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So /jp/, I come to you once again with questions.
I recently came across this posted on the internets, but seeing as I don't know of any english patch for MB:AC, I can't confirm what the last bit may or may not say, so I ask you guys...
Does it really? Because if that's actually canon then my worldview just shifted a little.

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18.
Satsuki is successor of Nrvensqr Chaos.

-Yamase Maiko is a chick from the SS in the game Kagetsutohya. She is a normal high school student with no special powers.

-Can be inferred from the official SS of Tsukihime "Satsuki's Sky" and "MBAC Ver.B PC"(Try selecting Nrvensqr and Satsuki as a team).

>> No.1478254

Yes, Satsuki is a stupidly powerful vampire and is easily on the level of the dead apostles.

>> No.1478269

>Satsuki is successor of Nrvensqr Chaos.

1. Nero wasn't even a real vampire in the normal sense. He didn't have a True Ancestor who made him one. He became a flesh-eating type through his own research by fusing with creatures until he became the equivalent of formless chaos. It's possible that he wasn't even capable of creating a successor.

2. Roa was Sacchin's creator. This is canon. Roa was unnumbered, because he didn't follow the goals of the Ancestors of the Dead Apostles. Sacchin is just a powerful Dead Apostle. No ranking.

>> No.1478304

>>1478269
See, that's part of what threw me too, but could it mean she's the successor to his number? I mean, due to gets himself killed and all.

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>>1478506

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Someone called?

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>>1478536
I really doubt Sacchin lives through this, but why not?

>> No.1478475

>>1478304
I'd say no because Satsuki was killed by Shiki and you can't have a number if you're dead..right?

>> No.1478476

>>1478475
Altrouge still has a number, though...

>> No.1478481

>>1478475
Doesn't Crimson Moon still have a number, though?

>> No.1478483

>>1478475
First off, She wasn't killed in every route and I'm pretty sure none of the far side routes are the true canon.

Second off, Yeah, you can. There are a few of the slots still taken up by dead apostles.

>>1478481
Like what he said.

>> No.1478496

>>1478254
Every Vampire is called a dead apostle.

You mean the Ancestors.
And while she has High Potential to be numbered(due to high magical potential and being descended from Roa), she is just not there yet.

>>1478483
Melty Blood (where she appears again) considers it part of it's convoluted canon, I think (along with the appearance of SHIKI, before he fully turned Roa)

It's weird to discern the canon, since part of the endings of Tsukihime is Shiki choosing his most important person to him.
Perhaps the true end of them all was Ciel's good end?

>>1478481
As long as True Ancestor bloodlines exist (aka, Arcueid and maybe Altrouge), he can return.

>> No.1478503

>>1478483
You mean dead dead apostles, right?

>> No.1478506

>>1478496
Don't say Ciel's good end is the true(est) end or cieldude will show up.

Personally, I think a fight between Roa's former body and a vampire Roa made would be pretty good... After giving Satsuki some time to mature and realize some of that potential of course.

>> No.1478510

>>1478503
Of course. My bad to have made that mistake.

>> No.1478536

>>1478525
Ciel- Former Roa, hax talents and churchiness I guess

Sacchin- Made into a vampire by Roa, hax potential and reality marble, not sure where it'd develop

Realize some of that potential on the sacchin, then they fight. I think it'd be a good one.

>> No.1478582

>>1478536
Satsuki - Equally fast as Ciel, could potentially fuck over a lot of Ciel's shit with a nice depletion of all the mana nearby, and Ciel would die when she is killed, due to no more lol Roa.

Ciel - She can throw large nails. That catch on fire.

>> No.1478642

>>1478582

We have no idea how Ciel's and Satsuki's physical stats compare.
Ciel doesn't really rely on magic to have problems by Depletion Garden (she won't set up a boundary field, but who cares).

And even without Roa, she is incredibly resistant (why do you think she clung to life, unlike any other reincarnation).

Finally, Sacchin barely knows how to use vampire abilities and body (heck, a panicked Shiki can follow her movements), while Ciel knows how to fight and can use the Church's strongest conceptual weapons (she is not the top executor just because of immortality).

>> No.1479019

>>1478642
>heck, a panicked Shiki can follow her movements

..That's true for everybody Shiki ever faces. Ever. It's why he survives all the shit he does.

I doubt Ciel's weapons would work at all without mana. Not so flaming nails, not so holy scriptures. Fisticuffs and nails, versus a vampire.

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>>1479019
>I doubt Ciel's weapons would work at all without mana. Not so flaming nails, not so holy scriptures. Fisticuffs and nails, versus a vampire.
Ciel is good enough in melee combat; she doesn't need her keys and she almost never uses her 7th Holy Scripture anyway.
And I bet she can use both without mana anyway,simply because she is awesome.

>> No.1479968

>>1478642
>Finally, Sacchin barely knows how to use vampire abilities and body (heck, a panicked Shiki can follow her movements), while Ciel knows how to fight and can use the Church's strongest conceptual weapons (she is not the top executor just because of immortality).

That's why I prefaced it with "Given time to develop". Who knows how strong Sacchin would be when she'd been around as long as Ciel was, probably not the same level, but closer anyway

>> No.1479984

>>1479019
Conceptual weapons do not really rely on mana.

Though Shiki's instincts are uncanny.

>> No.1480032

You people forget that Sacchin is on the path of becoming a Dead Apostle.

>> No.1480055

>>1480032
She is one already, which makes her outstanding (bypassing most transformation sequences, something Sion did too in an extent).
And becoming one of the Numbered is dependent on the Church, and your threat level as they assess it.

>> No.1480084

If you look at her story fights in MB: Re-Act, Even Aoko is impressed at what a "high class vampire" she is for being so young, it wouldn't be a surprise for her to grow even more given time

>> No.1480100

>>1480084
She comments on her magical aptitude (aka, Reality marble) while she exhinited early, not her being a great or High-class Vampire.
Almost all of the 27 are fucking great magicians (with much more practical Reality Marbles too), and the ones who aren't have abilities that are way too powerful (see Merem).

Since she has the aptitude and is quite powerful for being young, she is a threat to older vampires (the vampire inter-structure fighting is mentioned often).

It's simple really, why do we have to repeat this stuff?

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