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Anonymous Fri Jan 23 14:27:07 2015 No.12943795 [Reply] [Original]

BACK TO BACK MOOT'S FAVORITE CHAMPIONSHIPS

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 14:28:27 2015 No.12943802 lol

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 14:28:47 2015 No.12943805 Get out of /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 14:29:17 2015 No.12943810 WEAPONIZED /a/ is moot's favorite!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 14:29:22 2015 No.12943812 xdddddddddddddd

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 14:29:26 2015 No.12943813 but he said that /a/ is the best board...

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 14:29:48 2015 No.12943814 >>12943795 He was just tsundere for /jp/ all along

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 14:31:16 2015 No.12943820 >>12943813 but not his favorite one.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 14:31:34 2015 No.12943825 >>12943813 but /jp/ is his favorite

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 14:32:25 2015 No.12943832 File: 135 KB, 1000x1000, 5bd83bd34.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12943795

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 14:33:04 2015 No.12943834 Get the fuck out of this place

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 14:33:11 2015 No.12943836 we won...

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 14:33:56 2015 No.12943844 >>12943813 /jp/ still his favorite

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 14:36:07 2015 No.12943855 inb4 normalfags flood the board again

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 14:36:52 2015 No.12943858 File: 555 KB, 600x928, 1390452870125.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The irony that /jp/ dislikes him. He should atleast come to the meetups when he is invited.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 14:39:33 2015 No.12943873

>>12943844
I still can't tell if he's serious though. I thought last time he just said that to fuck us over because he knows whoever he said was his favorite would get a massive influx of shitposting.

and this time he didn't even answer directly, he just say "according to what I said at AWA, it's /jp/"

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 14:39:53 2015 No.12943877 File: 1.15 MB, 1280x720, 1420329556481.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Please janny.. Kill all the crossies that will come, it's for the sake of the both of us.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 14:39:58 2015 No.12943878 >>12943858 Wasn't it moot who hosted a /jp/ meetup in Japan that no one went to?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 14:41:05 2015 No.12943884 >>12943858 I would imagine he is still salty as fuck from when /jp/ blew him the fuck out during that train thread

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 14:41:45 2015 No.12943890 >>12943873 He's not duh. He just said it again to fuck with us and be all like "remeber when I fucked you up guys? Ahaha funny old times"

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 14:42:21 2015 No.12943896 >>12943878 >moot who hosted a /jp/ meetup in Japan that no one went to A dozen people met up. They were all fedora wearing shorts and tshirt with socks and sandals faggots. And a few ugly skinny girls.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 14:42:21 2015 No.12943897 File: 1.80 MB, 1603x971, thanks moot.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 14:43:01 2015 No.12943901 File: 392 KB, 757x533, 0417fbd25a570a46c03b1b0236efe004.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12943877 Did someone say SAKE?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 14:44:02 2015 No.12943912 >>12943884 >Salty >blew him the fuck out >LOL Y U A CUCK >>>/b/

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 14:44:52 2015 No.12943916 >>12943855 i have a job and a few friends but i come here anyway and you cant stop me...

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 14:46:10 2015 No.12943924 >>12943858 It's even more ironic because he said that ironically.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 14:56:52 2015 No.12943980 >>12943897 What happened to them?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 14:58:46 2015 No.12943989 >>12943795 Hi never knew about this board but I frequent the "best board" often. What does weaponized a mean? Does that mean that this board is more hostile or something?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 15:06:52 2015 No.12944009 >>12943989 Yeah dude, you should hide before the bullies get you

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 15:07:06 2015 No.12944010

>>12943989
That, too, but I think (at least back in the day) most posters didn't bother to maintain, or accepted the fact that they're not normal and are failures of society. So since everyone was okay with it, the topics got a bit more extreme passion in that sense? Or something?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 15:07:21 2015 No.12944014 >>12943989 It means fucks off.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 15:08:31 2015 No.12944016 >reminder to take it easy

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 15:08:57 2015 No.12944017 >>12943989 They all mean "kill yourself"

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 15:09:23 2015 No.12944021 >>12943989 Imagine /a/ made entirely of elitist faggots.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 15:09:50 2015 No.12944022 I'm going to take it easy m00t!

>>	/vp/ Fri Jan 23 15:10:03 2015 No.12944024 >/jp/'s sticky >take it easy S-say it in Japanese moot! It's just 'Yukkuri shite ne'!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 15:10:21 2015 No.12944029 >>12944016 Something most of the people on this board have forgotten.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 15:10:31 2015 No.12944032 >>12943989 commit sudoku

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 15:11:23 2015 No.12944035 File: 33 KB, 197x188, masira.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] take it easy!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 15:12:05 2015 No.12944039 But I had to study for the upcoming exams.. If moot says soo though..

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 15:12:06 2015 No.12944040 >>12944016 our janiturd must be banned from /j/

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 15:12:06 2015 No.12944042 >>12943795 >>12943813 Both boards stronk.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 15:13:34 2015 No.12944045 >>12944035 i didnt sage!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 15:13:56 2015 No.12944048 Who is /j/?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 15:14:42 2015 No.12944050 >>12944024 Murder yourself out of /jp/ furfag.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 15:15:04 2015 No.12944052 >>12944042 Go away /a/

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 15:16:20 2015 No.12944057 >>12943795 Weaponized /a/ or taking it easy?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 15:18:59 2015 No.12944060 File: 56 KB, 312x284, 1364594232593.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >/jp/ >>>/qa/8317 >>>/qa/8434 >>>/qa/9483

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 15:20:31 2015 No.12944065 >>12944060 That's not /jp/, those are just shitty crossies

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 15:20:42 2015 No.12944067 >>12944057 Weaponise it easy

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 15:21:09 2015 No.12944068 >>12944060 fuk of crossy

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 15:21:53 2015 No.12944069 >>12944067 weaponized easy you must take it easy or you will be uneasy

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 15:22:39 2015 No.12944071 >>12944069 easiness through strength

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 15:22:48 2015 No.12944072 >>12944069 Uneasy anons should die uneasy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 15:25:26 2015 No.12944082 >>12944068 What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 15:32:55 2015 No.12944099 >moot skipped the which 2hu question Unacceptable. I hope he ends up telling us which is favourite Touhou.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 15:34:27 2015 No.12944106 >>12944099 Go back to /a/

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 16:32:10 2015 No.12944296 He collects teacups!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 16:36:47 2015 No.12944312 >>12944296 Is he what you call a teacup otaku?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 16:44:36 2015 No.12944330 >Take it easy is basically my life motto

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 16:47:24 2015 No.12944342 >>12944330 >can't even say it in Japanese

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 16:47:57 2015 No.12944343 File: 132 KB, 533x703, 1325471140647.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12944330

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:02:11 2015 No.12944386 what's so good about this board? all you guys do is talk about touhous all day.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:04:08 2015 No.12944391 File: 32 KB, 250x250, 1420151312006.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12944386 No anon, all they do is get angry at others talking about 2hus then they tell them to go back to /a/ so they can discuss more about 2hus. l2bait.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:06:08 2015 No.12944400 >>12944391 Epic post, now go back to /v/

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:07:09 2015 No.12944403 everything's fine, guys

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:07:54 2015 No.12944406 We won...

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:08:02 2015 No.12944408 Said we can email him if we have concrete suggestions on how to improve. Also apologized for AWA.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:08:05 2015 No.12944409 Moot just confirmed that he loved us.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:08:24 2015 No.12944412 >>12944400 Take it easy. Sorry I'm going back to /v/ ;.;

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:08:24 2015 No.12944413 File: 33 KB, 457x381, 1400154709307.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] He... he apologized A bit fucking late for that

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:09:22 2015 No.12944420 >moot receiving emails about /jp/ being an unstable board >moot said, /jp/ is still fine. Well fuck you moot, thanks for making my day.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:09:25 2015 No.12944421 >>12944413 Hey better late than never

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:10:15 2015 No.12944427 File: 18 KB, 248x250, 1336517134892.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:11:36 2015 No.12944435 >>12944420 /jp/ was a major reason why /q/ was deleted.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:11:48 2015 No.12944437

Finally the shitposting will end.
The grand moot has spoken. He gets the least complaints about /jp/, so we're fine. The vocal minority fails again. (Looking at you alabama.) If something is wrong, email moot! Meanwhile, make quality on-topic posts and report rulebreaking posts.
I wish I could sticky my own posts.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:12:03 2015 No.12944440 File: 116 KB, 428x288, 1380482941876.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] At least he finally apologized.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:13:16 2015 No.12944446 >>12944437 >If something is wrong, email moot! Not anymore.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:14:19 2015 No.12944452 >>12944446 but he literally said to email him

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:15:15 2015 No.12944455

>>12944413

He also admitted he had no idea how to handle this board. which was discussed in the other thread at >>12938446. He seriously at least could've asked. Puddi was the beginning of the end for old /jp/. Hope that the meido who quit is doing well.

