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Mahjong Anonymous Mon Feb 29 20:06:21 2016 No.14856363 [Reply] [Original]

How to Tenhou:
http://arcturus.su/

Tenhou
http://tenhou.net/0/?L7447

Sega MJ instructions
https://sites.google.com/site/mjnetguide/home

A new month brings a clean slate. Let's leave all the losses of February behind.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 29 20:12:30 2016 No.14856389 File: 1.15 MB, 418x290, 1418583455632.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Great. Time to rank up and repair my battered R

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 29 20:24:55 2016 No.14856431 >>14856363 >A new month brings a clean slate. Let's leave all the losses of February behind. So what you're saying is that, because I did well in February, March will be horrible.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 29 20:52:02 2016 No.14856535 File: 76 KB, 940x517, 1448303405207.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14856363 always

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 29 21:06:54 2016 No.14856615 >>14856535 Even if you're in furiten?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 29 21:11:46 2016 No.14856641 >>14856615 Only new fags get into furiten

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 29 21:16:43 2016 No.14856691 File: 73 KB, 1055x640, Furiten.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14856615 >>14856641 Always relevant

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 29 21:29:24 2016 No.14856770 If I post a few replays will someone give me advice on how to stop sucking?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 29 21:41:52 2016 No.14856839 >>14856770 Sure. Can't promise I'll be quick, but I know there are other anons who provide game analyses as well.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 29 21:44:16 2016 No.14856852 File: 55 KB, 625x262, 79518715538b9fb1b0ec7b9bfb475dc7539afda69c6c9c912515d6ea9cf67b2f.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14856770 Of course :^)

Anonymous Mon Feb 29 21:47:28 2016 No.14856871

>>14856839
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016030108gm-0089-0000-c3671c7a&tw=0
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016022900gm-0089-0000-672fdfb2&tw=3
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016030109gm-0089-0000-9927c70d&tw=1
Thanks in advance. These were all games I placed last. Even if you guys could just look over one, it would help a lot.

>>14856852
Don't meme me too hard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 29 22:06:31 2016 No.14856958 >>14856615 furitenriichi is the best riichi: it works 100% of the time

Anonymous Mon Feb 29 22:35:35 2016 No.14857097
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>>14856871
First replay;

E4 - You draw 6p and discard 2s. This is a mistake because it severely limits your ukeire; you can only draw 1-4m or 3s to get tenpai. The better discard here is the 8s, because then you go tenpai on 1-4m and 2-3-5-6s. If you were going to try and hold out for 678 sanshoku, then you should have discarded the 4s instead, which gives you a slightly worse ukeire, but it's still better than 2s. As a result, you miss your tenpai on turn 12, which east would've dealt into immediately. Instead, they go on to win a haneman.

E4 3 Honba - You draw 5s and discard the 1s. Ton is completely dead at this point, so you should discard it. You also hold onto it and discard 9s the next turn. It may feel minor, but with those two discards, you made the rest of the 1s and 2s (7 tiles total) dead draws, as well as 9s and 8s. Since 9s is already a safe tile for two players, even with defense in mind, discarding the Ton and Hatsu before number tiles is a much better decision. Note how you draw an 1s not long afterwards, which would have put you 1 shanten for chii toitsu. It would have also prevented you from dealing in, although this is not as important.

S1 - Discarding your 1p on turn 6 puts you back to 3 shanten. It's only slightly safer than any other tile in your hand because of the two 2p but that doesn't mean much. You're in fourth and this is your last turn as dealer, with no safe tiles. Discarding 4m, 3s, or 7s keeps you at 2 shanten. Depending on which you keep, if it makes another tatsu or edge wait, then you can discard the 1p pair for tanyao or pinfu, but doing it before then just makes you take a step back in hand progress. As a result of discarding it, you also lose the 1-1-2-4-4p shape that would've made the 3p you draw on turn 11 into a meld, which would've put you at 1 shanten. Instead you're still floundering at 3 shanten when north tsumos.

S3 - You discard 9s which sets you back to 4 shanten. Instead, discarding 9m leaves you in 3 shanten with the highest ukeire. If you understandably want to still pursue 789 sanshoku then discarding 1s is slightly less efficient but perfectly reasonable.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 29 22:58:21 2016 No.14857228 >>14857097 Wow, it really helps to have a second pair of eyes. Thanks man, this is exactly what I needed.

Anonymous Mon Feb 29 23:00:51 2016 No.14857240

>started as a dealer, got three good hands, 15k lead
>E4, opponent declares riichi
>next turn I see free sex button
>dealt in, 3k, all right
>S1, opponent declares riichi
>free sex button
>11k ippatsu, fuck, but enough rounds to come back
>connection dies
>it's 00:00 March 1st, I forgot to pay for the net
>free 4th place
I'm super retarded

Anonymous Mon Feb 29 23:09:06 2016 No.14857272

>>14856871
First game:

>E1-1
Tile efficiency. I would throw out 12 in 1245m early because the wait overlaps (3m still improves your hand because of 45m). You can discard 4s before 12m for safety, but it was almost certainly a mistake to discard the third sha. It worked out for you though.

>E1-2
Against the riichi, discarding 9p is a little edgy but justifiable as the dealer, but 8m was very questionable.

>E2
Why discard chun? There's still one left.

>E4-2
8s is the best discard for tile efficiency over 2s. 4s or 6s is slightly worse but still better than 2s if you wanted to keep an outside chance at sanshoku, since discarding 2s only leaves you with one useful sou tile (3s) for advancing your hand.

>E4-3
You should discard 9p before 1p. 1p is still 13p kanchan + 34455p ryanmen, so fixating too heavily on your completed iipeikou is suboptimal.

Overall, none of your mistakes really caused this particular loss. A good way to think about it is that perhaps 15% of losses in joukyuu are unavoidable with optimal play, and this was one of them.

Second game:
>E3
5m is risky given that kamicha has called twice and man looks dangerous against him. Sometimes you've got to know when to give up early, and since your hand is going nowhere you should fold after the dealer called and discarded dora.

Funnily enough that 7s looks dangerous against dealer because the 38s aida yon ken makes a 47s wait somewhat likelier, but it was shimocha who was waiting on 47s.

Folding early is probably a more "advanced" aspect of strategy that you don't really need to achieve 3 dan, but keep it in mind. I would focus on your tile efficiency first.

>E4
Discarding the bird breaks up 13s for no reason.

Later, when you draw the red 5, you discarded a 5s instead of 8s for no reason. In general, keeping an inner tile three away like 5s vs 8s is better for efficiency.

Discarding 7m against three riichi was very bad since it was dangerous against all of them. 4s is likely your best bet since it is safe against one and half-suji against the other two with the bird in their ponds, and three 5s are visible. Even the 9p would have been better as a more aggressive alternative for greater tenpai chance, since three 7p and two 8p are visible.

>S2
You should discard 9s from 4689s instead of 9p from 779p. Don't fixate on a pair too early.

2p discard against riichi was both dangerous and pointless since it moves you away from completing your hand. Because of the early 3s discard, I would discard 2s here into iishanten.

>S3-1
You passed a chi on the dora twice, the second time near the end of the round when you had a full chun ankou. Why?

In addition, you discarded 4m to keep 1p, destroying a likely pair. You may have wanted to keep 1p for safety, but don't sacrifice your efficiency too much especially when you are 4th and should be more aggressive in the South rounds. Sure enough, the 4m discard backfired and you would've gotten to tenpai or won the hand with it.

>S4-2
You should have discarded the 9m dora immediately. You are dealer and in last place; your highest priority should be getting into tenpai as fast as possible. If you wanted to break up your 7p ankou for chiitoi, you should have done it after drawing your second 1s, not after discarding both of them. This backfired as you got the 2s ankou into a likely tenpai if you had kept with your non-chiitoi iishanten.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 29 23:16:08 2016 No.14857297 >>14857272 Correction, I mixed up kamicha and shimocha there in the second game E3 comments. Also that was a longer wall of text than I expected. Maybe I should use pastebin or something for these.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 29 23:21:03 2016 No.14857310 >>14857240 >>it's 00:00 March 1st, I forgot to pay for the net what

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 29 23:23:02 2016 No.14857320 >>14857310 Straya cunt

Anonymous Mon Feb 29 23:42:29 2016 No.14857389

>>14857097
>>14857228
>>14857297
Good idea. Second replay; http://pastebin.com/uVkSCf9e

I don't think I'm going to do the third one but I will tell you that your common problems are:

1) Your tile efficiency isn't great. You tend to fall into the trap of 'good shapes', trying to take them and discarding terminals when it actually moves your hand backwards. This is a common problem for intermediate players. You'll have to work on that yourself over time.

2) You seem to panic when riichis are declared. If someone riichis and you have no safe tiles, don't be afraid to push forward with your hand. You can always fall back to betaori when there are safe tiles, and trying to pick out a 'safe' tile from your hand is just as likely to backfire on you.

Similarly, if you're in fourth and the hanchan will be over soon, don't be afraid to push forward. If you fall further into fourth place doing so, that's fine; you would have likely gotten fourth if you didn't, anyway. Of course, this is situational. If you and third are very close in points, or third is playing like an idiot and has a high chance of dealing in, then it can be okay to play defensively instead. I wouldn't put my hopes on that happening often, though.

