/jp/ - Otaku Culture

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R07 Stuff thread.

Umineko, Higurashi, Higanbana.

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So yeah. A new When They Cry with skinwalkers or maybe the murderer is human. Do you think it can work?

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>>15777190
Wasn't the When The Owls Cry thing about owls or something though? Or was it some other kind of monster/legend? I can't remember but I'm sure we came up with something way back then.

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>>15777203
I don't know anything about owls, but I'd like a WTC about wendigos.

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>>15774693
TEA PARTY WHEN? WHEEEEEN?

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What is he thinking in this moment?

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>>15777302
I fucking hate gaijin.

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>>15777223
Read Rim of the Pit. It's a classic murder mystery set in a snowy mountain lodge. Lots of locked rooms and impossible crimes and it's all being blamed on a mysterious Windigo. It's a fantastic book and I recommend it to anyone who enjoyed Umineko.

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>>15777302
He looks like he's clenching his anus really hard.

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>>15777302
The way he's standing and the way his arms are, reminds me of his own art.

Deepest lore.

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>>15777320
Urgh. That means looking for the French name and going OUTSIDE, to the LIBRARY, to see if they have it. It means meeting PEOPLE.

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>The character poll for Umineko lists Kanon and Amakusa higher than Eva, Rudolf, Kinzo, Auauauauaurora, Gaap and Dlanor

really makes you think

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>>15777347
>Kumasawa's son is higher than all of the stakes, Kyrie and Gohda
what the fuck

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>>15777339
LOL

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>>15777347
PLOT TWIST: We are all fujos

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>>15777344
Or, you know, ordering it online.

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>>15777412
Last book I ordered cost me 50$. That's 3x more expensive than buying it on a library.
I may be socially awkward, but I'd rather spend a few uncomfortable moment than pay too much for something.

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TriAnthology torrent when?

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>>15777421
Never, poorfag.

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>>15777424
So rude

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>>15774693
YOU PROMISED
WHERE IS IT?

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>>15777421
Buy it.

Also I love how much this new Dai song reminds me of Higurashi
http://fast-uploader.com/file/7028198306696/

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>>15777442
crap his art really has got worse

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witch hunt pls translate fast

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>>15777447
That's Higanbana, not Tri.

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>>15777442
I don't have money. I have only a bittorrent-client

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>>15777455
what are you on about?
that's alice from tri

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>>15777442
Nice song though

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>>15777442
Put it on Vocaroo instead.

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>>15777481
Well I just posted the link Dai shared on his Twitter

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>>15777454
No. (c) Klashikari.

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>>15777487
Ha.

>>15777491
Isn't klashikari kind of a huge faggot?

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What about Hotarubi, Country girl, Iwaihime manga translations? Any news?

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>>15777481
>>15777497
Just for you

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0ZSImaahM6E

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>>15777508
Thanks m9.

That's pretty chill.

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>>15777414
Then don't read it. I was just recommending a good book to someone who's supposedly into the genre.

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>>15777467
What do you insist on spreading your lies?

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just finish Tri trial
nothing new,Alice and The Rabbit mention Beatrice after chapter 1

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>>15775390
>no ???

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>>15777713
So slow

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>>15777713
So, it's confirmed that it's a new When They Cry?


Hurry the fuck up R07 you slow piece of shit hack

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>>15777796
New WTC is Hotarubi.

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>>15776459
REEEEE UNFAIR FUCK YOU BATTLER YOU CUNT YOU'RE ALL FUCKING DEAD HOW'S THAT FOR UNFAIR

t.beato

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Wait, is the full version of Trianthology already out? If so, where can I buy it?

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>>15777903
nyaa.se

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>>15777796
not WTC
is more like kakera asobi,Alice learn something from tat 3 stories

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did the OVA of Higurashi Outbreak miss any big scenes or anything from the novel?

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>>15777915
I want to actually BUY it.

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>>15777991
You are so cool. Will you upload this shit when you actually buy it?

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>>15777903
http://www.toranoana.jp/mailorder/cit/pagekit/0000/00/06/000000068711/index.html?TW=1

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>>15778038
Torrent when?

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>>15778051
Fuck off

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>>15755345
>>15777442

Why does everything he draws look so flat these days? It's like he's taken one step forward with anatomy (sorta), and two steps back with everything else.

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>>15777203
Are the seagulls and cicadas part of the murders in Higurashi/Umineko? No.
They're used as heralds of the coming tragedy, or something to signal the tragedy is over.
So the owls would have nothing to do with the actual legends/murders.

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>>15777320
Holy shit, I'm fucking hyped, definitely going to buy it.

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>>15778055
Why don't you fuck off and tell him when the torrent comes out

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>>15777339
My first thought as well, kek.

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>>15777973
Not at all. They added in a scene.

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>Talkin with rabbit about macarons and kakera and shit
>Sick ass OP
>Bern in a spacesuit
>Now I'm a harem protag

If only I could read Japanese

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>>15777344
I don't see the problem. Go outside, nerd
>>15778133
Why don't you stab your neck repeatedly until you fall asleep and die?

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You can't say you have truly lived the full R07 experience until you have played the new パチスロ.

... I just lost 1000 yen.

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>>15778175
Don't fucking play Pachinko slots. They are the cause of much bullshit going.

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>>15777302
Who are these people?

Also, I love how adorable Ryukishi trying to be a hardcore punk is. He just go with that big smile positive of his and clinch his hand the best he can.

Must be nice go to Japan and meet with R07, he seems to be such a nice fellow.

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>>15778175
ＴＯＭＩＴＡＫＥ　ＦＬＡＳＨ

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>>15777233
>>15777440
>>15777763

I don't keep my promises, sorry.

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was beatrice trying to test battlers feelings for her, and thats why she commited the murder? been thinking about this and im not sure

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>>15778446
Don't too much. You'll get a headache.

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>>15778276
Monster

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Why is core being used in a college radio ad

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>>15778633
Where?

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>>15778669
The ad was like ten seconds long, it's already over

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Wait, so is the full version of Trianthology only available via a physical copy or is there a way to purchase a digital copy online? I'd really like to be clear on that before I try to go through the hassle of ordering a physical copy from overseas. Has anyone here actually bought the full version yet?

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>>15778786
It's only physical

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>>15778834
Fuck, I was considering buying it digitally...

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>>15778834
Well this is going to be a pain. I've bought merchandise from overseas once before (that pachinko artbook I scanned a while back), but this'll be the first time buying something this new.

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Welcome everyone. Since it seemed like there were quite a few persons here who enjoyed my last game, I will start another game now.

Setting is similar to the last game - meaning Shannon and Kanon don't exist, only Lion in my game - but we have 2 guests too. Furudo Erika and loli Ange.

Detective is Ange this time. Kinzo is already dead. There are 18 people on the island. Let's have some fun.

First Twilight - Krauss, Lion, Jessica, Eva, Hideyoshi, George

-scene: Secret Underground VIP Room aka The room with the hidden gold
-all victims were shot to death.

Second Twilight - Genji, Nanjo

-scene: Servants' room in the mansion
-Nanjo's corpse is missing
-Genji was strangled to death

Fourth Twilight - Natsuhi

-scene: Her own room
-found with her throat slit open

5th - 6th - 7th Twilight - Battler, Kyrie, Rosa

-scene: parlor
-all of them were shot to death

8th Twilight - Erika

-scene: her room in the guesthouse
-was drowned in the bathtub

9th Twilight - Kumasawa and Rudolf

-scene: rose garden
-both of their faces were smashed in

Ange, Maria and Gohda survive.....or?

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>>15778976
>no tea party
>no ???
All interest lost. I'll just go read the Rim of the Pit while playing spooky Umineko music.

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>>15778989
Hey now. I never promised a tea party or ???
I said maybe.

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>>15778976
REPEAT IT IN RED!
"NANJO IS DEAD!"

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>>15779009
Then I promise that MAYBE I won't torture you to death once I get my hands on you.

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>>15779022

/RED/ Nanjo is dead.

Of course he is dead, a witch killed him with magic! Fufufu

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>>15778976
Erika's death was not the culprit's doing, it was her own incompetence!

The rest doesn't matter, Erika is an idiot.

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https://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/game.php?game=10917

>60点
>ルチアルートはプロットもテキストもあまりに酷すぎた。
>Both the plot and the writing in Lucia's route are terrible.

Why did this Japanese reviewer on EGS say this about Lucia's route in Rewrite, the one route written by Ryuukishi07?

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>>15779086
/RED/ Erika was killed.

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>>15779100
>Japanese reviewer

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>>15779119
Oh shit, so this Dharma really is Moogy in disguise. I knew there can't be more than person hating R07.

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>>15778989
Thanks for the recommendation. The book is really good.

Give a try to The Hollow Man, same quality of content and also about closed room murders.

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>>15779134
Dude, wait. I still have to go OUTSIDE to get the Rim book.

Also, I'm not the one who recommended it.

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>>15779144
Amazon has it for less than 20 bucks.

Just buy it there, bro. No need to go outside, really.

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>>15779157
How convenient has technology become.

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>>15778976
SAY IT IN RED!
"Genji is dead!"

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>>15778976
Do you try to be logical, or not?

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>>15779100
Japanese reviewing eroge in this site are as terrible as MAL users... or even worse, actually.

Full of one liners declaring their love for dem waifus and shitty porn games.

I remember them calling a retarded nukige a kamige once, and the h-scenes weren't even that good (literally the only thing that should be good), nor was its non-existent plot.


>>15779123
He doesn't have Dies Irae on his list, so... I guess it's not him the hater, for once.

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>>15779179
Sure.

/RED/ Genji is dead.

>>15779184
What do you mean?

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>>15778976
Could Ange kill any adults?

Also, are weapon knowledge required for the killings, or we are just speaking as they all could use any methods described?

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>>15778976
Say it in red:
"All victims of the first twilight were dead upon their discovery"

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>>15779190
Well, Genji was strangled.

Assuming the cause of death wasn't altered somehow, it means the culprit can only be an adult male, as only an adult can overpower Genji who's pretty fit, and since female don't strangle people.

If want to know if you're logical about murders or if you're just going to assume anyone can murder anyone in any way.

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>>15779198
>Could Ange kill any adults?

/RED/ Ange is a detective so she can't kill anyone.

>Also, are weapon knowledge required for the killings, or we are just speaking as they all could use any methods described?
Some killings can only be done by adults obviously or people who are strong enough.

>>15779202
I refuse.

>>15779205
Logical then.

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>>15778127
Please let me know what you think once you've finished it. Probably one of my favourite locked room mysteries alongside The Mystery of The Yellow Room (the actual very first locked room mystery ever published!).

