Mahjong Thread

[Anonymous No.]

>yfw getting ron'd right here

General information
http://pastebin.com/9WYsXMLF

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842736
There's no real reason to not throw the 6 sou here.

[Anonymous No.]

Who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.]

WAKE ME UP

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842736
Single wait on a wind tile is awesome, works pretty damn often.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842994
>single wait

Do you not realize all easts are visible? There's only one possible hand that can ron here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15843039
>Only one possible hand...

MASAKA...!

[Anonymous No.]

3.0

[Anonymous No.]

>>15843449
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7Tm1Em3JU0

[Anonymous No.]

>two consecutive 4th places
Welp, the winning streak was fun while it lasted

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Someone give me a yaku cheat sheet and which ones should I learn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15846308
Riichi, pinfu, tanyao, menzen tsumo, and yakuhai/kazehai are your bread and butter yaku. You'll use these more often than any other in a standard game.

Chanta, junchan, ippekoi, chitoitsu, toitoi, itsu, honitsu, chinitsus, and shanshoku will pop up less often but you should learn to recognize when to pursue them.

There's plenty of other ones, but focus on learning how to best use the ones above before spending time on fluke yaku like rinshan or yakuman hands.

You might also benefit from drilling on tile efficientcy and reading daina Chiba's free ebook

[Anonymous No.]

>>15846308
Play more and learn all of them. The quicker you learn all of them, the quicker you'll become a good player. It's just a mix of rote memorization and experience playing.

[Anonymous No.]

2.0

[Anonymous No.]

>>15846579
again

[Anonymous No.]

>game going well
>2nd place but in a good spot
>Toimen gets double ron'd on TWO (2) tanki waits for south wind, when another was visible
>He busts out, I end up 3rd

Could have been worse, but shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>15846451
>>15846356
I remember there was a cheat sheet pdf where is it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842736
So you lost to a riichi kokushi?
LOVING
EVERY
LAUGH

[Anonymous No.]

>>15849680
google.com has quite a few I think

[Anonymous No.]

Nice hacks.

[Anonymous No.]

3:0

[Anonymous No.]

>Tenhoui in 7447 again
Seriously what's going on?

[Anonymous No.]

Is it me or is tenhou's server down?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15851255
The osamuko community has invited some high level players, and they've stuck around for a little while. We're also getting some Houoi players trying to poach them too. It's a good time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15853474

[Anonymous No.]

>>15853784
even bad players can occasionally beat pros, just do your best

[Anonymous No.]

>Hold a damaten for 5 turns
>Feel it
>Call riichi and get an ippatsu

Nothing tops this feeling.

[Anonymous No.]

3.0

[Anonymous No.]

>>15854438
0:4

[Anonymous No.]

Would you call riichi here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15855108
Nope, a shanpon on 9m 2s isn't particularly good, and there's only one 9m left. It's South 4 and you have a very good lead. I'd deal the 9m.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15855116
Okay, that's what I thought as well, though it didn't help me in the end. Kamicha got a 4 hand winning streak with 3 mangan and I ended up in 3rd place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15855108
No, huge lead. S4. Why give NoName even a remote chance at passing you up?

[Anonymous No.]

2.0

[Anonymous No.]

>>15855618
this again

[Anonymous No.]

3.0

[Anonymous No.]

>>15856311
2.0

[Anonymous No.]

http://www30.atpages.jp/mojan/dbranking_all.php?l=L7447&m=0

>7447 this month

It's nice having such a lively custom lobby. Good job everyone.

[Anonymous No.]

I threw together a quick userscript to count how many times you've played against people according to Arcturus. Results are logged to the console. You can customize the minimum game count threshold and whether or not to ignore NoName.

http://pastebin.com/j45d8cBH

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone know if it's possible to rip the flash file tenhou uses for the game?
I want the notification sound for my phone message sound. You know, the one that comes up when you can do chi or pon.

[Anonymous No.]

3.0

[Anonymous No.]

>>15862600
Try downloading the desktop client and rooting through the directory. I know it's possible to change the files, so they must be in there somewhere

[Anonymous No.]

>>15863076
Somehow I get a feeling setting some sort of screen record on and waiting for a notification to come up will be easier than trying to dig it out of the dat files.

[Anonymous No.]

>winning a place with the absolutely last possible action in the game thanks to a haitei rayoui in oorasu.
It feels pretty good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15863997
You don't gain anything for second in ippan

[Anonymous No.]

3.0

[Anonymous No.]

There isn't a better feeling in the world than hitting the player in the lead with a dealer haneman from fourth and swapping spots.

