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Visual Novel translation status


Amagami - 1st day patch Released for PS2/PSP, "1587/2308 original edition scenario scripts translated (68.7%)"
>AstralAir - prologue patch released, 47049/64880 (72.52%) lines translated
Ayakashi Gohan - 49% complete
Black Wolves Saga: All scripts translated and edited 59/65 through TLC
Clover Day's - Common + 2 routes done, other routes + 348/711 KB, 92/764, and 74/722 KB translated
HaraKano - Ayana Seno's route patch released
Haruka Na Sora - Sora 11.29% translated, Kozue 23.73% translated
Harumade Kururu - 100% of the initial harem route translated
>Hoka no Onna - 72.39% translated
Irotoridori no Sekai - 3101/50663 (6%) lines translated
Ken ga Kimi: 116/122 scripts translated, 108/122 scripts edited
Kiminozo - Common route translation complete, Haruka route 1st pass complete
Koiken Otome - 100% translated, 88.90% edited, prologue patch released
Kurukuru Fanatic - 87.5% translated
>Lovely Cation- 31.6% of lines completed
Majikoi A-1 - 64%
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - Commie project actively in editing
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - 2nd project with 2.2 scripts translated
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - 3rd project released ch 1-5
Monster girl quest paradox - Being translated, another partial patch released
Muv Luv Total Eclipse - 25% translated
Nursery Rhyme - 12032/32977 lines translated
Oreimo Tsuzuku - All scripts translated, 202/268 through TLC+Editing, 136/268 scripts finalized
Rewrite Harvest Festa - 22583/30040 (75.18%) lines translated
SakuSaku - 100% translated and edited, 48% through TLC
Sukimazakura to Uso no Machi - 8,448 / 30,513 Lines (27.7%) translated, partial patch released
>Tokyo Necro - Project starting
Witch's Garden - 47555/67201 (70.77%) lines translated, 2496/67201 (3.71%) edited, prologue patch released
Yosuga no Sora - Translation status is Common route 100%, Sora route 100%, Nao 100%, Kazuha 100%, Akira 89.73%, Motoka 32.17%, Common and Kazuha fully edited

>> No.14982400

Official work

MangaGamer
Tokyo Babel - 3/31 release
OZMAFIA - 4/29 release
Higurashi Hou -Tatarigoroshi: 100% TL+ED
Bokuten - 79% translated, 50% edited
Da Capo 3 - 83% translated, 79.3% edited
House in Fata Morgana - 100% translated and edited
Myth - 94% translated, 81% edited
My Boss Wife is My Ex - In testing
Kuroinu - Being released as 3 seperate chapters, 35% TL 18.13% edited
Supipara - Ch 1 in testing
Himawari - TL and editing finished, in scripting
Umineko - Picked up
Negai no Kakera - 51% translated
Princess Evangile W Happiness - 25.36% translated, 10.6% edited
>Imouto Paradise 2 - Picked up


JAST
Seinarukana- Golden master
Flowers - demo released, delayed
Sumeragi Ryoko - Beta, in preorder
Sonicomi - Summer release
Sweet Home - 66% translated
Sumaga- Fully translated, in editing
Trample on Schatten- Translation 86%
Django - Waiting on translation.


Sekai/Denpa
Root Double - Kickstarter succeeded, planned March release
Fault Milestone 2 - Side Above released, GE still to come
Grisaia trilogy - 2nd title 100% translated, in editing
Narcissu 3rd - TL+Editing done
Narcissu 0 - in TLC
WEE 3 - 40.36% translated
Nenokami - 45.48% translated
Mayoi Hitsuji no Kajuen - 100% translated
Darekoi - 15.77% translated
Kokonoe Kokoro - picked up
Memory's Dogma - Kickstarter reached goal
Chrono Clock - Picked up
Tenshin Ranman - Picked up
Witch Boy - Kickstarter failed
Wagamama High Spec - 2016 release
Hoshizora no Memoria - picked up
>Ley Line - picked up
>Maitetsu - picked up



Other
Magical Eyes - 3/31 release
Harmonia - Through Steam GL
Little Busters - Picked up
Tomoyo After - Picked up
Muv Luv Trilogy - Extra release in March, Unlimited by early May
>Schwarzesmarken - on Greenlight
SubaHibi - Official release planned
Lucky Dog - Possible iOS released based on the ongoing text only fanTL
Work being done on a fanTL of Shin Koihime with hopes of getting it licensed
Wish Tale of the Sixteenth Night - 6764/10293 (65.71%) lines translated
Kyuuketsu Hime no Libra - Kickstarter succeeded
>Zero Time Dilemma - June 28th release
ChuSingura46+1 - Kickstarter Canceled
Sora wo Aogite Kumo Takaku - Through Greenlight
Corona Blossom - English release planned
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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread

>> No.14982464
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Trains!

>> No.14982491

Shocked to see SP pick up Maitetsu... Hopefully a good team would work on it, hopefully.. Well, the 2 year hype begins.

>> No.14982514

Is Maitetsu even good, or is it just pedobait?

>> No.14982540

>>14982514
Its good... and nothing wrong with pedobait

>> No.14982600

>>14982514

It's shit.

>> No.14982767

>Bishoujo Mangekyou - 303,5 kB/710 kB (42,7%)

>> No.14982775

2 pictures in the OP and they're both for SP, instead of 1 SP 1 MG. Well, I know OP's real identity now.
By the way, look forward to greening Dracu Riot since the release is THIS WEEK. In 5 fucking days!

>> No.14982785

>>14982775

Maybe if MG announced something other than shit at that convention ...

>> No.14982787

>>14982785
Call ImoPara shit one more time, dovac. I fucking dare you.

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>>14982775
>Dracu-Riot

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>> No.14982905

>tokyo necro
makoto save us! can not even the dead know peace from this evil?

>> No.14982929

Sekai Project literally FLAGGED a review that was critical of their business practices and sent their army of sycophants to harass the user who posted it.

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198098243009/recommended/426690/

All because a negative review actually made it to the top. Can this company possibly get any shittier?

>> No.14982933

>>14982787

ImoPara is shit. Anybody who likes it has shit taste.

>> No.14982935

>>14982514
I'd say it's pretty damn good at being pedobait.
What the fuck would you be doing here if you aren't a lolicon anyway

>> No.14982940

>>14982929
The steam review system is irreparably broken. Nobody of sound mind uses it for any sort of purchasing decision.

>> No.14982945

>>14982933
t. Dovac

>> No.14982949

>>14982945
>t.

I keep seeing this. What does it even mean?

>> No.14982964

>>14982949
It's an /int/ meme. Some Finnish word that is basically the equivalent of "Sincerely," suggesting the poster is signing their name.

>> No.14982966

>>14982514
It's probably good and pedobait at the same time, but most of the people who bought it and will buy the eng version will be pedos.


I wonder why MG decided to stay so low for this con. SP went all out and now they're getting all the hype and media coverage early while nobody hears or gives a shit about anything MG. The hard release of free friends was absolutely not con-announcement worthy as a announcement. That sort of thing is like a side mention.

Now that Imopara 2 is confirmed, what are the remaining possible titles based on the hints given on the poll results?

>> No.14982989

>>14982935
>What the fuck would you be doing here if you aren't a lolicon anyway

Enjoying all the VNs with heroines who aren't lolis, you fucking retard.

That aside, it's guaranteed that this will be an all-ages release. So if the main draw of it is the hot loli sex, and SP strips that out, there won't be anything left worth reading. Thus my question of whether or not it's good enough to stand on it's own without the ero.

>> No.14982990

>>14982966
>I wonder why MG decided to stay so low for this con
Because its the way they were working for many years. All worthy announcements happen in summer, at big cons.

>> No.14982997

>>14982989
Sex is never worth reading in a VN. When we say it's good we're referring to the story.

That said, SP's translation of it is going to suck, so this is essentially wasted time.

>> No.14983008

>>14982966
They dropped a pretty obvious hint that they're doing Dies Irae.

>> No.14983018

>>14982990
>Implies they've had worthy announcements to make each year for years when it was only the last 1 maybe 2.

>> No.14983022

>>14983018
Shut your fucking mouth. They've had big announcements each year for the past five years at least.

>> No.14983025

>>14983008

Dovac will announce Dies Irae tomorrow.

>> No.14983029

>>14983022

You're talking out your ass.

>> No.14983042

>>14982933>>14982949>>14983025>>14983029
Your shilling is so fucking pathetic and obvious. dovac is now hiring random hobos to stema?

>> No.14983047

>>14983042
It's just Dovac himself making all the posts.

>> No.14983050

Fucking dovac ruining lolis for everyone.

>>14982787
>imopara
>Imouto Paradise
>all heroines except one have cowtits
Fuck that shit

>> No.14983053

>>14983042

You forgot your trip.

And you're right, MG were well known as distributors of mainly nukige because of the quality announcements they made at Summer cons.

>> No.14983067

>>14983042
I posted >>14982949. How did you get dovac from that? Plus, I actually think he's shit.

>> No.14983069

Fucking eop are flooding over here go back to >vn

>> No.14983073

>>14983069
t. EOP

>> No.14983075

>>14983069

/VN/ has gone to shit, so JOPs over there told everyone to come over here ...

>> No.14983085

>>14983069
バカ外人ね~

>> No.14983097

>>14982775
That April Fools' day release isn't suspicious at all.

>> No.14983129

>>14983067

Ya looking for logic in the wrong place, my friend.

>> No.14983219

>Tokyo Necro - Project starting
By whom?

>> No.14983229
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Haruka has reseated itself on top of the sales chart this week and by my estimates is likely to be closing in on 1.5k. Ozmafia aswell seems to have had a pretty strong opening, and is probably at 250ish sales. I wonder if that will have any impact on Steam Performance, as there are no steam keys, and it has taken a good chunk of sales that would have helped potentially propel the title up the best sellers list?

Top 5 Ranking: http://pastebin.com/sfF3qxbN
Popularity Sort: http://pastebin.com/P9uQ3t2U
Full Data Point List: http://pastebin.com/4feCJGFj

As always, this tracker is powered by anonymous like you, so post order numbers if you've got em'.

>> No.14983562

>>14982767
You need to stop fucking finnish.

>> No.14983616

>Wasting a slot for Free Friends hardcopy and lesbian drama CD.
Meanwhile SP destroy the chance of seeing Monobeno in english and even get to sell Kohaku awful translation.

How does Furifure even get a hardcopy ? If you can make hardcopy for Noesis title then what the fuck are you waiting for making a hardcopy of InnoGrey titles. Real fucking visual novel. A lot of people don't want to buy Cartagra and KnS2 because they are waiting for a hardcopy to go with KnS1. I swear MG fucking suck at marketing.

>> No.14983636

>>14983616
>How does Furifure even get a hardcopy ?
It sold enough copies, while KnS/Cartagra didn't.
Market wants ImoPara and Furifre, they don't need edgy "story" stuff.

>> No.14983677

>>14983636
You didn't read Furifure if you think it's not edgy. It's as edgy as "story" stuff can be, they are from the same studio. ImoPara is on the light side of ero so it's a given that vanillafags and imoutofags are waiting for this type of nukige. So ImoPara isn't a surprise but Furifure getting a HC while nobody fucking care is surprising. A bad surprise and a wasted candidate for hardcopy.

>> No.14983772

>>14983229
So Haruka doing well should give us Escalyer next year

>> No.14983804

>>14983636

This is why the VN community is a fucking laughing stock.

People want Furifure? Fucking hell.

>> No.14983807

>>14983772
Or Oyako Rankan ?

>> No.14983812

>>14983804
>People want Furifure?
Yes.
Unlike spam from angry vocal minorities, sales numbers don't lie.

>> No.14983831

>>14983812

And that is why the VN community is a fucking laughing stock.

>> No.14983852

>>14983812
>sales numbers don't lie.
You don't know and you will never know how the sales were anon. MG don't publish these things.

>> No.14983981

>>14983050
In 1, only 2/5 had cowtits.

