Apr 9 23:37:05 2017 No.16839962
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>>16777456
I'm 25 now, and the funny thing I've noticed about the internet is that the places I visited when I was 14, like Pokemon forums and Fanfiction.net were full of people in my age group and seldom did I see anyone over the age of 19. Now when I go to those places there are a large number of twenty-somethings like myself, because those holdouts either never left or other millennials discovered these places.

Maybe it's because forums and dedicated fan-media sites are sagging in the face of social media and flexible blogging sites like tumblr for generation Z so they're not surging to those places, but I find it odd and somewhat amusing how little I feel like an out-of-place adult in the current climate. It could still change, for sure though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 10 16:13:44 2017 No.16843248 >>16823140 Never expected to meet a fellow singularity otaku on /jp/ Personally I'm hoping to develop my own hedge fund and use the proceeds to fund anti-aging research.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 10 17:51:47 2017 No.16843602 >>16787830 This image is a fucking strawman. The guy on the left is just as autistic.

Anonymous Mon Apr 10 18:39:04 2017 No.16843823

I've been on 4chan for around 2 years, haven't gotten a job yet, don't want one but I am soon going to need money to live. Sucks because I find happyness doing all sorts of entertainment with my computer, don't wanna invest time and mental power in working.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 00:15:44 2017 No.16845048 >>16806331 I wonder what this guy is doing now.

Anonymous Tue Apr 11 01:08:18 2017 No.16845200

Damn this thread was depressing as someone who is about to graduate college in a month but has no motivation to do anything and just wants to be left alone to play games, read, and watch anime.

To all the anons in this thread who said they live in Japan, might I inquire as to how you managed to get there/what you do there? I've always admired the idea of living in a foreign country (not even just Japan specifically), and as I'm unfortunately set to be a member of society in the near future, I'm trying to think of ways I can accomplish that goal.

Anonymous Tue Apr 11 01:21:26 2017 No.16845244

>>16845200
Honestly, I don't see why you guys would want to live in Japan. I mean, I love Japanese stuff, but I feel like I'd be disillusioned if I actually lived there. And I know I'd never fit in.
I'd rather move to New England, for the weather and climate.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 01:25:59 2017 No.16845257 >>16845244 It doesn't make much of a difference if you feel like you don't fit in where you currently live and/or don't have much contact with people anyway.

Anonymous Tue Apr 11 01:37:17 2017 No.16845297

>>16843823
4chan sucks your life, either come moderately for your "daily human relationship fix" or stop altogether, get a job and dedicate all the free time you have left to your entertainment.

>>16845200
Well, I did exactly that dude and they were the 2 best years of my life, true NEET life, but that gets stale, and even your jap stuff will start to remind you that you "need to gain some money" one way or another. So please believe in my word anon, even if you don't feel like doing anything, please do it, since doing nothing eats your mind away every single day and that's not fun at all.

>>16845244
It depends anon, where I live I don't feel any sort of safety going out after 7pm. The public transport is always late, everyone is noisy as fuck and many are pigs (e.g. eating something stinky in a closed space like the subway), things like that already make Japan pretty appealing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 01:41:12 2017 No.16845308 The only thing more depressing than ronery threads is ronery threads a decade later, but I still can't decide whether the changes in the board or the changes in the people are more depressing.

Anonymous Tue Apr 11 01:42:08 2017 No.16845310

>>16845297
Thanks anon I'll do my best to take those words to heart. Also to add on to your response to the other dude, sometimes people just want a change of scenery. For me, I really love where I live, but I've lived here all my life and simply think it would be cool to be somewhere else, even if just for a little while.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 01:42:44 2017 No.16845313 >>16845297 Then move to New England or the Midwest, if you're in America.

