General Nutaku Thread #48

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General Nutaku Thread #48 Anonymous Sat Sep 12 10:54:42 2015 No.14084058 [Reply] [Original]

Last thread: >>14067186

Current LoV Event: Idols' Festa
http://lord-of-valkyrie.wikia.com/wiki/Idols%27_Festa

Current Aigis Event: Mystic Sorcery (ending early morning of the 15th)
http://harem-battle.club/millennium-war-aigis/122-mystic-sorcery-guide.html

>Event Unit: Plat Mage Odette
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Odette

Current Angelic Saga Event: The Rampant Goddess of Destruction (ending early morning of the 15th)

>Event Unit: Goddess of Destruction Anteret
http://harem-battle.club/wiki/Angelic-Saga/AngelicSaga:Anteret

Current Pero Pero Event: Pero Coliseum 2 (ending morning of the 16th)
http://harem-battle.club/peropero-seduction/193-event-5-peropero-coliseum.html

>Forums
http://harem-battle.club/

Lord of Valkyrie links:
>Game link:
http://www.nutaku.net/games/lord-of-valkyrie/play/
>English wiki:
http://lord-of-valkyrie.wikia.com/wiki/Lord_of_Valkyrie_Wiki
>Japanese wiki:
http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/
>/jp/ player list:
http://pastebin.com/URgv8JPA
>Grind table by an anon:
http://imgur.com/y90G0cS
>Required strength for explorations and their rewards:
http://lord-of-valkyrie.wikia.com/wiki/Exploration
http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%c4%b4%ba%ba%c0%ef%c3%c4

Millennium War Aigis links:
>Game link
http://www.nutaku.net/games/millennium-war-aigis/play/
>Japanese ULMF thread:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=24452
>English ULMF thread:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=26860
>Japanese Wiki #1:
http://aigis.gcwiki.info/
>Japanese Wiki #2:
http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/
>English Wiki
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Millennium_War_Aigis_Wiki
>XP chart
http://i.imgur.com/okVV7hJ.png
>Vid anon's channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkAJz5hSVU_zaF0EqLiCKkg

Angelic Saga links:
>Game link:
http://www.nutaku.net/games/angelic-saga/play
>Japanese Wiki
http://angelicsaga.wiki.fc2.com/
>English Wiki
http://harem-battle.club/wiki/Angelic-Saga

Miscellaneous links:
>Staff Twitter:
https://twitter.com/nutakugames

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 11:19:37 2015 No.14084117 Is Bella better than Claire as an archer? Have both, unsure which to go with

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 11:32:38 2015 No.14084150 >>14084117] No, Claire is much stronger.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 11:34:59 2015 No.14084153 >>14084150 Ah okay, is it because of their awakening?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 11:35:40 2015 No.14084156 >New Gold Rush map >12 stamina ....what? Pretty steep cost for just trying out a map. I'm not sure I can clear it, and even if I can, It'll probably take a few tries. Guess I'll wait for a video or something and evaluate whether it's worth it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 11:43:05 2015 No.14084170 File: 296 KB, 620x415, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14084156 It's pretty straightforwart, you need something that can sink 2500 damage and 3 decent healers tho. This is the team I did it with

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 11:45:24 2015 No.14084176 >>14084156 Also I think it has 100% droprate since I got everything (plat armor, Rainbow Fairy and Diamond) on first clear

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 11:48:36 2015 No.14084185 >>14084170 I don't even have a single awakened unit, I guess it's back the 2 stamina maps for me

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 11:57:18 2015 No.14084205 Do princesses like Sybilla and Sherry just get stronger or do they get any nice bonuses after awakening? Also what are their skill awakenings?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 11:59:32 2015 No.14084213 >>14084205 Sybilla gets a ranged attack as she awakens, with the chance to insta-kill (like her normal skill, but ranged) unsure about what trait does Sherry have

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 12:12:59 2015 No.14084246 >>14084185 The only awakened unit I have really used is Miranda. If you have anything that can tank golem you should be fine

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 12:32:20 2015 No.14084299 >>14084156 It's not really a hard map you just need someone to tank the golem. Someone already put out a video that uses gold/silvers. http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27143116

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 12:41:49 2015 No.14084328

>>14084246
>>14084299
Do you think a level 44 Bernice would be enough? The guy in the video used level 60 and it looks really close for him, but I don't know how much of a difference those last few levels make.

Also, does the big golem have any of the drops, or could I potentially just let him walk through if I can't handle it and still get my cuterie?

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 12:47:13 2015 No.14084339

>>14084328
you can't let it pass since killing it triggers second phase of the map
And not sure about Bernice, but I probably would pass on testing it myself in this case. Someone more knowledgeable might help you if you post her stats on said level tho

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 12:50:22 2015 No.14084349 >>14084328 All the drops come from goblins. >>14084339 I honestly never tried to let one of these guys pass but I'm going to assume the map just continues like you killed him once he walks off.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 12:55:23 2015 No.14084364 >>14084328 You should just need 2501 hp+defense to be able to survive one hit from him without her skill.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 13:06:05 2015 No.14084401 File: 472 KB, 808x417, FUCK me.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 200 wins later and this was my reward. Eugh.

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 13:09:01 2015 No.14084412

>>14084364
Alright, should be possible then, I have 2050 HP and 482 def without prince buff. Might have to intercept the small golems with another unit like Sybilla to make sure they can't attack simultaneously with the big one. Is magic damage good against the golems?

>>14084349
Only goblins, thank god. Good to know that I have nothing to worry about, even if I fail with the golem experiment, since the goblin spawns are far enough away from the golem so that none of them can get through on the back of the golem or something.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 13:14:42 2015 No.14084428 >Have 4 healers placed for this map >Dina decides getting hit is for losers and chain procs invisible armor I love you too, Dina. completely unnecessary though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 13:34:26 2015 No.14084475 >>14084339 > you can't let it pass From wiki: 幸い、強敵であるアイアンゴーレムとデーモンメイジはドロップに関係無いため、クリアするだけならこいつらをスルーしてしまって構わない。

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 13:49:17 2015 No.14084517 >>14084364 Well fine then, I didn't want Odette anyways, she's sour and smells of grapes.

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 13:57:51 2015 No.14084546

>>14084401
Protip: Save event tickets for ones that actually matter. The prizes for ranking high in this event are non-existent. Elite guard events seem like the best time to use them and I just got my 200 win ticket and it lasts until January, so it isn't like you are limited from stockpiling.
Stockpiling is your friend, since the box has a set amount of each card, so using multiple raises your chances of a good draw. Also, can't you use card reveal on these? If so, do so, these things are too rare to waste by guessing blindly.
I wish you better luck in the future.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 13:58:23 2015 No.14084548 Does the 90/12 map have 100% droprate every time? Guaranteed rainbow fairy and plat armor is kind of neat

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 14:00:29 2015 No.14084557 >>14084548 No, only first time unit is killed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 14:21:23 2015 No.14084611 Another dropless X. 50% my ass.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 14:33:21 2015 No.14084637 >>14084611 If fire emblem has taught me anything, it's that you never want to be in the middle. Either 90% or 10%. Both have about the same kind of results. The closer you get to 50% the more it's closer to 0%.

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 14:35:15 2015 No.14084644

>>14084611
Just flip a coin and you'll run into streaks where you don't get head or tails 5+ times. There's no protection to stop good or bad luck streaks of RNG.

Personally ran into some terrible luck with the event but what are you going to do.
Odettes 1-4 +3 skill -2CR Odettes 4-8 +2 skill and now 6 runs in a row of no drop.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 15:31:59 2015 No.14084881 >>14084637 >fire emblem >you miss a kill with a 86% chance to hit >enemy returns and crits on a 3% crit chance with a 20% hit chance :^)

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 15:37:56 2015 No.14084904 >>14084637 Fire Emblem explicitly lies when they tell you a percentage - something like they roll twice, so 10% is more like 5%, and 80% is more like 90%.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 15:40:45 2015 No.14084909 >>14084904 If only because otherwise people get mad when they don't make that 90% hit chance and the enemy hits at 10%.

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 15:43:29 2015 No.14084917

>>14084637
Iirc, Fire Emblem actually uses a system where it takes 2 numbers from the rng string, then calculates the average, and uses this number to determine whether you hit or miss. So a 95% hit not only feels like it never misses, it really almost never does (a little below once every 400 attacks). And you really need that, because of how often you have to bet your character's life (in a game with permadeath) on the attack roll. That's why something like 50% is absolutely terrible to have.

As for the 10%, that's usually something you have with crit chances, and the crits are determined by a thrid, independent number, so the chances here are genuine. And crits are unable to miss, so if you're using a dodge based character and are used to the enemy missing almost all their attacks, the 10% crit chance of an enemy with a crit weapon is suddenly way more likely to hit than his supposed 25% normal hit chance, and dodge characters are so squishy that they pretty much instantly die to the 3x damage multiplier.

Basically, Fire Emblem is a game where all those weird suspicions about rng are actually true. It single handedly fueled an entire generation of rng paranoia.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 15:49:07 2015 No.14084929 Wow, I literally cannot handle Anteret 16 A 2000-2500 drop every single turn. Fucking ridiculous.

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 16:01:00 2015 No.14084955

>>14084929
Decree
Masha
Or any decent midgame card to soften her up before finishing her off.
Or buffcards to increase your strongest hitter above 2500.

I could see losing a match to her, but if you're stuck on it, you are probably doing something wrong and should change tactics. Unless you only just started a week ago or something, in which case I think reaching stage 16 out of 20 of an event is pretty good compared to games like Aigis.

