Higanbana no Saku Yoru ni

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Higanbana no Saku Yoru ni Anonymous Mon Jul 13 12:48:06 2015 No.13767533 [Reply] [Original]

What do you guys think about Higanbana? Personally, it felt like Ryukishi07 didn't know the subject at hand or he very poorly researched it. The stories were either meh or average at best, with the first three in the first night being the only good ones. That said, I just finished reading the first night, so what does the second night lie in store for me? I've heard it's not as good.

Also, attempted rape much in the final chapter. All boys try to strip our MC and nobody does a thing. Not even teachers walking by notice or anyone hearing the racket from outside the class. Felt like something straight from a hentai if you ask me. Furthermore, it doesn't even mention anything about what happens to the bullies after they do that. Poor writing or just genius? I mean, you'd get expelled after trying something like that. Even worse, the VN itself only states that a teacher helps her to the infirmary, not WTF you're half naked who did this?

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 13:41:37 2015 No.13767699

>Personally, it felt like Ryukishi07 didn't know the subject at hand or he very poorly researched it.
Personally, as a victim of harassment at school and having gone through some of the situations described, it's totally the opposite. It's incredibly on point on all the psychological parts of it, in fact he was either a victim too or he is a genius. I can relate to a lot of stuff in it. The actual physical details don't matter much, and you wouldn't believe what people get out with in real life.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:14:00 2015 No.13767792 >>13767699 So you were raped by your teacher, stripped by a bunch of boys, and killed small animals? Okay, got ya.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:16:27 2015 No.13767800
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I thought it was p good. I still haven't gotten around to read the second one yet.

>>13767792
>/jp/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:25:23 2015 No.13767837 Bullying is literally in all three of Ryukishi's works. There's no way he doesn't know about the subject.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 14:36:31 2015 No.13767876

>>13767533
>>13767699

It's true. Hundreds of bullying cases happen every day, ranging from minuscule incidents to some stories you'll find hard to wrap your head around. But remember, there are only stories because they've came to light. If no one finds out about them, the incident lives on as a untold story, and the bullies get away scot free.

And as to why the teacher probably didn't asked Yukari why she was half naked. In reality, there are schools, along with the teachers, who'll turn a blind eye and won't acknowledge bullying because they think it'll make the school look bad. Nowadays, this doesn't happen as much but back in the day, before the anti-bullying movement, it happened quite a lot. Even my past bullying experience fall in this category.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 15:51:41 2015 No.13768142 >>13767876 Excuses excuses. >>13767953 Realistic dialogue galore.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 19:44:20 2015 No.13768871 Bump. More thoughts please.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 19:51:51 2015 No.13768908 >>13767699 He wasn't a victim, he was a social worker at one point and most of the aspects of Higanbana came from the people he was exposed to during that time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 19:53:17 2015 No.13768911 shitpost thread? shitpost thread

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 21:07:50 2015 No.13769180 How does the manga of this fare? Is it any good? Better or for worse? >>13768911 Because negative is always shitposting. Nice headcannon you have there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 21:10:54 2015 No.13769191 >>13769180 >headcannon Nice spelling sperglord.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 07:48:24 2015 No.13771662 >>13769191 Want to actually talk about the topic at hand instead of shitting in the thread?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 08:49:34 2015 No.13771791 File: 348 KB, 1456x1042, 11.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Okay, what age is Marie meant to be again? She looks like she's 10 in the manga, but more like 14+ in the VN. Thoughts? Also, real classy R07.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 14:36:08 2015 No.13772843 Bump. Is discussion and interest for this dead or something? I thought there'd be more posts.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 15:09:44 2015 No.13772987 File: 397 KB, 603x900, 32515200_big_p12.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13772843 Yes, that's how it is. Higanbana and Rose Guns Days are underrated as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 17:02:25 2015 No.13773349 >>13771791 I'd rape marie, too. But gently and lovingly. And then violently.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 19:35:39 2015 No.13774043 >>13772987 Oh. That really sucks. >>13773349 ...Kill yourself.