Especially when said player is 6dan and you are the clear underdog in terms of rank

[Anonymous No.]

>>15867273
Was said player disconnected?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15868522
No, there's no good feels associated with a Ron on a corpse

[Anonymous No.]

3.0

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone know where this is from? Because this is pretty much me right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15870177
Been there. Trick is to learn from your mistakes and not get in a bad head space

[Anonymous No.]

>>15870177
I just dropped out of Tokujou after losing over 60R and then some. A good 30 of those were due to shitty internet connection.

Feels terrible.

[Anonymous No.]

just posting because got my first sanbaiman

oh those ura-dora

[Anonymous No.]

>>15870886
>just posting because got my first sanbaiman

You sure showed those bots alright.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15870930
I'll play some humans when I'm ready

not with you, though because associate with obese chinks

[Anonymous No.]

I just pissed away a suu ankou, ask me anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15872058
why break up a pair before discarding a lone yakuhai?

[Anonymous No.]

>600/1200
wew, that's quite the jump.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15870463
what the fuck is bad head space

[Anonymous No.]

>>15876117
Getting down on yourself for losing and such

[Anonymous No.]

>>15870958
Yea, maintain your own pace. Only in that way, can you maintain your own sanity.

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like mahjong is complicated as fuck. At first glance it seems pretty similar to lots of card games, but there is so much extra bullshit to worry about.

[Anonymous No.]

2.0

[Anonymous No.]

>Guy kicks you down all the way to last place
>He has a chance to get first
>Push a shit hand just to ruin his chances, purely out of spite

[Anonymous No.]

>>15878536
And a lot of bullshit. Be warned.

[Anonymous No.]

post stats

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw you get fucking wrecked if you do anything other than play super defensively.

At least I'm improving right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15879350
Still gotta score points in a game, or else be left behind

[Anonymous No.]

So is 7447 a /jp/sie only room or will I be bullied by people who are actually good?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15880084
>will I be bullied by people who are actually good?
Recently, actually good players of high rank have started showing up, but usually you'll be fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15880188
What's considered high rank?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15880193
Any that can get into Houou, so 7 dan or higher. But you might even run into a Tenhoui sometimes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15842736
>losing to riichi kokushi musou
Absolutely 10/10

[Anonymous No.]

*screaming*

[Anonymous No.]

>>15880084
7447 is a great place to experiment and learn since there's no rank points given or lost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15880084
/jp/ has some really good players too, but overall 7447 is home for all western community so you can also find people from Osamuko and Fkmtkrazy (or other minor sites).

also as >>15880188
said, recently some strong japs are starting to show up

[Anonymous No.]

>>15880470
Why are they arriving, are they here to bully us?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15880472
Because playing against exact same players for every games is just boring, so they invite some Japanese players.
And by some Japanese players, I mean Tenhoui rank holders.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15880477
That's not very nice

[Anonymous No.]

>>15880479
Why? It's almost like free trip to houou lobby.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15880484
Because I don't want to get BTFO

[Anonymous No.]

>>15880472
>are they here to bully us?
Yes. They're coming here to spread riichi mahjong to the west so that they can turn around and bully us at it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15880505
>Because I don't want to get BTFO

You might be playing the wrong game, then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15880505
You should just take advantage of the opportunity and try to learn from what people who are better at the game than you are doing.

[Anonymous No.]

Do people have any conversation in 7447 every now and then?

Its web-version client doesn't have chat functions so web-version users can't see a chat log at all.

[Anonymous No.]

2 more

[Anonymous No.]

>>15881167
>web-version users can't see a chat log at all.
That so? I generally use the flash version and I have a little chat box in the corner, hardly sees any use though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15881167
the HTML version works with the chatbox, or you can circlejerk with reddit in the osamuko discord.

[Anonymous No.]

>Lost like 70R, dropped lobby AND got demoted in this streak of games

I hate this.

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw always NoName
>leave the lobby whenever I lose a single hand
>don't give a fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>15882352

[Anonymous No.]

>>15882352
fourth, maybe even fifth rate as a human being

[Anonymous No.]

>game isn't going that great, but plenty of time and opportunity to get back to 1st
>Dealer turn
>Start with two ton and two hatsu
>Decide to call and push for open honitsu

>Toimen gets kokushi on 4th turn

The constant flow of fucking bullshit I have seen tonight is insane

[Anonymous No.]

>>15883492
>calling and shifting the natural draw of tiles
Fault

[Anonymous No.]

>>15883492
You haven't seen bullshit until you get hit with a tenhou and go under 0 when you were hoping to make a comeback

[Anonymous No.]