>>12944452

He said to email him so he can forward it to the new admins.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:16:22 2015 No.12944461 >>12944437 Obviously we get few mails, the guys who spammed moot's inbox all left /jp/ after 2012~2013. The point isn't that the board is shit now, but that it's dead/peaceful.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:16:35 2015 No.12944462 >>12944452 I'm sorry. I'm too drunk to pay attention now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:16:51 2015 No.12944465 >>12944435 Don't tell me you actually belive that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:17:39 2015 No.12944467 >>12944413 It's the thought that counts.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:18:06 2015 No.12944469 File: 201 KB, 349x525, 1420631278498.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12944452 Yeah, because he's leaving tomorrow. Though guys, moot may be be shit. I don't know, I'm sad he's going away. He's the villaing, but he's our villain.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:20:10 2015 No.12944480 >>12944455 >Hope that the meido who quit is doing well. He made a thread yesterday or two days ago.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:21:18 2015 No.12944481

>>12944455
>He also admitted he had no idea how to handle this board.
That was obvious back when he came here to ask about a name change from Japan/General, decided on Otaku Culture despite protests and just left. I'm not surprised in the least that he's still completely out of the loop.

>>	Saegrimr !SHIELDM.mE Fri Jan 23 17:22:28 2015 No.12944485 File: 157 KB, 857x1210, meido yukkuris.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12944480 Pretty sure he's talking about meido meido.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:23:48 2015 No.12944487

>>12944465

Honestly at this point, I really think he has nothing to hide about the site and although you may disagree with what he says, I really believe he is speaking the truth.

>>12944481

Well, he outright admitted it at least but his neglect didn't serve this board well.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:24:42 2015 No.12944491 >>12944480 I don't see it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:24:57 2015 No.12944493 >>12944469 >He's the villaing, but he's our villain. Nice Stockholm syndrome sucker.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:26:55 2015 No.12944500

>>12944465
You don't remember the countless 'how to fix /jp/ generals which spanned several weeks that were nothing but /a/ crying, the shitposter clique false flagging and every cross-boarder pushing a fundamental board culture shift to accommodate their greentext stories?

It was the reason we experienced that terrible /jp/ phase where this board was moderated with an iron fist. This board for a solid year was completely sterile and devoid of any personality. I'm not even talking about shitposting, every thread was completely dry.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:26:59 2015 No.12944501 take it easy take it easy take it easy shut up moot

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:27:20 2015 No.12944503 Oh bullshit, none of the staff are "us"

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:27:50 2015 No.12944505 >>12944485 >>12944491 >>/jp/thread/S12939770

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>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:28:41 2015 No.12944509 How do you "improve" /jp/ anyway? Remove porn and some other generals. Then? Be softer with "constructive shitposting"?

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:29:05 2015 No.12944512

>>12944420
He said he got way less complains than he used to.

>>12944485
He did. Have a nice day and so on.

>>12944500
>nothing but /a/ crying, the shitposter clique false flagging and every cross-boarder pushing a fundamental board culture shift
What would you say is the worst change that came out of /q/? Everybody says it fucking sucked but often they do it from opposite sides.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:30:16 2015 No.12944518 >>12944413 I'm the one who asked him to apologize and I completely missed it. Anyone know what time it was at?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:30:25 2015 No.12944519 >>12944509 I don't think there's anything more to improve. That disgusting shitposting clique barely exists and cross boarders are still held with disdain. I love the jay!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:31:01 2015 No.12944521 File: 321 KB, 1024x768, washing_machine.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12944493 You'll see when he will actually leave and some random faggot nobody cares about will be on his place.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:31:13 2015 No.12944523 >>12944509 >Remove ... generals. You do realize that nothing but Touhou would be left. >>12944518 ~23 minutes ago from now, do the math

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:32:12 2015 No.12944525 >>12944521 moot is already a random faggot we don't care about. Get out of /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:32:38 2015 No.12944528 >>12944509 Allow neet threads. Those were the best part of /jp/

>>	None !pkzejWGkfw Fri Jan 23 17:32:55 2015 No.12944530 >>12944505 pst

>>	None !pkzejWGkfw Fri Jan 23 17:33:54 2015 No.12944536 >>12944530 What?

>>	None !pkzejWGkfw Fri Jan 23 17:34:35 2015 No.12944539 >>12944536 ?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:35:20 2015 No.12944542 >>12944530 >>12944536 >>12944539 Is this what they call a tripcode otaku?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:35:24 2015 No.12944543 >>12944523 Jav generals have no reason to be on /jp/

>>	None !pkzejWGkfw Fri Jan 23 17:35:45 2015 No.12944544 >>12944539 wanna be my bf?

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:36:00 2015 No.12944546

>>12944512
My second paragraph. For the longest time the moderators pushed towards homogenizing the board to accommodate the /v/ and /a/ style of posting. It probably wasn't their intention but their incredibly diligent moderation pushed that sort of posting.

This probably also isn't a result of /q/, but removing sage kind of took some identity from /jp/ away. This board used sage in it's original intention and in turn enhanced the board's personality. You don't remember the copypasta that was posted every time someone would point out that you're saging out of anger? It was the first sign of a cross boarder and we don't have that anymore.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:36:33 2015 No.12944550

>>12944523

That's not too bad. It hearkens back old /jp/. I do agree with his assessment on generals being really poor chatrooms in general which was allowed via auto-updating. No concrete solution though from him about it and he really gave up on the aspect even though it goes against imageboard culture being an import of western forums.

It's unfortunate but it's the way that it is.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:36:45 2015 No.12944551 >>12944543 And neither do monstergirl threads.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:37:18 2015 No.12944552 >>12944543 JAV generals are to /jp/ as what /jp/ is to 4chan, so I sympathize with them. They don't bother me so I don't want to bother them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:37:29 2015 No.12944555 >>12944528 Neet threads were glorified chatrooms that offered nothing to the board but /r9k/ whinging. Lets not go back.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:38:25 2015 No.12944559

>>12944550
The main issue is that /jp/ is like the only board with generals that don't go off-topic. There's still shitposting sometimes, but nothing that compares with other boards. I would visit the VN thread in /vg/ sometimes and I couldn't take it anymore after some time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:38:59 2015 No.12944563 >>12944546 I miss polite saging. I was so accostumed at seeing 90% of the posts having a blue Anonymous.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:39:09 2015 No.12944565

>>12944543
They tried to come here once, and they were ejected by the people who insisted that /jp/ be a quality oldfag cultural board.

The second time they came, all the people had been so inured to shitposting that nobody cared. You can't complain about the thread being against "/jp/ culture" when retards made /jp/ culture synonymous with "posting dicks to piss off the mods."

>>12944546
>My second paragraph.
I'm not a fan of iron-fisted moderation but I'm even less a fan of what it looked like before. You'd have the retarded shit where anybody who got their post deleted would lawyer up with the whole "you deleted this but not that!" idiocy and go out of their way to shit up "that" until they gave up and decided to enforce the rules as written (which nobody wanted).

I agree that the removal of visible sage was stupid.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:40:31 2015 No.12944572 >>12944543 Well to be fair, where else do they have to go? I'm pretty sure if you post Asian girls or anything related to Japan outside of /jp/ you get told to go back here, even for extremely small and trivial shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:41:11 2015 No.12944575 >>12944563 If it makes you feel better, I still sage the vast majority of my posts

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:41:25 2015 No.12944577 >>12944563 Me too. Sage lost its utility with the catalog, but it was really frustrating to see it go just because the other boards were stupid with it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:41:29 2015 No.12944578 >>12944572 /hc/?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:42:12 2015 No.12944582 >>12944572 /hc/ and /gif/ both have JAV threads

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:42:46 2015 No.12944585 >>12944555 but they were hilarious and the only reason I came to the board

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:42:49 2015 No.12944586 >>12944578 Have you seen the populace in that place I can't blame /jp/sies wanting to talk among /jp/sies

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:43:29 2015 No.12944590 >>12944563 >>12944577 Me too. At least 95% of my posts are saged.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:43:37 2015 No.12944591

>>12944559

That's true but I really wish there was some way to remove their biggest problems. Like fighting over who's thread is used, fragrant rule breaking in the OP posts when it comes to their content and inside the threads, and the enormous amount of tripfags that really equate it as a username.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:43:50 2015 No.12944592

>>12944565
I understand it was necessary but it worried me about the lasting impact it would have on the board. I didn't want to see this place turn into another /a/.
Honestly, it was the rising popularity of Kancolle and the thread wars that would ensue that renewed my faith in this board, if that means anything.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:44:11 2015 No.12944596 Is he still in 1k post?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:45:20 2015 No.12944602 >>12944586 But most of them aren't, they are /b/-tier "sauce???" guys Also they can post NSW there without having to resort to link tricks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:45:27 2015 No.12944603 >>12944586 No. Isn't it just mainly image dumps?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:46:03 2015 No.12944607 File: 17 KB, 287x295, 24906137_p1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] All this meta-posting really makes me happy to see again. It's so great how much everyone cares about, /jp/!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:46:31 2015 No.12944611 What has he said about /jp/ for now? I had to go after he said /jp/ was his fav board.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:46:43 2015 No.12944613

>>12944592
I was happy about it too, I thought it might lead to a spirited revival of interest in doujin culture in /jp/.

