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1576510 No.1576510 [Reply] [Original]

I couldn't help but notice that while Touhou characters are discussed daily, the gameplay of the games themselves are hardly ever brought up.

In light of this, I suggest a bullet dodging thread. Techniques, protips, cures for "danmaku sickness", ect.

>> No.1576513

Truth be told, I never got out of the habit of bombing.

Guess it's from all those games I played as a kid with a USE IT OR LOSE IT mentality to bombs.

>> No.1576515

what the fuck is danmaku sickness

just hold shift and fucking dodge

>> No.1576523

>>1576515
Isn't it like seeing danmaku patterns and such in everyday objects? Something like that?

>> No.1576524

Orin is the hardest thing about SA.

>> No.1576526

>>1576523
that happens with anything repetitive and mentally stimulating (to some degree)

>> No.1576535

To be honest, you can only talk about the gameplay so long before you run out of stuff to say.

>> No.1576542

>>1576523
>>1576515
It's a side-effect of particularly intense or long danmaku sessions. Seeing bullet patterns when you close your eyes/dreaming danmaku, immediately dodging things that are bullet-like, panicking at the sight of sparks or spark showers. Beneficial if you play scout in TF2, but otherwise kind of distracting.

>> No.1576596

What can be said about dodging bullets?

>> No.1576600

>>1576542
This happened to me when my brother and I played 3 straight hours of Tetris Attack. I couldn't see anything but falling blocks and mentally making X11 chain scenarios for about a 4 days.

>> No.1576649
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>>1576510
Are you saying I can dodge bullets?

>> No.1576874

>>1576510
>protips
OH SHI-

PROTIP: Shoot the Touhoe until its dead

>> No.1576887

One thing I can definitely say about this: caffeine will NOT help.

>> No.1576882

Something relevant... the bombing system in MoF was fun? Discuss.

>> No.1576883

I heard it's like achieving an enlightened state of mind after a while of playing.

>> No.1576919

I can't learn to bomb ;_;

I beat all the games nomiss, but I never bomb ;_;

>> No.1576930

>>1576919
Even the PC-98 games?

In b4 no ones plays PC-98

>> No.1576972
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1576972

>Isn't it like seeing danmaku patterns and such in everyday objects? Something like that?
picture related

>> No.1576979
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>>1576972

>> No.1576986

>>1576523
>>1576515
>>1576526
>>1576542
>>1576600
>>1576972

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetris_Effect

>> No.1577027

Is there any way to not lose your mind during Catadioptric?

>> No.1577062

>>1576986
Yeah, that shit happened to me back when I was big on DDR back in high school.

>> No.1577066

>>1576883
That's heightened focus. I swear, the world will BEND around you in that state. You won't notice, but everyone else will.

>> No.1577093

>>1576972

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO ME ZUN

>> No.1577117

>>1576513
Play Sentimental Shooting and you'll stop using bombs cuz if you use them you can't beat the game to the fullesst, I hope TH12 will have the same system cuz bombing is fail.

>> No.1577145
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1577145

So everyone knows what danmaku sickness is, but no way to cure it?

>> No.1577148

Wide vs. local focus. Do you observe the whole screen and move into the gaps or just the area around your touhou and dodge?

>> No.1577160

>>1577145

HOLY FUCK A WALL OF SUPPOSITORIES

>> No.1577163

>>1577148
If I've watched replays of the stage and practiced it I usually have a wide focus, especially on extra stages. If not it's always local. I do better with the former.

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>>1577145
whoa

>> No.1577215

>>1577148
Observing the whole screen works much better for me.

>> No.1577263

Someone has to work on illustrations on the bullets and their "real" hitboxes.

>> No.1577271

>>1577263
Oh, sure, just weave through the bullets, what are you, NUTS?

>> No.1577294
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>> No.1577302

>>1577148
Wide between bosses since the stage isn't filled up with bullets, narrow during bosses and other times when the stage starts filling up. If I look wide I sort of get confused by all the bullets, so if there's a lot I have to concentrate on the immediate area around the player.

>> No.1577304

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetris_effect

>> No.1577311

>>1576887
Lies. Caffeine is the key to good Touhou runs.

>> No.1577341

>>1577311
Caffeine and carefully monitored alcohol intake. Speed might help.

>> No.1577343

>>1577311
I get too jittery.

>> No.1577371

So if I am good at touhou then i can dodge bullets IRL?

>> No.1577376

>>1577371
People in the old west played Touhou

>> No.1577379

People in Kaneda play Touhou.

>> No.1577383
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>>1577145
>>1577184
>>1577371
Who needs to dodge?

>> No.1577392

>>1577145

Why is this picture so fucking awesome?

>> No.1577695

>>1577392
Because it's less hectic than the actual Reisen battle.

>> No.1577700

Am I the only one that's stopped paying attention to where the bullets are and started only watching where they aren't?

>> No.1577705

>>1577700
That can be a very small area. Maybe you've got the right idea?

>> No.1577707

>>1577705

I dunno.

