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This thread is for the discussion of Touhou gameplay. Have you been taking it easy, /jp/?

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>> No.15933385
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LLS Doesn't need a visible hitbox, no sirree

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hard spell

>> No.15933412

>>15933385
Did you live from that...?
That looks a bit tight.

>> No.15933418

Which fighting game is your favorite and why? I prefer 13.5, but I'd also want to git gud at 12.3. 13.5 is rather easy to learn, and has pretty balanced fighting styles for the small roster.

>> No.15933428

>>15933385
That's more of a bullet hitbox issue.

>> No.15933436
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How's everyone doing so far?

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>>15933412
Yup, got through it perfectly fine.

This too, somehow.

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>>15933436
Terrible, as usual.

Whoever pointed out that Medicine breaks the AI in 9 was absolutely right, though.

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>>15933554
>Terrible
My problem is that I've taken to being a Tenshi and challenging things I know I won't beat because I want "to improve". Thus, I either play the crap out of Lunatic, or if I have the option, Extra/Phantasm. Needless to say, I get smacked around like Cirno these days.
I just can't stand how slow the early Normal stages are.

>> No.15933722

>>15933623
Yeah, I've been throwing myself at Extra stages lately, because I've reached all the seemingly attainable goals, so why the hell not? Might as well fail at something cool instead of dying to some random shit on an early stage a hundred times in a row.

That said, between my last post and now, I cleared 10 on Hard, so not everything is terrible.

>> No.15933783

>>15933623
>I just can't stand how slow the early Normal stages are.
This is why I still haven't 1cc'd Imperishable Night. I suck but I won't play on anything easier than hard because of how boring the initial stages are.

Then I get wrecked later on.

>> No.15933847

Haven't done PoFV netplay with anyone in months so I'll try here. I live in the US so preferably no people who live in Europe/Asia because of latency. If I don't respond right away it's probably because I'm in the bathroom or something.

73.53.114.136
port 17723
Adonis 2

>> No.15933885

>>15933847
I would, but I have no clue how to netplay.
Along with that, I also really need to go to bed, so I'll probably turn in after this post.
Is netplay like a private server, or is there any chance of facing a random person on the interweb?

>> No.15933925

>>15933885
PoFV has it's own netplay coding but it's terribly laggy, so people use a third party program called Adonis where there's a host and a client. If you're hosting you'll need to have port forwarding enabled for that port but clients don't need to.

http://pastebin.com/vEiF76Pw

>> No.15933987
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>>15933847
Pretty sure I was hopelessly outclassed and only ever won because Host-san was taking it easy on me, but it was fun nonetheless. Cheers.

>> No.15934001

>>15933987
Yup, fun games. Eiki vs Eiki gets crazy really fast.

My power went out (for a short time, like 30 seconds) almost right after we finished playing which is strange.

>> No.15935317

>>15933554
You don't seem to be doing too bad, though. Shoot for more Hards!

>> No.15935516

>>15933554
Can someone post the complete template please

>> No.15935574

I'm interested in playing SA with a mouse control mod.

I've read around in forums it's some how suppose to be harder, yet that sounds like exaggeration.

>> No.15935837

Jesus. I wonder how many times I've died on Remilia's last spell card now.

>> No.15935924

>>15935837
You can see in the top right corner.

>> No.15935953

>>15935924
It doesn't tell you in th6 in game. I've failed it 30times looking in the score at the title screen but I what I meant was I wonder how many times I've lost a 1cc attempt in that spell card. Some of those are from stage practice.

I don't think I've died this many times since Byakuren. I thought this was going to be easy too since I was already doing so well from the get go.

>> No.15935959

>>15935953
Go to your results screen on the title menu and you can see spell histories there.

>> No.15935974

Is there a way to attempt UFO's spells indefinitely? Like a spell practice.

>> No.15935979

>>15935953
Actually thinking about it. I've surely died the most to utsuho. I think I forgot about her because it was so long ago and I burned out on that game and took a 2month+ break from touhou all together because I just could not beat stage 6. The first time I beat it was also my first time 1ccing it.

I have a feeling legacy lolk is going to be a similar experience. I've been putting that game off for so long.

>> No.15935981

Recently i cleared eosd and in on hard. Still cant 1cc normal though. I practiced enough to 0 death all midbosses/bosses but i struggle on surviving the normal enemies.

How to improve jp? Send help

>> No.15935984

>>15935953
Oh, I thought you were talking about her Last Word in IN for some reason.

But yes,>>15935959 is correct.

>> No.15935993

>>15935974
There's no Spell Practice, but there's an external program that can help with that. Google SpoilerAL, I don't know much about it myself.

>> No.15935995

>>15935984
Oh I forgot all about last words. I still need to do those.

>> No.15936020

>>15935974
Riri's practice tool helped me out loads of times. Download it here: https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,19171.0.html

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>>15935993
Isn't SpoilerAL only for EoSD though

>>15936020
Holy FUCK this works like a dream

Thanks anon

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Man going back to the Pc-98 stuff throws me off so badly sometimes
I haven't touched them very much so when bosses are doing things like firing lasers that move then go stationary, they're still lethal when they're starting to rotate them again instead of unlethal then rotate. Its just unusual because certain things like that I've come to not expect from playing the post 98 games

>> No.15936877

Why is everything must be turned into a goddamn fucking general?
Even touhou generals now... how far we've come

>> No.15936991

>>15936762
You're talking about one of Mai's pattern, right?

I also have a bit of trouble going back to them. Every time, it takes me a few runs to get used to the input lag again.

>> No.15937064

>>15935981
>cleared
Stop using credits, all that dying won't teach you anything.

>> No.15937071

>>15936309
>Isn't SpoilerAL only for EoSD though?
It should work for almost every game.

>> No.15937084

Do you guys play with an updated version of EoSD or the original? I keep seeing people playing a version with updated graphics and visible hitbox but mine is still oldschool.

>> No.15937112

>>15937084
That's a fan patch.
Avoid it.

>> No.15937121

>>15937112
May I know the reason behind such a forbidding? Just curious.

>> No.15937135

>>15937121
It makes you look like an idiot, for one.

And the visible hitbox isn't even accurate to your actual hitbox.

>> No.15937156

>>15937121
Some people dislike it because it's not the way the game was meant to be played, and the new backgrounds don't really look that good.
And it makes you look like an idiot.

>> No.15937208

>>15937121
Because it breaks the art style and makes you look like an idiot. However, you can still use it if you are one of those memesters than "DUN CAE" about that stuff.

>> No.15937306

>>15937121
All the restrictions are arbitrary. But it does make you look like an idiot.

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>>15933436
Alright I guess. Not sure what to focus next. Any suggestions?

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>>15937463
>alright
>100% all of PoFV and most Extras
I don't even
Try a PC-98 game. Avoid PoDD, it's really broken with its mechanics.

>> No.15937530

hell's artificial sun is destroying me

>> No.15937547

>>15937519
PoDD is the good PC98 game though.

>> No.15937739

>>15937084
I use that stuff. Makes the game look much better, and tbqh I think the updated graphics fit the style just fine.

I have no idea why people hold such disdain for those patches, I think they are great. Purists, maybe?

>> No.15937941

>>15937739
They make you look like an idiot.

>> No.15938101

>>15937739
It's less about purism and more that they make you look like an idiot.

>> No.15938151

>>15937739
>Makes the game look much better, and tbqh I think the updated graphics fit the style just fine.

lolno
The sprites for the bosses look hideous and most of the backgrounds don't fit at all.

>> No.15938180

>>15937463
Shit, are you just going for blackout?

>> No.15938185

>>15937547
Funny joke.
PoDD is the only Touhou game where playing pacifist the entire final boss is not only a legit strategy, but the best one from a survival perspective.
It's a game that punishes the player for playing it.

>> No.15938209

Trying to get back into the game. I was never very good and have never beat a Touhou except 8 on easy modu. I've been switching in between Shoot the Bullet, Double Dealing Character, and Scarlet Devil. Fuck these games are hard.

>> No.15938239

>>15938185
It's not a good survival game because of that. But most games aren't fun for survival anyway. You can do a similar thing in PoFV, which is why no-charge runs are possible. I find it more fun to actually shoot things instead of just pacifying them, then there are more things to dodge even if it ends up killing me and it actually feels legit that way.

