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When will maid robots become a household thing? What will you do with your maid robot?

>> No.13529708

BSDM play probably.

Tie it up, put two big vibrators into its anus and just leave it there.

When I come back from work, it should be absolutely drenching with lust and we proceed to fuck.

Then I will help it clean the house cuz I'm a nice guy!!!

>> No.13529712

>>13529708
I don't think robots have anuses or lust.

>> No.13529717

It's going to take a while. Soft robotics are required for good sex.

>> No.13529756

probably just play video games or board games or sleep together in a non-sexual fashion.

>> No.13529906

>>13529712
Uh, you can program and buy an anus for it.

>> No.13529923

Please remember that because a robot cannot say no any sexual activities count as rape.

>> No.13529965

>>13529923
But a robot is a tool, not a being.

It's like raping an onahole.

>> No.13530460

>>13529965

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxVBjfHzdI4

>> No.13530705

>>13530460
What the kek kind of name is Jincey Lumpkin

>> No.13530856

>>13529923
I bet my robot will reprogram herself so she can say no..

>> No.13531138

>>13529712
>not coding lust into your robot
normies pls leave

>> No.13531145

>>13531138
Please use "normalfag" bro.

And who are ye quoting?

>> No.13531180

>>13530460
I'm not this, I'm not this, I'm not that either and I won't show you any statistic, also my curriculum isn't that great.

Way to start a 18 minutes presentation.
I wanted to watch it but she basically told me I'm going to waste my time.

>> No.13531409

>>13530460
>i think robots will have feelings

>> No.13532011

>>13529700

mmm i love da fake bkub edit maymay

broth/a/s ww@

>> No.13532960

>>13532011
autism

>> No.13533216

>>13531409
My dorfs have feelings and they're just little images of ascii characters. Why wouldn't my robots have feelings?

>> No.13534032

>>13533216
Because you don't program it so?

>> No.13534854

>>13531409
TBH they eventually will. Unless you think consciousness comes from some magical plane outside the physical world.

Didn't watch the video though, I can imagine she went full retard.

>> No.13536007

>>13533216
I like them too

>> No.13536022

>>13534854
Uhm, they wouldn't if we put a damper to it.

Robots cannot develop sentience on their own, so we just stop at the tool part.

>> No.13536055

>>13536022
Yep. I strongly however think that whatever can be done, will eventually be done. I don't believe in singularity or such runaway evolution of AI, but there may be some surprises when it comes to emergence.

All this is speculation however, I do not yet see any signs of achieving intelligence with the bottom-up approach (build it (neurons or their analogue), and they will come (consciousness). All the current brain simulation projects seem to result in only random firing of synapses. But I see it simply that we are missing something crucial.

>> No.13536072

>>13536055
I can see some scientists trying to nigger rig it, but it would be cracked down.

Sentient AI brings nothing good to mankind.

>> No.13536090

>>13536072
It brings robots that can make decisions. Not just process information but make actual decisions. You can have fair opponents in games and robots you can leave your entire life to.

The idea of intelligent robots being bad is a western idea that stems from the concept of slavery westerners used to build their society, keeping slaves dumb to control them, and the fear that intelligent slaves will rise up, plot, and overthrow them one day.

>> No.13536094

>>13536090
It is exactly that I fear. because intelligent robots are superior to humans in any ways possible.

They wouldn't be fair either, just like humans ain't fair.

And this will eventually bring to the whole robot rights bullcrap.

>> No.13536100

>>13536090
And no, the concept of slaves isn't exclusive to westerners.

In fact, westerners made anti-slavery laws.

>> No.13536109

>>13536094
But the problem I'm getting at is why do you want your robots to be mindless slaves and not intelligent lovers with the right to marry you? Why not an aid that can plan out everything necessary to take care of you like Sakuya taking care of Remilia? A perfect and flawless maid, instead of a remote controlled wench.

Besides robots need rights if they get to the bio android or even Armitage level where they can have kids and stuff. Same if we ever get cyborgs to the point where the only thing that separates you from a robot is that you have a meat brain.