>> No.14984034

>>14983981
I was talking about 2. Guess I should have put that 2 there.

>> No.14984050

Maitetsu and not Monobeno?

What?

>> No.14984060

Is the vn community dead?

Eop People are extremely excited with imouto paradise 2 and Free friends the announcement.

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>>14984060
>extremely excited

Read the thread before posting.

>> No.14984105

>>14983812
>>14983852

I actually think freefriends is something special, as far as hardcopies are concerned. I highly doubt it's sold more than 1k.

Sales data from that far back is limited but, we can make a few assumptions.

Mangagamer's order number total was 33030 on 5/5
Freefriends went up for preorder on 5/22.
A bundle occurred on 5/28 with a potential of 7528 codes. Let's split the difference since it was the highest tier and call it 3764.
We have an order number one day after the bundle launched for 34913. A good chunk of that was probably bundle sales, but let's ignore that and run the usual math to say that at the point in time free friends has 470 sales. From this point on until mikan launched, we have 5562 orders. When we remove the bundle orders, we have 1798. Assuming it was the number one seller aside from bundles that entire time, that's another 450 sales max. After that, we have chart data that shows it not charting further. That's 920 sales, and that's a very generous estimate. With that in mind, you can also take it into account that it failed to make the top 10 best sellers of the year, and I'd estimate the bottom of that chart is probably in the 700-800 range.

Basically I'd say that mangagamer probably did a smaller order run for free friends. It's not up for preorder on jast either, so maybe they're using a new company that gave them a better deal?

>> No.14984114

>>14984060
I would say the Sekai Project/Winged Cloud steam market has taken over much of the community now. /vn/ is more reddit and Fuwanovel than 4chan these days. Just the other day, someone unironically recommended YMK.

>> No.14984191

>>14984105

Also, for further fuel on that argument, if freefriends truly was an impressive sales success, then mikan and euphoria are even bigger successes by extension, as we know they sold more.

In reality though, if I were to simply pull a number out of my ass, I'd say it probably sold 600ish copies and mangagamer only had a hundred or two hardcopies printed.

>> No.14984268

Wow, Sekai Project really did not announce anything of interest, huh? I hope nobody's seriously excited about that.

>> No.14984279

>>14983804
>>14983831
>This is why the VN community is a fucking laughing stock.
>And that is why the VN community is a fucking laughing stock.

Would you stop spamming this? Nobody fucking cares what you think.

>> No.14984294

>>14984114
The fuck is wrong with YMK?

>> No.14984304

>>14984050
You should have realized by now that SP only ever gets the scraps from the "big" companies. They're always struggling companies who maybe had a success in the past but are desperate to make a profit off their new games. Do you know how little Maitetsu sold? It's not good. They will never give Monobeno to SP. They only intend to attempt to change the narrative about Maitetsu.

>> No.14984306

>>14984279

What makes you think I fucking care what YOU think?

>> No.14984317

>>14984304
Is this a joke attempt?

Maitetsu sold amazingly in Japan. I know cause I was there two days ago, seeing the lines.

Or maybe you're mistaking Maitetsu for Shoujotachi wa Kouya wo Mezasu? That's considered a disappointment and Japanese buyers are pretty unhappy.

The reason you EOP pals aren't getting Monobeno is you can't really take away the sexuality from Monobeno, it has sex in the main story, as a plot point in some routes. Even in the Vita version the sex happens, just offscreen. Maitetsu just has it all as separate H scenes, it can be sanitized easily. Although it's still debatable if some English internet circles won't make a fuss about it anyway.

>> No.14984325

>>14984306
What makes you think any of us care what you think? Fuck off, nobody wants to see your dumbass posts.

>> No.14984335

>>14984317
The ONLY reason we're getting Maitetsu is because some dipshit is working on a machine translation and Sekai figured they could sell that.

>> No.14984348

>>14984335
How when it came out two days ago and the trial a wekk before that?

When was the machine translation made? You mean on Friday 18th of March the trial came out, on Sunday someone started a machine translation and during the following week the Lose instantly agreed for an English release?

Perhaps use your brain a little before you post.

>> No.14984352

>>14984317
We aren't getting Monobeno because nobody have the balls to translate a fucking huge and risky loli title in the west. Be it Jast or MG.
Furthermore fantl is dead and there is no competent person who can translate something this big.

>> No.14984360

>>14984348
Sekai was already negotiating for it before it came out. They just got lucky that someone "just so happened" to be working on the machine translation. And yeah, I know what you're thinking. Was it really a coincidence? Of course not. Sekai told them right off, start this translation and we'll buy it off you. We don't care if you know Japanese or not. And you know why? Because they save the money by not hiring any editors. Scummy fucks.

>> No.14984363

>>14984352
Maitetsu can be called risky too. Most of the story is still lolis blushing at you and long explainations about trains.

I guess clueless EOPs on Steam will just see that it moves with e-mote like "muh Nekopara" and buy it without thinking. I still feel bad for the writer. On every prerelease event you could see his passion for trains is absolutely genuine and now his railway love letter will be poorly translated by some Sekai Project schmuck. I hope he at least gets quite some cash from that.

>> No.14984370 [DELETED] 

Nobody gives a shit about you. Fuck off back to /vn/

>> No.14984372

>>14984360
And you're thinking all this happened in the span of one week and Lose agreed to it? When the fact that Sekai Project making teases that turned out to be Maitetsu even before the trial came out proves you're wrong.

At least have some fucking logic to your autism.

>> No.14984381

>>14984372
No, this was in the works for a long time, like you said. They just advertised it through fanTL. You really don't find the timing all too convenient? At least have some logic to YOUR autism.

>> No.14984384

>>14984363
Loli blushing is less risky than "your little sister have her periods for the first time and she's ready to breed" which can be the synopsis of Monobeno.

>> No.14984387

>>14984370
Shut up and go back to Akame ga Kill, tasteless nerd.

>> No.14984389

>>14984381
What fanTL where and when?

No fanTL could even exist until Friday 18th, so why bother with such farce when they officially announce it on 25th?

>> No.14984394

>>14984389
Same reason they put every single one of their games on greenlight.

>> No.14984396

>>14984394
What fanTL where and when?

>> No.14984397 [DELETED] 

>>14984387
How about you Akame ga Kill yourself

>> No.14984401

>>14984384
That's just the premise you read on VNDB, there's actually even more to it.

>> No.14984410 [DELETED] 

>>14984397
How about YOU? Since you're stupid.

>> No.14984412

>>14984401
Didn't know that it was the synopsis on VNDB, i tried to read it with machinetl once and that's what i remember from it. But my comprehension of kanji isn't that good so i need to study more before tackling something like this.

>> No.14984416

>>14984396
The one that was announced on the 18th.

https://www.google.com/search?q=maitetsu+fan+tl

Do I hae to do everything for you?

>> No.14984421

>>14984412
Machine TL is always horrible, save yourself from it by learning Japanese. Well, you're already doing it so good luck.

>> No.14984423

>>14984416
I don't see anything like that. So yes, do everything for me. Or rather just stay quiet already. Close the tab and all is gone.

>> No.14984424 [DELETED] 

>>14984401
>>14984412
Most people don't even talk about the best part. There's this one character in particular, AND HIS NAME IS JOHN CENA!.

>> No.14984435 [DELETED] 

>>14984423
*sigh* What does it matter when you deny everything? You've probably denied the holocaust at some point. The fact is, Sekai Project picked up a BAD fan TL and they're gonna ruin another good game.

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>>14984424
That fucking spoiler.

>> No.14984446

>>14984435
Yeah, I knew you had nothing. I just can't understand how small and pitiful you have to be to not just close the damn tab when it became clear you were wrong. Seek some help for your ego I guess.

Sekai Project is gonna ruin Maitetsu with their own bad TL.

>> No.14984489

>>14984435
>>14984424
Bad posts.

>> No.14984536

>>14984435
Dude just let it go.

>> No.14984538

>>14984114
I can understand being pissed at how the west just wants moege, but I hope you're aware that before KS, *everyone* recommended YMK as babby's first VN.

>> No.14984624

>>14984435
I'm not sure what rational holocaust revisionism has to do with Sekai Project being awful.

>> No.14984630

I wonder about who will port the engine of Imopara 2, because ahem... in Canada they're protected by law.

>> No.14984662

>>14984624
>rational
hahaha whatever that makes you sleep /pol/-chan

>> No.14984721

>>14982966
>I wonder why MG decided to stay so low for this con.
It's only Anime Boston and Sakura Con, they aren't the major cons.

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>>14984662
How come Auschwitz had a pool available for inmate use and even had monthly puppet shows for kids?

How come no Zyklon B was ever found in the alleged gas chambers, despite intense, rigorous forensic testing?

How come only camps inspected by the Soviet Union were implicated in a genocide?

How come the Soviet Union never made public their findings on the four camps that only they inspected which would later be the only camps implicated in the genocide?

How come the over a dozen camps inspected by the allies were all definitively proven to have never had any executions occur?

How come the military peddled rumours like soap made of humans and lampshades made of skin which were later definitively proven false?

How come no mass graves were ever discovered?

How did the nazis manage to incinerate over 6 million corpses in three years using 1940s technology if there were no mass graves, an impossible feat for no less than one hundred modern crematoriums?

How come the allies never intercepted a single transmission about a jewish genocide despite the fact that Alan Turing had cracked all the nazi codes including those going two and from the SS, military generals and Hitler that resulted in allied victory?

Why would Hitler waste money feeding, clothing, transporting and housing jews just to kill them with valuable gas over many, many years, during wartime when resources were precious and limited instead of just having them gunned down by the army?

How was pic related, the gas chamber door at Auschwitz, able to form an insulated gas chamber from which people could not escape?

Wake up, sheeple.

Also Unit 731 didn't happen either but Nanking did.

>> No.14984750

>>14984742
>but Nanking did.
Crazy talk.

>> No.14984763

>>14982966
>what are the remaining possible titles based on the hints given on the poll results

Purple could mean Sona-nyl.
An HD release, provided they meant 1080p, likely means Iwaihime.
The orange hints could still mean the expanded editions of Shuffle and Soul Link, with Steam versions of course.
The fantasy hint could be Kyonyuu Fantasy.
It's almost guaranteed we'll see Supipara 2 by the end of summer.
Another SonoHana game is likely, given the one they started with, it's likely going to be Maidens of Michael.
An Alicesoft title, hopefully Rance, but it could be just about anything.
And another Propeller title, I'd guess Ayakashibito or Bullet Butlers, since they both have all-ages PSP versions. There's also their crossover fandisc, Chrono Belt.

>> No.14984787

>>14983677
Free Friends would be an easy sell at cons, like Harem Party and Boob Wars were. MG even said that story titles like Kara no Shoujo were a tougher sell at cons and they had to put alot more effort in to get people to buy it.

>> No.14984809

>>14982966
Have you seen their past years announcements? They never have anything good for the first half of the year. The whole "NukigeGamer" thing is because they usually have three nukiges for Anime Boston and Fanime.

In fact, A-kon 2015 had three announcements, Kuroinu, Go Go Nippon 2015 and No Thank You hard copy.

>> No.14984866

>>14984763
And a moege or 2. Something from MOONSTONE or similar.

>> No.14984922
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Someone's secret project

>> No.14984935

>>14984922
That's going to be Sekai's.

>> No.14984946

>>14984935
I wouldn't be surprised if MG licenses it. Their staff is working on a number of secret projects.

>> No.14984959

>>14984922
What is that?

>> No.14984963

>>14984922>>14984959
Boku to Koi Suru Ponkotsu Akuma

I really don't see how Sekai could do it. This isn't Nekopara with three short sex scenes removed. The very first scene has MC whipping out his sphinx in front of all the girls, there's a ton of sex jokes and innuendos, more than a third of every route is spent on sex, girls go on dates to a sex shop, all the drama is resolved by sex... It is a nukige through and through and SP won't go for it if they can't put it on Steam.

>> No.14985024

>start typing the meme I created, Albatross Sky Butlers, into google
>google suggests "albatross ski butlers"

Fucking Google. You had one job.

