/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Who mahjong otaku here? Let's get some games started on Tenhou like the good old times.
http://tenhou.net/0/?L7447

[Anonymous No.]

I brought my mahjong set to college, but no one knew how to play.

[Anonymous No.]

Waiting on two more.

>>14189494
Does your school have a Japanese culture club? They might know.

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>>14189599
I'm already in four clubs, I can't fit more.
I heard they have shogi, so I kinda feel bad.
I don't own a shogi set or go set.
I'd use tenhou, but it requires Adobe Flash.

[Anonymous No.]

>>/a/131920831
I thought Akagi was about gamble. I watch the live action movie.

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>>14194851
Why was Akagi drawn in a way to make everybody purposely ugly?

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>>14195400
FKMT's art is more expressive that way. It wouldn't be the same with bishounen or cute girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14189471
need one more person

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>>14195792
Not everyone has Adobe Flash.

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>>14195400
Because otherwise you'd get saki
no one wants saki

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>>14189471
I forgot how tenhou works, what button do I press again to join?

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>>14195529
>It wouldn't be the same with bishounen or cute girls.
So, what you're saying is that you haven't read anything of his that isn't Akagi?

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>>14195865
I've read Kurosawa and Kaiji. So, what's your point?

[Anonymous No.]

That was a long ass game
Also a fucking frustrating one for me. Not a single bit of drawing luck outside of one tsumo

[Anonymous No.]

I've been training against AI for a while to get the hang of the yaku.
But I have the feeling that I don't know what to make of the discarded tiles of others.
I guess If there's 3-4 of the same tile there I need to stop waiting for it, I guess.
But I don't know jack shit about predicting the other hands.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any mahjong game in English so I can learn this shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14196265
http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/mahjong/mahjong_e.html

http://www.ofb.net/~whuang/ugcs/gp/mahjong/mahjong.html
I hope you find this helpful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14196372
Thanks. Seems complicated. This is going to take awhile.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14196260
just some simple tips from a noob
>be wary if someone discards only 2 different suit
>no one is tossing one particular dragon/wind past mid game
>someone discards middle tiles early on and chi/pon honor tiles
>any opened hand
>most common waits are two sided, some are lucky to have three, making it more difficult to toss safely. be wary of 1/4, 2/5, 3/6, 4/7, 5/8, 6/9 traps. in the case if riichi, middle tiles and pairs wait takes into effect
>if someone riichi and you are two or more tiles away for tenpai, it's best to give it up and play it safe

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>>14195799
http://tenhou.net/3/beta.html
I don't know if you can join private lobbies with this yet though.

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>>14196260
Predicting the other hands with any certainty is mostly snakeoil. Don't worry about it now.

The best place to learn how to get good is justanotherjapanesemahjongblog (google it)
Just slowly make your way through that and you'll be great in no time.

[Anonymous No.]

7447 still got people in it, or is thread dead?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14197599
>1:0

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>>14197618
We 3:0 now.

[Anonymous No.]

And we're liev

[Anonymous No.]

every time i have a good hand some fucker has the dragons

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>>14197783
That's the way it is sadly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14197783
Every time I have a good hand some faggot deals a dangerous tile and goes under. It's happened the last two games I've played.

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>>14197792
Maybe it's spite?

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>>14197783
>>14197792
tanoshii isn't it?

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>>14197797
One maybe, but the other was a close game and he dealt into a very obvious chanta. I believe he was just stupid.

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>3:4

[Anonymous No.]

Thanks for that game. Another?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14197802
I just started playing yesterday and I'm already mad at people. Very tanoshii.

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>>14197818
Delinquent Mahjong thread?

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>>14197050
might want to add this after that last few games:
>when the dealer riichi, abandon all hope

[Anonymous No.]

Thanks for those two games. Wish I wasn't falling asleep during the second. See you fags next time

[Anonymous No.]

>>14197954
Thanks
>>14197384
That's a gold mine of info. Thank you.
I guess I'll go with defence theory first.

[Anonymous No.]

Do you guys know any irc chatrooms?

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>>14198869
The only ones I know are #lmc and #t/a/noshii on Rizon.

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>>14197818
Learn how to not put down winning tiles if someone is in riichi, even if you're in tenpai or close to tenpai. At least when I first started out I was stubborn as fuck and kept trying to complete my hand before they did, and I always put down their winning tile without fail. Learn to back down and aim to draw for the round. If they complete a hand that has a lot of yaku, it will fuck you over for the rest of the game.

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What could've been

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>>14199303
I appreciate the tips, but read the conversation. I was complaining about others dealing in to obvious hands.

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>>14199583
Rank up on Tenhou so you can play against people that don't suck.

[Anonymous No.]