Anonymous Tue Apr 11 02:41:34 2017 No.16845447

>>16839962
ive been noticing the same thing recently. but what i wonder most about it, is the question of where the next generation is - if 4chan is going to be a hangout for our generation only, then what is the equivalent for the next? how do we teach them how to funpost correctly?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 03:08:09 2017 No.16845508 >>16834604 >late 20s >old I'm only 25, what do

Anonymous Tue Apr 11 04:01:00 2017 No.16845611

>>16777456
Just watch some of the western documentaries on the phenomenon and envision where they are now

https://vimeo.com/28627261

The Mystery of the Missing Million. 2002, 15 years ago, so the guys in this video are in their late 30s at the very least, more like early 40s.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxrjMy713etLcmhrWU1MVGNOT3M/view

Otaku 1994 - 23 years ago, they're in their mid 40s or 50s now

It's really interesting stuff tbqh

Anonymous Tue Apr 11 04:05:01 2017 No.16845623

>>16779847
There are refugees from war torn African shitholes who make it to America or Germany at 32 with even less hope than you have but ten years later, with enough help, they have thriving businesses or a good career in a specific trade. It's never too late anon!

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 04:12:47 2017 No.16845647 >>16845623 Those people never make it into the good life. They always end up in prison.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 04:13:15 2017 No.16845649 >>16806331 >2 years before I was born spooky

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 04:33:10 2017 No.16845690 >>16845649 your 9 years old?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 04:37:00 2017 No.16845699 >>16845690 add 10

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 04:44:45 2017 No.16845713 >>16779847 That's perfectly fine anon. you don't want to marry a gold digger who'll just gonna divorce you and demand child support and alimoney. fuck women. they will always be 3dpd.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 04:46:09 2017 No.16845715 >>16845713 >>>/r9k/

Anonymous Tue Apr 11 04:51:31 2017 No.16845728
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>>16781252
>Eventually you will die, but before you do, you'll realize that nothing you experienced mattered because it will all be gone along with you, soon enough.

Normally I would agree with this last bit. but the truth is, it is very ironic. That despite accepting to yourself that All Is Vain And Vanity, you'd actually want to cling to this life even by just one more day on your last hours.

t. was bedridden for two weeks on a hospital, just wishing for everything to end. but then that ultimate irony kicked in.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 04:56:46 2017 No.16845736 >>16845715 gold diggers exist. and your point is?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 04:58:14 2017 No.16845737 >>16779847 do you even at least shoulder some of the family expenses? if so you'll be fine.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 05:02:38 2017 No.16845744 >>16845736 My point is that you should keep your whining out of threads that have absolutely fuck-all to do with them, and leave it in /r9k/.

Anonymous Tue Apr 11 05:32:00 2017 No.16845782
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>>16795016
Oh, man. I've had a same problem as you for a while. Turns out I found quite a different solution to it than you. I worked extremely hard, both at my career and gym.
I my own mechanic shop now, and have extremely sculpted body.
Still, I am a virgin. Though it doesn't matter as it is one of the least important things.
The most important one is that I have enough money to protect my joytime, and look physically big enough to intimidate anyone into shitting on my hobbies.
Nobody shits on them now, and I have money to indulge them.
This is what it was about. Protecting things that are dear to you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 10:24:34 2017 No.16846566 File: 141 KB, 500x500, getout.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16779510 >>16779799 >>16782719 >>16783122 >>16783176 >>16802991 >normie

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 11:31:51 2017 No.16846886 >>16845611 >he bathes every 6 months god damn

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 12:28:09 2017 No.16847146 >>16845782 So I should get ripped so no one can make fun of me for being an otaku? Sounds like it would work but honestly my current strategy of having no one know that I'm an otaku seems to be working just as well.

Anonymous Tue Apr 11 14:42:02 2017 No.16847825

>>16847146
Im not exactly ripped, I compete in powerlifting, and it comes to me as a fun activity. Being "ripped" is just a side bonus that I don't even take advantage off.
But yes, it would work, but it also has to be fun for you so you would continue to work out.
I just religiously followed the training day in day out, ate a shit ton.
No one questions my hobbies anymore.
I could leave this lifestyle any moment, yet I consider it far more worthier than anything I could get in real life, and I really treasure it too. Ponder upon that a bit.
I am 28 and by no means that experienced in life, but I believe from what I read in this thread that I am the only one that has positive experience with this hobby.