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>>15779225
REPEAT IT
"None of the victims of the first twilight were accomplices or culprits"

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>>15779134
I was the one who recommended it. Did you already read it? What did you think?
The Hollow Man is next on my list, haven't read it yet. It apparently got voted the best locked room mystery ever written so I'm pretty hyped.

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>>15779276

/RED/ None of the victims of the first twilight were accomplices or culprits.

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Okay, so I think I figured out what I need to do in order to buy a physical copy of Trianthology from Japan. It'll be another day or two before I can actually try to place an order, and then it could take a couple more weeks to ship.

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I'm probably buying the game later on, I have no money at the moment.

Can someone ask if Manga Gamer can buy the rights for us to buy it from them?
They did it with Rose Guns Days even before it was fully translated, so, there's a chance, right?

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>>15779264
>the actual very first locked room mystery ever published!
Isn't The Murders in the Rue Morgue older?

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>>15778110
Looks more like because of the shitty shading. Pretty sure someone else colored those 5 drawings of Higurashi.

With Rose Gun Days I thought we got to a new level thanks to the very good coloring, but that >>15755345 is fucking worst than ever.

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>>15779404
It's definitely more detailed though (the figurine specially)

I'm pretty sure the only issue in here was actually bad coloring.

Ryukishi did way worse with many other characters before these 2 new ones.

But he is sucking less more and more imo

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>>15779314
I mean, sure there's a chance. But even if they decide to buy it there probably won't be any announcements about it for a while. The game has only been out for a couple days after all.

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>>15779423
That's what I said, the drawing itself isn't worst than before, but the coloring and shading and both terrible, especially after Higanbana's that was interesting and hid well the anatomy problems, and RGD's that was really good.

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>>15779393
Ah, that's true. I was differentiating between short stories and novels. Rue Morgue was first, but Yellow Room was, I believe, the first locked room mystery novel.
And it'd absolutely brilliant. There's not only a locked room, there's a culprit disappearing into thin air and some great plot twists. The main character is also a very Holmes-esque, lovable eccentric man. Just talking about it makes me want to re-read it.

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>>15779423
That and the clothes

What the fuck is this

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>>15779476
Dunno but between Bern and the Stakes, there's no shortage of butts.

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>>15779482
Okay, you do realize that absolutely no sign of Bern's butt is ever shown throughout the entirety of Umineko, right? No matter how much you fantasize about her, you've got to admit that she's not exactly the best example of the ass-service Umineko has to offer.

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Ange has the best butt, manga readers will know that very well (fucking ass shots even in the tankobon, just why)

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>>15779581
In the cover even. Lewd as fuck.

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>>15774293
>Great work, are you the same anon who did the Nanjo battle scene? If so, do you take requests? I'd love to see a Gohda or Kinzo scene
Thanks, kind anon. I also wrote the Nanjo scene yes. I listened to some people's requests back then but had a hard time. A lot of people wanted a Hideyoshi scene but I just couldn't come up with anything.
I don't want to sound like a pretentious cunt, but these scenes just sort of spill out randomly now and then. Not a lot of planning goes into it. I do however really want to write a Kinzo battle scene so hopefully that happens soon.

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>>15779581
I don't know about "best", since most of the women never show any ass. But I think Ange definitely has the single most prominent butt in the series.

>>15779633
>In the cover even.
2 of them, at least.

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Which Umineko would you strike up a friendship with, knowing what we know about them?
Pick a male and a female.

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>>15779722
Male: Hideyoshi

Female: Ange

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>>15779722
Male: Nanjo
Female: Dlanor

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>>15779722
???: Furfur
???: Zepar

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>>15779722
>>15779729
I'd have to go Hideyoshi as well. Of all the males he seems the least greedy and awful. A fun uncle-figure who could give me great life advice and who would be fun to share a drink with.

As for girls, I think Jessica. I've always liked tomboys. We're talking friendship here, not relationship right? I think Jessica would make a great friend. Easy to talk to because she acts like a dude but could still give me advice on girls. She also just seems fun to be around with and has big tits.

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>>15779722
Male: I'd love to be friends with Gohda. It seems like he really needs one. He's so proud of his skills but no one really seems to respect him, or are even mean or dismissive, mistaking his pride in his work for selfishness. I'd love to get to know him over some fine tea.

Female: Kyrie seems like a good person to be friends with. I'd definitely not want her as my enemy.

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>>15779557
>implying the dick abides by "logic" and "common sense"
WITHOUT LOVE IT CANNOT BE SEEN

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>>15779829
>Kyrie seems like a good person to be friends with.
Yeah it all sounds great until she starts criticising your soup

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>>15779557
It appears a bit in some of Alchemist fanservice pics.

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>>15779810
>and has big tits.
Always a plus.

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>>15779831
True. It just seems like you're touting Bernkastel's butt as one of the best in the series without any evidence to back it up just because you want to spank her.

>>15779838
Are you talking about something in-game, or is it some bonus artwork?

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>>15779880
yeah, bonus artwork.

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>>15779885
I don't remember any Alchemist Bern merchandise other than that one where she's on her side on a couch full clothed.

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>>15779722
Hmm.....

Male: Krauss

He is a very underrated guy. I relate to him because he always has to put up a tough act to hide his own incompetence. Also, he is a funny guy and the kindest out of all the siblings.

Female: Rosa
She just needs a hug.

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>>15779286
Repeat in red "Kumasawa and Rudolf were both dead upon discovery and neither corpse was misidentified"

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>>15779837

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>>15779914

/RED/ Kumasawa and Rudolf were both dead upon discovery and neither corpse was misidentified.

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>>15779904
I agree Krauss is very underrated. It's tough being the oldest sibling yet being the most incompetent. He has to put up this front and act all cool and dismissive to his siblings, but deep down he's gullible and just dreams big without any of those dreams ever coming to fruition. Much like Rosa, he needs a hug.
Then again, being friends with Kinzo would be fucking amazing.

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>>15779904
>>15779958
I think one of biggest problems with Krauss is how he's always trying to live up to Kinzo's reputation when he's actually the least like his father out of the siblings. Just imagine what his life would have been like if he never went into business and instead became a professional boxer or something.

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If you had to get fucked by three Umineko men, who would they be?
Team Gohda/Nanjo/Kinzo here.

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>>15780021
I agree. Krauss had it rough. A talented man, just not the talents his father valued and his family legacy needed at the time. Atleast his wife fucking worships him.

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>>15780088
>Getting fucked by men

That is just gay

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>>15779880
Never said Bern's butt was great. Just that it was in need of some slapping.

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>>15780105
There something wrong with wanting to get fucked by middle-aged/old men?

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>>15780105
Alright then, let's go the other way. Which three Umineko women would you most want to fuck?

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>>15780141
That list is way too long. Right now though I'd like for Ange to sit on my face.

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>>15780141
Bernkastel (in the butt).
Bernkastel (in the butt).
Bernkastel (in the butt).

There, this is my choice.

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>>15780149
You're right. There's way more women than men. How about your top 5 then?

>>15780152
>Choosing to fuck Bern in the ass 3 times
I should have expected that.

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>>15780164
Well, you said the Umineko girls.

I actually don't like any of them. I liked Bernkastel at first until the story revealed she was a huge bitch.
Now, except Beatrice (who isn't really a girl), I don't really care about any of them.

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>>15780164
I fap the most to Ange, Beatrice, Chiester 410, Eva, and Rosa

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>>15780141
This is why I said men in my original post. You know you're just gonna get Erika/Bernkastel/Dlanor answers with women. I wanted to see what answers I'd get if people had to choose from the men.

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>>15780167
Seriously? There's over 30 women in this series spanning a wide variety of body and character types, and not one of them does it for you?

>>15780184
Nice choices. In no particular order, I'd probably go with Ange, Jessica, Lambda, Dlanor, and Maria. That way There's a good variety.

>>15780186
Fine, then I'd pick Shannon, Kanon, and Lion

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>>15780222
I grew too fond of Mion's semi-tsundere attitude.
Rena is too boring (and too insane), Rika is a loli, Satoko is too much of a crybaby, and all the Umineko women are flawed, especially Rosa and Eva.

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So what is Umineko's Dear You? As in the main theme that gets repeated in different versions time and time again?
I think it's Hope, is it Hope?

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>>15779837
>>15779938
Oh, you

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>>15780141
Erika > Dlanor > Lucifer

I'd trade Lucifer for Mion if that was allowed

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>>15780262
>Erika
>good

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>>15780262
Dlanor's difficult to sexualize. I just want to hug her.

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>>15780266
You don't have to sexualize them.

I like Mion but I wouldn't fuck her.

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>>15780230
If you liked Mion that much, you could always pick Jessica. They might not be identical, but there's definitely some strong similarities between them.

And everyone in Umineko is flawed, that's kind of a recurring theme throughout the story. That doesn't make them unattractive. If anything they seem more human.

>>15780245
Hope would be your best bet, but with so many tracks it's hard to narrow it down.

>>15780262
Sure, that's fine.

>>15780266
Dlanor is good for vanilla.

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>>15780268
The question was which one you want to fuck. How do you not sexualize that?

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T r i A n t h o l o g y

torrent when?

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>>15780272
I don't know, I still fear the day Jessica and Georges will learn about Beatrice's secret.
Hearts will be broken.

>>15780278
F u c k o f f .

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>>15780278
Have you checked nyaa yet my friend?

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>>15780285
Yep. Absolutely nothing.

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>>15780245
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt5_WKTZDZ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcWSfzYTiZI

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>>15780281
I've heard that Ryukishi confirmed George would be alright with it which really just makes it even more sad that she never confided in him.

>>15780278
Look, even If I were to make a torrent once I get my copy, it's still going to take a couple weeks for that copy to even arrive here in the first place. The same situation is likely true for anyone who's planning on making a torrent of it. Just be patient.

>>15780285
Yes, and it's not there.

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>>15780316
So fucking nice in contrast to http://fast-uploader.com/file/7028198306696/ -shit

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>>15780322
Ok, thank you.

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>>15780322
Mmm... So Georges would be alright with a crippled male as his waifu?
That's getting real weird here.

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What exactly to Teppei do to Satoko that made her break? Rena flips her shit when she tells her, so it's gotta be worse than his usual abuse.

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>>15780346
It's obvious all of the cousins are hungry for love - just like Yasu, that is why he/she makes a good pair with every one of them.

Though the more disgusting fact is that Yasu is dating with his/her own niece and nephews.

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>>15780349
He fugged her obviously.

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>>15780266
I want to adopt Dlanor.

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>>15780349
Cigarette burns, bruising, raping, name it. Teppei was a fucking monster.

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>>15780346

I guess it either means that George really does love Shannon, or that he's so desperate he'd fuck a cuntboy.

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>>15780349
He beats the crap out of her and throws away Satoshi's stuff.