How did it even turn into Albatross Ski Butlers? Did someone defile my meme? I haven't been watching the scene.

>> No.14985028
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>>14985024

just sounds like google being google

>> No.14985029 [DELETED] 

>>14984489
You know what? I'd let that slide, but you forgot about one important thing. JOHN CENA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.14985121

>>14983616
>Real fucking visual novel
If people actually bought 'Real fucking visual novels' things would be different. Too few care enough to give their money to serious VNs and too many spend their spare money on VNs more focused on porn.

>> No.14985142

>>14984922
>>14984963
>Boku to Koi Suru Ponkotsu Akuma
>Artist is Sayori
Oh damn. Is the ero good?

>> No.14985148

>>14985142
What's stopping you from looking at the CG rip on sadpanda?

>> No.14985175

>>14985148
I'd rather hear see the CGs, hear the VA moaning but yeah, if need be, I'll look at the gallery.

>> No.14985198

>>14985175
I get you completely, but no need to abuse the spoiler function for that.

>> No.14985232

>>14985142
It's basically Nekopara on steroids. Funnier, lewder and cuter. 5 scenes per heroine, some are animated.

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>>14985232
>Funnier, lewder and cuter.

Sounds great.

>> No.14985300

>>14985242
Which is why I requested it in Mangagamer's survey. Funnily enough last year I requested Tokyo Babel so I'm pretty confident it will be localized.

>> No.14985307

>>14984763
It won't be Rance

>> No.14985308

>>14985300
Sounds like they like you. What else you vote for this year?

>> No.14985331

>>14985307
Thanks Haro, glad to know the rest of my list is right.

>> No.14985365

>>14985308
Silverio Vendetta and Bishoujo Mangekyou.

>> No.14985399

>>14985365
>>14985300
You have good taste.

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>>14985399
Thank you.

>> No.14985552

>>14984763
Lol if people got pissed at Gahkthun's repetition they're gonna rip sona nyl apart. At least Sona Nyl can pass off as a Otome game which could get sales from girls

>> No.14985563

>>14985552
How can anybody read Inganock and not expect more of the same?

>> No.14985584

>>14983219
by an ESL, don't get your hopes up

>> No.14985586

>>14985563
I don't know about you but Inganock was a completely different experience from Sona Nyl to me. Sona-Nyl is basically Steampunk series on max steroids. Plus, the unvoiced parts will look fucking lame in English.

>> No.14985592

>>14985586
I meant the use of repetition.

>> No.14986318

http://store.steampowered.com/app/445730/

Finally. A visual novel for the common man.

>> No.14986326

#tlwiki confirmed Aroduc's porting Baldr Force into Sky's engine.

>> No.14986344

>>14984809

No, the whole 'nukige' thing is because traditionally their line up is dominated by nukige with one or two story titles breaking things up.

That only changed a year ago?

>> No.14986346

>>14986344

Going by the reception of their story games, they may go back to doing this.

>> No.14986350

Mangagamer got blown out by sekai project. Will anything ever go right for them?

>> No.14986386

>>14986350

Could be worse. Dovac could announce Tsuki ni Yorisou Otome no Sahou tomorrow.

>> No.14986412

>>14986350
Alicesoft.

>> No.14986418

>>14986412
Imagine if Dovac stole the Alicesoft partnership and got Rance.

Non-H Sengoku Rance coming to Steam.

>> No.14986423

>>14986418
Imagine if Dovac got Giga and put Fuwatards on it.

>> No.14986433

>>14986346
They will start to focus more on Steam.

>> No.14986436

>>14986423
You won't need to imagine that for long.

>> No.14986445

>>14986423
You mean like they did for Key and Lose?

>> No.14986478

>>14986433

And if Babel fails on Steam?

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>>14986478

>> No.14986494

>>14986478
MG will be finished

>> No.14986498

>>14986478
They will just copy Sekai with focusing more on finding then licensing and putting out games similar to Nekopara. Is apparently what seems to sell after all.

>> No.14986507

>>14986498

why do people still call mg nukigamer when that's all that actually makes money for sekai, they're just nominally all-ages

>> No.14986510

>>14986478

Go 100% otome.

Corner the otome market.

>> No.14986515

>>14986510
Otome, BL and yuri. They all seem to sell well.

>> No.14986518

>>14986510
Amnesia sold like crap, so it's not a reliable market.

>> No.14986748

I'm not sure if this is new but a secon tl group (from facepook) is translating Aokana in 5 languages and will release a common route path by April 20th and the final translation for september.
Maybe this isn't fake but if they're faster (x2 +(x5=languages)) than Ixrec then this probably will be one of the worst engrish/chinese/whatever machine-translations since hmm... Flyable Heart?

>> No.14986773

>>14986748
This is pretty funny. Why fail in only one language when you can fail them all?

>> No.14986795

>>14986748
>5 languages
I guess it isn't hard to click and change the language in the drop down box in Google translate.

>> No.14987258

>>14983050
>being this much of an autistic pedo

Oppai imoutos are literally god-tier, stop being an actual pedophile with shit taste

>> No.14987287

https://twitter.com/dobacco/status/714185118680637440
> dovac
> being human
pls.

>> No.14987343

>>14987287
Maybe he shouldn't invite it by being a massive colossal faggot. He should have a cup of concrete and harden up.

>> No.14987448

>>14987258

Literally sewer-tier.

>> No.14987464

>>14987287
I seriously want to know what the fuck is wrong with him.

>> No.14987496

>>14987464

Nothing much, actually. Although sometimes I wonder how bored people must be to target him all day. Then I suddenly remember what this place is ...

>> No.14987500

>>14987464
Give an attention whore a victim complex and put him in charge of a company he doesn't know how to run and that's how you get Dovac.

Because professionalism is overrated, everyone knows the way to succeed in business these days is for your CEO to be a twitter e-celeb.

>> No.14987604

>>14987500
Professionalism matters exactly as much as your business associates care, which is often not much in this brave new world.

>> No.14987659

>>14987496

hi dovac

>> No.14987679

>>14987287
He's probably the one that got the previous posts deleted.

>> No.14987704

>>14987659

You forgot your trip.

>> No.14987708

>>14987464
Dovac runs into problems because he is combative and often vents publicly on twitter (and formerly other locations). Additionally, he feels everyone should be happy about how Sekai Project (and him in particular) has handled things, and can get quickly annoyed when people disagree. With regards to this, he often tries to make (likely correct) economic arguments to try to convince someone with no economic stake in Sekai Project to approve of his decision on something because such disagreement bugs him personally. It also can bug him when people aren't happy with the official company line, thinking that just because he says "we can't answer now", that once said discussion should stop, or how no one heavily involved in the community treats Denpasoft as an independent project separate unrelated to Sekai Project. It is fair to say he has improved somewhat, if only by limiting where he vents to twitter instead of all over the place and how upset he gets over certain issues, but he still has the same basic problem.

>> No.14987714

>>14987708
No part of this involves constantly acting like a victimized twelve year old.

>> No.14987720

>>14987708

Yeah, he doesn't deal well with stress it seems. Understandable.

>> No.14987728

>>14987708
Don't forget that his constant history of throwing temper tantrums, or how he offered hosting and then kicked everyone off it because they didn't agree with his glorious vision of how things are supposed to be.

>> No.14987742

>>14987704
Hi dovac.

>> No.14987744

>>14987708
How he improving when he tries to get rid of negative (and true) Steam reviews?

>> No.14987752

>>14987742

You forgot your trip.

>> No.14987772

How come mangagamer can survive off of 1,500 sales of a game?

1,500 * $30 (Some games are even cheaper than that) = $45,000. That's not even enough to pay one programmer for 3/4 of a year, not to mention license costs and everything else.

Also, is Aroduc/anybody ever going to translate more eushully games? The gameplay on those is fun :3

>> No.14987777

>>14987772

Because they used to pay their staff poorly. Not sure what the case is these days.

>> No.14987783

>>14987772
You've got the assholes at Nekohen running them all through machine translators now. It's only a matter of time before Dovac tries to release them.

>> No.14987787

>>14987772
At the moment, only because they release like 10-15 games a year.

>> No.14987790

>>14987772
It doesn't take a programmer 9 months, to do literally anything with these things. And if they pay the translator around $10k, $5k for two editors each, and let's say $5k for the programmer (all of these are too high for most MG games because they tend to be shorter), that's still $20k split between them and the Japanese company.

>> No.14987812

>>14987772
If you must know, it's because doddler works for cheap because he loves VNs. Of course everybody at MG is but at his skill level, he should be making a lot more. If he has to rely on MG, he would starve. He does this in addition to his full time job.

>> No.14987849

>>14987708
I have no ax to grind with dovac but he hasn't exactly earned my goodwill either. For that he has to deliver what has been promised.

>> No.14987973

>>14983097
It's tradition

>> No.14987988

Only for Aroduc.

>> No.14987999

Oh boy, I sure am looking forward to all-ages Maitetsu.

>> No.14988061

>>14987999
fuck off pedo

>> No.14988085

>>14987708
There's no justification for releasing 18+ Grisaia six months after the non-H version when there was already a patch for the 18+ release. Just none.

>> No.14988117

Dovac is actually in a really strong market position. If you were to ask japanese developers about localization companies they know of, they'd turn up only Sekai project largely due to their very public kickstarters. That in turn is getting companies to approach them, rather than the other way around. Mangagamer isn't even on their radar.

>> No.14988132

>>14988117
Sekai wasn't the first localization company Lose approached. It was craziest one to actually accept this game with these license terms.

>> No.14988170

>>14988061
>any true lolicon
>looking forward to a butchered version of the lolige of the year
At most they'll get a few sales from normalfags who thought the art looked good and retards who think they're supporting Lose. Bullying them by saying that the original game has plenty of porn with those childish looking characters will be fun.

>> No.14988185

>>14988085
Considering the numerous Denpasoft releases since, and that G-Senjou is a very safe title to release 18+, it's believable that the original developer is at fault. That said, Sekai Project could sure as hell have made it clearer if that is the situation.

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So does porn sell or not?

>compared to steam and the money it costs for our other site to be maintained it's not worth it

>> No.14988193

>>14988189
Then don't choose porn heavy titles and gut them.

>> No.14988239

>>14988189
There's something distasteful about the sense of entitlement dovac has, as if customers owe him. No, kid, its the other way around. You have to show us something worth buying. Not demand that we show you that we are worth selling to.

>> No.14988250 [DELETED] 

Whats the point of hating public figures like Dovac? It doesn't make their work any better or make you any happier. Just learn Japanese and never have to deal with anybody in the localization industry ever again. Especially Peter Payne.

>> No.14988252 [DELETED] 

>>14988250
That takes work.

>> No.14988283 [DELETED] 

>>14988250
It makes dovac react and make ass out of himself, which is funny.

>> No.14988294 [DELETED] 

>>14988252
You call it work but it's much more fun than arguing on twitter or whatever.

>> No.14988313 [DELETED] 

>>14988250
People don't wake up and decide to hate somebody that day. It's a natural reaction to someone being scummy.

>> No.14988319 [DELETED] 

>>14988250
But I know Japanese already. Yumina was my last translated VN.
There's nobody to discuss things I read, while tl scene drama is fun and common subject.

>> No.14988336

>>14988117
MG said they had to turn away potential titles because they didn't have enough staff. I mean, I guess they could try hiring N3s for the shorter titles...

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>>14988250
>Especially Peter Payne.

Wat. Peter was the one of the first people to believe in the potential of translated VNs. He even licensed old as fuck VNs. His biggest problem is HR. He just needs to hire one more person with management skills.

>> No.14988353

>>14988336

Like JAST did with Flowers?

>> No.14988357

>>14988353
Hey, he was beyond N1 and onto native-level Japanese. His English, however...

>> No.14988372

>>14988357

oO

Didn't MG made that mistake YEARS ago? I assumed the industry had moved past that.

>> No.14988378

>>14988357
>onto native-level Japanese
There's no way anyone who know Japanese could make some of those mistakes.
That "shout" line is something only compete newbie at Japanese could do.