I'm not sure if I really like PoDD all that much. I 1cced it once on lunatic with Yumemi with like 30m score (ie, not scoring at all) so I'm not experienced in it, but even so, I like it more than the other PC98 games from what I've played of them. It's fast and high energy, trying to set up big reflections/combos gets really intense.

>> No.15938259

>>15938209
>Shoot the Bullet
Yeah, there's your problem.

>> No.15938391

How do you 1cc PoFV? Game always get pretty tedious around 7, 8 stage.

>> No.15938401

>>15938259
Could you explain this to me, my friend?

>> No.15938419

>>15938391
You get 2 initial lives and 5 extends (at 10, 30, 50, 70, 90 million)
Don't die to stages 1-5.
If you die no more than once on each of stages 6, 7 and 8, that leaves you with 4 lives for stage 9, meaning you can go until round 5 Eiki/Reimu. Sure, you could not get an extend or die more on stages 6-8, but it's still pretty generous.

I don't really know what else to say. Dodge the bullets?

>>15938401
Not that anon, but Shoot the Bullet is a difficult game and you should probably have a normal 1cc or two before getting into it in my opinion.

>> No.15938425

>>15938401
That's a game that you might play after 1cc'ing the mainline games on Hard or Lunatic. It's not meant for beginners. Stick with the others for now.

>>15938391
Really? If anything, I find the first six stages tedious since they're just an extended warm-up, and the last three are where the real challenge is. Just budget all your lives for Komachi and Eiki, and you can wear down their death timers to a reasonable amount.

>> No.15938429

>>15938419
I always have 25 mil around Komachi/Eiki. I must do something wrong then but yeah I didn't check how you scoring in this game.

>> No.15938593

>>15938425
>That's a game that you might play after 1cc'ing the mainline games on Hard or Lunatic.
Kinda overshooting there a bit. He said StB, not DS. He should be fine after he gets a few Normal 1ccs.

>> No.15938597 [DELETED] 

Clearing all photos in StB and DS is easier than any Hard 1cc.
All it requires is time and patience.

>> No.15938608

Clearing all scenes in StB and DS is easier than any Hard 1cc.
All it requires is time and patience.

>> No.15938638

>>15938593
It must depend on your playstyle. I can clear games on Hard, and no-item clear through day 4 of ISC, but can't even complete day 2 in StB.

>> No.15938643

>>15938638
>It must depend on your playstyle. I can clear games on Hard, and no-item clear through day 4 of ISC, but can't even complete day 2 in StB.
You're either lying, or you have put absolutely no effort into StB.
I'm guessing the former, but the later wouldn't shock me either.

>> No.15938646

>>15938638
>but can't even complete day 2 in StB.
Seriously? I have day 2 in StB completely cleared, and that was when I only had a handful of Normal 1ccs. I can buy that different people have difficulties with different things but this is too much of a stretch.

>>15938608
As a whole, maybe. Looking at everything individiually though, there's quite a few things that requires a lot of skill to beat. Like that Kaguya spellcard with the yellow bullets that come down, that one is total horseshit.

>> No.15938652

>>15938646
Sure, sure, but everything in StB comes down to trying again and again until you understand the card.
It's a far more fair game than ISC no-items, and I would even say it's more fair than DS, despite the advantages DS gives you.

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>>15938643
It basically becomes Maze of Love but with RNG boss ramming, I can't do that shit.

>> No.15938695

>>15938672
It's very easy to get consistent, just don't stay too close to Cirno.

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>>15938672
I just ran in blind and got it in one. You can't be serious.

>> No.15938787

>>15938769
Wait until later stages. There's one Stage 4 Medicine spellcard and a stage 3 Alice nonspell (3-1?) where you do rather similar things like with what you did on Cirno, but more extreme.

>> No.15938821
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Why not we create decks and beat the stuffing out of each others girl/deck?

>> No.15938824

>>15938821
I'd rather play PoFV with that one anon.

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>>15938787
This didn't really feel anything like Cirno's spell so I guess it's not this one? It did kill me though.
I just don't understand how you can no-item through to day 4 (that's where I got stuck myself as well) in ISC and struggle with early StB.

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>2016
>still not a 天狗マスター
What's your excuse, /jp/?

>> No.15938835

>>15938769
I hadn't tried it in, like, a year, so I went back thinking that maybe I'd gotten better in the meantime, but no. Can't even take the fourth picture. Fuck that spell.

>> No.15938858

>>15933847
I know this will sound autistic, and it is, but where do I download Adonis? Along with that, how do I use it right?

>> No.15938868
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>>15938858
You should be able to find a download for Adonis via google fairly easily.

>> No.15938907

>>15938868
Alright, I had it on my TH9 folder from the start, so I guess we could try a few matches. Want me to host it or you?

>> No.15938909

>>15938907
If you think you can host, go ahead.

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>>15938909
Port number: 12000

>> No.15938929

>>15938916
For future reference, anon, you should really put the ip number in the post as well, as it makes it far easier to connect.
Also, can't connect. Are you using Adonis?

>> No.15938941

>>15938929
I opened 'adonise'.
My IP is in the picture, I felt uncomfortable typing it but rather putting it in an image.

>> No.15938945

>>15938941
Well, I suppose that's fair. Is your port open? You should be able to use a site to check.

>> No.15938948

>>15938929
Wait a minute, it's peer IP, right? Not actual IP?

>> No.15938971

>>15938948
What do you mean? I need your actual ip address in order to connect with you, if that's what you're asking.

>> No.15938974

>>15938948
Alright.
I am going to try a different port number this time, to see if its something weird with 12000.
New port is 10300

>> No.15938993

>>15938974
Still can't connect.
I guess we could try this again tomorrow. I'll mess with stuff on my end and get my ports opened so that I can host games, I guess.

>> No.15939004

>>15938993
Agreed. Apologies that it couldn't be set up by my inexperienced hands.

>> No.15939140

Is there a way to make Clownpiece not go down in her first two nonspells? It's retarded how an attack can go from reasonable to virtually impossible depending on how the boss fucking shuffles around on the top of the screen.

>> No.15939434

>>15938831
>
Everyone has that achievement.
Call me back when you ISC with no items.

>> No.15939453

>>15937519
I don't know man. I tried getting into PC-98 a few times, but I guess it's just not my thing. I've played windows games too much and all the differences are putting me off.

>>15938180
That was original goal. But I don't know if I can handle it, unless I seriously improve my skill. The imbalance in some games is stupid. To the point where lunatic as one character is easier than hard as the other.

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>>15938835
>>15938672

>> No.15940370

Today I'm going to 1cc PCB and TD.
I'll post results later!

>> No.15940452

How do I get a quadruple gohei in DDC?

>> No.15940455
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My first UFO LNBNV. Pretty nice.

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>>15939492
What the fuck. That was so easy. I'd been doing it wrong the entire time. Maybe I've been doing them all wrong.

>> No.15940575

>>15938821
1) This is not a netplay thread
2) Soku fucking sucks, get that shit out of my face

>> No.15940634
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Fuck the three trumpeteers of the fagriver.
I am just about done dodging their lesbian sorceries.

>> No.15940663
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>>15940634
Yes, PCB is more painful than what people make it out to be

>> No.15940681

>>15940634
The sisters as Marisa is really annoying. The first nonspell is an African American that enjoys the sexual company of men.

>> No.15940827

>>15940681
Not that they're any easier as Sakuya.

>> No.15940877

>>15940517
Reminder that StB is a puzzle game. It's not about mindlessly toughing it out, it is about applying your wits.

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YES
Saying stuff out loud or writing it definitely works!
I finally 1cc'd PCB and got a very cute scene.
TD is next!

>> No.15941084

>>15940877
Sure, but I never thought that her movement speed while charging would be enough to outrun the spiral. Maybe I just have to try more seemingly-suicidal approaches.

>>15941018
Nice work.

>> No.15941190

>>15940681
>The sisters as Marisa is really annoying.
What? Marisa by far has the easiest start. Practically all of Lyrica's non-spell patterns are just streaming. Not to mention lasers eat right through the sisters.

