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Anonymous Tue Dec 23 00:45:00 2014 No.12824170 [Reply] [Original]

http://www.tasofro.net/touhou145/index.html

HAPPENING.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 00:50:39 2014 No.12824192 HELL YEAH

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 01:08:42 2014 No.12824228 File: 1.14 MB, 1800x1312, 47680398_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So we will have urban legend touhous now?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 01:21:30 2014 No.12824245 Mima!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 01:22:24 2014 No.12824248 >>12824245 No. This will be a Youmu centered game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 01:26:28 2014 No.12824259 So is this a fighting game or what

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 02:05:52 2014 No.12824340 >Dec, 29 (C87) Demo out YES! You made my day tasogare

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 02:23:35 2014 No.12824384 MY ENTIRE SKELETON IS RINGING

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 02:39:20 2014 No.12824420 File: 840 KB, 890x1494, 47496149_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12824228 Classical youkai are very weak in the modern world. Urban legends are more and more popular. So, maybe we will see urban legend Touhous.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 03:00:20 2014 No.12824485

Story summary:

>There has been a widespread of bizarre rumors in the Human Village.
>"A dog with a human face is collecting composts"
>"I know a man who saw an old lady selling her legs"

>Those absurd rumors are all becoming a hot topic and the kids are engulfed in fear.
Unlike Youkai who's their sole duty is to attack humans, This rumor is very omnious and nobody knows who is behind it.
In order to prevent harm, the adults are saying to their kids that it's only mere nonsense.

>Of course, the girls knows no fear.
Because they know that this is what the outside world called "A made up urban legend".

>There's an interesting characteristics in an urban legend
Just as the word of mouth changes as it passes around as rumors, these anomality changes in the same manner.

>Reimu and the others need to attain the rumors they discovered and use it like a strange plaything.
>When they fearlessly control those rumors, The strangeness before them becomes harmless.
>Or rather, it can become their very source of strength.
>If they can control the Urban Legend, they believe it's a necessity as to prevent a disaster from happening.

>That's what they believe. Until that night...

Looks like it will be a fightan.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 03:02:53 2014 No.12824491 File: 12 KB, 500x500, 1419321773221.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12824485 GEE, I WONDER WHO COULD BE BEHIND THIS...

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 03:26:20 2014 No.12824558 File: 22 KB, 391x400, 1419323180302.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12824491

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 03:38:15 2014 No.12824580 >>12824485 Sounds like the final boss will be a youkai who can control rumors.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 03:49:12 2014 No.12824595 >>12824580 Hitler was a youkai all along?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 04:24:48 2014 No.12824669 File: 150 KB, 512x512, Warakia1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12824580 So Uncle Wally?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 04:30:24 2014 No.12824685 File: 1.04 MB, 1200x1600, 八雲紫_2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tasofro boring fighthus incoming and i thought the next 2hu would be an actual video game...

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 04:30:36 2014 No.12824686 File: 107 KB, 650x918, 1bb274cb87be4a8859b727b05b229ca3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Green ghost! Mima confirmed!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 04:35:36 2014 No.12824695 File: 282 KB, 800x617, 912736.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12824485 So it's basically Persona 2.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 05:02:50 2014 No.12824749 File: 69 KB, 441x423, mima ;_;_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] PLEASE PLEASE ZUN I NEED THIS

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 05:04:10 2014 No.12824754 >>12824485 >Looks like it will be a fightan. I hope they realized how awful HM's combat system was and go back to something like UNL or, more ideally, IaMP.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 05:19:39 2014 No.12824789 >>12824754 >>12824485 What if it's an Arcade Beat 'em up?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 05:26:41 2014 No.12824808 >>12824754 >>12824485 What if it's an Arcade Beat 'em up?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 05:26:41 2014 No.12824809 File: 249 KB, 512x384, Yukkuris_Marioworld.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I hope it's gonna be a platformer like New Super Marisa Land. No one plays fighters nowadays except african american pseudo weaboos.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 05:28:44 2014 No.12824814 >>12824809 Highly unlikely since its tasofro.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 05:36:43 2014 No.12824824 File: 24 KB, 384x224, Final_Fight_gameplay.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12824789 Forgot pic