Then, like everything else in /jp/, shitposters and mods conspired to ruin it for everyone - shitposters went whole-hog on them until none of them wanted to venture out of the flagship thread, and the mods deleted the compare-and-contrast threads for being "fanbase wars."

Because why would anything good ever happen.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:47:09 2015 No.12944614 >>12944611 Something something he was sorry.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:47:17 2015 No.12944616 >>12944607 I care about you, anon.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:47:18 2015 No.12944617
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>>12944509
We need vending machine generals.

Seriously though, just let it be the way it is now, people will come and go, this shit won't get magically fixed. The content will change with new waves of users, maybe we will get less generals, maybe more. They don't have the staff to enforce those things, just let the community self regulate itself with reports and the janitors following the board rules.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:47:50 2015 No.12944619

>>12944572
The av threads here are completely different from the threads on other boards, even if a certain someone lurks all of them. 4chan as a whole doesn't take kindly to Japan anymore. You almost never see asian threads on any other board, and if you do it's shitty SEA or western stuff. That's just the content; you don't want to know what the posters are like.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:48:27 2015 No.12944624 >>12944611 He was pretended he felt bad for shitting on us.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:49:13 2015 No.12944627

>>12944559
It's probably a lot to do with board speed. /jp/ imo has the optimal posting speed. Not too fast that it declines quality discussion but not too slow that it's a grind. Inherent elitism and complete cultural adherence to board policy also helps as well.
I like how hard /jp/ tries to be a good girl but still messes up every now and then.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:49:57 2015 No.12944629 >>12944627 It's adorable.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:50:02 2015 No.12944630 >>12944617 >We need generals. Fuck off. "We" need specific topics.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:50:17 2015 No.12944632
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>>12944591
>the enormous amount of tripfags that really equate it as a username.
What? The board was filled to the brim with tripfags in the beginning. The amount right now is pretty much nothing.
>fighting over who's thread is used
I hate so much that shit. "Stop posting in this thread, go to your general!", and this is why VN threads got stuck in the general, which would in turn redirect translated titles to /vg/, which would in turn kick off potential discussion. It's not about being an EOP or not, and holy shit if you hate them, you must be a newfag or some bitter elitist, because this board was mostly comprised by peasants in the early years. There would be the occasional Muv-Luv threads but nothing compared to "can shiki kill servants?" or Arc shitposting, or Melty Blood matches, or Currybutt spamming Ciel, etc. And this is coming from a VNG regular poster.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:50:59 2015 No.12944634 File: 521 KB, 2786x1876, 1344463299877.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12944617 I want more train threads. /jp/ needs more train otakus.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:51:29 2015 No.12944636 >>12944630 It was a joke anon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:51:43 2015 No.12944639 >>12944634 Where's the best place to learn more about trains?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:52:10 2015 No.12944640 >>12944602 >>12944603 I don't frequent JAV threads but from a cursory glance in ours they seem to be actually discussing stuff while /hc/'s threads are practically pure image dumps. Then again, it feels like it's the same guys posting in both anyway.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:53:10 2015 No.12944641

>>12944613
I don't think mods conspire to anything and the only reasonably organized shitposter group dissolved a long time ago.
I sort of agree with moot in that generals hurt more than they help. Due to my social retardation I dislike anything that could potentially form a clique.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:53:25 2015 No.12944644 File: 377 KB, 651x921, 1364269588112.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Would you date moot?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:53:33 2015 No.12944645 >>12944636 But there really are vending machine otakus. Not joking. I'd like to see those threads, but not as generals.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:53:40 2015 No.12944646 >>12944617 But change is scary and I don't like it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:53:41 2015 No.12944647 >>12944634 I lurk those without posting. I don't know anything about trains but I love seeings you guys discuss about them. Too bad they die fast. Anyway, how much is he going to keep talking? It's been 4 hours

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:53:44 2015 No.12944649 >>12944639 /n/.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:54:29 2015 No.12944653

>>12944632

I meant those comments in respect to generals I see on other boards. I do agree /jp/'s generals are pretty tame in comparison to other boards' generals.

But in all respects, my opinion aligns with moot's assessment but seeing as I have no power to change anything and moot tried but ultimately failed and just went with the flow, they are here to stay. But I do wish some of the lower quality aspects about them as I mentioned were somehow rectified in some way.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:54:33 2015 No.12944655 >>12944641 I'm glad moot is saying the exact things I have. 4chan is more of a chatroom than a forum, and things are the way they are because of that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:55:06 2015 No.12944658 Somebody explain me what's wrong with EOPs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:55:46 2015 No.12944660 >>12944639 2chan train board is good for pictures. Youtube for everything else. If you can find a model train convention they're always full of friendly people with amazing dioramas.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:56:59 2015 No.12944664 >>12944640 While we're on the subject. Oakland stop making gifs when webms are superior in every way.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:57:23 2015 No.12944668

>>12944632
>"Stop posting in this thread, go to your general!"
Stop letting them get away with this and call them out. This assumes you've made a proper op and the first few posts aren't shitposting. Mods and jans make mistakes you know. Point things out in the thread.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:59:40 2015 No.12944677

>>12944645
I do love vending machines, but I was joking about more generals, I'm not sure if you're >>12944630 but we have too many guys that get angry at certain topics, like generals, to a point where they are shitting the board as much as other shitposters which is pretty sad.

Anyway I wish we could talk about them more though, next time I visit japan I will take some pics and post here.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:01:11 2015 No.12944685

>>12944655
I like reading his personal blog and this article really resonated with me in regards to forum culture.
http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2011/12/why-i-shut-down-the-forums/
You can see a lot of parallels in behavior when it comes to clique-posting in /jp/. Reading this sort of made me understand why things are the way they are in 4chan and why generals needed to have their own containment board.
If you want to see the absolute extreme of a destructive general, look at the Starcraft 2 general on /vg/. It is a sad, sad, sad general.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:02:28 2015 No.12944690

>>12944677
You can make a vending machine thread, but you don't need to make a general. Discussion coming and going is fundamental to imageboard posting.
If you want to post about vending machines every day, go ahead. I don't believe a general is needed.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:06:40 2015 No.12944702 >>12944690 This. I wish more people would do this when they want to talk about things like onaholes, kancolle, idols, and the like.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:07:02 2015 No.12944704 File: 25 KB, 221x221, noreplies.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12944658

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:07:52 2015 No.12944711 >>12944702 I made a thread about an onahole once and several people bullied me because I didn't use the onahole general template. I tried to tell them that I wasn't making a general thread but then they turned it into a general

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:08:01 2015 No.12944713 >>12944704 I don't know what that stands for.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:08:03 2015 No.12944714 File: 383 KB, 1000x1000, 1357022842369.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >not videogames leave this fucking thread you faggots

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:08:30 2015 No.12944717 >>12944658 Nothing. Seriously. It's just a bunch of autists. No one who actually reads VNs cares about them.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:09:22 2015 No.12944720
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>>12944690
>I don't believe a general is needed.
And I agree with you, I don't like seeing the same pictures / subject being posted every single week and OP posts being copy pasted from the last week.
Anyway we have to give time maybe things will change, right now /jp/ is pretty good compared to the other boards and we have to thank for most anons here and the janitors.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:09:40 2015 No.12944723 >>12944690 >>12944702 Oh wow. Someone actually gets it. At least they don't have the "x edition" meme in their OP I guess.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:10:10 2015 No.12944725 >>12944714 /v/ is, like, 15 boards to the left. How did you mess up that badly?

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:11:40 2015 No.12944729
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>>12944725
I'm following so many threads on so many boards right now non, /qa/ thread and moot related in addition to browsing /v/ in general, fuck.

