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艦これ Anonymous Tue Jan 27 04:59:17 2015 No.12961902 [Reply] [Original]

Am I the only one who thinks it's weird how touhou has a whole board while kancolle is forced into a single overmoderated general?

As you may know kancolle has gotten bigger than touhou by now. I live in Japan and I can see how kancolle penetrated areas even touhou couldn't manage to. It is definitely big and Japan is going even crazier about it thanks to the anime. In the meantime touhou gatherings became even scarcer with less people attending them since there is no inflow of new material. My friend who always goes to off-kais told me how there are complaints about touhou doujinka switching over to kancolle. He said this is going to spiral out since there is even less material now to work with. I also saw pixiv statistics about current trends somewhere and it's scary how kancolle is outpacing everything else.

I'm just curious how did things end up this way? Would touhou and mlp have been forced into a single general too if they appeared today? What would it take for kancolle to get its own board like touhou and mlp did?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 05:02:02 2015 No.12961906 Why can't Touhou and Cancoal share a board?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 05:03:18 2015 No.12961908 It has it's own board here. There's nothing restricting it to one thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 05:03:43 2015 No.12961910 >>12961902 >how to get kancolle thread By extreme shitposting. Thats how these kinds of boards are formed. You have to start a revolution. also 2hu4lyfe

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 05:07:44 2015 No.12961915 >>12961902 If you leave your containment thread, the Kancer Collection will spread. That rhymes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 05:08:49 2015 No.12961917 But you already have your own board http://fullch.net/kancolle/ full = 8

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 05:10:15 2015 No.12961922

>>12961908 has the right of it. The reason there's just one thread is because there's not enough interest in /jp/ to sustain one. The infinite secondary parade that sustains Touhou Project is actually taking place in the /a/ threads instead of it's more "topical" board.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 05:12:20 2015 No.12961926

>>12961902
>I live in Japan and I can see how kancolle penetrated areas even touhou couldn't manage to.

Because Kadokawa's jew money. And Touhou has always been a large part of doujin culture. Try making a Kancolle fan game, you can't.

Also, there isn't much to talk about kancolle outside the gameplay which really only deserves one thread. Talking about the anime goes to /a/, anything else is /k/ or /pol/ related.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 05:16:39 2015 No.12961935 >>12961902 Kancolle only got big because of the military theme, which isn't much. The girls are only a bonus. Also, Shimakaze looks like a slut.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 05:17:43 2015 No.12961937

>>12961902
Kancolle is quarantined because the people running this place do not know anything about it. Unlike Touhou, they can't download it, there's no fan games, few translated comics, and no subbed flash videos on Youtube. Also, Touhou came out during their adolescence, so they treat it like a part of them and allow single character threads to litter the board. Touhou also has a very strong fanfiction and RP community in the west. So since they know near nothing about Kancolle, they force a "truce" and simply allow it one general, just as they have for the idol groups they are ignorant about.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 05:18:03 2015 No.12961938

>>12961922
But that's wrong.
-kancolle threads get deleted all the time so much no-one even tries to make them anymore
-because of this kancolle has no visibility and is on the same level as the idol generals everyone just hides
-people in generals don't bother checking out new threads anyway

/kc/ is the fastest thread on the board. Saying there is no interest is just silly.

>>12961926
>Also, there isn't much to talk about kancolle outside the gameplay which really only deserves one thread.
So, what is there to talk about touhou other than smelly armpits and sanae a slut xD imagedumps?

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 05:19:00 2015 No.12961939

>>12961910

Kancollu akbar. ~Desu.
*Boom*~poi

Kantai is indeed the game of love. Waga-hai can vouch for it.
DMM needs more intergaming debates.
2hu called for it; if they cursed my mom I'd punch 'em. It's normal ~Desu.

Kon! We now come together Kon! To pray for the poor innocent foxes that have suffered due to Gaming hatred. Kon!. Don't forget to buy revive crystals and morale candies Kon!.

OP, those that shitpost more get more threads. You can do one thread for each girl's boobs and asses, or you can keep them nicely together in the same place.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 05:23:13 2015 No.12961945 File: 766 KB, 1120x1500, 43544380.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Agreed there should at least be a thread dedicated to Tone's nude hips.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 05:27:47 2015 No.12961950 File: 169 KB, 700x516, a660cc050278c6357675c759a102875b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Try and take the board over with shitgirls and i can guarantee a shitposting fallout unlike anything you've ever seen

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 05:28:49 2015 No.12961952 >>12961950 We are /jp/. We invented shitposting

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 05:29:38 2015 No.12961954 >>12961950 You don't have what it takes

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 05:29:40 2015 No.12961955 >>12961902 The people that run the site aren't the people that keep up with otaku culture. Why are you surprised? Just look at the logs and the qna to see how out of touch they are with the current reality.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 05:30:23 2015 No.12961957 File: 16 KB, 186x220, rancesmile.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Only fags and queers fap to kancolle.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 05:31:01 2015 No.12961960 The board is ran by a bunch of no-lifes who have no idea about otaku culture anymore since they spend all their time babysitting threads. Just check the leaked logs. >>12961955 Are you me? I literally wanted to say the same.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 05:32:16 2015 No.12961961 >>12961950 Isn't the board filled with shitgirls already? It doesn't make any different if Kancollefags fill-in their shipgirls too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 05:32:22 2015 No.12961962 >>12961957 >fapping

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 05:33:56 2015 No.12961967 >>12961906 Seconded. 2hu and Kancolle can share a board peacefully. Both were invented by Japanese anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 05:36:48 2015 No.12961971 >2015 >２０１５ >2 0 1 5 >TWO THOUSAND FIFTEEN >touhou shitters still exist

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 05:37:38 2015 No.12961972

>>12961938
>kancolle threads get deleted all the time so much no-one even tries to make them anymore
I mean... not really. Sometimes threads that are deleted suck. Usually people just don't post in them. I tried getting some off the ground last year.

The ones that actually did get deleted, and which actually did make me mad at the ignorant mongoloids running this place - which I usually don't get - was any thread that compared Kancolle to Touhou. Because that was "fanbase wars" and therefore against the rules. Around a year ago there was a very long and successful thread comparing and contrasting three hundred-girl franchises - Kancolle, Touhou, and IM@S. It got to two hundred or so on-topic, interesting posts before some ignorant fuckwit decided that good threads shouldn't be allowed. You know who you are.

>Saying there is no interest is just silly.
There's no interest in discussing it outside the thread. All the material that Touhou people use /jp/ for is in /a/. Doujinshi, translations, fanarts, character discussion, which kanker wud u fuk - already has a home in /a/, and the people don't feel like leaving.

Also there's people like >>12961950 who go on shitposting crusades whenever they see a boat, and also, people terrified that the staff will come down and shit on them.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 05:42:05 2015 No.12961979

>>12961972
Oh, now that I think about it, somebody also deleted my 24-hour Imuya time festival thread without comment. I never got an explanation for why some shit-eater would take a huge unceremonious dump on something that I had spent an hour or two preparing, even though I sent an email about it (not that I was expecting one).

I guess you are kind of right.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 05:52:22 2015 No.12961985 File: 65 KB, 300x300, dinghy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12961910 > By extreme shitposting you mean shipposting

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 06:03:05 2015 No.12961994 [DELETED]

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Are kankershits trying to crawl out of their general again?
There is a reason it's called CONTAINMENT thread kanshitters. Get the hint already and fuck back off your hole.
We don't want your kanker here, be happy you are allowed to have even a single thread on OUR board.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 06:07:38 2015 No.12961995 File: 613 KB, 500x888, 2huvskantai.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I enjoyed both kancolle and touhou doujishi. Why don't you two factions learn to live peaceful together?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 06:08:15 2015 No.12961996 kancer collection should be contained in /vg/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 06:09:04 2015 No.12961998 >>12961995 They do. Most of the people stirring up shit are stirring up shit for the sake of stirring up shit. That said, the Kancolle fanbase is remarkably shitty.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 06:11:15 2015 No.12962002 >>12961998 try to be more subtle next time t. mastertrolle

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 06:13:29 2015 No.12962006 >>12962002 Case in point.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 06:14:26 2015 No.12962008 This entire board should be nuked

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 06:18:04 2015 No.12962015 File: 41 KB, 312x960, Three factions.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12961995 >Not include LL. /jp/ should belong to these three Great factions.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 06:24:54 2015 No.12962028 >kancolle has gotten bigger than touhou by now Do you have any backup sources for your shitty claim? Also I'll bite and ask : Give me one single thing that is good about Kancolle, the sluts excluded. The story? The game? You have to be shitting me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 06:26:36 2015 No.12962032 >>12962028 WWII Japan > Ancient Japan

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 06:28:32 2015 No.12962034 >>12962032 So this is the mindset of Kancolle fans? Go ahead and tell the Japaneses what you just said while I'm laughing at you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 06:30:25 2015 No.12962038 >>12962028 46cm cannons Bitches love 46cm cannons

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 06:31:59 2015 No.12962040 >>12961938 >/kc/ is the fastest thread on the board Monster Girl is way the fuck faster. Onahole thread is right there with boatgirls lately.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 06:36:06 2015 No.12962045 >>12962015 LL is a fad. It is over once they graduated which they did. The movie will be their swan song.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 06:40:19 2015 No.12962054 mad as FUK

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 06:40:35 2015 No.12962055

>>12962034
Honestly, for me personally, modern history is more interesting than ancient history and mythology. The only reason I'm a kanshitter today is because I had already knew a ton about WWII. Otherwise I would have just dismissed it as retarded gimmick shit (which it kind of is).