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 05:37:48 2014 No.12824825

>>12824814
Tasofro made New Super Marisa Land, dork. They also made a big variety of different games that are actually good, like the komeiji puzzle game, grief syndrome or MegaMari. Not like shitty circles like Desunoya, who recycle their platformer engine and pretty much always release the same game, just with different levels and character sprites.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 05:53:08 2014 No.12824846 I guess it's going to be one of those labyrinth in the dark games with a bit of silly 2hu action.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 05:54:41 2014 No.12824849 >>12824754 There's people who unironically like IaMP?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 06:03:43 2014 No.12824869 >>12824849 Please, ton of spellcards and characters doesn't make a game good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 06:04:57 2014 No.12824872 >>12824849 It had really great gameplay dood

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 06:40:20 2014 No.12824935 File: 393 KB, 600x840, yuukawizard.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12824170 I aint sayin mima is confirmed but MIMA CONFIRMED

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 06:44:47 2014 No.12824938 >>12824935 Where's your tinychat?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 06:45:00 2014 No.12824939 What if it's a dungeon crawler?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 06:47:10 2014 No.12824940 That is myon right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 06:53:04 2014 No.12824949 File: 895 KB, 1024x1024, 45270238.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] the urban legend of the shrine maiden who sucked 100 human cocks in a week

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 06:54:22 2014 No.12824950

>>12824940
No, it's just generic phantom/ghost. Usually all the games use the silhouette of the new character on the title, but this time they probably thought it would be too big of a spoiler and replaced it with this shit. Probably new character's silhouette would be too recognizable. For example if it was Mima.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 06:54:32 2014 No.12824953 >>12824949 i'd play that

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 06:55:04 2014 No.12824955 >>12824949 Wow, Sanae actually looks pretty aggressive there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 06:55:15 2014 No.12824956 >>12824949 It would be funny to have Sanae fight the twisted urban legend version of herself. there are probably a bunch of urban legends caused by or surrounding the cast which would be neat to see

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 06:56:13 2014 No.12824958 >>12824950 I hope ZUN doesn't forget Youmu and Yuyuko in a GHOST game, then again he did forget the Moriya in a religion game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 06:58:14 2014 No.12824963 >>12824956 I hope it ends with Sanae succumbing to her slut self so we have two Slutnae.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 07:01:00 2014 No.12824970 >>12824949 Epic, this meme never gets old.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 07:04:34 2014 No.12824980 let me know when a new kancolle game is coming out this shit is old hat (lmao hat)

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 07:06:39 2014 No.12824984 >>12824938 What's that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 07:15:31 2014 No.12825002 >>12824958 They have little no reason to appear though. It would be like putting dracula in a generic cave with bats. Plus Youmu is afraid of spooky stuff, she had 50% chance of appearing, they either force her to join or she manages escape that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 07:19:05 2014 No.12825011 >>12824958 youmu has more to do with a farming simulator than a ghost themed game

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 07:19:14 2014 No.12825012 File: 191 KB, 430x364, 1200378427532.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i hope it's a youmu-scaring game!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 07:19:17 2014 No.12825013 >>12825002 Eh, putting Youmu in a gut test so she can overcome her fear sound good to me. Not to mention she did have the responsibility of taking ghosts/phantoms back to Hakugoryoku ever since PCB.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 07:20:18 2014 No.12825017 >>12825011 Youmu is a gardener, not a farmer.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 07:22:19 2014 No.12825020 File: 9 KB, 640x380, 1206858810553.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] youmu is a dogsbody!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 07:23:54 2014 No.12825021 >>12825020 But 200 yojana in one flash...

