Umineko thread Just stop bringing it up and talk about Umineko

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Anonymous Tue Sep 20 18:10:27 2016 No.15865609 [Reply] [Original]

Umineko thread

Just stop bringing it up and talk about Umineko

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 18:13:16 2016 No.15865627
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>>15865543
Yeah, Nanjo wouldn't work as a killer. Like I said though, I'm gonna start working on a game soon and I'll likely do it very differently than what we've seen before as it's just been lists of characters to cross off.

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 18:13:21 2016 No.15865628 [DELETED]

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>Higurashi
>Hanyuu is responsable for bringing Rika back
>heavily implied that's only because Rika can see her, otherwise she wouldn't care
>fan theory that Hanyuu is the real villain trying to stay longer with Rika

>comes Umineko
>"lol no lambdadelta was to blame for everything"
>"also Rika's sadness, depressing and anger turn into Bernkasstel"
>"and she's a villain"
R07 shouldn't have tried to link Higurashi and Umineko. Especially after repeating Bern and Rika were different.

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 18:20:15 2016 No.15865657 [DELETED]

>>15865511
>>15865524
Me too. I was very selfish about it and take away everything without thinking on the others. Stanley wasn't so bad either, at least he was contributing with thoughts and he had very good taste on books too. Writer anon seems nice, and even if I didn't liked his stories he was keeping the thread alive for you and the rest. The guy who likes to make pics is not really a problem either, I was just annoyed because certain someone was having fun with them. I promise to stop being a bitch and shut up for good.

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 18:22:45 2016 No.15865673 [DELETED]

>>15865657
>he had very good taste on books
Oh, that reminds me, what was the name of that closed room murder mystery that someone suggested several threads ago?

>>15865609
>great equalizer is the death
That sounds a bit like Anubis' "Death is the ultimate fairness".

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 18:32:17 2016 No.15865718 File: 352 KB, 971x1400, Auau.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15865628 >Then Featherine appears and suddenly Hanyuu seems like a villain again.

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 18:33:52 2016 No.15865723 [DELETED]

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>>15865718
Why is so much of the backstory stuck in the manga? Buttkastel's life stroy is kinda relevant.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 18:35:09 2016 No.15865727 >>15865718 >Then Featherine appears Don't remind me...

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 18:40:07 2016 No.15865743 >>15865718 That still doesn't excuses all the atrocities Bernkastel caused. That include releasing Erika, a complete sociopath, in Battler's family-friendly game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 18:41:23 2016 No.15865750 File: 78 KB, 843x471, shitty youtube video screenshot.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15865723 That scene is in the VN though, the manga just makes it more obvious that she's talking about Hanyuu

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 18:43:39 2016 No.15865764 [DELETED]

>>15865750
>Ryukishi repeats that Berkasstel doesn't have nuffin to do with Rika
>even has Bratkastel mocking people making such theories in a letter
>and suddenly does a 180° backflip and decides that, no, Higurashi was really a game designed by Lambdadelta and Featherine that accidentally birth that monster cat in existence

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 18:56:17 2016 No.15865819 >>15865764 I thought all Ryukishi said was that Bernkastel and Rika aren't the same being, not that they have nothing to do with one another.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 19:03:55 2016 No.15865846 >>15865819 That's playing with words, and the translation I read clearly misunderstood it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 19:08:58 2016 No.15865864 >>15865846 >That's playing with words That's kinda Rukishi's thing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 19:11:26 2016 No.15865876 >>15865864 In a cheap way, then. Because if my hate toward something were to get a body and become sentient, I wouldn't deny it as someone else, I would accept it as part of me.

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 19:24:04 2016 No.15865921
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>>15865876
Except for the part where that being isn't interested in being a part of you any more. Even if Bernkastel originated from Rika, at this point she's a completely separate being. The fact that she chooses to go by a new name should show how she's distinguishing herself from Rika.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 19:29:18 2016 No.15865935 >>15865921 Which is why she's horrible. Rika has a few moments of weakness when she gave up but was saved. Buttkastel is never sympathetic. From the beginning to the end, she's a manipulative, egotistical, snotty brat.

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 19:50:18 2016 No.15866007
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>>15865935
Sure, I won't go so far as to say that Bern's sympathetic, but she's definitely not as flat and one-dimensional as you make her out to be. I still think that she was playing up her evil traits as part of her game with Lambda. She never acts as bitter and angry during their sleepovers as she does during the games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 20:08:20 2016 No.15866070 beato

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 20:24:17 2016 No.15866122 What's Lambda's origin then? She's been trapped in a logic error before, and looks like and shares a seiyuu with young Takano. Her and Bern have the whole Satako Rika parallel going on as well.

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 20:36:06 2016 No.15866171

>>15866122
As far as I know, the details of Lambda's origin have never actually been revealed. Maybe she was around before Higurashi, or maybe she originated from Takano similar to how Bern came from Rika (although I somewhat doubt that.)

I do think it's worth mentioning that while Lambda's main connection was with Takano as her guardian, her personality more closely resembles Satoko's.

Satoko also relied on the power of certain willpower when it came to dealing with her uncle, believing that her brother would "definitely" come home some day. She also seems like the type of person Lambda would give her blessing to.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 20:37:57 2016 No.15866183 >>15866070 Non smetterò di pronunciare il tuo nome, per continuare a dare vita ai tuoi desideri.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 20:47:18 2016 No.15866208 >>15865609 >>15865628 >>15865718 Umineko is trash, poorly written all over the place garbage. Sunk the whole When they cry series Higurashi suffers from being tied into it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 20:50:17 2016 No.15866225 >>15866208 I disagree. I think it was even better than Higurashi overall.

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 20:57:07 2016 No.15866259

>>15866208
It's a bit of a Top wo Nerae scenario, both good but also both vastly different from each other. Which is why there's such a divide.

I enjoyed the ride, I didn't think Umineko was tied up very well though, even if the main theme is how you can make your own truth and that.

Definitely worth the read, but I'd agree that Higurashi is the better when they cry.

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 21:05:48 2016 No.15866297
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>>15866225
I disagree, it's a murder mystery which decides to change genre's midway through. Play through the first chapter again and tell me that the ending was planned from the beginning. (I mean in terms of tone, I realize he left clues in there. He probably put them in, the wrote around them, rather then the other way round.) Completely wrecks it's tone, I'm fairly certain someone in the writing team left or something because the change is so rapid.

But what actually bugs me is the deep ties to Higurashi. The post-modern 'decide your own truth because I couldn't be fucked' stuff with Rika, the concept of boardgames and closed box stuff, honestly ruins Higurashi's fantasy mood.

>>15866259
I'd be fine to just slag Umineko off if it had nothing to do with Higurashi.

Instead I have to believe that Higurashi and the facist incest gender-confused butler did it murder scenario exist in the same world.

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 21:10:30 2016 No.15866312
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>>15866183

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>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 21:14:42 2016 No.15866333 >>15866297 >I'm fairly certain someone in the writing team left or something BT died around Episode 5-6. I don't know if that's the reason, but it could be

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 21:16:10 2016 No.15866337 >>15866297 >I'm fairly certain someone in the writing team left or something because the change is so rapid. It could have something to do with the author's best friend dying between parts 5 and 6.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 21:17:57 2016 No.15866342 >>15866337 >>15866333 That would do it The switch to the 'Ange and co deals with death show' was odd to say the least

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 21:20:27 2016 No.15866344

>>15866333
>>15866337
>>15866297

>More of this BT ghost writer crap

Jesus Christ, just say you don't like it for fucks sake. We get it. That doesn't mean Ryukishi didn't write it or changed half way. It's seriously silly how people want to paint Ryukishi as a bumbling half contributor to his own work because the first episode's tone was different, which thematically is a coherent though admittedly deceptive move and sets up the entire story in a logical way.

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 21:21:57 2016 No.15866350
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>>15866297
I didn't finish the series (read up until ange's episode which was six or seven), then I dropped it before starting the next one, but I have to agree that the series does some pirouettes and somersaults as it goes forward in episodes.

I still think Episode 1 was the best of them all precisely because it explored that murder mystery angle while still omitting enough information from the reader to ground the whole thing in reality. A bunch of people come to an island eyeballing the family's inheritance, and there's just no way it can be split between everybody, so people start dying in gruesome ways. All the while this weird legend about a golden witch hangs in the air, which gives the whole thing a really interesting mystique vibe.

I still think that point where Battler is presumably the last one alive in the mansion, and he rushes towards the entrance to supposedly face off against the killer, then the episode suddenly ends, really made the whole thing come on its own. You never get to see if it was Beatrice or if it was someone else in the island. So fucking good. Then the other episodes came and introduced parallel universes and wacky cast members in ridiculous attires and tons of alternate scenarios that... it just kinda lost its way, I think. Which sucks because the first episode is that well written in my opinion.

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 21:23:12 2016 No.15866358

>>15866333
>>15866337
Someone asked him about it at one of the panels. His answer is pretty vague though
https://seaoffragments.wordpress.com/2015/05/18/acen-2015-07th-expansion-panel-2-ryukishi07-his-way-of-writing-a-story/

>Q: How did the death of BT affect his writing process, particularly since some people say that Umineko EP6-8 turned out quite differently from the rest of the story? A: The way he wrote before was based on who he was as a person then, and he’s a different person now. He’d like you to walk away with that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 21:26:10 2016 No.15866374 >>15866344 >Ryukishi defence force has arrived The reason people bring it up is precisely BECAUSE it makes sense. >Umineko >anything set up in a logical way What >>15866358 To me that's a definite sign that something changed

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 21:27:39 2016 No.15866379 >>15866344 >ghost writer I don't think BT wrote anything, but I think his death affected Ryukishi a lot. His death might have had some impact on the story, but I guess we'll never know for sure

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 21:30:07 2016 No.15866394
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>>15866350
Yeah I think it really loses the meat of the story. Which was the intense air of mystery, general intrigue and wonder. I think 2-3 still had some of this, although admittedly less.

Then here comes 4-8, it just smashes that tone to bits with every single thing at it's disposal.

Want to give a shit about the character progression?
They've been dead the whole time
Want to have a consistent tone?
The final fight in between the cast and a fleet of pirate ships floating in an alternative dimension
Want an ending?
Fuck you post-modern figure it out yourself

Which sucks because the OST for 1-4 is legendary. 5-8 had some okay songs but is nothing compared to the original OST.

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 21:32:16 2016 No.15866403

>>15866297
>Play through the first chapter again and tell me that the ending was planned from the beginning.
I actually just did that recently. Honestly to me it just felt like Ryukishi wrote the first arc to be similar to Higurashi since that was what fans were familiar with, then the later arcs started to diverge into a new story.

>>15866344
I'm not saying that at all. I actually like the story in it's entirety, and only learned about BT's death afterwards. All I'm saying is that Ryuukishi's writing was definitely affected by the fact that he was mourning the loss of a loved one at the time.

Just look at the scenes in Dawn where Battler is regretting the fact that Beato will never read the story he wrote for her, or at the happy author/editor dynamic between Tohya and Ikuko. The last few arcs contain several hints that they were written by a man who misses his friend.