>> No.14988386

>>14988378
Oh, I thought it was a native Japanese person with shitty English translating. Never mind, then.

>> No.14988388

>>14988372
JAST has been full retard for 20 years, why change now?

>> No.14988404

http://www.1uptranslations.com/en/localization-blog/2016/3/confessions-of-a-game-translator-12-actual-reasons-why-some-game-translations-suck

Since we're on this topic, your thoughts?

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>>14988250
>Whats the point
It's not as if I ever really chose to. It's just that the way they've been acting I haven't exactly been able not to.

>> No.14988409 [DELETED] 

>>14988352
He needs to hire people in general so things actually come out. The Flowers translation was also bad oversight. Probably hired a random dude without testing him and never talked to him ever again.

>> No.14988410

>>14988404

Management issues and real world problems, mostly. Most of them are common sense.

>> No.14988416 [DELETED] 

>>14988408

Cop out statement. The way you feel is a choice, nobody else forces you to feel the way you do. I stopped reading at 'it's not as if I ever really chose to,' because that's a blatant lie aimed at shifting blame, which means your post is worthless.

>> No.14988419 [DELETED] 

>>14988416
And it's your choice to ignore our drama-loving ways if you don't like it.

>> No.14988423 [DELETED] 

>>14988419

Which I do on a regular basis. What's the point of your post? I'm not saying 'I don't like what you just posted', I'm saying 'what you posted was flat out wrong, and deceptive' which is a different issue.

>> No.14988424 [DELETED] 

>>14988423
What's the point of your post? Just to tell people their posts are pointless? Okay, now fuck off.

>> No.14988425

>>14988404
Most of it is on the mark but it all comes down to either management being incompetent or the translator being incompetent. Or both.

Unsurprising that it includes the old 'It's localization so your complaints about accuracy are irrelevant' though.

>> No.14988426 [DELETED] 

>>14988416
>The way you feel is a choice
No it's not. Are you some kind of enlightened Tibetan monk or what? Either way other people aren't.
Emotions aren't a choice, they're a reaction. Circumstances and your state of mind certainly affects them, but they're still in no way a choice. If they were indeed a choice, there wouldn't be entire industries built around trying to manipulate and affect them. People would just choose to feel good than to pay money for psychologists and whatever else.

>> No.14988441 [DELETED] 

>>14988426

Only half true. What you feel in the short term is, mostly, out of our hands but what we feel long term, and this is well known by psychologists, is governed by our choices. Once we recognise we hate something, whether we choose to continue hating that thing is very much within your control. Any attempt to say otherwise, on trivial issues like this, will most likely come from spoilt brat bitches who don't want to accept responsibility for their actions.

>>14988424

No, you missed the point of my post.

And no, I won't fuck off. You don't like that? You know where the door is.

>> No.14988443 [DELETED] 

This >>14988441 is where I stopped reading. The whole post is worthless.

>> No.14988446 [DELETED] 

>>14988443

Stop posting worthless shit and kindly fuck off.

>> No.14988455 [DELETED] 

Whoa, there I just read the post and deemed it worthless. I can't believe some guy is telling people how to feel.

>> No.14988456 [DELETED] 

>>14988409

How does that even work? Wasn't he tested when he was hired?

>> No.14988458 [DELETED] 

>>14988455

Pummel that strawman. Show it what a man you are!

>> No.14988459 [DELETED] 

>>14988458
Please CHOOSE a better emotion.

>> No.14988462 [DELETED] 

>>14988459

No emotion was displayed, just like I didn't tell you what you should feel. What I did say was you're responsible for your emotions, what you feel, and how you act. That is, kindly behave like an adult and not a spoilt, brat kid.

>> No.14988465 [DELETED] 

>>14988462

What a worthless post.

>> No.14988466 [DELETED] 

>>14988465

Another worthless post.

>> No.14988469 [DELETED] 

>>14988459
I thought it was a rather eloquent post (kind of unexpected in this thread!). He could've just made a no-effort statement like "fuck off, retard" instead. It's certainly what I would've done.

>> No.14988472 [DELETED] 

>>14988466
And yet another.

>> No.14988475 [DELETED] 

>>14988472

And another.

>> No.14988478 [DELETED] 

>>14988469
Sorry, emotions are not allowed.

>> No.14988479 [DELETED] 

>>14988475
Indeed.

>> No.14988481 [DELETED] 

>>14988478

A worthless strawman. Such a limp rebuttal from someone who's limp where it matters.

>> No.14988485 [DELETED] 

>>14988479

Quite

>> No.14988487 [DELETED] 

>>14988481
>limp where it matters

When does it doesn't matter?

>> No.14988488 [DELETED] 

>>14988485
Indubitably

>> No.14988489 [DELETED] 

>>14988487

... Good point.

>> No.14988495

>>14988404
Self-serving excuses, completely out of touch with actual consumer concerns. And nintendo's excellent localization? How absurd.

>> No.14988532

>>14988495
Well, other than their philosophy of heavily rewriting scenes, their localizations are very high quality. Her point was that they have localization testers who know the game very well and give feedback about the lines and how they're used in context. They also give plenty of resources and time for the localization. I can certainly believe that.

Most of their core audience don't give a shit about altering the game from the original, so who's to say they're bad localizations because of that?

>> No.14988540

>>14988532
Something like Rune Factory 4 was a huge amount of effort in terms of testing and making sure all the translated lines made sense in the game since the script was just one big list of lines. Nintendo probably has a better workflow and more resources.

http://kotaku.com/getting-jrpgs-out-in-english-is-harder-than-you-think-1441094168
http://archive.is/szjLi

>> No.14988614

>>14988117
Yet Mangagamer actually managed to get a translation deal with Alicesoft which is a fair bit bigger than anything Sekei have done.

Mangagamer can't be too obscure if they managed to get a license from Alicesoft

>> No.14988639

>>14988614

Hopefully Evenicle on the horizon!

>> No.14988656

>>14988639
It's not

>> No.14988757

>>14988239
This times a million.

>> No.14988771

>>14988614
Yeah but that's just Haruka so far.

I really hope MG picked up Ponkotsu Akuma though

>> No.14988955

Rance ___ is already pretty much fully translated as well as progress on other ones. Pretty sure MG already relayed to AliceSoft that the west really wants Rance and have been waiting for year(s).

What I'm most interested in is any new parters that could lead to a ~REAL DEAL~ VN for the west.
Also, now that MG and Navel broke up, we can pretty much say that OreTsuba is not going to officially reach the west any time soon, if ever. The more time passes, the older it gets and more less likely it gets to be picked up. It might get fanlated but can you really trust the quality of translation of prose of ESLs with machines? The trend for localization is now brand new shiny things and simultaneous JP/Eng attempts like Gahkthun(new/shiny), Harmonia from Key and Corona from Frontwing (eng before jp) and Maitetsu, (absolutely brand new, translation announced same day as release). The older things get, the more incompatable they get with newer editions of Windows.

To EOPS out there, if you really want to read aged XXX shilled kamige, you're better off learning JP. If none of the titles revealed at AX are good or interesting, that'd be a perfect time to start.
We still don't even know when Muramasa is going to be un-stalled, and then finished translated, and then stalled again before release like sumaga.
Subahibi has also been in stasis ever since the official deal was made with no word.
Anybody could probably learn japanese and become proficient enough to read something before it gets licensed, translated/edited/scripted, and scheduled for release. You could also then read whatever the hell you want at any time without waiting inbetween. That's probably something many people overlook.

>> No.14988973

>>14988532
>Most of their core audience don't give a shit about altering the game from the original, so who's to say they're bad localizations because of that?
Did you not see the reaction of the latest Fire Emblem? It showed there is a point where even your average person will notice there is a real problem with the localisation if it isn't done right.

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Remember how everyone in this thread wanted 天使のいない12月 translation?

Oh, how the time flies. It was like a half a decade ago.

>> No.14988978

>>14988955
>It might get fanlated but can you really trust the quality of translation of prose of ESLs with machines?

And do you trust the translation of prose to ESLs with machine translation working for Sekai Project.

>> No.14988981

>>14988955
>Subahibi has also been in stasis
Just because you don't see stuff happening publicly, it doesn't mean its in stasis. Mugi is working on legal stuff and checking content with JP side, JP side is working on engine stuff, trying to make tlwiki script work.

>> No.14988989

>>14988955
G-Senjou was 7 years old when picked up. As long as there's fanbase for it, anything can go no matter how old it is.

>> No.14989032

>>14988974
Remember how JAST announced Sumaga?
Remember how JAST announced Seinarukana?
Remember how JAST announced Trample on Schatten?
Remember how JAST announced Kikokugai?
Remember how JAST announced Jingai Makyou?

Oh, how the time flies. It was like a half a decade ago.

>> No.14989036

>>14989032
And still nothing. Lol EOPs honestly. And like this guy said >>14988955, nowadays you'll only get gutted versions of the newest shiny games.

>> No.14989049

>>14988974
As no one wanted to translate it now this game is a official™ /jp/ meme for shitposting in december.

>> No.14989050

>>14989036>>14989032
Seinarukana is already printed, should be delivered to those who preordered within month.

>> No.14989063

>>14989050
I don't think so; probably they first will release it for the normies (aka Steam) with extra content and after the other "normal" physical/digital editions.

>> No.14989212

>>14988955
Yeah, nah, I've moved on from living breathing VNs. There's plenty of other Japanese games that are being localized, more so than ever before.

>> No.14989220

>>14988973
>Did you not see the reaction of the latest Fire Emblem? It showed there is a point where even your average person will notice there is a real problem with the localisation if it isn't done right.
Oh I sure saw that. I also saw how the new FE:F sold 2 or 3 times more copies than the previous FE game. The average consumer doesn't give a shit, rather, they'll buy it to spite the people whining about translations.

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14989292

Remember how 7 years ago people were hyped for Touka Gettan translation.

Now you damn EOPs don't even know what it is. You just got brainwashed by your Moogys into hype for muh Muramasas.

>> No.14989295

How to translate a visual novel?

>> No.14989302

>>14988656
How would you know?

>> No.14989307

>>14989295
Send your resume to MangaGamer, JAST and Sekai Project. Alll of them are in dire need for translators, so if you know Japanese, they will teach the rest.

>> No.14989314

>>14989302
1. Mangagamer don't have the power in the relationship and based on Haruka we can guess that Alicesoft hardly want to bring over their newest games.
2. If Mangagamer had the ability to pick and choose they'd go for Rance because - 1. VI is already mostly translated 2. It won their survey and 3. It would shut up all the malcontents

>> No.14989319

No Sekai/Denpa titles get released before 2017

>> No.14989323

>>14989307
Is there any application which translate the visual novel and we just have to correct the mistakes?

>> No.14989327

>>14988656
Let me guess, it's Daiteikoku. I really hope Alicesoft didn't find out about the AliveZ translation and force MG to take it.

>> No.14989328

>>14982400
>Bokuten - 79% translated, 50% edited
It's admirable that Mangagamer still translates its demented parents titles.
I guess Green Green rerelease was the obituary of Overdrive

>> No.14989329

>>14988189
So, dovac deliberately goes after VNs with sexual content to get a all ages release and then either gives very little priority to such release or just entirely ignores such release. Then he comes out saying he does care about the sexual content and in some cases it's simply impossible to get the version with it.

This really says a lot about the intentions dovac has when he approaches japanese devs. He's pretty much telling them the west doesn't care about it and rather have censored versions.

Why do you think G Senjou didn't get a adult version? Simply because dovac didn't care enough to put effort into getting such version. What about Hoshimeno? Denpa Soft didn't say anything about it and given the loli content, you can pretty much expect a censored version too.

Dovac does this and even comes out saying this shit? Does he simply expect us to think "well, he says he tried so let me give my money to him"? And even if he licenses some VNs with sexual content to release them on Denpa Soft is he saying they sell like shit because he's comparing the numbers with Steam or just because he's having unrealistic expectations and poor market knowledge about these type of VNs?