Anonymous Tue Mar 1 00:18:41 2016 No.14857525
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>>14856363
>mfw, managed to finish strong at the end of the month, to make up for the early month fuck ups

Didn't make it all the way back; but man, I'll take it. Fuck any dan-level hell.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 00:21:04 2016 No.14857533 File: 660 KB, 698x840, Everything with be fine.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14857525 Made it to 1155/1200 and then proceeded to get 4th twice in a row when I didn't deal into anything higher than a yakupai either game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 00:33:14 2016 No.14857566 >>14857525 >tfw had to make a new account this month I don't hate it anymore.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 00:54:54 2016 No.14857624 >1) Your tile efficiency isn't great. You tend to fall into the trap of 'good shapes', trying to take them and discarding terminals when it actually moves your hand backwards. This is a common problem for intermediate players. Tell me more about this

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 00:59:46 2016 No.14857647 >>14856363 3.0

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 04:18:17 2016 No.14858243 Sometimes I thank the lesbian gods for making someone disconnect while I'm more than 10k behind in points. It's not one of the cleanest of comebacks but I'll take it any time. http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016030117gm-0089-0000-ad19616d&tw=0

Anonymous Tue Mar 1 04:59:19 2016 No.14858342

>>14857272
>>14857389
>Why discard chun? There's still one left.
So I should've kept it. Most of the time I wonder if one is in the dead wall, thought it would cheapen my hand too much if it was so I threw it out.

>Discarding the bird breaks up 13s for no reason.
I was going for kuitan since I thought it would be quicker considering I was the dealer, but now that I look again it wasn't the best idea and I should've kept my hand closed.

But you're right. I have a bad habit of always prioritizing pinfu over getting into tenpai and I think it's fucking me over. I also used to deal in a lot when I was first starting out (it was so bad that it brought me down below R1100 for a while, a great feat in itself) that now I try to avoid dealing in as much as possible, even where it doesn't make sense.

This really helped me a lot. I saved these critiques so I can look at them again later. Now that I know what I'm doing wrong I know where to start. Thanks.

Anonymous Tue Mar 1 05:49:11 2016 No.14858452

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016030119gm-0089-0000-5d501deb&tw=0

How should have shimocha played? He was, at one point, in the lead but then ended up last after dealing in three times in a row.

Also did I play reasonably well? I'm now 1065/1200 so playing in tokujou might happen eventually.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 06:03:34 2016 No.14858478 http://riichi.dynaman.net/ Thought on this? Also, anyone up for 7447?

Anonymous Tue Mar 1 06:07:32 2016 No.14858487

>>14858478
It's been brought up here in older topics.

Personally I find it annoying that he isn't using the nip terms, but he has helped me improve greatly as a player.

Most people here similarly consider it a bible as we lube up when we see him in 7447.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 06:22:34 2016 No.14858506 >>14858487 He's regular in 7447?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 06:28:31 2016 No.14858520 >>14858506 >>14849916

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 06:32:02 2016 No.14858532 >>14858520 He's tokujou player? Damn.

Anonymous Tue Mar 1 06:57:11 2016 No.14858628

>>14858478
I got a lot of good insights and neat techniques from it but I don't think it's a flawless book. It covers the basics of playing for the new players but doesn't go that in depth about the subtleties and complexities of playing. I guess it would be really difficult to go that deep given how contextual everything in mahjong is. I wish he tackled more about the psychological aspects of playing like keeping a proper mindset and dealing with heavy losses.
>>14858532
In one of the illustrations in his book he reached 2dan in under 40 games. I think that tells a lot about his skills.

Anonymous Tue Mar 1 07:06:30 2016 No.14858652

>>14858628
Maybe he'll address some of that stuff in Book 2. Doubt it, though.

>I have thus decided to write a book on Riichi Mahjong strategies for European players, primarily with beginners and intermediate players in mind. I then ended up splitting the book into two volumes; Book I is intended for beginners and intermediate players (tenhou rank of四段or below), while Book II is meant for more advanced players. The two books are not intended for complete novices who do not know how to play Riichi Mahjong. The target reader is anyone who has played Riichi Mahjong before and wants to improve their skills further.

Anonymous Tue Mar 1 07:32:18 2016 No.14858735
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I'm using the arcturus statistics thing and it seems like someone else owned my username in 2011. Guess it expired before I decided to register for it.

He played in some weird lobby numbers, though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 08:29:53 2016 No.14858894 Onii-chan, asobou. 1:0

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 08:38:52 2016 No.14858919 File: 208 KB, 713x1024, û¦ôGé¦Él001_02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14856363 >one outs it's literally Akagi with Mahjong and then kaitani really did his very own akagi.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 08:40:23 2016 No.14858926 >>14858919 *with baseball

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 08:43:34 2016 No.14858940 The people who wait the whole 10 seconds to call ron should be lined up and shot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 08:56:25 2016 No.14858983 >>14858478 This should be linked in the op. good shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 09:10:47 2016 No.14859029 That double ron almost gave heart attack

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 09:39:05 2016 No.14859123 >use retarded ID >get rekt He deserved it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 09:39:42 2016 No.14859127 >>14859123 Who?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 09:46:17 2016 No.14859146 Don't be shy, lad. We're waiting for (you). 3:0

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 10:31:13 2016 No.14859324 File: 18 KB, 244x239, 1335517717645.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Come up with a nice sounding ID >Last letter is replaced by "..." which is longer than the letter itself

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 10:36:40 2016 No.14859347 >>14859324 Let me guess ロツおふ背楠?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 11:30:44 2016 No.14859561 >>14859347 Nah, I ditched the ID after seeing that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 15:19:00 2016 No.14860289 File: 154 KB, 960x544, PCSG00646.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Might as well try asking this here: Do any of you know what the highest possible hand is worth and what it is?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 15:43:14 2016 No.14860395 >>14860289 Dealer triple yakuman suu ankou, all honors, big four winds 144,000 Of course that's under standard rules, some hands are worth millions under aotenju(SP)

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 15:46:42 2016 No.14860408 >>14860289 Assuming double yakumans are allowed Tenhou = 1 yakuman Daisuushii = 2 yakuman Suu ankou tanki = 2 yakuman Tsuuiisou = 1 yakuman So it's a dealer sixtuple yakuman worth 288,000 points.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 16:20:13 2016 No.14860518 >>14858940 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4COqjc0epo&t=2m24s

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 16:33:46 2016 No.14860562 File: 142 KB, 501x375, by man by.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14860518

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 16:37:37 2016 No.14860573 >>14860518 >lights a cig before calling ron Holy shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 16:51:11 2016 No.14860632 >>14858652 I can't imagine what would fill Book 2 since I tend to consider 7d+ "advanced." For example, I am aware of several non-Japanese 7d players but maybe only one 8d.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 17:17:46 2016 No.14860737 >>14860632 I'm sure a bunch of Chinese players are 8-dan and over.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 17:22:19 2016 No.14860749 >>14860737 Yeah, I meant English speaking. I think a 10d is Chinese.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 17:37:01 2016 No.14860805 I'm looking at the SE pack and Akagi only has pon but no chi or riichi. Where are the rest of the files?

Anonymous Tue Mar 1 18:47:43 2016 No.14861089
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>dealer calls riichi
>a few turns later calls tsumo
>riichi, pinfu, dora x 2
>ah, it wasn't that much
>11K

>dealer rons
>pinfu + dora
>ah, it wasn't that much
>6K

Fu sure is a mysterious thing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 18:55:54 2016 No.14861122 >>14861089 It's not fu, it's the 1.5x dealer bonus.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 19:04:43 2016 No.14861152 >>14861089 Not only what >>14861122 said, but it also couldn't be fu because pinfu is literally defined by having no extra fu (aside from ron).

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 19:06:30 2016 No.14861166 >tfw you accidentally click on tournament lobby instead of ranked in the client I'm trapped

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 19:08:15 2016 No.14861177 >>14861166 Restart the client without the crack and change lobbies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 19:34:08 2016 No.14861270 >>14861177 Thanks

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 19:37:49 2016 No.14861276 3:0

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 20:18:25 2016 No.14861425 File: 279 KB, 739x629, Renhou a shit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] When you see it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 20:21:22 2016 No.14861436 File: 239 KB, 598x320, CVIxOvmUwAEpNl3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14861425 He's lucky he didn't have any yaku to win off that 9p. He would've missed his chihou otherwise, I guarantee it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 20:36:34 2016 No.14861490 File: 32 KB, 640x480, I came here to laugh at you.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14861425

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 21:01:34 2016 No.14861562 >>14861436 Why would he take that? He would all probably still be in fourth at least with double riichi he can score ura dora + the 2 extra han

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 21:33:52 2016 No.14861666 >>14861562 Because he would be expecting a Renhou for Yakuman.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 21:35:40 2016 No.14861672 >>14861562 Why wouldn't you It's only East 4

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 22:23:32 2016 No.14861805 >>14861425 Btw, any recent double riichis with this scenario lately?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 23:24:59 2016 No.14862034 File: 171 KB, 900x632, 1456758757870.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] http://tenhou.net/5/?log=2016030213gm-0009-0000-56b2e6f7&tw=1&js=1 First Yakuman on the new account, second ever

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 23:32:05 2016 No.14862053 >>14862034 >Going for it when you have 8 The flow was with you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 23:35:48 2016 No.14862062 >>14862053 I didn't feel like going for open Chanta and I kept the hand ambiguous until I had 10 tiles of 10 different types. I felt that I had a better chance at Kokushi than piecing togehe a closed Chanta at that point

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 23:51:12 2016 No.14862108 I hate this rigged game so fucking much.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 00:04:11 2016 No.14862172 >>14862034 >1 player disconnected >you saved his undeserving ass

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 00:04:20 2016 No.14862173 File: 786 KB, 480x270, 1420051610513.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >17 games without a last place I can't wait for March to fuck my shit up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 00:11:42 2016 No.14862201 File: 1.42 MB, 2165x1495, RabbitRabbit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] As long as you said "rabbit, rabbit" when you woke up, everything will be fine. You did say it, right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 00:28:29 2016 No.14862251 File: 34 KB, 960x540, 960.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14862201 I said "ribbit, ribbit"

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 00:37:41 2016 No.14862277 >>14857389 >You tend to fall into the trap of 'good shapes', trying to take them and discarding terminals when it actually moves your hand backwards Haven't seen his replays, but what?