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 21:40:11 2016 No.15866428

>>15866403
>Battler is regretting the fact that Beato will never read the story he wrote for her
Fuck, that's really sad, and this quote from the same panel as above only makes it worse

>When he gave his stories to BT to read, BT would say, “You’re like a devil!” BT had such a pure an innocent soul, so one of the main reasons Ryukishi wrote was to get a reaction from BT.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 21:59:55 2016 No.15866485 Ryukishi wrote a journal entry regarding BT's death. I'll just post the link here in case anyone wants to read it https://keikakudoori.wordpress.com/2009/10/29/ryukishi07s-diary-another-great-man-has-left-this-world-farewell-bt/

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 22:16:39 2016 No.15866534 >>15866485 Yeah, I've seen that before. Depressing stuff.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 23:55:32 2016 No.15866873 So how did Nanjo die in episode 3? I can't remember if it ever got explained.

Anonymous Wed Sep 21 00:11:36 2016 No.15866923

>>15866394
what was your problems with the ending? I thought the ending was brilliant in the fact that it ended the story on this really sad, bittersweet tone while also giving new information that really changes the way you look back at the entire story. It gave some nice closure with Ange's story desu

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 21 00:12:41 2016 No.15866924 >>15866923 It didn't explain fuck all. Who was the fucking murderer?!?!?!??! Fuck R07, that hack.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 21 00:15:10 2016 No.15866929 >>15866924 これはＢＡＩＴです

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 21 00:17:41 2016 No.15866936 >>15866924 all the answers were already given to you, if you re-read the VN. I honestly think Umineko needs to be read twice in order to really get it

Anonymous Wed Sep 21 00:48:10 2016 No.15867000

>>15866297
I don't really think the story changed tone midway, I think Chiru was the only reasonable place the story could have gone. Think about it. Each episode was delving more and more into the fantasy/ meta-verse and I think this was something intentional. Events and narration in the series got more ambiguous and fantastical as it went on, it never changed tone as drastically as you make it out to be.

If you're referring to the fact that Battler goes from hating Beatrice and wanting to kill her to marrying her, again, I don't think it's a straight jump. Even in episodes 1-4 Battler had a few moments where he showed enjoyment for playing Beatrice's game, what ends up triggering the whole overall plot for episode 5 and the rest of Chiru is that Beatrice ends up giving up, which leads Battler to try and figure out the motive. And once he figures out the motive, he's much more sympathetic to Beatrice than he was before. I can understand people not liking that, but I wouldn't call it a drastic tone shift.

I guess people might not like Chiru because it ends up focusing more on the why of the mystery rather than the how and the what, but that's part of the charm of it for me, I feel as if I'm in the minority in liking Chiru over the first four arcs. Though, I do think Chiru ends up enhancing the first four arcs.

Anonymous Wed Sep 21 04:52:28 2016 No.15867573 [DELETED]

>>15866208
I agree. Higurashi and Umineko should've been totally different instead of being tied : they're not the same thing at all.

>>15866007
I still don't like Bernkastel. Beyond her "role" as a villain, she obviously enjoys it.
We're talking about real people.

Anonymous Wed Sep 21 06:47:56 2016 No.15867848

>>15866924
>pretending to be me
Ayyyyy lmao

>>15867000
>the only way for the straight laced mystery to go was all the way up its own ass with mystery dimension shifting Victorian dressed witches
Good god no

The entire meta dimensions was a mistake. All the meta stuff actually does is absolutely wrecks the basic tenants of a crime and mystery novel, which is establishing truth. Because it goes post-modern believe your own truth. Which is absolute tripe, it robs the payoff. That and the basically all levels of the mystery were a letdown, the who, why etc. The fact that it ends up being a character who's name we don't even know between 1-4 (Yasu) just shows how completely out of his ass the whole thing was.

That and Ange existing is also pretty bad. She's an entire extra level of cheese bullshit, with suddenly the entire series by the end being from her perspective. She essentially becomes the protagonist because the writer couldn't figure out how to unfurk the plot from just one perspective alone. That and her quest for truth and the goat analogy really was the author,just saying 'Don't like my post-modernist stuff? Fuck you'.

Anonymous Wed Sep 21 06:54:50 2016 No.15867862

>>15865609
The ending itself wasn't especially bad, I just think it was endemic of the rule of cool stuff that characterised the later umineko chapters. It was this nice little murder mystery, and now we are in pirate boats defending the golden land from a horde of goat pirates lead by a pervert investigator. All to defend mother dreams of a girl from the future whose family got murdered. Honestly it's more just absurd then a mystery at that point.

That and of course the ending is not definitive. Because post-modernism hates closure, making statements or reliable narration in general.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 21 06:56:03 2016 No.15867864 >>15867862 Meant for >>15866923

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 21 09:17:18 2016 No.15868345 >>15867862 Post-modernism sounds like it sucks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 21 09:34:34 2016 No.15868364 >Battler conducting Beatrice's funeral That's the first and the last time I've ever cried during the funeral scene. Was depressed for the rest of the day, couldn't even continue reading.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 21 09:37:01 2016 No.15868369 >>15868364 Don't worry. It get better.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 21 10:16:06 2016 No.15868457 >>15868431 >this much makeup >ever being Natsuhi

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 21 10:38:42 2016 No.15868515 >>15868431 She looks like Monk's assistant. The one that covered her face in makeup to make up for her ugly face.

Anonymous Wed Sep 21 11:16:02 2016 No.15868620

>>15867848
Umineko was never a straight-laced mystery. The only time it was straight-laced was episode 1. I guess you could be mad that umineko ended up being something different than just a regular mystery, but not liking the direction a story took doesn't mean the author didn't know what he was doing.
>The fact that it ends up being a character who's name we don't even know between 1-4 (Yasu) just shows how completely out of his ass the whole thing was.
How does that imply R07 pulled it out of his ass? I think there are many hints if you go back through the story.
> That and her quest for truth and the goat analogy really was the author,just saying 'Don't like my post-modernist stuff? Fuck you'.
With the goat analogy, it's shown that both Will and Dlanor do respect the goats, so I don't think it's an author saying "fuck you" to the readers. They talk about how fun it is to battle a mystery out like this. I think the only type of goat that gets really shit on in the story was the goat that said he gave up thinking on the mystery because he thought that theorizing about it was a waste of time. (But that's just Will getting angry at the goat, I wouldn't know for sure what Ryukishi's opinion is).

My opinion on Ange getting a lot of focus on the end is at that point both Battler and Beatrice's arcs had finished, the only story arc that had to be wrapped up was Ange, so it makes sense that she got a lot of focus at the end.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 21 11:17:44 2016 No.15868623 >>15868620 >Umineko was never a straight-laced mystery Which is why it was shit.

Anonymous Wed Sep 21 11:30:19 2016 No.15868665
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>>15867573
>We're talking about real people.
But they're not real, not from Bern and Lambda's point of view at least. They're just characters in a story. That's why Lambda's sacrifice had so much meaning. Then again, if Bern really was playing up her evil traits then it's also possible that Lambda was just doing the opposite as her opponent.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 21 11:32:01 2016 No.15868673 >>15868665 Why are you so eager to find excuses for Bratkastel being a little bitch?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 21 11:36:16 2016 No.15868693 >>15868673 Because there's more to her character than that and everyone just tends to ignore it because she's the villain.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 21 11:39:23 2016 No.15868704 >>15868693 Sounds to me you're just trying to white knight a character built and written to be hated.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 21 13:17:49 2016 No.15868943 >>15868704 Bernkastel is the villain, you're not supposed to like her. But that doesn't mean you're supposed to blindly hate everything about her. I'm just trying to understand her motivations and characterization.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 21 13:21:04 2016 No.15868954 >>15868943 Good for you.

Anonymous Wed Sep 21 15:31:22 2016 No.15869332

>>15868943
>I'm just trying to understand her motivations and characterization.
I can respect that. I don't particularly like Bernkastel myself but I always try and view things from the perspective of the villain. What are the motivations, why did she become like that? I actually think she's a decent character at the end of the day.

>>15868954
You're a goat. Is reading in between the lines and looking at characters from a different angle too much hassle for you? You don't sound like the type of person who would enjoy Umineko at all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 21 15:32:52 2016 No.15869337 >>15869332 >name calling I accept your loss.

Anonymous Wed Sep 21 15:36:49 2016 No.15869350

>>15869337
But seriously, you act as if the anon defending Bernkastel is being ridiculous for looking at the character from a different angle and being able to appreciate her as a character. Do you just see her as evil incarnate and that's it? Nothing more to her?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 21 15:37:59 2016 No.15869353 File: 689 KB, 635x903, 09nn8239ka840.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I love the Uminekkers

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 21 15:39:22 2016 No.15869360 >>15869350 Of course I am, because I sympathize with Battler and the other Ushiromiyas. I'm not a complete sociopath who just want murders to happen to wank over how good I am because I found who was the killer.

Anonymous Wed Sep 21 15:48:58 2016 No.15869403

>>15869360
I agree. I also sympathise with Battler and his family. And Bernkastel is the villain and therefore written to be evil and sociopathtic. But that doesn't mean I can't see beyond that and reason why she became that way. Once you understand where she came from you can understand how she became a sociopath. And why she sees the Ushiromiyas as nothing but pieces to be played with.
I always sympathise with the protagonists of a a story but I also love villains in stories. I love seeing their motivations, their backstory and everything that led to them becoming this way. That doesn't mean that I love the character or condone what they do. I can appreciate characters without siding with them.

Anonymous Wed Sep 21 15:51:58 2016 No.15869419 [DELETED]

>>15869403
I can't stand the villains. They're the reasons behind the tragedies that happen, and don't deserve mercy.
Umineko isn't just about murder mysteries, the Tea Parties go in a lot of details about the tortures Beatrice do to the adults to comfort Rosa.
And there's Ange's story, which is a solid pile of shit clearly designed to cause PTSD to everyone who was bullied in school.

All of that just to keep a little girl busy five minutes.
I hate Bernkastel. I hate her as much as I hate the reavers in Serenity, the ones that rape, torture, flay alive, and eat, in varied orders.

Anonymous Wed Sep 21 16:01:22 2016 No.15869461

>>15869419
I see your point, but don't you just love to hate her? That's the mark of a good villain in my opinion. Someone you absolutely hate and who deserves no redemption or mercy. Think of Joffrey from Game of Thrones. Sick, psychotic bastard who kills women for fun and enjoys seeing the suffering of others. But if you take a step back and look at him as an outsider, you start to understand him. Born of incest, raised by an overprotective and psychotic bitch of a mother and a "father" who didn't give half a shit about him. He was given too much leeway as a child and this made him fucked in the head. And then he got the position of King of the whole fucking continent, no wonder it went to his head.
Sorry for going off-topic for a bit, but I was just trying to sketch a different villain everyone loves to hate. But if you take a step back you can see WHY or HOW a villain turned out this way. You can still hate them. I just like a villain with a backstory, something that helps you understand how they became this monster you see now. Evil for the sake of evil is just bad writing.

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Anonymous Wed Sep 21 16:34:40 2016 No.15869561

Did anyone see the Takano reveal coming? I never read the VN (am planning on reading it soon), just watched the anime years ago and it came as a complete surprise to me. Was it more heavily hinted at in the VN or was it a genuine surprise to many of you?