I started playing four days ago, and I'm working through that mahjong blog posted before.

I keep forgetting all the yaku and yakuman hands, so I lose a lot of chances before I can think, since you only have 12 seconds per move on the client I use. Plus, I can never tell what hands my opponents are working on, unless they open them, and even then I can't figure it out most of the times, outside of going "He discarded that so it's a safe tile"

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>>14200515
Play against some AI
Try saikyou no mahjong

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>>14200550
How would that help?
Mahjong is primarily about reading other people, wouldn't I learn all the wrong 'patterns' of reading other people if I was playing robots?

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>>14200561
You're learning the Yaku, right?
It's just a way of sandboxing with more time.

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>>14200515
>Plus, I can never tell what hands my opponents are working on, unless they open them, and even then I can't figure it out most of the times, outside of going "He discarded that so it's a safe tile"
And you're not going to be able to until you have lots and lots of experience. Just focus on one step at a time.

[Anonymous No.]

how do you set up good waits? I lose 50 iq points whenever the riichi button appears and I have to choose my discard. what else should I look for besides series like 3334 and 23456?

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>>14200693
Most of the time you'll have ryanmen (23, 45, 78, etc) waits. Look for those.

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Where can I find clubs and players? I live in southern California, so you would think there'd be tons but I can't seem to find any
Whether it's college clubs, craigslist, online forums, tournaments... Nothing!

Anyone in the irvine area want to play irl?

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>>14200715
I know about that but what about 3+ sided waits? when I see characters talk about 5 or 6 sided waits in saki I have to stare at the page for 5 minutes just to figure out what the winning tiles are.

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>>14200561
Play offline until you memorize the yaku. How are you supposed to discern hands if you don't even know what kind of hands they could be aiming for? Don't try to be Akagi until you've got the basics down.

You're on the right track kind of since you're learning about betaori. Remember this however: It's far more important to know when and why to defend than knowing how to defend. There will be lots of talk about different kinds of suji and all that shit, but what you need is to make use of furiten and the basic suji.
That and tile efficiency are all you need to go from being shit-tier to intermediate. Do not try to play in a half-assed way where you don't go full defense and try to discard a slightly more dangerous tile to keep your tenpai or whatever. When you choose to defend you take the 100% safe tile. Even if it means losing your tenpai. It doesn't matter how big your hand is if you deal into someone else's hand.

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>>14200744
Practice.
http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/bamboo/bamboo.html

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>>14200561
>Mahjong is primarily about reading other people
No, it's not, it's just a smaller part of it. You either watched too much Akagi or have some poker background.
Even with opponent's hands being completely open you won't be able to win unless you get into tenpai. It doesn't matter what hand they are making if you can get into tenpai and win before them. Your MAIN focus for now should be learning about your yakus, shapes and effective discards.

I tried to check my old archives for useful links, but almost all of them are dead. But start by reading http://osamuko.com/tile-efficiency-101-part-1/.. The same blog has also basic defensive strategies.

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>>14200752
The fucking computer keeps tenhouing.

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>>14200835
Are you going to let a computer beat you, anon?

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>>14200847
Fucking finally.

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>>14200987
Keep at it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14200731
There are at least two or three major riichi mahjong groups in the US. One in New York, another on the other coast but I forget which city, and apparently there's one in Seattle too.

[Anonymous No.]

Does Furiten apply to every possible configuration in your hand?

Say you have a hand that, depending on the wait, could be a tan'yao or a more valuable hand.

If the waits for the tan'yao are different, can you still discard them without being in Furiten if what you're aiming for are the waits of the other hand? Or does the fact that you discarded a possible wait of your hand automatically make it furiten?

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>>14203250
Furiten for one out means furiten for all outs. If you have 45678 waiting on 369, discarding 9 puts you in furiten for 3 and 6 also.

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>>14203284
I'm unable to come up with an example at the moment, but let's say you have a hand that's configured so you have a wait for a certain hand on 3, but if you look at the hand differently it could be a 56 wait on something else.

What I'm trying to get at is that the 3 wait and the 56 wait are for two different hands.
Would discarding a 3 make you furiten on the 56 even though it's a different hand altogether?

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>>14203289
The yaku are irrelevant. As long as you're in tenpai, and you've discarded one of the tiles that could complete your hand - regardless of whether or not that tile would give you any yaku - you're in furiten. If you change your wait so that you're no longer waiting on anything you've discarded, then you won't be in furiten anymore.

Let's say you have a hand like 4445m345789p345s. You're tenpai on 356m. 3m gives sanshoku pinfu, 6m gives pinfu, and 5m gives nothing. If you had at any point discarded 5m, then you'd be unable to win with either of 36m.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14203289
Yes.
See image. This is furiten.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14200752
>start game
>リーチ
>computer wins instantly
>-48k points
What a good start.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14203399
This is a retarded question, but what is the guy in your image going for?

