/jp/ - Otaku Culture

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Discuss

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place flying touhous in the room and you got it

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hi

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>>13316211
hello

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Surround the box with stupidity, noise and obnoxious people.

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>>13316231
Also put the same thing inside the box but time time the people are wearing silly hats.

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But you don't choose to be an autist...

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Can you say that again?
I couldn't hear you over the sound of me shitting myself

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>>13316206
i wish i had a house but i am also atheist

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Programming makes lots of money nowadays

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>>13318792
Is this how 2hus come to the real world?

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God is overrated, anyways.

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>>13318959
God is irrelevant.

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>>13318959
>>13319466
Watch the edges.

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>>13318959
>>13319466

Oh boy

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I hope God exists.

I'm not really religious but it feels wrong not to believe in him.

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>>13319668
I have always thought that since the universe is so large and old, something sentient at least as old should exist. To assume otherwise feels ignorant, perhaps even a bit pompous.

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>>13319694
>To assume otherwise feels ignorant, perhaps even a bit pompous.
Why?

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>>13319668
Nothing wrong with wishful thinking. It's easy to see why believing in supernatural was an evolutionary advantage.

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>>13319562
>>13319536
Why do you defend God? If I were to put my faith in something, it would at least be in something I know is real.

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>>13319927
Certainty does not bring faith. You may be confused with the term.

The moment a god or whatever walks in front of you, you no longer believe. You know.

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Discuss.

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>>13319927
>put my faith in something,
>in something I know is realin something I know is real
uhhhhhhh

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I really don't get people who say that "God is not real" because they see or experience some horrible evil, if "God" is truly a supreme being, and something exists, then that existence is basically approved by "God" because it is allowed to exist in the first place.

There is no point of "evil" in the first place if it could not happen, if there were nothing to gain for being evil, the choice to be "good" would lose its meaning.

I also don't understand how people see "God" as such a human thing, like being a bearded man, talking or walking, etc, if God is the master of ALL THAT IS, there is absolutely no need for such low form of actions like talking to an invidual human, most likely there would be no need to do anything ever, but to simply exist.

We all do what we want anyway, and that tells the story of our character, lower beings do lower things, and higher beings higher things, this is the reason too why in religious texts there are no many explanations, a higher being would just tell a higher concept of the nature of reality, like "you reap what you sow", a lower being would give a long and detailed explanation of how you get X amount of crops if you plant Y amount of seeds. This is also how it works in any structure of hierarchy, the higher will give simple directions, or do small movements, while the lower interpret the meaning, and do larger movements.

Whoever has ears, let them hear, if you "listen" as in perceive the reality around you, it tells a hidden story about it's true nature, and those who "have ears" will listen to it's story and figure out it's meaning.

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>>13321446
If God includes all evil then why bother? Problem of evil covers it decently.
In the context of mysticism and religion interpretation is a fancy way of saying I don't know shit.

>Whoever has ears, let them hear, if you "listen" as in perceive the reality around you, it tells a hidden story about it's true nature, and those who "have ears" will listen to it's story and figure out it's meaning.
This revelation brought you here. If you haven't question God so far then this is a good place to start.

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>>13321880
>This revelation brought you here.
Like attracts like, however, you, as in the people of /jp/, won't attract me in such a way, and I do not attract you. I fail to see how that revelation has brought me here, I do not seek any understanding from here.

>If God includes all evil then why bother?
Why bother with what?

How does one question God if one cannot even comprehend it? How would I even distinct the second most Godlike being/force in the existence from God?

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>>13321446
>"God is not real"
Benevolent omnipotent god as portrayed by major organized religions such as Christianity. The proper noun of God, with a capitalized "G" is generally understood to mean Yahweh/Jehovah of Abrahamic faith since there is prohibition against using those names.

>I also don't understand how people see "God" as such a human thing, like being a bearded man, talking or walking, etc
This is literally an issue that dates back to pre-Judaic times. Gods were used as personification of natural or otherwise unexplainable phenomena. Simple pagan religions simply saw a connection to a certain kind of behavior, similar to those of certain animals. More complex religions seeking to explain the motive behind the behaviors and answer the question of "why" started personifying them.

> if God is the master of ALL THAT IS, there is absolutely no need for such low form of actions like talking to an invidual human, most likely there would be no need to do anything ever, but to simply exist.
Then you're something like a Deist, which also largely rejects the Christian god. The problem with your analysis is philosophies seek to create fundamental truths, such as what is good and bad, to explain things. Making good and bad not fundamental truths, but merely human inventions reduces your philosophy to merely humanism.