To be honest I didn't even really think there was a mastermind behind it all so it came as an even bigger shock to me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 21 18:24:12 2016 No.15869961 >>15869561 Started with the anime first. I 100% totally did NOT saw it coming. I assumed she earlier somehow. I never suspected there was a substitution.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 21 18:34:05 2016 No.15870012 >>15869561 I was pretty suspicious of her from the moment she showed up. The smirk on those sprites, and her attitude in general. However it wasn't until much later that I thought she must be behind it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 21 18:36:18 2016 No.15870023 >>15867848 >goat analogy Why are people so salty over this?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 21 18:41:29 2016 No.15870050 >>15869419 >They're the reasons behind the tragedies that happen You don't like tragedies?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 21 23:52:59 2016 No.15871093 >>15868369 I've already read the whole thing. That pain will be with me forever.

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 03:27:40 2016 No.15871707

>>15868665
Hahaha, you got tricked for thinking Lambda's sacrifice had meaning when it was all part of the play. Did you forget that Lambda is arguably as evil as Bernkastel? She just masks it behind pretending being an airhead.
Lambda promised she would protect Beatrice so long as her magic allowed her and revealing the diary's secret would end in a loss. That's why Lambda helped.
She just bitched a bit so that her ''acceptance'' would be cheered. But then you ask, why would she do that, right? Because she wanted to be in the top tens, as she obviously says right afterwards.

Bernkastel says upfront that she's a cunt and we were naive to believe there was some good in her. Lambda is a ruthless asshole that only helps her own side.

Remember when she got Ange to nullify herself in ep 4? Or when she told Beatrice to take it more seriously? That's the true Lambda.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 06:01:48 2016 No.15871997 >>15869561 Yeah I did but only because I got spoilered that takanos corpse is fake.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 06:04:34 2016 No.15872006 >>15871997 What sad son of a bitch spoilered you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 06:12:20 2016 No.15872026 >>15872006 My own curiosity actually. For some reason I wanted to find out something trivial about takano, and visited the wiki, and I think the first sentence was that her corpse was fake.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 06:16:21 2016 No.15872036 >>15872026 Well, "Own Curiosity" is a massive faggot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 06:18:31 2016 No.15872045 >>15872026 You baka

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 09:34:00 2016 No.15872599
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>>15869561
I started to suspect that something was wrong in watanagashi-hen, when oishi talked about her corpse, and in tatarigoroshi-hen, her weird behaviour sounded even more suspicious.

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 10:02:45 2016 No.15872675

>>15869561
>>15872599
I sort of thought it was weird how her corpse was burned and they only identified her by her dental records, but never really took it as far as her being the mastermind. I'd read enough murder mysteries to know something's up when a corpse is found burned to death, but I never took it that far. Sort of assumed her corpse has crucial evidence on it at most.

>>15872026
>>15872036
>>15872045
To be honest, I've spoilered myself massively for a lot of books and tv series that way. Just wanted to google the character for something trivial and wind up seeing a massive game-changing spoiler right in the first sentence. So now I never google about stuff I'm still reading/watching anymore.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 10:21:53 2016 No.15872708 I'm being spoiled about Higurashi right now. I'm a baka.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 10:25:31 2016 No.15872719 >>15872708 It was aliens.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 10:26:11 2016 No.15872720 >>15872708 It was demons.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 10:29:04 2016 No.15872729 >>15872708 It was me, Dio!

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 10:29:16 2016 No.15872732 File: 71 KB, 573x652, 64597435.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15872708 It was big daddy delicious

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 10:30:53 2016 No.15872734 >>15872708 It was (You).

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 10:33:12 2016 No.15872742 >>15872708 It was Stanley.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 10:35:35 2016 No.15872746 >>15872742 Hey! I'm the only one who can call Stanley to the stupid Stanley you stupid dumb!

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 10:37:01 2016 No.15872751 File: 214 KB, 800x800, __frederica_bernkastel_and_ushiromiya_ange_umineko_no_naku_koro_ni_drawn_by_rifyu__c99a8ca38222c6b950c9496067304e49.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I hate Bratkastel.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 10:40:00 2016 No.15872756 >tfw God delete me again Nyoro~n

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 10:44:23 2016 No.15872767 >>15872708 I was spoiled about the culprit in And Then There Were None in a Seacat thread once. That sucked

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 11:06:24 2016 No.15872826 >>15872767 Don't worry, it's every baby's first mystery novel. Wasn't it also revealed in seacats though? Or did Yasu just say that she couldn't figure it out?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 11:07:37 2016 No.15872834 >>15872767 Wargrave the Judge.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 11:08:28 2016 No.15872841 >>15872826 Kumasawa tells Yasu about the bottle thing at the end, but they don't say who the culprit is

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 12:37:09 2016 No.15873085 Someone has the link to the Bernkastel spanking pasta?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 14:28:49 2016 No.15873399 Since we're talking about both Higurashi and Umineko in this thread. Often wondered about this. http://www.strawpoll.me/11279769 http://www.strawpoll.me/11279769 Maybe say why as well

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 14:31:34 2016 No.15873407 >>15873399 Umineko because I read it first. I suppose your vote depends on that since they are pretty similar.

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 14:36:51 2016 No.15873429

>>15873399
It's impossible for me to say. Both stories have different things I love about them.
I prefer the characters in Higurashi and definitely the atmosphere. Keiichi's slow decent into paranoia and madness is amazing, and you as a reader feel it right along with him. There are a lot of cool stories in Higurashi as well and I love the isolated village setting.
Then again I fucking love Umineko. I'm a sucker for murder mysteries and Umineko was just an absolute treat. I loved the puzzles, the fights, the fucking music. Although the atmosphere wasn't nearly as creepy as Higurashi, Umineko still had incredible moments, like the first twilight in the first game. I love 'em both to bits for different reasons

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 14:48:30 2016 No.15873468

>>15873399
I felt Umineko had a more epic and ambitious scope to it that Higurashi lacked. Also, I feel as if Umineko is somewhat of a cynical extension to Higurashi, if you could call it that. If the main message of Higurashi was the fact of always being open to the people around you regardless of what you are going through, then Umineko kinda counters that by showing why that never really ends up happening in real life.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 14:54:40 2016 No.15873486 >>15873429 I liked the Halloween party. Really felt sorry for Battler.

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 15:28:15 2016 No.15873586

>>15873399
I played Umineko first, but ended up enjoying Higurashi more. The characters in Higurashi were much better than Umineko and the SoL moments before the murders didn't feel like a chore to read through.

Also, closed rooms got tiring after a while.

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 15:38:52 2016 No.15873624

>>15873586
>The characters in Higurashi were much better than Umineko and the SoL moments before the murders didn't feel like a chore to read through.
Agreed. Reading Umineko sometimes felt like a chore. I just wanted them to get to the murders. I never had that with Higurashi. Still, Umineko has a very special place in my heart regardless.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 15:57:48 2016 No.15873674 >>15873085 Fuck off

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 16:00:48 2016 No.15873681 >>15873674 >3 hours later >not even a link Nah, you fuck off mate.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 16:01:08 2016 No.15873682 File: 254 KB, 800x700, 769343686649.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] beato and batora

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 16:05:02 2016 No.15873699 File: 113 KB, 674x522, hd56754.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hideyoshi was a lucky man, he did not deserve his fate. And he definitely did not deserve to go through all 8 episodes without a single fight or bad ass moment.

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 16:07:12 2016 No.15873705
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>>15873486
Halloween party is one of my favourite scenes in Umineko. I didn't think they could top the first twilight of EP1, but the Halloween party was just incredibly over the top and twisted. Made the chain of locked rooms a bit of a disappointment in EP3 as I was sort of hooked on the gore by then.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 16:26:36 2016 No.15873767 I keep seeing this stuff about when the owls cry. I must've been away for that. What exactly is it and is someone working on it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 16:29:13 2016 No.15873777 >>15873767 Just a joke

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 16:31:49 2016 No.15873788 >>15873777 How'd it start?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 16:38:18 2016 No.15873801 I like how we got some more Higurashi talk in this thread. Post your favourite version of Dear You to celebrate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-YgeQ05OAA

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 16:44:20 2016 No.15873813 >>15873788 I don't know, but is very simple if you think a little: Anon + boredom + dead thread = Owls. Then if you multiply the result with another tweety bored anons the result is a meme.

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 16:52:41 2016 No.15873836

>>15873767
>>15873788
Couple months ago we had a discussion about a possible next WTC and which animal should feature after cicadas and seagulls. Best idea in the thread was owls. Think it was set in like a snowy mountain village or maybe just a lodge or something. IIRC there was some legend of a windigo or some other creepy creature that was blamed for all the murders. Don't think there was an actual story, just some brainstorming. It was pretty fun imagining snow-based impossible murders.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 16:59:32 2016 No.15873867 >>15873788 >>/jp/thread/S15347265#p15361010

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 17:01:48 2016 No.15873876 >>15873867 I'd rather have something inspired from Dyatlov Pass Incident. That shit is begging for theories.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 17:13:17 2016 No.15873919 >>15873867 Oh thanks anon, it's nice to read through that stuff. Actually gets me quite excited, I love the idea of a snowy isolated setting and the hoots of owls in the silence of the night. Would make for a great when they cry

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 17:14:17 2016 No.15873924 >>15873919 Read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyatlov_Pass_incident instead.

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 17:19:24 2016 No.15873947

>>15873876
>>15873924
I just read through this. I fucking love stuff like this, can't believe I never heard about this before. Really gets my mystery senses tingling. And it works with the snowy setting of Owls. I saw some anon in that archived thread say he would write a short story about Owls, so if you're reading this, take heed.

Any other real life unsolved mysteries I should be aware of?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 17:21:43 2016 No.15873953 >>15873947 Maybe Amityville, but in this case, it's more about the theories being unsatisfying. Otherwise, there's the Roanoke Colony who disappeared.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 17:28:18 2016 No.15873988 >>15873924 Damn. What the hell happened to these people? What must've gone through their minds? This is actually quite scary reading.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 17:30:03 2016 No.15873993 >>15873988 There's a game, Kholat, who was inspired by that. Never played the game, but I found the incident very inspiring for stories.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 17:31:30 2016 No.15873998 >>15873924 Oh, yes. I remember now. I think I learned about this on some video from youtube. Cool

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 17:32:30 2016 No.15874000 >>15873998 Don't watch the Youtube video. It's always about some faggot CONSTANTLY talking and yelling loudly, pretending to be scared.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 17:40:46 2016 No.15874037 File: 799 KB, 512x512, ...gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15874000 Bah, I enjoy youtube videos, grandpa. I'm subscribed to youtubers like Jacksepticeye and Markiplier for something

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 17:43:24 2016 No.15874044 >>15873699 Truly best dad, still waiting on that fight scene writer-anon

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 17:43:55 2016 No.15874046 >>15874037 Disgusting. I bet you like Pewdiepie, and that you believe that DarkSydePhil is just a very smart troll. I want to see that retard playing Umineko. >WHAT, I LOST? >THE GAME EXPLAINS NOTHING >HOW DO I PUNCH THAT WOMAN

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 17:44:56 2016 No.15874051 >>15874046 Ignore and report

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 17:46:37 2016 No.15874061

I'll be honest, I'm spooked about this whole Dyatlov thing. But it's also a great mystery. I know it'll never happen because this actually happened in the real world, but I'd love to see a movie or book about this that shows one of the hikers was behind it all. Going by mystery traditions, it was probably the one with the missing tongue.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 17:47:11 2016 No.15874064 >>15874046 >Pewdiepie His videos has the same kind of humor you find here, so yep. I like him too. And yes, don't forget to report me too. Seeya

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 17:48:18 2016 No.15874069 >>15874061 Or the one who went back because of an "illness". Maybe he feigned illness and went back to the hikers, knowing the track they'd follow and murdered them all.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 17:48:46 2016 No.15874071 >>15874064 I don't report people just because I disagree with them. I'm not an autist. >>15874061 Strangely enough, it's mostly ignored. There's just a small documentary about it, and it's mostly bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 17:50:34 2016 No.15874081 >>15874071 I'm glad for that. I also never reported anybody, even Stanley, except Limp dick when he gets very annoying with me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 17:50:52 2016 No.15874083 >>15874071 >just because I disagree with them She's ban evading and once again attempting to derail the thread with inane off topic attention whoring.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 17:52:13 2016 No.15874090 Fine fine. I leave I leave. Jeez

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 18:06:21 2016 No.15874146

>>15874071
>Strangely enough, it's mostly ignored.
So when does stuff like this become public property? I'd love to see someone write a book on this.
It sort of feels like a real-life Umineko. People around the world making theories about what happened even though they will never ever really know.