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>>14203409
A yakuman on the first hand? Ouch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14203666
Yeah, and he did that three times in a row. GG, no re.

[Anonymous No.]

>ryanshanten on first turn for kokushi mousou
>north player goes riichi
>I give him an ippatsu Ron while trying to get into isshanten
>It's a shitty yakuhai with seat wind

I don't want to play anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>14203709
That was me. Sorry man, couldn't let you have it

[Anonymous No.]

1:0 folks. Try not to hurt me too much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14203709
kokushi mousou never happens,
NEVER

[Anonymous No.]

>>14203884
But I had ryanshanten ON FIRST TURN
I could have had like 20 chances
And instead the hand ended on the SECOND TURNAROUND

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>>14204009
obviously he detected the dangerous pressure coming from your hand and moved to block it.

[Anonymous No.]

How does one enforce furiten? Seems like there's no way of knowing unless you self-regulate

[Anonymous No.]

>>14204296
There's this little thing called Chombo, look it up.

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>>14204302
I never played on tenhou. Does the program actually allows you to go "tsumo/ron" with a furiten hand?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14204324
No, the game won't allow you to attempt to call a win when you're in furiten.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14204302
I understand chombo, I'm just wondering how I can look at someone's Ron hand and know that they could have gone out earlier. Seems like furiten would go unpunished in most cases

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>>14204355
Some anon already mentioned it:
>If you change your wait so that you're no longer waiting on anything you've discarded, then you won't be in furiten anymore.
And if you're no longer in furiten you are allowed to declare win.

So you just look at someone's Ron and check:
Is he in furiten now? -> He must pay chombo.
Is he not in furiten right now? -> He won and it doesn't matter that he could or could not be in furiten several turns ago.

[Anonymous No.]

1:0 friends.

[Anonymous No.]

http://pwmarcz.pl/minefield/#CrJQ8fhzPM

Minefield mahjong, for the interested folks

[Anonymous No.]

2:4

[Anonymous No.]

>>14204690
>2:4
what do these numbers actually mean? sorry, I'm new to tenhou.

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>>14204925
First number is the number of people waiting, second is the number of people playing at the moment. If you don't read Japanese search for Tenhou documentation, pretty much everything there is explained.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14204925
players waiting for a game : players already playing
http://arcturus.su/tenhou/

[Anonymous No.]

>>14204934
>>14204936
Oh I see, thank you guys

[Anonymous No.]

2:0

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>>14205111
3 now.

[Anonymous No.]

Does everybody just arrange their hands in manzu-pinzu-souzu-fanpei?
Is it a rule that you have to arrange them in that order?

And in case it isn't, why does everybody, even professional players, always do it?
Doesn't that make it easy for anyone to guess what you're drawing/discarding if the spot you put things in your hand is pretty much telling anyone what you're aiming for?

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>>14206064
>even professional players, always do it?
This way it's easier for the audience to follow .

[Anonymous No.]

>1:0

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck you I was so fucking close to completing the best hand I've ever made fuck fuck fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14206721
You don't have any yaku.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14206733
I thought it was ryanpeikou

[Anonymous No.]

>>14206746
Ryanpeikou is closed only.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14203399
What does it mean for a discarded tile to be highlighted or not highlighted?

[Anonymous No.]

I've played on a guest account for years because I don't read moonrunes but is there a guide for how to sign up? I'm guessing that having a real account would be better for playing than just showing up every once in a while on a guest account.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14206803
Tsumogiri. The darker tiles are ones that were discarded as soon as they were drawn, instead of from the hand.

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>>14206825
Wow, didn't know that was a thing they tracked and showed to spectators.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14206824
http://arcturus.su/tenhou/ids-ranks.html

>>14206827
It's really useful information once you start getting real good. Difficult to keep track of during a game though.

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>>14206834
I mean, I knew it was useful but didn't think they were capable of doing so because of how the game loves to pause every two seconds because of latency or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14206887
It pauses because someone is waiting to decide to chi/pon/etc. Tenhou also throws in random pauses just so you can't rely on pauses for getting information.

[Anonymous No.]

>3:4

[Anonymous No.]

>wasn't paying attention so accidentally chi on instinct and screw myself over
Why do I even bother playing, I'm not even good.

[Anonymous No.]

>those two guys who keep calling tiles

lmao

[Anonymous No.]

D-did I do good?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14207576
Yep. When you're up to it, come visit 7447 and play a couple games.

[Anonymous No.]

>Believing in flow

[Anonymous No.]

1:0

[Anonymous No.]

3:0

[Anonymous No.]

Holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

Sick yakuman dude.

[Anonymous No.]

Thank you for games.

[Anonymous No.]

Do you guys play against Japanese player, too? I'm always afraid that I make them upset because I'm a beginner. Ah baka gaijin waito piggu ruining our mahjong...

[Anonymous No.]

>>14208518
Nah, they're people too, so, I guess, some of them are bad, I don't know why I should be afraid of them. It would be great to play against a real pro or at least a very good player, but I don't want to pay for a ron2 account.

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>>14208518
Don't feel that way. Everyone is a beginner once.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14208518
It's okay, you play against smurfs and other scrubs until you sign up and gain some rank points.

The only people you'll offend are the ones you beat with a randomly dealt good hand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14207684
Fuck off Nodoka

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

How could have I handled this hand better? It seemed amazing to my eyes at least, so having it come tu just a mangan felt lackluster

Did I cheapen it somehow, calling aside?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14209438
Not really. Toitoi honitsu is mangan. The only real way that could have been worth more is if you stayed closed or got some dora.

[Anonymous No.]

What the FUCK was that. I got ron'd twice

[Anonymous No.]

>>14210434
I didn't knew that this was possible. I thought there was a rule that only one player gets the points.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14210510
In some rulesets, yes. In tenhou you can get double ron'd, but not triple ron'd.

[Anonymous No.]

3:0

[Anonymous No.]

There's a si gle player mahjong app called tenhoG that I enjoy. What sets it apart is the practice mode that throws Hans at you and asks you to score them. Great practice for calculating fu an learning yaku. It got me off my dependence on calculator apps.

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>>14211211
Is it on any app stores?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14211395
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.bustercurry.virtualtenho_g

[Anonymous No.]

>>14211441
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

1:0

[Anonymous No.]

>>14212252
2:0 now

[Anonymous No.]

>>14212277

[Anonymous No.]

>>14212252
3:0 now my friend.

[Anonymous No.]

I'll be back for more in a couple hours. Sorry anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>14212370
Sure, let's play again then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14212373
And back while I avoid my resposibilities.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14210510
Atamahane (head bump) is disabled in ari-ari, which is the most popular ruleset on tenhou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14210524
>>14212662
I see. I'm new to tenhou, the last three days were actually the first time in my life that I played with real humans. I used to play on my SNES emulator. Y-you guys deflowered me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14212688
Well now that your cherry is gone, it's time for you to truly enjoy some vigorous mahjong on a table

[Anonymous No.]

>>14212707
Who is the guy on the left?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14212707
Damn Saki has some thick thighs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14212744
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legendary_Gambler_Tetsuya

[Anonymous No.]

I miss the Saki and Akagi ads/events on tenhou

[Anonymous No.]

I tried my best. Good game.

[Anonymous No.]

>A universe where I actually win
I was terrified to even play when we started.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14212844
And then you wake up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14212844
This match was pretty good, slow and steady, I wish more games were like this one.

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking chiitoi is such a shitty yaku. Why does it even exist? You are more likely to get the 3-shanten toitoi than the 1-shanten chiitoitsu. Fucking shitty hand.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know why I try so often since I seem to fail so often. I didn't know I snubbed lady luck this badly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14212870
Chiitoi is for pussiesme, I love it. It's safe as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

1-shan-ten from 1st turn with 16 uke-ire and it never comes.

Kanna was right. This game really is an illogical pile of shit. Some faggot can win on a stupid tanki hell wait before you get your mathematically probable hand finished.

[Anonymous No.]

This it the last game out of me for a while I recharge my brain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14212951
same here

[Anonymous No.]

>This universe
Thank you for the games. Good night.

[Anonymous No.]

Good games. Last one was close.

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>>14211441
Man, this app is great. The rule explanations are cute too, big bonus.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVxh7CxScYU
Has anyone played this? Is it good?

[Anonymous No.]

We're 1:0 now...

[Anonymous No.]

2:0 now losers.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone else?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14213626
You lie kisama. There's no-one in here

[Anonymous No.]

>>14213799
Everyone left after one game.

[Anonymous No.]

That was my first time ever seeing an actual chankan

[Anonymous No.]

>>14213341
Too bad it's in ネエハンゴ

[Anonymous No.]

>>14212761
I bet she'll rub your dick beneath the table with her feet to distract you

[Anonymous No.]

>>14215213
Lewd. Truly she is a powerful mahjong lesbian.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14215631
A man can have his fantasies, right?

[Anonymous No.]

2:0

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder how much trouble getting one of those automatic tables is? Then again, I'd have to have live players too

[Anonymous No.]