Anonymous Wed Mar 2 01:01:12 2016 No.14862363
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>>14862277
For example, getting this hand and discarding the 9p. It makes the shape of the hand look better, but it actually moves you back to 4 shanten. In his replays, a few times, he discarded kanchan shapes, like 6-7-7-9, cutting the 9, and moving his hand backwards.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 01:02:21 2016 No.14862371 >>14862277 Not the same guy, but I think it's like a case where he has a 13s and a stray 4m and he opts to discard the 1s instead of the 4m in the hopes of increasing his hand value, worsening his shanten.

Anonymous Wed Mar 2 01:20:48 2016 No.14862439
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>>14862363
Cutting 9 from 6779 is usually the right move because the wait on 8 is redundant.

9p is also the correct discard in that pictured hand. You move back a shanten, but you minimize the effect of backfires. 5/8p still advances the hand, and it's not much of a loss to have a lone 4p instead of a 46p, or a 4567p shape with a slight chance of furiten.

On the other hand, cutting 6m or any of the sou and then drawing 4/5/6/7/8m or 1/3/6/8s is far more disastrous. There's little point into rushing toward a tenpai that is both yakuless and a bad wait by keeping 9p.

Anonymous Wed Mar 2 01:28:35 2016 No.14862468

>>14862439
Moving back in shanten isn't desirable most of the time. If you want to keep the 6m with that hand, discarding 2s is better than 9p because it keeps your shanten at 3 and its efficiency isn't much worse for it.

You can discard the 9p when something sticks to 6m or 4p, but doing it before then just slows you down.

Furthermore the image was just to provide an example to a problem you can see in his replays.

Anonymous Wed Mar 2 01:35:22 2016 No.14862481

>>14862468
If you discard 2s, drawing 3s would set back your progress so badly that avoiding this backfire outweighs the nominal advancement in shanten that comes from keeping 9p.

I think this article sums it up pretty well:
http://justanotherjapanesemahjongblog.blogspot.com/2012/01/effective-tiles-repeatreceived-twice.html

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 01:35:33 2016 No.14862482 >>14862468 I guess it still depends on the situation he's in when he had that hand -- what his position is, what round it was, what stage of the game is he on, what is the dora and all that.

Anonymous Wed Mar 2 02:00:18 2016 No.14862556
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>>14862481
Drawing 3s after discarding 2s isn't a big backfire with this hand. It can still be used in a 3-5-7 ryankan, for example.

And yes, I am aware of that linked concept, but what you don't seem to notice is that none of the examples given involve discarding tiles that move your shanten count back. The article is about maximizing the ukeire of your 1 shanten hand by discarding overlapping shapes. This doesn't apply to the example hand because you're looking at two kanchan tatsu of 4-6 and 7-9. There's no irrelevant tiles here.

Anonymous Wed Mar 2 02:29:12 2016 No.14862681

>>14862556
The biggest issue is that this is a slow, marginal hand likely aiming for the highest chance of pinfu. The last hand in this riichi theory article is a good illustration of moving back a shanten on a bad shape.
http://justanotherjapanesemahjongblog.blogspot.com/2012/03/riichi-theory4-tenpai-that-have-no-yaku.html

Let's assume the best case results for keeping 9p. If you kept 9p and drew 8p, you would complete 789p and have 6m and 46p +11s. The net gain you receive here for discarding 2s instead of 9p is a slightly better but still bad kanchan 46p instead of a bad penchan 112s. To achieve this marginal benefit, you removed 4 effective tiles. This tradeoff is not worth it.

On the other hand, discarding 6m for better shanten would give up almost 20 effective manzu tiles that could improve your hand. The 557s shape is not very efficient, so missing a possible 5/7m in particular into ryanmen and pinfu and possible sanshoku is one of the worst things that could happen to this trash hand.

Anonymous Wed Mar 2 02:39:39 2016 No.14862726

>>14862681
Let's consider the other scenario where you discard 9p.

In the best case, if you draw 3s, you complete 123s and upon discarding 1s are left with floating tiles in every suit, 6m, 4p, and 557s, which provide you a very wide range of upgrade possibilities. To achieve this, you discarded 9p, which sets you back a shanten but left you with no sacrifice in effective tiles due to the core 67p ryanmen.

If you draw 8p upon discarding 9p, you will complete the 678p shape and have two isolated tiles 6m and 4p fishing for another ryanmen + 112s. The only difference is that you do not have 6p for 46p, which is a bad shape that adds no yaku and therefore not a particularly valuable loss. Compare this to losing out on a possible 123s or 56/67m.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 02:43:08 2016 No.14862734 >>14862726 You're not getting 123 sanshoku with that hand. It's ridiculous to suggest.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 02:46:10 2016 No.14862748 >>14862734 You get sanshoku with 567, which means the 2s is dropped for a pair of 1s, If you complete 123s, your hand advances by completing a penchan and you drop something else for a regular pinfu attempt. Win-win.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 02:48:54 2016 No.14862754 >>14862748 Alright. I don't really feel like arguing the point much more. Good luck.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 02:49:48 2016 No.14862756 File: 1.76 MB, 1920x1080, 16847704_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Get in here, nerds. Let your tiles do the talking. 2:0

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 02:54:13 2016 No.14862769 >>14862754 All right, thanks for the discussion. I know the sanshoku is a complicating factor for this particular discussion involving efficiency, so I would add that I'd drop the 9p every time even without the sanshoku possibility.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 03:22:41 2016 No.14862856 Oh man, that was a massacre

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 03:46:04 2016 No.14862934 File: 3.93 MB, 2548x1808, 36442080_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's "fun" time, lads. 2:4

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 03:50:26 2016 No.14862950 >>14862934 Me with the loli on my lap.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 03:52:49 2016 No.14862957 >>14862934 Now there's an eclectic mix of characters.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 04:04:25 2016 No.14862998 kami no waza

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 04:05:07 2016 No.14863000 >>14862934 You weren't lying.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 04:05:39 2016 No.14863003 >>14862950 I have a name you know

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 04:07:36 2016 No.14863007 File: 780 KB, 941x793, 36595225_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14863000 Ha, that was "fun". I got greedy and miss a few quick win.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 04:30:46 2016 No.14863077 File: 466 KB, 736x630, senile_akagi.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Must have been the one from Ten.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 04:35:20 2016 No.14863088 2:0 again.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 04:41:29 2016 No.14863109 >>14863077 Choosing to throw a live 6p against two dealer calls and an obvious chinitsu for a near-impossible late game dora tanki instead of discarding the completely safe nan pair and going for a normal hand? What could have possibly gone wrong?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 04:44:35 2016 No.14863123 File: 61 KB, 605x205, uh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14863077 He's having a bad day.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 07:11:36 2016 No.14863496 >>14863088 this

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 07:42:59 2016 No.14863572 File: 450 KB, 1272x720, [sheline][Nozomi] Saki - 18 (BD 720p).mp4_snapshot_11.38_[2016.02.24_23.46.57].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >when you touch the sand in the depths of hell and it's actually magical

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 08:37:46 2016 No.14863704 File: 86 KB, 1280x720, 1452118824797.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >it's another everyone's doing tsumo while i'm stuck with 5+ shanten starting hand episode

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 09:30:43 2016 No.14863890 >>14863704 I know that all too well. Right now I'm stuck watching the guy keeps making careless mistakes throughout the game and ends up winning with surprise baiman in S4 rerun.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 09:50:49 2016 No.14863947 I have small questions. Do you guys prefer a player with some name to an anonymous player when you play? Which online mahjong site do you guys like to play? (just out of curiosity)

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 09:54:22 2016 No.14863953 >>14863947 I prefer a name, something is more enjoyable about knowing who you're playing is the same guy. Plus they can share stats Tenhou, don't see any reason to go anywhere else

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 11:08:13 2016 No.14864200 File: 18 KB, 298x298, feels good.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >that feeling when you defeat and dumpster three opponents whose ranks are twice as yours

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 15:29:35 2016 No.14865240 >>14856363 2.0

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 17:15:03 2016 No.14865711 File: 223 KB, 633x710, pro.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14864200

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 17:39:34 2016 No.14865812 >>14863947 I'm using NoName for trash playing. I've been using Tenhou, Sega MJ, Tengokuhai, and MFC. Stick with Tenhou.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 17:58:54 2016 No.14865886 >>14863947 https://sites.google.com/site/mjnetguide/home Thanks to this piece of work. I'm balancing out with Sega MJ to play without the Tenhou ranking "stress and hell". Although, it comes with its out brutal ladder to climb.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 18:04:47 2016 No.14865903 2:0

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 18:40:09 2016 No.14866065 File: 207 KB, 1170x986, Untitled-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just fuck my gyakuten up, senpai.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 18:56:30 2016 No.14866148 >>14866065 How does it feel to be like Toyone?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 19:54:54 2016 No.14866369 >>14865711 To be fair I did hit a ballsy late ippatsu on a suji trap. Here's the replay - http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016030216gm-0089-0000-01671a09&tw=2

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 20:09:45 2016 No.14866426 Sono kimochi when you make a retarded mistake that keeps you from getting first.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 20:12:11 2016 No.14866431 File: 322 KB, 750x450, 11417363.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14866369 I don't think it counts as a trap when east is tenpai for chin iitsu and tsumogiris your winning tile the same turn.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 21:56:38 2016 No.14866780 File: 393 KB, 728x620, drxzpl_2016-03-03_02-54-16.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Double ron RIP BarneyGG

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 21:57:30 2016 No.14866786 >>14866780 The person in first going for the kill made sense, but the person in third doing it was weird.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 22:00:54 2016 No.14866798 >>14866786 Sti was just trying to get him to yell in mumble, he was pretty furious.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 22:04:13 2016 No.14866819 >>14866798 Ah, okay. Sorry for intruding on a game between friends.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 22:05:30 2016 No.14866824 >>14866819 Nah its fine, we didn't have a forth so. Was pretty scary when we saw your name popup.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 22:05:54 2016 No.14866826 File: 191 KB, 700x700, 31428153_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 2:0

Anonymous Wed Mar 2 22:07:30 2016 No.14866833

The beginning of Feburary had my ass entering 3dan for the first time, getting tons of 4ths, and then dropping from R1960 to R1750.