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 16:44:12 2015 No.14085123

>>14084955
I guess the problem is I'm not drawing perfect hands, I'd need a Decree/Marsha every single turn since she has like 6 cards that are 2300 or higher. Meanwhile my heavy hitters are a 70 Antaret which has LESS fucking attack than her 65 Antaret and a shitty Slyvie at level 50. The game has not been kind to me outside of that, and I haven't even gotten any of my attack buffs for some reason. I usually have enough midpower to blunt through ONE 2500 antaret, but then she plays the next one immediately after and I'm out of shit to throw at her.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 16:54:55 2015 No.14085163 Wow, the mobile app crashed in the middle of a mission for the first time for me since the performance update. Bye stamina.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 16:58:06 2015 No.14085176 >>14085163 is it for iOS? if not, does DMM have plans on doing it? iGuess both are a "no" because adult content...

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 16:59:58 2015 No.14085183 >>14085176 Android only, apple doesn't ever want third-party apps. There's an all-ages version, but that's beside the point since DMM is the distributor.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 17:14:02 2015 No.14085243 >>14085183 well that's a shame... thx for the info tho

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 17:28:38 2015 No.14085312 File: 183 KB, 1021x608, iOS.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14085176 Someone on ulmf posted this and a pre-registration link about a month ago. http://www.dmm.com/lp/game/aigis/index009_html/=/navi=none

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 17:31:47 2015 No.14085321 >>14085163 How do you even get it on your phone? Do you need a japanese phone?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 17:32:37 2015 No.14085323 >>14085321 No. Just enable third-party apps and download the DMM store app from DMM.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 17:42:47 2015 No.14085361 >>14085312 So we can get a 5 SC gift for downloading it? Hmm. Time to borrow an ipad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 18:14:58 2015 No.14085490 >>14085361 Pre-registration never went live(or got took down really fast) but yea you'll give 5 of the red crystals for early registration. Apparently you can only use red crystals in the iOS version and blue while on web/andorid app.

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 18:35:39 2015 No.14085553

>>14085123
> I usually have enough midpower to blunt through ONE 2500 antaret, but then she plays the next one immediately after and I'm out of shit to throw at her.

See, I don't really understand that part. I mean, like, ok, you have the midgame, you got your board setup, she plays the big thing and you have the means on board to get rid of one. So it's your turn, you have 12 mana already or she wouldn't have been able to play antaret in the first place. You can sacrifice 1 creature into her to weaken her, then finish her off with whatever decent sized creature you have on the board. And now all you have to do with your 12 mana is play... anything, even if it's a small 4 or 5 drop or something. Then her turn comes along, she can do little more than play another antaret, which is very expensive, and the turn goes back to you. Now you sacrifice your small thing into her, finish her off, rinse and repeat.

You can basically trade 1 for 1 on her big drop with pretty much any creature in your deck at that point. Sure, you're losing a bit of life with that, but you have 8k to spare and spend around, 1k or so on average on each step, and when you draw a spell to do it with you can use that instead and save your LP. So where exactly does the problem come in? Is it that you have too few creatures in your deck and can't draw one even with the 2 cards you draw per turn?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 18:46:44 2015 No.14085602 >>14085553 It's mostly that I draw unusable garbage.

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 18:49:01 2015 No.14085610

>>14085123

It could be more you don't have good midgame cards or have too much non-creature cards. By the time the 2000+ drops show up, you should be way ahead on board as the boss deck seems thin on midgame. Once the big drops show up, I can field two 1500+ bodies every turn. Just before that milestone, I will have gotten some 2000 9 drop.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 18:51:06 2015 No.14085622 >>14085602 Even a 700 atk 3 drop is enough for a 2000 atk 9 drop to overpower a 2500 body. Time to go through your deck and shed unnecessary fat.

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 19:01:03 2015 No.14085667

>>14085602
Then review your deck. If these cards are not only dead draws once, but consistently dead draws on every single try, you should ask yourself why they're in your deck in the first place. When I draw what I consider a bad card, I'm talking about something that's "only ok", because if something is unusable garbage, I throw it out where garbage belongs and wouldn't put it in my deck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 19:07:43 2015 No.14085700 >>14085667 >why they're in your deck I have nothing better to use The Gachas have fucked me so hard it's not even funny.

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 19:26:32 2015 No.14085805

>>14085700
So, apparently the gachas aren't even giving you Normal cards then? Wow, that must be extremely unlucky.

Honestly, I think I've found the root of the problem, you think that normal cards are worthless garbage, and I'll tell you something about that: I think if you had gotten many SRs and SSRs, you would be even worse off in most cases, because SRs and SSRs are way more expensive to level up, and before they are levelled up enough, most of them are actually weaker than similarly levelled Normal cards. Their strength comes from a higher maximum level.

And iirc the exp formular worked such that you need twice the amount of exp for every 10 levels, which means that instead of levelling an SSR to 100, you could level about 16 Normal cards to 60. Or 32 Normal cards to 50. Which is a far stronger deck than just levelling one card to 100, and is more than enough to consistently beat the boss. So if the Gachas hadn't fucked you, you probably would've tunnel visioned even more on your shiny SSR card and neglected the rest of your deck even more than you apparently already did. And unless that specific SSR card is Flora, which very few individuals have the privilege of possessing, then that SSR alone is not going to get you anywhere.

Some of my most important units since the beginning of the game had been Annes, Jills, Saras, Rebeccas and Fiores.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 19:49:27 2015 No.14085896 File: 994 KB, 802x601, a0ae7ee0e5162c7ce8cf9f6c055cd3e2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this a good mana curve or should I throw in more of the normies mentioned here >>14085805 ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 19:51:23 2015 No.14085909 >>14085896 I'd swap out a 6 for a Machine Jill since she's a QT.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 19:55:02 2015 No.14085931 Trying to get the gold in the 2nd gold rush map is giving me a swarm of Rorones, is she any good?

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 19:56:27 2015 No.14085939

>>14085622
>>14085700
>>14085805
On this note: Consider that for the cost, Vivian and Minette are strictly worse than Fiore. Clarissa is strictly worse than Angie, basically every 3-drop is worse than Amna, basically every 5-drop is worse than Chao, and Jill is strictly worse than most 6-drops (as much as that pains me since she's a qt3.14).

>>14085909
>mfw this comes up as I'm typing
superb taste, anon
most of my power is concentrated around 6-drops, but my machine Jill and Taoist Waifu aren't going anywhere for anything

also, to that guy; swap out a prepare for battle or sap strength or two for more weakens and books of awakening. BoA is a fucking beastly card

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 20:09:19 2015 No.14085987

>>14085909
Best reason. But yes, I agree. Also, until you are willing to commit enough to level them up all the way to level 70, the Okitas will be worse than Jills.

>>14085931
She's a female bandit. If you ever thought "Hey, a high health, high attack, low defense duelist would be really useful here", but always felt weird actually investing ressources into a big, hairy, bearded man, then she's your girl.

>>14085939
>strictly worse
At max level. Until you're anywhere near that, it's the exact opposite, so I find the phrase "strictly worse" questionable, since that is a pretty significant use (not having everything maxed applies to pretty much every player right now).

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 20:22:39 2015 No.14086037

>>14085939
>>14085987
Marsha deserves mention. Besides having Decree as a death ability, her base stats are actually pretty damn high, so she's low-maintenance if you're ever drowning in wood cards to level. Her growths are garbage to compensate, but eh.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 20:26:46 2015 No.14086056 >>14085939 Jill's thing is her ability.

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 20:28:05 2015 No.14086062

>>14086037
Marsha is a really weird case because despite being a rare, she actually ends up with weaker stats than N cards, but starts out far ahead of everyone else. She's a great pick to fill a few spaces in a deck with unlevelled cards and still have something somewhat usable.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 20:47:24 2015 No.14086131 Is there any point in using Forsaken over Prepare for Battle? And should I save all these crystals for the patch that makes them better (however many months away that is) or just go ahead and dump them?

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 20:56:23 2015 No.14086166

>>14085896

In the early phases of grinding, spells make up for the low levels of cards. But once you have many Ns at Lv 40+, at least for aggro against the AI, I find spells (except Book of Awakening) are inferior. Bodies are less situational than spells/traps provided you establish board control.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 20:57:27 2015 No.14086170 >>14086131 You know you'll get them back from Limited Gacha tickets.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 21:05:26 2015 No.14086199 >>14086131 Prepare for Battle needs a character for it to work. Forsaken protects against direct attacks. Personally, I use Forsaken more.

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 22:39:32 2015 No.14086555

>>14084611
50% doesn't mean 50% for you personally. Unless they coded some weird per-player RNG, seed is shared across all players, so if you and someone else are hitting requests at same time, it could give no-drop to you and drop to second player. For it, its perfect 50%. For you, its 0%. For second player, its 100%.

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 23:04:27 2015 No.14086610

Whoah, I've actually managed to mincost my Yurina. She was dropping almost every time from last map and CRs were coming steadily.
Seems like DMM compensated for my lack of luck at Nutaku (or this is another conspiracy to make players pay for DMM instead Nutaku).

Anonymous Sat Sep 12 23:13:00 2015 No.14086636

>>14086610
I wish I can mincost my Yurina too, haven't even tried the last map since Aigis looked like she wanted me to spend an entire day's worth of stamina before getting the gold rush's completion. I have some stam now after getting Cuterie on the first try so I'll have a couple of shots on Yurina copies. I also don't want the avenger that much so I could also use that to take a few more whack at it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 12 23:35:21 2015 No.14086705 >>14086610 I probably would have if I cared about Yurina, but I don't really see myself ever using her, so I'm making more progress in the challenge quests instead.