>> No.15941301

>pulled off a LNB7M in SA a couple days ago
>decide to try again, aiming for 6 or less misses
>miraculously perfect stage 4, which I've only ever done once
>first miss at wild cat walk, the run was looking like it could be a good improvement from my 7 miss run
>somehow perfect the rest of the game when I haven't even perfected stage 6 by itself in practice mode
>walk away with a bittersweet LNB1M
It hurts. I should be happy but it hurts.

>> No.15941315

>>15939492
This. I really don't understand how the first two stages were hard in the slightest.

>> No.15941325

>>15940634
I can beat them, but they drained so many of my resources that I lost the 1cc on midboss Stage 5 Youmu.

>> No.15941338

>>15940575
Spooky Soku! Oooooh noooooo!

>> No.15941351

>>15941301
Great job!
SA LNB must be harder than others, isn't it? The patterns are tough, and your extends gain relies pretty heavily on bombs to prevent misses.
Going from 7 to 1 miss is still a huge improvement. With practice, it's only a matter of time before you can do it reliably. I say that but I can't seem to get any better than 6 misses on IN... I should practice Hourai Jewel on day.

>> No.15941457

SA LNB is average difficulty, but 1 miss is pretty super.

>> No.15941530

>>15941301
no difference between 1 and 7 miss in SA IMO, as theres only 1 hard pattern
just go for ellenen then get bored after 2 credits and play for score instead

>> No.15941557
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15941557

People talking about LSA and here am I celebrating that I got my TD 1cc and made >>15940370 true.
Anyways, Miko's last spell seems pretty hard, I bombed a lot, but I'm happy I finally got PCB and TD 1cc at least!
Next stop: Hard IN 1cc and LoLK 1cc and maybe IN's extra clear

>> No.15941717

>>15941557
I guarantee that it only seemed hard because you hadn't seen it (many times?) before, and panicked. It's probably the easiest final spell card, not counting the Saigyou Ayakashi nonsense, and even one of the easiest cards in its own fight. It's a theatrical-type that makes for a cool ending to a cool stage.

You should practice Miko a bit, then try getting Reimu's secret ending.

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This game doesn't need to be fair, just keep on blocking my attacks with unlimited usage, sure.
Sure, you can knock me back from that one projectile, yeah.
No, drop kicks are fiiine. Totally not unbalanced.
Fuck this game. Even Normal is like trying to play Monopoly with a renowned cheater, except you can't call them out and penalize them (Reimu's Exorcism, Aya's lack of a warning with some spells, Tenshi's spells)

>> No.15941743

>>15941717
>Reimu's secret ending.
W-what? Yeah it was my first time making it that far against Miko.

>> No.15941753

>>15941724
stop playing fangames

>> No.15941770

>>15941753
SWR is official...?

>> No.15941778

>>15941743
Every character in Ten Desires has a secret parallel ending that you unlock by 1cc'ing the game on at least normal with 4 bombs in stock, if I'm not mistaken.
Most of them are really fun, so they're worth going for at some point.

>> No.15941784

>>15941724
Get a better deck.
Abuse powerful attacks, remember that you do have a small period of time to charge something up before an enemy's spellcard starts.

>> No.15941789

>>15941778
4 bombs? That seems good if I ever try to NM it.

>> No.15941977

>>15941770
He's saying you should playing kuso games, which you should.

>> No.15942031

>>15941778
>>15941789
Three, actually. You have to see that character's good ending, attempt the Extra with them(?), then 1cc again but have at least three bombs in stock at the end. It's really not that hard to pull off, but does require that you you know your way around Miko's fight, and her last card especially.

All the endings from that game are pretty good, but Youmu's secret ending is by far the best.

>> No.15942044

>>15942031
I would say so, since it must have Yuyuko in it.
Still, I don't like her shot

>> No.15942129

>>15942044
Youmu's normal ending is a big part of why I can't stand Yuyuko, actually.

>> No.15942137

>>15942129
Now that's triggering. I guess I'll have to do it just to see how is it

>> No.15942407

>>15942031
I'm pretty sure Extra is unneeded. Beating it simply reveals the unlock conditions.
My personal favorite is Marisa's. I think it's cute.

>> No.15942416

>>15941530
go back to bed, chum

>> No.15942444

>>15942129
Why? It's inline with her behavior in IN.

>> No.15942466

>>15941789
Why NM? Your bomb stock doesn't reset upon death in TD.

>> No.15942468

>>15942407
Oh, that makes sense. The wiki only mentions them on the Talk page, and the thread is a bit of a mess, so I must have misread something and got the wrong idea.

>>15942444
Well, yes, I just don't like her behavior. Plus, I like Youmu, so it's hard to like Yuyuko very much.

>> No.15942476

>>15942468
Yuyuko is like a mother to Youmu. She teases her for her own good.

>> No.15942520

>>15942466
Yeah my bad, I meant NB

>> No.15942767

>>15942520
Why not NMNB?

>> No.15942868

>>15942767
Because I'm not good enough yet

>> No.15943044

>>15941351
Thank you! I will keep practicing. Good luck with your runs too.
>SA LNB must be harder than others, isn't it?
I don't know what the consensus is, but SA is the game I got into the series with by the recommendation of a friend and it's the only game I can consistently 1cc Lunatic on since I spent the most time with it, so my proficiency in the games is rather skewed. For example, I still can't even 1cc Lunatic in IN at all.

>> No.15943625
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Somehow managed to mess up every spell on s6 except for Yuyuko's 2nd. Please kill me.

>> No.15947192

I am so tired of the spaghettiOs bullets on stage 5 in SA.
It's the hardest part of stage 5, honestly. Fairies are all assholes.

>> No.15947425

>>15947192
Right, took me a second, I've always thought of them as 'sprinkles'. And yeah, fuck them. The visible spin tends to mess with your perception of their trajectory, which is a huge pain in the ass.

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>>15942129
Woah I actually got that normal 1cc with Youmu on my first attempt
I love Yuyuko even more now, thank you for the suggestion! (Spoilers are actual spoilers)

>> No.15948353

>>15948295
Oh, congratulations.

>> No.15948458

ReimuC is all kinds of awful in MoF: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WThaxbMrmNk

>> No.15948486

>>15948458
Why don't you score the full game

>> No.15948538

>>15947192
You can time down midboss Orin's noncards to eliminate most of the spam section. Actual strat.

>> No.15948595

>>15933381
Thanks to upgrading to Windows Ten I have had to semi retire from playing at the moment as I can't get the damm games to work properly at all, and I can't torrent or re-program for all the tea in Celyon!

>> No.15948598

>>15948486
w-why

>> No.15948684

>>15948486
because scoring is for autists

>> No.15948688

>>15948684
What's this supposed to mean?

>> No.15948821

>>15948595
I can run almost every game perfectly in 10, without changing a single thing from older versions. The only exception is 6, with vpatch, launched through AppLocale, but I fixed it by using a different locale emulator. You can make them work if you try.

>> No.15948962

>>15948821
Fullscreen in 6, 7 and 8 are fucked up for me in Win10. For 6, it feels like it's running 600 frames a second or something, but only in fullscreen, and 7 and 8's fullscreens just aren't properly positioned, so I can't see the very bottom of the game, including places I can move to.
So far I've been band-aid fixing these by just playing with windows magnifier, but are these known issues? Are there any fixes?

>> No.15948987

feel like LOLK lunatic Sanae is a sick bombfest

>> No.15949183

>>15948962
>For 6, it feels like it's running 600 frames a second or something, but only in fullscreen,
This is a common problem that has nothing to do with Win10. It's a graphics thing.
>7 and 8's fullscreens just aren't properly positioned, so I can't see the very bottom of the game
Your graphics are fucked up man

>> No.15950562
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I'm starting to go insane here. The hitbox is too fucking big.

>> No.15950609

>>15950562
For you.

>> No.15950610
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What Touhou game should I play as my first one

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>>15950610
Imperishable Night is regarded as the easiest. Also has the best soundtrack out of the first iteration of Windows games.

Double Dealing Character is pretty laid-back. You easily gather lives and bombs.

Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom on Pointdevice mode is good practice, it forces you to get good quickly unless you want to deal with 4269 attempts on Fake Apollo. It's a very good game for getting used to the controls and basic concepts such as streaming/routing. It's basically a Touhou tutorial.