Through given Ryukishi's fascination for grimdark stuff, I wouldn't be surprised if he fucked her.

>>15780352
That's sad. The cousins are a little better than the Ushiromiya adults, but they're still pathetic in their own ways.

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>>15780352
Not like she has a lot of contact with anybody else.

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>>15780364
Though his brother was way worse.

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>>15780330
You're welcome. Hopefully I'll be able to place an order tomorrow. Though I must say I don't really like the idea of making one of my favorite author's the newest works available for free immediately after it's release on the market. The last thing I want to do is hurt the sales.

>>15780346
George was straight up willing to murder his entire family if that was what it took to be with Shannon; it's pretty clear that he's gotten way too into ther to pull back.

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>>15780359
>>15780364
>>15780366

The only reason I've never really considered rape before is because of this line from Minagoroshi.

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>>15780316
I like it, but I'm not sure it's quite the Dear You of Umineko. I also think Hope is very prominent, but there's too few versions of it to give it the mass that Dear You had.
There's like fucking 20 Dear You versions out there. Still, I think the fact that Yasu has a vocal Hope version sort of cements it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtP96_AxZ2E

Then again, what that other anon said, the OST is just so fucking vast, it's hard to know.

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>>15780352
It's worth mentioning that Yasu didn't know that they were related to George until they were already in a relationship.

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>>15780346
George was happy with Shannon, no matter what they were. People give Joji a lot of shit but at least he's pretty profound and serious about loving who he loves.

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>>15780366
>but they're still pathetic in their own ways

Jessica couldn't get a boyfriend to save her life, she just can't act like a girl.

George was a jealous and bitter guy because he couldn't get a girlfriend.

Battler - who is supposed to be the Casanova of the cousins - couldn't find any girl either for some reason, probably because he was too much of a kid.

Maria is an autistic kid. Nobody likes her.

Yeah, they are all pretty pathetic.

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>>15780376
Jesus what the fuck.
That guy is a waste and deserves to die.

[Anonymous No.]

was Battler a chubby chaser?

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>>15780396
Hello K1.

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>>15780401
Well he certainly chased after a certain fatty area.

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>>15780414
Krauss is a lucky dude.

But if I think about it, all of the guys are lucky. The Oba-sans put the younger girls in Umineko to shame. They all look like they are in their twenties.

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>>15780394

Jessica couldn't get a boyfriend because she lived on an isolated island. And she was really popular at school.

George could have easily gone along with the marriage interview if all he wanted was a wife.

Despite the way he acts, Battler probably didn't want to sleep around after seeing how his father turned out.

Maria was... okay yeah, she was pretty stupid. But a lot of her autism could probably be chalked up to Rosa's parenting.

you're points are still true though

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>>15780453
Living on an isolated island doesn't automatically mean that is the reason she couldn't get a bf. Just like she practiced with her band, she could have spent time socializing with boys. Case is, Jessica was too much of an autist.

George wanted to prove his manliness by getting a gf himself. Case is, his best option was his crippled shemale uncle. Therefore, it is safe to assume George was an autist too.

Battler acts like a really obnoxious teenager, he can't act mature at all unless someone gets killed. Case is, he is too much of an autist.

Maria thinks she is a witch and is on the mental level of a 3 years old. She is autist.

I think it's safe to assume autism flows in the veins of all the Ushiromiya kids.

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>>15780394
>Battler - who is supposed to be the Casanova of the cousins - couldn't find any girl either for some reason.
It's cause he's actually gay. It's why Battler/Beatrice beats George/Shannon and Jessica/Kanon. Jessica wants a boyfriend, George wants a wife, but Battler just wants some hot fuckboy ass. Ikuko is probably a crossdresser, which is why the two of them could live together in an apparent sexual relationship for several decades without marrying or producing kids, also explains what the "eccentricities" that resulted in Ikuko being disowned and banished to a house in the country were.

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>>15780489

>I think it's safe to assume autism flows in the veins of all the WTC characters.

Fixed.

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>>15780489
Is autism a euphamism for magic now?

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>>15780495
Nanjo wasn't an autist, if I remember right.

>>15780496
Autism = Love. Without love it cannot be seen = Without autism it can't be seen.

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>>15780491

Has R07 even written any gay dudes into his stories yet? It'd probably be more controversial than traps and yuri combined.

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>>15780437
Some artists tried to make the aunts look a bit older, but even then they still looked to be in their 30's

>>15780489
I won't deny that they're a pretty messed up bunch, but you're also going out of your way make them sound bad.

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>>15780396

You still won't be able to protect her smile, K1.

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>>15780491
That makes sense. Now I understand why Battler is trying so hard to be seen as a pervert - because he is gay actually.

It would be really hot to see a scene where Battler and Kanon make out and then Jessica suddenly sees them.

>>15780512
Keiichi, Battler, etc. Literal fuckboys.

>>15780521
>but you're also going out of your way make them sound bad
Nah, you just see them differently because you have love for them.

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>>15779946
/BLUE/ Gohda did not present an Alabi for any of the murders and thus it can be deduced he killed everyone

Repeat this in red Kumasawa and Rudolf were both murdered

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>>15780512
Does bisexual dudes count? Cause Lion still seems pretty into both sexes even without having Yasu's gender issues.

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>>15780541
I miss the days when you could make actual red and blue text on 4chan.

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>>15780536
It would also provide an even better explanation for how Battler goes from "I'll hate you forever" to "let's get married" right after finding out Beatrice is actually a man.

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>>15780541
/RED/ Kumasawa and Rudolf were both murdered.

/RED/ Gohda was with the detective - Ange - during the time Kumasawa and Rudolf were killed. Therefore he has an alibi.

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>>15780555
Dameda! Zen Zen Dameda!

t. Battler while fucking Yasu's tight virgin asshole

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>>15780557
>/RED/ Gohda was with the detective - Ange - during the time Kumasawa and Rudolf were killed. Therefore he has an alibi.

Where was Ange at that time?

And where was Maria then?

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>>15779032
/BLUE/ Nanjo was still alive at the time of the second twilight.
/BLUE/ Nanjo's cause of death was not murder.

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>>15778976
Define murder.
Are there as many Humans on the island as people?

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>>15781067
/GOLD/ Erika never made it to the island.

[Anonymous No.]

I'll ask you again, have you seen this man anywhere?

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>>15778976
>First Twilight - Krauss, Lion, Jessica, Eva, Hideyoshi, George

Somebody's missing it looks like

>Natsuhi only survivor of Krauss team/Eva team gunfight
>Nanjo accomplice, kills Genji, escapes
>Without Nanjo she can fake her own death
>Battler won't let loli ange see the corpse so no detective powers

WHERES THE HEART

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>>15778976
/blue/ Did Natsuhi killed herself?
/blue/ Did anyone killed themselves?
/blue/ Is Nanjo dead?

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>>15778976
/BLUE/ While Erika is present she is THE ranking Detective. Ange is free to act as the culprit until the 8th Twilight.

[Anonymous No.]

Okay, so I just ordered a copy of Trianthology from Japan. Hopefully I did everything right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15782457
Will you upload a torrent when it comes?

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>>15782469
No.

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>>15782471
Thank you!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15782469
No promises.

[Anonymous No.]

Six years ago I was in college and I still am now. Just kill me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15782538
Lets get together and make a popular VN franchise.

[Anonymous No.]

Why would you EOPs buy a game you can't read?

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>>15782582
1. It supports the author
2. I know enough to struggle through with a machine translator.
3. I don't plan to stay an EOP
4. If I do decide to make a torrent I can make the game available for more people.
5. Just for the sake of collecting

[Anonymous No.]

So why don't Battler and Shanon just fuck already?
It would literally solve everything.

>but Geor..
Who seriously cares about that guy?

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>>15782597
>2. I know enough to struggle through with a machine translator.
Disgusting. You're a shit-eater reading terrible machine translations.
>3. I don't plan to stay an EOP
You will with this attutude.

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>>15782716
>Disgusting. You're a shit-eater reading terrible machine translations.

You've got to start somewhere. At least I'm not just sitting around hoping that someone will eventually translate it.

>You will with this attitude.

What attitude? I'm actively trying to learn the language, but it's going to take at least another half year before I reach the point where I can start trying to read vn's without a translator.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it true that there's a When The Owls Cry being worked on?
I'm kind of a sucker for haunted houses stories and cabins in the woods, so I'm hyped if this is true.

>>15778160
>Bern in a spacesuit
Anything to protect her cute little butt from my hate, huh?

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>>15782818
MT-reading shit-eater attitude.

Even if you "learn" Japanese, you'll be forever a cripple bound to crutches like MT and texthooking.

[Anonymous No.]

Moogy hates Umineko

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>>15783109
Who the fuck is moogy and why should I care?

[Anonymous No.]

Just finished reading the first four episodes on my PSP. No words but emotions. Ryu didn't lie saying that it's a troublesome read even for natives, but the plot, twists... basically, everything outnumbers the difficulty of his prose.

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>>15783263
>No words but emotions
Wow, it's that shitty?

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>>15783109
Stop DICK sucking Moogy ya whore mouth

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>>15783109
I care only about people who really contribute to the community like Ixrec.

>>15783113

[Anonymous No.]

beato

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>>15778633
IT HAPPENED AGAIN JUST NOW

[Anonymous No.]

can someone explain the part in episode 2 where shannon breaks the mirror.. how will reviving beatrice make her able to find love/ escape her fate?

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>>15783614
no

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>>15783614
Yeah, if you're only at episode 2, you probably don't want people to explain things for you yet. Just keep reading and keep trying to figure it out yourself.

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>>15783614
The mirror was a magical item that held Beatrice's powers back.

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>>15783695
He's finished everything. He just keeps finding random questions to ask here for whatever reason.

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>>15783614

It's pretty much
>>15783765

However, to elaborate on that, remember that Beatrice has a weakness for mirrors, so destroying the mirror would help revive some of Beatrice's power.

From a non-magic perspective, Yasu was testing the explosives on the shrine. If the explosives worked properly, then everything was ready in order to plan the roulette, hence reviving 'Beatrice'.

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>>15783020
>Is it true that there's a When The Owls Cry being worked on?
I was the anon who came up with the idea all those threads back and I've been wanting to write it ever since. It's kinda hard though, I don't think it works as a short story, and I don't think I'm quite at the level of writing an entire novel yet.

>I'm kind of a sucker for haunted houses stories and cabins in the woods
So am I, they're great settings. I also really enjoy the threat of some unknown entity or supernatural goings-on. Of course, in the end, it has to be a human who's responsible, but the suspense is the best part.

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>>15783849
I dunno, implying it's supernatural and then saying it's a human who did everything reminds me of Scooby Doo where the explanation is always silly.