Anonymous Sun Sep 13 01:36:46 2015 No.14087130

>>14086705
She's pretty good.

but that's just it. She's not amazing. She can't compete with Anya or Dina. Dina has everything but MR on her, but with invisible armor she can just straight up ignore magic with 30% chance, and Anya has slightly less attack for defense ignoring and 5 less MR for 50% reduction to all physical damage.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 01:48:04 2015 No.14087164 >>14087130 > compares gacha black to free event plat Are you just bragging about your whaling or what?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 01:54:12 2015 No.14087187 >>14087164 Didn't spend a single cent on SC. But if you really want to ignore gacha, Anya is a free event unit as well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 02:29:55 2015 No.14087266 >>14086131 Forsaken has the downside of sometimes being a glorified "gain 500 LP" spell because it triggers even if you don't have a card that could get value out of it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 02:42:55 2015 No.14087316 File: 408 KB, 953x635, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Now that's what I call a good start of the day. Now should I farm Valerie to CC her asap or just focus on her skill

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 03:26:48 2015 No.14087441 >>14087316 Don't feed her more copies of herself if she is already level 50. CC her first. That would be a lot of wasted exp.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 03:35:07 2015 No.14087450 >>14087441 I would normally agree with you, but right now I'm pretty much set with leveling anything that does not require faeries/cans.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 03:36:47 2015 No.14087453 File: 481 KB, 557x543, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14087441 I would normally agree with you, but right now I'm pretty much set with leveling anything that does not require faeries/cans.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 03:51:56 2015 No.14087490 This weird feeling, when you are in the middle of 2 events and already got everything you wanted. I guess I can grind plat armors or fairies for today, or even do challenges for affection items, which I need so much.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 04:16:44 2015 No.14087555 >>14087490 gold rush ain't over yet

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 04:18:48 2015 No.14087561 >>14087555 I know, but theres still good 7 hours before new map and I need to spend stamina meanwhile.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 04:40:35 2015 No.14087617 >>14087561 pfft, 7 stamina is as few as 1 challenge quest runs.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 05:12:01 2015 No.14087645 They should add "Increase drop rate" Divine Protection item. I'd keep buying it even for 10 SC/5 day.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 06:08:22 2015 No.14087769 >7 runs >4 Calliope >1 Odette Retarded RNG pls go

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 06:17:31 2015 No.14087795 >>14087769 Huh, thought I was the only one. At least I'll be set for War of Magic and finally get decent access to Black Fairies.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 06:19:18 2015 No.14087801 >>14087795 Thanks to RNG, I don't have any blacks so I don't need to worry about WoM.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 06:22:09 2015 No.14087812 File: 14 KB, 123x188, 3v3drop.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Boss stage 18. I play my 3 drop, boss plays 3 drop (Lv 65). This situation... so satisfying.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 06:24:34 2015 No.14087818 so my Odette is mincost and 9/16, is her skill ever useful? I would understand if she blocked off 60-70% magic damage, but 13% seems just so underwhelming

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 06:29:33 2015 No.14087830 >>14087818 Its decent for high-damage-low-speed magic attack bosses. We don't have any on Nutaku, but there are plenty on DMM.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 06:30:19 2015 No.14087832 >>14087818 Olivie has 25ms base, add 20ms from odette and you got yourself a 100% physical and 45% magical def duelist.

Anonymous Sun Sep 13 06:31:13 2015 No.14087838

>>14087818
On Immortal beast there are 3 liches, she really helps out here, I did it for fun with the my normal team and not a specific team and managed to easily 3* it, with only Iris and Fedora, while Sherry tanked the liches All thanks to Odettes skill raising magic resistance.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 06:36:43 2015 No.14087855 50 runs + 6 SCs and I can't complete first gold rush's map reward. I got 5 Miranda but Ether still refuse to drop ;_;

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 07:07:03 2015 No.14087922 Has anyone completed stage 20 for the angelic saga event? What rewards did it have? What about the bonus stage? I can make it to 20 but I won't have enough stamina to clear it without using all my energy drinks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 07:13:45 2015 No.14087946 >>14087922 Not sure about the stage 20 rewards but someone over at ulmf had said that the bonus stage has a good drop rate for Antaret.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 07:15:40 2015 No.14087955 >>14087946 I'm not interested in more Antaret cards so I'll pass on this if that's the only reward.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 07:51:11 2015 No.14088019 so I decided to try awakening an archer first, Bashira or Spica? I heard Spica's arrows become magic damage and that sounds rad

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:08:40 2015 No.14088057 >>14088019 spica first when awakened she deals magic dmg AND boosts attack for every archers on the map

Anonymous Sun Sep 13 08:32:58 2015 No.14088105

>>14088019
Skill Awakening and Awakening are separate things.
First you Awaken unit, its like CC, resets your level and gives your unit awakening ability.
Then, when you maxed out skill and awakened unit, you can skill awaken it, and change skill to awakened form.

Magic arrows is Spica's skill awakening. Spica's awakening ability is bonus for all archers in your team.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 09:11:17 2015 No.14088188 File: 122 KB, 1244x437, probability.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >More Calliopes in my last 8 runs than Odettes in my last 14 Please send help Something has gone terribly wrong

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 10:31:14 2015 No.14088346 >>14087645 They'd lose money if it was that cheap.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 10:32:38 2015 No.14088350 >>14087832 they're calculated separately, Odette does not add MR

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 10:44:59 2015 No.14088396 >>14088350 No, they are calculated together, with Odette bonus on top of MR.

Anonymous Sun Sep 13 10:50:23 2015 No.14088406

>>14088396
>ちなみに「魔法耐性を上げる」のではなく「魔法ダメージを軽減する」スキルなので、精密なダメージ計算をする際には留意しておこう。
実際の計算は[敵の攻撃力 x (1 - 魔法耐性 / 100) x (1 - マジックバリアで軽減分 / 100)]となる。

It's multiplicative, which is what I mean by separately, just like how the formula adds a separate set of parentheses.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 11:14:59 2015 No.14088456 File: 1.60 MB, 1205x800, heey.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] that was quick

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 11:16:12 2015 No.14088459 File: 805 KB, 956x635, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 4 runs were enough fortunately. Now back to Miranda farming

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 12:26:23 2015 No.14088686 >>14088459 Which unit drop Ether? I still can't get her

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 12:51:51 2015 No.14088767 >>14088459 I think it's one of armored units from Miranda's site but I might be wrong. I'm afk farming this map since like 3rd run

Anonymous Sun Sep 13 12:53:17 2015 No.14088772

Shit, I'm swimming in silvers on DMM. Should I just use some as level fodder? I have excess units of eight thieves, six soldiers, six archers, six ninjas, six bandits and five heavy armours. Seems like there will be more chances for silvers in the future anyway.

Also, is the gold shaman from the gold rush really worth getting? Such an ugly unit makes me reconsider and I'm low on space too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 13:06:27 2015 No.14088836 >>14088772 To save space, you can 30cc some silvers to prepare as awakening fodder.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 13:07:53 2015 No.14088846 >>14088772 >>14088772 NO. Buy box expansions. You'll thank me later. The only thing you might consider ditching is ninja or 2

Anonymous Sun Sep 13 13:09:18 2015 No.14088855

So, do we have a good list of the best cards per drop range for AS? I mean, Amna is without a doubt the best 3 drop but I'm not sure what else to fill with fodder. 8-9 drops are kinda interesting, I mean obviously Sakura is a solid 9 drop but what else is good for a deck?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 13:10:35 2015 No.14088865 >>14088772 No wonder she's ugly. She was made by the same artist who drew Daniela

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 13:21:13 2015 No.14088906 So next story missions chapter will be about this white empire? I wonder what kind of new classes it implies.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 13:28:25 2015 No.14088935 >>14088906 I just find it silly that they hadn't heard of them until now. That's like not having heard of Russia.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 13:47:13 2015 No.14088987 File: 533 KB, 960x639, wow.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] just, wow

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 13:52:17 2015 No.14089001 >>14088987 Is this drop hacking?

Anonymous Sun Sep 13 14:03:43 2015 No.14089051

>>14088855
> without a doubt the best 3 drop

Only under the pretext of infinite resources to max out everything ever. What do you want from a 3 drop? About 700 atk if it comes out on curve. If it comes out lategame, you're putting down many face-downs where cheap chaff hopefully misdirects attacks so your big threat gets a turn to act. In other words, you don't care what the stats are if it comes out lategame.

Amna's ability costs 1 mana. If you're using that on turn 2 instead of casting a 5 drop, you are hopelessly behind when the opponent plays a 6 drop. Actually, there is no 4 drop light element so there's little practicality to that ability.

So, under ordinary resource availability (including money), levelling Amna isn't as cost effective as levelling say, Nora . Of course, you could just use Amna without levelling her at all. But event bosses will have better 3 drops than a Lv 1 Amna.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 14:12:09 2015 No.14089078 >>14089051 Yeah but with your logic we might as well compromise our deck entirely of Normal rarity cards so we can level as hard as possible.

Anonymous Sun Sep 13 14:16:41 2015 No.14089093

>>14089051
I find one cost abilities to be pretty useful- last arena I dropped an Angie on my 1st turn since I didn't pull a 3drop, they didn't play anything and then I played a Chao. Their 6 drop had more attack than my Chao, but was a dark so after I played my own 6 drop I was able to use Angie to soften their 6 drop with a free 300atk.
You'll argue it's not a proper situation since he didn't play a two or four drop, but it's a real world one.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 15:02:49 2015 No.14089261 I'm missing that 2 SC a day already. How often does DMM Aigis do something like that?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 15:09:31 2015 No.14089296 >>14089261 Never before in the time I've been playing. They compensate you for just about everything because waifus are serious business but we've never had 60 for free. 1 or 2 each problem or emergency maintenance/maintenance extension is the norm.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 15:29:32 2015 No.14089391 AS Gacha rates are really making me want to cry, 80 normal gachas and not a single new card.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 15:39:15 2015 No.14089452 >>14089391 I got anastasia from normal gacha once, so I guess HRs do drop once in a while.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 15:43:15 2015 No.14089467 >first gold-rush ever >all these units I never seen before Damn. Don't even know who to level

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 15:45:44 2015 No.14089476 >>14089467 At some point I found out that the plat units you farm are previous event units that all cost 2 more than similar rarity units

Anonymous Sun Sep 13 15:48:44 2015 No.14089482

>>14089078

You're taking the logic to impractical extremes. My point is, you can't afford to upgrade higher rarity cards unless they bring significant value to your deck. If you just need a well-trained body for the earlygame, you don't need a high rarity unit who guzzles resources to get fit.