>>14217518
I think they're a touch pricy. I'm personally just going to visit a hardware store and pick up some timber to build myself a halfway decent table until I get my hands on some nice materials or the cash to just buy a good table.

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>>14217518
They are cool but an amateur like me don't really need one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14217518
They are cool but an amateur like me doesn't need one.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are baka gaijins so shit at mahjong?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14219575
I'm sorry I am not perfect anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14219575
Not everyone is a natural-born Akagi.

[Anonymous No.]

3:0

[Anonymous No.]

>>14219575
Kyoutarou please, you aren't that much better, now bring me some tacos.

[Anonymous No.]

I wish I was mahjong otaku. I really do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14222666
It's never too late to give up your happiness and become one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14222666
What's stopping you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14222666
I taught myself how to play, it's not that difficult.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14223046
Honestly I'm probably not smart enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>14223176
It has nothing to do with intelligence. It's just practice and learning from your mistakes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14223176
I'm an idiot but I still learned. It depends more on how much time you put into it.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24161564
What's your favorite song about mahjong?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14223257
>oorasu オーラス The final round of a game (South 4th round in a Han Chan). Probably a contraction of English “all last”.
Today I learned something new I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

Some guy just hit me with an open yakuhai with 5 dora hidden in his hand on the 5th go-around and then tsumo'd a kokushi fucking musou when I was east the next round.

Starting to believe in the flow because there's no other way to explain this shitty luck.

[Anonymous No.]

2:0

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3:0

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>>14225699
Sometimes crazy shit happens. It all evens out in the end unless you are in fact playing against Akagi.

[Anonymous No.]

Mahjong sucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14225873
You suck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14225873
no, it's tanoshii

[Anonymous No.]

>>14225873
No, you suck at mahjong.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck those people who immediately ron/tsumo on the shittiest hands.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14227145
Holding out for better hands is a sure way to never get first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14227145
B-but my beautiful tenpai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14227265
If your play hands that are less than mangan and you're not trying to catch up in the last round you should kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14227502
Sounds like a good way to never win a hand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14227502
>>14228460
Well, at least both of you are following a strategy. I am literally what poker player call a "donk" - I play cheap, fast and risky hands much to the upset of the other players.

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>>14228837
>much to the upset of the other players.
It's just more money for them, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14228843
Less, because the hands are cheap.

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>>14228837
I always hit the auto-pass cruise control and aim straight for mentanpin. If I lose some yaku along the road to tenpai (i.e. drawing a triplet to lose pinfu, having a 1 or 9 in a meld to lose tanyao) I just roll with it and keep going for tenpai.
This hits mangan pretty often because mentanpin is already mangan on its own, and even without additional yaku red 5s work into this hand and they keep nudging up the han value.
Sometimes these hands get bloated by yaku like sanshoku or iipeikou into haneman. With dora that's baiman.

[Anonymous No.]

I only started playing mahjong last week. What does thing that pops up when I win mean?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14229307
You leveled up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14229307
Check arcturus first whenever you have questions about tenhou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14229706
>>14229858
I'm relieved to find out that that "9" is bad and no one expected anything from me during those games I lost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14229024
>is already mangan on its own
Shit something's wrong with my brain.
is almost mangan on its own*

[Anonymous No.]

>three games ended with 40k+ points
>in all of them were second

Why are you so bullshit, tenhou?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14230309
It's time to get good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14233545
But I'm already good anon. It's just tenhou bullshit doesn't allow me to win anything.

[Anonymous No.]

1 MORE MAHJONG http://tenhou.net/0/?L7447

[Anonymous No.]

1:0

[Anonymous No.]

So speaking of mahjong I just finished part 3 of Kaiji and it was by fat the shittest gamble of them all.

Why is it that mahjong somehow manages to be duller than rock-paper-scissors?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14237612
It was good, you faggot. Dullest part was pachinko in comparison to the rest of the series.

[Anonymous No.]

>http://tenhou.net/0/?L7447
this place is so alive tonight!

[Anonymous No.]

Mahjong is terrible and I hate it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14240940
I agree, but I keep playing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14204009
> And instead the hand ended on the SECOND TURNAROUND
And I thought I’ve experienced all the possible kokushi fails.

[Anonymous No.]

Where has the flash client gone? I somehow managed to outplay bots in the web client, but it doesn’t even highlight possible meld on chi/pon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14189471
i am new as fuck. do i just wait untill people start a game and hope i checked on time/ at the time

[Anonymous No.]

>>14242858
The bots do nothing other than tsumogiri, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14242911
Better read arcturus for a week and play with bots (on tenhou or a standalone app), like I did. People that do not learn the rules usually experience only frustration online. Learn tiles, yaku, furiten, order of winds and dragons– that’s a minimum. Then read 1–2 guides written by pros on tile efficiency.