>>15874083
At least mods are onto it at all times. A day doesn't go by where I don't see these shitty bait posts deleted. Thanks mods, you're doing god's work.
Though best thing for us to do is to just ignore those posts. They're pretty obvious.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 18:13:50 2016 No.15874166 >>15873801 Not my favorite, but I always liked the really simple version that plays in the tips screen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQCq1JiaEnM

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 18:19:34 2016 No.15874177 >>15874071 >Strangely enough, it's mostly ignored. There's just a small documentary about it, and it's mostly bullshit. Well it's been pretty hyped in Russia.

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 18:33:02 2016 No.15874203
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>>15873876
>>15873924
I love this, there's even a list of "red truths" on the wikipedia page.

/RED/ Six of the group members died of hypothermia and three of fatal injuries.
/RED/ There were no indications of other people nearby on Kholat Syakhl apart from the nine travelers.
/RED/ The tent had been ripped open from within.
/RED/ The victims had died 6 to 8 hours after their last meal.
/RED/ Traces from the camp showed that all group members left the campsite of their own accord, on foot.
/RED/ To dispel the theory of an attack by the indigenous Mansi people, Dr. Boris Vozrozhdenny stated that the fatal injuries of the three bodies could not have been caused by another human being, "because the force of the blows had been too strong and no soft tissue had been damaged".
/RED/ Forensic radiation tests had shown high doses of radioactive contamination on the clothes of a few victims.
/RED/ Released documents contained no information about the condition of the skiers' internal organs.
/RED/ There were no survivors of the incident.

So what happened, /seacats/? Can you solve this mystery? Was it the work of a human, or a Yeti? Come at me with full force!!!

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 18:35:07 2016 No.15874208 >>15874203 There's clearly something that scared them out of the tents, but the fright was temporary, since a few of them tried to light a fire. Maybe they mistook the noise of an avalanche, but weren't they pretty experienced?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 18:35:56 2016 No.15874210 >>15874203 >Journalists reporting on the available parts of the inquest files claim that it states So some parts can be changed.

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 18:39:13 2016 No.15874216

>>15874203
>Yeti
Lame. We need something more. I swear I've read some small tale where the tribe members were closely listening to something and saying: "She'll come to celebrate". Turned out it was some natural phenomena, but it's more mysterious this way.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 18:39:48 2016 No.15874218 >>15874203 obv it was ice godzilla

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 18:41:51 2016 No.15874224 File: 8 KB, 198x255, Blorp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15874216 Yetis can be cools too.

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 18:46:25 2016 No.15874242

>>15874208
That has to be true. The tent was cut from the inside. But what could possibly scare 9 experienced hikers out of their tents so much that they did not bother to get dressed? They knew they could not possibly survive long outside the tent without gear. Whatever they thought was coming for them must have been scarier than dying half-naked in the freezing cold in the complete darkness of night. Now I could understand one person going crazy but all 9 of them?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 18:49:33 2016 No.15874248 >>15874242 Let's be honest : they knew what they were doing. So what is more scary than dying of exposure?

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 18:54:44 2016 No.15874265

>>15874242
It could have been one of the hikers inside the tent attacked the rest of them, which made it so they had no time to put on their gear. He could have had a weapon and stood in front of the entrance to the tent, which explains why a hole in the tent needed to be made. They then escaped and ended up dying of hypothermia.

If it was something outside of the tent that killed them, one of the nine people would have likely heard something outside. They would then have time to put on their gear and escape through the entrance of the tent.

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 18:55:32 2016 No.15874272

>>15874248
Experienced hikers would know the signs of an avalanche. They would also not camp out for the night at a place prone to avalanches. Contrary to what movies show us, avalanches are really rare.

So to answer your question, there had to have been something out there that seemed worse than dying of exposure to the elements. And for 9 experienced hikers that is saying something. It must've been an attack. Either animal or possibly human. In the dead of night, three of them were killed in the chase, the others lost in the night and frozen to death overnight.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 18:57:21 2016 No.15874280 >>15874272 Weren't the three of them that got killed got crushed by "something that couldn't have been human"? Where's the Dyatlov Pass anyway? Could this be a tiger or a bear?

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 18:57:49 2016 No.15874283

>>15874265
This is interesting. The bodies with the most clothes on are the most suspicious then.
Then there is the case of the clothes the bodies were wearing belonging to different people. It seemed like there was a scramble for clothes. Perhaps a fight broke out as they tried to escape their doom and they had to fight for the warmth of clothes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 18:58:29 2016 No.15874290 >>15874265 >They then escaped and ended up dying of hypothermia. Explain other injuries. And radiation.

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 18:58:47 2016 No.15874293

>>15874203
>Dr. Boris Vozrozhdenny stated that the fatal injuries of the three bodies could not have been caused by another human being, "because the force of the blows had been too strong and no soft tissue had been damaged".
This pretty much rules out any human culprit. It could have been an animal, but wouldn't the soft tissue be damaged as well in that case?

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 18:59:28 2016 No.15874294
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>>15874248
Exposure isn't something people know or can recognize. It's one of the scariest deaths because you can't see it, touch it, feel it or taste it yet it can randomly kill you without even knowing. And slowly.
Reminds me of that scientist who touched a radiation stone during an experiment to save his colleges. He knew that he was going to die and he did. That's scary. The thought that a single action and touch can fuck you up in the worst possible death is horrifying.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:00:32 2016 No.15874298 >>15874293 A bear?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:00:44 2016 No.15874301 >>15874294 Exposure doesn't mean radiation, it means cold. >>15874293 Couldn't that report be falsified?

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:01:00 2016 No.15874302

>>15874280
The snowfall didn't make sense. For one, the woman with her tongues missing cannot be explained. It was thought the force of the avalanche cut off her tongue as she screamed, pressuring her teeth through her tongue and piercing it. But no avalanche happened, none of the signs of an avalanche were present anyway. So either a human with a knife or an animal of the mountain did that, either before or after her death.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:04:39 2016 No.15874315 >>15874280 >Could this be a tiger or a bear? There were no signs of animals. I've read they don't go there.

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:04:49 2016 No.15874316

>>15874293
>>15874301
But if it's not possible for a human to cause those injuries, and the avalanche never happened, then what did cause those wounds? I suspect something's up here. I don't believe mountain animals or tribes did this. I still suspect the person who left halfway through the hike due to illness. He knew the path they were taking, and he was experienced himself. He could've sneaked up on them in the night with a weapon, causing them all to run out into the cold.

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:05:13 2016 No.15874318

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh89h8FxNhQ

>knowing you're a dead man walking
>dies 9 days later
Just the worst feeling

>>15874301
>Exposure doesn't mean radiation, it means cold
I thought you meant exposure to radiation.
The cold doesn't explain traces of radiation though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:05:41 2016 No.15874320 >>15874203 We're talking purple statements here.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:07:11 2016 No.15874323 >>15874318 No, but the cold explain how most of them died. To compare it to Rokkenjima, it's as if they tried to leave the island and face the typhoon rather than stay. There was SOMETHING that made them run.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:07:14 2016 No.15874324 >>15874316 I don't think it's reliable to assume what the doctor said about those injuries being impossible for a human.

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:09:52 2016 No.15874331

That's the big question here. What made them run?
What made them leave their tent in such a hurry that they literally cut it open and lept outside, undressed, in the freezing cold of a snowy mountain. What could possibly be out there that's scarier than freezing to death?

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:10:44 2016 No.15874335

>>15874323
Something that needs to be known is on which victim did they find radiation?
6 out of 9 died of hypothermia which is explainable from the cold, but it's the 3 that are a mystery.
Was the traces of radiation found on the three smashed bodies?

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:10:52 2016 No.15874337

>>15874324
>According to Dr. Boris Vozrozhdenny, the force required to cause such damage would have been extremely high, comparing it to the force of a car crash.
You'd have to be a pretty bad doctor to get this wrong. Unless he was lying about it for some reason

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:11:29 2016 No.15874341 >>15874298 Bear's point being?

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:12:05 2016 No.15874343

The boring answer of course is the military. 1960's Russia had a lot of shit going on. Might've had some programmes running in the mountains that those hikers didn't know about. Maybe that's why it's not talked about so much even though it's one of the biggest unresolved mysteries in the world.
Personally, I don't like that answer though. Too easy, too all-encompassing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:12:48 2016 No.15874348 >>15874337 It's suggested in the article that he faked the report to avoid tensions with natives.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:12:53 2016 No.15874349 >>15874341 Rawr? >>15874337 >Boris Vozrozhdenny, >Boris >location was in Russia A conspiracy? To hide something... perhaps?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:14:21 2016 No.15874356 >>15874343 The military is the obvious answer only because of the radiation. The blows themselves don't make sense in any context.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:17:36 2016 No.15874371 >>15874349 There shouldn't even be any bears around. It's was a popular tourist route.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:17:42 2016 No.15874372 >>15874343 The article does say that the military were testing parachute mines in the area, which could explain the internal damages

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:18:23 2016 No.15874373 >>15874371 Which makes the whole army theory weird >building a secret base in a place many people will snoop around

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:19:24 2016 No.15874377 >>15874372 Radiation mines? Sounds like a likely theory. But now what would make them leave in a hurry?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:20:47 2016 No.15874380 >>15874377 The sound of an explosion maybe?

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:22:09 2016 No.15874384

>>15874343
>Might've had some programmes running in the mountains that those hikers didn't know about.
No way. That group didn't just wander into the mountains on random. They've informed the authorities, there was some documentation involved. It all was official.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:25:54 2016 No.15874390 >>15874373 There was this retarded theory about foreign spies trying to get some military samples of radiation or something.

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:29:12 2016 No.15874399
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>>15874380
Got it!

Radiation mines were being parachuted at night. The wind blew away the parachute from the designated site and happened to fall nearby the group.
Explosions were heard from far away and slowly got closer to the camp. Fearing for their life, the group cut from the inside to run. A few got hit by flying mines while the others, running on their own in the night, died of hypothermia.