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 08:06:31 2014 No.12825082 >>12825021 yuo know how children love to exaggerate

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 08:07:39 2014 No.12825084 File: 247 KB, 450x600, 1207248181555.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] *you mu

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 08:15:03 2014 No.12825093 >>12824170 >those requirements I guess I'm not gonna play it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 09:02:53 2014 No.12825199 I wonder if alphes drawings will be bad again.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 09:31:31 2014 No.12825243 >>12824970 there's always a butthurt sanaefag to keep it going, like you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 09:33:39 2014 No.12825247 >>12825084 ＹＯＵ無？

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 09:58:03 2014 No.12825279 Please no fighting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 10:03:09 2014 No.12825283 >>12824849 How new are you? IaMP was extremely popular.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 10:03:10 2014 No.12825284 >>12825247 俺は無い？

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 10:27:11 2014 No.12825322

Apparently, this month's Wild and Horned Hermit directly ties in with this.
Like, it turns out the dog with a human face is actually just Kasen's dog (that has a human face).
And the woman that sells human feet is something Marisa witnessed, and Reimu is all "Are you sure it wasn't just RABBIT's feet? Are you sure it wasn't just you taking WAY too many hallucinogenic mushrooms again?" and Marisa is all "Oh, you're right, that's probably what it was".
And Reimu is all "You can't take your dog into the village, Kasen. What would happen if a Youkai came into the village!?" and Kasen is all "Seriously!? We're going to act like it hasn't happened yet, multiple times?"
And finally, Reimu goes all "Rumors are always totally untrue and baseless here, but they can be harmful! Like the rumors that I'm a lazy, violent alcoholic who beats the crap out of everyone who comes near my shrine for no reason and that my shrine is filled with Youkai at all times. That completely false "Hakurei Shrine= Youkai Shrine" rumor is the only reason my shrine is unpopular, and it's not remotely true!"

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 10:28:43 2014 No.12825323 >>12824949 Is this how ZUN's style would look like if he could draw?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:03:05 2014 No.12825367 >>12824825 Speaking about the Komeiji Puzzle Game, is there a way to make Satori select a different space to place the item without moving herself?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:11:56 2014 No.12825379 >>12825367 Hold down the button.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:23:21 2014 No.12825400 File: 91 KB, 480x270, 1419351545945.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Confirmed as another usual tasogare fighter But don't know what the hell is going on in there

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:24:08 2014 No.12825404 Please don't be shitty.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:28:06 2014 No.12825409 >>12825400 Character portrait looks like it's done by Moe Harukawa No more trashy alphes ruining 2hu art.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:28:07 2014 No.12825410 >>12825400 HM expansion? I really fucking hope not.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:29:22 2014 No.12825412 >>12825379 Oh, thanks

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:29:24 2014 No.12825413 >>12825322 Mima confirmed for bullying Reimu!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:31:36 2014 No.12825418 >>12825400 So it really is just the Hisoutensoku to SWR, I guess, with even fancier HUDs. Let's hope they managed to unfuck the game.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:31:49 2014 No.12825420

>>12825400
>Flying mechanic still in.
>Popularity mechanic still in, but overhauled (it's now shared by the two fighters?)
>Specials and Spellcards mechanic vary between fighters? Marisa's bar is longer than Reimu.
>You can summon urban legends as strikers?
>Inexplicable toilet icon next to the "matches won" pips
Interesting.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:32:56 2014 No.12825425

>>12825322
>for no reason
When has she beaten youkai who come to her shrine for no reason? If anything if the youkai come to her shrine she just serves them tea/sake like it happens in nearly every game and multiple times through the manga. The only exception is if the youkai come to deliberately cause trouble and the beating is perfectly justified, like the fairies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:37:40 2014 No.12825435 >>Popularity mechanic still in, but overhauled (it's now shared by the two fighters?) I'm guessing that's the occult balls