People will have you start of Embodiment of Scarlet Devil, but make no mistake, it's a hard game. No hitbox and no mechanics to help you nab lives quickly. There's no real story to Touhou, the dialogue is all weird jokes so you're not missing any crucial plot if you start at a later game.

PCB is a bit hard. Things get pretty crazy on level 4. I think of it as the most draining Touhou, if that makes sense. It was my first and the one I got merked on more than any other, so I'm probably biased.

Experiment with different characters and methods of dodging.

All of the games are easily found on the internet.

Have fun.

>> No.15950948

>>15950728
>>15950610
>Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom on Pointdevice mode is good practice
No, it's not, if you start there you'll get frustrated and go insane and drop the series for being unfun shit. Get used to playing the normal games before trying LoLK.

>> No.15950991

>>15950948

Don't critisize that Anon's learning methodology, Anon. I got into Touhou by playing Subterraanin Animism Lunatic untill I could beat the second stage using all my continues, then switched to normal mode.

If I was the one offering my opinion to a newbie, I would recommend that exact method. Trial by Fire is a powerful motivator that some people will respond to better than a standard/gradual learning curve.

>> No.15951022

>>15950991
Even so, LoLK is a terrible game to start with. Pointdevice mode encourages you to play the same little part over and over until you're burnt out, then keep going, because there's no natural breakpoint of the game telling you that you're done. Unless you intentionally take a break every thirty minutes or hour or whatever, it's extremely easy to get stuck in a spiral of getting more frustrated, leading to worse play, less learning, and less progression. Plus, as someone's first game, it give a really inaccurate representation of the series.

If you want to suggest he follow your original approach, that's more reasonable, it's just LoLK that's an insanity trap.

>> No.15951024

>>15950728
I heard Mountain of Faith is good for beginners, too. When I tried getting into Touhou years ago, I started with Imperishable Night and the time mechanic fucked me over so many times I just gave up. I'm trying to start again, but I don't think I have the tenacity to persevere.

>> No.15951074

>>15951024

Virtue of Wind God(normal)was a nigh insurmountable wall for me, even midway through my second year of playing Touhou games. If he does start with MoF, I wish him the best of luck with that card.

>> No.15951181

>>15950562
>99+
Huh, that was a LoLK thing.

>> No.15951185

>>15951181
>that was a LoLK thing.
*I thought that was a LoLK thing.

UFO is getting in my head man, I can't believe I forgot a third of the sentence.

>> No.15951325

>>15950728
How is PCB harder than IN?

>> No.15951383

>>15951325
It isn't.

Anyone who goes
>but muh stage 4
is conveniently forgetting that Marisa, the IN stage 4 boss you're most likely to run into, is batshit insane and much harder than anything you'll find in PCB stage 4. And then there's the fact that Yuyuko is one of the easiest final bosses of the series.

>> No.15951407

>>15950728
I don't think that we should base the first game thing around difficulty. Just have him play EoSD or MoF

>> No.15951426
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15951426

Do you get different endings in PCB for using variants of the same character? (from girlA to girlB)?

>> No.15951432

>>15951426
Yes. That's the case in every game, there's a good ending for each shot type.

>> No.15951437

>>15951426
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Cherry_Blossom/Story

>> No.15951440

>>15951432
Interesting, and kinda expected. Guess my next stop is 1cc normal PCB with every shottype
>>15951437
no.

>> No.15951465

>>15951383
>>15951325
I found IN to be much easier to 1cc simply because it gives you a shit ton of resources, so if you know how to bomb you don't have to learn the game much at all. Not to even mention that extended deathbomb time during spellcards.

The danmaku itself isn't harder in PCB, maybe with the exception of Yuyuko being harder than Kaguya but still easier than Eirin.

>> No.15951998

>>15951383
I found Marisa pretty easy actually, just like everything else in IN. Sorry you're shit at the easiest Touhou, dude.

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>>15951998
>but i, the most important person in the world, think differently
Congratulations.

>the easiest Touhou
Says a lot about your skill level if you honestly consider IN to be "the easiest Touhou".

>> No.15952190

>>15951440
That link showed that yes, each of the six shots have different endings.

>> No.15952392

>>15951383
>>15951325
IN is literally the easiest 2hu almost everything is static, do it once never fail again (unless you're literally retarded) and the few parts that aren't random are either really easy or can be cheesed in some way
There's a reason why its always recommended to beginners

>> No.15952414

>>15952392
That's nice but MoF is still easier

>> No.15952443

>>15951465
>a shit ton of resources
Even when compared with a game where you can easily reach 7 lives by stage 4?

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15952558

What's the consensus on TH09?
I really didn't like the split-screen aspect, nor the fact that beating the AI was based solely on luck(in my experience), and fights would drag for ages and become repetitive.
Also, fuck this cunt.

>> No.15952576

>>15952392
'Static' doesn't imply 'easy', and regardless, there's plenty of RNG in 8. It also depends on what playstyle you're most comfortable with; if you're not good at microdoging and multi-directional dodging, 8 becomes incredibly difficult.

>>15952558
It's great. You should try playing against another person, which is when it actually gets exciting.

>beating the AI was based solely on luck
It's on a death timer. Admittedly, the single-player isn't the best, but I still enjoyed it.

>> No.15952596

>>15952558
Tbh it's pretty fuckin intense to me. Though I do find it hard to grae most of the time, and mashing the shot button is tiring.

It's fun nontheless.

Also, please don't insult my Yama-sama, my dude.

>> No.15952608

>>15952558
I liked the concept of danmaku battle. Never found anyone to play with me though.

>> No.15952613

>>15952558
it's okay alone, not as interesting as the main games, but with another player it's the most fun I've had with a touhou game

>> No.15952618

>>15952558
+ 2 good characters out of it
+ good for 2 players
- bad in 1 player mode
- charge mechanic
- having to mash Z
- music
- screen layout

If it controlled like the other games it wouldn't be that bad tho

>> No.15952632

MOF is my favorite Touhou game but I've already 1cc'd it with all characters on normal and hard/lunatic are still out of my league.

I miss playing it but it'd feel like a waste to replay an already cleared game when I have so many ones left to clear.

>> No.15952654

>>15952632
Go for a hard clear man.

>> No.15952685

>>15952558
I found the single player campaign to be an exciting RNG puzzle with brutal dodging on Lunatic. Music is nice. Controls were confusing at first, but then it was okay. I won the genetic lottery in being resistant to nerve damage RSI, so I have no problem with tapping. The screen layout does its job, not sure how it could be better, although I guess in single player it is largely useless to watch the AI.

I'm too much of an aspie ever to play with another human being, so no comment on multiplayer.

>> No.15952717

>>15952654
Just played it on hard to test out, I can barely make it to the end of the third stage.

It's going to take a lot of training, but I think that's really the next step for me.

>> No.15952722

>>15952717
No pain no gain bro.

>> No.15952735

>>15952596
>>15952618
Sorry I have to bring this up every time, but it bothers me when people say that they have to mash the shot button in PoFV. You don't have to do it all the time since chain reactions exist and you can use your level 1 charge instead, depending on the character, for possibly even greater effect than just shooting repeatedly.

>>15952558
It's one of my favorite Touhou games.

>> No.15952777

>>15952632
You should try the Extra, it's much easier than Hard in that game, and Suwako's cards are pretty fun.

>> No.15952851

>>15952777
I've tried it, I can beat like 4 of her spells and that's it. I find Nue to be a lot easier (UFO is the only extra i've beaten so far).

>> No.15952860

>>15952851
Try out Ran, too.

>> No.15952866

Why is stage 4 always a ball buster? I can get to stage four easily in Mountain of Faith, Perfect Cherry Blossom, and EoSD, but progress stops there because the difficulty skyrockets.

>> No.15952915

>>15952866
>get to stage 4 without losing any life and only a couple of bombs
>lose a life or so during the stage
>lose 2 lifes to boss
>ragequit

Most of my runs summed up...

>> No.15952976

>>15952392
>There's a reason why its always recommended to beginners
That reason being "lol 8 is the easiest 2hu gaym xD" being a meme. How about you actually PLAY the fucking games, eh?