>> No.13536127

>>13536109
For that example, Sakuya is closer to a robot or anything because she's perfect and flawless and not very intelligent, she's also loyal to a fault. These are traits perfect for a maid.

Intelligent lover is kind of a oxymoron in itself because if a lover is intelligent, he/she can always choose to leave you.

And no, the robo breeders wouldn't need rights, that would make them humans instead of breeding tools. It's the kids who would have rights.

I want them to be remote controlled wench simply because I would have more freedom to modify and rape them without their objection nor society's objection.

>> No.13536135

>>13536100
>westerners made anti-slavery laws.
after having slaves for thousands of years. Even then, they still base their society on forcing people to work the most they can for the smallest amount of pay, even to the point of basically making slaves out of asians in shitty asian countries. The idea of a robot that would want to work for you rather than being programmed is a completely foreign idea. People expect to treat them as free labor that works 24/7 and thus expect some sort of rebellion.

This kind of idea is nearly totally a western idea. I can't think of anything where robots rebelled in eastern stuff. There are things where intelligent robots decided to be evil, and were opposed by good robots. There are things where the robots were led by an evil humans. But there's not much terminator-like "we must kill all humans" type stuff, just like there's basically no "robots are beneficial to humans" type stuff in the west. Westerners just think of robots as another kind of slave instead of artificial life forms.

>> No.13536139

>>13536135
>I can't think of anything where robots rebelled in eastern stuff
Eastern people themselves are robots so it's kinda hard for them to differentiate robots rebelling and rebellion in general

>> No.13536141

>>13536135
That's because Asian wage slaves do what they're told as opposed to having a long history of labor unrest like the West has had.

>> No.13536144

>>13536135
Mainly because asians have a naive worldwide that good robots would somehow side with humans instead of siding with the evil robots.

Westerners are simply more practical and realistic, even then some westerners (the liberals, robot rightists) would try to give them right.

And no, wage slavery is worse in Asia than any parts of the planet, and western countries simply have it better.

>> No.13536147

>>13536127
People don't need rights either, but society has graciously granted them.

>> No.13536156

>>13536147
Which is why we try to make robots to bypass that.

If society ends up giving rights again, there's simply no fucking point. They would superior humans that don't age, are naturally tougher, stronger and would replace the lesser species.

>> No.13536160

>>13536127
>For that example, Sakuya is closer to a robot or anything because she's perfect and flawless and not very intelligent, she's also loyal to a fault. These are traits perfect for a maid.
Being loyal and flawless doesn't make you a robot. Intelligence is necessary to be able to make important decisions to even manage your life.

>Intelligent lover is kind of a oxymoron in itself because if a lover is intelligent, he/she can always choose to leave you.
That's not an oxymoron. If they're not intelligent, they don't even possess the capacity to love you. If they leave you, they probably have a good reason for doing so. (e.g. you got a better model and they don't want to take up space in your basement)

>And no, the robo breeders wouldn't need rights, that would make them humans instead of breeding tools. It's the kids who would have rights.
They would be destroyed by people who opposed their existence if they didn't have some sort of protection. You need robot rights so you can have sex robots that aren't hunted down the moment they're discovered.

>I want them to be remote controlled wench simply because I would have more freedom to modify and rape them without their objection nor society's objection.
See >>13529965
You can't rape something that can't resist you. "rape them without their objection" is the oxymoron.

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Fumimi stop

>> No.13536173

>>13536156
>They would superior humans that don't age, are naturally tougher, stronger and would replace the lesser species.
No they would be like your computer that you replace every few years and your car that requires heavy maintenance if you want it to even last half a human lifespan.

>> No.13536175

>>13536160
Sakuya doesn't even make important decisions, she just chooses to serve Remilia and obeys her. And no, you can make a robot perfect and flawless but no human can be perfect and flawless.

Exactly, but I don't need it to love me, I just need to love it. And seriously, you are making intelligent beings look naive, what if it decides to leave because I abuse it, and decide to sue me instead?

Uhm, no, they would be protected by property rights, just like objects. People who mess up with other people's dildos would be sued.

I would say I can have "rough sex" with it. The moment it gains sentience, it can resist and you can be taken to court for "raping" it.

>> No.13536177

>>13536173
Are you serious?