Will we ever get another mahjong anime again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15881591
>>15881592
Thanks but I meant the web-version mainly for cell phones which is currently in beta status.
I should have posted the link. -> tenhou.net/3/beta.html?L7447

Are you able to have a chat in the linked page?
We can play it on PC with a web browser anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15885054
Saki Finals if Ritz doesn't kill herself.

[Anonymous No.]

3.0

[Anonymous No.]

Do any grills play the mahjong?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15887017
Yes, would you like to play with me? You can stroke my cute cock while you ron me with your riichi stick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15887248
>cock
Sorry, I'd rather tsumo.

[Anonymous No.]

2:4

[Anonymous No.]

>enjoy gambling
>play live poker and do well
>take the time to learn mahjong.
>really want to gamble and play mahjong in a casino.
>google search and only find "american" mahjong.

online is fun but something about playing with people around the table...

[Anonymous No.]

1:0

[Anonymous No.]

>>15887786
Where do you live?

[Anonymous No.]

So guys, how do I build a chiitoitsu without succumbing to my neverending desire of building a toitoi palace?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15888737
Why would you purposely bet on a chiitoitsu anyway, it's not a big hand for how hard it can be to build since it relies almost entirely on tsumo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15888748
I have great luck with chiitoi while toitoi is easy as fuck to defend against and almost never pans out.chiitoi is extremely hard to detect and can easily be setup as a suji trap.

Some of my most devastating hands have been chiitoitsu and its potential shouldn't be taken lightly

[Anonymous No.]

>>15888792
True but it demands a good deal of luck with your draws, you have to draw six pairs all on your own and hope you do it fast enough to still have a chance of ron
Don't get me wrong it's really useful for the reasons you mentioned but I've been poorly inclined to it because I had one time where I was waiting on chiitoitsu (2 sou wait)...and so was everyone else, it was horrible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15888798
But that's just one incident. Are you never going to declare riichi ever again because you dealt into one person's baiman a few turns after you put down your riichi stick this one time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15888936
I just don't go for chiitoitsu on purpose anymore, if I get to the point where I'm holding four pairs I might but I don't really like the yaku anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15888942
Your preference/dislike of yaku help form your identity as a player. In the end you should pursue the hands that work best with your own flow.

If we ever sit opposite sides of a table, we can put your toitoi head to head with my chiitoi. until then, keep climbing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15889046
>the flow
SOA.jpg

[Anonymous No.]

>>15888798
>and so was everyone else
Now that sounds like a fun time. Personally I prefer toitoi since I tend to go nuts with calls anyway and toitoi seems more likely to lead to bigger hands than chiitoitsu.

>>15888792
>toitoi is easy as fuck to defend against
There's no way to guess the other pairs someone is collecting though right? The only safe way would be to just deal tiles in their pond right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15889171
I was somewhere between laughing and crying, my hand was honitsu chiitoi dora 2, enough to get me to 1st place even on tsumo. It just seems so fucking stupid that literally everyone was chiitoitsu and literally everyone was waiting on the same damn tile.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15888748
>chiitoi relies on tsumo
Don't just insta riichi it when you hit tenpai, swap your wait to terminal, honor or suji trap. It's very effective at getting people to deal in. Because it's tanki you've actually got a garbage chance of tsumo.

>>15889171
You know if someone's going for toitoi then any tile where two have been discarded is usually safe, outside lower outs. (Like 4445 waiting on 5 for toitoi or 36 for something else). Since toitoi is actually hard to build yourself you can usually see when they hit tenpai as well, normally after 3 calls or two calls and their hand stops changing later in the round.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15889334
>Don't just insta riichi it when you hit tenpai, swap your wait to terminal, honor or suji trap. It's very effective at getting people to deal in. Because it's tanki you've actually got a garbage chance of tsumo.
I don't mean tsumohou, I literally mean 'tsumo', as in you literally have to draw just the right tiles to make it work and you're waiting on six specific tiles until you're at the last one and can switch to suji trap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15889343
Fair enough, and many chiitoi do get stuck at iishanten. But Toitoi is not a good yaku to be pursuing out of giving up on chiitoi. If you want to only call once to toitoi tenpai, that's like drawing sanankou for yourself, and that's not exactly easy because of how your chances of drawing subsequent tiles decrease. Making up your mind to really open your hand once you've given up on chiitoi is normally just too late, and never going for chiitoi is doing yourself a disservice because of how strong it is at getting people to deal in even with riichi.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Shin Janryumon ded?

[Anonymous No.]

2.0

[Anonymous No.]