I believe that is because I am working hard for it. Thought I'd give you all my .02.

Anonymous Tue Apr 11 16:36:04 2017 No.16848354

>>16847825
> but I believe from what I read in this thread that I am the only one that has positive experience with this hobby

I mean this thread is pretty depressing and everything but this is probably a bit extreme. It certainly isn't all sunshine and rainbows for me but I couldn't say my experience as a whole with this hobby is negative. I do do it because I enjoy it after all.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 16:52:42 2017 No.16848417 >>16777456 I'm 42, started with Voltron, Robotech, and Tranzor Z on television. Now I read visual novels. Tons of them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 17:06:14 2017 No.16848475 >>16848417 Kind of off topic but what are some favorites of yours?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 22:58:47 2017 No.16849862 >>16847146 Plus, it'd make you healthier and would boost your self-esteem, too. Also, you'd feel worthy to masturbate to more attractive 2hus.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 23:27:47 2017 No.16849972 >>16845048 Shitposting on /a/.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 23:31:57 2017 No.16849982 >>16846886 That's more than me when I was a NEET.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 23:49:44 2017 No.16850035 >>16849982 How? I'm NEET, right now, but I bathe every time I wake up. I also wash my hands constantly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 23:53:34 2017 No.16850048 >>16849862 You're right. Reimu-sama is too good for me as I am right now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 12 00:44:41 2017 No.16850201 >>16850035 Just couldn't be bothered, it's not like anyone was gonna see me anyways. I think my record was a year plus change of not bathing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 12 00:52:09 2017 No.16850228 >>16850201 That's insane. Even when I'm gonna be inside all day I feel too grimy to not bathe.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 12 01:15:46 2017 No.16850320 >>16850228 It's akin to hitting the wall when you're pulling an all-nighter, once you pass it you don't really mind.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 12 01:40:00 2017 No.16850389 >>16850201 I just feel disgusting after waking up, drenched in sweat. Some might call me a clean freak,though. I know my mother does. I guess, on /jp/, either you're too clean or way too dirty.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 12 03:12:25 2017 No.16850580 >>16788041 I'm too embarrassed to link it. It's just a shitty parody of the harem genre coupled with lots of gore and humor to change to mood from time to time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 12 07:37:44 2017 No.16851123 File: 3 KB, 160x54, z!b.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16777456 He's just taking a nap

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 12 07:52:35 2017 No.16851175 they're collecting obscure japanese N64 games, and fruits magazines, and teaching at eikaiwas and stuff because they were obsessive autists but they were productive and less cancerous than today's "otakus" that act like tumblr fangirls

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 12 16:09:04 2017 No.16853193 File: 171 KB, 1024x751, 1485839760619.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 27, ex-neet and I already feel like I'm moving into a hospice.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 12 16:10:07 2017 No.16853196 File: 1.98 MB, 4032x3024, IMG_4158.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16777456 We got out of animes and into shit like pic related.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 12 16:23:32 2017 No.16853236 >>16853196 Australian library manager?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 12 16:37:42 2017 No.16853288 >>16853236 Fucking phone. No. International law. I get a huge erection when I see these books.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 12 17:14:44 2017 No.16853424 Everyone in this thread should seriously read path of least resistance by robert fritz, it helps a lot in making a vision of who you want to be and explains some structures in your life

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 13 00:20:53 2017 No.16854889 >>16845647 Down the street from me is a kosovar that runs his own cab company and owns a small apartment building