The beginning of March has my ass getting only 1st or 2nd and I'm one 1st away from 4dan/Tokujou with R1840.

Life is good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 22:49:46 2016 No.14866982 >>14865711 Riding your luck is a skill in itself

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 23:23:40 2016 No.14867067 File: 58 KB, 318x470, DESPAIR.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Made 4 dan after months >Keep getting 3rd so my R keeps tanking >Stuck in 4 dan 1740R hell

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 23:41:45 2016 No.14867103 File: 56 KB, 504x470, 1421432904497.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14867067 I told you about that 1700s 4d purgatory, man. I warned you dog.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 00:04:02 2016 No.14867158 >>14866982 So is riding your mom

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 00:06:01 2016 No.14867163 >>14867158 Shots fired

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 00:21:22 2016 No.14867207 >3:0

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 01:03:21 2016 No.14867325 noname a fucking shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 01:05:57 2016 No.14867331 File: 123 KB, 1280x720, 1456926759929.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14867325

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 01:08:29 2016 No.14867336 >>14867325 >queuing when there are NoNames in the lobby Part of mahjong is learning how to avoid mistakes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 02:03:18 2016 No.14867493 >>14867336 Your mom should have played more Mahjong back in the day then

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 02:24:37 2016 No.14867567 >>14867493 Hide your kids lads we've got a mom joker over here

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 02:42:09 2016 No.14867619 File: 741 KB, 740x630, boom.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016030316gm-0009-0000-e9b3024f&tw=1 1) Never give up. 2) Don't riichi when you're 30k in the lead and your wait is complete garbage.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 03:29:24 2016 No.14867769 >>14867619 What a clown.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 03:35:54 2016 No.14867786 File: 392 KB, 900x675, dd07e472b1a0ee0e2ce3ca439b506eb1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Get in here. 1:0

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 04:42:33 2016 No.14867990 File: 1020 KB, 1159x1040, SUCK MY RINSHAN FAGGOTS.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] OH SHIT IT HAPPENED

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 04:52:02 2016 No.14868012 >>14867990 >furiten Cute

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 04:52:15 2016 No.14868013 File: 614 KB, 732x1240, San-san goes from 3dan to 4dan on 3-3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Time to get bullied in Tokujou.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 04:59:05 2016 No.14868027 >>14868013 Congratulations. More fresh meat for me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 05:06:17 2016 No.14868047 >>14868027 I'll give you some meat, alright. Have mercy

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 05:08:20 2016 No.14868051 >>14868013 >3-san enters 4-dan Your time is over.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 05:09:52 2016 No.14868057 >>14868013 You're still in joukyuu though?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 05:11:51 2016 No.14868063 >>14868057 4-dan above 1800 qualifies for Tokujou.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 05:12:56 2016 No.14868066 File: 235 KB, 734x627, untouched.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14868057 I had just ranked up and it's 2:11 am. I'll try my first game in tokujou later.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 05:15:31 2016 No.14868076 File: 1.18 MB, 418x290, 1393586910140.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQEDojPZ7YI

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 05:18:12 2016 No.14868089 2:0

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 05:25:34 2016 No.14868110 File: 672 KB, 929x730, d375a645f179764d28f4764859e56bb1[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] At 8d, you unlock the ability to control the tiles that other players draw after they riichi.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 05:27:53 2016 No.14868115 >>14868110 That was brutal, man.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 05:45:06 2016 No.14868153 File: 275 KB, 728x526, 1431844825448.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >new mahjong manga >by Liar Game author Interesting >>14868110 >8d >not playing in houou Fucking coward.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 05:48:00 2016 No.14868161 >>14868153 Liar Game went to shit after Musical chairs

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 05:49:50 2016 No.14868167 >>14868161 He has tendency to prolong his series, yeah. Just read few arcs and then assume the protag lives happily ever after.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 05:52:47 2016 No.14868175 >>14868167 One Outs was good until the end, if you exclude extra volume with the all stars game.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 05:54:11 2016 No.14868185 >>14868175 It improves just a bit after those trio faggots, but the ending was an asspull.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 06:03:12 2016 No.14868204 >>14868153 Why does he have goggles?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 06:13:23 2016 No.14868248 >>14856363 2.0

Anonymous Thu Mar 3 06:28:01 2016 No.14868299

>>14863953, >>14865812, >>14865886

Thanks, guys.

I think every online mahjong site has both good and bad points.
As for Tenhou, I feel the graphics quality is outdated like ones we saw a decade ago.
Even though now we can play it without Flash by using its web version,
the GUI of that is completely crap to PC users since that's made for smartphones.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 06:35:04 2016 No.14868317 >>14868299 I'm using Tenhou because it's no-frills and pretty straightforward. No bullshit like avatar, pay2play, etc.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 07:01:53 2016 No.14868385 >>14868299 I'd play mjnet if they replaced those god awful looking tiles in your hand.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 07:05:52 2016 No.14868397 >>14868299 Use the Windows client. >>14868317 I don't care about avatars, but when they force you to pay to play a full hanchan that's just bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 07:10:07 2016 No.14868413 >>14868397 You can't play full hanchans on MJ-NET outside of private matches. I know, it's baffling.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 08:56:24 2016 No.14868795 >>14856363 2.0

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 09:01:02 2016 No.14868803 >>14868795 3.0

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 09:03:39 2016 No.14868813 File: 376 KB, 854x480, Screenshot_2016-03-03-08-54-17.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's no Daisangen, but the complementary Shousangen is always nice

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 09:19:44 2016 No.14868857 File: 119 KB, 1000x1000, 1453663330612.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw game ends at E1

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 09:20:56 2016 No.14868863 >>14868803 again

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 09:49:48 2016 No.14868947 The guy who said ippan and joukyuu are the same is a fucking liar.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 13:14:07 2016 No.14869620 >Cracks >Dots >Bamboos Someone needs to make a version of dynaman's book with more /jp/ friendly terminology.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 13:32:59 2016 No.14869688 >>14868413 I'm actually using Sega Mahjong for some tonpuu training.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 13:34:04 2016 No.14869692 >>14868299 If you want to see what outdated looks like, check out Ron2.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 13:36:05 2016 No.14869700 File: 531 KB, 654x555, why.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why couldn't I ron here?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 13:39:23 2016 No.14869714 >>14869700 Temporary furiten on 1m.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 13:39:34 2016 No.14869716 >>14869700 Temporary furiten on toimen's 1m.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 13:44:55 2016 No.14869729 >>14869700 Consult the flowchart >>14856691

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 13:49:25 2016 No.14869737 >>14869714 >>14869716 Thanks for that. Fuck toimen. I drew his 2p right after too. >>14869729 I did. Hadn't had an instance where temporary furiten was used against me before.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 15:36:22 2016 No.14870077 >I riichi, everyone discards safer than an MCs virginity >Someone else riichis, dealt into the second round I dunno if I just telegraph my hand with discards or what, but this seems to happen to me too fucking often.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 16:03:07 2016 No.14870203 File: 174 KB, 1014x713, a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why is this allowed?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 16:46:08 2016 No.14870322 >>14870077 Been there. I remedy this by setting up suji traps or saying damaten. You should be mindful of obvious patterns like toi toi or honitsu

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 17:17:37 2016 No.14870413 >>14870077 >turn 7 riichi >1m and 4m both are live and haven't been discarded yet >turns out everyone else already has 6 total in their hands >they're too scared to drop them >lose riichi battle to toimen with shanpon wait

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 17:49:31 2016 No.14870499 >>14870203 What?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 17:50:59 2016 No.14870507 >>14870499 3-dan R1850 and 1-dan in ippan.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 17:54:01 2016 No.14870519 File: 420 KB, 739x629, decisions.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The guaranteed dora or the chance for Sanankou?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 17:56:59 2016 No.14870532 >>14870519 Both have 3 outs, and I doubt anyone would deal either. I'd discard the 9m and keep it dama, just wait for the round draw.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 18:32:45 2016 No.14870677 File: 46 KB, 393x294, Untitled-1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Third day of the third month, in three games I placed third three times in a row. I bet the jews did this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 18:52:59 2016 No.14870793 >>14870519 Either way there are 3 winning tiles. Just based on hand values, I would probably dump the 8 man and riichi, but entirely possible someone is in tenpai and could cost a lot.

Anonymous Thu Mar 3 19:13:13 2016 No.14870876

>>14870077
What are your waits when that happens? How many outs are left typically? Was it necessary for you to riichi with your hands or could you have stayed in damaten?
These things are just natural, but if it happens too often there must've been something wrong with your waits.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 19:21:35 2016 No.14870917 >>14870507 They're both allowed in ippan. Although, the 3-dan really shouldn't be playing there, unless he's one game away from getting into tokujou.