>>15890281
3.0

[Anonymous No.]

how do I install that sega mahjong on my nexus 7?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15890356
Give Sonic a blowjob.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15890359
You, I like you. I'll ron you last.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15890386
>implying you won't get 0'd

[Anonymous No.]

AKAGI 288 out

I'm prepared to be disappointed

[Anonymous No.]

>>15890356
If you don't want to go through the hassle of setting up a jap google account and using a proxy to access the jap app store, you can download it from qooapp.

[Anonymous No.]

What would you discard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15891615
nana w

[Anonymous No.]

>>15891615
7萬

[Anonymous No.]

>>15891615
8m

[Anonymous No.]

>>15892098
Shouldn't he just bail at this point though, he's still iishanten at least while the other guy is riichi and he's also in first place.
I mean I get holding onto deal sure but like...

[Anonymous No.]

>>15892107
Putting down 8m is actually more or less the same amount of risk and puts your hand in a better form.

All 9m are down, no chance of 7-8-9m wait.
Only one 7m is left, one chance of 6-7-8 wait. If you discard 7m, there's a three tile chance of 6-7-8m wait.
There's still a miniscule chance of him waiting on 8m or 7m shanpon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15892127
>all 9m are down
Oh you're right I didn't notice the one A discarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>15892127
Or, you know, it could be a 58m ryanmen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15891615
8m. If it passes, I got another safe tile. Hopefully someone else drops a 7m to check if it's a suji trap since I don't want to find out myself. Maybe 5s if nothing safe comes up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15892198
Isn't the north guy pretty obviously building a honitsu of either pin or souzu though

[Anonymous No.]

>>15892251
Maybe? I'm not smart enough to think that shit out though, hell I'd be lucky to notice all the 9ms are out if I was actually playing. Besides, the most obviously right choice for these tends to be the wrong answer so maybe something stupid like 5s would work perfectly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15892284
Well he's been throwing out manzu one after another, most of them are tsumogiri'd, and only one tsumogiri'd wind tile and no honor tiles. Looks to me like a honitsu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15892288
How do you determine if it's tsumogirid without looking at the replay?
Well, apart from the obvious 9 and 4 man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15892487
You can't anymore. Dunno why Tenhou removed that feature

[Anonymous No.]

>>15892197
Yes, but for that he'd need to have a 67m in his hand, and since there's only one 7m left, there's one chance of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15892551
Count again.

[Anonymous No.]

>get busted out in East 2
I've had bad games before but man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15893018
You think that's bad? Try getting ronned for a fucking yakuman 3 turns into East 1. How the fuck do I even defend against that? How should I know he has a waiting closed Daisangen on turn 3?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15893096
You don't

[Anonymous No.]

>>15893018
>East 1 deal into a baiman
>East 2 deal into a haneman

I didn't play any other games that day. The idea of running into those guys again was too embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15892551
even if it was once chance, most people consider one chance to be less reliable as a defence reading than suji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15893376
I do hope he posts the results of that WWYD, I want to know if it was really a suji trap. Been 12 hours though, maybe he's waiting a full day?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15891654
>>15891816
>>15892098
>>15892198
I got lucky and didn't deal in.

>>15893480
Sorry, I went to sleep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15893513
I KNEW IT WAS 5-8
>that hand
It was a pretty garbage hand anyway to be honest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15893513
>5-8 wait
Well shit. It would have only been a 2 han hand though, maybe 4000 points or so? Glad it wasn't a haneman or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15893517
>Ura suji correct again

I swear by this shit

[Anonymous No.]

3.0

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone wanna play?

[Anonymous No.]

>have a great game in 7447
>proced to get utterly demolished in ranked lobby for two games in a row

[Anonymous No.]

>mfw double riichi iipatsu for a haneman on the dealer in last place
I bet you were hoping to turn it around HUH

[Anonymous No.]

>>15896098
L0 is a shit. Ive had close games where I skate by in 3rd or games where I end up in 4th magically, I genuinely don't remember the last time I placed 1st or 2nd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15896308
Maybe you're a shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>15896329
I would never deny that, but the games tend to be close until I do something stupid or I get fucked over somehow. You're probably right though, last game I dealt in twice by dropping a dora into a riichi. Mostly out if some sick curiosity to see if they were actually waiting on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15896369
I get where you're coming from, but these are hard-learned lessons that will help you grow as a player and understand risk in an instinctual way.

Reading materials are great to teach you concepts, but nothing drives it home harder than that RON graphic

[Anonymous No.]

>>15896211
I love how talking about mahjong ends inevitably sounding like the uchiha madara copypasta

[Anonymous No.]

>>15896681
But can anyone even TOUCH a tenhou answer no

[Anonymous No.]