Anonymous Wed Jul 15 07:20:43 2015 No.13776373

>>13767533
The last story of the first night is particularly developed. It describes accurately the feelings of a witness of bullying.

Otherwise, in my opinion, the first three stories of the second night are better than some chapters of the first VN. You should really read it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 15 07:38:05 2015 No.13776391 kusothread

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 15 19:45:56 2015 No.13779196 >>13776391 Are wa?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 09:50:56 2015 No.13782026 >>13767533 The thing you have to understand is that bullying in Japan is a different beast from bullying in America.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 10:02:37 2015 No.13782069 >>13782026 How so?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 10:37:30 2015 No.13782186 >>13771791 Well she's wearing an elementary school backpack so must be 10. >>13767533 >Felt like something straight from a hentai Should have been. Why doesn't this company make ero games anyway?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 10:42:11 2015 No.13782203 >>13782186 Hopefully soon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 10:59:11 2015 No.13782244 File: 709 KB, 1191x707, a9b4fac545dad0508084d1fdfdb37e39.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13767533 >Dark edgy shit I'd rather have my fix of urban legends in that new 2hu game

Anonymous Thu Jul 16 11:04:38 2015 No.13782258

>>13782069
Much more intense and much more of an issue. There are posters about preventing bullying up around all the schools and schools have to start up anti-bullying initiatives because it's a big problem. I didn't witness bullying happen to a kid while I worked at a school myself, but I've read novels (not light novels, real ones) that depict bullying in essentially the same way Ryukishi does. Right down to boys stripping a girl together and feeling her up.

Anonymous Thu Jul 16 16:08:15 2015 No.13783450

Please excuse me for posting off topic, but there's no other proper Visual Novel thread, and the other ones look like request threads.
Which 07 game do I start with if I've never played any before? I kind of like the sound of the Golden Witch ones (Locked room mystery) but theres so many and I'm confused.

Also, is there a place where I can download an album containing songs such as these?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM-Stt5Yq6o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXv-h5WIMms

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 16:09:02 2015 No.13783455 >>13783450 Fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 16:14:08 2015 No.13783474 >>13783450 Google and nyaa are your friends.

Anonymous Thu Jul 16 16:23:08 2015 No.13783498

>>13783450
Start at his beginnings and work your way up. Higurashi should be your first stop.

>>13782186
Though it doesn't seem like she's that age in the VN. I'm thinking that R07 got shit for doing that in the manga (and showing it as if it's fanservice) so he removed it when it came to the VN.

>>13782258
Novels? You do know that's probably just the writer's fucking about fantasizing, don't you? Try real life for once. Fiction is the worst example you could give.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 16:46:56 2015 No.13783572 Not only /jp/ is getting flooded with offtopic and generals, now people are also against discussion of visual novels Why didn't you kill 4chan for good mootles

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 16:56:24 2015 No.13783608 >>13783572 I'm not against VN discussion. I'm against retards who can't think for themselves.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 16:59:21 2015 No.13783620 >>13783608 OP just asked for opinions, there's no reason to post shit like this >>13776391 >>13768911

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 17:01:36 2015 No.13783631 >>13783620 Oh, I thought you were referring to >>13783450 Then yes, I totally agree with you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 18:18:10 2015 No.13783880 >>13783498 >ignores the entire first part of the post Alrighty, bro.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 04:26:42 2015 No.13786591 File: 252 KB, 1000x1414, Black Tea Gentleman and Midori.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So what was everyone's favorite story in Higanbana?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 07:09:19 2015 No.13787192 >>13786591 Easily the Midori one. Most of the rest are either mediocre or shit. Also, shotacon in the second night? Because that's totally realistic. Stupid R07.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 17:40:08 2015 No.13788907 >>13771791 Foot in the urinal? Someone explain.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 17:58:23 2015 No.13788961 >>13787192 >Because that's totally realistic What do you mean? This sort of thing makes the news a fair bit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 19:47:10 2015 No.13789432 >>13788961 Where? The kingdom of service? Idiot. Pedofile female teachers are mostly just a male fantasy and in hentai. Go out your fucking door for once.