>>14089093

No, I argue you could have gotten a permanent 300 atk if you got out a 7 drop (if you had one in hand) instead of a 6 drop and a temporary 300 atk. Yes that temporary 300 atk is available immediately but in the earlygame, it's better to be getting bigger bodies out than desperately trying to keep the board clean.

That's not to say those 1-cost abilities are trash. I love my (face-down) Okita for smashing Miya, Asuka or Framboise showing up afterwards. Just that often, getting the best body down with all your mana is more important.

Anonymous Sun Sep 13 15:49:46 2015 No.14089487

man I need silver armors so bad.

I need about 17

I have 0.

please game.

>>14089476
All event units cost 2 more than a normal unit of that rarity. It's normally fairly simple to get to -2, but for gold rush it's not. It's still a way to get them without having to farm revival crystals so it's pretty solid.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 16:27:50 2015 No.14089599 >>14088987 >>14089001 either that or edited image

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 17:21:42 2015 No.14089809 File: 120 KB, 1024x1024, why.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Get Odette after 4 runs without drops >Combine >No skill up, no cost reduction

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 17:32:57 2015 No.14089864 >>14089809 If it makes you feel any better, my Odette got min cost today

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 17:51:27 2015 No.14089950 >>14089487 I used to have a ton of spare silver armors but I dunno where they went, now I only have the 4 I need to awaken Deine left.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 18:06:49 2015 No.14090026 >>14089809 >>14089864 Two more Odette combines, no skill up, no cost reduction. Your words bring no solace. And another Calliope - what do I do with all these silver witches?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 18:07:08 2015 No.14090028 >>14090026 War of Magic.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 18:29:21 2015 No.14090096 >>14090028 I was planning on just biting the bullet and paying for the +5 UP - what's the minimum for doing it? 334 attack, how much cost reduction?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 18:31:16 2015 No.14090105 >>14088772 >>14088865 Some of us happen to like Daniela - I can't wait for Mitra to drop if it's the same artist.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 18:38:35 2015 No.14090125 File: 111 KB, 285x307, crystals.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who should I CR 1st?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 18:39:36 2015 No.14090128 >>14090125 Spica

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 18:47:14 2015 No.14090150 >>14090125 Saki will be there longer than spica make your decision knowing that

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 18:52:24 2015 No.14090169 >>14090150 There are only 5 plats which keep rotating. So Spica will be back some time later once it goes full round.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 19:10:16 2015 No.14090237 Accidentally start Odette final mission with my DH team. Still 3* it.with Rowanna tanking Odette. Get an Odette drop. Feels good.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 19:33:42 2015 No.14090326 Where can I get awakening fairies?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 19:35:23 2015 No.14090330 >>14090326 The trading post for 100 demon crystals.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 21:18:47 2015 No.14090703 >>14090169 well i didn't say she would be gone for good, just pointed out that saki will be there longer than spica

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 21:22:50 2015 No.14090712 Those silver units in the trading post, do I trade 100k gold and a silver unit for one?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 21:44:31 2015 No.14090787 >>14090712 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 21:44:35 2015 No.14090788 What's the chance of getting Odette's last CR? Mine's @ 36 (CC) and it's starting to irritate. She's been on 36 for at least 10 Odette's (probably 12)

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 21:47:10 2015 No.14090794 >>14090788 25%, same as the previous 2.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 21:48:24 2015 No.14090797 File: 3.01 MB, 480x270, z6ixtQP.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14090794

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 21:51:10 2015 No.14090802 >>14090797 I'm in the same situation, friend, though I'm still stuck at -2.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 22:03:37 2015 No.14090838 What are good classes to try to awaken first?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 22:12:21 2015 No.14090865 >>14090838 I'm assuming a healer, Archer, and soldier. But I haven't awoken any myself.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 22:14:54 2015 No.14090869 >>14090096 I believe it's 1000 attack in 34(?) cost.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 22:15:55 2015 No.14090875 >>14090838 Archer/Heavy Armor or the two that people usually start with.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 22:17:14 2015 No.14090880 >>14090865 I'd say an awoken armor is more important than an awoken soldier, unless it's Jerome maybe. And if you have any blacks, those are also good choices in any class oftentimes just because they're strong.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 22:17:55 2015 No.14090882 >>14090880 Is the extra block that important?

>>	Xcellion Sun Sep 13 22:18:59 2015 No.14090884 So what's the status on Odette for everyone? I got her max cost reduced fairly early so I'm just doing the map whenever to see how high I can skill her up.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 22:19:46 2015 No.14090887 >>14090884 10/16, max cr

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 22:25:36 2015 No.14090898 >>14090788 mine's still at 38 being feeding non stop since i got to last map she drops consistenly 3/4 of the time for me i'm about to collapse, event's almost over and she's bitching like this

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 22:25:37 2015 No.14090899 File: 251 KB, 600x599, how am i doing you ask.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14090884

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 22:30:06 2015 No.14090908 >>14090884 7/16, max CR. Looking for Calliopes more than Odette at this point. Need a couple more then hopefully it'll be just a matter of levels, affection and placement to clear War of Magic.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 22:30:52 2015 No.14090910 File: 255 KB, 759x608, odette.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14090884 Been having decent luck with drops but terrible luck with these cost reductions. Put about 16 Odettes into the first one and 7 in the second.

>>	Xcellion Sun Sep 13 22:31:38 2015 No.14090914 >>14090887 Oooh, same skill level. I just got her there right now. Though it took 4 of her to do it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 13 22:33:40 2015 No.14090921 >>14090882 Extra stat, you don't tank boss with soldier.

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 00:27:45 2015 No.14091427

These noroi tsukai are kinda myona mono. Their debuffs sounds like extra useful to pin down both tough enemies (with attack debuff) and zako rush (with that insta-death below 5%), but at same time numbers are too small and usually I need ranged slots for more useful stuff.
Did anyone use plat one in the past?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 00:37:05 2015 No.14091477 >>14090884 Got her at 8/16 min-cost and now trying to get enough valeries for second day. Done N dozens of times and got only one valerie so far.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 00:43:41 2015 No.14091518 >>14091427 日本語が使いたいなら使えばいいだろう

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 00:50:10 2015 No.14091543

>>14091427
They're useful for enemies like 90/12's Iron Golem who do a ton of damage and usually one-shot units in one hit, but attack super slow. Their passive damage debuff makes it easier for you to tank them with a unit without getting one-shotted. And healing back up in between attacks is easy.

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 00:52:44 2015 No.14091551

>>14091543
I guess that counts for attack debuff.
Still cannot come up with any use case for insta-death ability tho, if you can get something to 5% hp, its not going to be of any help and you would definitely want more firepower if you have problem with them slipping through with last bits of hp.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 00:52:57 2015 No.14091553 Got Cypria for level 30. Is she useful? Are Thieves useful in general?

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 00:56:11 2015 No.14091563

>>14091553
Rogues != Thieves, thats different class.
Cypria can be live-saver for many missions, but her skill is luck-based so you would need several attempts with exactly same setup to get favourable outcome, and people dismiss her for this reason (as they want guaranteed setup instead).

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 01:08:28 2015 No.14091619 >>14091563 I dunno, the only use I can think of that rogues that aren't black excel in is blocking a moderately strong unit at a low cost, it's not really about their skills.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 01:17:19 2015 No.14091650 >>14091619 She's useful at beginning, when you can't deal with black armors head on. Armor graveyard and some other missions on the way to dragon hunting can be done at much lower level if you rely on insta-kill.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 01:39:47 2015 No.14091746 >>14091553 If you're playing in dmm, she can help out by killing big mummies or delay it at least.

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 03:07:35 2015 No.14091971

>>14091619
>>14091650
Most tactics for progressing to Dragon Hunting early tend to involve rogues in some way if you don't have specific Gacha units, because the skill is the best thing you have against early armours and the inconsistency doesn't matter if your goal is to just get through the map a single time to unlock other stuff. After that it's hard to find a use, but I think they were resistant against paralysis enemies thanks to the dodge.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 03:19:44 2015 No.14091992 >>14091971 But if you want a tougher unit with dodge, there are monks who can block 2.

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 03:46:07 2015 No.14092032

>>14091992
Hmm... how does paralysis interact with dodge when blocking multiple enemies? I think the way it worked is that dodge resets the counter for when you get paralysed, which is why dodge units are so resistant to it, but if 2 units attack, do you need to dodge both at the same time to avoid paralysis? If yes, then blocking 2 might not actually be what you want.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 05:02:15 2015 No.14092171 >>14091746 Different guy here, but how does she do this? Any unit I place in front of big mummy melts like butter. Do rogues have boosted evade chance against avengers?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 05:13:11 2015 No.14092189 Got all GR units so far. Which one should I grind in remaining time, Miranda or Flan? I don't have any other HA or VHs besides them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 05:14:11 2015 No.14092193 >>14092189 * plat or above HA/VH I have golds and silvers of course.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 05:15:35 2015 No.14092194 >>14092171 Rogues have evade and other units besides monks don't. A chance to not get instagibbed is better than a 100% chance to get instagibbed. She can also possibly assassinate it.