>>15896684
>And I’m not talking about just a Tenhou. I'm not even talking about an ikkitsuukan chin'iisou pinfu tenhou hand, or an ikkitsuukan chin'iisou pinfu tenhou hand with one akadora and three dora with a sanmen machi. I'm talking about a junsei chuuren poutou ikkitsuukan chin'iisou with a kyuumen machi, one akadora and three dora on the first ton round as an oya, with paarenchan and double yakuman allowed.

[Anonymous No.]

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016092901gm-0089-0000-589a250a&tw=1

Some crazy ranked game which I probably didn't deserve to win because of that one mistake of dealing into the dealer. I should have trusted the wind more.

[Anonymous No.]

2.0

[Anonymous No.]

>Click Ari red fast instead of normal timer as usual because I'm a beginner
>Almost get my first yakuman

Yes I riichi'd because I didn't know what I needed. I was panicking when I saw my hand forming. Nevertheless I played like shit the rest of the game while I was in Mom get the camera mode

[Anonymous No.]

>>15897075
Yea, it took one call for him to get to tenpai, while it took you 3 calls to do it. He had the advantage.

[Anonymous No.]

2.0

[Anonymous No.]

>>15903250
again

[Anonymous No.]

>>15903803
3.0 now

[Anonymous No.]

>>15902018
should have called riichi later for that ippatsu tsumo

[Anonymous No.]

>3E simocha hits me with dama mangan
>Pushed from an early 30k lead to 4th
>4E simocha deals into my haneman
>...and kamicha's sanbaiman

Sweetest 2nd place ever

[Anonymous No.]

The month is ending. How did September treat you?

13+8+11+12 = 44戦

[Anonymous No.]

>>15904299
1-0-2-3 played surprisingly little this month. Felt nice to finally get that 1st after god knows how long though.

[Anonymous No.]

>2:0

>>15904299
>4+5+6+6
Haven't had much motivation since I've been on a losing streak lately, but it seems I'm on my way to climbing out of it now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15904299
Like shit. I had all my wins at the beginning of the month, and then the second half was nothing but losses. Ended up in the red.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15904299
9+5+8+5. Can't complain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15904299
5+8+9+4.
After I got kicked out of tokujou I lost a lot of motivation. Probably not in the right mindset.

[Anonymous No.]

Any recommended mahjong book? Assuming I can get it and read moonrunes, that is.

[Anonymous No.]

>real akagi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSLEl3urq0E

[Anonymous No.]

>>15907228
>losing to these scrubs

[Anonymous No.]

>>15906941
What's your current skill level?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15907764
2dan. I think I can understand defense a bit about when and how, but my draws often backfire.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15907928
I'm not at home right now so I don't have the exact titles, but there's a book by Fukuchi called これだけで勝てる！somethingsomething基本形８０ and one by Uzaku which IIRC is called something like 何切る３００. They're both on Amazon.jp. Both books are great for refining your tile efficiency.

Incidentally there's been talk of doing an official English translation of the first book, we're just waiting for Fukuchi's publisher to give the green light.

[Anonymous No.]

We've got a new tenhoui.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15909454
Congrats I guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>15909488
since the higher western player is like a 7dan, i don't think that's him posting

[Anonymous No.]

>>15909508
Maybe he's a nip

[Anonymous No.]

>>15909515
I don't think any japanese player is posting on /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>15909488
It's ASAPIN

[Anonymous No.]

why wasn't I awarded San Ankou here?

wtf

[Anonymous No.]

>>15912762
>ron

[Anonymous No.]

>>15912766
oh i see. well that sucks

fucking nips

[Anonymous No.]

>>15912766
To clarify, you can get San ankou if you have 3 concealed set wether you Ron or tsumo, but keep in mind that for the purposes of determining fu/han conditions, a tile ron'd is considered an open meld

[Anonymous No.]

>>15907945
In case anyone's still wondering, these are the two books I was talking about.

https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4812488249/ref=pe_492632_169829912_TE_dp_5
https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4861998948/ref=pe_492632_169829912_TE_dp_2

[Anonymous No.]

>winning by haitei for the first time
Man this feels nice.

[Anonymous No.]

So I made a casual as fuck version to play quickly with friends between uni classes that go as follows:

No scoring, that's the main difference, hand reaching tenpai quickly and then winning is the main goal
Because score isn't important, players are allowed to call chi and pon at any time, all with the purpose of building the hand faster
Draws are done until a person wins or there are no more left in the whole pile.

Its a travesty, I won't deny it, but god damn it is fun

[Anonymous No.]