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>>13322069
>How would I even distinct the second most Godlike being/force in the existence from God?
A "God" is to me something beyond this universe, beyond the chains of time and so. I quite dig movements like Raëlism but it only pushes the question so far.

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>>13322111
I'm sorry, I don't understand the last part of your text at all, I don't know what you are trying to say.

>>13322154
But if there are many such beings as you described, then there are many Gods, you could say that at least among them are "false gods", because some of them are inferior to others, isn't the title reserved for the supreme being?

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>>13322185
You're saying god doesn't matter. In terms of human psychology, if it doesn't matter, it might as well not exist. If god has no impact on your life, and offers nothing to benefit your life, does god exist?

Do aliens exist? Maybe. Does it matter if they exist? Not really. Therefore you live your life as if aliens do not exist. The only difference is being agnostic about it instead of denying it.

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>>13322185
>But if there are many such beings as you described, then there are many Gods
that doesn't follow. those beings are angels in christianity.

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>>13322185
>>13322320
Here I was thinking buddhism is nontheistic because of it's non-dualism, but apparently the question isn't so simply settled.

I gravitate towards new-age spirituality and simply acknowledging that there must be forces in play we are not aware of. Maybe some sort of life force that we all are separated from, for our brief existence in this reality.

I guess I'm simply agnostic.

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>>13322281
God does matter, while you might not be able to directly have to do anything with him, you can still try to perceive his nature by observation, making you directly wiser, and you can even try to be like him, thus eventually getting closer to him.

I have not made bold claims like "God does not matter", that is a false interpretation.

>>13322320
Everything is relative to the definition of their word, in some cultures demons are gods or angels, and angels are gods, that is why it is better to save the word God to describe the ultimate being, and use other names for lesser things. Even better, don't use God, angel or demon at all, people often associate these names with Bible, thus corrupting the original purpose of the word.

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you crossies need to study SHINTO

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>>13318959
That's not God's fault.
God gave you free will, if you decide to use that gift to kill people instead of making a better world it's your fault.

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Why didn't God give me better genes

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lmoa

The notion of the divine has always functioned to legitimize some ambient political entity. It was a device used to compel plebeians into pushing boulders and eating the shit of a small enclave of nobility that their existence served to enable. Every goddamn monarchy and most totalitarian regimes contain some divine element - it's a timeless enabler of extreme wealth and power disparity.

Contemporary manifestations of religion are devoid of this function given their political context. Instead, they appeal to very basic psychological needs and are a thin pretext for otherwise benign social activities. Some organizations are more financially exploitative than others, but by in large the modern church functions to extract money from people in exchange for a community and good feels.

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>>13322111
>philosophies seek to create fundamental truths
Are you posting from the 1800s right now?

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what the HELL happened to this thread?

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>>13325001
Touhou battles.

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>>13324965
Communism didn't need a divine religion to exploit the people. Just need to create a Cult of personality.

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>>13324965
I was like you during my commie highschool phase

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>>13325021
I don't deny this. Personality cults serve an analogous function; whether or not they use explicit divine elements the image and mythos that gets promulgated achieves virtually the same thing.

Also don't imply that assorted totalitarian regimes which have branded themselves as communistic have actually every applied communism.

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>>13325030
What does communism have to do with any of this?

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>>13325044
>>13325046
Every commies talk like this, they lambash religion for being the tool for the MAN to hold down the people, and when they are in power, they would fix that. Except when in power, they are even more bloodier than the religious leaders, but of course they don't count because they have never applied "true communism".

That's because true communism is a crock of shit that's never going to happen and even fake capitalism is better than it.

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>>13325054
And know this, even in the Soviet union that basically tried to ban religions, Orthodox Christianity still exist. The same for Commie China and Commie Vietnam, their traditional religions still thrive despite governmental suppression.

It's the people who want religions, and some petty politics ain't going to take that way.

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>>13325054
Yeah communism is total shit but it's not like this is the only context or motivation for criticizing religion.

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>>13324965
That is true, however, no matter how much exploitation happens in the name of religion, that should not tarnish the notion of divine, it is the shame of the abusers and the blind followers, not the original concept.

I suppose that like many people, you have become to hate religious beliefs because of the governed religion and its blind followers, I find this very sad.

In my eyes, many of the beautiful concepts have been tarnished by followers of Christianity, angels are just some people with wings, devil is some "bad" guy with a pitchfork, if you try to talk about these things philosophically, people have already so many preconceptions that it is not even worth trying, so much uglyness has been implanted to peoples minds, that they cannot see the beauty.