Fucking hypocrite.

>> No.14989332

>>14989323
That's the editing test.

>> No.14989335

>>14988336
Which is good. Taking everything regardless of your capacity is how you end up with Sekai.
It's like dovac looked at JAST and tried to find ways to make it worse.

>> No.14989340
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>>14989328
Overdrive became a different company, LevoL.
https://vndb.org/p4837

>> No.14989344

>>149893>>14989332
And what's next?

>> No.14989346

>>14989340
Do MG have the contract to tl everything from them or did that end with the switch?

>> No.14989356

>>14989346
Since it's a new company on paper, they'd still need to negotiate with them.

>> No.14989383

>>14984922
Yes, please.

I want my translated lewd mummy loli.

>> No.14989390

>>14989383
>>14989383
Is that even exist?

>> No.14989392

>>14989390
https://vndb.org/c33070

Clearly the best girl.

>> No.14989403

>>14987973
For insem so is releasing a small fraction of what he claims he has fully completed

>> No.14989404

>>14989392
Thank you, I want play that vn

>> No.14989448

>>14989383
>>14989404
Entitled EOPs.

>> No.14989684

>>14989340

What's is the benefit of creating new companies.if you're just going to do the same thing again? To kick out a co-founder?

>> No.14989689

>>14989684
This seems pretty different from their Overdrive games.
Honestly Overdrive should just stick to making music vns.

>> No.14989707

>>14989684
Tax evasion and rebranding to distance yourself from your failures.

>> No.14990063

>>14989403
it will be funny if he would actually release a full patch

>> No.14990089

>>14982940
I use the reviews for negative info. Like censorship, bugs, etc.

If someone says good things, I'll just consider the game to be to their taste and they add nothing of value.

>> No.14990226

>>14988981
Mugi-kun could maybe say something anything about how its going instead of radio silence

>> No.14990230

>>14989220
well it helps to split your game into 3 different SKU

>> No.14990236

>>14990089
Even if relevant negative information is, if not deliberately suppressed, drowned out by all the noise?

>> No.14990305

>>14990236
You can sort the reviews, you know.

>> No.14990311

>>14989329
Dovac needs to learn that all-ages or adult doesn't matter.

If it is a good game, in a bundle, for 10 dollars, 3000 bundles tend to sell in 2 days. It is the pricing that matters, and Denpasoft is extremely overpriced compared to Steam.

Just try me Dovac. Set Grisaia at 10 dollars for 1 week in your denpasoft store and marvel at how fucking well adult games sell.

Or try the opposite, and put your all-ages titles at 45-50 dollars. (As far as I know, only Clannad has this price, and it sold rather poorly for being one of the most famous VNs around)

>> No.14990362

>>14990311
I'm rather dubious knocking prices through the floor works in a niche market, especially one where a full length game is 30+ hours. People don't need backlogs of VNs they only bought because they were cheap/on-sale.

If anything, they need to find ways to allow passionate people to pay more. Say, $80-100 for a digital deluxe with translated drama CDs, wallpapers, progression of CG sketches from concept to completion, naked/underwear patches etc.

>> No.14990393

>>14990362
They already do this, it's what Kickstarter is for.

>> No.14990744

is there a english patch for tentacles and witches?

>> No.14990772

>>14988085

>There's no justification for releasing 18+ Grisaia six months after the non-H version when there was already a patch for the 18+ release. Just none.

What the fuck?

>> No.14990788

>>14987772

There's a reason all of mangagamer's "staff" are "freelancers".

>> No.14990797

>>14990788
And the reason is that they would have nothing to do most of the time as full-time employees.

>> No.14991030

>>14990362
I kind of wish MG would get a F2P game just so I have an excuse to support them more(plus they would handle it better then nutaku). I've already bought everything I give a damn about from them so now I just kind of sit and wait for their next game.

>> No.14991083

>>14990797

Considering MG had to 'turn away' stuff because of a lack of staff, you're very, very wrong.

>> No.14991109

>>14990788
I wonder how they file their incomes taxes.

>> No.14991113
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>>14989329
Eh, so just don't buy things that aren't complete. Most people that care about VNs are completionists, official translations are just someone doing the bulk of the work for fan patches and translations if they choose to screw us over. We might have to put in a little extra work to patch for the extra CGs and text, but we get what we want. In the mean time, pirate and wait for them to learn. It's easy to make an all-ages version for steam and just release that 18+ version through other sources. You don't even need to maintain a whole website for something like that. You could even simply put it out as a patch (something that will inevitably be made anyway) or sell it via j-list or amazon. Tons of sites would probably love to exclusively work with a company for something like that. Just don't pay them if we have to go through the trouble to fix it ourselves, cause it's a slap to the face.

>> No.14991161

>>14986493
>Diablo font
wat

>> No.14991173

>>14991109
They get a w2 like anyone else, no?

>> No.14991184

>>14991161
Diablo font for diablo characters. How can MG make this more clearerer?

>> No.14991255

>>14990362
As I said, you can do the opposite and raise pricing on all-ages titles. I'm content as long as all customers are equal, and there is no favorism for the "pure people who don't like icky porn".

I would still have bought Nekopara for 20 dollars. Now I bought it for 10 and pirated the patch because fuck adult price gauging.

>> No.14991278
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14991278

I'm new vns does anyone have an good translated loli recommendations?

>> No.14991346

Who is more unpopular on /jp/, Moogy or Dovac?

>> No.14991364

>>14991346
Dovac, easily

>> No.14991404

>>14991346
You can as well ask about fuwanovel vs. dovac and still get the same response.

His Majesty dono-heika-sama is largely harmless while dovac actively works against everything that is important to /jp/.

>> No.14991443

>>14991404
And contributes nothing.

>> No.14991446

>>14991346
Message. Holy shit.

>> No.14991520

>>14991446
That fucking installer.

>> No.14991660

When are the next cons or set of announcements?

>> No.14991674

>>14991660
May

>> No.14991685

>>14991674

Where MG will announce Haikei, Kyou kara Bitch ni Narimasu.

>> No.14991709

>Maitetsu officially picked up

Impressive. How are they estimating that it will take, a year? Two?

>> No.14991713 [DELETED] 

>>14991173
They get a 1099 form, which they then have to claim on a Schedule C as self-employment income.

>> No.14991718

>>14991346

I'm convinced at this point that a majority of /jp/ would sacrifice a non-essential digit if it meant dovac would die. That hatred has been so effectively mulled upon and stewed that even if dovac popped back up one day and posted a long apology and asked /jp/ how to run his company, at least 50% of the replies would be "kill yourself".

>> No.14991723

>>14988981
All the legal work from mugi has been done. The script is pretty much all done. The deal has already been made and now it's 100% up to KeroQMakura right now to do shit when they want to. The JP eroge market tends to do things very slowly at their own pace. You can see Nitro+ not giving a shit about their work being delayed 10 years. You can see the conjueror secret project being kept secret for hella long. You can see AliceSoft not giving a shit about Rance's finished translation and wanting to throw out BBH first. JP companies don't know what the western audience is saying and nobody is really trying to communicate to them strongly enough.

>> No.14991724

>>14991709
After they cut out all the 18+ stuff it shouldn't take long at all.

>> No.14991754

>>14991724

How much does this matter anyway? Don't those games usually get community made restoration patches?

>> No.14991764

>>14991754
Did you see the IMMHW one? It was done by like 10 different people and were all bad. Some don't get done either like Eiyuu Senki. Fans shouldn't be doing that shit since it just encourages SP to not do 18+ thinking "well the fans will eventually do it so we dont have to xDDDDD"

>> No.14991768

>>14991754

Well, it doesn't matter if your nip is enough to enjoy the porn.

If not, you're gonna have a hard time creating a restoration patch without an existing translated version somewhere, of which there has been for everything that's gotten a "restoration patch"

>> No.14991778

>>14991754
Sekai picking up an adult title, cutting a lot of content and translating it badly matters quite a bit I think.
If Sekai has to rely on the community that they said they weren't targeting to unfuck the game, they might as well have not picked it up in the first place.

>> No.14991785

>>14991764
>>14991768

I'm not saying that they shouldn't do it or that it is excusable to skip them, but I rather have the All Ages stuff + community translated sex scenes than not having anything at all so I'm pleased with this news.

I'd be odd for Maimetsu though, wouldn't it? I was always under the impression that Monobeno was super heavy on ero content so if this one follows suit the game will feel really gutted without such scenes.

>> No.14991790

>>14991785
Wouldn't you be more happy if they didn't pick it up? That way there would be a chance that someone that doesn't ruin everything they touch would pick it up at a later date.

>> No.14991808

>>14991790

Likely won't happen if it is as huge and hard as Monobeno is.

>> No.14991882

>>14991764
With regards to Eiyuu Senki, there has been steady work ongoing to translate the removed content, remains to be seen if it actually finishes or not though.

>> No.14991895

>>14991808
Monobeno isn't hard.

Hell, it's not even that long if you do Monobeno and Happy End separately, which, let's face it, Dovac will.

>> No.14991931

>>14991895

>Monobeno isn't hard.

I've heard for years in multiple threads, including many here, that Monobeno would never be picked up for translating because of how hard the Japanese in it is.

>> No.14991951

>>14991931
That's nonsense. Are you sure it wasn't because how LONG the VN is?

The Japanese isn't hard at all. I've never heard anyone claim as much in /jp/. It's harder than really simple stuff because of Sumi's dialect and various terminology from Japanese folklore, but it's nothing compared to actually challenging VNs. I'm N3 and I can read it with Jparser.

>> No.14991953

>>14991951
>I'm N3

Please apply for MG staff.

>> No.14991959

>>14991951

>It's harder than really simple stuff because of Sumi's dialect and various terminology from Japanese folklore

That is pretty much the info that I had. But hey if that's manageable that's good news for me, maybe I can play it in a year or two since I'm studying the language.

>> No.14991964

>>14991785
>I was always under the impression that Monobeno was super heavy on ero content so if this one follows suit the game will feel really gutted without such scenes.

Of course it is. It has story-relevant sex scenes in the main game and then dozens of separate extra H scenes, except some of them contain important character moments too. And some other content is much easier to call creepy by shitty Westerners, like Natsuha getting her first period or how's she totally flirting with her brother etc.

>>14991895
>>14991931
It is hard and isn't. There's some medical jargon, there's archaic speech, there are dialects, all of this would be hard to properly convey in English without losing the atmosphere it gives off in Monobeno. But most normal speech by Tooru, Natsuha and other human characters isn't hard, that's true.

And doing base Monobeno and Happy End separately would be fucking retarded. Base Monobeno is pretty unsatisfying in the end and Happy End is nothing if you don't read base Monobeno.

>> No.14991966

>>14991959
It also helps that, since the game is about fucking your kid sister, all of Natsuha's dialogue is ridiculously simple since she's a kid.

>> No.14991971

>>14991754
>How much does this matter anyway?
As far as censoring goes, it depends heavily on the game and the amount of censoring done.

IMHHW was a disaster in part because they went well beyond what was needed censorship wise, getting down to a relatively mild ESRB T rating. Grisaia all ages was reduced to what a CERO D title needed, which kept most of the plot in tack, though some unnecessary censoring was included as well. Muv Luv Alt all ages is restoring some content for Steam which wouldn't make it through a CERO D release, but is no problem for Steam. MangaGamer with Bokuten appears to be trying to figure out what they can get away with for Steam, which judging by Yurirei might end up being "quite a lot." Though that could end up being Dovac's next headache, seeing MangaGamer getting away with minimum censoring while working with Japanese companies that hand them significantly censored titles for Steam.

>> No.14991974

>>14991964
>And some other content is much easier to call creepy by shitty Westerners, like Natsuha getting her first period or how's she totally flirting with her brother etc.
If I can get away with forcing a loli to drink shit from a tube and then vomit it back into the anus of the girl who is shitting into her mouth in Euphoria, Monobeno should be no problem.

>> No.14991983

>>14991951
>I'm N3 and I can read it with Jparser.