Scoring a haneman when you don't even have enough points to declare riichi is pretty good.

Wasn't really a fun game since everyone kept tsumoing, but at least I clawed back to 3rd place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15915540
I believe that's called Chinese simplified rules. It's usually used as a learning tool.

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw you played like ass but won anyway

It's a real strategy... I promise!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15915540
That's Chinese simplified
Old fucks in China play it sometimes and kids use it because they can't be assed to keep the tables around

[Anonymous No.]

>>15916006
>>15917235
Oh
I did it accidentally
I actually intended to use it as a gateway to eventually introduce more complex rules. For now I've taught them about furiten

What could I teach them next?

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>>15917543
Riichi is a huge deal for them to learn
Then you should probably add the basic yaku, leave points out for now and just calculate using the yaku proper

[Anonymous No.]

It's just like that Akagi anthology chapter.

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>>15914516
Now you know how Koromo feels.

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>>15909454
>new

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>>15917752
I don't know how Koromo feels but I know how being next to Koromo feels >>15880276

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>>15917543
Simplified han points. Disregard dealer bonuses and fu: 1han=1000, 2=2000, 3=4000, 4&5=mangan

Dora is a fun and simple addition once you introduce scoring

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2.0

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now 3.0

[Anonymous No.]

Kusoge.

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>>15918499
>Have a decent run of 2nd place finishes
>Lose all gains with one 4th

[Anonymous No.]

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016100416gm-0029-0000-1b640747&tw=1&ts=8

>holding onto a single chun for that long

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>>15921663
Daisangen is a very fun yakuman

[Anonymous No.]

So far, so good.

[Anonymous No.]

>have a sanbaiman iishanten
>someone riichi's
>I'm too excited to care
>iipatsu ron for a dealer baiman
I deserved that.

[Anonymous No.]

Completely my fault, I riichi'd and chased shimocha's riichi when I shouldn't have.

In order news, I'm 1d now.

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>>15923129
>dropping a riichi when someone has two genhai pons
y tho

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>>15923137
I have the flu and I can't think straight. I might've also picked up an extra chromosome somewhere.

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>>15923154
Well I mean I hope you enjoy your dealer yakuman ron I guess

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>>15923129
>Chanta honitsu daisangen

Pretty.

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Pairon shutting down a while ago means I'm out my main client for playing with both AI and players. I tend to have it be a coin flip whether I have two or three other friends to play with but sometimes it's nice to play 4 seated instead of getting pidgeon-holed into 3...

Anyone know of another client that fills empty seats with AI?

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>>15920773
>finally get 1st after several days
>placing 3rd three times in one day cancels out your 1st

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3.0

[Anonymous No.]

Tard deserved it. D-san even riichi'd.

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>>15928692
How did he deserve it, looks like plain old bad luck to me. Like, besides the random calls.

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>>15929482
>tfw dealer kazoe yakuman

Those bots will think twice before coming round here again

[Anonymous No.]

What's up with this?

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>>15930186
Yakuman magnet I guess

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>>15930191
There was only one yakuman involved in this, which was when I lost on 10/05 (that was >>15923129)

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>>15930196
I mean I guess you're a Saki now
Either you get completely blown the fuck out or you blow everyone the fuck out

[Anonymous No.]

>>15930186
You're probably too aggressive, so you either win big or you lose big.

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>>15930220
Its a fucking tiny set of data, weird shit happens. I would offer advice on hundreds of matches, not seven.

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>Start hand
>No guest winds, discard round wind
>Next turn draw round wind, discard it
>Next turn draw round wind, discard it
>Next turn draw round wind, lose all motivation to complete my hand
>Discard something else and keep seat wind as safe tile
How do I stop this? It seems to be happening a lot to me lately whether it's with a yakuhai or if the guest wind is the dora.

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>>15932124
I guess you just roll with it
I once threw away a daisangen because I thought 'eh it's one chun and a haku it won't get much better'

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>>15932141
*one haku ankou

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3.0

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>>15907449
one of them is saki herself

[Anonymous No.]

Kan palace

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>>15934088
That hon-itsu feel

[Anonymous No.]

3:0.

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>>15934868
>forever 3.0

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>>15935242
for a second I hoped this was Akagi finally ending the washizu game

A man can dream

[Anonymous No.]

Ryanpeikou is always extremely satisfying.

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1:0

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>>15939112
>3:0

[Anonymous No.]

Couldn't win any style points this time.

[Anonymous No.]

Decent style points from this.

[Anonymous No.]

But not enough to outdo rinshan shousuushi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15939216
7447 is truly a bunch of monsters.

[Anonymous No.]