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 06:52:09 2015 No.12962070

>>12962028
Thematically I prefer WWII versus Youkai, design wise I prefer some boats to some 2hus but not for others. Really I just got bored of Touhou, all the new games have sucked ass and I've disliked 90% of the new designs.

>>12962040
Because they're full of crossies, at least the KanColle general tries to conform to /jp/ posting standards. Mainly because all the shitposting and general behavior is in the /a/ thread.

>>12962045
Doesn't really matter, there might not be a new anime series but merchandise is still selling stupidly well along with CDs topping charts and they can keep pumping out stand alone movies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 07:01:26 2015 No.12962090 File: 43 KB, 1116x173, jp_first_post.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] /jp/ was created specifically for Touhou.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 07:03:03 2015 No.12962092 >>12962090 >Don't allow any one thing to dominate the board No it wasn't

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 07:04:28 2015 No.12962094 >>12962090 >dont allow anyone thing to dominate this board >im going to axe this board immediately if it doesnt turn out well and becomes a hassle to moderate many keks were had

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 07:04:37 2015 No.12962095 >>12962090 >general Japanese things. Kancolle made by Japanese and published in Japan.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 07:04:46 2015 No.12962096 >>12962090 Anon, we have to evolve and keep up with the trend. We need to embrace the new hotness like dark souls, monhun, LL, kancolle and etc

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 07:08:38 2015 No.12962103 I don't see why the two series have to be mutually exclusive. I have a taryh who plays it but still listens to Touhou music like 95% of his time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 07:09:48 2015 No.12962107 >>12962103 *a friend Goddammit I typed the captcha for some reason

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 07:12:37 2015 No.12962112
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>What would it take for kancolle to get its own board like touhou and mlp did?
Maybe it would take for the kancolle community to be more engaged than it is right now? A game popularity isn't measured simply by how many people play it or discuss about the main game. Fact is for touhou almost no one played the fucking original game.

But even if people didn't play touhou, they care about its universe, the girls, the music etc. and more importantly they created FAN CONTENT out of that, any kind of fan content. And A LOT of it. Kancolle will never ever be on the same level as touhou in that front due to its commercial nature and the shitty Jewdokawa policy. How many GB of fanmade Kancolle music do you have? How many fan games? How many RL gathering/flashmob etc. Please don't tell me that because there are now slightly more circles at Comike for Kancolle than Touhou that more Kancolle content is made. If you were at C87 this year you would have noticed that the crowd for Kancolle was actually way more manageable (by Comike standards) than a year before at C85.

If you live in Japan you should have noticed that Touhou is just as present as kancolle in stores. Head to Akiba, it's easier to find anything Touhou than Kancolle. Enter an arcade, play recent music game, what songs do you have? Touhou. SDVX, maimai, BitStream... Touhou managed to become "mainstream" without money/marketing campaigns, simply with community. No anime was aired on national television 2 years after its creation, combini didn't do touhou-collabo, no console game etc.

That's the difference between what is a long lasting phenonema (albeit on the decline now) and a trend. Kancolle is a trend, just like any other product out there. Trends doesn't deserve their own board.

Don't misread the above, I like both, but if you were on 4chan before /jp/ was created you would understand as well why this was necessary and why today's cirmcumstances with Kancolle are by no mean comparable to Touhou back then.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 07:17:54 2015 No.12962127 >>12962112 fukn got dose fukn shitheads

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 07:22:03 2015 No.12962136
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Kancolle will be dead in two years.

>It is definitely big and Japan is going even crazier about it thanks to the anime.

You mean this anime?

>touhou doujinka switching over to kancolle

Looking at latest doujins a bunch of them went back to Touhou already.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 07:22:09 2015 No.12962137 Shitposter-kun here. I have started sliding again. I would slide all your threads off the board. I run this place bitch. I just need to find a couple extra proxies and this place will be done for.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 07:24:51 2015 No.12962143 >>12962045 And then the new generation with the little russian slut will happen. Just like Cinderella crap for im@s.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 07:46:44 2015 No.12962167
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>>12962112
Really?
The same toranoana that lost its 2hu floor years ago? With Kancolle doujin dominating the storefront?

Toranoana run a business and Jewdokawa has no profit to be gain from shilling for doujin circles.

The anime might be shit but negative publicity is better than no publicity.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 07:48:24 2015 No.12962168

Seems to me like there's just no camaraderie among the kancolle fans. Seems to me like everyone either greatly resent everyone else, or doesn't give a fuck about anyone else. There's rarely any sort of interaction between different posts aside from bickering.

Like that time that one autist decided to prove that kancolle deserved as much representation as 2hu, and made like a hundred threads, but he was literally the only one bumping them. They were literally the oldest threads on the board at only about 30 posts in each thread.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 07:52:37 2015 No.12962171

>>12962168
I actually would have liked to see Kancolle threads that weren't 95% game blogging, but there's no way there was enough interest to in /jp/ to keep up individual character threads like there was for Touhou Project.

I got banned for sarcastically telling him that he was doing a good job. It was really just retarded.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 07:53:59 2015 No.12962173 [DELETED]

>>12962168
> There's rarely any sort of interaction between different posts aside from bickering.
fuck off

>but he was literally the only one bumping them
>implying it was only one person
>implying those threads weren't babysitted to hell and most of the posts weren't regularly deleted without a reason to the point where everyone simply felt discouraged to post in them

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 07:55:25 2015 No.12962176

>>12962173
I don't know how it is in /a/, the /jp/ threads are half blogging, half bickering, and all terrible. The only saving grace is that very occasionally you'll get the random piece of game-related news before anyone else.

Also, those threads got one post a day like clockwork. Please.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 07:58:08 2015 No.12962185

Just look at how many DMM games that are basically a Kancolle clone out there already. Castle girls, sword boys, etc. It really feels like a trend than a long lasting thing.

And really, what can Kancolle develop beyond WWII Japanese warships. Maybe German ships (which they already did) then Axis ships and that's it? Going any further will feel forced.

Also, it's not made by doujin creator and not an integral part of doujin culture. Kadokawa only run Kancolle this far because the sudden popularity that they did not expect. If shit happens, they will jump ship and what's left is an empty shell (no pun intended).

I do play Kancolle and enjoy it but I honestly can't see it go very far.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 07:58:55 2015 No.12962189 >>12962176 >half blogging, half bickering, and all terrible at least that is more like a discussion than all those 2hu threads that are basically which 2hu wud you fug

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:02:08 2015 No.12962198 >>12962112 Dude, I went to Akiba last week everywhere is Love Live and KanColle, they're both all my classmates talk about as well. Keep defending your dying franchise though.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:05:05 2015 No.12962203

>>12962185
I don't actually care that much about what Kadokawa does with it, I'm only really in it for the doujin. Even the official works contradict each other so the amount of canon autistry you can do is limited.

>>12962189
Most Touhou threads aren't great but at least people will go into the lore.

Also, /jp/'s Touhou fans used to be way more involved with and knowledgeable about doujin circles and suchlike back in the day, though that sort of interest really dropped off a cliff at some point.

I was actually hoping that we could get a resurgence of interest in doujin culture with the introduction of Kancolle to /jp/, but between most of that discussion moving to /a/ and /jp/ confining itself to one threads after the resident shitposters declared war on it, it didn't happen.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:07:32 2015 No.12962209

>>12962203
>though that sort of interest really dropped off a cliff at some point.
After that disastrous 2013 with shitposters shitting on every fucking uploader and being horribly buttblasted at anyone saying "Thank you" it's normal that they fucking went away, who the fuck would stay with a bunch of autistic idiots like this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:09:27 2015 No.12962218 >>12962185 Kadokawa already fucked up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:09:38 2015 No.12962219 >>12962198 pics or it didnt happen "dude" lmao nice 20th cent lingo

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:10:47 2015 No.12962223

>>12962168
Everyone who posted in those threads got banned. They stayed up as honeypots to lure people in and ban them. Like the furry board moot did once.

>>12962198
>classmates
underage ?

>>12962203
>after the resident shitposters declared war on it
More like resident 2hufags.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:14:08 2015 No.12962233 >>12962223 I'm 22. Studying my 2nd year of Uni in Japan. Why the HELL would I be in Japan by myself studying if I was underage.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:15:54 2015 No.12962240

>>12962209
I wasn't referring just to the uploaders, but also the general community interest in doujinshi, For that I really don't think Comiket threads being shitty was the dealbreaker (it's pretty easy to ignore those and just wait for the spreadsheet), as opposed to /jp/ just being shitty overall for a few years.

Non-H doujinshi, at any rate. H-doujins will have fans as long as men have penises.