Perhaps you shouldn't judge how difficult is something to read when you "read" with automated assistance. And perhaps you should realize the problem isn't really jjst reading it, but properly conveying the atmosphere in English. You think some cuck from Sekai Project would be able to do it?

Seeing people want you to become a translator when you have nothing like N3 >>14991953, I doubt standards in "professional" VN translations are anything special. Hey, I have N1, I guess I'd be the best person there.

>> No.14991989

>>14991723
>JP companies don't know what the western audience is saying and nobody is really trying to communicate to them strongly enough.

I wouldn't mind tweeting @keromakurastaff but seems like they aren't that active on twitter?

>> No.14991991

>>14991983
Suck a dick. Monobeno isn't challenging.

>> No.14991993

>>14991983
That was a joke, dude. I can't believe you thought that was serious.

>> No.14992000

>>14991991
Sorry if I hurt your pride N3-kun. But I'm telling you, it's not a good idea to read things you want to enjoy when you still need to "read" them.

>>14991993
It seemed plausible enough. People always complain about professional scene.

>> No.14992006

>>14991993
Some people take these things seriously enough to start their own guesslation projects

>> No.14992048

>>14992006
What is all of Fuwanovel.

>> No.14992052

>>14992006
/jp/ has better standards. At least N2.

>> No.14992375

Perfectly understanding the text isn't even all that's necessary for translating. To translate, you need to be able to write well in the output language also. Even if someone is good at understanding JP and ENG, if they can't write well in ENG then the translation won't be good. People who want to keep honorifics and japanese words/phrases fall in this category. They don't understand English writing.

>> No.14992387

>>14992375
keeping honorifics is fine if you're translating a 時代劇 or something that's hella japanese like that

which you probably shouldn't translate in the first place but

>> No.14992417

>>14992375
Fuck off, Herkz.

>> No.14992420

>>14992375
Honorifics all day, everyday. Although, it's really not a big deal if it's not kept. I just find it cute the way they address each other. I already know the English equivalents. And what's wrong with a couple of Japanese words here and there? Are you really going to translate sake to rice wine every time?

>> No.14992429

>>14992420
>I already know the English equivalents
There are one or two word equivalents for each honorific? Don't make me laugh.

>> No.14992432

>>14992429
Or you can just drop it and use their job title.

>> No.14992437

>>14992432
Nanami-chan -> Student Nanami

>> No.14992446

>fuwanovel moege project
>Neither of us that work on the project are native speakers.
>we're not going to translate those words in the game(imouto, banchou)

Donmai, nakama, I'm sure this will be a sugoi tanoshii translation.

>> No.14992447

>>14992437
The English equivalent is Bitch Nanami.

>> No.14992457

>>14992375
For a Japanese setting game, the audience that buys visual novels would prefer honorifics over having them removed, literary quality of the final product be damned. Or at the very least, you annoy more customers removing them than including them.

>> No.14992467

>>14992437
"Student Nanami, I shall henceforth conduct touching of your nipples."

>> No.14992469

>>14992447
I don't recall bitch being a job. Don't you mean whore?

>> No.14992472

>>14992420
Sake is an English word.

>> No.14992478

>>14992469
It is for a Kardashian.

>> No.14992484

>>14992478
I don't know your normalfag celebs.

>> No.14992487

>>14992472
It becomes Japanese when you say it with a Japanese accent.

>> No.14992490

>>14992487
Just like touché or coup d'etat are not English words, amirite?

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14992491

>>14991971
Kouryuu just posted this, probably about Bokuten considering the comment from their panel. If so, looks like they are succeeding with keeping stuff in the Steam release of Bokuten.

>> No.14992492

>>14992484
Lucky. I wish to not know about her either.

>> No.14992494

>>14992490
Not if you say it with a Japanese accent.

>> No.14992495

>>14992491
Knowing Kouryuu he must've finally started translating Da Capo 3.

>> No.14992500

>>14992491
He just added another jug to his piss bottle collection. Have you seen his room?

>> No.14992503

>>14992494
What does a Japanese accent have to do with a text-only script?

>> No.14992504

>>14992420
>Are you really going to translate sake to rice wine every time?
Given that sake is a catch all term for drinkable alcohol, it could mean beer, wine, spirits, cider or regular run of the mill rice wine depending on the context. Just leaving it as it is all the time would not be accurate because sake in Japanese and sake in English have different uses. It wouldn't be amiss to call beer "sake" in Japanese but it would definitely be amiss to do so in English.

>> No.14992506

>>14992375
If I ever translate, I'll fight tooth and nail to keep honorifics in.

>> No.14992511

>>14991173

1099 actually.

>> No.14992514

>>14992503
Read it in a Japanese accent in your head.

>> No.14992526

>>14992504
Quite right. Maybe I should've said carryokay.

>> No.14992529

>>14992506

Because all you want to do is show everyone how 'good' Japanese is rather than translate the actual text.

>> No.14992554

>>14992529
I can't help but laugh every time I read a scene in which they discuss the honorifics they use. I imagine your panic when you try to fuck it up.

>> No.14992562

>>14992375
Herkz, there are more people in the community who don't understand English writing and want honorifics for certain games then there are masters of English writing like yourself, which is something someone selling a translation officially should consider. I'm saying this as someone who is generally opposed to their inclusion, but can recognize my view is going to be in the minority of the English community.

>> No.14992569

>>14992554

A discussion which would mean nothing to the audience you're translating for. And only noobs using translation notes for works written to entertain.

>> No.14992573

>>14992375
I've been translating and going to continue doing it with honorifics just because I fucking want to, Herkz.

>> No.14992574

>>14992562
> herkz
> master of English writing
> didn't even read Shakespeare and called his text "Engrish trash"

>> No.14992581

>>14992573

Then you're a shit "translator".

>> No.14992589

Please notice me upperclassman

>> No.14992593

>>14992581
As long as he's better than herz because really, that's all that matters.

>> No.14992597

>>14992581
Just because someone subjectively thinks using honorifics makes someone a bad "translator" doesn't mean it's an undeniable fact.

I'd rather kill myself than having to deal with the English equivalents for all of what my autism is worth.

>> No.14992598

>>14992589
You are a pro-translator.

>> No.14992599

>>14992598
Thanks, Aroduc-chang.

>> No.14992601

>>14992599
That's Bitch Aroduc. Remember, don't use honorifics.

>> No.14992609

>>14992597

They're using foreign words while translating a piece of text in a genre that frowns upon using translation notes. Thus they suck.

>> No.14992620

>>14992609
No one needs translation notes for honorifics.

>> No.14992628

>>14992609
>a genre that frowns upon using translation notes

wat. Lots of people have added an extra text file with their translation to explain certain cultural things that were left in. Grisaia even had them in game.

>> No.14992630

>>14992609
Never used a single translation note from my years as a translator and I still like keeping honorifics.

>> No.14992632

>>14992620

Honorifics are known within the otaku community only. You translate for the English audience, so you'll need translation notes.

Also, only the more well known honorifics are known within the otaku community, stuff like domo is not, thus you'll need translation notes.

And if you're including foreign, Japanese words in an English text without translation notes, you've attained a new level of suck.

>> No.14992635 [DELETED] 

>>14992630

LOOOOOOOLLLLLLLOOOOOOLLLLLLLLL

>> No.14992637
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14992637

>Not keeping the real japanese spirit in your translations

>> No.14992639

>>14992630
You are doing god's work. My weeb heart thanks you.

>> No.14992640

>>14992632
Excuse me, you just used the word "otaku" in your English post. Please include a translation note so I know what it means.

>> No.14992641

>>14992601
>>14992599
Aroduc used honorifics in four games he translated.

>> No.14992644

>>14992641
What a shitty translator.

>> No.14992652

>>14992641
Aroduc both used and didn't use honorifics in the same game.

>> No.14992654

Weebs, ruining translations since 2005

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14992659

>>14992632
>>14992640

>> No.14992665 [DELETED] 

Oh my God! LOL

>> No.14992666 [DELETED] 

>>14992665
You are desperate, Herkz. Don't forget to tweet about it.

>> No.14992672

>>14992420
Keeping 'Manga' as 'Manga' is fine since it's actually a loanword that you can look up in a dictionary.
However, honorifics are not words in the sense that they can be used in the same way in english and retain its meaning. In english, it doesn't have any meaning which is why it shouldn't be used in english writing. It's strange why people get so extremely triggered by it.

>> No.14992679

>>14992672

Agree. That's why I believe it's only kept by translators who revel in the glory of everything nippon, or because they aren't good enough to translate.

>> No.14992681

>>14992672
Please don't be a shitty translator. Just translate "manga" as "comics".

>> No.14992682

>>14992457
The visual novel buying audience isn't going to stay the same forever. Shit is being released on steam now where anybody, regardless of their knowledge on Japanese and weebness will be able to buy and read visual novels. Someone like them won't be know what all those addons to peoples' names are if honorifics are included.

>> No.14992685

>>14992672
If something has a meaning in the original text, you have to relay the meaning in the translation. Otherwise, the meaning is lost and your translation sucks balls.

>> No.14992688

>>14992681
And rice balls to jelly donuts, right?

>> No.14992689

>>14992682
What an opportune time to teach English speaking audience about Japanese culture!

>> No.14992694

>>14992688
Exactly.

>> No.14992696

>>14992689

No thank you!

>> No.14992700

>>14992696
Yes, everybody should get that VN and get culturally enriched about Japanese BL

>> No.14992704

>>14992589
'Senpai' when used to refer to someone is literally just a substitute for calling them by their name. In that usage, its equivalent to calling them by their name.
'Senpai' when used not directly at a person or referring to a specific person means 'upperclassman'.

That flawed counterexample of yours is such a clear sign of how you don't know japanese and shouldn't be dictating how people should translate the way you want.

>> No.14992706

>>14992672
As strange as it may be, now that all the fan translators have sold out, have fun trying to fully ignore what the market wants in certain situations. There is a reason Jast includes "Senpai" in their ads, and why Mangagamer has no problems releasing a game called "Imouto Paradise" and has no problems using a term like "Yuritopia" to describe a game

>> No.14992709

>>14992704

I'm pretty sure that was some dude making a joke.

>> No.14992710

>>14992704
Herkz-senpai -> Herkz Herkz
In all seriousness, maybe I should tell you that senpai can mean other things than upperclassman as well.

>> No.14992719

>>14992710
There wasn't a need to go all out since that example was good enough for the likes of him.

>> No.14992725

>>14992704

Lol! A guy in the thread chooses a post made by someone NOT IN THE ARGUMENT to try and dismiss somebody's point. In case anybody's wondering, this is how you take a 'strawman' to the 'next level' when you've effectively got nothing.

>> No.14992728 [DELETED] 

>>14992682
You are right, we should start seeing the a general audience complain about honorifics any day now, starting with 6 digit sellers like Go Go Nippon and Sakura Spirit (the latter includes them despite being OELVN)

>> No.14992737

>>14992706
Well JAST (jlist) really wants to appeal to otakus when they're selling onaholes and 18+ shit.

Mangagamer wanted to translate Kara No Shojo but IG didn't let them. The same maybe happened for Imouto Paradise. Or they knew it was already an extremely niche product and the target audience would get extremely triggered if they translated Imouto.

>> No.14992740

>>14992682
You are right, we should start seeing the a general audience complain about honorifics any day now, starting with 6 digit sellers like Go Go Nippon and Sakura Spirit (the latter includes them despite being OELVN). I'm not really in favor of them, but you would have to be blind to think their inclusion is going to be detrimental to sales in the near future.

>> No.14992751

>>14992740

Go Go Nippon was a game released to teach foreigners, so the purpose is different. Sakura Spirit sold well because everybody wanted to laugh at them. Those are 2 pretty shitty examples you chose.

>> No.14992768 [DELETED] 

>>14992751
Alright, what visual novel that takes place in a Japanese, do you believe the inclusion of honorifics would be detrimental to sales?