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 05:18:56 2015 No.14092202

>>14092171
If even you toughest girl can take more than 2 hits, and healing just isn't doing it's job fast enough. A rogue may be better. They dodge better and if they can take the hit, even if they are only at 1 hp, they can get healed if they dodge the next. Also instant kill chance.
So long as they can take atleast one hit t

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 05:32:42 2015 No.14092238 >>14092189 Miranda. Flan needs to be CR'd to be decently useful. Also, gold priest warrior and Julian are other decent choices.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 05:37:21 2015 No.14092251 >>14092238 > Also, gold priest warrior and Julian are other decent choices I wish they'd let grind gold units too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 05:38:26 2015 No.14092255 Do I understand it correctly from the wiki that the Angel skill gets better on CC (3 blocks instead of 2), but remains the same skill? So if I level up the skill before CCing, the levels should carry over, right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 05:40:10 2015 No.14092261 >>14092255 Yes. All Fallen Angels have exactly same skill.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 05:53:11 2015 No.14092285 >>14092255 Pretty sure you wanna max that skill out as it makes a huge difference.

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 06:02:32 2015 No.14092296

>>14092261
>Fallen Angel

Oh, that's why they tend to look demonic before awakening. The class is just called "angel" and I thought it was just some kind of dark interpretation of angels, but if they're fallen it makes a lot more sense now. Didn't notice they have "fallen angel" in their character names.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 06:13:40 2015 No.14092307 >>14092296 That's why they need binding release skill to begin with.

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 06:18:07 2015 No.14092311

>>14092296
On that note, how good are they? I'm contemplating whether I should get the one from trading post (a few copies of her for CR and skillups) since she's super cute and the only angel I really like. Having a cheap temporarily high powered unit sounds useful for maps with short difficulty spikes in between.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 06:43:54 2015 No.14092359 >>14092311 Use their skill at the right time and they can likely tank a boss. Atleast that's what it seems like. I need to use them myself.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 07:27:53 2015 No.14092420 "Emergency" AS maintenance soon, think we'll get any sort of comp since the event is still on?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 07:30:26 2015 No.14092424 >>14092420 I suspect its the end of event maintenance. It's not like Nutaku bothers telling us when events start so why should they tell us when they end?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 07:33:00 2015 No.14092426 >>14092424 There's still 21 hours listed in the countdown literally just below the game window. At least try to make sense when you decide to bash Nutaku.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 08:02:35 2015 No.14092484 >>14092424 AS was always transparent and on time with these things (+-5 minutes at most), what are you talking about?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 08:47:51 2015 No.14092568 >>14085163 Is the app for dmm only? Or has Nutaku finally released their version yet?

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 09:18:40 2015 No.14092642

What are the preferred fodder stages on the dmm version? I've been doing the 30 charisma desert mission for quite a while now since it had 4 copper unit drops at low charisma cost and was as far as I could get at the time, but I completely forgot that I should be able to push a lot further by now if there's something better.

The 30 charisma mission seems to do pretty well on the exp per charisma value, thanks to the low charisma cost, but it's difficult to judge since I can't find any info on the droprates for each mission. It's also becoming a lot more expensive to run, so a higher mission with at least similar exp per charisma values would be a nice upgrade.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 09:23:32 2015 No.14092649 >>14092642 Next grinding spot is 拠点争奪戦・後, but its very hard mission.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 09:29:42 2015 No.14092668 >>14090884 Max CR, 10/16 Last 4 odette's that I fed her have resulted in nothing. So for the last day I'm going to attempt to farm some more valeries instead. Seems like a better investment.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 09:30:15 2015 No.14092672 Onsen FINALLY gave me a usable card, Demon Novice Rosemary.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 09:34:32 2015 No.14092686 >>14092668 Yeah i finally hit max cr after 19 odettes, was at -4 cr and 10 skill for a since about 12 of them. I'm going to keep doing x mainly for calliope and some odettes on the off chance for a free skill up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 09:49:55 2015 No.14092739 Fucking finally, mincost Odette and her skills at 9/16 had to use 2 SC for the last CR, worth it though. Now It feels like I'm done with the event.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 11:38:07 2015 No.14092965 >>14092189 I'd say Flan, I feel like she benefits more from cost reduction.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 11:40:46 2015 No.14092975 File: 664 KB, 736x633, aigis_16.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fastest completion during this GR. I even got 2 Pashis and 2 Momiji.

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 11:50:12 2015 No.14093000

>>14090884
My Odette is 50cc41 with 9/16 and cost at 37.
Been stuck on 37 since Wednesday.

A friend of mine wanted me to play his account too because he can't be bothered (and spent $700 on it) and he currently has a level 38cc0 Odette with 3/16 and 33 cost
I think I'm being efficient right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 14:15:48 2015 No.14093430 Just came across a deck in arena grinding, it was entirely water cards with stuff like Crystal of the Floods to buff them [screams extremely quietly] I dealt with it incredibly easy since arena AI is predictable as fuck and incredibly easy to bait.

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 14:34:30 2015 No.14093478

So people who are mincosting Odette - are you buying and spending SCs, or just really lucky?
Stuck at 37, 6 skill, and I've dumped two SCs into it.

Thinking of just leaving her - don't want to reward Nutaku for a month long hiatus by buying gold, and it would take a lot of SCs to get the roughly 8 Odettes needed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 14:36:25 2015 No.14093483 >>14093430 I used 2 SC earlier to get my last CR, I'm sure there are plenty who didn't use any and mincost her though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 14:36:32 2015 No.14093484 >>14093430 Water lacks good early drops so I don't know why that deck would be scary. The current incarnations of the Crystals of X are overcosted for the effect and were buffed on DMM.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 14:40:01 2015 No.14093495 >>14093478 I didn't spend any crystals, but I got -3 cost from my last set of 4 Odettes so only ended up needing 12 total for CR-5 and 6/16 skill.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 14:41:17 2015 No.14093499 >>14093478 I spent 3 SCs and I have her min costed and at 8/16. I made out like a bandit it appears; I am not chasing the max skill though, if I get a skill up or two I'll be happy.

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 14:44:24 2015 No.14093510

>>14093484
It wasn't scary, I was just screaming because it made me WHY hard.
I mean, I could shut down his deck with a single solid earth drop and the only thing it'll really do well against is my fire cards. I just don't see how such a niche deck could really be seen as reasonable considering most people run a balanced deck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 14:45:37 2015 No.14093513 >>14093430 A fresh approach to deck building, but I wouldn't want to mono-element crystal on water.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 14:47:55 2015 No.14093521 >>14093510 The lack of coloured mana really hurts deck diversity thus far. But seeing Keyaki and Hinoki (tutor up the next card in element X with haste), the future looks hopeful.

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 14:59:54 2015 No.14093552

>>14093478
Gonna spend the rest of today and spend some crystals on her. Spent 7 so far and am at 31 cost and 10/16 skill. Only reason I spend any right now is cause I bought a bunch a couple months ago and they are gonna expire real soon. So I may as well spend them somewhere.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 15:10:23 2015 No.14093582 New event announced: revival for Fallen Angel Kloe for a week. Her stats look damn nice, and I just thought of getting myself an angel from trade post.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 15:13:58 2015 No.14093592 >>14093478 I used a free lvl refill and 1 sc to get to max cr and 10/16

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 15:18:54 2015 No.14093609 >>14093582 Nice, I just CC'd and started raising mine that I got from her original event. Maybe now I'll be able to mincost and max skill her?

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 15:21:52 2015 No.14093622

>>14093510
I almost did it with the starter green deck. Synergy is a good mechanic if designed appropriately, I gave that idea up when I did the math and realized that I generally want a 6 drop to play since that seems to be the most important drop in the game currently. The board state for small drops is not significantly stronger it seems then playing mid range; please tell me if I am wrong but I have not seen an aggro deck ever, just mid ranges and boss control decks.

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 15:25:23 2015 No.14093637

>>14093622
Also the 11 drop seems to me to incredibly important as well as it is the limit to card cost and depending on the card swing games rather hard examples being: Miyabi and the wallet warrior sabre knockoff that can destroy people not teched for her.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 15:27:03 2015 No.14093640 >>14093582 Where is this announced? I'm not seeing it on DMM.com

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 15:32:35 2015 No.14093655 >>14093640 It's from twitter. They almost always give update info first on twitter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 15:36:45 2015 No.14093671 three gachas and all I got was another Fatima.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 16:18:41 2015 No.14093774 >>14092568 well they posted a pic about that on Facebook (/nutakugames/photos/a.319680614882181.1073741828.267068993476677/408613419322233/) but not a word ever since...

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 16:22:46 2015 No.14093779 Huh, did not expect to actually min cost Odette. Skill 7/16 though but I'm not going to burn more stamina for her.

Xcellion Mon Sep 14 16:45:16 2015 No.14093821

>>14093478
I just got lucky. I posted a picture either on this thread or the previous on my first fuse for Odette which with 3 spares gave me -3 UC and +3 Skill.

If it weren't for something like that happening at the very beginning of the event I'd still probably need to cost reduce her by now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 17:23:39 2015 No.14093968 File: 353 KB, 933x839, Antaret20.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just beat Antaret 20. Some of the bigger cards I encountered while I beat her up slowly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 17:26:22 2015 No.14093973 >>14093968 Seems like a good thing the AI is so bad.