2:0.

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>>15939221
The chains of rank and R are shed and we are free to play the mahjong we were meant to play

[Anonymous No.]

How do I tell what the current and my position wind are? Practising on Gamedesign just told me in text in a dialogue box, but I'm at a loss playing anywhere else.

pls help, /jp/

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>>15943637
*bullies u

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>>15943637
On Tenhou, look in the middle. Anywhere else, who cares.

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2.0

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>>15945314
3.0

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1.1

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2.0

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2:0.

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>>15948198
3:0 now.

[Anonymous No.]

>keep getting 2nd
>mfw

[Anonymous No.]

How do you play?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15949640
By calling and losing.

[Anonymous No.]

3.0

[Anonymous No.]

>>15948653
Tell me about it
3+6+3+3

[Anonymous No.]

Man I was iishanten for ryanpeikou (22277899p66788s needed 8p/7s for tenpai) and then I got double ronned

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>>15949640
Like a retard.

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>>15950835
I play decently most of the time, but nothing is more frustrating than realizing you're making dumb as shit discard choices and forgetting important details (like the dora tile) and are powerless to correct yourself as you plummet down to 4th

[Anonymous No.]

>get 2nd, R goes up 1
>get 3rd, R goes down 4

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>>15951189
>Mindlessly put down a tile
>Half a second later, realize it was the worst possible discard to make
>Get ron'd

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>>15950168
>>15950835
post stats?

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>>15952683
Bit different from L7447, since I have a slightly higher win rate and much less games there. Apparently I haven't played a game this month.

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>>15953293
damn, you really need to call less.

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>>15953487
Just happens to be my play style, I do equally bad if my hand stays closed. Mostly this >>15952276 happens pretty often, along with dropping a dangerous tile to satisfy my curiosity if they were actually waiting on it.

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>>15949640
Like Saki? If only I could learn how to rinshan accurately.

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone explain to me why this is a completed hand? I might be just missing it, but I think there's something off from an inexperienced point of view.

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>>15954512
33344556667788manzu

See it as
33
345
456
678
678

Riichi 1 (declared ready hand)
Menzen tsumo 1 (self drawn win)
Ippatsu 1 (won on or before next draw after riichi)
Ippekoi 1 (double run)
Tanyao 1 (no honors or terminals)
Pinfu 1 (no point hand)
Akadora 1 (red dora tile)
Closed Chinitsu 6 (full flush)

13 han total, kazoe yakuman

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>>15954559

Thanks for the answer. I couldn't wrap my head around where the melds came from to get that.

[Anonymous No.]

8s for guaranteed pinfu (4 outs) or 5p for potential sanshoku (5 outs)?

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>>15954701
Discarding 8s still gives you a chance of sanshoku if you get one of the two remaining 5p. I'd go with that.

Hell, if you proceed to draw a 6p, you could discard the 9p and add tanyao and a chance of iipeikou.

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If someone double riichis and the round resets because everyone played the same wind, does the riichi stick stay in? What if the person that riichis is the last to discard before the reset?

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>>15956644
I'm pretty sure the riichi stick would remain in the first case, but I'm not entirely sure for the second. My first assumption would be that since it didn't really pass to the next turn (like how the riichi stick doesn't remain on the table if the tile you declared riichi on gets ronned), it wouldn't, but I don't know for certain.

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>>15957042
It stays in for both cases.

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>>15957071
Is it also the same for suucha riichi since it similarly aborts the round?

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>>15956644
Don't quote me on this, but I think riichi qualifies as a call, meaning suufon renda doesn't occur.

At least, that's what the wiki implies:
>Any tile calls would render this rule invalid as all four discards must be uninterrupted.
With "tile calls" linking to http://arcturus.su/wiki/Naki which contains riichi

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>>15957090
I don't think that riichi counts as a normal call that would interrupt abortive draws because I've seen a double riichi squandered by someone who declared kyuushuu kyuuhai in Seganet

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>>15957121
Yeah you're right, that can happen. I myself didn't think that riichi counted as one but the wiki seemed to implied it and closed kan works that way so I don't specifically see why riichi couldn't.

In that case I think it stays in for all because the abortion doesn't occur until the tile is discarded and passes (that is, for both suufon renda as wel as suucha riichi, the hand doesn't abort until it's been confirmed that nobody will win on the discarded tile and the next person's draw would theoretically start. Though this is kind of a meaningless distinction for suufon renda as in practice nobody could win off that tile)

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>>15957148
Also, to finish the picture:
Suukaikan: Can't declare riichi, game aborts when the 4th kan has been declared and the rinshan draw was not a winning draw (but before the discard)

Sanchahou: Stick doesn't stay on the table under the same logic as getting ronned on your riichi discard (turn isn't finished, therefore riichi is not considered "complete")

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>>15957121
>I've seen a double riichi squandered by someone who declared kyuushuu kyuuhai in Seganet

I can attest to this working on Tenhou as well. I've personally ruined someone else's double riichi like that.