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>>15783079
I'm only using machine translations for vns because of the size. I also try doing small-scale translations myself on a regular basis.

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>>15783867
Scooby Doo is a children's television series and does this trope no justice. Once again I would recommend anyone to read Rim of the Pit which handles the trope brilliantly.

But in the end, to each his own. I prefer the culprit to be a human using tricks and cleverness in order to make people think the killings are the work of something supernatural. I don't like the culprit to actually have supernatural abilities, or if the culprit is some kind of monster or even animal (I'm looking at you Rue Morgue).

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>>15783892
I have trouble with stories where the culprit is human because I can never help but think of all the occasions where everything could've went to shit.

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>>15783867
Isn't that the whole point of When They Cry though?

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>>15783906
Depends. In The Cicadas story, there's definitely supernatural mumbo jumbo with the Hinamizawa Syndrom and Hanyuu.

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>>15783918
There was still far less supernatural stuff than was implied

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>>15783933
Yeah.

A bit of a shame, I really loved the secret ritual thing. It reminded me of Noroi.

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>>15783918
>>15783933
True, but in the end there was a human culprit behind most of the main characters' misfortunes. That's what you need in a good mystery, I believe. A human culprit to rally against, not some unseen entity or supernatural powers alone. I think Higurashi has the perfect mix of supernatural and, well, natural.

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>>15783959
There's a reason I expected a lot from Umineko.

Onikakushi was the first VN I ever read, and even now, Keiichi's descent into paranoia is still one of the best thing I've read.
And that ending, dammit.

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>>15783968
The general feeling of suspense and paranoia in Higurashi is fantastic. If I ever write a book and manage to come even close to pulling off that feeling, I will be insanely proud of myself.

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>>15783999
From my experience as an amateur writer, I can tell you that if you're satisfied with what you wrote, it's probably shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784003
The same could probably be said of any field of creative arts.

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>>15784003
Sadly, I know that feeling all too well myself.
I was more or less sketching a (very) hypothetical situation there where I had published a book and gotten feedback from readers. If I can manage to make readers feel like I felt whilst reading Higurashi I would be insanely proud of myself.
Chances are though, that is never happening. But I try not to let that discourage me.

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>>15784020
The only book I ever read that managed to make me feel for the character was a weird mutant story about a cat named Claudandus. The doctor's descent into insanity was pretty good, as his team leaves him and he starts ranting about his rival stealing his ideas more and more.

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>>15783999
>>15784020
>>15784039
While on the subject, are there any other books/works you people would recommend that are a bit like Higurashi/Umineko? Doesn't have to be a murder mystery, I'm talking purely about the suspense/paranoia. I've taken note of Rim of the Pit and The Hollow Man from earlier in the thread but if I'm curious if there are other works you could recommend.

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>>15784079
Except the classical Mystery in the Yellow Room and a few Agatha Christie, I don't know.
Maybe that book with Claudandus, but only because the insane doctor's diary was pretty well-written in my opinion, the rest is a bit silly.

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>>15784092
It's been a while since I've read Yellow Room but I'd hardly call it suspenseful in the way Higurashi is. Still a terrific book and a classic mystery though.
I've been Googling around about this Claudandus and it sounds really interesting. I'd never heard of it before.

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>>15784079
Can't help you there but this just reminds me of Stupefaction from the Umineko OST.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X76lu7TCvOg

This piece of music is so incredibly creepy and suspenseful to me. Just try listening to this while looking out of your window at night. Better yet, listen to it on your phone while walking alone through the woods at night. You would go fucking insane.

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>>15784099
It's been years since I read it, but it's basically a murder mystery novel with cats.

The thing that sold it was when one of the cats found some scientist's diary, detailling the guy's research to create some kind of biological glue to close his wounds instantly, and his descent into madness.
I found it pretty cool.

>>15784107
Spoopy.
9/10 music to write with.

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>>15784107
I love stupefaction, I agree it's incredibly creepy somehow. I'm pretty sure Umineko had more scary/creepy music but I've forgotten the names. Can somebody help me out here?
I'm sure because I remember you could toggle scary music off when listening to the music box in the VNs.

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>>15784119
I'll have to give it a read. I've been entertaining the idea of having a talking cat in a story but it seems impossible to pull that off without it being silly or childish.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784170
Well, it deals with murders, eugenism, taking over the world, mutants, paranoia, and torture.

>>15784163
Dead Angle, Minute Darkness...

[Anonymous No.]

I like it when we sit down and talk about mysteries and exchange recommendations. It doesn't happen often, but I love it when it does. It seems to scare off the Erikaposters as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784163
And rensa_kairo_mu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784163
And rinshi_mu too.

>>15784194
Okay, I have a mystery.
Bern being a bitch despite being a cat. Riddle me that.

[Anonymous No.]

To the anon who was going to make a vid of the Kumasawa fight, when do you think it'll be done? I loved your Nanjo vid and can't wait to see this one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784194
Me too, anon. It's also nice to see there are some aspiring writers amongst us. I think we're a very creative general when we want to be.

[Anonymous No.]

The funny part is that we have the ability to make our own gameboard.
Through I don't see the point is there's no Bern getting her ass whacked with a hairbrush.

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>>15784242
I feel kinda sorry for the anon who made the gameboard as everyone seems to have ignored it halfway through. I enjoyed his first gameboard though.

I might write one myself over the weekend, with proper character motivations and scenarios written out with some kind of proof that I wrote it before starting the game here.

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>>15784253
Well, we all tried to play, but he probably went to sleep already.

Serves him right for promising Bern spanking in the Tea Party and then deciding he's not having one anyway.
I'm sure Lambdadelta dragged him to hell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784268
He never promised anything. He only said he might do it. It wasn't even meant to be erotic to begin with, so it's no surprise that he decided not to shoehorn your fetish scene in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784268
Broken promises did dull the experience in the end. I'll be more active and agree to keep my promises when I start my gameboard. I'll try and set up something nice.

What is the main timezone Seacats threads are active? Do we have more American or European posters here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784277
>It wasn't even meant to be erotic
Says who? For all we know, the Tea Party could've been a huge orgy between the cousins and the stakes and he decided not to because murders were actually funnier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784194
>It seems to scare off the Erikaposters as well.
Never mention when a thread is going well. It always attracts the nasties. Bern spanking in this case rather than Erika posters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784288
I'm definitely European, but it may be easier to just start a strawpoll.

>>15784294
Nice try, but I wasn't attracted. I've been there the entire time, recommending cats stories and stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784197
>>15784201
>rinshi_mu
>rensa_kairo_mu
Am I going mad? What is this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784299
The songs' names in the BGM folder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784296
I can't believe the person who recommended me a good book only minutes ago is the same person who wants to spank Bernkastel all the time. Never trust the internet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784305
Yes. This is the expression I want to see on your face. Surprise, and fear. And ruthless efficiency.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784296
>it may be easier to just start a strawpoll
Good call.

http://www.strawpoll.me/11139342
http://www.strawpoll.me/11139342
http://www.strawpoll.me/11139342

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784314
Europe here, but I have an unusual sleep scheduel

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784312
Don't tell me you're also the anon who thinks up weird fetish stories like Natsuhi being spat on by the family whilst Krauss states in red that nobody ever loved her or cared for her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784319
No. My only fetish is spanking, and it's centered at 90% on Bernkastel, 9% on the stakes, and 1% on Ange.
Everything about fucking, spitting or torturing isn't my thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784294
At least it's better than Rikanon and Juliette

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone have a CG of Satoko's/Rika's house for comparison? I took this photo a couple of weeks ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784337
Lucky bastard.
So, do they get a lot of visitors?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784329
Barely

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784329
It's just as bad and deserves the same amount of reports/ignoring

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784328
Good. I was starting to descend into paranoia myself there, thinking there were actually only 3 or 4 people in these threads, sneakily switching from aspiring writers with good recommendations to smut writers and Erika posters.
The poll atleast seems to suggest there's atleast 7 people here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784337
Thanks for reminding me that I have to visit Hinamizawa before I die.
Also, where were the pictures of the main house/gardens from Umineko taken again? I have to visit them as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784351
Well, I post about Bern spanking, about books recommendations, about why being satisfied with what you wrote is a sign you're shit, about Natsuhi probably killing herself after Krauss and Jessica's death, about Teppei being a massive creep and deserving to die, and about Scooby Doo being incredibly frustrating.
And I still don't know if Natsuhi killed herself or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784344
Yeah I also found that 'photo' CG from el goog, but was there a drawn one?

I heard someone else mention Higurashi when we were at the shrine, some native japsie. There were quite a lot of people to see the village for other reasons, it's also a world UNESCO heritage site.

No luck was involved, just money...

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784314
Really? There's an "other" here? Let me guess, Britain?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784364
Oh jesus this is hilarious.

If only I could speak Japanese, I would totally visit that place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784363
That's funny, seems we've been talking to each other a lot in this thread. Do you still believe a supernatural phenomenon is better than a human culprit (or a mix of both) in a mystery? I understand your Scooby Doo point, but as I said that's a children's show and hardly a fair comparison to adult murder mystery.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784364
Are you sure they weren't just talking about cicadas?

[Anonymous No.]

Two more photos. Here's the entire shrine, the wishes in the picture >>15784364 were a bit forward from where this photo was taken.

Finally the entire Shirakawa-go village (which Hinamizawa is based on) is here: >>15764010

It was nice to visit the village, but the bus fare to there and back from Takayaka was quite steep, ~4500 yen which is like $50.

>>15784393
I'm not sure, but one of them mentioned Higurashi right when they arrived at the shrine in this post. There was some younger fellow explaining the importance of the shrine to him for two older folk, maybe his parents.

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>>15784390
I prefer supernatural phenomenon because while they have to obey the murder laws (in other words : have a motive, and have a culprit), they also allow the murders to be pinned on something that isn't human.

This is why I really like curses, they're supernatural, which means there's no culprit, and yet they obey their own rules, so they can be understood and stopped.
With humans, since there's always a culprit, it often means there's a tragedy of event that motivated that person to resort to murder. Except if you go with the sadly popular trope of "the murderer was insane lol", but that one is damn cheap, as it removes all need to create a motive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784368
yep, where are you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784403
I can hear the cicadas from here and I already feel hot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784412
Netherlands. I put the "other" option there on the off chance there were some people posting from Asia/Australia. I just found it funny. Typical of a British person to see themselves as something not part of Europe. But I don't want to get all /pol/ here. The poll is just there to see the timezones we post in, but I'll count yours as Europe then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784194
>It seems to scare off the Erikaposters as well.
What's wrong with posting Erika, she is best girl and has the best feet.

[Anonymous No.]