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:37:48 2014 No.12825436

>>12825425
1. She HAS attacked the youkai for "no reason". At the end of the "Miko Miko Kasen" chapter. Granted, she actually had a reason : she realised her true calling in life was exterminating youkai, not defrauding the villagers with phony fortunes.
2. I'm actually trolling with fake spoilers, ssshhh!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:40:06 2014 No.12825439 From what I've heard, it's a sequel to HM, not an expansion pack like Hisoutensoku. And unlike his opinion on HM, ZUN said that it has become a "very good game." https://twitter.com/quuya/status/547344649619128320

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:42:41 2014 No.12825444 >>12825439 no creator will say "this is going to be bad" before they release it

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:43:09 2014 No.12825445 >>12825400 Where did you get this image?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:43:37 2014 No.12825447 >>12825439 ZUN had a bad opinion of HM?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:44:03 2014 No.12825450 File: 373 KB, 552x589, 1419351995503.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] TBH I feel a bit disappointed with tasofuro. It seems they're gonna follow the HM's system.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:44:03 2014 No.12825451 File: 401 KB, 1200x1755, 0022.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is Kasen going to be playable?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:44:31 2014 No.12825452 >>12825447 I remember him saying that the only thing good about HM was the story somewhere on his twatter, but I can't remember.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:44:33 2014 No.12825453 >>12825445 tasogare's blog http://tasofro.net/diary/view/108

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:46:45 2014 No.12825460 >>12825453 Ah, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:49:44 2014 No.12825468 >>12825460 No problem. I always spoonfeed people who are too retarded to know what Google is.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:51:21 2014 No.12825471

Another shitty fighting game for few turbonerds.

This time I probably won't even download it and just read translation page on wiki. Also I just checked and http://touhouendings.wikkii.com/ is fucking down. It means that even if I beat the game I won't be able to get translation of endings because of all those retarded faggots who blindly follow "no endings" rule.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:51:43 2014 No.12825475 >>12825451 Not until her manga is finished. On another note since it has been 20 years was out and the theme of the next game i think this is a great for some older characters to make an apparence. Mima please ZUN

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:52:15 2014 No.12825478

>>12825436
>defrauding
they said her callings were accurate actually, including the narrator, which is why at the end it shows that she kept doing that business and gaining money, but with youkai instead, and of course it will never be referenced again because ZUN drinks so much he can't remember what he had for breakfast yesterday.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:53:18 2014 No.12825480 >>12825471 I used youtube to see all the HM endings.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:56:58 2014 No.12825489 >>12824935 YEAH!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 12:00:08 2014 No.12825498 I can't wait for this game to be shit like HM. And Soku. And SWR. The geniuses who made IaMP are dead now. I guess kusoges really do sell better than good games. Gotta get that money from the "huurrr I can fight with my waifu!" crowd

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 12:00:17 2014 No.12825499 >>12825471 You should've done that with all official games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 12:01:15 2014 No.12825504 >>12825498 >The geniuses who made IaMP are dead now. But that game was awful, it's so stiff and barebones.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 12:04:13 2014 No.12825513 I'm still waiting for next photo game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 12:05:21 2014 No.12825519 >>12825084 You Moo

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 12:05:22 2014 No.12825520 >>12825498 >Gotta get that money from the "huurrr I can fight with my waifu!" crowd HM was despised because it doesn't have popular waifus as playables, though we don't know about this game yet. Maybe Kogasa is going to be playable?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 12:06:33 2014 No.12825524 Why does Tasofro continue to think that the flying mechanic is good?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 12:07:18 2014 No.12825527 File: 34 KB, 850x801, 1406851110078.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12825453 >fighting game why again fighting games are the on the same shitty level as mobile phone flash games

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 12:08:06 2014 No.12825530 File: 132 KB, 850x595, 305c6ee1ae78da5fd64a9c497ff7f9bb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12825504 >But that game was awful It gave us Suika, so it's the best Touhou fighting game >>12825513 Need more characters for that

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 12:08:13 2014 No.12825531 >>12825283 Gee no shit, it was the first fightan.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 12:08:26 2014 No.12825532

>>12825520
>HM was despised because it doesn't have popular waifus as playables
Balls, it was hated because it was fucking horrible and the flying mechanic was annoying and unnatural. Look at Kokoro holy shit, she got a gorillion doujins, this isn't about waifu popularity.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 12:08:37 2014 No.12825533 >>12825524 I think because that they want to keep a pattern. IaMP (base game) > SWR (big sequel) > Hisoutensoku (Expansion Pack) HM (base game) > ULiL (big sequel) > ??? (Expansion Pack) Who knows, they might go back to ground fighting next.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 12:09:55 2014 No.12825539

>>12825513
Impossible Spellcard was not enough? Almost the same concept and it even has camera as one of the tools.