Anonymous Thu Apr 13 01:47:22 2017 No.16855096

>>16843602
contrast benign autism with malignant autism

>>16849862
>Also, you'd feel worthy to masturbate to more attractive 2hus.
Not only is this totally true for me the less healthier I've become the more of a chore jacking off is for me now

>>16845447
gen z still posts on 4chan but they usually gravitate to /pol/, /a/ and generals. the monster girl general is a lot younger than your typical /jp/sie and /pol/ is full of 18 year olds screaming about how boomers and millennials tag teamed them to give them a shitty world
coincidentally it's only since last year that I've seen entire threads full of anons unironically referring to loli as kiddie porn
jfc, they really did take the whole degeneracy meme seriously didn't they

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 13 01:49:54 2017 No.16855105 >>16853288 I personally lose complete control of the ol johnson whenever I come across parliamentary procedures or committee minutes. hell yes mr. speaker

Anonymous Thu Apr 13 01:53:11 2017 No.16855116

>>16777456
>submitted to normalcy
Some did, i know guys that actually have even started avoiding it (That is until you get them a tad drunk or high and show them some 2D girls).

Those that still watch anime either evolved and can enjoy modern anime or just remained stuck in time and only watch oldschool anime.

I was one of the latter and then love live happened and fucked my life up,

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 13 01:59:33 2017 No.16855131 >>16855105 Ew. Legislative branch. I prefer the judiciary.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 13 07:12:21 2017 No.16855747 File: 110 KB, 409x776, 1491908406996.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16779307 >most people are into anime for about 12 to 19 months Meanwhile, here I am, coming close to 5 years

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 13 12:51:00 2017 No.16857115 >>16855747 that's great but can you please avoid using /v/ memes?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 13 12:56:23 2017 No.16857145 >>16857115 >/v/ memes That's a /pol/ meme my good sir.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 13 13:03:14 2017 No.16857180 >>16857145 90% of all /pol/ memes are /v/ meme derivatives. /v/ is the original instigator of awful normified board culture on 4chan and I will never forgive them for it

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 13 18:53:59 2017 No.16858609 >>16855116 >and then love live happened and fucked my life up That's rough. Love Live is some of the worst shit out there. Glad I got the hell away from it while I still could.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 13 20:44:16 2017 No.16859084 >>16855116 >only watch oldschool anime. >I was one of the latter and then love live happened and fucked my life up, Well, at least you aren't a fag now.

Anonymous Thu Apr 13 21:01:26 2017 No.16859143
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before this thread prunes, I just want to add something I think has been overlooked in the thread by many people in it: a lot of us have not so much moved on from our previous lives but have been forced to move by circumstances

I myself have really lost a lot of the passion I used to feel for otaku stuff after having to progressively assume caretaking duties for a family member with mental illness. Constantly managing another person's psychotic outbursts is mentally exhausting, but since my country's idea of mental healthcare is a fucking joke I know that what I do will end up keeping my sibling from committing suicide or from being one of those screaming homeless people that wind up in liveleak videos getting assaulted by teenagers.

while I still have time I do want to eventually go to Japan and make the requisite pilgrimages to akiba and a bunch of other otaku tourist sites but after that I guess that'll be it

>>16855131
fight me nerdboy, 1v1 irl right now

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 06:24:40 2017 No.16860473 >>16857180 Not that one, it's a parody of a political event get your memeology studies done

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 10:53:25 2017 No.16861380 >>16859143 Hang in there, I have family and a messed up brother to take care of.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 13:34:48 2017 No.16862004 File: 245 KB, 712x426, madarame stressed.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16861380 Thanks man, I try

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 14:43:55 2017 No.16862272 >>16860473 >get your memeology studies done this is cringeworthy

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 15:46:03 2017 No.16862521 How do you take care of other people? I'm a grown man with a graduate degree and I dont even know how to take care of myself.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 16:33:05 2017 No.16862711 File: 39 KB, 169x193, madarame coat.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16862521 Largely a combination of patience, foresight, and doing lots of chores

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