But Erika is a perv and worst girl.
If it wasn't for the fact that Battler and her are enemies, she'd be jumping at his dick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784408
>I prefer supernatural phenomenon because while they have to obey the murder laws (in other words : have a motive, and have a culprit), they also allow the murders to be pinned on something that isn't human.
I think I get you. I like it when the murders are being pinned on something that isn't human, in other words a ghost, a witch, or a windigo. But I want the actual culprit and mastermind behind it to be human. And most of all, I want to, as a reader, slowly start to feel that the culprit simply cannot be human because of all the supernatural things going on. It is that moment that I love about murder mysteries like that. When you're starting to doubt it yourself, and you start to believe there actually might be a monster or ghost or whatever. Only for everything to get a proper and satisfying explanation at the end. And most importantly, I want the culprit to have a damned good reason for the things they've done. Like you said "murderer is insane" doesn't cut it.
My perfect mystery has me doubting everything until the very end, where it all makes sense and we see that one of the characters we've been with for the entirety of the book was not who we thought they were but actually a cunning mastermind with a good reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784440
I like Erika, but how did you argue she has best feet and then post a pic where she has fucking Donald Duck feet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784416
It was particularly hot when we visited Shirakawa-go. Around 38C in the shade, so it felt like 50C under the sunshine. Cicadas were aplenty in the trees when we walked up to the viewing platform of the village, and they were loud as hell.

But I only found the authentic 'Higurashi' cicada later from some walking trail in Kyoto.
https://a.pomf.cat/tgwpfc.webm

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784451
>But Erika is a perv and worst girl.
>Implying perversion is a negative trait.
>Not wanting a genius detective to jump on your dick
Are you gay anon

>>15784456
They just look like that because they are encased by her lovely tights.

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>>15784453
I dunno, I prefer when the culprit isn't human. When a sane human resort to murder, that's because he found himself cornered, and I always feel sad for the culprit. A good example of that is Columbo : the murderers in that show are often people that are a bit shady but wouldn't kill people if they weren't cornered and forced to do it.
Murders are tragedies, and I don't read books to feel depressed, so I prefer when the culprit is supernatura, because I don't feel obliged to feel bad for the murderer.

Through I have a question for you : what about supernatural murders that have a human culprit? What do you think of these? Like curses that are casted on the victims, or monsters that are controlled?

>>15784475
Shit I love it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784475
>https://a.pomf.cat/tgwpfc.webm
For some reason, I half-expected Slenderman to pop up.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Moogy-denka right?

https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/4pov9s/list_23_vns_you_have_decided_against_reading_and/d4ndixi

>I don't know how the western fanbase continues to put up with Ryuukishi, and I honestly feel that it's damaging to the community as a whole to continue to obsess this much over a single work so long after the fact. The amount of Umineko discussion is one of the reasons people who read untranslated eroge feel so disconnected from the broader western fanbase, and it's not hard to see how stifling this level of obsession can be if you take a step back. This applies to other games as well (Fate and Majikoi, for example) and I suppose to a degree it comes part and parcel with the reality that you guys are exposed to such a tiny slice of what's out there, but when the game in question is something as obviously and majorly flawed as Umineko, I can't help but feel a sense of unease, I guess you could say.

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>Honestly, I shouldn't have even posted in here. The way I approach the medium as a whole and what I look for out of eroge/VNs are simply too far removed from the western fanbase's to have any sort of meaningful discourse with people using translations, and I accept that. But at the same time, as someone who helped build the community as it is today, I guess I'm unable to fully suppress my irritation at the way it hasn't developed into the ideal I imagined for it over the years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784516
Holy shit, that guy is so full of his own importance it's pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784516
>Moogy
Who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784533
Some little faggot who thinks it's hot shit and deludes itself into believing it helped build the western VN community. I learned about it from this thread two days ago despite being into VNs for years, so it's only important in its own head.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784485
>Murders are tragedies, and I don't read books to feel depressed, so I prefer when the culprit is supernatura, because I don't feel obliged to feel bad for the murderer.
I see your point, but the perfect culprit has a good reasons for his killings. They don't always have to be cornered and get your compassion that way. I for one love revenge killing. Something happened in the past that the culprit was affected by, they round up the old gang for a dinner party or whatever and one by one the culprit kills them out of revenge. There is a plethora of reasons the culprit might have. But I get a kick out of culprits who kill out of revenge. You sort of feel sorry for them but you cannot forgive them either.

>what about supernatural murders that have a human culprit? What do you think of these? Like curses that are casted on the victims, or monsters that are controlled?
You're mixing fantasy with murder mystery there, but I'm fine with that. As long as there are specific rules to the methods and they are followed I have no problem with a human culprit using supernatural powers to dispose of his victims, in fact I quite like the trope. The crucial point is that they follow rules, like I said. Mixing fantasy with murder is a tough job but pays off extremely well when done right.
For example, if a murderer controls creatures to do his bidding, or is able to cast curses, or has the ability to disappear from a locked room even, this must be established in the lore well before these things happen. The laws of the book have to be firm on what can and cannot happen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784475
>https://a.pomf.cat/tgwpfc.webm
God that's amazing. I would never have guessed as a kid that a noise a certain insect in Japan makes would give me this feeling of warmth later in life.
Ryu-chan was very clever in his choice of animals for WTC. Both cicadas and seagulls can sound both relaxing and somehow unnerving at the same time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784574
I see your point.
You just don't like when the book cheats. I remember I hated the Hercule Poirot TV Show because it did exactly that : it kept hints for itself and only showed them at the conclusion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15780761

/RED/ Ange, Maria and Gohda were together in the guesthouse when Kumasawa and Rudolf were killed.

>>15781067
/RED/ Nanjo was killed before Genji.

>>15781171
/RED/ Murder occurs when someone ends the life of another person.

/RED/ There are 18 people on the island. In other words, 18 persons.

>>15781332
/GOLD/ Erika made it to the island and she was killed by the culprit.

>>15781920
/RED/ Nanjo didn't kill anyone.

/RED/ Natsuhi was killed, her death was confirmed by the detective aka Ange.

>>15782409
/RED/ Natsuhi was killed by another person.

/RED/ Nobody committed suicide.

/RED/ Nanjo is dead.

>>15782426
/RED/ In this game Ange is the detective from start to finish.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784319
That was me. I am the same guy who made the the game in the previous thread and the one who made the game in this thread. Natsuhi is a huge whore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784585
I am a firm believer that a good mystery, whether supernatural or not, has to give the reader the opportunity to solve the crime just before the Detective does. Knox knew what he was talking about, I agree completely with him. So firm rules are necessary if you want to pull off a supernatural crime.

Another trope I dislike is the one Knox described as "no Chinaman must feature in the story". There were a lot of these back in the day and I just feel cheated when the culprit turns out to be an animal (Rue Morgue) or a fucking foreign jungle man with a blowpipe (Sign of Four). This is not fair on the reader in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784583
Oh, but Japaneses are very good at using sounds. Not music, sounds.

It's been years since I watched Ring, and the sounds played when the tape is watched always scare the shit out of me. These weird, high-pitched strings noises.
And if you check Metal Gear Solid 4, there's a similar effect with the big Gekkos : they sound like cicadas when they're calm, and moo like cows when they're excited. Kojima explained later it was psychological : to suggest the quiet and peaceful countryside, and deceive the inexperienced soldiers into releasing their attention.

>>15784588
Mmm... Was an implement used to kill Kumasawa and Rudolf?
Was Natsuhi's room locked? How many keys can open Natsuhi's room?
Will Bern finally get spanked in the Tea Party?

>>15784615
>no chinaman must feature in the story
Using weapons that the detective doesn't know?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784605
I like this. It's like I'm getting to know the regulars in a pub I frequent but never really talked to in person before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784624

/RED/ Kumasawa and Rudolf were killed by a culprit wielding a hammer.

/RED/ Natsuhi's room wasn't locked.

/RED/ If you solve the game, Bern will certainly get spanked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784194
I take offense to that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784652
ALL RIGHT LET'S SOLVE THAT GAME, PEOPLE!

Where was the hammer located before it was used by the murderer? Was it in a locked room? What key allowed access to this room?
Could a child use a hammer to kill Rudolf and Kumasawa?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784669

/RED/ The hammer was in the shed. However, the shed wasn't locked.

/RED/ A child couldn't kill Rudolf and Kumasawa with a hammer.

[Anonymous No.]

Reposting it to not have to scroll again.
"Detective is Ange this time. Kinzo is already dead. There are 18 people on the island. Let's have some fun.

First Twilight - Krauss, Lion, Jessica, Eva, Hideyoshi, George

-scene: Secret Underground VIP Room aka The room with the hidden gold
-all victims were shot to death.

Second Twilight - Genji, Nanjo

-scene: Servants' room in the mansion
-Nanjo's corpse is missing
-Genji was strangled to death

Fourth Twilight - Natsuhi

-scene: Her own room
-found with her throat slit open

5th - 6th - 7th Twilight - Battler, Kyrie, Rosa

-scene: parlor
-all of them were shot to death

8th Twilight - Erika

-scene: her room in the guesthouse
-was drowned in the bathtub

9th Twilight - Kumasawa and Rudolf

-scene: rose garden
-both of their faces were smashed in

Ange, Maria and Gohda survive.....or?"

>>15784694
So Maria isn't the killer.

Were all the dead confirmed? Could bodies be switched or reused?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784701

/RED/ Ange didn't confirm the death of any of the first twilight victims. However, Nanjo examined Eva, George and Hideyoshi and said they were dead.

/RED/ Genji, Natsuhi, Erika and Kumasawa were confirmed to be dead by the detective - Ange.

/RED/ No bodies were switched or reused.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784615
Wouldn't Knox's 1st make that rule unnecessary though? Unless that character was there from the beginning, in which case you probably should have seen that coming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784731
The rules overlay. If the blowpipe-using foreigner was there in the beginning it would still be unfair on the reader as it uses a weird weapon not mentioned earlier.
Also, it would hardly be fun if there was a series of murders committed from afar and the only suspects are a frail old man, the landlady and a jungle man with a blowpipe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784725
So Eva, Georges and Hideyoshi are dead unless Nanjo lied.

Genji, Natsuhi, Erika and Kumasawa are dead. Pretty strange that Rudolf's dead wasn't confirmed, since he was next to Kumasawa.

That leaves Krauss, Jessica, Rudolf, Kyrie, Battler, Rosa, Godha, Lion and Nanjo to be dead/alive.
I don't see why Krauss, Lion and Jessica could join forces to kill Natsuhi, so they're probably dead, through it has yet to be proven.

Maria is alive, but cannot be a culprit. She cannot use a gun, nor strangle Genji, nor slice Natsuhi's throat, not drown Erika.