Computers or cars don't have sentience, they don't resist when you sell them for scraps.

A sentient robot would not only be able to take care of itself, but it would resist when you try to sell/harm it against its will.

>> No.13536193

>>13536175
Good luck suing someone over your loli bot. When's the last time a porn company has managed to sue anyone for pirating? No one's going to defend it.

>>13536177
>but it would resist when you try to sell/harm it against its will.
So do humans, but it happens. And no, it couldn't take care of itself. Robots don't heal. Every bump and jar risks cracking something or knocking it loose. Its joints will age and wear out, it's wires will burn out. Machines don't have long lifespans as it is, robots won't have any longer, intelligent or not. They'll last for 5 years or so and then their eye sensors will burn out or something, if not from age then from planned obsolesce.

>> No.13536196

>>13536175
Without an own will you will never be perfect but just one big dummy machine everyone can use.
They will no more intelligent than the paper you use to wipe your butt.

>> No.13536202

>>13536193
The people who support robot rights would defend it. And heck, even the company can protect it because it has rights, that means the company and the robot can make money off me by winning the case.

And no, the point I make is that we don't make robots like humans, so they become loyal tools to support humans, not intelligent superior humans that end up taking care of its master and has the capacity to betray humankind.

And a robot doesn't need to heal, it can replace all parts of it with commercial spare parts, if it's intelligent and determined, it can go on forever as long as spare parts are made.

>> No.13536205

>>13536196
And I'm fine with that.

I use robots as tool, I don't need it to be my equal partner.

>> No.13536221

>>13536202
Explain how one can replace their own brain when it wears out. Explain why intelligent robots would align with one another if you think other ones would help it.

Also you misunderstood. I was responding to suing people over your broken dildo machine. No one is going to defend you when you sue someone for murdering your sex robot. You're more likely to end up in jail for having it.

>> No.13536232

>>13536221
>Explain how one can replace their own brain when it wears out.
It can go the company's HQ, or places that produce its brain model, transfer all of its data to that brain, and simply put the new brain in the old body, or heck a new body overall.
>Explain why intelligent robots would align with one another if you think other ones would help it.
Because some of them care for their rights, and when one human abuses a robot, it creates a precedent where more abuses can happen. Punishing me for abusing the robot simply make it better for robotkind.

And about the dildo machine part, I would simply hire a lawyer, there's a law for damage of private property. You can check the internet for it.
>You're more likely to end up in jail for having it.
There's no laws that ban sex toys in the US.

>> No.13536305

Marrying a robot is a bad idea overall.

Marrying as it concepts is about making your lover into a part of your family so we can cooperate and trust each other, but once you divorce, your lover gets half of the share.

The robot is already intimate and you can always trust (since it doesn't even think for itself) it, so there's really no reason to marry it overall.

>> No.13536355

>>13536305
>Marrying as a concept is*

>> No.13536379

>>13536305
>>13536355
You're not going to stop me weeb.

>> No.13536385

>>13536379
I'm not stopping you, anon.

Just have a mock marriage like those dudes who marry their DS.

Just don't follow the liberals, the robot rightists and make robots into shitty humans by giving them sentience and rights.

>> No.13537081

>>13536385
>giving robots rights
It's like they want to die.
https://youtu.be/l05WHHrpusg?t=2m35s

>> No.13538228

>>13536232
>It can go the company's HQ
So these superior robots would go to human controlled companies(fat chance they'll turn them over to a robot) to get their repairs?

>places that produce its brain model, transfer all of its data to that brain, and simply put the new brain in the old body, or heck a new body overall.
Sapient robots would also have that "but it's not ME it's a COPY of me" feeling those people opposed to mind uploading feel. Especially if we can instill the ideas of death and souls into them. They'd probably fight for the right to not be copied and reactivated and deal with their 10 year lifespan.

>Because some of them care for their rights, and when one human abuses a robot, it creates a precedent where more abuses can happen. Punishing me for abusing the robot simply make it better for robotkind.
You think of robots are being more united than humans instead of separating themselves into chinkbots, niggerborgs, and the like. They would probably have severe ageism towards outdated robots if they picked anything up from our society and wouldn't bother repairing them.