>> No.14992773

>>14992751
Alright, what visual novel that takes place in a Japanese setting, do you believe the inclusion of honorifics would be detrimental to sales?

>> No.14992785

>>14992773

Any VN where people want to enjoy the story. Nippon is meant as a learning experience, so it's an obvious exception, and people were buying keys for Sakura Spirit so they could send it to their friends as a joke. Observe the later sales of the Sakura franchise.

>> No.14992792

>>14992751
Yet Sakura games keep selling, as does Nekopara. In case you didn't notice, the "broader market" that visual novels has the potential to appeal to in the West is generally rather shitty.

>> No.14992796

>>14992792

Sakura Beach and Sakura Santa sold 7,000 and 10,000, and only then because of the shiny tits. A far cry from the 200,000 Sakura Spirit sold

>> No.14992817

>>14992792
Neko/Sakura main selling reasons were its meme-ness and its price. Both were like 10 dollars and below and were played because wow!! catgirls!! wow!!! shitty stupid writing!!! and was featured by streamers and shit. If streamers dropped 50 dollars on gahkthun or something and presented it, people would still be deterred by its price.

>> No.14992826

>>14992796
Yet Sakura Swim Club is overwhelming success.

>> No.14992851

>>14992826

People seriously need to stop buying this shit as a joke. All they're doing is making the fucker rich

>> No.14992897

>>14992785
It seems though that the broader audience willing to play games with anime art doesn't care one way or another with regards to honorifics, while a portion of the community cares about them, especially for a Japanese setting. Hard to believe that the inclusion of honorifics has hurt titles like Clannad or Steins;Gate, while their exclusion probably would have caused some problematic vocal backlash. Thus regardless of what may be the best choice in a literary sense, hard to see a business reason to exclude them.

>> No.14993168

Herkz can translate the way he likes and I will translate the way I like.

>> No.14993183

I thought herkz didn't know Japanese

>> No.14993187

>>14993168
Herkz cannot translate anything, he's EOP.

>> No.14993189

>>14993183
That's moogy. herkz doesn't know editing.

>> No.14993209

>>14993168
nice try herkz

>> No.14993324

>>14993189
He doesn't know either.

>> No.14993376

>1990+26
>arguments about honorifics

weeaboo arguments.
weeaboo arguments never change.

>>14992491

I wonder how will kouryuu top his "COMPLETELY UNCENSORED SEXY LESBIANS" PR with uncensored bokuten?

>> No.14993719

>>14992000
>It seemed plausible enough.

Wow. You must have great reading comprehension for things you read. Please apply for SP they could use someone as smart as you.

>> No.14993756

>>14993376
>I wonder how will kouryuu top his "COMPLETELY UNCENSORED SEXY LESBIANS" PR with uncensored bokuten?
Don't read unless you want to be spoiled
Uncensored rape and Ntr

>> No.14993995

Recently someone suggested that Marriage Lunatics may be one of the un-announced projects by MG. I remember that this title was getting a fan-translation. What happened to it?

>> No.14994001

When the fuck is Himawari coming out? Holy shit.

>> No.14994051

Maitetsu CG set where? I want to see what I won't get with Sekai Project.

>> No.14994161

>>14994051
Every scene is using E-mote, so there are no "traditional" CGs. Instead there is an in-game scene and characters gallery with built-in sliders so you can manipulate them on your own.
>>14993995
MML has an all-ages version so it's quite possible.

>Common Route
>Translated | 13,534 of 15,935 (84.93%)
>TL Checked | 634 of 15,935 (03.97%)
>Edited | 630 of 15,935 (03.95%)

>> No.14994251

>>14994001
The earliest slot would be May, but I would guess Supipara would end up their or maybe something else? Definitely before Summer is over at least.

>> No.14994318

>>14992682
>Someone like them won't be know what all those addons to peoples' names are if honorifics are included
Maybe 5 years ago, but with things like "Senpai will notice me" being a meme and such, not so much any more.
Google trends shows how it spiked.
http://www.google.com/trends/explore?hl=en-US#q=senpai

>> No.14994420

>>14994318
Oceanic weebs, who would've thunk it.

>> No.14994474

>>14994161
Do you mean the progress from this translation?
http://forums.fuwanovel.net/topic/5038-magical-marriage-lunatics-official-tl-thread/?page=4
>It is somewhat difficult to explain without blaming certain parties. The reason this translation project was discontinued may very well have been due to MangaGamer, though I would like to think that if my suspicions were true, then it was doomed to fail from the start.

>I contacted MangaGamer about our project so that we could receive some TLC, something we were dying to obtain at the time. They agreed to *take a look* at one of the scenes we had finished translating and editing, and when I sent the files to them, I noticed a lot of unfamiliar usernames browsing the files (Nawhal, for example). I was pleased to see that there were few "glaring issues" as they said, but they alerted me to one translation in particular that sounded strange. Before notifying the translators to review the segment of the scene, I quickly ran the line under a machine translator, Google in this case. What I discovered wasn't what I wanted to see. I saw that the translated line was, word for word, what the translator had written. I can only guess that it this translator had being using a machine TL the entire time, somehow dealing with the test. This particular translator had also done the majority of the translation I had edited, and that was a lot.

>I did try looking for more translators and TLCs to help out, but I couldn't find any. MangaGamer never did contact me again either.

>> No.14994476 [DELETED] 

>>14992796
OMG this one the most honest comment that I have ever seen>>14992796
>>>14992792
>Sakura Beach and Sakura Santa sold 7,000 and 10,000, and only then because of the shiny tits. A far cry from the 200,000 Sakura Spirit sold
>>14992796
OMG this one the most honest comment that I have ever seen.

>> No.14994485

>>14994474
> blaming localization company for pointing out that their "translator" was google
Fucking fuwatards.

>> No.14994496

>>14994474
Welp, I missed that part.

>> No.14994718

Why won't demeteloaf fuck off out of these threads?

>> No.14994739

I like my translations with Japanese. It annoys me when they go from ojou-sama to whatever word they figure will mean "rich girl" in English. Same with changing sexually loaded oniichan with "big brother" that carries no sexual vibes. I prefer them using last names, even though a proper localization would mean first names always when addressing people.

I figure most people buy these things because it is different to begin with. Why would anyone want to buy something that reads like an EOP?

>> No.14994763

>>14994739
Because when you translate into English, you must remove everything related to Japan. Nobody should ever learn that in Japan, they prefer using their family name first.

>> No.14994766

>>14994739
Personally I prefer my translations with 漢字.
何で俺様ような人は汚い夷字を読めなければならない?

>> No.14994799

>>14994766
Herkz please.

>> No.14994852

>>14994739
>sexually loaded oniichan

...

>> No.14994871

>>14991446
>>14991520

I don't get it.

>> No.14994958

>>14994852
That alone says enough about his perceived knowledge of japan and japanese. Girls blamed for being raped by wearing certain clothing and little sisters blamed for being too sexual for using oniichan. 2016 plz

>> No.14994959
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When will we get a VN translation that surpasses the original?

This thesis was kind of interesting to read, but I'm sure most of it was a ripoff of "Transcreating Japanese Video Games: Exploring a Future Direction for Translation Studies"

http://scholarworks.umass.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1218&context=masters_theses_2

>> No.14994965

>>14994958
Faggot stop posting.

>> No.14994968

>>14994959
Surpassing the original text is literally impossible unless it's a rewrite.

>> No.14994979

>>14994965
I'm so glad I pissed you off :)

>> No.14994980
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14994980

>>14991754
>>14991764
Here's your community restoration patch

>> No.14994983

>>14994959
I can tell the writer of the text you screenshotted was intent on having his thesis look longer than it actually is, seeing how large the line spacing is.

>> No.14994992

>>14991971
>relatively mild ESRB T rating
You might be surprised at what can get through ESRB T rating. http://i.imgur.com/kbBxT6E.jpg

In IMHHW, they redrew art like a bra showing through a wet T-shirt so it wouldn't show anymore. That's beyond making a game more appropriate for teenagers. It's puritanical.

>> No.14994993

>>14994980
I don't need a restoration patch for a kusoge without honorifics.

>> No.14994995

>>14994992
But think of the 12 year old french girls!

>> No.14995002

>>14994983
I can tell you've never looked at any Master's or PhD thesis before.

>> No.14995009

>>14994992
Slightly off-topic, but UK is one of the most censoring countries and it's beyond me how something like Strike Witches got rating 12+.

>> No.14995012

>>14994992
I worded that poorly, I had meant to say something along the lines of "relatively mild even for a title with an ESRB T rating"

>> No.14995019

>>14993376
I doubt Bokuten goes through uncensored, but Mangagamer seems to have discovered that Steam's content restrictions are much closer to an MPAA R rating than an ESRB M rating and plans to take advantage of that.

>> No.14995047

>>14994959
>Translators have struggled for decades to have their translations regarded as original creative works instead of poor imitations...

Go make some fanfaction, fagatron.

>> No.14995071

>>14995047
A good translation is pretty much a creative work though.

>> No.14995082

>>14995071
What makes them think they can be better than the story they are translating? Go be a writer with your own story if they think they are so good.

>> No.14995238

>>14994852
>>14994958
I'm talking about girls outside your family using the wording. Like if your neighbour would call you "big brother". Because that is a proper English localization, because even if they are not related at all, he clearly said "big brother" no questions asked.

>> No.14995246

>>14995238
They'll just translated "oniichan" to "fresh guy".

>Hey, fresh guy. How youse doing?

>> No.14995249

>>14995238
You don't actually know anything about the word is actually used.

>> No.14995265

>>14995249
I'm giving you the japanese word, the english localization word, and you say I need to know more? Well, translation notes, where are thou?

>> No.14995275

>>14995265
Nor anything about translation.

>> No.14995280

>>14995238
Clearly, context matters. In that particular context, its like neighbors referring to the father of a family as otosan.

>> No.14995285

>>14995275
Since when do I need to know how translation works to read a translated work?

Please, I need more bait.

>> No.14996449

Man, I really wish dovac had gotten in the bed with Alicesoft. We could have been enjoying Haruka on steam by now.

>> No.14996485

>>14996449
Haruka without the H wouldn't be worth playing, but rail lolis is still a great vn about train trivia even without the H.

>> No.14996519

>>14996485
Yeah and it has high production values in general, animations, and a really nice engine.

>> No.14996545

>>14996485
>>14996519
Fuck off dovac.

>> No.14996576

>>14996449
>Kickstarter
>shitty translation
>cut content
>having to deal with Steam retards
>helping dovac in any way

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>> No.14996632

To this day I still wonder why don't the Japanese themselves take care of the translation to English and publishing worldwide.

>> No.14996640

>>14996632
Because they can't into 英語.

>> No.14996650

>>14996632
These are small companies, some with less than 10 people on staff. Who's going to handle all the work in hiring translators/editors, coordinating the project, marketing the game in English, distribution, handling support, processing payments, etc?

>> No.14996680

>>14993376
>I wonder how will kouryuu top his "COMPLETELY UNCENSORED SEXY LESBIANS" PR with uncensored bokuten?

Kouryuu put out an answer about 18+ content on Steam earlier, concluding with what is probably a preview of the PR speak on the subject.

>If we really want to see more sexual content in the mainstream, and greater support and promotion of sexual freedom in general, what we all need to be doing is to support those actively trying to push the line on what sexual content can be legitimately sanctioned, and supporting the original uncensored editions that aren't broken just to suit one storefront.

>> No.14996684

>>14996632
Japanese market isn't dead enough (yet), I suppose.

>> No.14996690

Maybe the business is in hijacking these machine translations made by fans and not having to pay a translator at all, or just pay him to finetune and edit.

>> No.14997683

>>14996485
But I don't want train trivia, I want train trivia while fucking underage-looking girls.

>> No.14997722

https://twitter.com/dobacco/status/714907809914064896
dovac preemptively tries to set up "victim of ebil gamerz" narrative. Does he really think it will save him from wrath of Social Justice?

>> No.14997726

>>14997722
The lolicons are out for blood

>> No.14997731

>>14997722
Those whiteknighting plebbitors. Hillarious.