There are too many undeads around.
/blue/ Where the bodies moved to a storeroom or locked in any way that would restrain their movement if they were to be actually alive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784725
Seeing as you've earlier said that you feel Natsuhi is nothing but a whore and a borrowed womb and everything, I get the feeling Krauss might be behind this.

He had Nanjo confirm the deaths of Eva, Hideyoshi and George. Krauss, Lion and Jessica are actually alive.
They kill Genji and make Nanjo disappear to keep him quiet.
Then Krauss kills Natsuhi as he never loved her.
The others must've caught on or overheard/saw something so the Krauss, Lion Jessica family team fuck the rest up.
Their plan is to have a happy family life without Natsuhi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784757
I've seen a more liberal interpretation of Knox's 5th that says something along the lines of "No stereotypical characters must factor into the solution," or to take it a step further, you could say that, "The motive behind the culprit's actions must be shown." If look at it this way, then Knox's 5th can be used to ensure that a proper "Whydunnit" is established by the author. The answer can't just be, "the butler is the culprit," without some prior exposition about the butler showing he has something to gain from committing the crime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784800
Yet the butler did it, just look at this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAmfMU1pwxA

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784765

/RED/ The underground VIP room wasn't locked after they found the victims of the first twilight.

>>15784778
/RED/ Natsuhi wasn't killed by Lion, Krauss or Jessica.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784806
Okay, let's return to the basic.
/blue/ Is there more than one culprit?
/blue/ Are the culprit cooperating together?
/blue/ Could any of the victims survive their wounds?

Sounds to me a third party found Krauss' family and Eva's family arguing about the gold.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784806
Krauss, Lion and Jessica did not need to kill Natsuhi. They might have planned on it, but she took her own life because she despaired at the thought of losing her loving family.

SAY IT IN RED!
NATSUHI TOOK HER OWN LIFE!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784820
I already asked that earlier. Natsuhi was murdered.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784800
I can agree with those definitions. In general I believe Knox' rules should be followed and modern mysteries tend to.
I like how Ryu-chan messed around with the twin trope in Higurashi though, but still managed to follow Knox' rules.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784615
Yeah, having a weird foreign person use weird foreign methods to kill someone for weird foreign reasons, sometimes completely unrelated to the victim, is the absolute worst cop-out in mystery writing. It's literally the author giving up completely on coming up with an actual culprit with actual motives. It's like getting to the end of the book and finding out the conclusion is just that the author literally wiped his ass with the final page instead of writing an ending. Even hiding information from the reader, which a lot of the other Knox rules are about, isn't that bad.

[Anonymous No.]

Let's appreciate some good Umineko music while trying to solve this riddle in the thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM-Stt5Yq6o

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784818

/RED/ There are more than one culprit.

/RED/ The culprits were working together.

/RED/ Not all of the victims died instantly.

>>15784820
/RED/ Nobody committed suicide.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784838
Nanjo is definitely a murderer. He got wounded by Genji while he was strangling him, and went to die somewhere else.
Mmm...

My theory is that it's a servant conspiracy to get the gold, but I don't see how Genji and Gohda could've shot Krauss and Eva's party with just the two of them. Maybe Eva or Krauss intended to use the servants as backup but got wiped.

/blue/ Are all the culprits still alive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784859
Interesting.

/RED/ Nanjo isn't a murderer.

/RED/ Not all culprits are alive by the end of the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784832
>It's like getting to the end of the book and finding out the conclusion is just that the author literally wiped his ass with the final page instead of writing an ending.

Ok, I laughed. That might just be the greatest way to troll a reader ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784873
So Nanjo didn't kill Genji in self-defense.

There's definitely an alliance going on, but I don't know how to determine who was part of it. Or even who's still alive. /red/ Ange is a lame detective.

Mmm.. Tell me more about Nanjo.
/blue/ Was Nanjo attacked in the Servants' room?
/blue/ Was Nanjo with Genji when Genji died?
/blue/ Was a weapon used to wound Nanjo?
/blue/ Did Nanjo attacked himself, lied about the deaths, or willingly supported the murderers in any way?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784887
/BLUE/ Where there any closed rooms?
/BLUE/ Where there any accomplices who commited no murder?
/BlUE/ Where Battler Rosa and Kyries really dead?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784900
tfw I recognise my retarded spelling mistake just after posting.
Although I'm suspecting Rosa and Kyrie working togeather, explaining why both their daughters are alive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784910
I don't see any of them managing to overpower Genji or Rudolf.
And women usually don't use direct weapons. A woman would never try to strangle a man, and they wouldn't use a hammer, especially in the '80s.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784922
Rudolf and Battler were probably in on it as well.
Rudolf is the only one whos death was confirmed out of those four in >>15779946

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784832
Glad we agree. It is ridiculous. Like I said though, this happened a lot in the past but nowadays writers seem to follow Knox´ rules, whether consciously or subconsciously. But it still irks me when people praise older mysteries even if they have these cop-out solutions to them. I can see that Rue Morgue has historical value but you can't deny that the solution is ridiculous.
It's like a Sherlock Holmes adaptation I saw on TV once where people were found dead in locked rooms with only tiny little open windows where no human could pass through. Turns out, there was a circus in town and the evil circus master sent his fucking pygmies to do his evil bidding, having them crawl out of the locked rooms after the murders. I mean Jesus Christ. Then again, these stories were a product of their time. Foreign lands and animals were really interesting to people back then and offered some sort of mystique. No book would get published today that had a fucking pygmie army killing people. Or a fucking monkey.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784893

/RED/ Nanjo was attacked and killed in the servant's room.

/RED/ Nanjo's throat was cut by a knife.

/RED/ Genji witnessed Nanjo's death by his own eyes.

/RED/ Nanjo was attacked by another person.

/RED/ Nanjo wasn't an accomplice.

/RED/ Nanjo didn't intentionally lie about any death.

>>15784900
/RED/ The only room that was locked is the parlor where Kyrie, Battler and Rose were found. It was locked by Gohda's masterkey after the group found the scene and left the room.

/RED/ Every accomplice is a murderer.

/RED/ Battler and Kyrie were killed. But they weren't killed by Rosa.

>>15784922
/RED/ A woman cannot strangle a man. A woman can kill anyone with a hammer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784951
So there was two people attacking Nanjo, Genji barged in, and got killed too.
I suspect Rosa slashed Nanjo's throat, and Rudolf strangled Genji.

But if Nanjo was killed in the servants' room, then the murderers moved his body.
Why? It's obvious they couldn't use him as a scapegoat, even Rudolf isn't that dumb.

Okay, let me ask.

/blue/ Is Rosa still alive at the end of the game?
/blue/ Could any of the gold room victim fake their death?
I don't think it's possible to fake a bullet wounds, but let's make it clear.
/blue/ Did any of the murderer killed his/her husband/wife/kid?
/blue/ Was any murderer killed by another murderer?

I'll get that Bernkastel booty even if I have to turn you into swiss cheese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784968

/RED/ There was only one other person in the servants' room with Genji and Nanjo. That person killed both of them.

/RED/Nobody faked their death intentionally in the gold room.

/RED/There was a murderer that was killed by another murderer.

/RED/ Rosa is still alive at the end of the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784951
/BLUE/ Did Rosa Witness Kyrie's and Battler's Death
/BLUE/ Where was Gohda at the time they were killed
/BLUE/ When was the last time used his master key
/BLUE/ Where is Gohda's Master key now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784994
So the male murderer was in the Servants' room and killed Nanjo.
/blue/ Was the person that killed Nanjo a "survivor" of the gold room?
/blue/ Did Rosa kill anyone after her "death" in the Seventh Twilight?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15784996

/RED/ Rosa witnessed Kyrie's and Battler's deaths.

/RED/ Gohda was with the detective - Ange - at the time Battler and Kyrie were killed.

/RED/Gohda only used his master key when he locked the parlor after the group found the bodies and left.

/RED/ Gohda still has his master key.

[Anonymous No.]

So it's Rosa and Maria. But they needed muscle for the strangling and moving Nanjo.

I believe Gohda, Rosa and Maria are behind this. Possibly Rosa saw a good father in Gohda and they plan to elope and live as a family with all the gold.

Rosa discovered the gold room with the rest, fucked everyone up with the help of Gohda and proceeded to kill the rest of the people together.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785010
But why move Nanjo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785004

/RED/ The person who killed Genji and Nanjo wasn't a survivor of the gold room.

/RED/ Rosa killed after her "death" in the Seventh Twilight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785007
>>15785010
This. Rosa killed Kyrie and Battler. Gohda was with Ange at the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785016
So Rosa definitely killed Rudolf, in retaliation for all the abuse she suffered from him as a kid. In a very brutal way.

So, about our little miss detective...
/blue/ Was Erika's murderer a male?
/blue/ Was Erika assassinated by a lone murderer?
/blue/ Will we get the answer before this thread dies?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785016
Genji and Nanjo were killed by Gohda. Nanjo was moved in order to scapegoat him and create confusion.
Rosa killed Kyrie and Battler. Then killed Erika/Kumasawa/Rudolf.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785010
Hmm-hmmm. Close.

/RED/ Rosa definitely killed Krauss, Hideyoshi, George, Jessica and Lion.

/RED/ Gohda killed Nanjo and Genji.

Let me hear the rest.

>>15785015
/RED/ Nanjo's body was moved to frame him as a culprit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785010
atleast one murderer is dead so I'm guessing that's wrong

>>15785035
/BLUE/ Did Rosa kill Nanjo and Genji, if not where was she then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785035
>Nanjo's body was moved to frame him as a culprit
Okay, so the culprit is definitely retarded.

Rosa killed her siblings herself, and let Gohda kill the others, with the exception of Kumasawa, who was killed very brutally, probably because she tried to defend Rudolf.
Erika was killed in a pretty clean way, probably by Gohda.

That's my theory : Rosa acted out of jealousy and repressed hate toward her sibling, and Gohda acted out of interest but was not passionate about it, that's why his murders are less messy and bloody than Rosa's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785021

/RED/ Rosa didn't kill Kyrie or Battler.

/RED/ Rosa killed Rudolf.

/RED/ Erika was murdered by a woman.

/RED/ This game will be solved in this thread.

>>15785033
/RED/ Kyrie and Battler weren't killed by Rosa.

/RED/ Erika, Kumasawa and Rudolf were killed by Rosa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785046
Okay, with some luck, this will be my final question :
/blue/ Is there more than two murderers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785035
But one of the murderers was murdered by one of the murderers, right? So Eva survived the gold room and came back...but Gohda and Rosa are alive by the end of the game.

/BLUE/ Eva commited murder. Eva was murdered after this fact!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785046
/BLUE/ Rudolf killed Kyrie and Battle and Genji and Nanjo
/Blue/ Rosa and Rudolf performed the first twilight

If this is true... Then this story has no love.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785046
/BLUE/ While Ange was with Gohda when Battler and Kyrie were killed, Gohda killed them regardless.
Ange was unconscious or helpless to stop it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785043

/RED/ Gohda killed Nanjo and Genji, then moved Nanjo's copse.