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>>13325068
Criticizing religion from that angle is useless because everything can be used to hold the man down, even goddamn literature and music.

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>>13325073
I'm not criticizing it from any "angle". Using ideology to critique religion is just as moronic as the religion itself.

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>>13325079
Uh, I was chainquoting the dude who said religion is just an excuse for the nobility to hold the mass down.

Well, real life holds both examples and counter-examples of that.

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I struggle with my religious beliefs everyday. This world is fucking insane, for absolutely no reason we have to go through with this bullshit. I hate it

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>>13325087
Religion is the belief in the ideal.

Do you *believe* in the ideal or not? That's the question to separate a faithful being and a non-faithful being.

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>>13325085
And that was me, though I didn't limit it to political dimensions.

Put simply, religion is born from anthropocentrism and human idiocy while simultaneously used to exploit those same sensibilities that make it so appealing. This has nothing to do with ideology, but basic human psychology.

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>>13325099
So if belief in religion is a human thing to do, then there's nothing wrong with that.

If you believe you are better than human for lambasting a belief, fine, I'm not going to share that train of though.

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>>13325091
I want to believe in the ideal. I have nothing else. Nobody that loves me. Nobody that gives a shit. I'm probably autistic and I've been through so much actual physical and mental abuse from the people around me and a cuck father. Literally. I have nothing else besides god and I've even turned my back on him...

This thread is not easy place right now

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>>13325105
Do you still wear diapers and shit yourself? Do you scream and cry when your hot pockets have frozen sections in them?

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>>13325113
Faith needs no reason.

Just keep on believing and fighting for what you believe in, so even if the world fucks over you, at least you know you tried.

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>>13325115
What is a "hot pocket"?

And nah, I don't like diaper.

Though if I like it, I'd do it too, I don't give a shit.

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>>13325099
Wouldn't you say that the same basic need for communality and trust among one another is "abused" with ideologies too, though?

It seems to me that socialist countries naturally gravitate towards being less religious, and I tend to think it is because there is no need for that institution anymore.

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>>13325123
You sound Japanese. Shouldn't you be having sex with you hirohito daki?

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>>13325156
I'm Vietnamese actually, thank you.

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>>13325155
I assume you are talking about Europe?

Then again, muslims are entering Europe in droves.

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>>13325160
You're welcome.

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>>13325155
>the same basic need for communality and trust among one another is "abused" with ideologies too
To a certain extent, absolutely. What form political manipulation takes is ultimately interchangeable. I just can't stand the sentiment of "we need religion to be able to have a community". It can be done for its own sake and doesn't require any external validation.

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>>13319927
Not it's not really about god, but the way to say it makes you sound like an autistic retard

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>>13318792
What's that thing on the chair between her feet? It's really bothering me.

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>>13325750
I think it's a bar of soap. You purposely slip on the soap, making you fall off the chair, thereby hanging yourself.

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>>13325765
Couldn't you just jump off the chair?

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>>13325775
Takes more courage to jump than to slip.
>Were are we on the god thing ? I only see one poster believing in it.

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>>13325775
Yeah, that was stupid of me. Maybe the soap is used to lubricate the knot slide.

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>>13325795
Wow that's an odd use of green text, using it to split off an unrelated part of your post like that.

I've seen that often with spoilers, where to me it implies a kind of "I'm sorry I'm making this low quality comment that doesn't fit with the board culture, so I'll acknowledge it by using spoiler tags such that you don't have to look at it if you don't want to" connotation.

But I've never seen anyone do that with green text before.

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>>13316206
Explain this meme to me someone.

What's the point?

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>>13326250
It's not a meme.
Stop calling whatever you see a meme for no reason you crossie.

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>>13326301
Don't call me a crossie. I am a girl from /cgl/, I am pretty good at being /jpg/

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>>13326362
I'm a boy from /cgl/. Wanna taste a dick?

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>>13326530
Thats uhh macabre.

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>>13325320
No, the fedora meme was created by butthurt christians. It was never about autism. Christians are plenty autistic themselves.

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>>13330260
Now it's just used to shut down inconvenient opinions. Oh, you dislike something I like? Well, I'm going to post an image of an autist and insinuate that you share some essential feature.

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>>13326362

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>>13324965
>The notion of the divine has always functioned to legitimize some ambient political entity.
>always
I find the act of conflating a cave nigger praying to his sun god for a good hunt with the cave nigga using worship of the sun god to to control others ignorant, and frankly, euphoric.