My mistake, I leave you with this.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:11:54 2015 No.12944730

>>12944685
You can't blame it all on the format. Moderation is more important. I know no one is going to read anything from this place but I'm still going to link it.
http://insomnia.ac/commentary/beyond_the_videogame_news_racket/
Skip to "Portals vs. Blogs vs. Forums" and read the rest of the page from there.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:12:54 2015 No.12944733 >>12944713 "english only peasant": one who only play localized vns or uses machine translations

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:13:42 2015 No.12944735 Shouldn't Babymetal general be on /mu/?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:14:45 2015 No.12944738 File: 111 KB, 600x600, 1336984420692.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12944729 >in addition to browsing /v/ in general

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:14:49 2015 No.12944739

>>12944702
>>12944711
I think it's more to do with everyone wants a dedicated board for their interests no matter how niche it is. Generals offer this "mini-board" kind of posting where it's 24/7 discussion you can always lurk/post. The problem is that it's impossible to internally moderate and 4chan moderators don't necessarily have a policy on moderating generals. They treat them like any other thread.
You'd be lucky to have a janitor who just lurks the general in his spare time. The biggest problem with general is that the discussion is localized. You can't just 'make another general', the discussion is forced into this small and as a result you're condemned to share the same posting space with shitposters, social cliques that deteriorate.
It's even worse for janitors and mods because normally they could just delete a thread if it goes wrong. If you delete a general and that sort of 'order' is destroyed. Quickly posters scramble like ants to make a new one and resume shitposting and the posting sub-culture remains.
tl;dr You create a thread, it goes wrong, it gets deleted, start again. You delete a general, they start a new one, nothing gets fixed. You have to pull it out by the roots.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:16:05 2015 No.12944748 File: 44 KB, 800x600, 1419310016195.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12944738 >not discussing videogames on /v/

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:17:36 2015 No.12944752 >>12944735 Why? Idols feel more like /jp/ than anything else.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:18:16 2015 No.12944753 >>12944752 I guess you have a point there.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:19:21 2015 No.12944756 >>12944735 They tried, it didn't work at all. It's bad enough kpop generals are allowed to exist. Idols threads and idol generals in /jp/ are leagues above that trash can in terms of post quality.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:19:54 2015 No.12944759 >>12944748 No shrek, get out.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:19:57 2015 No.12944760 >>12944735 Nip idols are otaku culture no matter how you look at it. >>12944748 /v/ is a horrible board for discussion. It seems like people there cannot comunicate without using memes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:21:01 2015 No.12944764 >>12944739 >not reporting rule-breaking posts This destroys your entire complaint.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:21:19 2015 No.12944766 >>12944735 The problem with asian 3D stuff that can be posted outside of /jp/ is that everyone will go all like "hurr >>/jp/" and those guys instead of explaining why they're there they'll start shitposting like /jp/ers until they get kicked out.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:22:03 2015 No.12944767

/jp/ is almost completely pointless. look at the topics that it was originally created for.

>2hu
>visual novels
>type moon
>key
>pvc

all of those except for 2hu are back on /a/ with mod approval. the only thing left for /jp/ is 2hu, shitposting, and weeaboo crap that snuck in uninvited when the board's name was japan/general and everyone including the mods thought this was the weeb board. how do kusothreads like "japanese train stations" even count as otaku culture? even if you claim you're a train otaku you can like american trains and french trains too. /jp/ is like a dying man clinging to his last possession while rats climb over his body.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:22:32 2015 No.12944768 >>12944729 Yukarin stop tempting me, you know I'm faithful to Ran

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:23:25 2015 No.12944774 >>12944767 I just don't want to go back to /a/. /jp/'s smaller community and speed is way too easy for me to drop it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:23:33 2015 No.12944775 >>12944768 Yukarin a best, I want her to femdom me.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:23:55 2015 No.12944778
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>>12944723
You know, I'll try to make more joke, ephemeral threads tomorrow. Just to give a bit more life to the board. The only issue is that I don't really know what to go for, since Type-Moon is kind of saturated, going for old memes would be too boring, and there are too many touhou threads already. I also don't care about Kancolle. Maybe iM@S or random VN ones? I think what /jp/ needs now, that it's peaceful, is for people to pull it back. It doesn't need to be like before, but a new place. It's like we finally took out almost all parasites from the garden, and all we need now is to grab some seeds and start spreading them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:26:32 2015 No.12944787 >>12944778 Don't even try to make new /jp/ in-jokes because they would get deleted on sight. As you can see the past two years haven't been that productive regarding our board culture due to the strict moderation.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:26:58 2015 No.12944789 >>12944767 I don't see the problem. Who cares if /jp/ is pointless?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:27:21 2015 No.12944790 >>12944778 >joke threads >i'll beat those generals by shitposting

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:31:01 2015 No.12944805 >>12944543 It belongs in a porn board, really, but those boards would never accommodate them properly and sending them there would doom them. They don't bug anyone so they might as well stay.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:32:26 2015 No.12944810

>>12944774
I can't take it easy having to share the board with idolfags and weebs who spam sushi pictures that no one else cares about. if we could have even one thread for anime and jrpgs I would be happy, but it makes me steam knowing that moot and janny allow weeb kusothreads but not the two biggest types of otaku culture. I only come here because I feel like I'm still holding the line moot drew when he made the board 7 years ago and leaving would be giving up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:33:10 2015 No.12944813 >>12944805 Shouldn't have deleted my post. Short version: they aren't porn threads. They're idol threads. The post speed and content don't match the other boards.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:34:32 2015 No.12944817

>>12944790
I don't think you understand what ephemeral joke threads are. I'm talking about the type of threads posted back in 2008~2010, not the off-topic shitposting in 2011~2012.
>>12944787
>As you can see the past two years haven't been that productive regarding our board culture due to the strict moderation.
Well, here's my appeal if a janitor is reading this thread. Please, take it easy. Sure, delete the warosu shitposting since it's off-topic and they're ban evading anyway, but give the board some room to breathe.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:35:32 2015 No.12944819

>>12944810
>if we could have even one thread for anime and jrpgs
You can blame /vg/ for that. We've had them for a long time. And I'm pretty sure you can talk about untranslated JRPGs still. I made a thread back in 2012 I think but it was deleted, though.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:36:17 2015 No.12944820

>>12944789
imagine you live in a house with a bunch of friends. then you and a few of those friends get kicked out and moved into another house. then those friends leave one by one and new people you don't like move in to replace them until you're alone in the new house full of strangers. that's /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:36:18 2015 No.12944821 >>12944817 >green shit is better than brown shit At the end of the day, it's shit. If you want a better board, make better threads.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:37:48 2015 No.12944827 >>12944767 /jp/ still helps me learn jap, it may have not DJT threads like /a/ have, but still.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:40:16 2015 No.12944831 I've never seen idolnerds as some kind of a problem. What's wrong with them?

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:40:17 2015 No.12944832

>>12944641
I'm not alleging that it's a real conspiracy, obviously it's all individuals acting on their own. But the net effect amounts to a conspiracy.

Back when Kancolle was getting started, certain posters made it their mission in life to shit it off the board. They didn't succeed, because the offended posters said "fine, we'll keep ourselves to one thread, happy? now fuck off" and mass reported the spam inside their one thread. I'm not going to say it's the only reason Kancolle general exists but it's definitely a reason why every non-general Kancolle thread went down in flames.

>>12944617
99% of the time "X generals" that were obviously retarded were just passive-aggressive ways for people unhappy with mods to vent. "Too many Touhou threads... I know what'll solve the problem, I'll make a thread for EVERY Touhou, that'll show them," you know, that retarded I'll-disrupt-/jp/-to-prove-a-point thing.

>>12944767
They're all back in /a/ because /jp/ became total shit, not the other way around.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:42:32 2015 No.12944842 >>12944821 No, it's not. It was one of the best things about /jp/ back then. At least it was funny and people actually managed to talk about on-topic things. Unlike 2011 and 2012 with all the cock-sucking shit and spam everywhere.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:43:28 2015 No.12944848 >>12944767 I agree with you in many points, but 2hu needs its own board. /jp/ fits that role just perfect.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:44:52 2015 No.12944855 >>12944842 The fact that you consider the creative energy of a collective of a board's users "joke threads" is a massive insult to 4chan and moot. Go fuck yourself newfag.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:46:38 2015 No.12944865 >>12944855 Calm down, man. I said "joke" threads to differentiate them from the threads that start with walls of text about certain topics. I just didn't know a better way to put them.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:47:48 2015 No.12944867

>>12944819
anime has never been allowed in /jp/. when he made the board moot knew /jp/ posters were better than /a/ posters so to keep /jp/ from becoming a superior version of /a/ he had our jannies delete anime on site. I've even had visual novel threads I've made get deleted just because they used a picture from an anime adaptation for the op.

as for jrpgs I remember they would get deleted for a while, and then a mod posted that gust games were allowed, but janny has no idea what gust is so he deletes just them at random. I remember seeing one thread stay up for days until someone pointed out that it was really for a different game and janny didn't know what he was doing. then it was deleted within minutes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:48:20 2015 No.12944869 >>12944717 But the amount VNs EOP can read are actually tiny compared to what these autists can read? One can say these autists actually read VN, and not EOPs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:48:36 2015 No.12944871 >>12944867 I meant JRPG threads, yes. Should have taken out the anime part.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:50:35 2015 No.12944880 >>12944869 I agree with you, but there's no reason to try to kick them out of this board. That's just stupid because they might as well try to learn japanese at one point and join the discussions.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:50:40 2015 No.12944881

>>12944869
Yes, yes, all VN enthusiasts should eventually learn Japanese and ascend to the promised land so they don't have to eat the shit that shit translators shit on them, but face it, we were all shit-eating EOPs once, and this notion that all new users need to suffer through /vg/ before they're allowed to come to the visual novel board is dumb as shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:52:08 2015 No.12944886 >>12944865 Stay off the archives and lurk by reading every thread for three or four weeks without posting, then you'll know how to behave.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:52:12 2015 No.12944888 >>12944880 If they don't want to learn, or even pretend to learn, kick them out. EOPs huge outpopulate truVN readers by a huge margin, if they don't assimilate the board is just gonna be EOPs. And that thread in /vg/ is created just for them anyway.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:52:18 2015 No.12944889

>>12944817
>I'm talking about the type of threads posted back in 2008~2010, not the off-topic shitposting in 2011~2012.
I know what you mean, we had some funny threads that still managed to have some on-topic value around that time, while 2011-2012 was straight up extreme shitposting from people like Tokiko and the ironic bully meme posters.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:54:43 2015 No.12944897

>>12944881
I'm still an EOP but I don't feel the fucking need to create recommendation threads every fucking days to get my fills, or come to untranslated VN thread and bragging about playing some super oldies or mainstream censored VNs on Steam.