>>12962223
>More like resident 2hufags.
Not really, I was a 2hufag for years myself. Some of the people bashing on it were too, sure. But the shitposting is different. It's dumb board minutiae, but most of the grunt work was carried about the same shitposters who shitpost everywhere and aren't above spamming Touhou threads when it suits them. One of them spent hours spamming Kancolle general every day for months.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:17:35 2015 No.12962244 >>12962198 にわか

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:19:23 2015 No.12962251

Kancolle is already flooded with secondaries talking about moe and kawaii shit only.

I believe there will be a time when people who were into Kancolle mainly because WWII history and navy stuff sit down and have easy tea time with touhou fan, letting the kancolle getting blown the fuck out by secondary kids.

I have no problem with the history buffs that first made Kancolle popular to begin with. It's those cringe-inducing Kancolle fanbases that ruin the game to me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:22:17 2015 No.12962261 >>12962189 >at least that is more like a discussion Say what? I'd rather have a shitty which 2hu wud you fug thread than someone blogging about his shitty life. There's /soc/ for that.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:24:07 2015 No.12962264

>>12962244
Some are for sure, KanColle and LL definitely have a vastly larger mainstream appeal, one guy only likes the LL music and doesn't care about the girls. Two others are pretty huge fans though, I don't think a series having mainstream appeal means it can't appeal to the hardcore fans as well. Just look at people who play for score in 2hu and those who just absorb the secondary content.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:24:21 2015 No.12962265

>>12962198
Big fucking deal, three years ago they were talking about Madoka and two years from now they'll be talking about something else. Touhou was never meant to blow the fuck out of franchises with sheer popularity and never has; it's been rolling along for twelve years (which is round when it started rising as a force in the doujin world) and it's not about to die tomorrow. I'd be surprised if Kancolle is still storming Comiket by 2020, let alone 2025.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:26:08 2015 No.12962269
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>>12962240
Its been that way since 2013.
Terrible environment and too many policing.
People cant go socks where anymore and are being told to go X for discussion and Y is for upload, pretty much kill off any sort of discussion.
The kancolle typesetters post on /a/ and the /jp/ kancolle thread. Why bother with /jp/ when you can just go to doujinstyle and grab the spreadsheet which is coincidentally what /jp/ wanted and became?

Also many of the doujin circle now release both.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:28:02 2015 No.12962273

I'm fine with Kancolle being the next big thing and its popularity may overshadow Touhou a bit.

I'm not fine with Kancolle fans purposefully talk shit about Touhou. Touhou has been around for fucking 15 years and was originally made by one guy only. If you don't like it, at least don't talk shit about it.

Seriously, why the fuck do people feel the need to talk shit about one thing to support another?

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:28:03 2015 No.12962274

>>12962265
No need to get so defensive, man. The first stage is accepting that Touhou just isn't as good as it used to be. Nobody cares about the new girls anywhere near as much as the old girls. UFO is probably the last game to actually have girls people somewhat care about.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:29:56 2015 No.12962277 Because /jp/sies are men who can't be moved. They can't move on.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:31:06 2015 No.12962278 >>12962273 i doubt that most of those talking shit about tohou are kancolle fans and vice versa, most of them are just shitposters who want to stirr up shit

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:31:46 2015 No.12962279

>>12962274
As someone who's lost a bit of interest in Touhou, I can say a lot of it's because I neither know nor care much about Japanese religion or Japanese feudal history, which is what the last whatever games have been about (also I thought HM sucked).

I genuinely don't know whether this is true for Japanese people as they've clearly got a better basis for appreciating it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:32:02 2015 No.12962281 Something should get its own board because it's big in Japan?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:32:02 2015 No.12962282 File: 226 KB, 500x495, 1352685114458.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12961998 2hu and shipgril fanbase has NEVER gotten along. Please stop spreading your hippy lies

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:33:35 2015 No.12962285 File: 41 KB, 398x297, 1358925962160.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12962278 >people don't agree with me, so they must be shitposters. Brilliant logic dude.

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>>12962273
>people feel the need to talk shit about one thing
You should read this thread and see who are doing the shit flinging.
Most people like both, why else would you be on /jp/.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:34:08 2015 No.12962287

>>12962282
2hu and shipgirl fanbase in Japan contains a lot of the same people. I actually expected the same thing to be true in /jp/ since a lot of the circles are the same, but instead everyone chose to go with the "my circle drew a boat everything is ruined" route instead. On the other hand I only got into Kancolle because a lot of my favorite artists did.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:35:30 2015 No.12962293 >>12962251 >bitching about secondaries in a game that has about as much lore as a korean mobile card game Oh thats rich

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:35:33 2015 No.12962294 everyone shitposts with titships outside the general as well as people shitposts with touhou outside the STG thread, or this thread supposed to be the declining meme?

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:35:35 2015 No.12962296

>>12962273
It's called a joke, anon. Nobody seriously believes Touhou is dead. It is somewhat declining and I don't think it's as good as it was, might be due to stagnation in secondary content and other reasons but still. If 2hu fans didn't get so buttblasted about it people wouldn't use it to shitpost.

>>12962279
Maybe, I don't visually think designs have been as good lately which is my main reason for losing interest. I guess it's part of a problem when you have an ever growing cast, just look at Cinderella Girls and some KanColle designs, they're just boring.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:35:52 2015 No.12962298
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>>12962274
TD is a bit of disappointment but Miko has a shitload of fans anyways.
DDC is pretty good though and Seija is really the next best stage 5 boss.

Also, tiny 2hu a best

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:37:42 2015 No.12962304 File: 471 KB, 1000x1000, 1331771572635.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12962286 >why else would you be in /jp/ Oh I don't know, touhou maybe? You know, one of the main reasons this place was created in the first place?

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:39:08 2015 No.12962307

>>12962293
Kancolle's lore is basically WWII Imperial Japan Navy. It's not much, but at least there are people who is genuinely interested in that. I admit that stripping that off though, the remains are just generic anime girls with bland personality and shallow character.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:39:30 2015 No.12962308 >>12962264 Inazuma Eleven, that one thing with personification of different nationality and even Im@s often had more doujins than Touhou.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:40:48 2015 No.12962311 >>12962298 Desire drive was the last good song. Double spoiler was the last good game. ZUN couldn't stop the rot. That shitty mask fightan game didnt do it for me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:43:02 2015 No.12962314 >>12962293 In the KanColle canon WW2 still actually happened, so all of actual history is actually relevant.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:44:30 2015 No.12962316

>>12962167
The 2hu floor (I suppose you mean the 2nd/3rd floor) has always been useless, just like the Kadokaswa (!= kancolle only) floor is today.

I'm talking about Doujins floors at the top. Touhou still dominate there. And that's only toranoana. Go to all shops especially in backstreets, there ae way more touhou merch/items than kancolle.

>>12962198
Confirmed for not knowing shit about Akiba.

>classmates

Baby confirmed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:44:55 2015 No.12962318 What's the stats of C87? Did Kancolle really have the largest circles number?

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:46:03 2015 No.12962319

>>12962311
Yeah... I completely hated HM too, I really loved SWR and Hisoutensoku so I was incredible disappointed. I'd agree with you that Double Spoiler was the last game I enjoyed as well. I still love WaHH, couldn't get into the other manga though.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:46:12 2015 No.12962320
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>>12962287
Incidentally it looks like Carcharias ended her fling with boatgirls and is now back... as of November last year. Probably a big slowpoke ere, though - I really haven't been keeping up with this shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:48:26 2015 No.12962324 is the plot in shipgirls to destroy all american shipgirls with japanese shipgirls, like in WW2?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:49:00 2015 No.12962328 Why is /jp/ so divided like this. Can't we all take it easy together again? Maybe I'll take it easy in the im@s thread for now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:49:59 2015 No.12962330 >>12962316 >there ae way more touhou merch/items than kancolle. lrn2 economics Everyone tries to sell their touhou stuff like mad because the demand for them is decreasing. They want to get rid of their inventory ASAP before the market crashes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:50:14 2015 No.12962333 >>12962324 No, and they definitely don't have tea party after battles.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:51:01 2015 No.12962334

>>12962316
I am talking about 4th floor
It used to be 100% Touhou. You know the floor that sell you the 2hu mahjong tiles, toranoana vinyl figs, key chains, card holder and etc.

I remember about this because they cleared off all the vinyl fig with half price when I was there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:52:08 2015 No.12962336 >>12962320 But that's a Yuudachi in your pic.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:52:11 2015 No.12962337 >>12962324 Switch Murricans boat with evil creatures from the deep and yeah that's basically what kancolle is about.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:52:44 2015 No.12962339
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>>12962324
It's basically a replay of WWII, except the Japanese ships are fleet girls, and the abyss girls are standing in for the Americans. The same battles play out as they did in the war (except, of course, Japan manages to win them all.)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:52:54 2015 No.12962340 >>12962333 then what are they fighting against? (i don't watch the anime)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:55:42 2015 No.12962344 >>12962336 It's a little known fact that both of them are secretly Ryuko. She becomes Seija when feeling contrary and Yuudachi at night.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:55:58 2015 No.12962345 >>12962339 >(except, of course, Japan manages to win them all.) There are more boatgirls being destroyed in the game than abyss ships. Let that sink in. Not everyone clears the events and even those who do, do it at horrible costs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:56:02 2015 No.12962347 >>12962340 some sort of aliens or whatever

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:58:48 2015 No.12962351 >>12962328 Much like your fad, you haven't been here for very long have you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:59:14 2015 No.12962352 Is there ever anyway for both Touhou and Kancolle to co-exist without making people all butthurt? Like some sort of joint doujin project?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:59:29 2015 No.12962353 File: 111 KB, 600x359, 1416427618383.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12962345 Maybe more fleet girls have sunk than final event bosses, but I'm pretty sure I don't lose six girls for every S rank I get.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:01:05 2015 No.12962357 >>12962352 >Like some sort of joint doujin project? Yeah, they have one twice a year at the Big Sight. Each team brings its own weapons and the winners feast on the entrails of the losers. It's a lot of fun.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:03:24 2015 No.12962362
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>>12962324
Come on, lets be serious here.
Nationalism is the only thing that separate kancolle with other cute girls browser/mobage collection game.