>>12825520
It will obviously have DDC cast (Seki, Kagerou, 3 musical touhous) and maybe few characters from TD/UFO (for example Murasa).

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 12:12:10 2014 No.12825548 >>12825498 I bet you guys are Meeleefags.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 12:12:15 2014 No.12825550 >>12825533 Is it autism that makes people say things like this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 12:12:29 2014 No.12825551 >>12825513 Nah, we already have too much Aya in the games. Unless there's new reporter with cool abilities, just so the gameplay will be a bit different than the last photo game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 12:13:02 2014 No.12825552 >>12825548 fuck smash

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 12:13:26 2014 No.12825555 >>12825550 No, it's Tasofro's autism that makes me say things like this.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 12:13:43 2014 No.12825556

>>12825524
>>12825533
>Who knows, they might go back to ground fighting next.
Sorry but the head of tasofuro clearly stated that Touhou fighter IDEALLY should be aerial, because... well it's Touhou (he even said he wanted to make IaMP aerial but couldn't due to technical limitations at that time)

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 12:15:04 2014 No.12825561 >>12825548 IaMP is so damn stiff it's more like ssb64.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 12:15:35 2014 No.12825563 >>12825551 >Unless there's new reporter Third one? Yeah, we totally need it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 12:15:42 2014 No.12825564 File: 271 KB, 425x337, hanged sanae.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12825533 I stopped thinking about pattern when ZUN made Sakuya playable instead of Sanae.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 12:19:21 2014 No.12825570 Please let Seiga in. Or Seija, either is fine.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 12:26:17 2014 No.12825583 They got my hopes up with that promo card. Fuck fighting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 12:26:42 2014 No.12825584 >>12825548 But Melee is the best Smash game not counting Project M, you goddamn casual

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 12:28:15 2014 No.12825591 >>12824685 Touhou will never have official action-adventure game, so no.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 12:46:49 2014 No.12825634 >>12825564 ZUN's pattern is I do what I want with a bit of fuck your headcanon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 12:52:58 2014 No.12825646 The only bad thing about HM was the broken popularity system, aside for that it was nice, the floatiness didn't feel bad at all. As long they fix the broken popularity thing it should be fine.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 12:55:14 2014 No.12825652 >>12825646 The reason why everyone hates it is because they're literally the Touhou equivalent of genwunners/meleefags.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 12:56:26 2014 No.12825657 File: 101 KB, 539x468, burger pro.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12825084 fug u /mu/

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 13:00:35 2014 No.12825665 Remember that no Moriya characters were playable in the religious war finale. I would say that, beyond TH14 representation bets are pretty much off for who will be in.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 13:02:26 2014 No.12825669 >>12825652 No, it's because it was annoying as hell and unnatural. >genwunners You mean the most casual, broken and shallow generation? That doesn't make sense.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 13:03:04 2014 No.12825673 >>12825665 I can make a safe bet that there will be no SA characters.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 13:03:28 2014 No.12825674 >>12825665 >Remember that no Moriya characters were playable in the religious war finale. thankfully, hate those bitches.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 13:03:42 2014 No.12825675 >>12825665 They don't need to fight which is probably why, they're already massively successful.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 13:06:05 2014 No.12825680 >>12825527 >fighting games are the on the same shitty level as mobile phone flash games Stop shitposting. Also I want them to finally put an extra mode into a touhou fightan.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 13:09:37 2014 No.12825693 >>12825673 But there was one, wasn't there? I don't remember...