>>15952558
Garbage game that belongs in the garbage.

>> No.15953068

>>15952851
Interesting. Suwako is unique among the Extra bosses I've attempted because the fight is almost completely dependent on knowing what you're doing (and because it's the only one I can clear). If you understand each card's gimmick, you can get through with just mediocre dodging skill. Even her patterns are easy. Froggy Braves the Elements, Suwa War, and Mishaguji-sama are the only actual skill-testers, so overall, I found her fight to be easier than Kanako's on Normal.

I've never actually made it to Nue, always fucking up UFO collection and giving up on the stage before reaching her. Is her fight at all similar?

>>15952976
You belong in the garbage.

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"By the way, this garden is pathetic"
why is she so great?
I think I'm getting used to her fight, but I still can't capture reflowering 30%. One of the red butterflies always seems to get me and at that point I always get a bit lazier resulting in a bomb + border fest.
>>15952717
>I think that's really the next step for me.
It definitely is. Remember your first run in normal? How did that go? In my case, i could go past Meiling. Playing higher difficulties is like starting all again sometimes, but it feels trilling.
>>15952735
>You don't have to do it all the time
Having to do it in the first place is a bother. GFW doesn't have this problem tho, maybe because the game itself is just better
>>15952866
I also hated stages 4 before, they are hard, long, boring and usually streaming shitshows, but for some reason, after practicing I actually like some of them. Maybe because it feels great when something that used to be hard is easy, or idk. I always loved SA's, UFO's and TD's stage 4, mainly because of the music and atmosphere.

>> No.15953158

>>15952558
Only played single player, too backwards to play multiplayer (along with having no friends).
It's fun, but Eiki ruins many of my 1cc attempts, so I know your pain Anon.

>> No.15953283

>>15952153
>Says a lot about your skill level if you honestly consider IN to be "the easiest Touhou".
Yeah, because that would be UFO, right?

>> No.15953289

>>15953283
Fuck off MaZe, go shit the /v/ thread

>> No.15953441

>>15948962
There's a directx converter on the touhou wiki that'll fix you up :)

>> No.15953768

Finally beat ESoD on hard. Very weird how it happened too. I don't remember playing touhou yesterday or today. I was feeling tired but it's too early to go to bed so I decided to play. I got the 1cc on my first try. Needless to say I'm not tired anymore.

I think I got my first normal SA 1cc on the first attempt of the day also. If I remember correctly I died in stage 1 and again in stage 2 but kept on playing anyway for practice and ended up beating it.

Anyway time to learn Flandre.

>> No.15953957

>>15952153
I mean, even on Lunatic IN is an acceptable answer to "which game is the easiest?" It showers you in bombs, and smart familiar destruction negates some of the dodging.

>> No.15954643

>>15953768
In my opinion, the nonspell Flan phases are really easy if you've fought Ran or Yukari before, as they're really similar. The spellcards, though, are where I started messing up real bad. The first spell from what I remember was a 45 second or so survival spell with balls coming at you in all directions.

>> No.15954652

>>15954643
I've heard people insist that Cranberry Trap is easy once you understand it, but I never could.

For me, Maze of Love is where everything falls apart.

>> No.15954666

>>15954652
Personally I still don't know how Cranberry Trap works. I just get under Flandre and dodge using common sense, it ends very quickly with the amount of damage. Feels like 10 seconds.

>> No.15955137

>>15954643
I've beaten pcb's extras. I haven't been to Flan yet. I'll work on that today.

>> No.15955172

I love EoSD for its music, characters, etc, but I'm on the verge of giving up playing it. It's so buggy it's very rage-inducing.

>4 bombs
>shit, something's heading right towards me, better bomb
>press bomb button
>it fails
>die

>> No.15955180

>>15955172
Are you using the vsync patch? If not it's entirely possible you're just playing under a ton of input lag. EoSD isn't particularly buggy as far as core gameplay goes.

>> No.15955205

>>15954652
>I've heard people insist that Cranberry Trap is easy once you understand it, but I never could.
I don't remember very well but starting in the center and making square motions in the lower half of the screen worked for me.

>> No.15955342

>>15955172
Like anon said, you might not be using the vpatch, which is pretty much a requirement to play EoSD these days. Or else your keyboard is busted.

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>>15955180
>>15955342
Am I? I don't see it...

>> No.15955446

Damn, I was so close to getting a Lunatic 1cc but then I decided to lose 4 lives in the last stage

>>15955438
I don't see any vpatch.exe

>> No.15955463

>>15955438
So you don't.

1) Download this http://www.mediafire.com/file/n7va6o67cyamani/VsyncPatch.zip
2) Go to VsyncPatch rev4 folder inside zip
3) Drop "vpatch_th06.dll", "vpatch.ini" and "vpatch.exe" into EoSD's folder
4) Rename the game executable to 東方紅魔郷
5) Run vpatch.exe
6) Report back

>> No.15955628

>>15936020
Holy fuck bless you
Does anyone have this like these for other games?
Spell practice mode is how I finally cleared three IN extra stage

>> No.15955687

>>15955628
He made ones for SA and LoLK, as well.
SA: https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,19187.0.html
LoLK: https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,18847.0.html (only works with 1.00a)

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>>15955463
Is this to be expected?

I tested some deathbombings and it seems to be better, nevertheless. Don't know if placebo though.

>> No.15955830

>>15955725
Random anon not related to the vpatch(I find it easy without vpatch, but stage 4 is a run ender for me. Still a fun stage 4) but what program allows you to use the .dat files?

>> No.15955840

>>15955725
First time seeing this. No idea what could be causing it.

Try using AppLocale or Locale Emulator to run vpatch in Japanese locale (either that or change your computer's locale settings, both should work). Maybe that's the issue.

>> No.15955902

Why is the game over theme for UFO and other games an extract from 10's Kanako's theme?

Is there a reason for this or is it just random?

>> No.15955921

>>15955902
I guess ZUN just thought it was a good gameover/player's score theme and didn't feel like making a new one for every game on a screen you'll barely spend any time on.

>> No.15955943

>listening to game music while playing
>not turning on only sound effects or idols + sound effects

>> No.15955945

>>15955943
This is some pretty weak bait but sure i'll reply to you.

>> No.15955996

If you listen to game music you either haven't played enough to get tired of it, or you're some super mega autist.

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>> No.15956190

>>15955943
Who are you quoting?

>> No.15956498

>>15952558
It's weird at first, but it's actually a ton of fun once you get the mechanics down. Most of that fun requires netplay, admittedly.
> nor the fact that beating the AI was based solely on luck(in my experience), and fights would drag for ages and become repetitive.
In story mode they're on a timer, actually. As for free matches, that depends on your character. Some characters like Marisa have to wait for the ai to fuck up, while others like Aya and Medicine can just sort of force it.

>>15952608
If I can get netplay working on my end, I could host here.

>>15952618
>-having to mash Z
You really only need to press it rhythmically at one second intervals. You clearly haven't played a Touhou game that actually requires mashing (SoEW and PoDD)

>- charge mechanic
>- music
That's just bad taste.

>> No.15956524

>>15955996
Is this bait?

Please end yourself

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>>15954652
Remember, purple is static, blue is aimed.

>> No.15956663

I thought the blue laser in Honest man's death didn't hit you, why am I getting killed by it?

>> No.15956680

>>15956663
Honest Man's Death is a very easy card, but it's all about knowing the properties of lasers in IN.
Basically, Lasers in IN have no hitbox for the first second that they're active, which is to say when the sprite appears. This means that, during Honest Man's Death, simply moving slightly toward the laser will prevent it from hitting you. That's all you need to do to avoid all the lasers in that card.

>> No.15956686

>>15956663
That card is a stupid cheapshot.

>>15955996
I agree. I can't listen to the same thing more than 10 times.

>> No.15956937

Trying to play touhou in my laptop without my monitor is a pain. When I fullscreen them, they stretch to fit my monitor (1366x768), which doesn't look very well, and when I play in windowed mode, it's too tiny to see anything at all.
How can I fix this?