Kancolle appeared at a time when Japan is being bullied by china constantly over territorial dispute, their electronics industry being slaughter by corea, a tanking economy and a depressive shrinking population with no future.
It gave them a huge outlet and to relieve their frustration while fawning their old glory and replaying old fictional WW2 "historical" battle.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:03:51 2015 No.12962363 >>12962357 Everyone know that Flan alone can BTFO every single shipgirl.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:04:40 2015 No.12962364 >>12962363 They keep respawning, it's a real problem sometimes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:05:31 2015 No.12962366 >>12962362 This, which makes the entire Kancolle thing quite sad really. Japan needs to get over WW2 and start getting their shit together. Start by making more babies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:06:15 2015 No.12962367 This is like, GG vs Blazblue, but in this case, the new thing is better kancolle 4lief

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:06:49 2015 No.12962368 >>12962366 How about WW3?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:07:22 2015 No.12962369 >>12962362 >Nationalism is the only thing that separate kancolle with other cute girls browser/mobage collection game. Yeah because it's not like Cinderella Girls is popular, or the Love Live game is popular, or Bahamut.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:08:09 2015 No.12962371 >>12962369 Bahamut is popular?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:08:17 2015 No.12962372 >>12962362 it would have been more fun if the kancolle company had the guts to replace these evil alien ships with actual american ships

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:10:06 2015 No.12962375 >>12962367 You haven't play the game, have you?

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:10:22 2015 No.12962376

>>12962366
>>12962362
Most Kancolle fans are able to take the fact that they got their asses totally beat down in stride. Some of the historical shit is hilarious.

【艦これ】艦娘達の艦隊興亡記【改！】
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyeJzPapFFw

Leyte is a fucking shitshow. It's unreal. And then there's the stuff that just lays down the sentimental melodrama:

【第12回MMD杯本選】艦隊これくしょん　序章～Overture～
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4wLSwQWtEA

Sometimes fun things are just fun.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:11:31 2015 No.12962378 Soo... if shipgirls is historically accurate does that means that in the end they (or will) lost?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:11:58 2015 No.12962380 >>12962372 Why do you want those poor shipgirls to be curbstomped so hard? No-one defeats America and walks away alive. NO-ONE

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:14:37 2015 No.12962386
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>>12962369
Im@s was already one of the biggest franchise in the 00s during the nico boom years.
Both of them actually have music and competent artists behind them with huge commercial potential.
Kancolle was made with freelance literal who no name pixiv artists and run on a toaster DMM server with 50k users capacity.
It actually went on to dominate the doujin scene and the nico contents in 6months time.

I really can't wait to see a study paper on this phenomenon few years down the line.
At least for 2hu, the popularity happened years later after it moved to windows. Kancolle happened overnight.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:15:06 2015 No.12962387 File: 17 KB, 500x400, Accurate_depiction_of_the_First_Lunar_War.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12962380 America even managed to invade the moon. America FUCK YEAH

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:15:44 2015 No.12962390 >>12962371 Wasn't it the first mobage to really take off? Well one of them at least, the anime was really high quality and I think it sold pretty good too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:16:17 2015 No.12962391 >>12962387 that's what burgers like to believe

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:17:24 2015 No.12962394 File: 185 KB, 566x800, 7bbc2976790975445ed58d0f76c28036.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Both Kancolle and Touhou have fairies. Fairies are everywhere. Them fairies man!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:17:31 2015 No.12962396 >>12962386 It was the yakuza m8, it's well known.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:19:12 2015 No.12962398 >>12962390 That is PAD. Bahamut is small time and a dead game I think. Do people even play it anymore?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:19:19 2015 No.12962399 >>12962363 No one can beat the RNG goddess. Checkmate atheists!

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:19:25 2015 No.12962400

>>12962386
Mecha Musume has always been popular though, don't tell me Strike Witches or Busou Shinki are only popular because of nationalism. I mean sure it has an aspect of that but you might as well be saying Touhou is only popular because of nationalism due to the Japanese religion and myth aspects. If it really was just nationalism it wouldn't be popular at all overseas either.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:20:37 2015 No.12962402 >>12962398 I know PAD did stupidly well, but I thought Bahamut did too. The anime budget seemed stupidly high last season, I mean it was comparable to UBW.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:21:16 2015 No.12962404 Does Touhou hijack even mean anything to you guys anymore? Oh, what am I talking about, i'm here since 2014 :^) "le misunderstood geniuses". Touhou = MLP. Same reason both get their own boards.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:21:44 2015 No.12962405 >>12962387 True American doujin game when? >>12962391 You're just jealous

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:22:49 2015 No.12962407 File: 24 KB, 130x130, 1411871682799.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Suck my cock, boatfucker

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:23:15 2015 No.12962408 >>12962402 Because it was made by a GOAT studio comparable to ayylmaotable.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:23:36 2015 No.12962410 >>12962398 Man I wish I could play PaD again... Being a EU with an android is suffering ;_;

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:24:02 2015 No.12962411 >>12962404 crawl back to whatever shithole you come from

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:24:44 2015 No.12962412 >>12962411 Technically, it's /a/, so this almost works.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:25:00 2015 No.12962414 >>12962404 Kill yourself out of /jp/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:25:29 2015 No.12962417 >>12962402 And Kancolle got a shit budget and horrendous 3DCG. So Bahamut > Kancolle in popularity? Is this what you are implying? That said I really don't know hows the Bahamut game doing. You might have to ask /vg/ mobage thread or check 2ch.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:25:39 2015 No.12962418 >>12962411 Back to /jp/ I go.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:26:50 2015 No.12962420
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>>12962399
by definition, RNG is an algorithm and has nothing to do with being actually random or divine. also there are youkai like remi that can manipulate fate, i.e. manipulate the probability of possible outcomes if you think of it in a probabilistic way.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:27:17 2015 No.12962422 >>12962417 I've heard they still rake in millions with Bahamut

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:30:46 2015 No.12962425 >>12962352 only when people start to understand that this board is /jp/ - Otaku Culture and not /th/ - Touhou

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:31:30 2015 No.12962426 I kind of want to play kancolle but I'm too much of a lazy shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:31:44 2015 No.12962427 >>12962425 It should be touhou only

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:35:15 2015 No.12962429 >>12962426 I've played Kancolle for almost a year and just quit yesterday. Too tiresome for me. I don't even like the girls that much.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:36:38 2015 No.12962431 >>12962426 Just watch the anime and funpost in kancolle threads. The show is not that bad

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:37:42 2015 No.12962432 >>12962429 it's a meme game

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:37:42 2015 No.12962433 File: 3.77 MB, 1865x2555, now im going to wait you point out the 1~5 replies threads are touhou.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12962425 Yes we can't discuss anything that isn't related to Touhou.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:38:57 2015 No.12962437 File: 347 KB, 900x900, 1416658960395.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I wonder what our re-birthed as a normie moot would feel about this thread. also kancolle a shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:40:19 2015 No.12962441 >>12962431 Even if I did watch the anime I would still want to play the game.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:41:46 2015 No.12962445

>>12961902
While the multi imagedump shitposting Touhou threads (and that's what the multi Kancolle threads were when they were allowed) are super annoying, you can't really talk about the games, music, written works and derivate works on the same general.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:44:15 2015 No.12962448 >>12962445 Have a single imagedump then

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:48:02 2015 No.12962452 >>12962433 never said that. you clearly misunderstood the point i was making.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:48:20 2015 No.12962453 >>12962402 Bahamut did do well. PAD spawned the puzzle genre on on mobile games, while Bahamut and MA are responsible for the no gameplay genre of mobile games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:48:27 2015 No.12962454 Touhou just has that magical feeling to it that I enjoy. What is your reason for liking Kancolle? And please no "Touhou a shit". That's not a fucking reason.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:49:15 2015 No.12962456 >>12962454 Touhou a shit

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:49:22 2015 No.12962457

I kinda liked Kancolle at the beginning, it was atleast interesting. But I lost interest in most of it. I don't hate it, but I'm slightly dissapointed, how should I say it, fanworks didn't turned out like I hoped. The game was fun in the beginning but now most things would just be work and people I know feel the same, but strangely keep playing. A lot of things weren't ideal at the beginning, half the ships were useless or design wise barely interesting or both. Now they release new ships and kai-nis to keep the interest going, but the gameplay is still not that good.
Music wise I didn't get what I hoped for, a few nice metal remixes would be cool, but each comiket it seems like only 3 albums get uploaded.
Doujin manga wise, it seems to be only porn and gag mangas. I like porn, but there is just a big amount of average kancolle porn and you don't know yet which circles are top notch. And non-H, it feels like every ship is reduced to 1 or 2 jokes that get repeated to death. That is kinda the thing, most girls are defined by a few things, although sometimes interesting how they put ship characteristic to girl design, but apart from that, they are bland.
The anime seems to be average and without background stories, I don't think it has much to work with. I don't know if they go for comedy or serious.
Let's face it, it's a waifu dating sim game. It's a built up to that and it's my fault that I hoped it was something it wasn't. We don't have much kancolle on/jp/, because there is not much we can do. There isn't much lore, pic dump threads fall flat and there is no interest for fanworks here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:49:24 2015 No.12962458 >>12962454 Cute girls and WW2 trivia.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:49:32 2015 No.12962459 Because your game is the Japanese equivalent of a facebook game. What is there to even discuss? Why your generic waifu is better than someone else's?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:50:14 2015 No.12962461 File: 831 KB, 1353x1136, 1388377032128.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Reminder that we are living in a time of stride.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:56:14 2015 No.12962477 >>12962461 Why is Shimakaze so slutty? Would Kancolle be popular, if its poster girl was Fubuki or any other DD?