Basically, EOPs are fine if they lurk more.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:56:02 2015 No.12944901

>>12944881
It's just good old fashioned elitism.

>>12944767
/jp/ never had a point, it was a containment board for touhou. It took years before we actually had rules. You can forgive people for making up their own minds as to what counts as "japan/general". Even when they swapped this board's title there were constant "is <x> otaku culture?" posts.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:57:05 2015 No.12944903 >>12944888 >EOPs hugely outpopulate*

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:58:23 2015 No.12944911

>>12944889
This might sound retarded but I despise other boards for re-appropriating /jp/ or even futaba culture. It's the only thing i deeply despise /a/ for.
I don't post anything from futaba for fear of /a/ and /v/ bastardizing. [s4s] I can forgive, they're innocent.

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Anonymous Fri Jan 23 18:59:38 2015 No.12944917

>>12944897
Well, yes. Over half of /jp/ is EOPs (once you include the people who are so shit at Japanese that they're pretty much EOPs) and very few of them are unrepentant shitters, though, so shitting on EOPs in broad strokes is just dumb. It's not like all the dumb F/SN wanking and "why is she in a washing machine" threads weren't good fun back in the day anyway, and all those threads were 95% EOP.

And don't forget all the people who were taking it too easy to do anything with their lives. Starving to death because you couldn't be bothered to go to the grocery store is /jp/ heritage.

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Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:00:15 2015 No.12944922

>>12944886
>Stay off the archives and lurk by reading every thread for three or four weeks without posting, then you'll know how to behave.
Great assumptions, but I already post regularly in a few generals. And you should stop getting so angry over a proposal, this is a fucking metathread after all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:01:19 2015 No.12944925 >>12944917 Old EOPs like Fatefags create original contents by themselves. New age "just get into VNs" EOPs are basically sticking around for VN recommendations.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:01:58 2015 No.12944926 >>12944911 Every time I see some retard on /vg/ posting old /jp/ memes, I just wanna punch them. The other boards bastardize everything they touch.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:02:05 2015 No.12944928 >>12944913 >>12944921 Wow, are you an oldfag? :o

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:03:52 2015 No.12944934

>>12944901
>You can forgive people for making up their own minds as to what counts as "japan/general"
not I can't. weeb kusothreads clearly go against the initial purpose of the board, which like you said was to be a trashcan for 2hu and other assorted topics. their existance is symbolic of the fact that mods have no idea what the board was supposed to be about and abuse their powers to enforce a wrong interpretation.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:04:23 2015 No.12944939 >>12944921 So why are buyfag threads /a/ material?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:04:49 2015 No.12944940 >>12944911 > [s4s] I can forgive, they're innocent. Except they are the biggest fucking thieves out of them all. Even Saegrimr is an guilty of exporting /jp/ coolture.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:05:21 2015 No.12944942

>>12944926
You kicked the EOPs out of /jp/ and they took some of the memes with them. What did you fucking expect? Back in the day /jp took perverse pride in being a net exporter of memes.

>>12944925
Yeah. Because there's no community for him to share it with. Do you want OC for Grisaia no Kajitsu? No, you don't give a shit because you read it ages ago and don't want to hang out with shitters who haven't even finished the series and he should really just fuck off to /vg/.

When the prevailing attitude looks like that, why would anyone even want to contribute?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:05:50 2015 No.12944945 >>12944805 But lets be honest, its not like NEETs have jobs so why would they need a worksafe board? But generally yes, they do no harm and they have done no harm except lots of spoilers previews.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:06:37 2015 No.12944946 >>12944940 They're thieves, but they don't re-appropriate so much as contort and twist it into their own image exclusive to them. Nobody can post in other boards like you can in [s4s] so it's entirely self contained.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:06:45 2015 No.12944948

>>12944939
They aren't. We've occasionally had /fig/ threads in the past years, but no one bothers to make them now.
>>12944925
I understand shitting on the recommendation threads but there's no reason to redirect them to /vn/ when someone comes to the board wanting to discuss a certain VN, that happens to be translated. Last WAB and that Saya thread are typical examples. Also occasional MLA threads.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:07:01 2015 No.12944950 >>12944500 >/a/ crying It was crying because it knew its reign on /jp/ was over. And now it's still crying. Keep crying.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:08:50 2015 No.12944954 >>12944948 I'm actually cool with translated VN discussion thread, but these things are actually more scarce nowadays than "spoonfeed me a VN" threads which I don't like.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:08:57 2015 No.12944955 >>12944939 /jp/ has no money!!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:09:17 2015 No.12944958 >>12944950 You're not implying all the resident shitposters had /a/ as their home board, are you? Because certain groups weren't even from this site, like that Electric Blues guy, since they had a whole forum to plan shitposts on /jp/.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:09:20 2015 No.12944959

>>12944945
Porn/nsfw tends to be lowest common denominator stuff that just turns boards into image dumps.

We already have nsfw boards for almost every facet of nsfw discussion. the original /gif/ is a good example of the difference between a nsfw board and a sfw one.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:09:33 2015 No.12944963

>>12944911
[s4s] is like the worst culprit right now.
Specially since from time to time we get /v/ coming here saying "HEY /jp/ YOU POSTED YOUR MEMES HERE AGAIN PLEASE GET OUT" while it was actually [s4s].

Also yeah, remember when we had daily Japanese Dog threads and warmly enjoyed them before /v/ would steal them and turn them into "doge" threads? And that's just one of the many example.

Icing on the cake is the fact /jp/ suddenly starts hating those very memes because of that like the good hipster it is, even innocent stuff like "Awoo" now is hated here because it's abused by [s4s]

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:11:53 2015 No.12944975

>>12944954
I don't remember the last time I saw a "recommend me a VN" thread that lasted more than fifteen minutes and wasn't utterly shit off the board.

Which is itself not even obviously the smartest choice. It takes the people who, if they came /jp/ in 2009, might have eventually become quality posters, and shunts the entire feed into /vg/.

Yeah, they're not great posters, but you were probably a shitty new poster once upon a time too.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:13:14 2015 No.12944978
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>>12944955
On the contrary, /jp/ have some of the richest posters on the website. They live on cheap studio apartment rent, live on instant noodles and tea and spend all their money on otaku paraphernalia.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:13:47 2015 No.12944981 >>12944975 It's hard for a board to stay respectful of other boards cultures when that board is basically dedicated to ironic mockery of them

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:14:05 2015 No.12944983 Many of you complain, but like moot keeps saying: what would you do to fix the problems you have with /jp/?

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:14:29 2015 No.12944987

>>12944963
The way that /jp/ used to deal with this is that when the old memes diffused into /a/ and /v/ and became popular, /jp/ would declare them old and busted and come up with new epic memes to replace them. It was one of the largest sources of dumb fun in /jp/.