The explosions themselves were never disclosed because the military wanted to hide the error. The snow also hid most of the explosions by filling them over the few days of snow.

>mfw small bombs is my answer.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:30:22 2016 No.15874402 >>15874399 >avatarfagging

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:31:12 2016 No.15874405 >>15874402 Learn terms before acting like a newfag.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:32:46 2016 No.15874408 Regarding the radiation, I've seen some webistes suggest that it might have come from a thorium lantern. As far as I can tell, there are no documentations on what type of radiation it was, nor how much, so the lantern theory could be possible

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:33:07 2016 No.15874409 >>15874399 Explain the tongue injury. >The wind blew away the parachute That's a pretty retarded way of doing things.

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:33:57 2016 No.15874410
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It's useless, it's all useless!
There's no point in the military having any sort of program there. There were no vicious animals indigenous to that area either. All hikers were experienced, knew what they were doing. Only one thing makes sense, premeditated murder. One of the 9 must have had a reason to want to kill the rest. It's quite easy when you think about it. Simply cause an uproar, make everyone run outside and die of the cold or finish the job yourself with a weapon. The killer must've made a mistake and died among them. This is the only logical explanation that does not allow mysterious wild animals or some sort of collusion with the military, which I refuse to believe in!

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:34:59 2016 No.15874413 >>15874409 Tongue injury is not part of the red truths and is therefore irrelevant.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:35:57 2016 No.15874416 >>15874410 >The killer must've made a mistake >a mistake OR NOT?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:37:26 2016 No.15874422 >>15874416 He meant to die with them?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:38:05 2016 No.15874425 >>15874413 And what if I make it a red truth? (cackle)

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:38:07 2016 No.15874426 >>15874410 >finish the job yourself with a weapon But how did they recreate the force of a car crash And why weren't there any external injuries?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:39:00 2016 No.15874430 >>15874425 Then I'll update my theory. I think my small bombs theory is the best one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:41:33 2016 No.15874439 >>15874422 Obviously. But we need to think up a reason.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:42:38 2016 No.15874443 >>15874409 An animal probably ate it. It took a while before the bodies were found, so it's fairly likely

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:42:39 2016 No.15874444 >>15874430 Did it explode from the small bombs in food?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:43:46 2016 No.15874450 >>15874443 But they didn't eat anything else? witche's_laugh.mp3

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:44:07 2016 No.15874453 >>15874444 No it was eaten by a bear.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:45:32 2016 No.15874460 >>15874453 Was he on a diet then?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:45:43 2016 No.15874461 >>15874450 >Dubinina, who was missing her tongue, eyes, part of the lips, as well as facial tissue and a fragment of skullbone

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:45:57 2016 No.15874462

>>15874426
The doctor might not have made a full analysis. We don't know his whole story, he might have been in on the plan.

>>15874439
The killer is the one with the missing tongue. Satisfied that the rest was dead, he cut off his own tongue and flung the knife far away. He always meant to die with the rest because of some horrible past even that isn't know to us. Perhaps the hikers all raped his sister or something, and they needed to die but the killer also couldn't live on anymore so he devised this clever scheme to kill all the culprits and himself, turning it into a big mystery!

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:46:33 2016 No.15874466 >>15874450 Because the group had eaten before! The animal was drawn to the food in their mouth and ate the tongue!

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:47:23 2016 No.15874470 >>15874461 >Dubinina, who was missing her tongue, eyes, part of the lips, as well as facial tissue Cold? A wild animal? Or torture?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:50:27 2016 No.15874483 >>15874461 Forgot, my bad. But that's still a pretty small meal.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 19:57:41 2016 No.15874502 >>15874461 >>15874470 The article says that she was laying face down in a stream for over 2 months. The most likely explanation is putrefaction

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 20:01:10 2016 No.15874512 >>15874502 I wish I could forget the mental image your post just conjured.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 20:04:14 2016 No.15874522 >>15874470 The documents say it was a post-mortem change, the reason being the rotting process in tissues.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 20:05:59 2016 No.15874530 >>15874522 Just shut up. I want to puke already.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 20:06:26 2016 No.15874533 >>15874512 >mental image You'll find actual images of her corpse if you Google her name. Wouldn't recommend it though

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 20:08:03 2016 No.15874537 >>15874530 Then leave

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 20:08:47 2016 No.15874539 >>15874533 I already saw Cabin in the Woods.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 20:14:24 2016 No.15874552 File: 263 KB, 639x300, enjoy your meal.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15874530 It also says she had a greenishly-grey mucous in her mouth.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 22:52:57 2016 No.15875007 >>15873399 I know that Higurashi has another intended audience compared to Umineko, but it was really hard for me to stomach all the shit anime jokes and slice of life elements in it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 22:56:58 2016 No.15875024 >>15875007 "He who judges a book by the porn and anime made from it will be judged by the colour of his piss." - Pai Mei, 1504. The anime was a piece of shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 23:00:10 2016 No.15875031 >>15875024 Never watched the anime, though. I just think nosebleed jokes stopped being funny in the 90's. Same with curry autism, "MC getting beat up by a main girl and then be completely fine afterwards" gags and so on.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 23:01:13 2016 No.15875035 >>15875031 >curry autism Now that's a new one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 23:07:02 2016 No.15875056 >>15875031 Also this fucking track made early parts of Higurashi a fucking pain to get through. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3PWQsJt-CQ

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 23:09:04 2016 No.15875065 >>15875056 >hating on best track I'd tell you to get fucked but you would enjoy it too much.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 01:46:52 2016 No.15875449 >>15875056 "He who hates the best track in a soundtrack deserves to die a thousand deaths." - Sun Tzu.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 02:52:19 2016 No.15875664 Any news about TRi torrent?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 03:03:15 2016 No.15875695 beato

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 05:30:03 2016 No.15876007 >>15875056 Well no shit, it's the shitty MG added music.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 06:30:20 2016 No.15876158 >>15876007 No, that's from the original

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 08:44:23 2016 No.15876495 File: 440 KB, 598x564, 073406080.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Did someone say mystery?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 09:10:12 2016 No.15876550 File: 48 KB, 234x232, 98657_098hb_0k 1jhbjh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone has the TRi sprites yet?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 09:23:05 2016 No.15876569 >>15876550 I'll try get them later today if no one else does it first.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 09:27:34 2016 No.15876580 >>15876569 Can you upload the sprites with all of game?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 09:29:24 2016 No.15876585 >>15876569 Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 10:44:22 2016 No.15876782 >>15876580 I don't want to upload the whole game just yet. It wouldn't feel right uploading it so soon after its release.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 10:45:43 2016 No.15876792 >>15876782 Don't do it

Anonymous Fri Sep 23 11:01:17 2016 No.15876864

>>15876792
It's going to get uploaded eventually. The way things are now there's probably only a handful of western fans with access to the game. While I want people to buy the game and support Ryukishi, I also want the game to be more popular, and that's not going to happen until it's widely available.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 11:08:46 2016 No.15876897 >>15876864 Okay, I understand. But please wait a little more for that. I need my daily dose of anon's tears to keep living. I might die.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 11:17:45 2016 No.15876926 >>15876569 Could you upload the openings for Vespio and Gakuen Renai as well? I can't find them anywhere

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 11:18:18 2016 No.15876928 >>15876897 Don't worry, I still think it's a bit too soon to upload it. I just wanted to point out that it'll need to happen eventually. Once it becomes widely available it will also start creating a demand for a translation.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 11:20:14 2016 No.15876937 >>15876928 Cool. Go for it, big boy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 11:51:02 2016 No.15877054 https://youtu.be/lPCbvXywKjY?t=2m15s https://youtu.be/f8B9zKfHZRY?t=3m17s Iwaihime is super interesting

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 12:53:19 2016 No.15877309 Anyone have a picture of the /adv/ thread where someone pretends to be battler?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 12:59:45 2016 No.15877331 File: 896 KB, 1381x2067, 4654548951561651.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15877309

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 13:01:36 2016 No.15877347 >>15877331 Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 14:39:01 2016 No.15877709 >>15876550 Alright, I got them. Uploading now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 15:09:00 2016 No.15877801 File: 271 KB, 582x1147, waraib.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Alright, here are TRI's sprites. Enjoy. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BzdNfLGacG1rMVlJZ3IzenZJUFE

Anonymous Fri Sep 23 15:12:58 2016 No.15877823

What kind of a bullshit is this?
In ch5 when bernkastel says in red that Krauss is dead without any proof, that isn't considered a violation of knox's 2nd
Yet when battler says Natsuhi isn't the culprit it's a violation.

That is so unfair and broken. How does that even work?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 15:16:08 2016 No.15877839 >>15877823 It's not a violation because Dlanor didn't challenge it. It's supposed to be bullshit. It's just like how they withheld the red truth about Kinzo being dead.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 15:17:14 2016 No.15877844 >>15877839 So if battler said >it's a violation of knox's 2nd Erikas arguments would crumble?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 15:18:33 2016 No.15877849 >>15877844 Battler didn't have the authority to use that red so no.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 15:18:40 2016 No.15877851 File: 298 KB, 903x1300, img000073.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15877823 They explain it right after. Witches don't have to give proof because they're fucking cheaters

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 15:23:36 2016 No.15877866 >>15877801 Thank you very much, anon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 15:25:03 2016 No.15877872 File: 39 KB, 526x276, ouch.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Absolutely Wrecked

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 15:31:34 2016 No.15877889 I still haven't figured out Iwaihime's files but I'll keep trying. >>15877866 You're welcome. >>15876926 I'm looking for them. I've extracted all the files, but since I haven't played the game I'm not sure what exactly it is I'm looking for.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 15:35:04 2016 No.15877900 >>15877889 Don't know if this helps, but the Country Girl opening from the trial is named MOV000_OP.mpg

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 15:36:24 2016 No.15877907 >>15877872 It's that moment with Battler, right?

Anonymous Fri Sep 23 15:38:34 2016 No.15877912

>>15877907
Nah. Natsuhi.
Erika is saying Natsuhi never loved Krauss because there's no proof of it, but there is proof in Natsuhis diaries that she despised the Ushiromiya family.
Natsuhi the replies with image related that makes Erika remember that there's no proof that she was in love.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 15:41:49 2016 No.15877921 >>15877900 Found it. Seems, it wasn't from the extracted folders to begin with, which I probably should have figured since Umineko's were the same way. I'm posting the file it was in, so hopefully that will have what you'r looking for.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 15:48:12 2016 No.15877937 Here you go. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BzdNfLGacG1rVlEwaE9HbW00cFE?usp=sharing

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 15:54:36 2016 No.15877951 >>15877937 Thank you

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 17:28:47 2016 No.15878335 http://www.strawpoll.me/11287940 http://www.strawpoll.me/11287940 http://www.strawpoll.me/11287940

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 17:32:30 2016 No.15878349 >>15878335 beato

Anonymous Fri Sep 23 17:36:25 2016 No.15878354

>>15878335
I think those are basically the main ones that didn't get to show of in the VN, not counting Nanjo and Kumasawa which we already have a fight scene for. I voted Gohda just because I love the dude and he's so underutilised. But Kinzo definitely deserves a cool fight scene

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 18:00:57 2016 No.15878437 File: 134 KB, 648x709, 63459750828-06838-.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's the matter /seacats/, cat got your tongue?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 18:10:25 2016 No.15878464 >>15878437 I was completely convinced that was a used condom at first

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 18:11:21 2016 No.15878468 >>15878464 Is it not?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 18:11:53 2016 No.15878470 >>15878437 Guess we know what happened to that Dyatlov hiker's tongue now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 18:16:47 2016 No.15878486 >>15878468 It's a tongue. Look at the veins. Also, tongues are really quite long.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 19:18:32 2016 No.15878691 File: 403 KB, 857x1000, 98uj0880340g.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] deddo suredo

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 19:22:24 2016 No.15878707 >>15878437 Dark.