Anonymous Fri Jul 17 21:17:08 2015 No.13789787

Ugh! Does R07 just feel the need to try and teach us meanings with his stories? It's fucking annoying. Hurk hurk, if a friend dies, just move on with your life, okay? Well, duh, you fucking retard. But no, he feels to need to involve supernatural spirits even though those type of stories should be done in terms of reality, not space magic allows you to get closure and move on with your life.

Anonymous Fri Jul 17 21:38:06 2015 No.13789877

>>13789432
Eh? I hear about more female teacher grooming than male. Here are a couple recent ones I remember:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/anne-lakey-predatory-headteacher-jailed-5941752
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11403356/Female-teacher-jailed-for-inciting-schoolgirl-to-carry-out-a-sex-act.html

Anonymous Fri Jul 17 21:45:56 2015 No.13789922

>>13789787
>even though those type of stories should be done in terms of reality
But he uses supernatural elements to convey the importance of accepting the reality of the situation. Did you actually read it, or is your unconditional hatred of R07 making your memory hazy?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 22:08:06 2015 No.13790009 Ryu07 ruined my life.

Anonymous Sat Jul 18 07:23:39 2015 No.13791913

>>13789922
Even so, can't he just tell a story like a normal writer? I'm sure the same story could be told in a realistic scenario which could actually apply to those reading it. Because yokai won't appear to you in real life and work as a medium to fix your problems, you know.

>>13789877
1980's, buddy, and that's not as widespread as you may think. Then again, R07 is Japanese and writing an otaku doujin game. He knows what he's doing. The same goes for everything he makes. Also, how the fuck does bullying fit into all this? Oh wait, it doesn't.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 18 08:43:05 2015 No.13792191 How come the manga isn't fully scanlated? Is it still in the process of being done or have people gave up? Also, how does the manga versions of the stories fare?

Anonymous Sat Jul 18 08:43:35 2015 No.13792193

>>13791913
Alright, I'm pretty sure you're baiting now. But the 'point' is that the stories teach/tell the reader something about life. The stories usually use Youkai to represent that exists in the real world.
You can't have seriously come out of the shinigami story and thought ' Damn, that was pretty stupid. Real children won't get chased by one of those things, so Ryukishi has just wasted everyone's time and not offered a genuine solution to the problem.'

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 18 09:31:36 2015 No.13792332 Ryu07 ruined my wife.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 18 12:45:11 2015 No.13792939 >>13768908 Source? Haven't read/watched his entire interviews.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 19 07:33:45 2015 No.13796500 >>13792939 Anyone know what those interviews even detail? I can't be bothered to watch them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 19 19:30:34 2015 No.13799056 File: 110 KB, 592x447, 129-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Yo, questions about the manga still need answering. Is it any good? How come it's not fully scanlated? Thoughts?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 20 07:25:37 2015 No.13801143 Bump. I would never have thought interest was this dead.

Anonymous Mon Jul 20 09:11:46 2015 No.13801368

>>13801143
There's not an awful lot to say about it.
It's a generally pretty solid vn and we've all enjoyed it already.
If you want people to talk about it, how about asking a question instead of complaining about the lack of interest (which isn't really true).

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 20 14:41:38 2015 No.13802342 >>13801368 Didn't you read the post above mine to see a question about the manga?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 20 15:18:36 2015 No.13802492 >>13802342 I wish I could answer that question.