Then memes got banned by everyone and that was the end of everything. But I honestly don't know why you care what the shitters in /v/ get up to in their spare time. We exported "madoka a shit" and "that feel when" to the rest of 4chan, but who the fuck cares?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:15:03 2015 No.12944988 >>12944921 Now that he's gone I hope we can start posting more hot-glue.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:15:34 2015 No.12944992 >>12944963 I'm aware, but unfortunately you can't stop them. It's their boards fundamental existence. They're like the board equivalent to pure chaos. /b/ doesn't even come close.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:15:48 2015 No.12944996 >>12944958 I'm implying the particular shitposters who started the /q/ threads (and then desperately tried to stop them once they went in the exact opposite direction from what they wanted) had /a/ as their home board.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:15:59 2015 No.12944997 >>12944983 Judging from the complaints of most old posters, what needs to happen: Less strict moderation, and users making more threads that aren't touhou/idolm@ster imagedumps or generals.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:16:32 2015 No.12945000 >>12944975 These things don't last long but they pop up more regularly. Also as said, invading the untranslated VN general to talk about their new shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:16:52 2015 No.12945001 >>12944987 We also exported Krautchan spüdrö to unreserved discretion. Sorry Krauts :(

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:17:02 2015 No.12945004 >>12944996 I can agree with that, but then, if I remember correctly, /q/ was a bad existence for almost all boards.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:18:15 2015 No.12945008 >>12944983 let people post anime and video games that appeal to otaku culture

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:18:20 2015 No.12945009 >>12944983 My only recommendation is the dissolution of generals. I don't think they contribute to the board in any way and only isolates discussion which imo is detrimental to healthy imageboard discussion.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:19:24 2015 No.12945016

>>12945000
Well, maybe if /jp/ didn't look like all the VN discussion was confined to two generals new people would be more likely to make threads. Because they have this weird, ass-backwards notion that they shouldn't "shit up the board with a bad thread." /jp/'s so shit it doesn't matter. Go hog wild. No matter how much a newcomer does with his one shit thread it won't even come close to a tenth of a percent of what certain super-shitters have inflicted on the board over the years.

>>12944996
How would you sum up the "/a/ side" and the "/jp/ side" of those arguments?

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:19:26 2015 No.12945017

>>12944983
Easy, hold up on the heavy moderation.

Expand otaku culture back to its maniac definition, not so limiting it as "only japanese" anymore so we have car otaku, gun otaku, tech otaku, stuff like that.

Focus on doujin scene particularly Touhou and VNs and obscure ass contents like jap imperial doujin music.

Still keep anime off da board, unless it's not subbed in anyway..

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:19:27 2015 No.12945018 >>12944997 And the second part isn't something that can be fixed by the 4chan staff. That's a community issue.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:20:35 2015 No.12945022 >>12945018 Less strict moderation can encourage people to post different contents.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:20:51 2015 No.12945023

>>12945017
>Expand otaku culture back to its maniac definition, not so limiting it as "only japanese" anymore so we have car otaku, gun otaku, tech otaku, stuff like that.
No, I'm pretty sure making /jp/ into /aokg/ is not the solution. You could fit half the 4chan boards into /jp/ that way.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:21:56 2015 No.12945030 >>12945016 There are two big VN generals. One is for EOP. One is for untranslated stuff. Newfags should lurk for 10 or 15 minutes to see which's which. That's what I expect of them, I was wrong.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:22:58 2015 No.12945034 >>12945023 Yes, and considering 4chan nowadays is closer to reddit than ye olden 4chan, better to have a 4chan catch all board for people to post their obsessive stuff in, that is otaku culture.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:23:09 2015 No.12945035 >>12945008 The most I'll accept is some video games, and only a small amount. Obscure and niche Japanese titles, mostly untranslated, no fucking Persona or Neptunia shit because that brings /v/tards and /a/utists swarming over.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:23:46 2015 No.12945037 >>12945030 VNTS is not even obviously a "translated visual novel discussion thread" as much as it is a shitting-on-Dovac-and-Fuwanovel all-hands parade (with guest appearances from Ixwreck and Moogy). Lord knows I wouldn't use it to discuss Saya.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:23:55 2015 No.12945040

>>12945016
/a/ side:
-They're mean and "sage" my anime threads
-The board should accommodate my anime threads
-The elitist culture is problematic and needs to be heavily moderated

/jp/ side:
- Ban the shitposter clique, delete their threads.
- Take it easy

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:24:06 2015 No.12945041 >>12945009 Removing generals is pointless. No one uses the index anymore. Seeing the latest posts of each thread was important.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:25:23 2015 No.12945045

>>12945018
Yes. It falls down to the users themselves.
>>12945017
What we need is more doujin/VN threads. Hell, we don't even have the STG general anymore, and it's more on-topic than 90% of the threads around.
>>12945030
We should make our own "EOP general" then, not fucking throw them to /vg/. This would be at least less worse. Also it sucks to have all recent releases condensed into the later. We've had great threads about big titles years ago, but now you're forced to make a small review about it on the VN general. It works for those who only care for that thread and the rest of the board could explode and they wouldn't give a shit, but for anyone else, not so much.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:26:00 2015 No.12945046 >>12945035 Kinda this, I imagine /jp/ as one of those shady small shops in Akihabara that have neat stuff you wouldn't find elsewhere.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:26:08 2015 No.12945047 >>12945037 It has translation in its name, better fucking use it.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:28:30 2015 No.12945057

>>12945040
I don't recall any nontrivial movement to get anime legalized on /jp/ except by exceptional problem shitters like kuroko spammer.

IIRC the vast, vast, vast majority of the threads was basically made of "get rid of the shitposters and blatantly off-topic attention whoring" and people only disagreed on whether having actual rules would help or not (there might have a bit of a new-old split there).

>>12945022
Everybody wants other people to make good threads, but nobody can think of any to make.

>>12945047
Whoop de fucking do, VN General has "VN" in it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:28:48 2015 No.12945059 >>12945047 No, it's a thread about discussing translation updates, translators and companies. There is no essential thread about discussing translated titles other than that Saya thread which is just a random one that someone decided to make.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:29:24 2015 No.12945062 >>12945041 >No one uses the index anymore But I do.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:29:40 2015 No.12945066 >>12945057 But not translated. VNTS has VN and translation in it. So flies should stick to that shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:30:11 2015 No.12945070 >>12945062 Me too, catalog secondaries should go back to /a/

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:30:28 2015 No.12945073

>>12945004
/q/ was the best thing to happen to 4chan. It exposed the staff as unresponsive arrogant retards out of touch with their communities. It exposed the self-appointed board militia as vitriolic shitposters only caring about claiming ownership to boards and threads. We kinda knew that already, but never before was it so plain to see. It might have hurt to have our eyes opened, but it was necessary.

And it literally saved /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:30:53 2015 No.12945074 >>12945059 Oh, so maybe they should stick to /vg/. It's like /a/ discussing Naruto, but I guess /a/ does discuss Naruto nowadays, what a disgrace.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:31:31 2015 No.12945080

>>12945066
It doesn't have "untranslated" in it. I don't know why you've got such a stick up your ass about the fact that the way /jp/ is set up suggests that even a somewhat non-retarded newcomer might accidentally consider that VN General is the right place for his dumb question. Because that's how it is. I'm not fucking endorsing it.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:33:03 2015 No.12945084

>>12945074
>Oh, so maybe they should stick to /vg/.
Like the JRPG threads. Like the STG threads. Like how it almost happened with GUST threads (which required fucking mod intervention to stop the retarded board police). And so it goes. /vg/ was one of the worst things to happen to /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:33:07 2015 No.12945085 >>12945074 Why are you acting like /jp/ is literally only for Japanese-speaking people to discuss untranslated visual novels? /jp/ has never in its history been less than half EOP, and in its first years that number was probably upwards of 90%.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:34:29 2015 No.12945090 File: 118 KB, 363x311, 1334915284388.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How much longer does moot plan on talking? I just tuned in.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:34:29 2015 No.12945091

>>12945080
I just think it's fucking stupid people don't put two and two together.

We have a normal VN thread full of typing in japanese, and one thread full of English with the title "Visual Novel Translation Status", yes, better post about translated VN in the thread without the obvious mention of translation.

And yes the VN general guys are fucking dumb too for not renaming it "untranslated VN general" sometimes ago.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:34:57 2015 No.12945094

>>12945023
>You could fit half the 4chan boards into /jp/ that way.
stg - /v/
j dramas - /tv/
idols - /mu/
tea and jap food - /ck/
jav - /s/

>>12945035
>that brings /v/tards and /a/utists swarming over.
but /jp/ was /a/ to begin with. anime is our birthright.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:35:42 2015 No.12945096 >>12945090 In the beginning he said that he probably won't even talk for 4 hours. I think he'll talk until youtube won't let him anymore.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:35:46 2015 No.12945097 >>12945090 He can go all day now, he's NEET now. A disgusting /a/ poster whose NEET, but still NEET.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:36:13 2015 No.12945098 >>12945091 What they honestly should do is just make a new thread. >>12945094 Don't forget about Touhou to /vg/.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:36:23 2015 No.12945099

>>12945084
>JRPG
I have no strong feeling about them unless they are untranslated. They can go for all I care.
>>12945085
/jp/ being the place to discuss untranslated stuff is one (of many things) I like about it, its EOP past aside, we should strive to improve, not devolving.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:36:37 2015 No.12945100 >>12945090 My guess he'd going to at least finish the first sticky and then quickskip the rest.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:36:39 2015 No.12945101

>>12945090
he actually feels emotional about leaving because he is now famous from making this website as well as traveled the world because of it

I have been sitting at home like a worthless piece of shit browsing his site for 10 years now and I only hope it dies along with his departure

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:36:54 2015 No.12945102

>>12945091
Just because it's a more sensible option doesn't mean it's still the right place. Someone should just make a translated thread anyway. Or make occasional VN threads, which does happen but it doesn't lead to many places since most people who try to make them, end up asking for recs, and the others post on VN general.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:36:54 2015 No.12945103 >>12945096 Last time moot talked until he went hoarse. Then kept talking. So you're probably right. He mentioned eight hours a few times. I might have to clock out and wait for the transcript with good questions and timestamps.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:37:40 2015 No.12945104

>>12945094
Actually it was the segregation that implied we're not anime.
We're something more than anime, we encompass so much more than /a/. /a/'s not even on the same level as us. They're unwashed masses clinging to a shitty entertainment medium compared to /jp/'s huge array of music, art, culture, geography, photography, toys, electronics and software.
I am proud of /jp/!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:38:36 2015 No.12945108 >>12945085 He's drawing parallels to the more familiar (to him) subject of /a/. That should answer your question.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:39:17 2015 No.12945112 >>12945104 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpV7eS4IrgA

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:39:48 2015 No.12945113

>>12945099
It will always be a place to discuss untranslated shit. VN General ain't fucking going anywhere.