Anonymous Fri Sep 23 20:47:20 2016 No.15878985

>>15877823
Red Truths are used as justification for the detective to look for other evidence.
For example, if I say in red that the door could only be locked by a single key, it's pointless to assume that there can be multiple keys to build on your theory, but you cannot use the red truth that there is only one key as the basis of your theory.

What evidence did Battler have that proved that Natsuhi was innocent? Nothing but magic or a random guess, and that's a violation.
A red used to show someone's death is not a basis of theorizing. It's just a statement of fact.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 22:19:34 2016 No.15879243 File: 66 KB, 235x241, oiuhygt_u[pkjmjhgf.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15878437 That picture...

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 23:31:06 2016 No.15879441 File: 2.01 MB, 1920x1080, 77oo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 24 00:24:34 2016 No.15879567 I wonder if Yasu can cum

Anonymous Sat Sep 24 00:43:19 2016 No.15879614
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>>15879567
It is impossible for this de-penised individual to experience pain, pleasure, memory, dreams or thought of any kind. This young man will be as unfeeling, or as uncumming as the dead, until the day he joins them.

Anonymous Sat Sep 24 06:12:29 2016 No.15880344

I've just remembered I've never actually read EP4. I started reading the VN while the anime was airing but EP4 really bored me. The pacing was extremely slow and I couldn't give a damn about Ange. Which makes EP4 a tough read because she's such a big part of it. So in the end I gave up and just used the anime adaptation of EP4 for info.
Am I missing out by not reading EP4 fully? I know there's a Krauss fight scene but aside from that is it worth trudging through hours and hours of Ange?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 24 06:33:38 2016 No.15880394 >>15877054 I actually came to that second part multiple times.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 24 07:28:15 2016 No.15880523 File: 521 KB, 1450x1036, FErika333.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] People say Erika no tits, but she tits! Much tits. Very much tits! Beautiful too!

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 24 07:30:14 2016 No.15880525 File: 294 KB, 1456x1060, FErika334.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15880523 Hips too. Childbearing hips!

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 24 07:58:12 2016 No.15880570 >>15880525 You cannot make a child without love! Erika has no love. Therefore Erika has no childbearing hips.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 24 08:00:30 2016 No.15880576 >>15880570 >Erika has no love. Lack of proof does not equal that your statement is true. Devils proof!

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 24 08:14:20 2016 No.15880603 >>15880576 Ah, the old absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. But if I rape Erika, she would not love it! I gold truth that Erika cannot love or has never loved anyone or anything but herself and truth!

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 24 09:40:03 2016 No.15880801 >>15880603 >But if I rape Erika, she would not love it! Small penis is nothing to be proud of.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 24 10:03:17 2016 No.15880867 >>15880801 Funny.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 24 10:27:53 2016 No.15880923 Reminder that Lamb>>>>Lucifer>>>>shit>>>>>rest>>>>>>tranny

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 24 10:29:05 2016 No.15880925 >>15880923 loli > *

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 24 15:42:16 2016 No.15881842 >reading the first episode of seacats >staring at all the cast >Hmm. I bet Shannon is the culprit! My deduction skills are shit, but I love my intuition.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 24 16:43:05 2016 No.15882040 >>15881842 I thought it'd be Kanon. It still feels weird that we're both right.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 24 17:21:58 2016 No.15882128 where is the goat who wants to spank Bernkastel?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 24 17:40:11 2016 No.15882179 >>15880344 I thought the Ange and Maria stuff was fairly interesting and added a lot to the story, that plotline definitely gets more interesting around the end, though. Aside from that stuff, the ending of episode 4 is pretty great.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 24 17:48:12 2016 No.15882203 >>15880344 They skipped the scene where Battler investigates all the crime scenes, which is where all the clues are shown. If you don't want to read the vn then at least read the manga instead of the anime.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 24 17:56:37 2016 No.15882231 File: 451 KB, 663x476, Erika Bra Dawn Manga.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15880523

Anonymous Sat Sep 24 18:13:22 2016 No.15882279

>>15881842
My intuition was actually spot on when I first read
>Umineko
>okay so it's like Higurashi
>it's a time loop of some kind
>who's the one who remembers?
>no one
>hmmm but Shannon and Kanon keep talking about how it's predicted and act overly calm
>they're the ones looping but why two? And why them?
I still remember complaining years ago that it was weird that everyone acted like pieces except them but never thought it was relevant.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 24 18:19:41 2016 No.15882303 >>15882279 There's also the fact that they're the ones shown interacting with Beatrice the most.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 24 22:04:56 2016 No.15882982 Anyone has that image of Erika eating a cake with small bombs on it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 24 22:16:40 2016 No.15883014 File: 606 KB, 1000x706, bern 3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 24 23:58:32 2016 No.15883264 >>15883014 MMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 25 01:23:16 2016 No.15883433 File: 729 KB, 800x975, 16257601_p0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15880525

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 25 01:24:37 2016 No.15883434 >>15883433 >milk instead of sake <good!>, sake tastes like shit anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 25 05:35:38 2016 No.15884036 File: 1.70 MB, 900x1200, Erika learns how to use the gold truth.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What would Battler's married life with Erika have been like?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 25 05:55:34 2016 No.15884080 It has been a while, Seacats. Did that new WTC VN come out yet?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 25 06:18:07 2016 No.15884137 >>15884080 There's no new WTC VN, but Trianthology just came out recently.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 25 06:51:48 2016 No.15884200 >>15884137 Do you have a torrent?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 25 07:01:30 2016 No.15884233 >>15884200 I'm not posting one yet. It's too soon. I will post one eventually though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 25 12:10:04 2016 No.15885038 >>15884036 There's a page where Erika says she will never love battler and that the marriage is just there to finalize Battler being trapped.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 25 12:12:05 2016 No.15885045 >>15885038 Yes, but she clearly plans to have sex with him, if only to humiliate him.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 25 13:35:51 2016 No.15885314 File: 82 KB, 634x566, h006_018.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I love re-reading Umineko.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 25 14:04:15 2016 No.15885404 >>15884233 In this year at least?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 25 17:34:51 2016 No.15886141 >>15885404 Probably on Halloween at the latest.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 25 17:47:06 2016 No.15886189 >>15886141 Thanks, mate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 05:34:58 2016 No.15887978 When lion yasu was a little baby, Sitting on his daddies knee, His daddy stomped his dick, threw it on the floor and said "the baby done gone pissed on me"

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 12:27:58 2016 No.15889030 I miss the games.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 13:58:44 2016 No.15889344 >>15889030 Threads certainly were a lot more lively

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 14:19:07 2016 No.15889393 >>15889344 There's productive activity and then there's just spam

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 14:30:56 2016 No.15889450 File: 322 KB, 349x513, 1474914656185.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15889393 And then there's Erikaposting.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 14:32:43 2016 No.15889459

>>15889393
The games weren't spam. Spam is posting pictures of cute girls without adding anything to the discussion. The games were fun and imaginative and had many anons playing along, providing theories etc. And those posts branched out into different topics and ended up with bustling threads.
Now look at us. 5 posts in 24 hours.
Which do you prefer?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 14:34:49 2016 No.15889469 >>15889459 I prefer to read TRi.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 14:35:06 2016 No.15889473 >>15889459 5 posts in 24 hours is nice, yep

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 14:40:07 2016 No.15889491

>>15889473
Please elaborate on why you would rather reside in a dead thread than a lively one with actual discussion going on. Seriously, tell me, I'd like to have an actual discussion again, it's been a while.
Then again, if you really prefer having 5 posts in 24 hours, you'll probably not reply to this post anyway.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 14:41:07 2016 No.15889495

>>15889459
The games going on constantly wasn't very interesting. We didn't need them every thread taking up every post in every thread. Original content is what is needed across several types along with discussion about the series. When it's just a single topic swallowing up every thread it's not fun to read.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 14:42:52 2016 No.15889505 >>15889491 What is sarcasm? Pls tell me because I don't know.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 14:46:39 2016 No.15889522 >>15889505 What is sarcasm? Hard to detect in written form unless comically exaggerated.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 14:49:53 2016 No.15889533
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>>15889495
I see your point. It must've been annoying for the people who didn't want to play along. In that case, why don't you post something interesting? Jesus, anything's better than a full day of silence. Shitpost for all I care, just take away this crushing loneliness.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 14:50:39 2016 No.15889537 [DELETED]

>>15889522
Well, according to the Wikipedia Sarcasm is "a sharp, bitter, or cutting expression or remark; a bitter gibe or taunt." Sarcasm may employ ambivalence, although sarcasm is not necessarily ironic. "The distinctive quality of sarcasm is present in the spoken word and manifested chiefly by vocal inflections". The sarcastic content of a statement will be dependent upon the context in which it appears.
Fascinating. Today I learned something new!

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>Shitpost for all I care, just take away this crushing loneliness.
Are you really super mega completely absolute sure you want that???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? In that case, no. I prefer to behave and leave you with your misery. Suffer anon suffer! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 15:21:59 2016 No.15889674 What is your genuine opinion on Beatrice? Did it change significantly throughout reading the story? Did it change when you re-read Umineko?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 15:56:02 2016 No.15889774 >>15889674 I like her as a character but I prefer not to think of her as Yasu, or anything to do with her really. More like a Moriarty to Battler's Holmes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 16:37:01 2016 No.15889920 >>15889674 Yeah, I used to hate her but in the end I pitied her, but since uminekozzz are so mixed up I pity meta BEBato more that a real one, still a pity tho.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 20:10:46 2016 No.15890520

>>15874203
>3 of them were alerted by incredible deafening ringing in their ears. Feeling immense pressure, two have brain damage and die on spot.
>made the rest burst out of their tents by unknown device(?)
> 6 of them went into panic after hearing/seeing aforementioned and escaped into the darkness.
>woman was too slow and fell to the device before getting out of its effective range
>the 5 die due to the nature
>one came back and removed tongue post-death
>last one shared the same fate

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 21:08:37 2016 No.15890706 Is there anywhere to find all of the steam umineko sprites? I can only find a select few around.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 21:12:30 2016 No.15890715 >>15890706 https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BzdNfLGacG1reDNoQURDcW5LUk0

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 21:15:54 2016 No.15890722 File: 47 KB, 392x417, 1471687499440.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15890715 Cheers man.

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 02:31:11 2016 No.15891468

This thread is pure cancer.

You are a bunch of deluded faggots that keep disguising the bullshit you just came up with as "truths" and putting it above what the work says. You keep jerking eachother off. You cannot think outside the fandom and the "solution" boxes. You all look disabled to me.