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>>13325115
are you serious

Just look around you, look where you are, and think about, try to grasp the fucking irony of the situation, the argument you're making and who you're preaching to and where you're preaching it

this has to be one of my favorite posts of /jp/ because of the utter lunacy of the source, the person being attacked and which aspect of him is being attacked

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>>13333589
Are you sure that you commented the right post? Because I have no idea what you or the one you commented are talking about.

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>>13334993
/jp/sies are abnormal.

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tbh the only reward of being an autist is my crippling loneliness and urge to put my penis in tewi

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>>13333555
As do I. They're hardly comparable.

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religions are all just dumb forced memes
they should not be discussed seriously

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>>13325119
All youre doing is deluding yourseof like that.

Why is it so hard for you faggots to accept the cold hard reality in front of you and try to make the best of that?
Yoire just wasting your lives believing in shit you have no way of knowing is real or not. Granted you may well be happier overall if tou can convince yourself some god is real and maybe even live in a happy community of like minded people, but just remenber that you might as well be praying to the flying spaghetti monster, thats just as likely to be real.
have some integrity and look for truth, not pleasant fiction.

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>>13325115
>Do you scream and cry when your hot pockets have frozen sections in them?

You know that still pissed me off to this day until I figured out how to fix it. Double the cooking time and set the power to 50%.

Viola. The classic neckbeard nightmare, solved in an instant!

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>>13335522
Faith is limitless, you literally can't waste it.

And my mind is my church actually, for me religion isn't inclusive with "community".

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>>13335021
>and urge to put my penis in tewi

and there's nothing wrong with that, no sir

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>>13335522
Says a man who has not searched for a day, but mocks those who have found?

If you don't go around knocking, do you just think that you can receive anything?

If you see and experience the other world, there is no turning back after a point, it changes you forever, for good or bad, but when you have the knowledge of otherwordly things, you can't look the world the same again.

Only those who seek will be rewarded, the ignorant shall receive nothing, if they cannot even receive the scraps of truth, they will be left to drown in their own ignorance.

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/jp/ is faithful!!!

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>>13335522

This nigga's got a point, but he's also missing a point. To wit: the existence of God (or The Divine, or universal moral laws - these are all interchangeable, and our personal conceptualization of them is fairly arbitrary; the FSM being one example,) is by definition something beyond the ability of Science to prove. We cannot DISPROVE it ("there are no absolute laws" is itself an absolute law,) but that's not the same as proof, either. Therefore "god exists" and "god does not exists" are not just untestable hypotheses, but effectively pointless ones, because they don't affect us no matter what the answer is.

Because of that, we can only measure the virtue of religion by its affects in our known, testable, mortal world. The classic example is "Pascal's Wager," but Pascal's wager itself presupposes a lot of things - namely, that IF god exists, than he's totally the Old Testament god of If You Didn't Recognize Me I'mma Whup Your Sorry Ass And Ship You Off To Hell. That's weak and unnecessary. Religious belief has plenty of measurable and obvious benefits to one's life. The Founding Fathers of America gambled big on that - they figured that those truths were so "self-evident" that men of all faiths and creeds could agree on them. When they founded a secular country, most European observers figured they didn't have a chance in hell of pulling it off - how could a nation without one universal moral code, as established and legitimized by religion, ever agree on laws? They have to be founded on something, after all; otherwise the definition of moral and immoral behavior is completely arbitrary. That experiment turned out better than most expected.

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>epic christianity meme
go back to s4s you meme loving fucks

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>>13335919

The most important question any religious person must ask themselves is "if I woke up tomorrow and somehow knew that God didn't exist, would I regret living my life as a religious man?" The answer should be "no," every aspect of your religiously-dictated beliefs and behaviors should be positive, considered on its own merits. Any policy or action that cannot be justified on its own merits must draw its justification from religion only; i.e. "because this book said so." And that is a dangerous, dangerous fucking road to go down. If that truth is not "self-evident" in some way, than it's hard to call it anything more than a completely arbitrary demand used to justify awful behavior. Religious texts are the victims of a two-thousand year game of Telephone; just because some asshole in eleventy-whatever BC scribbled in his own editorial doesn't mean it's the words of the Prophet or of the God. Blind adherence to dogma is blind adherence to dogma, period - be it religion, political party lines or tribal loyalties, it's the same damn thing. Acting on dogma you cannot or will not question or attempt to understand on a theoretical level reduces you to the level of a fucking cow following the herd based on some simple, animalistic group-think instinct.