The issue for me personally is that it really feels like /jp/ built up this fun culture (back when most people were shit-eating EOPs) that was welcoming as long as you didn't act like too much of a retard - and now it's a community full of experts who've pulled up the ladder and declared "you must be this much of an expert to post." Sure, it's good to be an expert, but you shouldn't have to be one; it should be enough to not be a retard. Devouring their young and all that.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:41:43 2015 No.12945120

>>12944983

Really the main problem with /jp/ has always, since day one, been its lack of a clear focus. That's the root of all its problems.

The fix is to either lay down solid content guidelines and enforce them or to let the community self regulate. The first method was kind of tried in the post-/q/ fallout, but it was really half-assed and didn't really work. So that's out.

The second requires a lot of prudence and restraint from both the administrative staff and the userbase itself. Basically, both the janitors and the posters need to be a bit more flexible in terms of letting things slide. We've all just got to to take it a little bit more easy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:42:15 2015 No.12945125 >>12945113 Fun culture is only fun if people are fun. Asking for rec isn't really fun. And really, I don't see any newfags not acting like retards anyway. Retards become more retarded each year, even education got standard too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:42:19 2015 No.12945126 it's not sage it's sage

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:42:58 2015 No.12945128

>>12945104
I really hope you're not ironic because I still agree with you even if you switch all those nouns to otaku culture equivalents. But I don't think letting anime here would make sense, the third biggest board in the website is all about anime. It's more redundant than any other subject. And if you pick an example like /v/, probably only 1% of their population understand japanese, so it makes sense to discuss untranslated titles here.
>>12945099
>I have no strong feeling about them unless they are untranslated. They can go for all I care.
Shame no one makes those threads then. Maybe if someone made a Sen 2 thread, I wonder if people would have posted there.
>>12945113
>and now it's a community full of experts who've pulled up the ladder and declared "you must be this much of an expert to post." Sure, it's good to be an expert, but you shouldn't have to be one; it should be enough to not be a retard. Devouring their young and all that.
Not a big one, but still one of the reasons this board is so empty.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:44:14 2015 No.12945134 File: 49 KB, 411x548, 1311696599878.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12945112 good stuff

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:44:37 2015 No.12945137 >>12945125 Rec threads were kind of amusing back when people would troll newcomers with the most fanciful shit (mixed with the occasional singular piece of decent advice), but then /jp/ got "too mature" for all that horsing around.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:48:30 2015 No.12945144

>>12944735
As a Babymetal general regular I'd like to apologise for our shitty behaviour sometimes. Unfortunately we do get trolled just too easily by a couple of shitposters with an illusion of grandeur. I'd like to think that those are just our infancy issues and thank mods for keeping the shitposters in check.

But as other responders said, Babymetal general would absolutely not work on /mu/. Personally I don't even understand how /mu/ works for anyone at all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:48:38 2015 No.12945145 >>12945137 Really, I wish we still did that. Some of the recent rec thread has people spoonfeeding, which is fucking cancerous. Either make fun of them or leave them alone, do not encourage them.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:49:04 2015 No.12945147
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>>12945128
I wasn't ironic at all. /jp/ trumps /a/ in every aspect because of it's breadth of discussion.
The fact this thread exists discussion the many facets of /jp/ (trains, vending machines, VN's, doujins, shitposting) exemplifies how unique of a board this is. It's probably why so many people vehemently defend /jp/ against cross boarders. It's why we have official /jp/ heritage threads. The fact we can walk this fine balance between fun discussion of trivial things and serious discussion of trivial things is what makes this board great and moot knows this.
This board succeeded where most "containment boards" failed.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:50:37 2015 No.12945152 >>12944978 Is this me?

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>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:51:00 2015 No.12945155 moot is best idol there's your answer

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:51:20 2015 No.12945157 >>12945128 Another good reason for pulling untranslated games is there's no way they could survive on /v/ either it gets pushed off due to the speed or it gets spammed with HURR WEEBSHIT and gets deleted

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:51:55 2015 No.12945159 >>12945144 /mu/ works on a flavor of the month basis. Whatever stays beyond that becomes a universal meme or is a benign brain tumor (kpop) that would kill the board if you were to attempt to remove it.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:52:31 2015 No.12945161

>>12945145
>fucking cancerous.
People use this word too easily. You know what is not - and has not - been a "cancer kililng /jp/" for over five years? Too many people who played Ever17 and unironically thought it was the greatest shit ever. These people are pretty much an endangered species.

>Either make fun of them or leave them alone, do not encourage them.
I think it's fine if all of it appears together.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:53:25 2015 No.12945165

>>12945098
Wouldn't Touhou go to /v/? I know, who the fuck wants to touch that piece of shit, but last time I looked around there they seemed to have a Touhou general. Unless this has changed and they don't do that anyone, I don't know. I'm pretty surprised it was there considering here's /jp/ and /v/ fucking hates anything even slightly related to Japan.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:54:45 2015 No.12945170 >>12945161 If you encourage them, they spread and multiply and newfags outpopulate oldfags so yes, it's literally some form of growing cancer destroying the self.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:55:22 2015 No.12945173 >>12945165 /v/ has 2hu threads every day apparently, mostly just Soku netplay

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:55:26 2015 No.12945174 >>12945165 the touhou threads on /v/ are crossboarders that just copy /jp/ jokes and posting styles I'm serious half of them post ``awoooo'' and think it's an original thing /v/ created

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:55:40 2015 No.12945175

>>12945165
/v/ already creates regular threads of the Touhou fighters. Touhou would actually be better suited to /vr/ but the discussion is redirected to /jp/ and /vg/ had a schmup/bullet hell general that died over time.
Touhou for better or worse stays here because it's culture has spread beyond the games. Sort of similar to Pokemon but not as extreme.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:55:51 2015 No.12945177

>>12945120
The problem with "letting the community self-regulate" is that the loudest idiot with the most time on his hands will always win. /jp/ had its halcyon days because at first those people left us alone to play with /a/ after moot handed it to them on a silver platter, but it was never bound to last.

A certain website whose name I can't post has the right idea (too bad it doesn't quite have the userbase to make use of it). Don't force people into boards, let them organize themselves into ones. Don't force moderation on them, let them choose the moderation they like. 4chan's format is fundamentally broken in that aspect.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:56:23 2015 No.12945181

>>12945128
>the third biggest board in the website is all about anime.
so what? /vg/ is huge but we're still allowed to have visual novel threads. anime is otaku culture. excluding it makes no sense at all. allow it, change the board name, or accept that you're being completely arbitrary.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:57:05 2015 No.12945185 >>12945170 What the fuck do you think the first-post-date distribution of /jp/ even is?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:58:20 2015 No.12945190 >>12945181 The board name has fuck-all to do with anything., it's basically something moot drew it from a hat in a drunken stupor. Using it to justify anything is retard's play.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:59:57 2015 No.12945196

>>12945181
>excluding it makes no sense at all.
To you maybe. There is a board for anime, go use that board. Even otaku on futaba or 2channel understand this concept yet there are people on 4chan who don't understand this concept. Probably because it's users don't read the rules. "diverse niche Japanese interests". Anime is not niche, it's the opposite.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:00:32 2015 No.12945200 >>12945185 /jp/ can be fast, if the mods allow it, which is kind of a good thing and bad thing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:00:55 2015 No.12945202 >>12945190 the name issue is just demonstrative of the main problem with the board. if "otaku culture" isn't appropriate then what is the board actually for? if you can't answer that question then why does it exist?

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:03:04 2015 No.12945212

>>12945202
light and visual novels, figures and other otaku paraphernalia, Touhou Project, Vocaloid, doujin works and music, and diverse niche Japanese interests (kigurumi, idols, mahjong, tea).

or, Japanese media culture that doesn't already have a board dedicated to it.

or, more casually, /a/'s trash can.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:03:57 2015 No.12945214 >>12945196 there's a board for music so why don't idolfags go there? there's a board for trains so why doesn't train station autist go there? live action tv is way more mainstream than anime so why are dramas allowed?