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:56:43 2015 No.12962480
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/jp/ has long welcomed individual threads for each character, as well as more in depth discussion of the STG games, and matchmaking threads for the fighting games. It's been that way since the start.

I'm not sure you're going to get what you want without the janitors agreeing. You might as well complain that onaholes aren't otaku culture.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:56:52 2015 No.12962482 >>12962459 What is there to discuss in touhou?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:58:06 2015 No.12962487 File: 39 KB, 224x464, kisosankandbecameonewithgensokyo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12962363 leave the ship sinking to the one that actually sinks ships

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:58:28 2015 No.12962489

Touhou is way more fun in every aspect but some Kancolle girls are nice, too. Oceans and ships are relaxing even if they have a military and maybe more dark theme and some of the miniature navy-related stuff that are attached to the ship girls are cute. But apart from that, it is generally a bit plain and boring, plus the game feels like a bother to play sometimes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:58:38 2015 No.12962490 >>12962482 wich 2hu to fuq, it's a science field of it's own. But seriously, there is lots.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:58:56 2015 No.12962491
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>>12962454
It is a nice casual game to unwind while you poke your cute secretary.
Lots of circle that I followed also moved on to kancolle. The official works have been shit though. None of them even come close to 3 fairies manga. Derivative works are ok so far. Some of them are pretty good and pretty enjoyable. The jokes feel newer and not as stale. Maybe I just got sicked of 2hu fanon jokes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:59:17 2015 No.12962492 >>12962490 Like?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 10:01:19 2015 No.12962493 >>12962480 Get on with the times, those are banned know. Fighting games and shmups moved to /vg/ ages ago.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 10:01:19 2015 No.12962494 >>12962491 >It is a nice casual game >casual game Point proven. neo-/jp/ is filled with casual.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 10:02:06 2015 No.12962497 >>12962494 >2015 >neo

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 10:03:18 2015 No.12962499 >>12962494 Not him but I've never played Kancolle. How hard is it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 10:04:06 2015 No.12962501 >>12962494 People grew up and moved up. This isn't 2008 anymore. I have a job now. I can't play PCB at work can't I? I can easily hide a small kancolle window behind my work.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 10:04:07 2015 No.12962502 >>12962499 Easy to play, hard to master.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 10:05:05 2015 No.12962504 >>12962499 RNG/10

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 10:06:02 2015 No.12962506

>>12962492
From stupid crap like powerlevels to actually serious debates about 2hus world views or small character details. You could argue if and how you could kill mokou, what 2hu actually eats humans, what they get from doing it and so on. You can take a quote from the soku serious and end up with that Cirno has an infinitely heating up inside. We discuss all kinds of stuff, from the mundane to the serious. Even if it sometimes is just guessing which 2hu has the cleanest butt or is the best in bed. The thing is, a lot of us care about them 2hus.
I just don't feel the same about kancolle.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 10:06:17 2015 No.12962507 >>12962499 It rewards time spent and patience like your typical press X RPG

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 10:12:43 2015 No.12962517 >>12961902 Just make a thread. Literally just make threads.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 10:13:19 2015 No.12962520 >>12962506 And you think the same doesn't apply to kancolle? It can go from the origin of abyss and shipgirls to WW2 discussions .

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 10:16:33 2015 No.12962528 >>12962517 A general is more fun than having separate threads for different girls.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 10:19:37 2015 No.12962534 >>12962528 Then why isn't there a touhou general?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 10:19:44 2015 No.12962535 >>12962520 Go for it then. See if someone is willing to discuss it with you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 10:25:54 2015 No.12962554 File: 886 KB, 1920x1464, a88d8972368275364eede5671eb1b282.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12962534 /jp/ is Touhou General. You'd think after seven years, you guys would've figured this out by now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 10:26:58 2015 No.12962556 >>12962534 2hu fans only care about their favourite 2hu while admirals care about all their shipgirls.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 10:30:37 2015 No.12962564 >>12962556 >while admirals care about all their shipgirls. Whoa whoa, let's not say such things so boldly, okay? There is a ship limit of 100 for a reason. It encourages you to get rid of the trash.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 10:31:42 2015 No.12962566 >>12962564 It encourages you to buy. Only kuso don't do it.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 10:32:37 2015 No.12962568
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I like both. I liked Touhou more though. Maybe this is the reason:

Between mountains and oceans, i liked mountains more. It's cool, beautiful and autumn color of mountains is my favorite scenery. Gensokyo has a lot of mountain scenery in which i liked. I never was a fan of sea or beaches. It just looked dull to me. But hey, that's what i think.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 10:33:01 2015 No.12962571 >>12962566 kadokawa shill pls

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 10:33:10 2015 No.12962572 >>12962568 Touhous also aren't just tools

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 10:34:58 2015 No.12962576

>As you may know kancolle has gotten bigger than touhou by now.
No, touhou is still one of the biggest. They have just been around much longer and have already been established.

Kancolle is only a recent thing and those who have been doing touhou stuff for the longest want to try something different.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 10:37:27 2015 No.12962584 Kancolle is a meme. It'll die soon enough.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 10:51:36 2015 No.12962628 File: 54 KB, 446x369, 1422325395370.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12962584 >It'll die soon enough.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 10:53:21 2015 No.12962637 I never knew what people saw on Kancolle, then I found out if you destroy a ship a ragged clothes image pops up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 11:06:29 2015 No.12962680 File: 612 KB, 600x848, Suika.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 2hu needs something to compete with 1/1 shipgirls. Suika isn't enough

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 11:07:20 2015 No.12962685 I like kancolle because the girls are designed solely to be fucked, and the fan artists know and indulge in that fact. I bet it was supposed to be a 18+ game originally like a bunch of other DMM stuff.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 11:08:38 2015 No.12962693 File: 698 KB, 500x282, 1395430014006.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ITT: Buttblasted boatfuckers realizing no one outside their general like their shitty game

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 11:16:39 2015 No.12962714 Y'all chillenz need to learn to get along with one another. No sense in fighting and arguing all the time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 11:17:54 2015 No.12962719 File: 51 KB, 640x640, cmhere lil bitch ill rek ur face m8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12962693 take that back faglord NOW

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 11:28:25 2015 No.12962736

Is kancolle merch still mostly graphics from the game put on something? Atleast that was the case 8 months ago. I intended to buy some at the beginning but was turned off after it was essentially just that. To be fair, I didn't really looked around that heavily for it.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 11:28:27 2015 No.12962737

2hu has pretty much no entry barrier when it comes to "getting into it" (>>12956702), so obviously it's going to have a larger and more retarded fanbase since you don't need to play the games to be into 2hu. 2hu is also a long running meme since forever on 4chan. Every board knows what Touhou is.

Kancolle's primary attraction is the game, however. For many people, there are just too many hoops they have to go through to get into the game, and then if they do, they realize that they're way too casual to play a literal lottery simulator, so return back to hating it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 11:31:26 2015 No.12962743 >>12962737 >Kancolle's primary attraction is the game, HAHAHAHA

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 11:35:17 2015 No.12962756 >>12962737 Switch game by girls. Your average nolife jap doesn't care about the game but how hot are the girls.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 11:36:02 2015 No.12962758 File: 354 KB, 550x700, 10_4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12962737 Look at the picture to see kancolles main attraction.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 11:38:16 2015 No.12962764 >>12962737 >Kancolle's primary attraction is the game This is what boatfuckers actually believe.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 11:39:47 2015 No.12962769 It's hilarious how easy it is to steam a couple of Touhou fan.