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 17:32:55 2015 No.14093997

>>14093968
So how do you win? just pack 3 Decrees and Marshas and take the 2k damage from the marsha trigger or do you have the EX cards that hit the strong cards from the tourny? I can't handle any of this shit, thanks for convincing me to not spend any potions. Did you get off a super Miyabi?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 17:35:19 2015 No.14094008 >>14093968 Also can you tell us what the bonus stage is oh brave wallet warrior.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 17:51:43 2015 No.14094081 >>14093968 >Ultimate Hunter Espase >Skill : None snort

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 17:55:28 2015 No.14094100
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>>14093968
I just beat her too. Had to chug like eight energy drinks just to get through the last two quests though.

This match probably could've gone a lot cleaner, but I felt like playing dangerously, up to and including suiciding Marsha against an Anteret.

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 17:57:51 2015 No.14094110

>>14094008

http://harem-battle.club/wiki/Angelic-Saga/AngelicSaga:Quests

Since I don't want a 3rd Antaret, I'll be instead putting what sta I have left into 20-4 to get more wood mats.

>>14093997

No, the AI stumbled in the earlygame and couldn't recover after that. Most dangerous moment for me was Hinoki + EX-Iris... except the AI turned the latter face-up to kill my 3 drop (who was frozen from Forcefield of Light). So on my turn...

- Decree on Hinoki
- Anne (1710 atk 8 drop) shoots EX-Iris
- Sakura (2001 atk 9 drop) punches tapped Hinoki
- Get Miya (1508 atk 6 drop) out

Orco shows up.

- Sac Miya into Orco
- Sakura punches Orco
- Get out Candella (2301 11 drop)

So when Antaret showed up, I could have sac'd Anne into her and then slash with Candella. But as luck would have it, I had a decree so I let Anne live. By that point, I had won but dragged it out to see more cards. Had 2 Natalie in my hand if I got board wiped by Shalif.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 18:03:29 2015 No.14094145 >>14094081 She's a 2700 atk 10 drop with substantial def too. That's more atk than maxed out Sylvie or Primrose (and others) while being cheaper.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 18:11:58 2015 No.14094198 >>14092649 Phew, you're right, it was pretty tough, but I beat it. Thanks. If the rest is even more difficult, I'm not sure I can get further, but what would be the next good grinding spot to aim for after this? Just so I know what to prepare for.

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 18:12:35 2015 No.14094205

>>14094110
My match went something like:

-Level 75 Rosemary (1600 attack) on my turn
-1800 attack Kunugi on AI's turn
-use Book of Awakening on Rosemary, beat Kunugi
-second Kunugi and facedown shows up
-beat second Kunugi, ignore the facedown in case it's Reve
-it's EX Jill, and AI suicides her into my Rosemary to trigger her deck discard effect
-AI starts bringing out Orcos
-I summon Sylvie (level 50, so only 2200 attack), Flora, and Hinoki in the meantime; only Flora is strong enough to kill the Orcos
-Orco attacks Hinoki, triggers her reinforcements effect, I get blah Ryumei
-Anteret starts rolling herself out
-kill the first Anteret by suiciding Ryumei then finishing off with Sylvie, meanwhile summon Marsha
-kill second Anteret by suiciding Marsha, finishing off with Sylvie, then direct attack with Rosemary and Flora for the win

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 18:17:05 2015 No.14094241 >>14094205 Hmm yeah, smashing Marsha into 3500 is reckless indeed. Thanks to the AI's misplay and my timely decrees, I didn't go below 5000 Life.

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 18:21:35 2015 No.14094263

>>14094241
I was going to win either way, so I thought I'd put Marsha's ability to good use. I'd been suiciding weaker units (Natalie, Ryumei, etc.) all game, hence why my LP at the end was so low, so I figured what the hell.

Halfway through the bonus quest. Got tons of dark mats, but no sign of third Anteret yet. This is discouraging.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 18:39:49 2015 No.14094354 >>14094110 I guess I need to git gud, every card you mention having I have an equivalent at equal or high level. I did do the sin of spoiling my HR rather then getting my average party level as high as possible.

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 18:39:52 2015 No.14094355

>Need 2 silves mages to cc odette.
>run Monster Extermination H about 20 times and get nothing.
>decide to spend some sc on rare gatcha
> get calliope when I already have 5 from odette farm
>get gold Mehlis and Cyrus back to back

Whyyyyyyyyy do you test me so.....

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 18:45:03 2015 No.14094377 >>14094355 Sometimes Aigis likes to screw you in new and fun ways.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 18:46:23 2015 No.14094387 >>14094355 Desire sensor engaged!

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 18:54:30 2015 No.14094420

>>14094354

A lot depends on who screws up on mana curve first. If you stick 2 bodies when the AI only has 1 during the ramp-up phase, it's relatively easy to maintain board control. Last event's boss 20 was brutal because our levels were lower and Victoire/Primrose could overturn board advantage.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 18:56:40 2015 No.14094427 What asshole unit drops the silver on the last Gold Rush map? Or doesn't drop the silver, for me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 19:03:52 2015 No.14094449 I could have SWORN Asami Higashi had smaller tits before 4 heart. I mean is it just me or did they grow.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 19:08:27 2015 No.14094463 So what's the point of three (or even two) Anteret anyways? I can only ever see myself using one in my deck, I'd like to have good variety amongst my end-game cards.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 19:12:54 2015 No.14094477 File: 241 KB, 758x638, phalanxhunting.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Oh boy, I leveled up, what to spend all this charisma on...

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 20:08:28 2015 No.14094628 Magician Marielle. Hell yeah. How useful is that 4MP 200 buff in practical use anyways?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 20:09:52 2015 No.14094633 >Get the +5 SC bonus from leveling >Already have Sybilla, Lilia, Karma and Themis >Gets Sherry What do I do with all of these princesses?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 20:20:30 2015 No.14094663 >>14094633 fug them anon, fug all of them. Be the royalist motherfucker you can be and fug the shit outta your cousin Sybilla and then go on DMM and fug her little sister as well.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 20:22:39 2015 No.14094671 >>14094663 Sybilla has a little sister?

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 20:37:09 2015 No.14094713

I'm searching for a Japanese site for PeroPero Seduction that had all card's level pics but I can't seem to find it again, all I'm getting is http://peropero.wiki.fc2.com even with reverse searchs.
What I remember is it having like two columns for the cards, with some filters on top, and then when you clicked on one card a sort of pop-up appeared and you could click on the different levels and it changed the displayed card to their lewder ones.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 20:41:51 2015 No.14094724 >>14094671 Grill with the spear she is a sapphire princess that you get with one of the artbooks. I think her name is Patel

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 20:46:14 2015 No.14094736 File: 297 KB, 960x640, 0bdc5fd1a2c2ec21.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14094671 I don't actually know if there is an age difference to be honest.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 20:49:10 2015 No.14094748 >>14094713 http://www.outofstandard.jp/peropero/card.php

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 20:51:49 2015 No.14094751 >>14094748 Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 20:55:35 2015 No.14094761 >>14094724 Well I don't have the art book, so I'll just stick to my current pile of Princesses.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 21:04:38 2015 No.14094776 >>14094724 Patel's from the 3rd light novel, Tsukai the Monster Controller is from the artbook.

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 21:05:57 2015 No.14094781

>>14094761
You can only get sapphires from buying physical memorabilia if you really want that shit there were anons linking and buying the books in previous threads. Her stats are kinda shit but she from what I can tell has an ok awakening which is kinda a waste given what other more useful units get.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 21:23:30 2015 No.14094825 >>14094748 http://www.outofstandard.jp/peropero/detail.php?id=2012&keepThis=true&TB_iframe=true&height=450&width=810 YES. YES. YES.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 21:48:07 2015 No.14094895 Wow, actually lost an arena since I got garbage draws and the AI behaved way differently than it has in literally 100 other arena matches. That's kinda fucked.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 21:58:23 2015 No.14094913 File: 406 KB, 960x640, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fucking finally... now i can focus on DH and Phalanx 2 again.... hurray

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 21:59:46 2015 No.14094917 >>14094913 also, i didnt get a single witch from farming only 60/6 sice i got there...

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 22:14:43 2015 No.14094953 >>14094913 Same here. Got it today too. Took ~20 from 36 to hit 35. How many more months 'till the next event?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 22:23:31 2015 No.14094986 File: 11 KB, 251x251, wontdealwithit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14094953 At least 6 And expect no compensation or any patches that add meaningful content from the DMM version.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 22:23:48 2015 No.14094988 >>14094953 2 week break, followed by an accidental leak and then a delay for 4 weeks

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 22:24:55 2015 No.14094991 >>14094953 Delay will grow exponentially, so next one shouldn't be earlier than 6 months from now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 22:31:05 2015 No.14095009 >>14094988 That injection of 5 SC and the 2 plats kinda removes the need for a recovery. I know I am complaining about a good thing making the break less needed (for free players).

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 22:33:08 2015 No.14095015 >>14095009 That isn't compensation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 22:50:12 2015 No.14095073 >>14095015 I never said it was compensation, the timing of the implementation of the 5 SC which made this event a net gain in SC making me more then ready for another event.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 23:43:47 2015 No.14095226 >>14094913 Welcome to the mincost club, Anon. My cost was 10 SCs today, how bad was yours? God, I can't wait for the premium summons to change - Samurai are trash.

Anonymous Tue Sep 15 00:03:16 2015 No.14095308

Just rolled a Vincent on Nutaku. Any reason to keep him when I have a max Bashira, Soma, and a fresh and budding Spica? Or should I sell him into forced slavery for gold? I guess the same question also applies to the Stray hiding in my army for a while.

Anonymous Tue Sep 15 00:08:44 2015 No.14095335

>>14095308
There's no reason to ever dispose unique units. With 3rd barrack, you can hold ~750 units. Much less selling silver and above for fucking gold. You should be drowning in gold on Nutaku.