>>14242963
What’s with the flash client, anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

Dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14243774
Live

[Anonymous No.]

>>14242985
What guides for tile efficiency do you recommend? Preferably in English so I can actually read it.

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw tenhou deleted my 2dan account from 2008 just because I didn't access it in about a year
Fuck tenhou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14189471

[Anonymous No.]

>>14244347
Google "just another japanese mahjong blog", it’s a blog on blogspot. Articles there are divided into three categories, the other two being defence and riichi strategy– also worth reading.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14244436
Thanks anon. Good luck at the tables.

[Anonymous No.]

I used to play mahjong IRL with a couple of my friends but then one of them became an alcoholic and we haven't been able to play since.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14244547
Do you want to jump on Tenhou and play with us?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14244590
Not right now, I haven't slept in 36 six hours and my brain isn't working like it should.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14244353
It's okay, 2dan is nothing. You can get back easily.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14244606
Yeah, but it was still an account from 2008.

Fuck tenhou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14242858

Because I can’t play on tenhou in this new web-beta-shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14244785
Why not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14244831
Went there one more time
> everything’s large as fuck
> possible melds are now in submenu
> huge green rectangle buttons
> huge menus are now messing with the tiles on the table, very convenient
> no seconds counter, only ticks when the time goes out.
> each element in the centre stacks to one huge block, that’s not how design works
> naki in different places
…and more, but I think this is already enough
Don’t know why, but after I logged in as myself and then logged out, the table looked more like the old tenhou table. I mean tiles became smaller and the wall appeared.
I think that they probably remade it because muh tablets, but I personally play on a desktop and I want the old design back, because it was fairly better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14244945
That sounds nothing like the in browser I'm used to. I'm not even sure how you got there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14244997
Is tere a new way to login? inb4 paying for шiиdoшs client

[Anonymous No.]

>>14245068
That looks normal I believe. Strange.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14245068

[Anonymous No.]

Why don't you fags just use the flash version?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14245133

[Anonymous No.]

>>14244945
Just use the windows client with the crack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14245185
whats wrong with the flash client ?

i just used it earlier and seemed fine.

also as i just started out i went to the 4774 lobby, to bad its completely empty the entire day.

[Anonymous No.]

okay guys i just played my first richi game on tenhou. and one of the first games in general. and i got pretty lucky. even though half the time i was figuring out what the numbers where on the character tiles i still managed to win.

pic related.
where did i get the 1 han from?

here is the match if you want to painfully watch me fumble

10/21 | 牌譜 | 般東 | http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2015102100gm-0007-0000-3db1d2f2&tw=1
1位 OD_fag(+43.0) awsd(+12.0) NoName(-45.0) ReisenUI(-10.0)

[Anonymous No.]

>>14247448
Toi toi
white dragons
4 doras

Typical recommendation for all new players: do not call pon unless it's your wind or dragons. Do not call chi unless you can get into tenpai with the call. Do not ever call open kan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14247448
How did you open the old flash client?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14247468
You're probably using chrome which by default blocks flash plugin and thus site don't even offer you flash client.
Stop using that shitty botnet and migrate to firefox.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14247492
But I am using firefox that also is a botnet. It seems that my flash plugin can’t be found. Dunno why, though, gonna reinstall it. Thanks for pointing that out.

[Anonymous No.]

They could at least write that my flash plugin is missing so it won’t look like I’m a happy player picked randomly to test their beta crap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14247464
why not ever call open kan? even in this dora case?

for chi i just try t get a all suit most of the time.

>>14247468
i am using chrome

[Anonymous No.]

3:0

[Anonymous No.]

>>14247740
in 4774 ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14247740
>This S3-1

RIP my first sanbaiman.

[Anonymous No.]

This spectator mode is amazing. I have no idea what two of you are doing, but it doesn't seem very efficient.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck me.

[Anonymous No.]

>3 dora
>3 ura
My sides.

>One guy with a closed 2-man wait with 3 8-mans in his hand.
>Other guy with closed 8-man wait with 3 2-mans in his hand.
It's wonderful seeing the folly of others instead of my own.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14247987
Let's see you play hotshot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14248023
Sure, but I doubt I'll win. I'm just laughing at how silly some actions are when you know everyone's hands.

[Anonymous No.]

We 3:0 here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14247987
I lol’d.
t. the one who left

>>14248023
There’s nothing bad in closed waits. Early riichi is justified in your situation, cause you two wanted to secure or get 3rd place for yourself. It was just the situation when mahjong laughed at you.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a way I can rejoin? I got disconnected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14248172
Everyone did.

[Anonymous No.]

Guys, there was a error message in tenhou. And I couldn't read it, I clicked "no"?

[Anonymous No.]