>>	proREMIRIAt Elite Force Comman(...) !rSDMROXTB. Tue Jan 27 11:48:14 2015 No.12962792 tl;dr I like cute girls.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 11:56:28 2015 No.12962804 >>12962792 pedo scum

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 12:02:43 2015 No.12962827 >>12962758 Why is she dressed as a slut?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 12:12:13 2015 No.12962856 >>12962827 It's erokawaii, dude. Nothing slutty about it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 12:15:00 2015 No.12962865 >>12962856 >Short as fuck skirt >thong >showing her thong and belly everywhere That's the description of a slut.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 12:17:24 2015 No.12962873 >>12962865 >b-b-but she is erokawaii I dont even know that sluts Name, even though I consumed a large number oft hentai doujin related to her.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 12:21:04 2015 No.12962886 >>12962865 No you don't get it, it's so she has less wind resistance and is thus faster. Totally has nothing to do with giving fast access to her holes. Oh who am I kidding. She is a slut, only drawn that way to make perverted otaku dick hard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 12:21:50 2015 No.12962888 >>12962865 I think in Kancolle Canon she's supposed to be kind of autistic and doesn't understand that implications of her getup.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 12:23:55 2015 No.12962893 File: 12 KB, 225x225, 1421873784485.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12962888 Oh so that's why the fanbase is so attracted to her

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 13:05:58 2015 No.12963029 >>12962873 >eating paper

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 13:16:31 2015 No.12963070

>>12961937
Following this theory, I believe that viewing Touhou characters and the sheer existence of the mass of threads provide a calming effect on the people who run this place. They value order and normality, and are constantly seeking calming or soothing concepts and phenomena. What I am trying to say is thus: Touhou reminds them of the late 2000s (and perhaps opening years of the 2010s) when they were underage and in a period of stability and relatively low pressure to succeed. By preserving Touhou and its domination of the board (a mark of that era of /jp/), they can create a closed space where they are still sinless children playing in safe zone free of bullying and judgement. In addition to achieving this safe feeling from cartoon images, they are known to seek it from parental figures, implementing BRs, and by finding an outlet to speak in various other members of different chat channels and forums. In conclusion, the continued domination of Touhou without a doubt stems from an intense desire to indefinitely preserve and protect a time where they could not be hurt of blamed. I realize that such a psychological explanation may seem to come from left-field, but given the people involved, I do not believe that the theory is far-fetched by any stretch of the imagination.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 13:27:11 2015 No.12963096

>>12962223
>Everyone who posted in those threads got banned. They stayed up as honeypots to lure people in and ban them. Like the furry board moot did once.

Neah, I posted some images in a few of the ones for the girls that I liked and actually had images saved of. Didn't get banned for it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 13:28:58 2015 No.12963101 >>12963096 It must have been an oversight.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 13:30:26 2015 No.12963111 >>12963101 Or maybe you were just shitposting and that's why you got banned.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 13:41:28 2015 No.12963137
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if you compare the posts in a kancolle general and a /jp/ funposting thread, you'll notice that the kancolle general mostly consists out of normals and crossboarders who don't even want to bother with /jp/
i think it's pretty obvious since this browser game is mostly japanese exclusive, if you don't know some basic japanese, have no excess to some japanese vpn and didn't win in the entry lottery, there are no titships for you - this isn't a "game" for lazy funposting NEETs

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 13:45:24 2015 No.12963150

>>12962737
>they realize that they're way too casual to play a literal lottery simulator,
>too casual
>lottery simulator
You mean they're not casual enough. Kancolle is the exact definition of a casual game.

Casuals can't into touhou (the main game obviously), whereas just about anyone can play Kancolle and guess what, everyone does in Japan and there's a reason for that. And that's the same reason why games like PAD are so popular there.

There was never millions players of touhou yet STGs alone. And that has nothing to do with popularity of Touhou, it's just the genre that isn't appealing to the masses.

Getting rekt constantly and having to actually improve yourself, as a player, to be able to 1CC (or even 1LC) Lunatic/Extra is actually harder than rolling dices in Kancolle. You can't just sit there, read wikis all days and click on your browser window and pray to the RNG gods to become good. Where's the skill ceiling in Kancolle? It's even below MOBAs... (Granted it requires more than PAD or your average mobile game using a similar system, but that's just how high it goes.)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 13:48:55 2015 No.12963158 File: 430 KB, 750x2880, kantai fortress.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12963150 >kancolle >casual >>12963111 The janny defense force is at full force today, eh. There was another anon just in this thread who got banned too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 13:51:46 2015 No.12963164 >>12963158 >>kancolle >>casual >Millions of players >Hardcore Stay delusional. RNG has nothing to do with a game being hard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 13:54:58 2015 No.12963178 >>12963137 perhaps the same with all generals

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 13:56:36 2015 No.12963182 >>12963164 Only scrubs say it's an RNG game. Git gud first and maybe you will learn how to increase your chances. But I'm talking to a mega-scrub here who can't even win a lottery.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 13:57:51 2015 No.12963190

>>12963158
>The janny defense force is at full force today, eh.
There was another anon just in this thread who got banned too.
And I can guarantee it wasn't just for posting in those threads, unless there was just one specific thread that got fully banned

I posted in several of the threads and started a thread for ヲ myself at some point.

>The janny defense force
Janitors don't ban.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 14:01:33 2015 No.12963204 >>12963137 honestly /jp/ as a whole would benefit from more people that know japanese, but i don't see that happening. it's fucking annoying to get asked for translations and i see why everyone who know japanese would leave sooner or later

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 14:07:05 2015 No.12963217 >>12963204 That's what the pleasure is for, but you faggots started actually translating shit. You've no one to blame but yourselves.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 14:08:00 2015 No.12963218

>>12963204
since /jp/ is some sort of bad futaba-substitute, you would obviously move to futaba if you know japanese and have a japanese vpn, it has at least two touhou boards and probably a kancolle board too
i don't get it why these people want to discuss kancolle exactly here if they could just move to futaba

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 14:09:29 2015 No.12963223 >>12963182 Wait, you are actually defending RNG? I didn't know kankolle fags where this stupid

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 14:13:30 2015 No.12963235

This thread looks very interesting but I don't have the energy to read 200+ replies

I hope that the Janitors get something good out of this thread that helps /jp/ to become better

>>12961902
>penetrated areas even touhou couldn't manage to.
What does this mean, which areas?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 14:14:04 2015 No.12963238 >>12963223 Jokes are hard. (genuine difficulty, not dice rolls)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 14:18:34 2015 No.12963251 >>12963235 Their assholes

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 14:40:47 2015 No.12963332 File: 155 KB, 1060x1500, 447e471505a3ab25c5313ec67188d591.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So, who's your favourite Kanmusu anyway, /jp/?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 14:43:19 2015 No.12963337 >>12963332 Yamato, Hiei, Mutsu, Akatsuki, Amatsukaze, Sendai, Tone, Suzuya, Kumano, I19, I8

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 14:44:26 2015 No.12963340

>>12963182
It's an RNG game.

You can stack the odds in your favor by selecting the right types of ships, sparkling, and by having a stockpile of resources to make multiple attempts. However, in the end the only real controls you have are selecting if you want to fight at night and when you retreat. The dice gods control all else.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 14:46:28 2015 No.12963342 >>12963332 Yuudachi in her kai ni. Taihou is also up in there for me as well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 14:47:10 2015 No.12963345 >>12963332 Kagerou, followed vaguely by Shiranui, Mochizuki, Kikuzuki, Urakaze, Akebono, Imuya, and Kumano. Someone made a Kantaisort a while back but I never bothered to finish it.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 14:54:45 2015 No.12963367 [DELETED]

>>12963340
no u retard
I control the dice gods.
Or are you one of those retard who whine how with the proper equipment and comp you only have 98% chance instead of 100%?
The only random maps are the extra ones, but even then you can tweak your chances significantly with a little brain.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 15:01:53 2015 No.12963393 >>12961995 Ive yet to find a decent kancolle doujin thats not r18

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 15:04:07 2015 No.12963406 >>12963393 Why would you want a doujin that's not R18?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 15:08:23 2015 No.12963423 >>12963406 Why do you want anything that's not R-18?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 15:34:40 2015 No.12963562 File: 514 KB, 587x590, 1415034792485.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12962045 >LL is a fad

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 15:38:11 2015 No.12963579 >>12963562 Back to your containment thread >>>/vg/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 15:43:41 2015 No.12963603 >>12963579 Sudoku yourself

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 15:50:34 2015 No.12963636
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>>12963150
Popular=/=Casual
Have you even played PAD? Like unless you're using max leveled/skilled rare units you can't just casually go through everything. KanColle unless you're going to spend stupid amounts of money requires a lot of time and dedication for prefarming before events to fully clear, that's the complete opposite of casual.

>>12963393
http://exhentai.org/g/687096/e0b386f7e6/
There's plenty of good stuff, most are more lighthearted and stuff like 2hu stuff is as well though.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 16:04:38 2015 No.12963694

>>12963182
So you're just admitting that this is exactly like Pachinko. Guess what in Pachinko you also have to use some skill to put the odds in your favor (controlling how fast balls are falling so you hit spot you want to get bonuses you want.)

This is exactly the same with kancolle, yes you can improve your odds with the right girls/equip, but you still have no control beyond that.

Don't compare that to a game like touhou where the ONLY thing that can prevent you to 1CC/1LC/High Score is yourself. There are no situation where you will "lose" no matter what. All you need is to practice, practice and practice some more.