>> No.15956994

>>15956937
You're pretty much out of luck. Normally, you could use vpatch to pixel-double them, but that would be 1280x960, which is too big for your display. If you use vpatch to set a resolution that's not an integer multiple of the original, it only uses nearest-neighbor scaling, so the result will look like absolute shit. If windowed is really too small, I'd say fullscreen is your next best option.

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>>15956994
Well that's too bad

>> No.15957047

>>15956937
Get a new monitor.

>> No.15957134

>>15957047
>New monitor
>laptop
Anon can't really do that...

>> No.15957160

>>15957134
Then you should've bought a desktop.

>> No.15957212

>>15957134
Stop playing on a laptop.

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15957226

I only play the sidescrolling fighting games, what does that make me anons?

>> No.15957240

>>15957134
what kind of fucking retarded laptop doesnt have an hdmi, vga or DVI port
connect it to your tv

>> No.15957289

>>15957226
A pretty okay guy

>> No.15957292

>>15957226
A decent guy, would probably share a pizza with you while having fun on new years eve, then never see each other again.

>> No.15957299

>Playing 2hu on anything other than a CRT monitor
>Who am I quoting

>> No.15957311

>>15957299
I want to purchase a CRT some day.
What would you recommend, anon?

>> No.15957316

>>15957311
A cyanide pill.
Why would you want that archaic trash?

>> No.15957320

>>15957316
Display lag

>> No.15957330

>>15957311
Sony FW900 or any Trinitron
If you just want it for the input lag then any non-HD CRT monitor will do.

>> No.15957358

>>15950991
I actually kind of agree.

I've always played main Touhou games on and off for years never beating them, mostly just getting frustrated at having to waste time climbing back through the first 3 stages after screwing up.

But after playing through LoLK on Pointdevice mode I discovered I was actually finally able to 1cc the older games. It's not like I don't realize LoLK is kind of a shitty game with very strange choices and ZUN really should've taken more time on the gameplay I think.

But a baptism by fire actually worked fantastic for me as the ease I could simply replay sections to learn to dodge danmaku and the intensity carried over and I finally nailed the skills I had been missing the whole time.

>>15951022
See the problem is some are actually better at approaching learning by simply poking at a problem intensely for a short while and walking away and resting and coming back later. Pointdevice lets you do that since it's just a quick save.

The only other game which really allows that is UFO and the StB type games.

Incidentally my favourite Touhou game is GFW and is actually the only game I ever 1cc'd before the LoLK baptism. So not sure what that says about me since I understand GFW is considered a oddball?

>> No.15957374

>>15957047
>>15957134
>>15957240
I do have a decent monitor though. I was asking in the hypotheticalal scenario where I must play on laptop.

>> No.15957375

>>15950948
But LoLK is trash.

Why would you EVER play that.

It's like entering the series with fucking Shoot the Bullet or Double Spoiler.

>>15951024
Play with Marisa B. Remember the Nuke configuration.

>> No.15957391

>>15957375
>Play with Marisa B. Remember the Nuke configuration.
>Cheat at the game
best way to earn skills lmao

>> No.15957403

>>15957375
>>15957391
Same anon here. I kind of get the feeling that Marisa is the easier character. I always pick her because she is better character-wise than Reimu, but I just tried MoF with Reimu C and got fucking trashed by spell cards I could easily pass by Marisa's dps alone. Should I switch to Reimu if I want to git gud?

>> No.15957415

Speaking of MoF and Marisa, would SA be medium difficulty instead of high difficulty if you could get to 5.00 Power?
MarisaA would have to get her shottype reworked so it's not trash.

>> No.15957417

>>15957391
Hey if you're stuck and outta bombs use the skip button. If you can get past it without it you're fine.

That and MoF is kinda a shit game.

>>15957403
>Homing Shot
>Git Gud
You're killing me.

>> No.15957420

>>15957403
For one thing, the MarisaB bug can easily be fixed with vpatch. Without the bug, MarisaB is basically a weaker version of ReimuB with a bigger hitbox. MarisaC is a very good shot, though, if you learn how to use it.

On another note, ReimuC is trash. Use ReimuB instead. She's the second strongest shot, after MariC.

>> No.15957421

>>15957415
Of course it would be easy, that's a free bomb without losing max power.

>> No.15957432

>>15957420
I've been using Marisa C and setting up her focused shot in front of the bosses during dialogue, I assume that's what you mean. Thanks for the information.

>> No.15957443

>>15957432
Not a problem. Score high.

>> No.15957468

>>15957420
>MarisaC
I just gave it a try, man how could I have overlooked this before? She's awesome!

>> No.15957489

>>15957468
Yep! Best shots to use are ReimuB and MarisaC.

>> No.15957507

>>15957489
Weird, I thought ReimuA was the deal here. Well, to be fair I was more biased to homing shots before but lately I'm starting to appretiate every kind more

>> No.15957509

>>15957507
ReimuA isn't a bad shot either, but stages in MoF are pretty simple regardless.

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>>15957375
Fuck off, shotty.

>> No.15957978

>>15955725
You need to run it in Japanese locale. It's the only game that requires it, since it looks for a game with a japanese filename. For most people using this dll instead works without requiring a locale switch:
https://thpatch.net/wiki/File:vpatch_th06_unicode.zip

>>15955830
...They're data files. What is even your intention?

>>15956937
You can often change how fullscreen applications scale in your graphics card settings. Find out how to do that.

>> No.15957988

>tfw just finished my first ever clear of a game
>its lolk on pointdevice

>> No.15957993

>>15957978
My intention is not to see a fucking "how do you want to open this file type(.fgt)?" again. Just a personal pissyfit I have over Windows 8.1, but that's me.

>> No.15957999

>>15957988
What difficulty?
Congrats on the clear, but if that was Easy, I highly recommend trying the higher difficulties(Lunatic) to really feel the (Lunatic) of Lo(Lunatic)K. Heck, you're probably able to 1cc some of the older games (not SoEW, that's a whole new difficulty).

>> No.15958002

>>15957988
>just finished my first 1 credit clear
>it was MoF with the Marisa B glitch

>> No.15958004

>>15957999
It was on normal and thank you
..time to try to beat the extra

>> No.15958091

>>15957550
You can dislike a game without being someone.
Kill yourself.

>> No.15958165 [DELETED] 

>>15958091
>You can dislike a game without being someone.
Never said you couldn't.
>Kill yourself.
Well, aren't we in a good mood tonight, shotty.

>> No.15958221 [DELETED] 

Who fucked up and got /v/ shitposters here?
Honestly, no one know about those random people you speak of, and no one cares.
If you are here only to call names, leave.

>> No.15958267 [DELETED] 

>>15958221
Speak for yourself dumbass LOL

>> No.15958268 [DELETED] 

>>15958221
Some people become paranoid on thewe threads.
Every time someone post something negative about LoLK people cry FUCK OFF SHOTTY and everytime someone defends LoLK people yell FUCK OFF MARISAFAG.
In reality nobody knows those faggots.

>> No.15958429 [DELETED] 

>>15958221
Whatever, shotty. Maybe if you stopped being a huge shitposter literally everywhere you go, people would leave you alone.

>>15958268
>In reality nobody knows those faggots.
That's some spectacular logic you've got there. I'll let you try to figure out exactly where the hole is, since you deserve a chance.

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>>15958221
I remember someone brought up /jp/ Gameplay threads last night, and it happened to be one of those shitposting threads where that guy who keeps posting some UFO replay won't stop trying to attention whore. I just checked out this thread now because of said mention last night, I apologize if it brought in undesirables at the same time.


To bring up my gameplay progress, I unlocked the Extra stage for Shoot the Bullet last night. I've been trying to take a break from that with a second Normal 1cc for PCB, but I've become too fixated on the points you get from borders and I've been doing stupid things that get my killed early and force me to reset, and I hate it. I never want to play for score if it's like this.

>> No.15958614

>>15957993
Why are you trying to open them in the first place? Why would you see this message ever? If you choose a program that could "open" them you'd just be faced with having to close whatever program that is, which is obviously even more of a bother. Just don't click them.

>> No.15959008

>>15958480
If and when you want to try playing for score, I'd suggest starting with something other than 7, since apparently it's the most complex one. I think other games can be played for score without breaking their mechanics in unimaginable ways, making them a bit more accessible.

>> No.15959041

why don't you try hard?