Anonymous Thu Mar 3 20:05:13 2016 No.14871121

>>14870519
B looks a little suspicious. Very possible he's damaten waiting on the dora. There's not many turns left, you might be better off staying silent on the pen 7m and just aiming for a ryuukyoku renchan. San Ankou would be nice but with the low amount of winning tiles and only having four more draws, you're probably just throwing points away.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 20:43:52 2016 No.14871298 File: 454 KB, 964x653, Gold when.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] OK. I'm kicking ass. I still have my free ranked play ticket. Should I keep playing or be happy with this? Also, gimme muh money?

Anonymous Thu Mar 3 20:50:51 2016 No.14871315

>>14871298
You could improve that score with one more 1st place, at least. The class stuff pays out weekly, as it says in the top right. And before you get your hopes up, that's 300G in chips, not actual gold.

There is only one way to get GOLD gold, and you'd better be careful if you get it, because the game will not hesitate to drain it if you don't take the proper precautions.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 21:07:41 2016 No.14871379 >>14871315 >You could improve that score with one more 1st place, at least. Is there any risk of replacing any of those positive scores with a negative one?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 21:10:18 2016 No.14871387 >>14871379 No, any score lower or equal to one already there will be ignored. It's just a sum of your best 4 games during the aggregate period.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 21:15:01 2016 No.14871400 >>14871387 Sorry, I worded that poorly, but I think my point got through. I'll clarify just in case. Anything that would bring your score down will not apply. Only results that will improve your score will be.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 21:16:37 2016 No.14871406 >2:0

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 21:31:46 2016 No.14871463 File: 136 KB, 1080x810, 1394786511705.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14871379 >>14871387 Well, I must say. Today's win streak was massively addicting. So delicious.

Anonymous Thu Mar 3 22:04:48 2016 No.14871593
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>>14870519
>>14870532
>>14870793
>>14871121
Maybe staying damaten was the right decision, but I was pretty sure I could (and had to) draw my winning tile since everyone else either were using my outs or were too scared to drop 'em.

You all brought up interesting points that I need to consider in my game. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 22:21:59 2016 No.14871640 File: 100 KB, 738x631, WWYD.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Last tile so if you guess wrong you pay Haitei

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 22:23:24 2016 No.14871644 >>14871640 6-sou No haitei for anyone

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 22:23:37 2016 No.14871646 >>14871640 6s.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 22:28:04 2016 No.14871660 >>14871640 I would blindly go for the +1000 and play 6s.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 22:31:51 2016 No.14871671 >>14871640 I'd need to know when the 5 man was called, but without that, I'd say the 7 man.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 22:47:58 2016 No.14871735 >>14871640 Kan

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 22:48:20 2016 No.14871736 >>14871640 6s looks fairly safe

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 22:52:11 2016 No.14871753 >>14871735 You can't kan on the last draw.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 22:52:54 2016 No.14871756 >>14871753 Well, shit, then the 6s.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 23:00:13 2016 No.14871783 >>14871640 7m actually looks safest because a kanchan using the last 8m is the only possible wait, while 6s has shanpon as well as a kanchan possibility using the red 5. I'm guessing he was waiting on 6s because why else would you post this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 23:21:54 2016 No.14871841 File: 111 KB, 733x623, WWYD Result.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Wouldn't have actually cost much

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 23:26:53 2016 No.14871854 >>14871640 Naka suji with 6-sou. However, since you made the screenshot at this point -- I guess kamicha had a bastard 6-sou kanchan, huh?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 23:27:55 2016 No.14871855 >>14871854 >>14871841 Nevermind. That was an easy read.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 23:28:48 2016 No.14871857 >>14871841 He did have the 68m kanchan after all. Oh well. I'm not sure if I would have noticed that 7m is theoretically safer and then dealt in with it, or discarded the 6s for tenpai.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 23:35:50 2016 No.14871875 >>14871841 Double suji trap. 4p and 6m are obviously dangerous, so it took me a bit to figure out which one to play. Ura dora could have been brutal on a direct deal against 4th place.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 23:39:45 2016 No.14871888 >>14871841 This is why you need to know when the 5 man was thrown out. If it were before riichi, the 7 man would most likely be the right answer, unless he threw away pinfu and a better wait, but afterwords, it could be either.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 23:59:55 2016 No.14871967 >2:0

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 00:06:01 2016 No.14871988 3:0

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 00:19:12 2016 No.14872047 File: 1.26 MB, 3264x1836, P_20160304_130728.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] That anon who asked about jansou few days ago. I did it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 00:22:22 2016 No.14872063 File: 416 KB, 728x620, nfcflv.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Time for another one. WWYD

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 00:35:00 2016 No.14872121 >>14872063 2m. There's no point in discarding anything else, since your entire hand is risky tiles.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 00:39:22 2016 No.14872139 >>14872063 2p is probably safest but I would probably just deal the 8s back in since I see 3 of the 6s. If he had a 579 then you are in trouble either way but that also means he doesn't have tanyao, nothing is actually safe.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 00:44:26 2016 No.14872167 >>14872047 So, how was it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 00:53:06 2016 No.14872201 >9 people in lobby CLICK THE BUTTON AND PLAY

Anonymous Fri Mar 4 00:58:00 2016 No.14872220
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>>14872167
Very nice. The first time I played in real table, it's damn hard to flip those tiles like in movies or pro videos. Had fuckup twice that made my tiles scattered, and I had to be reminded many times to move wall forward and place correct position for called tile. Also, I completely forgot on how to count hand and give score sticks, but luckily there's a staff joining me, so that's fine.

About the game itself, it's actually not bad. 2 games, 1st and 3rd. Some interesting parts
>someone called kan on 1st draw, and then 4 kan-dora. He won that hand by ron.
>I got ippatsumo that made me won a game
>I fucked up on multi-side furiten wait, had to pay chombo

Maybe I will go again tomorrow.

Anonymous Fri Mar 4 00:59:22 2016 No.14872225
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>tell myself I need to step up my game
>e1: great starting hand, haku, hatsu, honitsu iishanten
>not one fucking second into the game: click on incorrect tile, fuck up a mentsu and furiten that wait
>massive Windows the toilet

>e3: going for chiitoi dora dora
>kamicha riichi
>must cut tile adjacent to his riichi discard to advance hand
>remind myself of all the times I've dealt into that ridiculously dangerous area
>risk it anyways
>deal in like a fucking gimp glutton for punishment
>end game 4th

And then I see the folks in 7447 in the R1800s and die inside

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 01:00:51 2016 No.14872228 >>14872225 There are tokujou players roaming around in 7447.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 01:01:07 2016 No.14872229 >>14872220 Smoking or non-smoking? Was it mostly old players?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 01:02:26 2016 No.14872236 >>14872220 Did you go to a non-smoking one?

Anonymous Fri Mar 4 01:04:41 2016 No.14872243

>>14872229
>>14872236
Smoking. I'm fine with that, and I don't know if Shibuton has non-smoking place.

In my games, kamicha was the parlor staff, quite young, toimen was about 30-ish, and shimocha was around late 40. Didn't dare to ask though, just by appearance.

During my 2nd game, there was another group playing, seems like work colleagues. Including an old lady. I was looking at my tiles, so didn't pay much attention to them.

Also, I fucking love automatic tables.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 01:18:04 2016 No.14872314 File: 156 KB, 615x718, 1393421081299.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14872225 Well, the more games you play, the more you will learn. How fast you learn and how much you play, that's entirely up to you.

Anonymous Fri Mar 4 01:29:47 2016 No.14872389
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>>14872121
>>14872139
This is how it ended. I lost the game because of that deal in but don't feel that bad at all since I don't think I made that big of a mistake, I just forgot that sujis of the riichi'd tile are dangerous.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 01:34:06 2016 No.14872413 File: 895 KB, 1280x720, 1456318524249.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Rinshan Thank you mahjong gods, I'll gladly take that 2nd place.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 01:36:26 2016 No.14872420 >>14856363 3.0

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 02:49:25 2016 No.14872675 Completed two rinshan kaihou hands out of the two kans in my three games in tokujou today. Maybe this lobby has a luck modifier, too! Also first third place of the month, fuck.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 02:56:31 2016 No.14872691 http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016030416gm-0089-0000-793f3154&tw=3 I thought this month was going to be another bad one, but it turns out I was wrong. Why is the north starting seat so broken?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 02:56:57 2016 No.14872692 I dread the day someone posts a screencap of one of my completer fuck ups.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 02:58:40 2016 No.14872697 >>14872220 Are you fluent in Japanese? Do you think they would mind if someone with minimal knowledge of the language wanted to play?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 02:58:47 2016 No.14872698 >>14872692 You get used to the ridicule eventually.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 02:59:26 2016 No.14872700 >>14872691 Is this joukyuu? Why is this 5dan being a little bitch?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 03:01:43 2016 No.14872703 >>14872700 Yup. I wondered the same thing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 03:28:05 2016 No.14872765 File: 345 KB, 1024x768, kakuhenbanrai_blue.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Here's a nice background for the Tenhou client I found somewhere years ago.

Anonymous Fri Mar 4 03:36:23 2016 No.14872794

>>14872697
Absolutely not, at most I'm N3 or even N4.
If you know mahjong rule and some very basic nips, you can go. Most of the time, the game was quite silent, only at counting hand and if you want to order something. Shibuton also provides warm towel, very nice in this winter.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 03:42:36 2016 No.14872820 File: 55 KB, 1024x768, CAea-TAUYAE4ySr.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14872765 I'll trade you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 03:57:07 2016 No.14872852 >>14872691 Isn't the game supposed to continue when the dealer wins?