>>15785045
/RED/ Erika was killed by Rosa.

/RED/ Battler, Kyrie and Natsuhi weren't killed by Rosa or Gohda.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785046
This is it, witch! I've got you cornered!

Eva survived the gold room murders and killed Kyrie and Battler! She was then killed by Rosa!

The rest was done by Gohda and Rosa as I've said earlier!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785063
>Erika was killed by Rosa
Now this is strange, Erika's murder is pretty clean, even through being drowned is a horrible death. I think that, at this point, Rosa went full psycho.

Okay, one more, just to be sure :
/blue/ Was Kumasawa part of the conspiracy?
That would explain what Rudolf was doing in the garden, he was brought here by the old maid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785066
And as an add-on, she killed Natsuhi. Eva believed they were behind the deaths of her family. She was then killed by Gohda/Rosa!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785051
/RED/ There are more than 2 murderers.

>>15785056
/RED/ Eva didn't kill anyone!!

>>15785060
/RED/ Rosa killed 5 out of the 6 victims of the 1st Twilight.

/RED/ Rudolf didn't kill anyone!!

>>15785062
/RED/ Gohda didn't kill Kyrie and Battler!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785080
/blue/ Was the third accomplice part of the family or part of the servants?
I stand by my theory that Kumasawa and Gohda assisted Rosa and that Kumasawa tried to stop her when Rosa began beating Rudolf to death with the hammer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785066
>>15785075

/RED/ Eva didn't kill anyone.

/RED/ Eva was alive when the group discovered the 1st Twilight.

>>15785073
/RED/ Kumasawa is part of the culprits.

Who did she kill then??!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785084
That actually sounds correct to me...
Is this check mate?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785080
/BLUE/ Kyrie and Battle shot each other simultaneously out of distrust created by the discovery of Rosa's "corpse."

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785084

/RED/ Kumasawa was an accomplice.

But who did she kill?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785080
/BLUE/ Eva is alive by the end of the game!

Now...if I've got these Reds right, either Erika or Kumasawa killed Natsuhi, Battler and Kyrie since they weren't killed by Gohda or Rosa. I can't figure out why though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785089
/BLUE/ Kyrie and Battler were killed by Kumasawa... By shooting them to death.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785089
Alright, here is my theory. >>15784701

Rosa killed Krauss, Lion, Jessica, Eva, George, and Kumasawa killed Hideyoshi.

Gohda killed Nanjo and Genji.

Gohda killed Natsuhi (he's very good with knives, after all).

Rosa killed Kyrie and Battler.

Rosa then drowned Erika.

Kumasawa brought Rudolf to the rose garden, and both were killed in a murderous rage by Rosa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785089
This is it, witch!
Kumasawa killed Kyrie and Battler!
We already know Rosa killed Erika!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785094

/RED/ Battler and Kyrie didn't shoot each other!

>>15785090
Who did Kumasawa kill?

And who killed Natsuhi??

If you answer those, it's over.

>>15785100

/RED/ Eva was killed before the end of the game!

/RED/ Natsuhi wasn't killed by Erika, Kumasawa, Rosa or Gohda!

/RED/ Kumasawa killed Battler and Kyrie.

Well done. Now the only question

WHO KILLED NATSUHI???!!

[Anonymous No.]

The killer trio is Rosa, Gohda and Kumasawa.
Rosa killed in the gold room.
Gohda murdered Genji and Nanjo, then moved Nanjo's body to confuse the rest.
Kumasawa killed Natsuhi. Then she killed Battler and Kyrie with a gun as Rosa watched. Rosa drowned Erika. Then Rosa and Nanjo killed Kumasawa and Rudolf! They plan to elope together with Maria! Eva survives and writes a sad blog!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785125
I stand by what I said in >>15785111, Gohda is the knife expert.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785108
/RED/ Correct.

Who killed Natsuhi? And what about Eva?

>>15785111

/RED/ Eva wasn't killed by Rosa.
/RED/ Kumasawa killed Kyrie and Battler.
/RED/Gohda killed Nanjo and Genji.
/RED/Natsuhi wasn't killed by Gohda.
/RED/ Rosa killed Erika.
/RED/ Kumasawa and Rudolf were killed by Rosa.

>>15785115
/RED/ Kumasawa killed Battler and Kyrie.

What about Eva and Natsuhi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785146
>Natsuhi wasn't killed by Gohda
Well, that was unexpected. So Kumasawa killed Natsuhi?

Also, Eva was killed by Kumasawa. Everyone else in the gold room was killed by Rosa.

[Anonymous No.]

Why did Eva survive the gold room? What is the point of that? She doesn't kill anyone, but she is killed before the end of the game. Why?

And I can't figure out who killed Natsuhi. She didn't commit suicide. She wasn't killed by any of the murderers or Erika. It's either Rudolf, Battler or Kyrie, but I don't know WHY

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785136

/RED/ Eva is killed before the end of the game. But not by Rosa!

>>15785141
/RED/ Natsuhi wasn't killed by Gohda, Rosa or Kumasawa!
/RED/ Gohda killed Nanjo and Genji.

/RED/ Natsuhi wasn't killed by Rosa, Gohda or Kumasawa!!

/RED/Battler and Kyrie were killed by Kumasawa.

/RED/ Rosa killed Erika, Rudolf and Kumasawa!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785146
Natsuhi killed Eva!
I still don't know how she died though, if she didn't kill herself and Eva didn't kill anyone. Maybe they had a deadly rumble and Gohda cleaned up Eva's corpse afterwards?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785157
/blue/ Is there more than 3 murderers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785157
I'm 100% sure Natsuhi kills Eva.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785153

/RED/ Natsuhi wasn't killed by Gohda, Rosa or Kumasawa!

/RED/ Eva wasn't killed by Kumasawa.

>>15785155
/RED/ Eva was unconscious but alive when Nanjo examined her. Nanjo made a mistake and thought she was dead. Later, one of the culprits went back and killed her.

/RED/ Rudolf didn't kill anyone.
/RED/ Battler didn't kill anyone.
/RED/ Kyrie didn't kill anyone.

[Anonymous No.]

Wait, shit. It's Maria. Maria kills Natsuhi after Natsuhi kills Eva. A little girl could kill her aunt with a knife or sorts. Maria was in the plot all along.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785171
So there are FOUR murderers.

>>15785174
I'd rather go with the Natsuhi killed Eva theory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785171
>>15785174
Scrapping that, Rosa, Gohda or Kumasawa killed Eva later on. Maria still killed Natsuhi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785161
/RED/ Natsuhi didn't kill Eva or anyone.
/RED/ Eva wasn't killed by Rosa or Kumasawa.

>>15785165
/RED/ There are exactly 4 murderers!!

>>15785167
/RED/ Natsuhi didn't kill anyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785185
Gohda goes back to kill Eva.
Maria kills Natsuhi.

It's over BEATRIIIICCEEE!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785185
/blue/ Is Kyrie an accomplice?
/blue/ Is Erika an accomplice?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785174
Hahahaha.

/RED/ Maria killed Natsuhi!!

But how??

/RED/ Maria can't kill an adult with only a knife.

>>15785177
>>15785182
/RED/ Eva was killed by Gohda.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785191
/RED/ Gohda killed Eva.
/RED/ Maria killed Natsuhi.

But /RED/ Maria can't kill an adult with only a knife.

How did she do it?

>>15785194
/RED/ The culprits are Rosa, Gohda, Kumasawa and Maria.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785196
I knew I would be the one to solve your riddles BEATRIIIICEEE!!!
/BLUE/ Maria killed Natsuhi of her own free will!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785196
>Maria killed Natsuhi
Noooo...

Shit, she probably drugged Natsuhi.
/blue/ Except for the wound at the throat, does Natsuhi's body have any bruise?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785208
>>15785207

Well done.

/RED/ Natsuhi was poisoned. After she died, Maria cut her throat with a knife.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785206
>>15785207
REPEAT IT IN RED!
USHIROMIYA NATSUHI DIED BECAUSE HER THROAT WAS SLIT OPEN!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785216
Aw, shit.

Ange's lifespan will be really short. Three wolves and a lamb.

[Anonymous No.]

This was a lot of fun. I've been working on a gameboard myself today and hopefully it'll be ready by tomorrow. Great job, Game Master.

Will you bless us with a backstory to this crime? Why did Kumasawa help? Did Rosa really plan to elope with Gohda?

[Anonymous No.]

Good game, everyone. But here is a final red for you guys!

/RED/ Ange is fucked. She is the lone sheep among the wolves by the end of the game.

hahahaha


>>15785217
Sorry Battler but you are late. See >>15785216

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785232
I really hope I get some Bernkastel for this, because this is a depressing game you made for us.

Also, don't repeat what I said in >>15785220

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785232
Dame da....ZEN ZEN DAME DA!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785220
Haha, poor Ange! She finally got to play detective like her brother but it ended too soon!! *cackle*

>>15785227
Thanks, I am trying. I really enjoy playing around with you guys. I hope I can challenge your game tomorrow! Make it a confusing one.

>Will you bless us with a backstory to this crime? Why did Kumasawa help? Did Rosa really plan to elope with Gohda?

Rosa charms Gohda and uses him as her muscle. She will kill him along with Ange and Maria in the end. She will be a free woman finally and a filthy rich one.
Kumasawa was bribed. And about Maria...Rosa promised that after all of this is done, they will be together and live happily in the Golden Land.

1st Twilight: Rosa discovers the gold along with the others, she kills them but Eva survives. Nanjo examines Eva, George and Hideyoshi but makes a mistake and finds Eva dead. Later Rosa orders Gohda to come back and make sure everyone is dead.

2nd Twilight: Gohda kills Nanjo with a knife but Genji puts up a real fight. He is strangled in the end. Nanjo's corpse is moved to cause confusion.

4th Twilight: Maria poisons Natsuhi then cuts her throat.

5th-6th-7th: Battler and Kyrie are talking with Rosa. Rosa lured them into the parlor because she told them that she finds Erika suspicious and wants to make a plan. Kumasawa shots Battler and Kyrie. Rosa fakes her own death and Kumasawa gives her a masterkey so that Rosa can get out of the room after Gohda locks it.

8th Twilight: Erika retreats into her own room. Rosa beats her up and then drowns her.

9th: Kumasawa lures Rudolf into the garden. Rosa kills them both in a brutal way with the hammer.

Ange is killed them same way. Then Rosa shots Gohda and Maria.

[Anonymous No.]