>> No.15959311

>>15958480
PCB is just too fucking brutal for scoring, not really recommended for beginners, very unforgiving and can be hard to understand at first.

>> No.15959477

>>15959008
>>15959311
99% of people who play Touhou never look past capturing spell cards, and you're telling to back off to one of the 1% who actually cares to play the full game of his own volition?

>>15958480
The dodging may be brutal for you, but that's just how it has to be - practice more and you can do more. Ignore those who are intimidated--they'll never get great scores.

>> No.15959508

>>15959477
I'm not telling him to back off, only to prepare for suffering if he decides to actually go for score. Which does seem to be in said persons interests.

Nothing wrong with survival either desu

>> No.15959534

I'm having a difficult time deciding what game to try to get my first lunatic 1cc. What game did you guys beat first?

>> No.15959554

>>15959534
EoSD. It's just exciting in general with the rampant RNG.

>> No.15959556

>>15959534
IN

>> No.15959563

>>15959534
UFO if you're comfortable with the routing.

>> No.15959579

>>15959554
I was contemplating EoSD especially since i just 1cc'd it on hard but I was under the impression that it's one of the hardest to 1cc on lunatic.

>>15959556
I don't feel like playing IN for some reason.


>>15959563
I really liked UFO but isn't that the hardest of all of them?

Do you guys think I'll be ok with either EoSD or UFO?

>> No.15959594

>>15959534
play your favorite one

>> No.15959603

>>15959579
EoSD Lunatic isn't awful, since the game gives you enough resources to work with (3 bombs per life is pretty solid). Remi would be pretty harsh, but you should be alright.

As for UFO, it is indeed considered the toughest to clear on Lunatic. But with a good route, your resource count should be plenty to work with to get through the game.

>> No.15959661

>>15959534
EoSD was my first lunatic and I still consider it to be one of the easier ones, the difficulty is quite low except a few patterns which are just plain nuts, but the usage of bombs fixes that issue quite easily.

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>>15958480
yo don't call yourself a scrub with all that stuff on your chart

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>>15959008
>>15959311
>>15959477
I do think I need to focus on survival for now. Playing for score seems like a post-Lunatic 1cc goal, and I can't even beat the easier Extra stages at this point. I do think playing the stages up to maybe Stage 4 somewhat optimally is something to strive for at least (once the Prismshivers show up fuck that shit).

Out of curiosity, I think if I ever fully got into playing for score and aiming for an actual WR, I'd be interested in trying Mystic Square. What's the consensus on how easy/hard playing for score in that game is relative to the rest of the series? I just really love how the Dream Bonus works and how there's no autocollect but rather the cards getting full value at any elevation when it's full, even before I cleared the game it really interested me.

>>15960388
It's better to call yourself a scrub when you aren't than to act is if you aren't a scrub when you really are, I prefer not to take any chances else I attract someone much better than me putting me in my place.

>> No.15960836

>can't 1cc EoSD for shit
>decides to play Lunatic mode anyway for the laughs
>get my ass handed to me but some enemy shots and a few spellcards are actually easier to dodge because of the patterns
I fucking hate RNG shit.

>> No.15960853

>>15959579
EoSD is the easiest to beat on lunatic on my opinion. There are some bullshit parts though, like the books or sakuya's last spell.

>> No.15960958

>>15960388
you could have filled this entire chart and still be a scrub

>> No.15960962

>>15960958
How so?

>> No.15960981

>>15960962
having a bunch of 1ccs is meaningless. anyone can do that

>> No.15960986

>>15960962
All those games' difficulty on a 1cc run is not all that can be wished; it would mean putting quantity over quality.

>> No.15960987

>>15960981
>anyone can do that
I beg to differ. I was expecting score though or challenge runs

>> No.15961003

>>15960987
Most scores excluding super talent jap WRs and all LNNs can be gotten by anyone although it requires time commitment of often years. The level of commitment is key difference between 1ccing and "higher" level play.

>> No.15961009

Maybe we should wait a while before making another thread, so /v/ will get bored and leave. This thread has been far too negative.

>> No.15961033

>>15961009
We always wait for page 9-10 so there is no hurry

>> No.15961054

>>15961009
I agree.
Does anyone want to play PoFV, in the meantime?

>> No.15961058

>>15960836
I got to stage 5 hard w/ clears. Honestly, higher EoSD is fun compared to the slowness of Normal.

>> No.15961064

>that feelia when playing all night and you close your eyes and see colorful fireworks on the back of your eyelids

>> No.15961073

>>15961054
I could, give me about 10 minutes.
I'd much rather prefer you host.

>> No.15961077

>>15961064
And then you hear the death sound, following that being the game over theme.
Who are you quoting?

>> No.15961115

>>15961073
Adonis2
8.46.88.14:10800

>> No.15961203

>>15961115
Maybe later, then.

>> No.15961259

>>15961203
Sorry about that, realized I forgot to do something in the time period.

>> No.15961347

>>15961009
>This thread has been far too negative.
What the hell are you talking about? This thread hasn't been any more positive or negative than any of the earlier ones.

>> No.15961423

>>15961347
Yes, it has. You can tell there are more people than usual who aren't regular /jp/ posters, because of all the poor language, insults, argumentativeness, speaking in absolutes, and general low-quality posting. The overall tone is more angry and far less constructive than usual.

>> No.15961456

>>15961423
You know what, you're right. Gave the thread a quick re-read and I did notice more insults than what's usual.

Oh well, better luck next time.

>> No.15961779

>>15961456
you get insults if you suck lol

>> No.15961907

>>15961779
Not funny.
That's the kind of low quality posts >>15961423 talks about.

>> No.15962024

>>15961907
any post without scores is low quality

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>>15962024
Remember that some lesser players can only try to survive!

>> No.15963137

>>15962861
it should be a good incentive for them to git gud

>> No.15964200

Why doesn't ZUN release his games on Steam like civilized developers do nowadays?

>> No.15964884

Dudes
I finally 1ccd my first 2hu game
Perfect cherry blossom was great, even tho i feel that sakuyaA was a bit op, won with her after all.

Anyway, the prismrivers can suck my dick, i fucking hate their pattern while using sakuya.
Now off to 1ccing Embodiement, i started with that one but was too much of a pussy and abbandoned.

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>>15964200
Steam is the worst. It's also anti-ethical to Touhou.

>> No.15965015

>>15964884
I used to use SakuyA on PCB as well, but Merlin kept kicking my ass so hard that I 1cc'd with Reimu.
Good job btw

>> No.15965398

Would anyone like to play PoFV?

>> No.15965483

>>15965398
108.176.244.32:10800
Adonis2

It probably won't be much of a fight, but come at me.

>> No.15965500

>>15965483
Sorry, give me like 10 minutes.

>> No.15965606

>>15965483
Sorry about that, I'm ready to play if you're ready to host.
Or I could host, either way.

>> No.15965623

>>15965606
It's still up, go ahead.

>> No.15965627

>>15965483
>>15965500
>>15965606
Hey look, its my life story!

>> No.15965644
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Shoot the boss is really a lot more fun than I had initially thought it would be.
What do you guys think of it?
Also, Aya is really cool.

>> No.15965646

>>15963137
rude bully fuck off

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>>15965644
I couldn't get into it at all when I first played it, it was much too hard for me (I was playing the games in order, had played everything before StB but nothing after). I went back to give it another shot after clearing every game on Normal, since it seemed a lot less daunting after clearing SA/UFO/GFW/LoLK, and I ended up loving it. It's still brutally hard to me, but spending an hour on a single card and then FINALLY clearing it is a great feeling. Just got the 66th clear required to unlock the final stage the other day, taking a break from it now. ISC was also a ton of fun, though I'm waiting until I get as close to 100% as I can reasonably achieve in StB before going all in on Double Spoiler.

>> No.15965689

>>15965644
Shoot the BULLET, anon.
It's one of my favorite Touhous to play, and the soundtrack is divine. I also love trying to complete the game, no matter how hard some patterns are, for the lovely commentary that Aya says.
Patchouli is still my waifu though, but if ZUN fucks with Psyche too much, I'm hopping on to Aya's wacky mind.
TL;DR: I love StB, along with Aya.
I gotta stop typing about the tengu, lest I develop a lust.