Anonymous Fri Mar 4 03:59:10 2016 No.14872858

>>14872852
The dealer overtook first place. Since it was S4, the game ends there.

>>14868947
I'm not that anon, but it felt they were not too much different.
Sure, they're a little bit faster and their defense is a little bit better, but it comes down to you picking your battles. You can't win every hand and be super aggressive like you could be in ippan, so you have to change styles. There might be an adjustment period while you transition.

That's a huge understatement: I ragequitted and would play new accounts for days at a time this month until I manned up, grinded, and got into tokujou

If someone calls twice and you're far off from completing a hand, consider betaori. If someone declares riichi and you're not in tenpai or not iishanten with a big hand, betaori.

I climbed from 3dan 440/1200 R1750 to 4dan R1860 in 34 games over 10 days by playing super passive. If you're super skilled. you obviously can do it much faster with a more aggressive style, but that's not me.

Don't forget there's games when you have the flow on your side and you complete hands with no one being able to stop you. Also don't forget that won't happen every game. You will also have games when you can barely complete a hand and you have to claw your way into 3rd place. Accept that you can't win every game.

Don't carry frustrations from previous games into later games. Play it one game at a time. You're going to be playing tons of online games to grind that rank, after all. There's no rush.

I also recommend playing only a few games a day. If your thirst for mahjong isn't satisfied after 2-4 games, play in 7447.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 04:03:52 2016 No.14872870 >>14872852 Agariyame. When the dealer wins or is tenpai in all last, if they are in 1st place, they can choose not to continue the dealership, ending the game. Some variants let you pass on continuing your dealership in any round, not just all last.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 04:10:56 2016 No.14872894 >>14872870 >Some variants let you pass on continuing your dealership in any round, not just all last. I wish tenhou allowed this. If it's south 3 and I wanna take my chances rushing a cheap hand in south 4 for first, I should have that right.

Anonymous Fri Mar 4 05:21:39 2016 No.14873072

>>14872858
>Don't carry frustrations from previous games into later games.
This has been one of the most helpful things that improved my game -- keeping my composure. Sure, it hurts that you get hit by a baiman early on and you're immediately down the dumps. Someone can also do an oikake riichi and ippatsu tsumo it. Whatever the situation is, always maintain your composure and play the game on. You can't have yourself dwelling on the loss the whole game, or even the following ones. Reflect on your mistakes and move on.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 07:08:20 2016 No.14873259 File: 1.88 MB, 275x319, 20130622181411.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 1:0.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 07:26:24 2016 No.14873293 3:0 now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 08:00:43 2016 No.14873384 >>14873293 again

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 08:27:31 2016 No.14873462 wew

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 08:28:18 2016 No.14873464 >>14856363 it's a motherfucking kokushi

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 08:28:35 2016 No.14873465 File: 282 KB, 897x548, 1452444134158.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What the fuck.

Anonymous Fri Mar 4 10:27:57 2016 No.14873776
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So far tokujou has been interesting.

Three 1st places. Two was from playing carefully, winning a few select hands and not dealing in at all. One was from having the flow.

One 2nd place. Dealt in once to a heavy hand and lost my lead. One 3rd place. Similar to what happened in my second place game, but I dealt in for a total of 3 times.

Three 4th places. Two was a result of me not accepting 3rd place and dealing in during all-last, and one was from me being on tilt and dealing into every hand.

Need to follow my own advice and not play so many games in one sitting. The last five games have me either placing first or last, which is typically what happens when I'm not playing optimally.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 12:25:56 2016 No.14874112 that feeling when you declaring double riichi actually cheapened the hand and you would have a larger hand if you had waited two turns.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 13:06:46 2016 No.14874226 http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016030502gm-0029-0000-3e7f7fff&tw=2 >Houou player gets what he deserves for playing in Tokujou

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 13:10:30 2016 No.14874237 >>14874226 Justice

Anonymous Fri Mar 4 13:34:48 2016 No.14874308
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Trying to up my tile efficientcy to see how fast I can riichi. Figured I'd keep the kid occupied at the same time.

She has better random discards than my actual betaori attempts

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 13:53:19 2016 No.14874396 >>14874308 So young and already a lesbian. Impressive.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 14:20:15 2016 No.14874492 >>14874308 If you can afford a kid, you can afford a mat.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 15:20:40 2016 No.14874681 >>14874492 >sell kid >buy mat Problem solved.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 15:22:42 2016 No.14874690 >>14874681 >Not gambling the kid

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 15:25:36 2016 No.14874700 >>14874690 >Not letting the kid win you funds for the mat by letting her play You said so yourself. She's a defense master.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 16:03:31 2016 No.14874824 File: 52 KB, 123x319, how.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] HOW

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 16:05:46 2016 No.14874830 File: 147 KB, 632x576, 1333488332707.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14874824 Achiga should just quit mahjong and go straight into prostitution.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 16:08:25 2016 No.14874840 0:0

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 16:10:22 2016 No.14874849 >>14874840 1:0 Come at me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 16:16:59 2016 No.14874867 What makes mahjong so addictive?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 16:21:00 2016 No.14874879 File: 379 KB, 347x582, 1453699327322.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14874867 It's fun

Anonymous Fri Mar 4 16:30:45 2016 No.14874910
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>>14874867
Conditioning. Gambling in general works because of variable ratio schedules. That is, the mere fact of not knowing when you're going to be rewarded (ie. winning a hand or game) reinforces the behavior, playing, more than if you won every time. Casinos and mobile game devs are masters at exploiting this.

In short, it's fun.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 16:32:42 2016 No.14874915 >>14874867 Because we are very very stupid people.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 16:42:52 2016 No.14874952 >>14874910 People would play MORE if they won every time

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 16:44:33 2016 No.14874957 kusoge

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 16:49:24 2016 No.14874970 >>14874957 You wanted that chung, man?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 16:49:47 2016 No.14874972 File: 470 KB, 734x627, Keksangen.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm not playing, but it was amusing seeing this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 16:55:02 2016 No.14874989 >>14874972 I'll never know why he refused to throw the pei.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 16:56:20 2016 No.14874996 >>14874989 I wasn't watching the game but he was probably keeping it as a safe tile.

Anonymous Fri Mar 4 16:58:05 2016 No.14875001

>>14874989
To be frank, I wasn't paying full attention, but I had a wealth of safe tiles, so I prioritized the ones that had just passed, leaving the safer ones for last. I did miss a discard on the pei the round I think the toimen had discarded it, but other than that, I just had other safe tiles to play.

Except the 3m I played later on, that was plain stupid and I shouldn't have done that, even if it passed.

Anonymous Fri Mar 4 17:01:24 2016 No.14875011

>>14875001
>I did miss a discard on the pei the round I think the toimen had discarded it,
That was what I was referring to.

Also, on your dealer turn after that, you should have discarded the 9 sou when you picked up the 6 sou. You would have gotten into tenpai faster and added tan yao.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 17:08:16 2016 No.14875030 >>14875011 You mean when I picked the red 5 sou? I cut the 9p then because I had a pinzu tile too many and bzzz was going for a pinzu honitsu, so I didn't want to keep the extra pinzu for too long.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 17:13:34 2016 No.14875045 >>14875011 No. If I remember right, two or three turns before he got his hatsu, you picked up a 6 sou and discarded it instead of the useless 9 sou. Then you picked up the last 6 sou and would have been in tenpai.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 17:17:33 2016 No.14875064 >>14875045 For >>14875030

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 17:17:47 2016 No.14875065 File: 618 KB, 800x1366, 12sadasd.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14875045

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 17:21:24 2016 No.14875077 File: 106 KB, 554x439, shrugs.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14875065 Then my replay fucked up like usual.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 17:50:39 2016 No.14875182 File: 4 KB, 46x447, asdasd.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14870677 The 4th and the 1st were in 7447. Save me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 17:53:29 2016 No.14875191 >>14875182 I feel like that's impressive in its own right.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 17:54:32 2016 No.14875196 >>14875182 Take more risks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 18:37:32 2016 No.14875470 >>14874952 No you would get bored quicker than you think

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 20:18:58 2016 No.14875975 I'm gonna make it to tokujou, guys. Just watch me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 20:55:22 2016 No.14876127 File: 278 KB, 1223x1049, b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Do you think it's a good idea to push for this hand?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 21:00:38 2016 No.14876159 >>14876127 The first tile you draw right after someone's riichi is always dangerous.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 21:02:39 2016 No.14876172 >>14876127 No.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 21:09:46 2016 No.14876211 File: 318 KB, 1227x1027, bullshit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14876159 >>14876172 I just got extremely lucky then. I'll be more careful next time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 21:43:22 2016 No.14876359 File: 184 KB, 548x600, mu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Shall we? 2:0

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 22:12:23 2016 No.14876497 File: 110 KB, 730x626, That was painful.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] That was painful

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 22:25:04 2016 No.14876552 >>14875182 I thought I was the king of third since I got 34% thirds in the last 60 games. I see now that I am merely a prince.

Anonymous Fri Mar 4 22:56:12 2016 No.14876696
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Playing mahjong makes me rethink of my life. Abandoned progress for the sake of "fun".
Not that I regret much of it.

But shit's getting stale, both life and jong.
Anyway, wonder if I should aim for higher lobby.

Is tokujou/houou "fun"?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 23:17:58 2016 No.14876775 Can't for the life of me get over 1300 IIpan 4ever

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 23:18:18 2016 No.14876776 >>14876696 I don't know if anyone in these threads has reached houou, but the whole appeal of ranking up is to give yourself a goal to move towards, as well as the challenge of playing better opponents. If either of those sound good to you then maybe.