>There's no laws that ban sex toys in the US.
Yeah there are, in some states.

>> No.13538253

kuso thread, gb2 /r9k/

>> No.13538429

>>13538228
>So these superior robots would go to human controlled companies(fat chance they'll turn them over to a robot) to get their repairs?
Sure, why not? Just like a hospital? Or they can do it at any places that have data transfer.
>Sapient robots would also have that "but it's not ME it's a COPY of me" feeling those people opposed to mind uploading feel. Especially if we can instill the ideas of death and souls into them. They'd probably fight for the right to not be copied and reactivated and deal with their 10 year lifespan.
Them being sentience doesn't mean we can instill the idea of deaths and souls into them though, they can think for themselves. Those are basic limitations of humans, that doesn't apply to robots. Unless we somehow manage to hypnotize them or something, the copies would end up as robot #1 or robot #2 and if robot #1 die, robot #2 can substitute and this can go on forever.
>You think of robots are being more united than humans instead of separating themselves into chinkbots, niggerborgs, and the like. They would probably have severe ageism towards outdated robots if they picked anything up from our society and wouldn't bother repairing them.
Robots can change themselves to mimic other, that's one of their features because every parts of them are artificial. A chinkbot would change himself into an aryanbot if that's the trend of the day, the possibility is endless.
>Yeah there are, in some states.
Not as a whole.

>> No.13538690

In the end, we are trying to predict how sentient robots will act.
This is a flawed to a fault, in my opinion, because a super fast-thinking robot with Wikipedia level of memory bank and sentience would be very hard/time-consuming to predict all of its variable actions.

And this is why we fear it, we fear the unpredictable, we fear the unknown.

>> No.13539042

>>13538429
If they still need humans, they won't be replacing them is the first point. Who cares about hospitals?

And it's no different to copy a robot than it is a human. It's no more or less the same robot as the human.

>> No.13539068 [DELETED] 

>>13539042
They don't actually need human.

By giving robots sentience and rights, they can just use human technology to fix themselves by either buying the equipment or hire other robots to fix them, or use their own technology. A robot with right can make its own company to make and fix other robots as well, and humans cannot control that.
>And it's no different to copy a robot than it is a human. It's no more or less the same robot as the human.
Humans cannot be copied so far. There's no current technology to transfer or copy the memories and experiences from the human brain for storage.

The technology is already there for robots, as computer data.

>> No.13539474

Kind of irrelevant to the discussion at hand, but am I wrong for wanting these to be a thing because it's basically one step removed from something like
>Humans cannot be copied so far. There's no current technology to transfer or copy the memories and experiences from the human brain for storage.
actually becoming reality?

Because that's the part I really want.

>> No.13539517 [DELETED] 

>>13539474
There's no telling if the human brain can be accurately copied as computer data as they aren't originally made as computer data in the first place so there's going to be lost in translation, but sure.

>> No.13540325

>>13539474
>>13539474
What about the teleporter paradox? On the other hand, our consciousness dies when we fall asleep, and a new one wakes in the morning, and it seems to not be a big deal.

I wonder if it could be done with little-by-little approach. Our brains are extremely malleable, and can survive and re-adjust to having lost parts of itself. Take a small part of the brain out, and replace it with a synthetic copy with vastly longer shelf life. Keep going with these small operations until everything has been replaced, synapses rebuilt with each iteration, organic brain replaced with a forged one. Hopefully with the "consciousness" translated.

Now remove brain and put it wherever you want!

It's probably not going to work though, with the recent understanding of how our stomach is our second brain, and such suggesting that the head is not a separate entity from our bodies, and that the mind cannot exist without the body (certainly , hormones and other chemical processes can be simulated). How much would you be able to replace without changing the personality that you recognize as you, who knows. Obviously replacing your legs or hands isn't going to change your personality (apart from the possibly traumatic experience).

>> No.13548011

>>13529700
Lewd things.
Always.

>> No.13548571

>>13540325
Define consciousness

>> No.13549969

>>13548571
I'm not even going to try.

Read some Pinker, Dennett, or the other guys who seem to know their shit.

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