Leading in ranked and the game disconnects me and then I can't rejoin.
I joined another game and it happened again. That's 2 games where it disconnected me and I couldn't rejoin.

th-thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>Someone stole my spot.
Well I guess I'm just an unnamed background character after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14248190
I'm disappointed we couldn't continue the last game. Maybe next time.

[Anonymous No.]

>These last three stones in orasu

Just kill me.

[Anonymous No.]

iam waiting for someone in the lobby 7447.

hope to see anyone ;-;

[Anonymous No.]

>>14248322
also
>go tanki
>one stone is the last in the game
>two are in dead wall

such a bullshit rng

[Anonymous No.]

2:0

[Anonymous No.]

Need one more.

[Anonymous No.]

cant we chat in game ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14248559
No, you can chat outside in the lobby if you have a registered ID though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14248564
if i try to re login in a new window i gett an ok screen and then i get a full blue screen where i cant do anything.

[Anonymous No.]

has anyone ever taught about finding a voice over place to hang out ?

or do people not want to talk

[Anonymous No.]

>>14248824
There are at least two IRC channels, but I don’t go there anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14248882
got a link ?

[Anonymous No.]

could someone explain these points to me ?

isnt this only 2 han, worth like 2000

[Anonymous No.]

>>14248905
On Rizon there's #t/a/noshii

[Anonymous No.]

>>14248921
Mixed triple chow is probably sanshoku which is worth 2 han.
With tsumo you get 5th han and it's mangan for 8000 points.
On ron you get additional 10 fu, which makes it 7700 points.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14248921
>all simples
>mixed triple chow
>chow
No wonder you don't understand, all the terminology is fucked up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14248949
this triple chow is just a repeating non-terminal meld across the three suits right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14248954
It can have terminals. Like that guy said it's probably sanshoku. It would help if you posted the hand so we wouldn't have to guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14248921
Trying to learn anything about mahjong with Saki is pointless. It’s anime about cute girls doing lesbian things and definitely not a try hard tutorial. Screens like these are exist only so experienced players could laugh at them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14248967
In terms of real strategy, Saki is better than Akagi. Akagi is all about doing the wrong thing and having it pay off because of "flow" or "genius".

[Anonymous No.]

>>14249008
1.5 good advices on 25 episodes don’t do much difference.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14249043
What are you getting at?

Incidentally this >>14248967 was just an animation error that was fixed in the DVDs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14249089
Nowhere.

[Anonymous No.]

heres another one

am i right in assuming this hand was 32 fu and rounded up to 40 fu making it a mangan ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14249099
Deep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14249198
Yes, fu is always rounded up to the nearest 10s place.

[Anonymous No.]

http://tenhou.net/0/?L7447
http://tenhou.net/0/?L7447
http://tenhou.net/0/?L7447
1 MORE

[Anonymous No.]

>>14249854
writing_in_caps.jpg

[Anonymous No.]

I have to host mahjong games this Saturday, but I've forgotten how to play since I haven't played in over a year.
Frightening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14249919
Remember: no kokushi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14249951
I only know the chinese terminology, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14250132

[Anonymous No.]

>>14250132
Want to get in 7447 and play to relearn?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14249919
I haven't played since 2011 until this thread appeared. You will quickly remember how to play.

[Anonymous No.]

I changed back to Noname for a few games and didn't copy my ID. Am I fucked?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14249198
Yup. That's 20 fu for winning, 2 fu for the kanchan wait, and another 10 for getting ron with a closed hand.
Rather than using the normal rules for rounding up you always go to the next ten, so 32 becomes 40.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14247689
Situation before you open kan'd: a worthless pon with otherwise concealed hand.

Situation after that: For a single additional han, you revealed three fucking dora, big probabilities for toitoi or hon-itsu and also opened up additional dora and uradora (latter for those who can riichi, ie. not you).

[Anonymous No.]

After watching reading mangas i had the understanding that you can go for quick wins or expensive wins in richii.

but now i am playing i am mostly just trying to get into tenpai at all and dont have much choice at all for what hand i go for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14252246
The Akagi bullshit doesn't happen. In real life it's not so flashy, but it does exist to some extent.

The decisions for what hand you go for happen long before you get tenpai or iishanten, usually the choice is made the very moment when you see your starting hand.
From then on you may discard to take shapes that have less uke-ire, but will give a yaku if they hit, or go straight efficiency and choose the best shapes but lose out on possible yaku.

Learn about tile efficiency and you'll find yourself making these decisions in your games. I think the guide on "just another japanese mahjong blog" is the best one.

[Anonymous No.]

Ah, I just played someone called Hirotan and his little ass got ron'd so hard I got horny just thinking about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14250320
Yeah, shall use the non-flash client.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh man, why did I register as male? I want to have a sexy female voice...