Also, man only missions. Also, VHs have bonus against undead, they are very good against mummies, which are very troublesome common desert story maps enemy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 00:14:26 2015 No.14095361 >>14095335 Also silvers will be in high demand once awakening is implemented in a few years or so

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 00:29:45 2015 No.14095403 >>14095335 How do I get more barracks? I have spent only a few sc on space and can only hold 91 units. Im up to 82 silvers and above...

Anonymous Tue Sep 15 00:29:50 2015 No.14095404
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I spent my last two SC as a desperate attempt to mincost Odette.
Zero drops from 2 SCs.

I guess that's it. Here's my Odette for the end of the event.
I got her, 1 Valarie which was used for CC and 4 surplus Calliopes.

Been stuck on 37 since Wednesday and I guess it'll stay that way.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 00:34:44 2015 No.14095420 >>14095403 > Im up to 82 silvers > can only hold 91 units Are you just trolling or what?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 00:40:14 2015 No.14095440 >>14095404 The drop rates of this event were absolute horse-shit. I don't give a shit what the chinks and weeaboos @ DMM say, Nutaku's rates are rigged.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 00:42:04 2015 No.14095447 >>14095440 This thread is full of people who managed to mincost her. Rates were okay for Odette.

Anonymous Tue Sep 15 00:44:17 2015 No.14095460

>>14095403
You need to buy all space expansions (about 30 times?), then you pay additional 30 SC for each barrack (each stores 250 units at separate tab).
Next time you decide to spend 5 SC on random gold unit which you will sell for fucking gold later, you should rethink and spend on box expansion instead.

Anonymous Tue Sep 15 00:51:48 2015 No.14095477

>>14095447
It also has the flip side of people who weren't able to.
I got plenty of Odettes, yes, but it was mincosting that was the issue.

All in all, Odette is better than my gold mages even not min-costed.
So I need to decide who to bench
Mehlis who isn't mincosted, but has 505 attack
or Barbastroff who is mincosted, but has 475 attack.
Both at 100% Affection/Trust

Anonymous Tue Sep 15 00:55:27 2015 No.14095494

>>14095460
Ah, I see thanks. Ill start doing that. I really just roll because I hope for something that I would really use like platinums and in theory, blacks. Or golds like mehlis who have been extreamly useful as my only mage other than valerie untill this event. The other units often get fed to someone else for skill up purposes.

>>14095420
I have 82 units. Silver and above, including gold, platinum and my one black Karma. I had bought one or two extra spaces which puts me at 91 possible slots. I might have picked up a few slots from leveling.

Not sure how you think I am trolling.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 01:00:18 2015 No.14095502 >>14095494 Not that guy, but you said 82 silvers, not 82 s+.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 01:08:04 2015 No.14095527 >>14095502 >>14095403 You might want to reread that. He said "82 silvers and above".

>>	Kuremisago Tue Sep 15 01:51:47 2015 No.14095657 File: 577 KB, 1600x900, Hell, It's About Time.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Finally mincost. Jeez, -4 took ~12 copies, and then -5 I get on the first try, so I have a couple spares. Keep em or feed for hopefully another skillup?

>>	Kuremisago Tue Sep 15 01:53:20 2015 No.14095661 >>14095657 Also, maybe Aigis was being snarky but I was stuck with exactly 50% drop rate for the whole event. 21 odettes in 42 runs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 01:54:24 2015 No.14095663 >>14095657 What benefit would you get from an inferior Odette? The chance might be low, but having another copy of her isn't going to help much, imo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 01:55:33 2015 No.14095666 File: 516 KB, 960x640, Odette_skill_up.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This lucky bastard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 02:01:54 2015 No.14095683 Well mincosting Odette was a shitshow, but I now have 12 Calliopes - I started with 2.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 02:02:31 2015 No.14095685 >>14095663 Odette is getting revival events all the time on DMM, so even Nutaku is going to have one one day. Some maps, like last Yurina's, require 2 maxed out mages, so there's a use for her.

>>	Kuremisago Tue Sep 15 02:05:40 2015 No.14095693 >>14095663 In just raw firepower, she's pretty damn strong. Especially since my only other mage is Valerie.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 02:24:35 2015 No.14095760 All the Gold Rush maps have dropped - how's everyone doing? Couldn't beat the golem, but other than that I'm pretty happy. Trying to max out Flan - if nothing else, it's a great source of Black Fairies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 02:29:02 2015 No.14095776 >>14095760 3*ed everything including the Golem map, have all the Completion Rewards except Julian.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 02:31:48 2015 No.14095783 >>14095760 Are you me? I couldn't beat the golem and am farming Flans too.

Anonymous Tue Sep 15 02:47:19 2015 No.14095814
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>>14095760
got all the golds and then went back to farming for Yurina.

Just now mincosted her with 6/10 skill. Can't decide if I want to farm for Rorone or silver armors next. I already have Elizabeth for VH so I don't need a low cost flan.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 03:11:54 2015 No.14095896 >>14095440 3/4 of the time for me 50% supposedly drop was fine, what was fucked up was the CR part

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 03:14:21 2015 No.14095906 >>14095896 Fucked everyone. Rigged event confirmed.

Anonymous Tue Sep 15 03:21:05 2015 No.14095923

Actually i found this same luck with Maribel's event; droped as supposed, and got her to mincost at the first days of second week, but that's the point, her event was 2 weeks long

Maybe we just felt the pressure of a single-week event on it's last hours

Anonymous Tue Sep 15 03:21:26 2015 No.14095924
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My experience was relatively as expected.
Drop rate evened out decently enough over the course of the event, though Calliope went a fair bit over the supposed 10% rate.
Didn't keep much track of CR but I hit -4 on one Odette and -5 on the other after about 16 each. Both ended up with 8 skill.

Moral of the story is be a good goy and spend those SC

Anonymous Tue Sep 15 03:28:03 2015 No.14095937
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>>14095924
>Calliope went a fair bit over the supposed 10% rate.

you telling me there was such a thing as Calliope drop on the last map?
the same last map i kept grinding ever since i got there?
i guess i'm just not gonna get past WoM unless i manage to roll a Despara

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 03:31:21 2015 No.14095951 >>14095937 Guess I got your Calliopes

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 03:32:09 2015 No.14095956 >>14095937 There will be gold witch in trade post Soon™.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 03:43:35 2015 No.14095984 >>14095760 3*'d everything on first try, got all the golds but only got 2 plat unit drops, am now farming random shit at whim, having horrible luck today with spirit rescue god tier.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 03:45:07 2015 No.14095987 New story mission for DMM Aigis (I was wrong, its Magic City instead White Empire), 1.5 drop rate for all story mission maps. 2 new silver units added for new story map(s).

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 03:47:19 2015 No.14095994 File: 22 KB, 429x540, CO6ZZdGXAAEPPKU.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Silver Magical Swordsman Kashis

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 03:47:21 2015 No.14095995 File: 198 KB, 564x342, cantsholdallthesewitches.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14095937 >you telling me there was such a thing as Calliope drop on the last map? You tell me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 03:48:20 2015 No.14095998 File: 24 KB, 429x540, CO6ZZeXWEAAR0t0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Silver Bishop Sharon

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 03:49:34 2015 No.14096002 Also, this is 5th story missions expansion on DMM only this year, I believe. Meanwhile Nutaku is stuck with initial set.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 03:52:53 2015 No.14096009 >>14095987 White empire will probably be a trial event.

Anonymous Tue Sep 15 03:57:19 2015 No.14096024

>>14096009
I still think that empire will be next big story arc, as its the pattern we had with all countries introduced in events so far, and empire sounds too big for just few events.
Maybe we will have some events establishing casus belli and giving pretext for counter-attack and then story maps.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 04:12:36 2015 No.14096063 >>14096024 They give me serious Helman vibes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 04:14:20 2015 No.14096070 >>14096063 They looked more like Roman Empire to me, while Helman is kind of Russia.

Anonymous Tue Sep 15 05:04:30 2015 No.14096175
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Trying to decide who to use my Exp armours on, Odette is a given when I get some fairys but its the other I need to decide on.

Akane could replace Garrett if maxed out but got no soldiers to CC her.
Kerry was very good to me this last event so I'm leaning towards her.
Kinda want to level Betty too though.

I feel like I should level a black though however I'm so conflicted on them.
Anya is a cutie so I want to level her, Saki is used rarely so it wouldn't be too bad, Karma is a bitch so fuck leveling or using her.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 05:09:32 2015 No.14096186 >>14096175 You will be able to max out all of them before next event, so it doesn't matter.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 05:21:05 2015 No.14096215 >>14096186 >implying there will be a next event

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 05:23:08 2015 No.14096217 >>14096186 I'm sure getting all 57 exp armours will be easy, so long as the event doesn't come before next year I should be good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 05:53:12 2015 No.14096256 File: 14 KB, 156x149, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14096063 I dunno man. Seeing the magic swordsman made me think of Zeth and not Helman. >>14096175 There's only one answer. Pic related.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 05:57:20 2015 No.14096261 >>14095998 She's cute. What does a bishop do?

Anonymous Tue Sep 15 06:09:43 2015 No.14096290
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Dang, I wish I hadn't left the Odette event to the last second, I probably could've wrung a lot more out of it.
I was just a tad fed up of Aigis when it started, and I'm a terrible procrastinator.
I also thought it might be 2 weeks for some reason.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 06:12:31 2015 No.14096296 >>14096261 Bishops are mages by default, ranged magic AOE attack, but when skill is engaged, they become healers while skill lasts. >>14096256 You mean Kashis? I'm sure she's Magic City dweller, not imperian.