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 13:12:19 2014 No.12825700 File: 701 KB, 250x368, 1369550161150.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12825673 yeah, tasofro really hates sa

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 13:13:36 2014 No.12825704 >>12825669 >Touhou all about flying battles >A flying fighting game is unnatural If you want a generic basic fighter just play a generic basic fighter.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 13:13:36 2014 No.12825705 >>12825693 In HM? Yes, that was the limit of SA character appearance till the end of touhou.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 13:16:13 2014 No.12825713

>>12825704
>sacrificing gameplay for an irrelevant theme
IaMP and SWR were better and they weren't flying only, stop making retarded excuses, by your logic they shouldn't be able to hit each other physically and only be able to use danmaku cause that's also a Touhou thing. The previous games still let you fly temporarily, why remove the ground aspect?

HM is more shallow too, if anything it's more basic than the others, it's not unique either, fucking DBZ games had done it decades earlier.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 13:16:13 2014 No.12825714 >>12825700 HM kinda soured my opinion on Koishi. I mean, I still like her, but learning that she's pretty much braindead and has pretty much no personality whatsoever was kind of depressing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 13:17:15 2014 No.12825718 >>12825714 >has pretty much no personality whatsoever wut? She's the most vibrant character in the game by far, and even her happy self gets angry when Ichirin fails to notice her.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 13:21:20 2014 No.12825730

>>12825718
She's incredibly vibrant and happy because she's literally a braindead retard. That's kind of what I meant.

From her official HM profile:
>Every day, she lived like that - without dreams, and without hopes.

She doesn't have anything to her, no desires or whatever. Hence why Byakuren thought she was so close to achieving enlightenment.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 13:22:32 2014 No.12825732 God dammit. I wanted spooky adventures with Marisa. I didnt mind HM, but I wanted something new.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 13:24:04 2014 No.12825737 >>12825713 The ground is still there, you're chained to that line matter how you move.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 13:24:18 2014 No.12825738 It's a shame because HM sprites are wonderful, yet the gameplay is so lame. I hope they fix it somehow and add more characters because the HM one doesn't really appeal to my shit taste.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 13:27:24 2014 No.12825742 >>12825730 That's been Koishi's main trait since she's first appeared. An interviewer even asked ZUN what was the deal with making broken little sisters once.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 13:28:46 2014 No.12825746

>>12825730
>She's incredibly vibrant and happy because she's literally a braindead retard
That's taking it too far, she's just happy, she doesn't display any form of retardation, if she was what you say she is then she would never get angry, and she does.
>no desires or whatever.
Except when she does, like in SA and HM, that's just her when she has nothing to do.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 13:29:19 2014 No.12825748 File: 1.28 MB, 1429x810, 1390278357036.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] am hype

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 13:29:48 2014 No.12825752 >>12825737 >The ground is still there, Like hell it is, the whole battle is on the air, it might as well not be there.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 13:29:55 2014 No.12825754
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if fighting games wouldn't suck so much if you play them in single player mode i would have no problem, but this...
at least they could try adding gameplay to the fighting games like in final fight or in the TMNT games

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 13:30:50 2014 No.12825757 >>12825732 >I wanted spooky adventures with Marisa Eww, that would be terrible, making a solo game with one of the most boring and cringe-worthily cliche characters would be off putting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 13:34:05 2014 No.12825763 >>12825754 Main problem is their shit netplay.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 13:34:50 2014 No.12825764 >>12825420 I'm guessing the toilet is your online id icon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 13:35:12 2014 No.12825766 >>12825730 She lived like that before HM, but then mask of hope has changed her.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 13:37:48 2014 No.12825772 >>12825583 Same, looked like a spooky adventure.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 13:42:52 2014 No.12825790 >>12825772 Same here. I thought it's going to be a spooky 3D exploration game starring Marisa. I guess we're having another HM with spooky ghosts as danmaku.

proREMIRIAt Elite Force Comman(...) !rSDMROXTB. Tue Dec 23 13:49:02 2014 No.12825812
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Damn, by >>12824485 summary I thought it was going to be something something sub items like Impossible Spellcard.