And stop trying to divide people in two groups, kancolle or touhou. I enjoy both, I see some qualities and flaws in both. Unlike children, adults are able to see more than either white or black. Not everything is shitty about kancolle but don't go on saying it's a hardcore game / not accessible when comparing it to touhou. (which is still baby's first STG, but to an average player, that's already way too hard.)

>>12963636
So now even PAD is hardcore? What the fuck is going on in this board. You're already contradicting yourself by saying "unless you spend money". That alone shows that a game has nothing to do with your own skill anymore.

Are you going to buy a 1LC in a STG? No. You train and it takes YEARS to become very good at the genre. You won't be a good touhou player, you'll be a good STG player eventually and be able to take on harder games like Ketsui and what not.

Regarding time & dedication, there is no set pace at which one should progress in Kancolle (or PAD for that matters), hence why it's casual. Yes you can be a hardcore player and dedicate A LOT of your time into it (you could do the same with the Sims or Farmsville), but it doesn't change the fact that playing 1~2 a day is most likely what many players are doing. Touhou? You won't go far playing 1 hour a day, especially if you're not already a gamer.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 16:11:01 2015 No.12963733 >>12963694 Well, pachinko is more popular than touhou so I guess get rekt faglord. Training for years to beat a shitty shooter is the most autistic thing one can do. It's an even bigger pointless timesink than kancolle could ever be.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 16:11:42 2015 No.12963738

>>12963694
I never said PAD was hardcore. You can play KanColle and PAD casually but to play them at the end level and get all the rewards takes a lot of time and dedication. You can't realistically "pay2win" in KanColle because the prices are so extravagant for resources. Much like how I can play Touhou 2 hours a day, I won't really get anywhere.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's casual. MMOs you can play casually but don't expect to get anywhere near the end game. If you don't know jack shit about what you're talking about you shouldn't talk about it just so you can brag about how superior and how much of a "Real gamer" you are.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 16:29:37 2015 No.12963807

>>12963738
>you can't realistically "pay2win" in KanColle because the prices are so extravagant for resources

You do realize that makes the problem worse, right? By making it so expensive that not everyone can do it, some people can pay more money to win more. If it didn't cost very much, everyone could do it, and the playing field would be leveled.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 16:34:42 2015 No.12963825

>>12963807
well shut the fuck up about how much money you can pay, and look at how much you can avoid to pay. This game can be "cleared" very very quickly and you can keep up to the latest event and maintenance by playing like an hour and half a day. If you think it would be better to have it harder while having cheap pay2win, you can go suck a tree.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 16:38:27 2015 No.12963839 >>12963807 Check out this mad 2hufag faggot who talks like he knows about kancolle. How I pity you for not realizing the incredible size of your bullshit you just spouted.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 17:02:17 2015 No.12963905 Do any of you actually believe you're saying something that hasn't been said a million times before?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 17:14:10 2015 No.12963953 >>12962461 This map always bugs me unless there's a reason why Kancolle is situated so far off the coast.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 17:18:00 2015 No.12963978 >>12963953 There is. Kancolle won.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 17:22:56 2015 No.12964001

>>12963953
>>12963978
Isn't that the three kingdom map? None of them actually won but the successor to red(touhou) seize power from the incumbent and won in the end. Blue suffered because the son took over is a retard and they only got so far by having zhuge liang carrying them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 17:25:41 2015 No.12964020 File: 118 KB, 800x700, 1419268787769.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Shimakaze's uniform looks stupid Girls in Touhou dress modestly

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 17:27:25 2015 No.12964031 Both are awful and communities are even more awful. Therefore either one shouldn' belong in /jp/ in first place.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 17:28:49 2015 No.12964038 >>12964031 ebin

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 17:31:20 2015 No.12964048 File: 228 KB, 850x1200, 2 Girls 2 Pokes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I wonder if /vp/ experiences the same vitriol when someone talks about Digimon or Youkai Watch.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 17:37:31 2015 No.12964082 >>12964020 Girs in 2hu dress like grannies. Get with the times.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 17:47:04 2015 No.12964132 >>12964020 Seriously. She looks like such a slut. What a terrible mascot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 17:49:34 2015 No.12964142 >>12964132 clearly far superior girls like akagi or kongou are the mascots shimakaze a slug

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 17:54:09 2015 No.12964163 Faghou is kill.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 17:57:14 2015 No.12964177
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>>12964020
I actually think it is one of the best and most iconic design that we have in years. Instantly recognizable and actually unique design based on the Z flag. It is a slutty dress that make you think cute.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 17:57:20 2015 No.12964179 >>12964142 Maybe now, but it's to late. Any franchise that even considers their poster girl looking like such a blatant whore is one I'll have no part of.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 17:59:30 2015 No.12964193 >>12964179 Stop being such a tryhard PC feminist. You're just embarrassing yourself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 17:59:51 2015 No.12964194 >>12964177 What? It looks really, really generic and isn't cute at all.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 18:02:28 2015 No.12964220 >>12964193 >feminist Fucking what?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 18:45:14 2015 No.12964424 >>12964194 Yeah, exactly it doesn't compare to the uniqueness of Reimu's shrine maiden outfit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 19:12:37 2015 No.12964534 >>12962352 There's no reason to force "friendship" between fandoms. Touhou is Touhou and Kancolle Kancolle. They have almost nothing in common and to put them together because they're both popular is silly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 19:14:10 2015 No.12964547 >>12964534 It's also just as silly to incite shitstorms over both fanbases under the pretense of "my shit>your shit" like kindergarteners fighting at a playground.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 19:19:30 2015 No.12964573 >>12962556 That's because shipgirls don't have any individual charm, obviously.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 19:35:52 2015 No.12964627

>>12964220
He's probably from /v/. They try and shove SJW things into anything possible to get replies. I had a look around on /v/ for the first time in a while the other day to see what it was like there now, and it's really embarrassing. No idea how people can frequent that place.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 19:48:41 2015 No.12964665 So just post and relax

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 20:06:19 2015 No.12964733 >>12963807 This post. My head.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 20:11:49 2015 No.12964751

>>12961902
This has probably been said until death here but anyway, no one is stopping you from making kancolle threads. It just has a general because it's about the game, just like Touhou games would be discussed in STG generals, which are dead for some reason.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 20:35:31 2015 No.12964829 >>12964751 Very few people actually play Touhou games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 20:44:24 2015 No.12964861 >>12964829 So much for the board that used "secondary" in every possible flandre and okuu thread.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 20:47:54 2015 No.12964879

>>12964829
Give it time. Touhou secondary legions didnt happen over night. It took them years to get to where they are at now.
Gaijins can't into kancolle due to jap onry, VPN and lottery bullshit.
As long as doujin circles and nico MMD keep on making contents, there will be a second popularity boom due to the IOSYS effect.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 20:54:38 2015 No.12964903 >>12964861 >>12964879 I think it's more due to the lack of replay value. There's very little point to play the game once you've beaten it especially since there are many fangames to play. Also there's little to discuss about those games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 20:58:15 2015 No.12964918 >>12964903 >lack of replay value Nigga, are you one of those casuals that only play in normal? If so then get out of my face.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 21:12:36 2015 No.12964975 >>12964177 >It is a slutty dress that make you think whore FTFY. You are blinded my friend.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 21:13:31 2015 No.12964978

>>12964903
>Also there's little to discuss about those games.
There's a ridiculous amount of discussion you can make about Touhou games in respect to the gameplay. 1CCing, pattern learning, score challenges (we used to have them once per thread), replay posting, and so on. I took like 4 months to get tired of Touhou, and it's just because I got lazy. Great memories learning all of Orin's spellcards.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 21:51:30 2015 No.12965129

>>12964918
Why would you waste your time on a below average shmup. The only appeal in 2hu is the music and the prettiness of the patterns. What's with people playing 2hu and acting superior to others when it's one of the most casual shmups there is any mostly comes down to memorization with few exceptions instead of any actual skill.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 21:53:07 2015 No.12965138 So how is the anime?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 21:56:07 2015 No.12965157 >>12965138 It's pretty much Strike Witches with even more boring characters and happening. Dropped after 2 eps

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 22:03:32 2015 No.12965178 >>12965138 Won't be able to tell until the next episode how it will pan out. First two episodes were Strike Witches slice of life with a little action but then things got "dark" on ep 3. Worth checking out if you like mechamusume or SW.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 22:05:01 2015 No.12965184 >>12965178 >how it will panpakapan out fix'd

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 22:10:31 2015 No.12965207

>>12965129
>actual skill
Great buzzword there, depending on how you challenge yourself it can take skill. And competition for the highest scores also requires skills. Or like a NB No UFO 1CC, etc. And who gives a shit if it's not as "hardcore" as your 15th Dodonpachi or Mars Matrix? The poitn is that there is a degree of effort you need to put in to actually get good at it, and as you improve, there will be more and more ways to challenge yourself.
>What's with people playing 2hu and acting superior to others when it's one of the most casual shmups
The point is that you actually give a shit about the series and is willing to play through the games and learn more about the setting, not that you're naturally above secondaries. Stop making shit up just because no one cares about your autism shooting simulators that take thousands of hours to do 1CC ura loops.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 22:11:38 2015 No.12965210 >>12965138 The highlight so far is the OP/ED, 1st cardiv transformation and Atago pubes The action is no good and doesnt get you pumped out Storyboarding and direction is sub par. As expected of a third rate studio.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 22:14:45 2015 No.12965217 >>12965207 So basically anything that's easier than 2hu is casual trash but anything that's harder is hardcore autism pathetic nerd get a life trash. Good to know.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 22:19:19 2015 No.12965228