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:04:14 2015 No.12945217
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>>12945202
How about you read the rules? Notice how specifically it says "WITHOUT an anime adaptation"? This states that something that could even potentially pertain to anime discussion is not allowed.
Even IF it's a VN, if it has an anime, it's not counted as /jp/ material. This is very easy guideline to follow and i'm sorry you can make /jp/ your anime club. You're gonna have to share a thread with the /a/ plebeians.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:04:20 2015 No.12945218 >>12945212 >other otaku paraphernalia This means everything ever. I wish my gun otaku thread get more interests.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:05:56 2015 No.12945223

>>12945217
>Even IF it's a VN, if it has an anime, it's not counted as /jp/ material.
No, that's only for LNs. This rule was made to make sure the 2012 shitposters stopped creating threads complaining about how they couldn't post their index, chuunibyou and naruto LN threads.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:06:30 2015 No.12945226 >>12945217 >translated visual novels are fine on either board. Oh boy.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:06:45 2015 No.12945227

>>12945218
Look, we all know what it's fucking supposed to mean, it means the kind of shit you could buy from Toranoana or Animate or whatever. There's no need to lawyer up the rules just because it's not explicitly spelled out - everybody already knows what they're referring to.

I feel like I'm arguing with kuroko spammer all over again.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:07:16 2015 No.12945232

/b/ was his favourite board, it's just not a popular opinion so he didn't mention it. And /jp/ is kind of like /b/ at times so there's that...

He only mentioned /a/ because it's the board that gives him the most J-list referral money.
/a/ was his main source of income for quite a while.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:07:48 2015 No.12945234

>>12945214
Because:
- It's allowed here and always has been.
- It is also allowed on /mu/ because it's not specified. kpop is already a general on /mu/.
- They do, both subjects both fall under both board categories.
- Japanese/Korean dramas are also discussed on /tv/, specifically j-drama is allowed on /jp/.

Anime for all extensive purposes is specifically prohibited from /jp/ because segregation from anime is the reason for /jp/'s existence.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:07:54 2015 No.12945235 >>12945227 I'm going with the broader maniac definition here.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:09:15 2015 No.12945241 >>12945223 Sorry, I actually did mean LN. Point remains, this rules is very specific in what can and can't be discussed. These rules were specifically tailored to this board as a result of /q/.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:10:13 2015 No.12945245

>>12945202
There's no catch-all term, but most of the board is about various (but specific) forms of Japanese media and niches. "Otaku Culture" is kind of close but still misleading.

/jp/ exists for /jp/ things. Thanks to our directionless roots, if people like talking about something, it's relevant.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:10:47 2015 No.12945249

>>12945235
Yes, that's definitely one of the definitions (and possibly a more accurate definition from a linguistic perspective), but that's not how it's being used in the rules - because there's a general understanding by staff and users alike that it means what I've just said above.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:12:12 2015 No.12945257 >>12945235 Good thing we use the definition imposed by the staff and not a loose, verbal diaphragm that was exactly the reason why 2011-2012 was one of the worst periods for /jp/.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:15:05 2015 No.12945262

>>12945177
There still needs to be moderation, of course, but it should primarily be reactive, not proactive. It should respond to reports instead of constantly scanning for things to can. It should also be intelligent enough to know when it's just some small clique report spamming something they don't agree with. And of course the rest of us need to be responsible and not abuse the report function because the other poster masturbates to the wrong touhou or whatever.

>Don't force people into boards, let them organize themselves into ones
And then we end up with shit like general threads: self-contained circlejerks.
Forcing people into boards makes things interesting because it forces different people to mix when they probably never would've otherwise.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:20:30 2015 No.12945286

>>12945227
can you buy shitty nip food from animate? can you buy train stations at comiket?

>>12945234
it's completely retarded that /a/ can talk about visual novels with anime adaptations, but /jp/ can't talk about animes based on visual novels. every other example given can be discussed on either board. /jp/ is the only one with one way restrictions.

>segregation from anime is the reason for /jp/'s existence
no /jp/ was created to get things off of /a/. there's no reason you can't have anime on /jp/ other than moot being afraid of /jp/ becoming a superior /a/ and coming up with arbitrary, impossible to follow rules to stop it from happening. if we could have a simple rule that /jp/ is for any otaku subjects with no arbitrary exceptions it would be 100 times easier for posters to understand what they're allowed to post and for janny to clean up after.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:24:00 2015 No.12945299

>>12945286
Those are obviously falling under some other clause (though the shitty nip food thread could honestly go). You can't buy AKB members at Comiket, either.

>moot being afraid of /jp/ becoming a superior /a/
What the fuck are you smoking? A whole fuck lot of /jp/ posters didn't want /jp/ to become "a superior /a/," they didn't want it to be an /a/ at all. Christ.

>100 times easier for posters to understand what they're allowed to post
There isn't anyone alive who's too dumb to understand the concept of "don't post anime in /jp/." There are obstinate shitters who refuse to accept it - but they understand it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:27:00 2015 No.12945308 >>12945249 >>12945257 I support the maniac definition. Operation Otaku Freedom.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:29:00 2015 No.12945316

>>12945299
>A whole fuck lot of /jp/ posters didn't want /jp/ to become "a superior /a/," they didn't want it to be an /a/ at all.
where were they? the initial reaction to /jp/ being made was overwhelmingly negative.

anime was forbidden because if it was allowed 90% of /a/ would have migrated to /jp/ and left /a/ with only the people who couldn't handle a few dozen underwaterrayromano threads.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:30:57 2015 No.12945326 He's going the full 8 hours. 1.5 hours remaining.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:32:09 2015 No.12945332
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>>12945165
>and /v/ fucking hates anything even slightly related to Japan.

Small minority that do not represent the real /v/ posters.

It's fun to make them even more butthurt by posting literally any kind of anime reaction image, it sends them into a frenzy.

Also I've noticed Chaika is hugely popular on /v/ and /vg/ for some reason.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:34:17 2015 No.12945338 >>12945332 >Also I've noticed Chaika is hugely popular on /v/ and /vg/ for some reason. Chaika is the classical seasonal memegirl

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Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:35:27 2015 No.12945345

I wouldn't mind anime discussion so long as it was kept generalized. Like about threads about the direction of the industry or for certain genres/eras. The problem is when you get too specific and have threads about specific shows or specific episodes and stuff like that. When that happens, you'd crowd out all the other topics on the board.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:36:34 2015 No.12945354 >>12945345 I want sion threads back. they always got deleted before I could discuss things.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:37:58 2015 No.12945364

>>12945316
>anime was forbidden because if it was allowed 90% of /a/ would have migrated to /jp/
This is correct. However, this was only out of the desire to keep the old /a/ intact. I don't think many people wanted anime on /jp/ once they recognized the fact that the old /a/ is unsalvagable and /jp/ is going to be a new separate board.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:39:21 2015 No.12945372 File: 139 KB, 325x492, No, Sion.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12945354

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:40:17 2015 No.12945379 >>12945354 Make them then, just don't spam

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:46:15 2015 No.12945399
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>>12945345
I agree. We could have anime general once a week/month/season so that everyone could catch up with that shit. Of course, we can't call it "anime general" because that would attract wrong kind of people.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:48:57 2015 No.12945411 >>12945345 I don't see the problem with discussing anime in general, but there's no point in having threads for specific anime here when /a/ exists.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:54:21 2015 No.12945434 who will i blame when i get bullied now????

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:55:28 2015 No.12945442 >too hue

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:57:07 2015 No.12945447 >>12945434 Jews Sion

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 21:02:34 2015 No.12945467 >>12945442 Yeah, that's alphes' art

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 21:17:56 2015 No.12945531

You guys accused other boards for bastardizing your memes while also admitted to using memes from other boards. Also, the nature of memes is that if it's funny enough it will get popularized and run into the ground. This happens to the ones from other boards too, so what makes you think you are such special snowflakes?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 21:21:13 2015 No.12945544 >>12945531 >while also admitted to using memes from other boards wait when Also it's fun as long the meme stays the same but ours for some reason get more distorted than whatever I'm too tired to make a joke.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 21:29:53 2015 No.12945567 File: 150 KB, 500x333, RENFE Class 450.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12944634 A cute double decker train.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 22:30:58 2015 No.12945814 >>12945544 See >>12945001 for example, and the ＞tfw thing, and plenty of 2ch memes. To be honest, I don't really care where the meme's from or who made it, if it's fun then it's fun. It's the execution and content that matter the most.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 23:45:58 2015 No.12946074 /jp/ is basically a board about proper posting etiquette.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 07:31:18 2015 No.12947293 >>12945814 >It's the execution and content that matter the most. Compare japanese dog and doge and tell me which one is more retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 16:19:01 2015 No.12948639 >>12944730 >no one read it

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