>> No.14997777
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>>14997722
>this is /jp/ approved

>> No.14997784

>>14997722
>>14997777

If that's true it's pretty hilarious

>> No.14997801

>>14997784
Its same kind of made-up story as "shit in a box" thing he was lying about some time before. He posts about some kind of "persecution" every day, typical twitter drama whore.

>> No.14997813

>>14997801
This. Dovac's thrown extended twitter tantrums before based on nothing but a couple 4chan posts. He basically has Munchausen Syndrome and almost certainly idolizes Phil Fish.

>> No.14997821

>>14997722
Maybe just maybe he shouldn't put his cell phone number in the public record if he wanted to keep it private

>> No.14997837

>>14997821
Lots of people on the PR sides of things have their cell phone numbers basically in public on their business cards which get handed out.

>> No.14997840

>>14997821
It's part of this attention whore master plan and part of his plan to ruin the VN scene.

>> No.14997850

>>14997813
Dovac regularly throws a tantrum about how he hates everyone and everyone is scum and a blight upon the visual novel scene, then whines that everyone's picking on him for no reason, then closes all social media accounts.

Over and over again.

>> No.14997981

>>14996519
Those things probably won't matter to people who aren't interested in loli heroines. The age of the heroines will likely be a big turn off to alot of people.

>> No.14998005

>>14997981
Of course they would matter. They give a perfectly good reason to read the VN without the sex.

>> No.14998006

>>14997722
Social Justice people may have been the ones who did it. I read that some of them already found about about loli trains and were furious that it was licensed with plans to put any version of it on Steam.

>> No.14998029

>>14998005
If someone isn't interested in the heroines, why would they play the game? Most people would find train trivia boring, so without the romance angle, they're not going to bother when there are other games with heroines they are interested in.

>> No.14998046

>>14998029
I'm not that interested in seeing very young loli sex, so it'd be interesting to me regardless. The romance would be cute, so it's not a turn-off. Like I said, high production values, animation would make it quite compelling to read Maitetsu over another VN. It's not about the porn for everyone. When I read Grisaia I just ctrl'd through all of them since I cared more about the story.

>> No.14998068

>>14998046
>I just ctrl'd through all of them since I cared more about the story.

Am I on reddit?

>> No.14998087

>>14998046
>The romance would be cute
Unless that gets gutted too. Grown man in a romantic relationship with such a young girl likely won't fly on Steam either.

>> No.14998139
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14998139

As was speculated in this thread, Tokyo Babel apparently hasn't been doing too hot preorder-wise.

A wise man might consider that there's no steam key included, and therefore wait until the steam release to pass judgement on how it will do.

But this is /jp/, so tell me /jp/, how does it feel to know that all-ages chuu2 will die in your lifetime in favor of moege and steam-censored moege?

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>>14998139

>> No.14998252

>>14998139
I'll probably buy it in the future if i'm bored enough. I just dont see anything special about tokyo babel, gakhthun has lightning jesus which was fun at least. Though if it turns out to be a solid vn in general i'll probably get it and leave it in the backlog for a while.

But yeah I can see chuuni becoming non existent if this doesn't do well.

>> No.14998261

>>14998139
>>14998252
MG should really try to hype the VA cast and the writer. Plus, the premise is interesting and sounds like Biblical Fate/stay night.

>> No.14998302

>>14998139
Without steam keys and porn, there's literally zero reasons to buy from MG directly.

>> No.14998312

>>14998302

DRM-free version? At least if mangagamer's is.

>> No.14998324

>>14998312
Its same with steam version. Once its downloaded, you can run it without steam app running.

>> No.14998325

>>14998139
>No Sexual Content 2.5
I wonder why.

>> No.14998356

>>14998139

Tokyo Babel hasn't really charted at all, and when it has, it's quickly left the charts indicating single day bursts. If I were to estimate by giving it say, 5% of sales(the same weight I usually give spot 5) in it's sales period, that ends up... 125 copies. That'd be about half of what gahkthun achieved in the first month of preorders(it had a two month preorder period).

Steam will quite decidedly make or break tokyo babel.

>> No.14998367

>>14998356
What sucks is that if it bombs, then we might never get Bullet Butlers or Evolimit.

>> No.14998391
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14998391

They should've hyped Christianity mythos.

>> No.14998419

>>14998139
If i like ayakashibito will i also like this ?

>> No.14998438

>>14998261
how would they hype it?

>> No.14998480

>>14998261

>>14998438
>>14998438
Yeah how would they hype it, i doubt most westerner who is the va and writer

>> No.14998515

>>14998419
yes

>> No.14998940

>>14998139
But the heroines look really cute in Tokyo Babel. Specifically that twintailed one. I love the art. Damn people not being more interested. I hope it does well.

>> No.14998954

>>14998940
And I just looked at who voiced her. Kanae Itou. Best girl confirmed.

>> No.14999228

>>14994980
>uguu
Every time.

>> No.14999267

>>14998940
Not a fan of the noses, and the few monster CGs I've seen look hit and miss to me. Everything else looks fine.

>> No.14999604

>>14998480
Just mention notable characters that the VA have voiced before, like Levi from Shingeki no Kyojin. Same for the writer, he's worked on several works in the Fate/stay night universe.

>> No.14999997

If you ask Dovac, only all-ages sell. If you ask MG, only eroge sell. If you ask me, only cheap games sell and get put on backlogs, while expensive games get to wait for backlogs to clear.

You can only sell expensive things if it includes benefits. Like an expensive Haruka with a promise of Rance. Expensive Imouto Paradise, with a hint of future loli titles. Expensive limited editions, with promises of art books and drama CDs.

A neutral expensive title will never do well. Why should anyone buy Tokyo Babel now and not during the 25% summer sale? It would only happen if you are out of VNs to play.

>> No.15000052

>>14999997
Why should anyone buy Tokyo Babel at all?

>> No.15000077

>>14999997
>expensive Haruka

Haruka was dirt cheap for how long it was.

>> No.15000124

https://twitter.com/FrontwingInt/status/715023878150569984

wat

>> No.15000143

>>15000124
Seems like they decided to mimic Winged Cloud. If they can sell utter shit, why frontwing cannot? They have better artists and tons of people who can write gajillion of shit games in short time.

>> No.15000182

>>15000052
Because it's good? To show that there is interest in chu2 genre?

>> No.15000187

>>15000182
If you are interested in that sort of genre, you might be too young to be browsing 4chan!

>> No.15000201

>>14999997
>while expensive games get to wait for backlogs to clear.
This is true. The reality of games is that even AAA titles aren't always day 1 buys (unless multiplayer).

But MG sales are few and far between, so it's worth getting something at a decent discount even if it goes on the backlog.

>> No.15000207

>>14999604
uh... which ones?
https://vndb.org/s822

>> No.15000237

What I'd like to see, is more magical girl VNs with actual transformation scenes. If it is extremely popular in anime, it feels like natural content to sell on VNs.

I think I have CG of a single game that actually had that. Which seems very little.

>> No.15000241

>>15000187
I'll be a wizard in 3 years so I think I'm good.

>> No.15000249

>>15000207
http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Yuuichirou_Higashide

>> No.15000323

>>15000237
>magical girl VNs with actual transformation scenes
Look in to Princess Witches if you know moon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6TOctFZx0c
Aroduc did some kind of pseudo lets play summary thing a few seasons back.

>> No.15000382

http://store.steampowered.com/app/366780/

Magical Eyes - Red is for Anguish is out.

>> No.15000412

>>15000382

Huh, I was expecting that to keep slipping

>> No.15000750

This "Astro" guy from Sekai Project seems like a lazy and unreliable fuck. No wonder he is with Sekai Project.

>> No.15000775

>>15000187
If you ever plan to make a stupid post like this again, shut the fuck up!

>> No.15000787

Root Double officially delayed until "sometime in April"

>> No.15000816

>>15000787
color me surprised

>> No.15000888

>>15000143
This is what happens when you buy Winged Cloud shit. All it does is flood the VN market with absolute garbage.

>> No.15000893

>>15000052
From the demo, it's actually a pretty fun read.

>> No.15001070

>>15000888
I think they all should more or less run pure ecchi with boobs and nudity everywhere on Steam for the cash. Sex is really overkill and just makes things hard to sell. No nudity just makes it blend in with the other 99% of the steam game lists.

>> No.15001079

>>15000893
It's Higashide, I'm not sure why anyone's surprised that it is actually really good.

>> No.15001097

>>15000143
>>15000888
It's a puzzle game and mentions nothing about ecchi. What are you retards on about with comparisons to Winged Cloud? This is a completely different kind of game.

>> No.15001178

>>15001079
Because they think chuuni (which is apparently everything that's not SOL according the non-Japanese) automatically means it's bad.

>> No.15001197

>>15001097
So it's like Huniepop?

>> No.15001209

>>15001097
>eroge company
>no ecchi

Okay, man.

>> No.15001233

>>15001197
>>15001209
Is that really all you're basing it on? That is dumb as fuck. Key made eroge too, didn't stop them from doing all ages games when they felt like it. This could be like Puyo Puyo or Magical Drop instead.

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>>14997722

Everyone sure was quick to condemn and declare that /jp/ or /vg/ had to have been behind that, but in a shocking plot twist...

>> No.15001253

>>15001178
In my experience, the western VN community is even more idiotic than the anime community, which is impressive considering how bad that one already is. They take the unwarranted snobbishness and turn it up tenfold because they think they're writing experts for skimming through a story while they talk to their friends on Facebook.

Chuunige isn't even a term the Japanese people really use. I don't know how this stupidity caught on but I blame Moogy.

>> No.15001254

>>15001233
>Purino Party!
>no ecchi

What a boring ass party.

>> No.15001257

>>15001254
Yeah, so you can't read Japanese.

>> No.15001262

>>15001241
Why does Dovac write in such an autistic way? It's like he starts typing a new sentence before he even finishes the last one. What the fuck is the big hurry?

>> No.15001263

>>15001257
Purino = dog food
Party = party

>> No.15001359

>>15000124

oh btw it's not twit'd but on their facebook apparently this shit is
>At the current time, the game is scheduled to be released exclusively for overseas fans!

>> No.15001387

>>15001359
>the game is scheduled to be released exclusively for overseas fans!
This is what happens when people keep buying bottom of the barrel shit over and over again.

Also
>btw
>twit'd
Stop typing like a retard.

>> No.15001396 [DELETED] 

>>15001387

make me motherfucker

>> No.15001441

>>15001387
But the bottom is the EOP otome games with crap art.

>> No.15001475

>Root Double will be released in March
>March 30th Update: Root Double is delayed.

Sasuga fuckfaces.

>> No.15001530

>>15001475
March has 31 days. Just wait a day. GOSH!

>> No.15001585

>>15001530
They're waiting on Registra. It could be weeks.

>> No.15001750

>>15000323
>>15000237
What about Haruka? Did you forget about it already?

>> No.15001774

>>15000237
Nega0 is a great magical girl transformation game, although with some major flaws, that I wish Jast would bring over since they're already partners with Eternal. More people should play it, although I understand why they don't since the first couple hours are excruciating and the ending is what it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwvtGn3h3Fg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSPSW5AbnSA

>> No.15002062

>>15001097
No, its exactly same kind of game: no quality extra-fast development steam milking game with boob bait.
And if you think there will be no boob bait, you are clearly not knowing what kind of developer frontwing is, they were nukige creators before grisaia.

>> No.15002253

>>15001585
Weeks turn into months
Will this game ever come out?
Sasuga Japan

>> No.15002283

>>15002253
2341235213th time SP project gets delayed because Japan while SP themselves did nothing wrong. dovac sure is lucky to always get into relations with such bad devs while all other licensing companies don't have this problem. Or just lying.

>> No.15002349

>>15002283
Another delay
Blame everything on the devs
Sasuga dovac

>> No.15002381

Five years of waiting
License even more VNs
Goddamnit, Peter

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Poor storyge sales
Doddler cries in a corner
What bad marketing

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