This was a good thread. Listening to the OST while trying to figure out the culprits was great. Can't believe we haven't thought of making gameboards earlier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785261
>Rosa fakes her own death and Kumasawa gives her a masterkey so that Rosa can get out of the room after Gohda locks it.
This suddenly makes a whole lot more sense.
Good game. Well thought through. Hard to see Kumasawa blast Battler and Kyrie though, I have to say. But hey, we just had a story where she fucking boils Kyrie's innards with mackerel soup so everything's possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785235
/RED/ I didn't see your comment when I wrote mine.

>this is a depressing game
Nah, I thought it wasn't that bad.

Anyway, I promised right? Any specific details you want in your Tea Party?

>>15785267
I really prefer to put the most emphasis on the whodunnit instead of the how - I think this is more exciting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785261
>8th Twilight: Erika retreats into her own room. Rosa beats her up and then drowns her.
Erection attained.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785286
My consolation is that the Erika in the Tea Room must be pouting that she was disposed of so quickly. And Ange must be very annoyed too that she died so easily.
Not really, I just finally want Bernkastel to get a spanking.

Next time, I'll make a Game Board.

>>15785296
Rosa confirmed for being suspected of being the murderer next time and locked in Kinzo's study.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785286
Oh yeah. It would be fun if it's Battler who spanks Bern. Lambdadelta would make a half-asset job.

[Anonymous No.]

Seems like Umineko would transition well into an Ace Attorney Online styled game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785285
I tried to put lots of red herrings into the story. Nanjo, Eva, Rudolf and Kyrie for example.

>Hard to see Kumasawa blast Battler and Kyrie though, I have to say. But hey, we just had a story where she fucking boils Kyrie's innards with mackerel soup so everything's possible.

Don't underestimate old women. They are scary.

>>15785298
>>15785326
All right. In the next thread, then. How long should it be? Is it okay if it isn't too long?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785343
Ideally, it should be as long as the Bible, but I'll settle for something short.
A short story is better than no story. Make it as long as you can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785343
Oh, and I forgot.
If you feel uneasy detailling Bern's spanking, you can focus on the rest of the tea party.
Having Ange and Erika discussing how dumb the game was while Lambdadelta is just silently staring at Bernkastel's ass getting whacked sounds fun.

It's a Tea Party, it should be for relaxing.
Don't just cater to me. I'm obsessed but I'm trying to not be too egotistical.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785355
>>15785360
I already started writing it. So far Battler, Beato and Lambda are present. I think I will enjoy this quite much. Btw, my first language isn't English so there might be some mistakes in it.

Any idea guys who you want to see in the Tea Party? Bern is a given.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785376
I'd like to see you stop replying to the cancer killing these threads

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785376
I'd like to see Erika.
Because after the pathetic death she get in the game, she must be salty as fuck.

Plus I kinda want to see her reaction to Battler beating her beloved mistress. Will she be horrified? Will she touch herself?

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And finally, a Rika hijack to finish this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785435
>finish

We're on page 4

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785441
If you have more pictures, feel free to post them. All I have left are sprites from the games, it'll get labelled as avatarfagging if I post with them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785467
I think it would be better to wait until someone actually has something to discuss instead of just posting randomly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785489
>I think
Stopped reading there.

[Anonymous No.]

The Tea Party is going along nicely but then Bern suddenly appears and starts bullying Battler.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785496
So the gameboard was just Battler playing alone or what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785499
Battler Beato and Lambda were watching the game of some unknown goat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785509
Lambda must be laughing her ass off at how pathetic Erika was.

So much for little miss detective.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785493
Sorry, I was trying to not be condescending. What I originally going to post was "How about you actually try to discuss something instead of just shitposting?"

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785517
>posting picture is shitposting
I was right to not read your entire post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785514
Isn't Erika part of the meta game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785586
I haven't written Erika into the Tea Party yet. I am at the part where Bern is making Battler cry like a little baby.

Erika was in my game though and got killed. That's what he is referring to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785591
No, I mean in general.
Is Erika just a pawn or does she have a meta presence before her death?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785600
In the main series she has a piece on the game board in ep 5 and 6 but she is meta too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785604
Oh, okay.

[Anonymous No.]

So these boards we make are basically Battler familiarizing with the system while Lambdadelta and Bernkastel are silently frowning upon his childish games?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785628
In my tea party, it is just a random Kakera among the many made by goats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785662
Goats make kakeras too?
I should really replay Umineko. I know they were used as servants and that they represent the readers that find to solve the mystery, I didn't know they made games too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785670
They make theories and all of those theories become kakeras.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15780376
You're extremely naive. I also used to believe that but you made one critical error. You assumed that ''cannot satisfy him sexually'' means never having done anything sexual.

You forgot the most important piece of information in all of Higurashi. Tenpei has a big dick.

A untrained loli cannot satisfy a grown man sexually. Especially one with such sexual prowess as Tenpei Her cute mouth, her bleached anus. Her small hands. All of those cannot satisfy Tenpei. Not to mention in ep 3, Satoko screamed, saying that she no longer wants to do yucky things, she's talking about those sorts of things.

So you see, Satoko is tained, disgusting, corrupted and broken in every way but her one remaining area of purity that matters. Because Tenpei has a big dick.

[Anonymous No.]

During the ending of episode 6, at the scene right before the wedding showdown between Erika and Beatrice. There's a scene where Beatrice talks to Kanon, and Beatrice starts to remember things of the past and the nature of her true identity. The last lines that are exchanged between the two are these:

Kanon: "That's no way for the witch of closed rooms to talk."
Beatrice: "So, after all, I (watashi) must be..."
Kanon: "Me (warawa)"

What does it mean? What is the difference between 'watashi' and 'warawa' that was so drastic that Witch Hunt had to point it out?

[Anonymous No.]

Hell, now that I think about it, lacking satisfaction doesn't even guarantee no penetration or rape. It just implies lack of satisfaction and nothing more.
Tenpei could've very likely raped Satoko every night but she just couldn't satisfy him. BIG DICK.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785972
The scene doesn't really make sense if it just goes
"I must be..."
"Me"

The point is that Beatrice used to refer to herself as 'warawa' before she became a vegetable, and Kanon is telling her to start acting like that again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15785984
Oh damn, that scene makes much more sense now. I had always been confused by that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15783881
Excuses, excuses. You're doomed.

[Anonymous No.]

I wish there was more art of Bern and her nice boobs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15786374
I wish there was more art of Bernkastel not existing at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15786387

That sounds awful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15786461
She deserves much worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15786502
I agree.

[Anonymous No.]

T r i A n t h o l o g y

[Anonymous No.]

>>15786637
Why does nobody in Rokkenjima ticks at Erika's hair?
Also, should I wait the next thread to post my game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15787138
wait until torrents for the Tri game and CD get uploaded before you post your game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15787138
Think that'd be best. We're a bit dead at the moment because of most of America is still asleep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15787256
Okay then. I'll make sure to refine it then.

[Anonymous No.]

Almost done. Just a few details to fix, a less lemony text to write, and we can start the game.
If you want, you can take a peek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15787593
The answer will obviously be Battler.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15787852
Poison is a woman's weapon. Battler must be working with a cutie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15787593
Is that the final version? I'm eager to start playing your game. The first twilight seems very suspicious, like always.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15788163
I think we should start playing as well. It's well past midday in America so I'm sure there's lots of people at least lurking at the moment.
Maybe the GM should make a new thread to start off his game board. That way we can easily scroll back to the top to re-read the game when we need to. We're nearly due a new thread anyway, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15788181
it's only just turned midday in like one section of America atm

[Anonymous No.]

>>15788181
I'll wait until we reached page 10 to start a new thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15788181
>>15788190
>>15788205

Well, I will look into thread every now and then while I am writing the Tea Party. I think it doesn't hurt to start the game, at worst we will continue it in the new thread.

>>15787593
First, please confirm in red how many people are on the island.

Then repeat it in red "Nobody committed suicide!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>15788308
I refuse to confirm or deny anything for now.
It'll be a pain if I have to repeat myself in the incoming thread.

Plus I have to make out a few more details that I forgot. Key, closed rooms, that kind of stuff. Small details, really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15787593
Wait a minute, where's Gohda? And Kumasawa? Are you simply not using them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15788406
Oh shit, I forgot about them.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is that when Bern appears at least one person's life is ruined?
I'm trying to make the tea party cheerful but fuck when Bern appears it just writes itself that something horrible is going to happen.

>>15788319
Take your time then. No need to rush things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15788408
Haha, are you kidding me? You can't make a game and not know about all the pieces. You can leave people out though, like the other anon did. Maybe just roll with that. They're not on the staff roster for this game board.
Either that or you're trolling us and the unidentified body is Gohda.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15788415
>>15788423
Okay, I had to redo everything, but I'm finally ready. Again

By the way, the culprits were Battler and Jessica. Poison was used a lot because none of them could stand the idea of shooting their own parents.

They murdered Kinzo very violently to pay him back for the abuse Jessica mentions in the first episode.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15788463
>Okay, I had to redo everything

So you mean EVERYTHING? Then what about the new game? Could we a take peek?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15788486
NO.

I'm waiting for the next thread.

>>15788415
A smug bitch, yeah. That's Bern all right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15788463
Wait, you changed the entire game because I pointed out you left out two servants? There was no need for that, anon.
Also, I must've missed that comment about Kinzo's abuse to Jessica. Nothing more than name-calling, surely?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15788504
In my memory, Jessica mentions getting spanked by Kinzo with something. I'll have to check it out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15788504
I am pretty sure it was Kinzo spanking Jessica with a wooden sword.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15788517
... and that necessitates a violent death?

[Anonymous No.]

Here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15788533
Maybe Jessica wanted to be spanked by Kanon first. She felt that Kinzo violated her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15788533
Well, in the full game, they were both drunk, and couldn't stop the murders once they started.
That was meant to be a reference to the Amityville murders.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15788488
Though I kind of understand Bern now. It's really fun to bully Battler.

[Anonymous No.]

Can't we just make a new thread and start the game if it's ready? I really want to take it on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15788560
At this rate, we'll all be here tomorrow, so go on.
Just don't name it "seacat general" or something, generals are hated.

>>15788559
That's why Beatrice, Maria, Georges, Jessica, and Rudolf do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15788560
Yeah, somebody hurry up and start a new thread already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15788563
>>15788564
I'll leave that to the Game Master so he can use his game board information as the OP.
Are you ready, GM? It appears you have plenty of challengers ready to play your game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15788576
[sweating intensifies]

I fear you people will tear my games in pieces in seconds.

Alright, it's >>15788590. I'll post my game here in a second.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15788591
Don't worry about that. It's easy as a writer to assume your readers think the same way you do but it's often not the case at all. I'm sure you'll amaze us with some twists and turns.

[Anonymous No.]

beato