You all disgusting retards keep avoiding discussing umineko with actual clues, you keep pushing chiru's nonsense crap on when someone else talks about something that has nothing to do with whatever the crap EP8 came up with, you keep deluding yourselves to think solving the mystery is not important, or even you are actually reaching some kind of truth. When someone else comes and proposes an alternative, you all shut them up with your mass-thinking. You cannot stand the idea someone else coming up with something that could be right and you didn't think of it before, and automatically think they are wrong.

None of you give a single damn about solving or descovering anything. All of you care is to look cool with your name and animu OC, and pass as "great thinkers and detectives". Bullshit. You are all pathetic no-ones in an imageboard discussing a fucking doujin novel for years and years while being totally unable to reach an actual conclusion. Thats what I call losing your time for good. It's really needed to find stronger words than the simple "incompetent" to describe you in red.

You don't even deserve to be called "goats". Keep haunting this logic error of debate forever, never find the way out of this shithole.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 03:40:16 2016 No.15891582 >>15891468 Beatrice did it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 03:51:48 2016 No.15891592 >>15891468 I've often said I believe Yasu to be a red herring.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 04:23:44 2016 No.15891630 File: 203 KB, 447x512, 269.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15891468 You forgot to attach this image to your post.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 05:45:09 2016 No.15891786 >>15891630 flipping nerd

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 05:46:26 2016 No.15891792 beato

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 05:48:11 2016 No.15891794 i wish battler-kun would rape me

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 11:17:47 2016 No.15892496 >>15878691 Cute dude.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 11:48:18 2016 No.15892593 >>15874203 When Apemen attack. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape_Canyon#Disappearance_of_skier_Jim_Carter

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 14:05:02 2016 No.15893128 >>15891468 If you have an alternative theory then by all means feel free to post it. Or did you just want to complain?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 14:39:04 2016 No.15893268 File: 9 KB, 110x200, Ezreal_chroma.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >pay real life money for this skin because it makes me think of Battler >I can't even play the character well >it looks like trash in-game >who am I quoting

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 14:42:09 2016 No.15893280 >>15877801 Thanks! What are the names of the characters that look like Bern and Beato?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 14:46:03 2016 No.15893295 >>15893280 I don't know if this is their actual names, but the sprites for Beato's lookalike are under Karen while Bern's are under Huka.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 14:49:51 2016 No.15893310 File: 151 KB, 384x595, bern smile.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15893295 Thank you

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 14:52:07 2016 No.15893315

>>15893280
NotBern is named Takatori Fuhka and NotBeato is named Saijyouji Karen

That's what the official site says at least, but the romanization is kind of weird so I don't know if it's completely right. Fuhka should be Fuuka, right?
http://trt.07th-expansion.net/charaScl.php

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 14:54:59 2016 No.15893325 File: 274 KB, 787x1400, berndance.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15893315 Takatori Fucka or Takatori Fucker

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 15:03:25 2016 No.15893354 >>15893315 FUrude riKA

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 15:05:20 2016 No.15893357

>>15891468
BREH I know right? All these posers thinking they're hot shit when they couldn't even solve umineko by the end of ch1 intro sequence.

Really, I bet they can't even memorize any image in an instant and they couldn't slice the cheese with 1 slice.

Peace out Goats. Stay dumb

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 15:23:03 2016 No.15893394 If a Gohda is killed in the kitchen, and nobody's there to see it, does he really die?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 15:23:44 2016 No.15893397 >>15893354 MIND=BLOWN

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 15:48:32 2016 No.15893463 File: 270 KB, 1616x744, magicalgohdachef.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15893394 Trick question as we all know Gohda can't lose in the kitchen!!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 15:59:21 2016 No.15893496 File: 238 KB, 395x700, Magical Gohda Chef Endless.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15893463

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 16:03:16 2016 No.15893511 >>15893394 Since when were you under the impression that gohda is dead?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 16:05:35 2016 No.15893514 >>15893496 With this golden spatula I slice through your shields of blue! I am Magical Gohda Chef, the Endless Chef! No theories can disprove that it was the chef that did it! Now come, blunt your weapons on the Endless Truth of my culpability!

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 16:07:40 2016 No.15893521

>>15893511
It is possible for Gohda to be dead. However, it is impossible for Gohda to lose in the kitchen. Therefore the only possible solution is this!
/BLUE/ Gohda was murdered in a different room! His body was then carried to the kitchen! This theory works because it doesn't contravene Knox' 11th: "Gohda can't lose in the kitchen!"

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 16:10:42 2016 No.15893532 >>15891468 >I didn't like Chiru so it isn't canon Oh boy, this again

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 16:14:18 2016 No.15893544
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>>15893514

Bern) “Lambda. What kind of farce is this? The preparations for dinner have already been finished, and we’re ready to serve the Hors d'oeuvre’s.”

Lambda) “Sorry Bern. You’ll have to put it under a heat lamp. Isn’t that right, Toshiro Gohda?”
Gohda) “Yes. My apologies for making you wait, Erika-sama, Bernkastel-sama. Now it’s time for my meal.”

Lambda) “Request for a meal change accepted. The kitchen of witches retracts the menu for tonight’s dinner.”

Bern) “O, objection! The food has already been made and the menu has even been announced to the guests!”

Lambda) “Objection overruled!! All leftovers are overshadowed by fresh dishes!!”

Bern) “Objection!! Not only has Gohda been banished from the kitchen, he also doesn’t hold the rank of Head Chef! He isn’t qualified to create a new menu!”

Lambda) “Objection overruled!! He already has that. By the name of Lambdadelta, Witch of Culinary, I acknowledge it… Toshiro Gohda…! I acknowledge you as the new Golden Cook, no, as the new Endless Chef!!!”

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 16:27:55 2016 No.15893584
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>>15893544
Fufufu....then prepare for the might of the Endless Chef. For starters, you will sit me on a throne worthy of the Endless Chef. Then for the main course you will worship me as the God I am! Your first mistake was to give me this much power, Lambdadelta-chan. Now sit on my lap and whisper sweet nothings into my Endless ears!
Now begins the rule of the Endless Chef!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 16:42:15 2016 No.15893633 Is Umineko postmodern or post-postmodern?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 16:43:13 2016 No.15893637 File: 156 KB, 322x600, lam_a11_akuwarai1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15893633 pre-post-postmodern.

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 16:56:15 2016 No.15893671

>>15893633
Arguments can be made in favour of both, it's rather difficult. It's postmodern as in it's a deconstruction of the genre. It also strings the reader along, thinking they will get a straight answer to this murder mystery, but then they aren't given an answer at all and much is left blank. Then again it could be considered post-postmodern as in it takes the idea of leaving things unanswered but actually gives you fairly hard hints in order to get the answer yourself. In essence, a deconstruction of a deconstruction. It might actually be unique.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 16:56:46 2016 No.15893674 >>15893633 Post-classic modern pre-gothic current construction of deconstruction of the meta genre with mystery/anti-fantasy underovertones

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 17:00:57 2016 No.15893683

So for those who played Tri already, what's Bern's personality like? Is it the same as in Umineko or is she slightly less of a cunt?

Bern said that she was playing the role of a villain near the end of Umineko, so I'm just wondering if she acts differently since she's not confined to a role as far as I know.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 17:01:23 2016 No.15893685 File: 139 KB, 637x477, 809024.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15893637 >>15893674 P-please take this seriously..!

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 18:09:08 2016 No.15893930

Riddle me this.

Genji is found dead, hanging by the neck by a noose in the garden shed. A small stool is found next to him, knocked over. He is naked. The garden shed was locked from the inside. The only key that can be used to open or lock the garden shed is in his trouser pocket which is lying beside him in the garden shed.
Genji did not commit suicide.

What happened?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 18:19:27 2016 No.15893971 >>15893930 Is the door the only way to get into the garden shed? Is it impossible for anything to enter or exit the shed while the door is locked? Is the key the only way for the door to be locked and unlocked?

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 18:22:30 2016 No.15893981

>>15893930
Genji is a fan of autoerotic asphyxiation. He is smart enough to use the stool to teeter on the brink of choking, but also smart enough not to knock it over. He locked the door, undressed, and began masturbating. Unfortunately for him, Godha, in a rage of jealousy at Natushi's preference for the aging servant over himself, stalked Genji and found out about his alone time. Then, as Genji was just about to orgasm, Godha, who had hidden himself in the shed earlier, kicked the stool out from underneath him, resulting in his death.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 18:23:20 2016 No.15893985 >>15893633 Post mortem, because it's dead

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 18:26:15 2016 No.15893996

>>15893971
/red/ The door is the only way to get into the garden shed.
/red/ It is impossible for anything to enter or exit the shed while the door is locked.
/red/ The key is the only way for the door to be locked and unlocked.

But then, if nobody could get in or out of the shed, and Genji did not commit suicide, how come he's dead?
The clue is in the fact that he's naked!

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 18:29:36 2016 No.15894010

>>15893996
>>15893981
Ah, I spotted your post too late! You're spot on!
Genji simply wanted some autoerotic asphyxiation time alone. He locked the shed, undressed and got into position. During his passionate session however, he accidentally knocked the stool over and was left to hang, knowing nobody could save him as he had locked himself in.

Quite an easy one, I have to say. Thought I'd try my hand at some one-off mysteries instead of creating a whole game to clog up the thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 19:39:13 2016 No.15894248 File: 225 KB, 467x541, gohda x cake.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15893584 What are you saying!? You can't do this to me!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 19:56:01 2016 No.15894288 Dlanor is an edgelord.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 20:04:59 2016 No.15894312 >>15894288 Don't call me THAT

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 20:37:37 2016 No.15894379 >>15873947 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flannan_Isles_Lighthouse I have loved shit like this since I was a kid. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaspar_Hauser

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 20:40:51 2016 No.15894384 >>15873947 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vela_Incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloop

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 22:15:35 2016 No.15894622 They really should have kept Erika dead at the end of CH6. As much as she's an awesome character, the way she died was absolutely incredible and bringing her back after that just pales in comparison.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 22:25:48 2016 No.15894654 >>15894622 Especially since she seemed to lose all her character development upon revival.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 22:26:58 2016 No.15894656 >>15894622 I know there's a lot of flack for ch6 onward in umineko, but Erika is ch6 was absolutely brilliant. Once she started going on about the 'perfect autopsy' I was grinning from ear to ear.

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 22:31:27 2016 No.15894661

>>15894656
Upon re-reading ch6, I can see why R07 had to put that love duel thing in there and I also can see why people who are focused in mystery aspect would find it boring, since you either
don't get that it's a clue about the personalities
already know the truth and the long lines of text saying the same hints over and over again gets boring
are just interested in the murders and facts

and upon a re-read I can appreciate what battler is showing us, but all of it just pales in comparison to the big showdown between Erika and Battler and then the 2nd showdown between Erika and Beato

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 22:37:29 2016 No.15894667 >>15894661 WIllard on the other hand I still can't stand. His role could have been filled out literally by any other already existing character. And he's annoying to boot. Biggest mistake of Umineko - Willard

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 22:44:40 2016 No.15894688

>>15894667
>His role could have been filled out literally by any other already existing character.

I think Dlanor would have been best. She has basically the same background, and it would've been nice to see her develop between Episode's 6 and 8 instead of suddenly changing sides.