It's not helping me beat Youmu on Hard.

The bitch.

Though I can reliably no miss up to her now.

>> No.1577710

>>1577700
I do that in some cards

>> No.1577711

>>1577263
you can usually tell that by the color of the bullet

>> No.1577717

>>1576513
I usually bomb when I think I'm gonna die
better to waste a bomb than to die

>> No.1577731

>>1577707
Youmu isn't too difficult until that one where she slashes the bottom of the screen. God I hate vertical bullets. It's why Reisen tears me to pieces in IN, that last spellcard with the rainbow suppositories.

>> No.1577745

>>1577731

I'm fine with vertical bullets, in fact that's the card that I destroy most easily.

Asura Sword's not too bad now that I'm used to it, too.

It's just that her normal patterns shred me for some reason.

>> No.1577747

>>1576887
Caffeine alone isn't helpful, but caffeine + tea amino acids is. The easiest way to get this combo is drinking tea. Green tea might be slightly better than black, but this could be placebo.

>> No.1577755

>>1577700
Does it even work?
Watching bullets you can figure out where they're going to be, and where they're NOT going to be in the future.
Watching empty spaces? Not so much.

>> No.1577758

>>1577745
Reisen and Youmu have some tricky patterns that are not helped by the slow-motion and bullet splitting. Still, though, I can manage past Youmu but Reisen just tears me up at that last card.

>> No.1577759

>>1577755
You just need to watch the empty spaces in time.

>> No.1577768

The first time you play Touhou, you play it like Space Invaders. You move back and forth frantically. You die a lot.

Then you realize that you can move up and down, too. You complete EASY MODO.

Then you come to understand streaming. If the bullets are aimed at you, you don't move frantically; you move slowly to one side in a very cautious, streamlined manner. You complete NORMAL MODO.

Then one day you realize that you can see the spaces between the bullets instead of the bullets themselves. You feel like Neo as he saw the truth behind the Matrix. You complete HARD MODO.

Finally, you realize that Touhou is not a two-dimensional game; it has a third dimension: time. As your mind thinks in all three dimensions at once, transferring the Z axis of normal experience to a Z axis of time, you finally realize how to be in the right place at the right time to beat the hardest of spell cards. You complete LUNATIC MODO. You have reached Touhou Zen.

>> No.1577775

>>1577768

Or you complete Normal/Easy modo and feel it's enough and go back to the two best things about Touhou: the doujins and the music

>> No.1577778

>>1577759
Except that doesn't work, because empty spaces, in addition to moving, can shrink, disappear and reappear in other places. Bullets just move (usually) .

>> No.1577889
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>>1577775
you can do that,too...It's perfectly valid, and I won't judge you.
these two however...

>> No.1577931

>>1577778
I only do that in luck based spellcards like Kagome Kagome and Silent Selene and I do fine

>> No.1577991

>>1577889
To most people, the harder difficulties are truly, truly hard. To some, it's just a matter of memorization which can lose its appeals fast.

I've completed EoSD and PCB (the only games that were translated when I first got into touhou) Hard, got to Sakuya Lunatic one afternoon and stopped. Just didn't feel it was fun doing trials&error or studying replays for a specific spellcard anymore

MoF and SA not having Sakuya in them didn't help increase my motivation either

>> No.1578011

I'd recomend trying to look at the area around your hitbox rather then the hitbox, works well for spammy cards <.<

>> No.1578049

>>1578011
><.<
Go back to gaia.

>> No.1578061

>>1578011
Kill yourself.

>> No.1578316

I like this discussion. It's a welcome change from the usual "I'd her armpits" or whatever.

>> No.1578368
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1578368

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>> No.1578381

>>1578368
Welcome to my universe, my life, and my nightmares.

>> No.1578387
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1578387

>>1578011
Fuck off, Gaia.

>> No.1578398
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>>1578368
Seriously, fuck that spellcard.

>> No.1578399

>>1578368
Easy spellcard.

>> No.1578443

>>1578399
Well fuck you

>> No.1578451

>>1578443
...;_;

>> No.1578456

>>1578387
I lol'd, enjoy your Patchouli RP.

>> No.1578468

this thread sucks. stop posting in it.

>> No.1578479

>>1578468
Sup', CurryButthurt.

>> No.1578867

I recently started playing MoF hard, finding it immensly enjoyable.

Havent gotten past stage 4 yet though.

>> No.1578896

>>1578867
>Havent gotten past stage 4 yet though.

Step 1: Pick MarisaB(ugged).
Step 2: Keep your power between 3 and 3.95
Step 3: Make sure every boss you fight is being hit by the middle beam.
Step 4: ????
Step 5: Profit.

>> No.1578935

I use bombs all the fucking time.

I can't dodge? Bomb. Too many bullets of the screen? Bomb. I get mad at the boss? Bomb I feel like it? Bomb.

It is fucking awesome.

>> No.1578973

>>1578935
I recommend you only play MariNito SA team.

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>>1578867
MoF has the best stage 2 ever.

FUCK YEAH HINA.

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