Anonymous Fri Mar 4 23:19:53 2016 No.14876783
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>oh look, another jansou
>blindly entered
>turned out it's rated jansou
>with gimmicks like special red 3 pin and kan = free points
>can run out 10k yen within single hanchan

Lesson learned: always ask first if it's no-rate if you're not lesbian enough.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 23:23:50 2016 No.14876800 >>14876783 What do they do to you if you can't pay?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 23:25:50 2016 No.14876810 >>14876800 There's steak restaurant below, I guess that's where I might end up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 23:44:57 2016 No.14876870 File: 2.40 MB, 1600x1118, kaiji kazuya01_075and076.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14876810 If this is the restaurant, then you might be on to something...

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 00:33:01 2016 No.14877021 File: 451 KB, 835x1200, 021.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14856363 FURITEN IS THE WAY

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 00:45:28 2016 No.14877057 >>14877021 Absolute madman

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 01:04:28 2016 No.14877099
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>>14875182
And now add two 4th places.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016030514gm-0089-0000-6dfb6986&tw=1
>Get into 1shanten from daisangen
>Roned by kamicha
>Two hands later, get into 1shanten from kokushi
>Cockblocked by kamicha
>Next hand, get into 1shanten from Suu ankou
>Tsumo by kamicha
>somehow survive with 300 points, make a small comeback to 4300
>Ronned to death

Good bye, world.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 01:13:35 2016 No.14877121 2:4

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 01:15:44 2016 No.14877126 I've been getting better results when playing in Ari nored, and East only Reds just fuck my shit up

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 01:17:03 2016 No.14877129 >>14877121 3.4

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 01:40:37 2016 No.14877222 File: 278 KB, 705x601, 1432958977792.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >2:12

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 01:47:48 2016 No.14877244 >>14877126 Back when I first started playing I played nashi and played fairly decent. I should give it another shot one day but playing with reds is way more fun.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 01:48:44 2016 No.14877249 >>14877222 Make that 3:12

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 02:16:33 2016 No.14877351 AROUND TRAKSS, NEVER RELAX

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 02:17:15 2016 No.14877354 Never got a Shousangen before

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 02:31:03 2016 No.14877407 File: 445 KB, 739x626, So blocked.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 03:09:52 2016 No.14877515 File: 6 KB, 222x227, 1457070779358.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14877351 I was smiling the whole game while thinking wtf is goin on. And that last 4m, my netbook overheated and discarded whatever is at the rightmost.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 03:47:59 2016 No.14877639 Speaking of mobile game devs, anyone play on mobile? Which app?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 03:57:21 2016 No.14877661 http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016030517gm-0089-0000-b7dd73f1&tw=0&ts=7 One of the few games where I'd be happy to end up negative -- 'cause someone else is in a deeper red.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 04:11:55 2016 No.14877689 >>14877639 Tengokuhai and MFC. But personally I don't play it in mobile, especially for multiplayer. Not enough time to do it on mobile.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 04:58:33 2016 No.14877795 >>14877244 Oh man I sure love dealing into damaten sanshoku with 3 red fives. That's really fun.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 05:11:43 2016 No.14877838 >>14877795 Yeah well that's the point Red fives spice the game up

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 05:13:52 2016 No.14877846 >>14877838 That's what the regular dora and uradora is for.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 05:17:38 2016 No.14877859 Red fives are so bullshit not even FKMT uses them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 05:19:41 2016 No.14877861 >>14877859 He uses them as a plot device

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 05:20:07 2016 No.14877863 >>14877859 Akagi is happening like 30 or 40 years ago tho, there are some rules that aren't used anymore, like the one for double ron

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 05:22:36 2016 No.14877872 >>14877863 No professional leagues use red fives for a reason. It's a jansou thing, that's it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 05:51:46 2016 No.14877914 3:0.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 06:56:44 2016 No.14878036 >>14876783 AFAIK all no-rate jansou say ノーレート　and/or フリー on them. >>14877639 近代麻雀オールスターズ闘牌伝 You can play as dozens of characters from Kindai Mahjong and you get light superpowers depending on the character.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 07:08:09 2016 No.14878059 File: 102 KB, 640x480, lewd.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is there an easy way to get around the region blocking for mj net's mobile client? I wanna get comfy in bed and play.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 07:13:54 2016 No.14878075 >>14878059 If it's about installing, download it from APKPure and install with their XAPK Installer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 07:14:17 2016 No.14878077 >>14878036 They put that in their billboard? That's good, gonna look more careful next time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 07:15:19 2016 No.14878078 Fuck, I missed out on the chance to play the 5 and 6 dan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 07:16:33 2016 No.14878081 >>14878078 Just get to tokujou :^)

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 07:17:13 2016 No.14878083 >>14878077 Yeah, you can even see them here >>14872047 Is this Tokyo btw?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 07:17:50 2016 No.14878085 File: 26 KB, 240x390, 1456635749469.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14878081 I'm trying.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 07:19:27 2016 No.14878090 >>14878083 I didn't pay much attention. I just see 'oh, that's mahjong tile' then enter. Both are in Shibuya, maybe I'll try Shinjuku or Akiba next time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 09:35:07 2016 No.14878405 I thought I was going to get out of my 2dan hell, but in the end I'm still too weak to go past it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 09:41:51 2016 No.14878420 File: 445 KB, 738x625, which tile.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I still remain terrible at reading these waits.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 09:47:29 2016 No.14878438 >>14878420 http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/bamboo/bamboo.html

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 09:50:16 2016 No.14878450 File: 384 KB, 739x630, don't need no bamboo game.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14878438 Thanks. Maybe later.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 10:01:35 2016 No.14878495 >>14878420 Is there any other way to stay in tenpai for this hand other than discarding 8s I can't see it

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 10:08:43 2016 No.14878525 >>14878495 2s

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 10:14:57 2016 No.14878540 >>14878495 There were multiple tiles lit up, but I didn't take a pic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 11:09:16 2016 No.14878763 >>14878420 How come you didn't go for ryuu ii sou? It was only two tiles away so I think it was definitely possible. Even more so when you drew the 2s later.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 11:30:09 2016 No.14878854 >>14878763 It might have been possible, but aiming for such shapes seems a bit much. I'd rather win when I can.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 11:38:36 2016 No.14878883 Man, whenever I stop by 7447, there are only a few idling people and absolutely no games. When the heck should I stop by then?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 11:38:54 2016 No.14878884 >>14878763 Get your head out of the clouds and play to win.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 11:43:55 2016 No.14878908 >>14878883 Wait in a game and post "1:0" in here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 11:58:58 2016 No.14878949 I'm going to make a compilation of voice files from Akagi to use in the client. Are there any characters in particular anyone wants?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 12:09:19 2016 No.14878978 >>14878883 I usually juast wait for /jp/ post or make one

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:11:43 2016 No.14879108 File: 109 KB, 732x626, Hell wait delivers.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:17:51 2016 No.14879124 File: 233 KB, 1029x760, deserved it.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14879108 I just got flashbacks to yesterday.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:33:36 2016 No.14879170 File: 306 KB, 737x628, Tsumo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14879124 I partially regret not going Kokushi 13. But of course, y'take zero chances for bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:38:42 2016 No.14879198 Another houhou player playing in tokujou getting fourth again. Justice lives on. http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016030603gm-0029-0000-28f2224f&tw=0

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 15:36:34 2016 No.14879635 Tsumo galore, motherfuckers. > Haneman early, no deal-in 2nd > Deal in 1000pt which I took back 2900 4th

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 17:31:38 2016 No.14880088 File: 497 KB, 1280x720, [HorribleSubs] Osomatsu-san - 21 [720p].mkv_snapshot_07.31_[2016.02.29_15.55.39].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 2:0

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 22:26:05 2016 No.14881266 2:4

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 22:33:30 2016 No.14881297 7 dora, can't get into tenpai. Fuck this shit

Anonymous Sat Mar 5 23:46:29 2016 No.14881537
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4 dan R1700s hell is brutal. I have to win more than I lose just to keep from dropping back toward 3 dan which is horrible for an aggressive player. I guess if this keeps up I will eventually make R1800, but it's intense.

>16+10+12+12

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 00:29:45 2016 No.14881692 File: 371 KB, 741x633, 2 shit lords.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Have mercy

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 00:31:12 2016 No.14881698 File: 106 KB, 600x780, houou.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14881692 >that 7d kamicha Pic related, it's him.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 00:41:55 2016 No.14881744 File: 390 KB, 738x628, status.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Still in there, boys

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 00:43:19 2016 No.14881749 >>14881698 I keep staring at this picture in-between discards.

Anonymous Sun Mar 6 00:54:59 2016 No.14881788
File: 373 KB, 735x629, busted out during all-last.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>Houhou players getting blown the fuck out once again

I'll take it.

If kamicha didn't declare riichi on E3 I would have been third. He had a good three-sided wait, too, but toimen's flow was strong enough to overcome it with kanchan wait.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 01:05:47 2016 No.14881818 File: 422 KB, 747x635, west side story.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] wtf is happening

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 01:25:21 2016 No.14881891 >>14881818 Looks like south noticed west is withholding the shas he needed and decided to change to chin itsu instead.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 01:36:14 2016 No.14881922 I actually managed to free up space for next Saturday, so look like I'll can make that Socal mahjong meetup after all.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 01:37:55 2016 No.14881928 >>14881818 West should've kan'd his xias for the opportunity to get his free sweet sweet doras.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 01:41:47 2016 No.14881940 >>14881922 >*looks like I can

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 01:54:30 2016 No.14881974 File: 30 KB, 260x371, Gyanki-Hen v05 p008.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14881818 >>14881891

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 02:08:38 2016 No.14882037 What starting seat do you prefer?