So tl;dr there's no fucking reason religion cannot be justified purely on its own merits, without recourse to unprovable deific fiat. But by the same token, there's no fucking excuse for ANYONE to justify their religion based only on unprovable deific fiat. If you can't answer the question at the top of this post, than the fedora tipping lolsoedgy clowns will literally be more correct than you, and that is inexcusable.

Do NOT let that happen.

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>>13335919
That is fine and all, but such a bother to write so much "low level stuff" that should be basically self evident.

Wouldn't it be better to go straight to the source, and teach logic, so everyone can figure that out themselves, force feeding is a short shighted, and unrefined solution.

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>>13335996

Everyone should be taught formal logic AND basic statistics in high school, at the very least. It'd be immeasurably valuable to our society.

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>>13334993
I assume he's talking about how the first guy bretty much says religion is for the weak/immature/cowardly to take comfort in, then he likens it to things children and escapist neckbeards do. The second guy finds it ironic, because this is /jp/ and you could probably make the same argument for them.

"Oh, grow up, forget about those cartoon girls and experience what's actually tangible out there".

"You're just wasting your lives spending time with shit that will never be real. Granted you may well be happier overall if tou can convince yourself some of it is and maybe even live in a happy community of like minded people, but just remenber that you might as well be praying to the flying spaghetti monster, thats just as likely to be real.
have some integrity and look for truth, not pleasant fiction"

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>>13336051
Want immeasurable gains?

Teach children in small groups, or invidually, make them associate learning to positive things, like rewards and success, and most importantly, don't raise them in a shitty environment.

Most of /jp/ could have been prevented if only you would have been taken better care of when you were young, adjusting behaviour only gets harder as time goes on.

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>>13336379
But most of /jp/ is pretty interesting, if they all had boring normal childhood they would become disgusting normies!!!

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>>13337263
>But most of /jp/ is pretty interesting
I know you're cuteposting, but you have no idea how true this is. I love reading metathreads and NEET/Hikki threads for this very reason.

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>>13337269
I'm not cuteposting tho....

I usually don't do things ironically.

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>>13337263
>>13337269
Then your definition of "interesting" is not the same as mine, not very long ago I just commented this saying that watching you guys interact each other is more boring than watching bugs fuck.

Sure, being NEET/Hikki could be interesting, but your posts are like two sentences long, usually about fucking touhous, how that is so different from normies telling "interesting" stories about how they bang girls?

I don't hate you or anything, life is cruel, but you should take a look at the mirror sometimes, and actually see how pathetic you really are.

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>>13337339
Patheticness is interesting.

Everyone trashtalk the villain but he usually gets more discussion than the hero.

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>>13335919
Henry Hatsworth is the best EA game.

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>>13337346
Sure, but being pathetic in itself is not interesting, villains have some other qualities too, and they are actually doing something that makes them interesting, the problem is that you guys are not really doing anything but wasting air, hell, the images you post are not usually that great either.

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>>13337419
Well, we talk about stuff, ya know?

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>>13337419
Everybody in /jp/ has a good story or two about their lives.

The problem happens when people decide to tell us about their lives every single day, including all those where fucking nothing happens.

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>>13337457
Blogging seems not to be allowed, however, I'm all for it, because it would make you guys know each other better, and give some meaning for this place, at least it would work as a some kind of support group. Also it opens up some form of activities, like friday/weekend drinking with /jp/ (not IRL ofc) that could be fun, maybe that would ease you up, and make you say something worthwhile for a change.

It would eventually lead to more people using names, and not everyone likes that.

I bet this topic is some kind of taboo amongst you, but whatever.

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>>13337589
nah, that's getting into normie territory.

We're here to hear interesting stories, not caretakers.

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>>13337592
And where one finds those? I have read only one, that was on a doll thread, it was about a guy who moved to some (African?) country for work and fell in love with a 12(?) years old girl, and then local thugs wanted the girl, so they beat him and the girls family up, truth or not, that was actually worth reading, haven't seen anything worthwhile after that.

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>>13337615
Random chance, random thread.

There is no factory that produces interesting stories consistently.

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>>13337615
If you look for NEET threads from years ago you'll find some here and there.

>>13337589
This is pretty much what IRC is for.

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For a minute I was confused why there were so many 2hu pictures on /sci/, then I realized this is /jp/

both of those boards have gone downhill so much

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>>13337419
Life has no intrinsic value, there isn't anything there to be wasted.