Anonymous Mon Jul 20 19:08:37 2015 No.13803515

>>13802342
The manga has its ups and downs. It's really dark, rarely glimmer of happiness like what you'd see in previous 07th Expansion manga adaptations. I personally prefer the VN. Anyhow, Ichirō Tsunohazu, the manga artist, passed back in November, 2013. So, technically, the manga unfinished or on hold, I guess. As for the manga not being fully translated, no one seems interested enough to translate the rest of the released chapters.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 20 19:44:54 2015 No.13803644 File: 9 KB, 167x160, 1435274506155-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13803515 Thanks for the info. Have a pigman.

Anonymous Tue Jul 21 12:18:40 2015 No.13806857
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Finished reading the 2nd Night. It was good. Don't know why people say it wasn't as good as the first. Also, the manga starts off really weird. Was this necessary? Just feels like R07 and his loli fetish at work. Where's that Rose Guns Days pic when I need it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 12:27:50 2015 No.13806893 >>13806857 What Rose Guns Days pic?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 14:08:24 2015 No.13807284 >>13806893 The one where it says, "you guys and your loli obsessions".

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 16:07:27 2015 No.13807724 File: 600 KB, 640x480, Loli.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13807284

Anonymous Tue Jul 21 17:13:45 2015 No.13807957
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>>13786591
My memory is a little fuzzy on all the stories, but I remember liking the one with Yuuki. The art room, the youkai 'living' ther and the ending with Ascending and Descending was pretty nice imo. Well, oofc I liked the Midori one too.

Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:48:55 2015 No.13808397
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>>13807724
Ha ha, thanks for that. Have a smug monster.

>>13807957
Yeah, that story was good apart from the whole shotacon thing. Now all we need is a you guys and your shota obsessions pic.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 19:50:04 2015 No.13808399 I am still bummed that Kyou didn't get a proper story in Higanbana. That's one of the reasons we need a 3rd Night.

Anonymous Tue Jul 21 20:02:03 2015 No.13808430
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>>13808399
Me, too. We more or less got nothing with him. Though a third was probably never made due to sales, I guess. Also, no, just no, R07. Eww. Why does a calendar and single Higanbana doujinshi exist? And it's Midori and the Black Tea Gentlemen!

Anonymous Tue Jul 21 20:07:41 2015 No.13808441

>>13808430
>Though a third was probably never made due to sales
R07 has previously stated that he was very pleasantly surprised with the sales.
And at one of the cons MG took him to a relevant question was asked to him:
Q: Is it possible that he’ll make a continuation of Higanbana no Saku Yoru Ni, or does he consider the story finished?
A: First of all, he said he was glad that someone in Chicago had been able to read and enjoy Higanbana. He has a lot more ideas to work on the series, and he’d love to continue it or write a similar work.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 22:27:21 2015 No.13808857 >>13808441 I asked that question, BTW. That was lots of fun. I'm just slightly disappointed because I'm from Boston (represent) and had just flown-in to Chicago.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 08:43:43 2015 No.13810547 >>13808441 Oh. Though it says something like see you next year at the end of the second night, so did he plan another game or what? Also, doujin why?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 20:39:27 2015 No.13812916 File: 126 KB, 728x1040, 15.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Seriously? I mean, wow. Just wow. Bravo, R07.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 08:08:52 2015 No.13815152 File: 227 KB, 728x1063, 14.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Was this necessary? Hmm?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 08:22:26 2015 No.13815179 >>13815152 Is anything really necessary?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 19:42:13 2015 No.13817470 File: 53 KB, 386x363, 24 (2).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13815179 Questioning your own existence, anon?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 20:46:59 2015 No.13817669 >>13817470 Cute doll.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 00:56:43 2015 No.13818415 File: 283 KB, 1000x1412, Have fun pupper.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13815152 I'd like to play with Midori, if you know what I mean.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 07:18:30 2015 No.13819514 File: 206 KB, 728x1068, 17.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] More like Black Pedo Gentlemen. Why? >>13818415 That wasn't even Midori, sicko.

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