[Anonymous No.]

Are there any good physical books on mahjong?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14252891

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>>14252898
>"I'm so hipster, I only believe in having all text available in .mp4 form! Who needs books~?"

[Anonymous No.]

>>14252922
> ‘I’m so hipster, I only believe that having some ancient knowledge in printed form makes me look smart and attract chicks in starbucks’

[Anonymous No.]

>>14252949
m8
Books don't make my eyes feel like pain incarnate, unlike staring at a computer screen for the equivalent amount of reading time.
There are legitimate reasons to have a paper book, especially as the book gets longer.
Ideally, every book would also come with a free plaintext file, so you could have both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14252898
>>14252922
>>14252949
Who let you out of /v/?

>>14252891
Not sure about now, but 4 years ago there was only ONE english book about riichi mahjong and it wasn't very good:
http://www.amazon.com/Reach-Mahjong-The-Only-Play/dp/193539634X

[Anonymous No.]

>>14252891
do it like me: print out the guide.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14252990
True, that is possible. Which guide do you speak of?
May as well find out about any good educational content now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14252967
> unlike staring at a computer screen for the equivalent amount of reading time.
Even old CRT monitors had switches for adjusting brightness and contrast. Modern displays have presets to switch between luminosity levels. It’s your problem for using your hardware in a way that hurts you, not mine. I sit before display 24/7 and my eyes are fine.
> There are legitimate reasons to have a paper book
You play from a smartphone or going to read that book to beguile freezing evenings on climbing Everest?

>>14252982
> Who let you out of /v/?
Fix your detector.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14253028
>owning a smartphone
Why would you do that? They're replaceable in every way for much less money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14253034
> Why would you do that?
You’re asking the wrong person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14252997
>Which guide do you speak of?
Sorry, it's in German
http://www.riichi-mahjong.de/item/4

[Anonymous No.]

>>14251877
Yes.

>>14252891
Not in anything other than Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

http://tenhou.net/0/?L7447
2 MORE MAHJONG

[Anonymous No.]

>>14254612
Too late it seems…

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine his pain when he ended up the last.

[Anonymous No.]

1:0

[Anonymous No.]

brb in 5 min gonna make tea

[Anonymous No.]

2:0

[Anonymous No.]

> forever 2:0
I’m out, gonna go shopping.

[Anonymous No.]

Back to 1:0. Nobody around to play?

[Anonymous No.]

3:0

[Anonymous No.]

oh yay another mahjongbot

[Anonymous No.]

3:0

[Anonymous No.]

>>14255487
Hm?

[Anonymous No.]

Whenever I come in it’s either 1:0 or 0:4

[Anonymous No.]

>>14255587
I usually find it 0:0, which sucks.

[Anonymous No.]

Finally, the first place. After five rounds grinding 40+k and somebody stealing my first place.

[Anonymous No.]

is it just me or is all that you get in this game a pinfu and tanyao plus dora

thats like the only hands i see

[Anonymous No.]

>>14257212
Yup. But sanshouku, ippeiko, honitsu and especially toitoi I see pretty often. Ittsu, chanta, honroutou and chinitsu are more rare, but also happen from time to time. In general you still try to aim for the first ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14257403
i just want a mahjong version that focuses heavily on rare hands.

maybe make stuff below haneman half points...

[Anonymous No.]

>>14257410
Try Chinese mahkong or something. It’s not as about speed as riichi is. Also flowers and messed discard, blergh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14257410
3 players mahjong

You can make monstrous hands in it, every round ends up mangan and up

[Anonymous No.]

>>14257212
The other hands take more time and most people try to shovel out whatever they can as quick as possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14257434
> 3 players mahjong
Is like cheating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14257434
Only real men do 4p.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14257212
To think of it, it may be even an empty riichi just for the sake of not letting your hand develop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14254907
>deal into clearly visible at least baiman hand when you're first
He deserve it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14258225
Actually, no. He just didn’t notice how I changed my wait. Look at my kamicha’s discard– there’s a 4 sou. He discarded 4 sou because he thought it was a safe tile.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14258246
Yea, I give it to you - it was a nice trap. But still he had 2s which is genbutsu against you and his toimen (at first I didn't noticed your toimen riichi. Well it's still quite hard to read his discards from this screen, so if you have log I will gladly watch it).

[Anonymous No.]

>>14258257
Here it is. Toimen went for hell wait log=2015102212gm-0009-0000-x9a438c0ec091&tw=3&ts=10

[Anonymous No.]

>>14258257
Here it is. Toimen went for hell wait.
log=2015102212gm-0009-0000-x9a438c0ec091&tw=3&ts=10