[Anonymous No.]

Looking for some players - it's been a while so be gentle.

[Anonymous No.]

>Finally get Tsumo
>No Multiplier
>Get Ron
>No Multiplier
>Press "Call Tsumo"
>No Multiplier
>Please Call Tsumo!
>No Multiplier

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>>15958826
Learn your yaku

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>>15958826
Stop opening your hand you slut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15958826

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>>15958826
No worry. One you learn your shit. You might be lucky enough to pull something like this someday.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2008121721gm-00c1-0000-fcadb0d7&tw=3&ts=5

Look forward to it.

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So what happened to that Corak guy?

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>>15959062
Seems he only played two games in August and nothing since.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15959080
Did he suffer?

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>>15959085
I don't know, but "comeback Corak" isn't a name to be taken lightly.

I'll fucking slug him if he quit before I could have a rematch.

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>>15959062
Whatever happened to Gogo? I miss the laughs

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>>15959085
He's close to dropping to 4d, so yeah, probably.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15959085
His last 13 games didn't have a 1st. Yea, that's suffering. The downside to him ranking up so fast, he's not used to the pain of deranking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15959263
>tfw i'm used to demotion but the pain of losing is still strong enough to break my spirit sometimes

[Anonymous No.]

Come on anon I'm waiting in the lobby.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15959383
ok
3.0

[Anonymous No.]

WWYD?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15959412
haku

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>>15959412
What is the background from?

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>>15959417
You sure about that?

>>15959418
Tamayura.

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>forever 3:0

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>>15959421
wait, right is in Kokushi?

[Anonymous No.]

Haha I won. You guys are too noob.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15959412
Chun. Haku seems suspicious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15959412
Haku. It's essentially dead unless shimocha is somehow in tenpai for kokushi (unlikely) or having a tanki hellwait on haku (unlikely)

[Anonymous No.]

>>15959412
4s. Safe against right and I'm clearly going for at least a honitsu with that kind of hand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15959412
5p
>>15960261
Dora suji though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15960227
>tenpai for kokushi (unlikely)
Shimocha's discard pattern has the mark of kokushi. Early 5-sou plus taatsu within the other 2 suits.

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>>15961037
If it is kokushi then chun and shaa aren't safe either and neither is 9p. It's not impossible that he has kokushi tenpai but I'd say the chance that he is in kokushi tenpai this early, decides to riichi a yakuman and happens to be waiting on haku specifically is small enough to make it "unlikely".

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>>15958950
So Pon, Chii, and Kans ruin your chance of getting yaku and dora to count towards your score unless you know what you're doing. Good to know.

[Anonymous No.]

While I'm on the subject, what are the advantages and disadvantages to using melds?
When I first started going, I just used them whenever I felt it was a good wayto solidify someone's draw into my hand.

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>>15961519
Speed at the expense of hand value and stealth. Yaku are one of the early headaches as far as learning their han values. Some must be used with a closed hand, while others are still valid but worth less if own, and se are worth the same either way.

Learn about the more common ones first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15959412
It's been over 10 hours, just post the result already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15960965
>Dora suji
See, I don't think about that kind of stuff. I'm stupid so I'd probably deal right in if someone tried something like that. I rarely think about suji, though it does come up at times. I still stand by the 4s though, it's exactly the kind of move I'd make if I was actually playing and I just got a feeling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15954512
Now if only Awai were actually that good in Saki instead of a fucking jobber...

[Anonymous No.]

>>15959412
>>15961674
Turns out it wasn't kokushi at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15962831
>that 9s
I would have dealt right in to that double ron. Couldn't have even called to change drawing order or advance my hand so I would have been fucked if I was playing. Good thing they were both pretty cheap hands.

[Anonymous No.]

rare

[Anonymous No.]

>>15964903
I've seen two double-yakumans and only on nagashi mangan, so yeah, it's pretty damn rare.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15935242

WTF ?!! There's Mahjong in Blame! ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15968211
It's from 3-nen B-gumi Inpachi Sensei, a parody manga in Kinma right now. The author is just really good at mimicking other art styles.

[Anonymous No.]

2.0

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3.0

[Anonymous No.]

>things that never fucking work:

"I'm in first place by a small margin, I'll just open tanyao for a quick win"