>> No.15965702

>>15965483
Sorry, my ethernet cable decided to stop working again.

>> No.15965726

>>15965702
Oh, good, I was worried you might have thought I quit from being bullied too hard.

Actually, I find playing with other people fun even when there is a gulf in skill. Does anyone know of a better way to do it than the occasional post in these threads? I tried joining the Moriya Shrine Discord channel once, but they're a bunch of underage honest-to-god-autists, so that didn't end well.

>> No.15965768

>>15965726
There was a semi active irc, but they only have about 4 people now and they haven't changed anything in 2 years.

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me playing 2hu

>> No.15965849

>>15965837
Holy shit you're a fucking monkey!

>> No.15965938

>>15965849
>>>/pol/

>> No.15965957

What games have spell card practice?

>> No.15965964

>>15965957
IN, TD and DDC.

Or get SpoilerAL.

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>>15965726
>Does anyone know of a better way to do it than the occasional post in these threads?
There's this Discord server which contains a channel dedicated to PoFV play: http://discord.gg/Gwdvk5Z

>> No.15966294

>>15966235
How inactive is it?

>> No.15966300

>>15966294
very

>> No.15966313

>>15966300
So, its just another dead place.
When was the last time more than four english speaking pofv players were online in a place at once?

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>>15966294
Usually active enough for the host to get someone to play with him. Unless you're asking during a really bad time in the day.

>>15966313
I doubt the person you're responding to is even a member of the server, let alone someone who actually plays PoFV.

>> No.15966394

>>15966335
I was there for 3 months, looked pretty inactive to me.

>> No.15966433

>>15966313
About 2 years ago, maybe.
My memory is faulty.

>> No.15966438

>>15966433
Wasn't there a tournament around then?

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>>15966394
The server has undergone changes in the time that you've been absent. Though that doesn't mean that it's sprawling with activity all of a sudden, it's just more active now than it was back when you left. There's been some restructuring in terms of channel-content and rules some weeks ago.

>> No.15966446

>>15966438
Yes

>> No.15967272

kill me

>> No.15967278

>>15967272
WR soon

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15967285

oh my god WHY

FUCKING STAGE 5

WHY IS THAT SEGMENT AFTER THE TITLE CARD/BEFORE THE THREE UFO FAIRIES SO FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE

i can do the rest of the level (read: level) just fine, but FUUUUCK

I HATE THIS SHIT

shou too, if only because of that stupid spell with the giant lasers that spin around that screen, it's complete bullshit

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>>15967285
>i can do the rest of the level (read: level)

I did read level, since that's what you wrote the first time.

>> No.15967314

>>15967285
Are you killing the big faries before they shoot a 2nd spread of arrows?

>> No.15967472

>>15967285
I should probably mention I'm talking about Hard mode UFO. It's fine in Normal but in Hard it's just bullshit.

>>15967299
I dunno, I thought someone might go "oh come on if shou is easy for you then you should stop whining". Which is alright, maybe I /should/ stop whining, but Shou is not easy for me. She's relentless.

>>15967314
I'm trying, the red bullets everywhere make it kind of hard to get to where I need to. The second fairy almost always gets to fire the second wave, forcing me to bomb if I don't get a lucky red bullet pattern.

>> No.15967991

>>15967472
A few pointers.

Use a good shot.
Don't die to Murasa survival.
Memo.

I have no issues with this section as ReimuA, I just sit below their spawn and they never fire two waves, the first one doesn't even fire a single one.

If you don't have 4 power you probably have bigger issues.

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I have a question for gamepad players. Which gamepad do you use, how good do you think you're at the game with it? I really like playing with KB but my left hand occasionally starts to hurt when playing for a while, so I'm thinking of getting a gamepad (I don't own any right now) to try how it feels.

>> No.15969288

Looks like the furthest I can get before a continue is stage 5 in SA. Satori makes me wastes a bit too many resources, somehow and stage 5 finishes me off.
Still, the game is damn fun with Marisa B. I also think this shot type is much more appropriate for the whole game than most others (well, Reimu A is still number 1 but that's many because it's fucking OP). I also found Satori's cards much easier with Marisa B than the others, just gotta practice with it.

I just don't understand her bomb. Is it an equivalent of Dream Sign? Because I find it to be particularly weak and the invulnerability window also seem to be pretty short.

>> No.15969375

>>15969288
Each ring is its own mini-bomb that does a certain amount of damage, so you want to try to get close before using it. The fact that it doesn't move with you is definitely Patche's biggest downside.

As for Satori, she's not too bad as Patche. You should be able to do the first two cards, and then just bomb through the last one because fuck Philosopher's Stone. Going into stage 5 with low power isn't ideal, but it's better than dying.

>> No.15969649

Oh btw, is it just me or do the projectiles reflected by the Suika bomb in SA actually damage Utsuho when she's at her last spell card? I could have sworn her life was decreasing when I was using a bomb.

>> No.15970126

>>15965644
I really enjoyed it. Would recommend Double Spoiler as well, but DS spoilt me by introducing the better girl and mechanics that make it hard to go back to StB.

>> No.15970140

>>15968519
>I really like playing with KB but my left hand occasionally starts to hurt when playing for a while
What fingers are you using for shift z x ?
And you do know you don't have to rapid tap the fire button in most games, right?

>> No.15970346

>>15969649
Utsuho isn't immune to bombs, she just takes greatly reduced damage from them.

>> No.15970365

>>15970140
I use my little finger for shift (tried ring finger as well but doesn't feel as good to play in general), middle and index finger for z/x. Does anyone really tap fire outside of PoFV and older CAVE games? In any case it's not even tapping that makes it uncomfortable, but holding, releasing and then holding again. So far StB has been the worst offender in causing strain.

>> No.15970418

BOOK OF STAR MYTHOLOGY
WHERE IS IT

>> No.15970427

>>15970365
Have you tried using a gel-filled keyboard palm rest? I find they help immensely in reducing strain on the wrists.

>> No.15970658

>>15968519
Or you could change the keyboard controls to something more comfortable for you

>> No.15970951

>>15970365
Try rebinding that side to QWER with Autohotkey. Use your ring finger for Q (Shift).

If that doesn't work for you, buy a genuine (no retrolink bullshit, not even once) USB Sega Saturn pad, on ebay for examle.

Or an arcade stick.

>> No.15971172
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I hadn't played danmaku Touhou in a few days, and I know I've been declining in skill. Normal mode just can't be completed by me, even with continues. Mind you, I used to challenge Lunatic often, not because I would win, but because it was fun and I felt growth from it.
What do I do? It's really heartbreaking to have less capabilities than I had before, especially when I take pride in my skill.
TL;DR: I am lesser than me a few days ago. I hate it and want to cry into a normal pillow because I'm not worthy for a waifu in my opinion. I want /adv/ice.

>> No.15971183

>>15971172
Thats weird.
I stopped playing touhou for months, and when I came back I performed exactly the same as before.
It was at my stagnant inability to progress in L1CC's, but it was the same.

>> No.15971434

>>15971172
stop being bad

>> No.15971652

>>15971434
I wasn't bad before, I frankly hate it too.

>> No.15971658
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>>15971172
Just get back on the horse, man.

I spent a long time trying to 1cc Great Fairy Wars on any route. Built up a lot of skill, then decided to take a break and attempt to beat Ran. That didn't go well, and I went back to GFW only for my skill regarding that specific game to have declined. I was heartbroken, but went back at it and tried again. I got as good as I was before, and eventually got that 1cc.

Don't EVER give up, anon. No matter how many people tell you to stop or skip or whatever, never give up, always try again. If you make your pursuit relentless, you WILL overcome.

Also remember that your first 1cc will be the hardest. It took me a year of on-and-off attempts to clear EoSD, and then when I moved on to SoEW (I wanted to go back and play the PC-98s before I got too comfortable with Windows, it was a good move) it only took me a month. LLS and MS were kind of wonky since the former is relatively easy and the latter is relatively hard, but when I went back to Windows I was knocking out games within a week of each other, until SA and its difficulty spike fucked my shit up. Once you overcome the hurdle of your first 1cc, it gets easier.

What game are you trying to 1cc, by the way?

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