/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Why are most idol otaku so disgusting when the culture revolves around hard working girls that give it their all?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15681894
>hard working girls that give it their all
You've got a point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15681894
They don't want to nor are able to work hard themselves. They then suppress those feelings of inadequacy by looking at teenage girls working hard.

Pretty much like high school anime letting people experience the fun times they never had during their high school lives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15681894
Because the entire industry is a disgusting system which swallows up young, idealistic girls, works them half to death while taking most of the money for a few years, then throwing them out like a used cum rag. That the girls "give it their all" for such a sadistic enterprise just shows how twisted the executives and their satanically-slick "talent scouts" really are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15681894

>ugly otaku

i don't think that's true. I've seen some handsome normies on youtube who are into aidoru

[Anonymous No.]

>>15683537
>swallows up young, idealistic girls, works them half to death

they probably do 2 hour's worth of work a day. how are they being worked to death exactly? most of the time they just appear on a show? that's work?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15683537

:03

who is that qt behind sakura?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15683553
Dance practice, singing practice, restricted diets to keep up appearances, no dating allowed (I think this is from the Korean side of things but I'm not so sure)

[Anonymous No.]

>>15687186
It has been stated by the constitutional court of Japan that a company couldn't forbit its idols to have a boyfriend, since having a relationship is a an essential part of a full life experience, and the constitution of Japan acknowledges the right to pursue happiness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15687207

Well if the respected constitutional court of japan says so then I'm sure its followed meticulously

[Anonymous No.]

>>15687213
The fact is that many idols make ends meet by having some sugar daddies. I'm not talking about superstars like the perfume girls, but frankly, do you really think all the 48 AKBs make a living out of singing ? It's weird for us, but that's how entertainment works in japan since the kabuki actors of the Edo period.

[Anonymous No.]

My kami Oshi always inspires me to do my best!

Yush!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15687207
Only one court verdict ruled that. Another court verdict about another different group in which an idol's misdemeanor with fans caused the group to be disbanded, ruled the case in favor of the agency instead and the idol was asked to pay back her lesson fees.
In either cases the point of contention was the payment of free lessons and other allowances, not "muh bf muh pursuit of happiness".
How funny, now that I look at it, that western media is so entrenched in their liberal bullshit they can't even report about two plain court cases right.
The only thing I get is that it's a case by case situation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15687285
I love how your "fact" turns out to be sweeping wishful thinking one sentence later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15687186
Well, it's their job as an idol to look, dance and sing at least decently.

And very few people(cucks) are willing to follow an active pre-christmas cake idol that has an boyfriend, so they're forced to hide them if they do.

[Anonymous No.]

>cares about how their favorite idol is dressed and how cute they look
>meanwhile dress like shit
>dont shower
>cries about never having a chance

[Anonymous No.]

>>15689914
Whom thou quoteth?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15690107
anime twitter

[Anonymous No.]

>>15683537
That's the times, idols are popular again. I don't think you can really compare a trend follower who thinks the most popular girl is cute, to a idol obsessive that has focus on gaining knowledge about the new and relatively unknown girls (he seeks the 'watching girl grow' experience).

[Anonymous No.]

>>15687285
>48 AKBs
I chuckled.

[dcanonymous No.]

>>15681894
haruka <3
best boy

[Anonymous No.]

>>15681894
>girls that give it their all?
All thee holes and two hands?

[Anonymous No.]

Stop reading vice

[Anonymous No.]

>>15695378
You must read "vice" too if you made that post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15683553
Look at the concert performances of heavy dance groups like Baby Metal. They have to do intense physical training to be able to still sing halfway decently while doing aerobic choreographed dances.

I recall another group that in an interview about performing overseas said she wanted to show western audiences that idols could both dance and sing. Over here performers tend to either focus on their voice and don't move much in live shows or they have big dance numbers and mostly lipsynch during lives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15681894
Who are they.
Also, what is an Oshi?
>inb4 being this new

[Anonymous No.]

>>15687303
Why do you oshi that whore? That girl destroyed Nogizaka's pureness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15687186
>(I think this is from the Korean side of things but I'm not so sure)

So basically, you don't know what you're talking about. Thanks for your thoughts, dumbass.

[dcanonymous No.]

>>15695804
Party Rockets GT
the group formerly known as Party Rockets

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71wsurKJRxU

[Anonymous No.]

>>15695448
I know Babbymetal is literally babby's first idol group to you normies, but they aren't a "heavy dance" anything, at best they are cheap vocalists for a back band.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15683553
Indie idols are usually made to work 14-16 hours a day, performing up to 4 shows in different livehouses. Add dance practice, recording songs, rehearsing for oneman lives and their schedule will begin to pack up.

Established groups don't get it better: AKB48's documentaries always show you the members collapsing/passing out backstage right in front of the cameras due to the sheer amount of schedules they have to endure. At least the japanese industry has a law preventing minors from working after 9pm; it's commonplace for kpop idols to sleep 2-3 hours per day, even less when they are actively promoting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15683081
Ah, the wonders of capitalism!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15702112
They could always get a real job, you know

[Anonymous No.]

>>15689914
There's no point in working hard to move the dial on the chance meter from 0% to 0.0001%. People who dedicate a good portion of their lives to other people aren't going to give a shit about thesmelves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15689914
There's not that much point in working hard to move the dial on the chance meter from 0% to 0.0001%.

>>15681894
>Why are most idol otaku so disgusting when the culture revolves around hard working girls that give it their all?
People who spend a great deal of their time living vicariously through others aren't going to give a shit about themselves. This probably applies to some degree to other otaku as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15707248
That's not the point, people in "real jobs" can be underpaid and exploited too

[Anonymous No.]

>>15710452
Those are often poor man's jobs though, people who don't have realistic choice. I don't think idol is like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15687207
Idols are still pressured to remain celibate through their careers even though its not against the law for them to date. That one idol that shaved her head out of shame once everyone found out she was secretly seeing a guy comes to mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15721799
t. Meme tier expert

[Anonymous No.]

>>15721828
ok little man

[Anonymous No.]

>>15707248
Spending all your waking hours, and quite a few you should be sleeping, working for your company is the Japanese way of life. That's one of the main reasons the Japanese birth rate is falling. After it became common for women also to join the workforce, there's simply no time to raise a child.

The Japanese have a word for working yourself to death. Karoshi. Google it. Even people in their 20s die from this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15721799
Minegishi Minami from AKB48.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15721799
Come on, if you followed idols you would know that is highly unusual. She did it as a personal choice, probably partly because she saw it as potential attention source. Also she most likely liked her job and wanted to do a traditional apology for her "misdeed" (by this act she got back her innocence, on some symbolic level).

Other idols that get caught just go "deal with it", and the company complies and the thing gets sweeped under the carpet. Others leave as if their idol career was just fun distraction, or an attempt to use idol as stepping stone into entertainment business, or say , modeling (possibly successful even if their idol career ended prematurely). It's very case by case and it's more about maintaining an image, in the proverbial stage they're playing in than problem with women's treatment. Not to say there isn't plenty of those problems, but I don't think this is a clear example, as there is many aspects of make-believe in the idol business.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15722141

Is she the eternal idol? When will she retire?