Anonymous Sun Mar 6 02:25:14 2016 No.14882082

>>14882037
North easily because you can stop once you get to first. There aren't many things are as frustrating as starting South 4 up 35k and ending up second.

>>14881692
>>14881744
I've been noticing that people playing in lower rooms tends to be because they are playing like shit and presumably getting rolled in their proper room. I had a Joukyuu game earlier with multiple rated 6 dan and ended up first.

Someone just moving to Houou is very likely to get destroyed and feel a need to back off to Tokujou to try to build up points. They still deserve to get punished for trying to pick on weaker opponents.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 02:38:48 2016 No.14882122 >2:0

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 02:40:25 2016 No.14882127 >>14882122 3:0

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 02:57:39 2016 No.14882172 >>14881818 So this is the power of Houou players.

Anonymous Sun Mar 6 03:01:01 2016 No.14882184

>>14882082
There are Rate requirements for all of the upper rooms. What's more likely is that they can't play in Houou because they've fallen below 2k Rate, not because they want to pick on weaker opponents.

Also you can't really glean anything about anyone from one hanchan.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 03:04:06 2016 No.14882189 >>14882184 You see their rating when the game starts if it is over 1800 and can tell pretty quickly. When someone keeps dealing into ippatsu you can tell they aren't playing well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 03:16:21 2016 No.14882225 >>14881537 >4 dan R1700s hell is brutal Yes, it is. To progress forward, you'll need a ratio of 2:1 regarding firsts and fourths. Otherwise, you'll either stagnate or tank. >16+10+12+12 And something like that won't really do.

Anonymous Sun Mar 6 03:28:53 2016 No.14882270

>>14882225
>ratio of 2:1 regarding firsts and fourths

That's not really practicable over the long run aside from short lucky win streaks.

An average placement of 2.35 or under should be enough. Most people stuck in 4d 1700s for a long time are usually at 2.40-2.45 or so.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 03:36:40 2016 No.14882296 >>14856363 3.0

Anonymous Sun Mar 6 03:45:43 2016 No.14882325

>>14882225
I'm climbing rating significantly and slightly increasing my points. As long as my R keeps rising while I gain points slowly I will eventually make it.

I was stuck at 3 dan for months (including falling to 2 dan once and one game from falling a second time) because I kept playing like I did in ippan (very high win rate, extremely very high deal in rate).

I've been reading up on defense and I still have two main problems: I fall for Suji traps all the time and I have no sense of when someone is in damaten.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 04:13:17 2016 No.14882407 Usually when houou players play in tokujou, it's only because houou is empty.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 04:17:48 2016 No.14882414 I don't know why I play at 4 in the morning when I just get wrecked every time. Well at least it wasn't in ranked.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 04:18:26 2016 No.14882416 File: 407 KB, 727x625, Attempted chuuren.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Mangan? Fuck winning. Give me my chuuren, where opportunity might spring up once ever 800 games or so.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 05:12:29 2016 No.14882518 >playan >shimocha called 2 pin tiles and has zero pin discard >oh he must have hon itsu or something >discard 6 pin >shimocha calls ron Fucking rigged game

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 09:18:37 2016 No.14883089 File: 306 KB, 1227x1027, who honitsu here.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This was scary.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 09:25:19 2016 No.14883107 >>14883089 There's something missing in your picture Can you guess what is it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 09:30:06 2016 No.14883122 >>14883107 No, what?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 09:37:00 2016 No.14883152 >>14883122 The Stick

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 09:38:57 2016 No.14883159 >>14883152 I should've called riichi?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 09:44:50 2016 No.14883178 File: 14 KB, 199x85, JUST.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 10:18:48 2016 No.14883275 >>14881922 I'll try to escape and make it too. If the wife doesn't fuck up my fun with her selfish bullshit like "ooooh, I'm in labor, I need you heeere" Mahjong takes priority for fucks sake

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 11:12:56 2016 No.14883436 File: 387 KB, 735x629, nice iishanten.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >people discarding live dora in tokujou

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 11:14:34 2016 No.14883444 >>14883436 How did he get to tokujou and not me?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 12:01:50 2016 No.14883584 >>14883444 Because mahjong isn't a game of skill, it's about who gets more lucky.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 12:05:53 2016 No.14883600 >>14883584 Someone's on a losing streak.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 12:08:18 2016 No.14883606 File: 11 KB, 168x198, Mahjong.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14883584

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 12:11:38 2016 No.14883614 >>14883600 It's only in my losing streaks that I realize how powerless I am in mahjong.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 12:20:24 2016 No.14883640 File: 16 KB, 200x234, 1454606911293.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://youtu.be/hBQleUk8VMY?list=PLLwqRA5XA5w2VgmdRjm7zIJIQKWuA0xQw&t=882 14:42 why riichi with wait on 5 man and not 8 sou?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 12:23:59 2016 No.14883666 >>14883640 Double suji trap because 2m and 8m are in his discards. If his opponents play defensively they're more likely to drop it for that reason. Plus, one 8s was already out, meaning 5m has an extra tile he can win on anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 12:28:03 2016 No.14883683 >>14883666 But it's live.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 12:36:05 2016 No.14883719 >>14883666 i see. he doesn't care about another han because the chance he wins the hand is very slim. also risk of dealing in potential honitsu of west player is small.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 12:40:10 2016 No.14883730 >>14883719 He wouldn't get another han from 8s. Iipeikou only applies to sequences, not sequenced pairs.

Anonymous Sun Mar 6 12:48:58 2016 No.14883762

>>14883719
The only extra han he could make is the red 5 man (and of course ippatsu/tsumo which apply to both waits).

Iipeikou only applies to chitoisu if you have double iipeikou and even then it's only 1 extra han for ryanpeikou. It is a hand that I've found rarer than some yakuman.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 16:40:16 2016 No.14884621 File: 46 KB, 668x662, 1448231747283.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >No one makes even a mangan all game >I win because I went hard after the 4000 in the pot from failed riichi attempts

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 16:44:28 2016 No.14884636 3:0

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 17:07:44 2016 No.14884721 3:4

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 17:08:08 2016 No.14884724 >>14884636 3.4

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 17:50:35 2016 No.14884869 I hate mahjong more and more with each passing day.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 18:21:23 2016 No.14884999 1:0

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 18:29:09 2016 No.14885038 >>14884869 Yakuza aren't holding you at gunpoint forcing you to play.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 18:32:17 2016 No.14885046 >>14885038 Please send help.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 19:27:52 2016 No.14885260 File: 346 KB, 1042x583, butthole.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14885046

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 19:41:16 2016 No.14885303 >>14885260 Lewd.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 19:55:46 2016 No.14885338 Do people usually get into tokujou on their first account or do they make multiples?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 20:02:44 2016 No.14885352 >>14885338 Depends where your R is when you get close to 4 dan. First focus on making 4 dan, if your R is significantly lower than 1700, forget it and make a new account. It takes 1800 to get into tokujou.

Anonymous Sun Mar 6 20:03:01 2016 No.14885354

>>14885338
I get into tokujou on my second account, but it was short trip.
Also I created my first account after a week of playing flash mahjong, without so much knowledge about game, so it wasn't good point to start - still I was able to keep R1700+/- and 3rd dan in long run.
Actually sitting in tokujou on my third account , yet.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 20:22:29 2016 No.14885408 File: 30 KB, 244x288, March Updated Stats.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14882225 Today has been a very good day. My defense is still shit but slowly getting better.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 20:25:35 2016 No.14885419 >>14885338 Basically >>14885352. When I first made 4d, my rate was so shitty that there was little point in grinding it further. I made tokujou after a couple more accounts.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 20:48:05 2016 No.14885491 >>14885352 >>14885354 >>14885419 Thanks. I thought I was just unbelievably terrible or something.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 21:36:01 2016 No.14885697 My losses have been catching up now.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 21:37:04 2016 No.14885703 File: 8 KB, 247x312, clhpvb.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14885697 Forgot to include image.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 21:51:48 2016 No.14885773 File: 8 KB, 238x295, e2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm impressed, dude. Your stat looks ideal to me. Been playing like idiot myself as of late, resulting in heavy losses.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 23:16:13 2016 No.14886073 File: 220 KB, 585x1500, mumen.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >yet another international mahjong organisation has formed, even though the WMO already exists >mfw http://mahjong-mil.org/

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 23:21:13 2016 No.14886085 >>14886073 >duplicate mahjong >calling tiles is what makes interesting >"duplicate"

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 00:00:04 2016 No.14886163 >>14886073 >MCR

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 00:05:38 2016 No.14886171 File: 186 KB, 921x639, japanesemahjong.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14886163 >RCR

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 02:58:59 2016 No.14886655 >>14886171 >WRR

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 03:30:24 2016 No.14886714 >>14886073 There are lots of organization in Japan only, though. I think 5?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 04:19:42 2016 No.14886819 How fast are fast rooms? Wiki says it's half the time, so 2.5 + 5?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 04:26:28 2016 No.14886835 >>14886819 3+5

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 05:21:03 2016 No.14886939 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm17287715 2:30 must be what it's like to play against foreigners in Japanese jansou.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 08:17:20 2016 No.14887376 Revive

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 08:18:22 2016 No.14887378 Is someone gonna make the next thread? I'm too lazy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 08:30:12 2016 No.14887407 >>14887378 After it 404's

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 10:21:53 2016 No.14887725 >>14856363 2.4

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 10:31:25 2016 No.14887762 >>14887725 3.0

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