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 23:56:59 2016 No.15894855
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Here's the (hopefully) final version of Jessica's nude edit. I tried experimenting with highlights, I think turned out pretty well. Beato's next, then back to work on Kyrie.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 00:14:24 2016 No.15894885 File: 487 KB, 960x1204, Jessica final outfits.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15894855 And here are the final lewd and alternate outfits.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 07:55:14 2016 No.15895844 >Person [pur-suh n] >A human being Fuck you Yasu, fuck you so goddam much

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 08:14:06 2016 No.15895898 >>15895844 The Japanese text acutally differentiates between 人 (person) and 人の人間 (person that is a human being). It isn't very apparent in the translation, but Shannon and Kanon are always referred to as just 人

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 08:19:09 2016 No.15895916 >>15895898 Oooh. I see. Well, shit then. That's useful to know

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 09:13:48 2016 No.15896102 >>15894885 Me on right. Nice.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 11:06:43 2016 No.15896582 >>15895898 Yeah, my ass just exploded when I understood how much I missed because of translation.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 11:49:28 2016 No.15896739 >>15896582 I'll make your ass explode for different reasons ;)

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 16:43:25 2016 No.15897970 File: 52 KB, 410x570, 0827348669.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Was it rape?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 16:45:22 2016 No.15897980 >>15894379 >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flannan_Isles_Lighthouse I really like this one. The isolated lighthouse setting is great.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 17:12:09 2016 No.15898218 >>15894885 >>15894855 Looks great. I love it. >>15894248 Leeeewd

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 17:16:53 2016 No.15898240 >>15894248 You will bow down to the will of the Endless Chef. I will prepare an absolute feast for you, Lambdadelta-chan. And you will enjoy its flavour until the last droplet of sauce is tuckered safely in your belly.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 17:18:06 2016 No.15898244 >>15894855 Can I get some nipples?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 17:26:54 2016 No.15898276 >>15898244 Only the devil likes nipples!

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 17:28:32 2016 No.15898287

Would you rather:
Live in a seemingly peaceful rural village with your best friends with a reasonable chance of growing insanely paranoid and/or end up clawing out your own throat?
Or
Be a privileged rich person with expendable income and a chunk of a huge inheritance coming your way sooner or later, even though your family members are all huge pieces of shit and a confused dickless maid might try to lock you in a room and kill you/explode the island you're staying on?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 17:29:55 2016 No.15898291 >>15898276 Only the devil? Have you even asked the devil? Where's your devil's proof?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 17:32:12 2016 No.15898302 >>15898291 /blue truth/ you are the devil

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 17:40:28 2016 No.15898336 >>15898302 /RED/ I am the Devil. /RED/ I like nipples. Now where's your proof that I, alone, like nipples? /RED/ You are incompetent.

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 17:48:37 2016 No.15898377
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>>15898336
Irrelevant.

>Then Jesus asked him, "What is your name?" "My name is Legion," he replied, "for we are many."

If someone else is found to also like nipples, they too are the devil.

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 18:01:25 2016 No.15898416

>>15898377
I admire your tenacity, boy.
However!

/RED/ "Many" does not equal "everyone"!
You want to prove that only I like nipples? It is the easiest thing to prove. Just ask anyone! Everyone loves nipples, but not everyone is me! For you are not me, or are you? Are we all just one atom moving endlessly through space and time, creating this universe?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 18:06:08 2016 No.15898436 File: 261 KB, 395x700, 1475006361520.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15898416 Did someone say Endless?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 18:10:03 2016 No.15898454 >>15895898 So when they are called furniture in the translation, it is 人? Or is it more subtle than that?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 18:14:09 2016 No.15898466 I want a Umineko x Sonic crossover!!

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 18:18:03 2016 No.15898484 >>15898466 Gotta solve fast!

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 18:19:21 2016 No.15898493
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>>15898416
I did not say that EVERYONE was the devil either, only those that like nipples. I stated that only the devil likes nipples. Assuredly, you will find other people who also like nipples, but they are not humans, they are the devil!
Anyone who do not like nipples are humans!

/Red/ You are the devil
/Red/ You like nipples
/Gold/ the Devil can be many people
/Blue/ the devil can be an infinite number of people, including most of humanity!

What proof do you have that everyone likes nipples? Raven paradox!
The devil is not restricted to a single body!

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 18:33:31 2016 No.15898541

>>15898493
You put up a good fight, boy. Not many show this much determination.

I have already given you the reds that I am indeed the devil, and that I indeed like nipples.
And because I believe you deserve them, I will verify your gold and blue.
/RED/ The Devil can be many people!
/RED/ The Devil can be an infinite number of people, including most of humanity!

HOWEVER!
Does not every babe suck from their mother's teat? Does not every human that is born into this world acquire sustenance from their mother's nipples? Do they not need it to survive? Would you say that all babes across this world are me, the Devil? Would you say they are not human? Is it not human to feast upon the milk of thine mother? If those who enjoy nipples are in fact me, the Devil, then is not every single human being that is born, by default, me?

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 18:50:56 2016 No.15898601
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>>15898541
No! That's simply instinct, not enjoyment!
Babies are only attracted to nipples as a survival mechanism, not out of enjoyment! Babies cannot tell whether they like nipples or merely suck on them instinctively. A baby can also be given a bottle that resembles a nipple to suck on and live a perfect healthy life. Babies do not like nipples!

Survival is not a measure of enjoyment or a decision! Nor is it mainly a human activity! Many mammals also suck on nipples at an early age but none do so after they've grown out of childhood.

>If those who enjoy nipples are in fact me, the Devil, then is not every single human being that is born, by default, me?
Such sophistry. Would you also claim that all animals who suck nipples are also the devil? Useless, it's all useless.

/Blue/ A survival mechanism is not a decision
/Blue/ A decision can only be made when a person has a conscious awareness of reality and life
/Blue/ Babies do not have such awareness because they have no lasting memories
/Blue/ When people develop their first early sustained awareness, they are no longer babies, the age in which nipples are an influence on their life!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM-Stt5Yq6o

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 19:09:10 2016 No.15898671

>>15898601
Survival may not be a measure of enjoyment. However, you cannot prove babies do not enjoy nipples! Do you not enjoy the food you eat? Is it merely a survival mechanism when you cook yourself a meal? Babies might not be given the choice, but were you to take the nipple away from them while they are unfulfilled, tears would stream down their faces! Does this not constitute enjoyment, whether they are aware of it or not?

You are trying to prove your point that all humans who enjoy nipples are me, the Devil. You want to take babies out of the equation, so be it. Then let us speak of adults! Nipples are a source of endless pleasure for adults! Their sensitivity is unparalleled, except perhaps for the major organs of reproduction. Adult women play with their nipples in order to feel sexual pleasure, and they let men do the same to their nipples. Both men and women receive pleasure from this exercise! Would you say that these people do not like nipples? Are all people who enjoy the sensitivity of nipples me, the Devil? Are all couples, fondling away in their beds, either alone or together in the dead of night simply me, the Devil?

You try to say babes do not have a say in the matter of nipples. But what about adults, with varying tastes and definite awareness? Do they not enjoy nipples? Are they all me, the Devil?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O18lICr-5Q

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 19:25:59 2016 No.15898744
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>>15898671
I cannot prove a negative nor should I be held accountable to prove such a claim. You are the one who must prove that babies enjoy nipples.

I enjoy the taste of food, not merely food itself. Would you keep eating rice crackers or oat meal that taste nothing for the rest of your life? I doubt even the devil would subjugate itself to such torture. People enjoy food that taste good, not the act of chewing itself because you need food to survive.

As for babies crying if they are not given nipples, that is incorrect. And I should've nailed you for that!

/Blue/ Babies will not cry if you give them a bottle with artificial milk as a replacement for nipples.

>Are all people who enjoy the sensitivity of nipples me, the Devil?
People are attracted to breast! Not nipples! You will never find a human who is attracted to nipples themselves! People may suck on nipples in sexual acts but that is simply because they are connected to breasts! The whole together is what people like, not simply nipples! People like to suck on nipples and the act of sucking is in of itself enjoyable, but not the nipples themselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cwaWybHkuE

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 19:44:23 2016 No.15898809 >>15898287 Village. At least you have a chance at getting a good end. You're pretty much guaranteed death in the second option.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 19:48:37 2016 No.15898821 >>15898287 Island, and this time I'll at least try to apologize to my son/daughter before being killed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 20:38:42 2016 No.15899038 >>15897980 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Celeste https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chase_Vault https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croglin_Grange https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sava_Savanovi%C4%87

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 22:37:42 2016 No.15899442 >>15898244 I'll probably go back and add nipples and slits too all the edits at some point.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 22:50:22 2016 No.15899506 >>15899442 Don't fall to the temptations of the devil!

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 22:56:47 2016 No.15899523 >>15899506 To be honest I also like them though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 03:53:36 2016 No.15900308 >>15898809 >You're pretty much guaranteed death in the second option But everyone dies eventually anon

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 06:08:43 2016 No.15900675 File: 193 KB, 404x479, 13213425343354.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15899523 Devil, deviiiiiil!

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 06:23:32 2016 No.15900706 File: 250 KB, 960x960, 1475144612334.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15900675 But without nipples you can't fully appreciate clothes that leave them partially exposed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 06:28:58 2016 No.15900718 >>15900706 That's only because you're hiding the nipple! You love it so much you have to hide most of it to enhance the eroticism.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 07:01:22 2016 No.15900798 >>15900718 Then what about clothing that leaves the nipples fully exposed while still covering most of the body? That also adds extra eroticism, even though the nipples themselves aren't hidden at all. http://imgur.com/Jt18s61

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 07:36:21 2016 No.15900882 About to head into rose gun days, what should I expect? Is it as enjoyable as Higurashi and Umineko?

Anonymous Thu Sep 29 07:36:30 2016 No.15900883

>>15900718
While it's true that it’s more tempting when it’s mostly hidden, what makes it tempting is the fact that it’s so close to revealing them. It’s the thought that the clothes could shift just a tiny bit and give you a glimpse of her bare nipples. In the end, it doesn’t change the fact that deep down you want to see those nipples fully exposed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 11:46:56 2016 No.15901443 >>15901439 >>15901439 >>15901439

Anonymous Thu Sep 29 16:38:04 2016 No.15902435

>>15900882
Except Shonen hijinks fun of Moulin Rouge, Cowboy Bebop and Baccano. It doesn't get good until the mini boss is defeated and the first 'real' boss shows up. Then it doesn't stop being good until the end.
Season 3 is up there with Higurashi ep 6 and Umineko ep 5 in terms of greatness.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 16:39:45 2016 No.15902446 >>15902435 Expect*.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 16:47:39 2016 No.15902476 >>15900798 I still think it's more erotic if it's half covered. >>15900883 It's a fine line. A very fine line, and that line is what builds the eroticism. Once you do see the nipple, all you can think of is disappointment.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 17:08:27 2016 No.15902531 >>15902476 >It's a fine line. Well then, just where is that line? At what point of a nipple slip is the eroticism highest? Just a hint of the areola? Edge of the nipple? Some of the nipple?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 18:50:11 2016 No.15902843 File: 898 KB, 1006x1121, Ange Jessica pallet.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15902476 >>15902531 Bringing this discussion back to Umineko, what color should their nipples be anyway?

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