>>12965210
The 3D animations also look pretty poor. I don't know why they push the ships they do, outside of Fubuki, which despite being the actual mascot wasn't very popular. I don't like Akagi and Naka not being scrapped is a crime against humanity, so maybe I'm just said that there is no Tenryuu hitting things with her sword.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 22:22:14 2015 No.12965234 >>12965217 You now realize how much of a retard you are.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 22:23:51 2015 No.12965236 >>12965217 you tried

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 22:26:39 2015 No.12965242 >>12965234 >>12965236 But it's literally what he said, I know your franchise is declining and all but there's no need to be so defensive and bitter about it. Denial doesn't help anyone in the long run and all you're doing is lying to yourself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 22:30:48 2015 No.12965257 >>12965157 >>12965210 >>12965228 Nice /a/ level commentary.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 22:30:51 2015 No.12965259 >>12965242 >your franchise is declining You meme'd me! Welp, you win there.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 22:34:09 2015 No.12965277

>>12965242
Nice learning comprehension. I never implied games harder or easier than Touhou are bad. And "autism simulator" just refers you need to put a ridiculous amount of effort to get into them, if you didn't notice, not that this trait somehow makes them bad (I played a bunch too after I moved on from Touhou). I simply explained why your comment about "wasting time" with a shmup that isn't as difficult as other ones that exist is stupid.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 22:39:36 2015 No.12965309

>>12965277
You called people who play on normal casuals to me that means any game easier than 2hu on lunatic is also casual. My point is more quit acting so smug about the fact you memorised patterns for a relatively simple shmup. You make yourself look like a tryhard, I don't even enjoy the hardcore shmups either I just think bragging about Touhou and acting so superior to others is pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 22:45:05 2015 No.12965333 >>12965309 >My point is more What is this kindergarten level of argumentation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 22:46:05 2015 No.12965337 I think both sides just need to take a breather and chill out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 22:47:55 2015 No.12965344 File: 33 KB, 300x300, 1422285032654.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why can't hats and boats get along? I am still convinced you guys just have a hateboner for each other and that this can be resolved by hot, steamy, hand holding.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 22:47:57 2015 No.12965345 >>12965309 >You called people who play on normal casuals to me that means any game easier than 2hu on lunatic is also casual. I never did this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 22:49:01 2015 No.12965348 >>12965257 What's the problem? Is this not otaku culture? Is this not why you are here?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 22:49:45 2015 No.12965353 File: 183 KB, 700x900, 47470398_p14.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12965344 It's just shitposting and baiting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 22:51:04 2015 No.12965359 >>12965345 Then don't reply to posts in a chain while ignoring what the other posters were saying.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 23:06:34 2015 No.12965416 I like them both.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 23:15:35 2015 No.12965469 >>12965344 I don't care about Kancolle and I don't hate Touhou either. I'm not stupid enough to rebel about capitalism invading entertainment. It's inevitable and it happens everywhere.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 23:25:24 2015 No.12965515 Does Japanese give a fuck? Or is it just the Western fanbases that shit on each other?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 23:50:16 2015 No.12965616 >>12965515 Most likely just Western shitters.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 23:50:40 2015 No.12965619

>>12965515
Japanese shitposting puts ours to shame.

How do you guys think Kancolle will fare in the next 12 months? A boom from the anime but the community gets shittier by having people who only know the anime? Will the boom end this year and interest will decline to a more stable level? Will there be more clones that fail because they aren't patriotic enough?

Anonymous Wed Jan 28 00:53:57 2015 No.12965835

>>12965619
I certainly will probably forget about it unless they somehow get a game that is not shit (either by allowing doujin games or by making something else entirely)

As of now I haven't played in forever and just occasionally download pics from pixiv

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 28 03:03:42 2015 No.12966284 File: 54 KB, 1024x500, B8a_QeWCcAIZzcZ.jpg large.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 28 03:34:58 2015 No.12966379 >>12965416 u idort

Anonymous Wed Jan 28 04:52:13 2015 No.12966542
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Touwhores were always shit
So the entire concept of autism shooting is already stolen from various other olde arcade games
Zun drew them like a 10 years old would do
Children in frilly clothes and silly hats, seriously?
Touhoe is an un-original badly drawn, animated, edited pure shit

Kancolle is not just original, it also requires plenty of strategy, variety, etc. Its over touhoe fags, your primitive faggotry is done for. I never understood how could anyone like it to start with

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 28 04:59:28 2015 No.12966552 File: 132 KB, 600x847, B4QgOLXCMAADQA2.jpg large.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12966542 Interesting opinion.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 28 06:22:40 2015 No.12966707 >>12966542 I usually don't ask, but why do you only use dots at the end of a sentence when you don't start a new line after? But thanks for sharing your hot opinions and fact based arguments.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 28 06:54:00 2015 No.12966757 >>12965207 >And competition for the highest scores also requires skills. Not in boat shit. It's all about how much time you waste.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 28 08:02:35 2015 No.12966871 File: 81 KB, 1280x800, 1234667111.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12961902

Anonymous Wed Jan 28 08:54:55 2015 No.12966981

The thing about Kancolle is that most of the girls are so generic that everyone just focuses on a tiny group of them: Shimakaze, Yuudachi, Kaga, Akagi, Taihou, whoever just got released (and they almost always get ignored in a week or two), etc

In comparison, even the least popular 2hu's get art and remixes and aren't just drawn by one strange obsessed artist.

Anonymous Wed Jan 28 09:15:49 2015 No.12967044

kancolle already has it's own boards - /a/ and /vg/

you can easily spot the posters from those boards in this thread so I'm not sure why they continue to make the general here because they know they don't fit in and they know they're not welcome. I presume it's just to spite /jp/

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 28 11:28:54 2015 No.12967320 >>12966757 Acquiring this fabled thing known to you pro gamers as "skill" is also about how much time you waste.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 28 18:32:56 2015 No.12968773 >>12965228 I agree, the choice in the cast is pretty retarded. Just feels like it was selected by someone who isn't actually familiar with the series. Reminds me of the Busou Shinki anime. But at least it's not just four girls like that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 28 18:34:05 2015 No.12968778 >>12966981 People talk about Akagi?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 28 18:34:10 2015 No.12968780 >>12966542 Janni???

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 28 18:37:33 2015 No.12968790 >>12968773 Except for the main trio there's nothing wrong with the cast.

Anonymous Wed Jan 28 18:39:37 2015 No.12968800

>>12965210
If I want to get "pumped" I watch fan animations. I came to watch suffering and listen to VAs talk to themselves.

>>12966981
All the art of my favorite ship is basically done by one obsessed artist. Other than that she only gets appearances as part of a full-class set.

>>12967320
Nah, there's also a thing called "talent," which has no applications to Kancolle. A second grader could play Kancolle out of a flowchart.

>>12968790
Miku, Last Order and Poi are great characters

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 28 18:41:45 2015 No.12968806 Surprise, not only Kancolle got bashed like in >>12966824 It's 100% /jp/'s problem.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 28 18:50:01 2015 No.12968830 Who is the main artist in kancolle? The one who did fubuki and akagi and various other posterchild ships? Cause their art is so dull and uncute. There are some nice designs in Kancolle but none of them are by that artist,

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 28 18:53:34 2015 No.12968842 >>12968830 Shibafu drew a lot of the original ships. An expert at drawing ordinary girls.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 28 19:04:09 2015 No.12968883 File: 885 KB, 780x550, 1422453649912.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12968830 Plain is better. At least they're not slutty.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 28 19:06:13 2015 No.12968896 >>12968883 I quite literally would not play the game if this was all it had to offer. The voiceless enemy ships are more interesting than these mooks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 28 19:07:13 2015 No.12968901 >>12968896 Well yeah, half of those are irrelevant DD.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 28 19:20:47 2015 No.12968955 >>12968883 >>12968896 The most popular character right now is drawn by him. Guess which from the picture.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 28 19:26:56 2015 No.12968980 File: 791 KB, 2857x4085, 1422491216034.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12968955

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 03:22:56 2015 No.12970552 >>12968955 Surely it's because of the stats and not looks and voice. People use the ships that have the best stats and due to rarity often ships that are good and available.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 03:53:39 2015 No.12970617 File: 151 KB, 326x326, Js8pdqb - Copy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12963137 >implying normalfags would even try to get into this kind of thing do I need to fun quote you more?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 10:48:17 2015 No.12971449 >>12963218 Because /jp/ is more fun to browse than futaba

Anonymous Thu Jan 29 15:53:40 2015 No.12972361

>>12968883
Ooi is the only one in that picture who manages to be more attractive than a dumpster.

Also, I'm pretty sure you can make any kancolle threads you want in /jp/. It's just easier to make the image dump ones in /e/ or /c/ and the manga/anime ones in /a/. Leaves mainly the general in here.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 18:41:27 2015 No.12972977 >>12972361 Easily get bashed on every thread too, Onii-chan. Thus this thread are made.

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