Anonymous Tue Sep 15 06:36:45 2015 No.14096339

Regarding bishops, am I missing some kind of downside? They are more powerful than regular mages of same rarity, and much more powerful than healers, and have better range than mages.
Shouldn't I just awaken my Noel and use her instead regular mages and healers?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 07:12:48 2015 No.14096395 >>14096339 They don't have mage or healer skills. Same reason why some people don't use Odette over other mages even if her raw stats are okay.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 07:15:11 2015 No.14096400 >>14096395 Most gold mages have that stupid "extended area" skill, which I never use anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 07:28:40 2015 No.14096430 >>14096400 You mean the one that increases AOE? Don't underestimate that skill. On some maps it would be OP as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 07:38:26 2015 No.14096447 File: 644 KB, 799x591, TAtjRZc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] New gacha rotation, first-time roll. I ain't even mad that none of them are SR+.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 09:21:45 2015 No.14096655 >>14095404 I made it to 10/16 and mincost, used 3 SCs on stamina sucks for you guys

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 09:43:14 2015 No.14096704 Why does literally everyone but me have a highly leveled Nina? Did they just give them to people for fucking free or something?

Anonymous Tue Sep 15 09:43:18 2015 No.14096705

>>14096655
With my luck thus far, the only reliable events are the ones that are farm, or require stars and missions clears.
Given after farming Dragon Hunting for an uncontested month, I imagine that's true for everyone now.

My Maribelle is 1/5 and maxcost for example.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 09:50:34 2015 No.14096721 >>14096704 I don't have a Nina and in my case, I was thinking "does everyone have a Candella besides me?"

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 09:51:06 2015 No.14096723 >>14096704 She's free if you start with the Dark deck, so yeah.

Anonymous Tue Sep 15 09:57:31 2015 No.14096737

>>14096723
I just want to know why EVERYONE chose the Dark Deck.
Also I love the people who decide they're going to take the full 90 seconds because they're butthurt at you for whatever reason. My latest match was because I took 20 seconds to think during my summoning phase so he decided he needed to drag his turns out as long as possible.
There should be a random counter where you just forfeit the duel if you take too long on too many consecutive turns. Random so the guy doesn't just say "Okay, four and then a normal turn."

Anonymous Tue Sep 15 10:01:23 2015 No.14096744

>>14096737
Because Natalie is a fucking amazing card.

>first tourney match
>matched with a 1270-some
>has every single card levelled to its current cap
>good draws are few and far between
>he completely demolishes me
>second match, 1240-some
>play defensively, actually starting to turn the match around
>get stuck on the exchange phase; picked a card but the game won't change phases even when the timer runs out
>forced to refresh
>it fails to reconnect due to an error, punts me back to the lobby screen
Fuck tournaments.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 10:09:36 2015 No.14096756 So is this Nutaku card game actually any good? I love card games and all but just about everything the past 10-15 years has sucked total dicks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 10:14:18 2015 No.14096763 >>14096756 I don't think this game is for you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 10:35:46 2015 No.14096810 File: 333 KB, 481x305, hhhahaha.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >all these people who don't actually understand how elemental binder cards work ahhhhahahaha

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 11:46:50 2015 No.14096976 File: 17 KB, 281x209, prince.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Prince looking a little like Rance in Patel's scene.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 11:48:45 2015 No.14096985 Guys what the fuck happened to Angelic Saga in DMM? I got 100k medal suddenly and I can roll 10 normal units for 200 points instead of 2k Am I being trolled or what?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 11:52:16 2015 No.14096998 >>14096985 Isn't it shutting down soon?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 11:56:53 2015 No.14097019 >>14096998 ... Oh shit, I didn't notice that in the news. Thanks to you saying that, I just realized the game news says that the game will end its service on 30 Sept 2015. Oh well, there goes one of my games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 12:28:27 2015 No.14097148 File: 237 KB, 575x387, 085796bd342cccf7bca546d55aa7b343.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is my team a shit for starting 2 days ago?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 12:33:23 2015 No.14097153 >>14097148 Yeah.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 12:39:20 2015 No.14097165 >>14097148 Its not that bad, though I would replace 1 Leanne with like a witch so you have 2. Level wise they are low but since its only been two days and depending on how long you play its not the worse it could be.

Anonymous Tue Sep 15 12:51:49 2015 No.14097203

>>14097148
You want to get rid of a heavy armour Leeane for a witch, drop one of the Daniellas for the Soma with affection (very important to raise archer affection first). Other than that, you're good.

You might want to raise Themis up early since as a Princess she needs no CC and gets big stat boosts.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 13:17:50 2015 No.14097287 I wonder how long we'll wait for the next event, now that Odette is over

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 13:19:27 2015 No.14097292 >>14097287 Two months.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 13:21:38 2015 No.14097299 >>14097148 Don't bother with silver rogue, you will get platinum one as levelup bonus soon, and she is much better due to low initial skill time and very decent stats.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 13:28:00 2015 No.14097320 >>14097299 Not him, but DMM Aigis has taught me that having two rogues is never a bad thing since it gave me Betty on my first premium summon there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 13:34:03 2015 No.14097337 >>14096976 He fucks every girl in his army, he's got a lot in common with Rance.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 13:44:53 2015 No.14097354 >>14097320 DMM has fluffy nekomimi Eida, no need to bother with silvers too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 14:03:32 2015 No.14097393 >>14097354 I wonder if I can make a full nekomimi/kemonomimi unit. On DMM I already have Bashira, Nenya, and that silver fox-eared valkyrie chick.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 14:35:40 2015 No.14097482 File: 1.60 MB, 1235x829, FUCK WAR OF MAGIC IN THE ARSE.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 14:40:18 2015 No.14097496 >>14096447 I'd have preferred your roll. I got 2 SR but one is Solene (my 3rd) who doesn't fit my deck strategy. The 2 HR I got were Decree and Chain Reaction... Oh well, one week (assuming no hiccups) until the next attempt.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 15:06:19 2015 No.14097573 >>14097393 Good luck getting the fox girls.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 15:09:02 2015 No.14097589 File: 1.61 MB, 1246x824, War of magic a shit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I didn't realize challenge quests gave a little unit space too, do you get more for beating 40, 45 and 50 challenge quests?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 15:16:30 2015 No.14097625 >>14096998 >>14097019 Does that mean Nutaku Angelic Saga is dead in the water? RIP

>>	Kuremisago Tue Sep 15 15:22:04 2015 No.14097645 >>14097625 According to their twitter, no. https://twitter.com/nutakugames/status/641256380003913728

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 15:32:46 2015 No.14097674 >>14097625 Nutaku AS and DMM AS are separate entities. The devs are actually turning their focus to international market.

Anonymous Tue Sep 15 17:27:33 2015 No.14097850

>>14097625

I love playing an on-curve, face-down Okita (1510 atk) and the opponent plays Framboise next turn. I also love when opponent plays trap on turn 1 (2 mana), I put down Emily and they don't have anything on turn 2.

Anyway, just had a tournament match where Anne wrecked me. Maxed Anne (1900) + 2 Books = "I hope you have some removal spell. I'm keeping her protected with traps."

It went on quite a long time after that, but I could not recover. Almost did after I decree'd super Anne then revealed my 3rd 2001 Sakura, but I ate a decree back and my board was wiped.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 17:43:20 2015 No.14097904 Can someone share opinions on the upcoming Osawari game? Is it worth the time?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 18:28:58 2015 No.14098026 >>14097904 Try it for yourself and decide. We can't decide that for you. Try it on DMM if you want to know right now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 18:34:30 2015 No.14098039 >>14097904 It's decent imo, time consuming though since Auto-Battle costs items to do.

Anonymous Tue Sep 15 19:16:01 2015 No.14098148

It is weird to me that I actually want to lower my result table to 2-5k place on PeroPero due to the fact that I got enough 5 sr wild cards from this event to max an event SR when the elite guard event comes around in which I am going to cash in 2 event gatchas; but I want the 30 R wild cards reward just in case I don't get lucky because it is harder to level rares then super rares.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 19:44:05 2015 No.14098223 File: 228 KB, 560x382, 412ddc4ed1575671675e5249cf3eb4aa.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14097165 >>14097203 >>14097203 >>14097299 So i replaced them but i can't seem to get past Remnant vanquish 2 and tomb of sorrow any ideas?

Anonymous Tue Sep 15 19:48:58 2015 No.14098247

>>14098223
> any ideas
Watch 3* silver-only videos on youtube and follow their strategy. Many maps on low level require very precise unit placement/withdrawal times.
Also, don't expect to steamroll through story missions without grinding. You need at least CCed Archer and Healer to get to Dragon Hunting.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbIvmyrcftD5TDCRrOW1kXg — this guy's videos are good idea what your most minimal teams should look like for story maps.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 19:49:27 2015 No.14098250 >>14098223 Farm tower overwatch/ the royal road if you don't have. Farm it for more units to combine with yours to lvl them up more. Getting more lvls will help you out. Also if you haven't look up vids to help with positioning.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 19:54:53 2015 No.14098275 >>14098247 Alright i guess ill farm certain maps to get my archer/healer cc'd >>14098250 I barely managed to pass royal road with 3 stars i was quite lucky so dunno if i want to keep at it

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 19:56:17 2015 No.14098281 >>14098275 If you can do it some more and then use the units to level up the key units to make it easier it would go faster.

Anonymous Tue Sep 15 19:59:17 2015 No.14098289

>>14098275
Huh, royal road is easiest map at that level. Everything past it is 3-4 times harder.

You just don't engage in melee there at all. Put Kate at heart mark at bottom, prince next to her (don't forget to use skill boosting title) teams of 1 mage, 1 witch and 1 healer at top right and bottom left corners, and fill rest of ranged spots with archers. When mages placed, retreat kate to place one more ranged unit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 23:18:47 2015 No.14098903 new thread >>14098900

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