PoFV-esque game fucking when.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 14:04:57 2014 No.12825843 File: 44 KB, 248x274, 1354226927065.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12825812

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 14:17:44 2014 No.12825880 I wonder if Sekibanki will make an appearance. Her being 'outed' as a youkai in the village could make for a decent story mode, as she gets revenge on Marisa/Reimu

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 14:18:08 2014 No.12825882 >>12825812 Don't lose hope anon. Unless the piano is just a new system card.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 14:28:30 2014 No.12825911 >>12825646 The only bad thing about HM was HM.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 14:51:39 2014 No.12825968 When they mention 13.5 in the blog post they refer to as 心綺桜 rather than 心綺楼. Is this some sort of joke I don't get?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:03:21 2014 No.12826164 File: 805 KB, 1000x1038, a4acc72b7ca9a0e65bd8d27a892c57d7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What characters do you guys want in/would immediately main? I'd speculate on who's powers would result in the most interesting gameplay but nah.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:05:26 2014 No.12826170 >>12826164 >What characters do you guys want in after the turd that was HM, only Utsuho's inclusion would be the decisive factor of whether or not I should get it, beat the story mode with her and then uninstall.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:06:53 2014 No.12826174 File: 251 KB, 1200x1200, 1401344449337.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12825498 Soku is shit, now?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:07:49 2014 No.12826175 >>12826164 Shou

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:07:49 2014 No.12826176 >>12826164 Honestly, the cast was the one thing HM got right. I was very happy with the characters they included, Recycled SDM shit gets old fast.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:08:56 2014 No.12826180 >>12826174 Soku has always been considered shit by people who take fighting games seriously

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:11:26 2014 No.12826189

>>12826174
Soku was SWR with more characters, music, and spell cards. They didn't actually improve the gameplay, it was still a kusoge at its core.

>>12826164

Even though I expect this game to be a Kusoge, Shou would be hype. I just want her playable in SOMETHING, come on ZUN.

She's a goddamn tiger, she's perfect for a fighting game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:11:31 2014 No.12826190 File: 342 KB, 1200x843, 1409992361437.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12825882 >piano http://youtu.be/yS881o8R9LI >>12825880 Bankiki would be good since there are urban legends close to the rokurokubi of old.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:14:04 2014 No.12826200 File: 1.43 MB, 817x2193, Poor Shou.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12826175 >>12826189 I doubt we will see Shou after what happened in HM.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:14:53 2014 No.12826202

>>12826176
>the cast was the one thing HM got right
It's like they deliberately went to remove all the popular characters barring the two obligatory MCs and added in the most boring ones that ZUN is desperately trying to jam into people, especially TD's cast.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:15:55 2014 No.12826206 >>12826189 >it was still a kusoge Please explain in detail, you calling it a shit game in japanese doesn't mean anything.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:17:14 2014 No.12826210 File: 407 KB, 686x1596, Futo Taunting Byuakuren.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12826202 How dare they use mysticism characters during the mysticism arc.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:18:03 2014 No.12826212 >>12826176 >Honestly, the cast was the one thing HM got right Are you serious? I bet you are just a Koishi fag because she was the only decent thing, and maybe Byakuen. The rest was lame, very lame.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:20:11 2014 No.12826219 File: 1.00 MB, 1920x1080, Sukuna.Shinmyoumaru.full.1577340.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12826164 shinmyoumaru

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:21:09 2014 No.12826222 >>12826202 >>12826212 Futo, Byakuren, Miko, Koishi, Mamizou, and Kokoro were all great additions visually, story wise, and had unique playstyles.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:22:33 2014 No.12826227 >>12826202 Who would you have had in it then?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:23:34 2014 No.12826228 File: 292 KB, 766x545, Waka Waka.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12826219 I want tiny Shinmyoumaru, Seikibanki and Waka Waka. All her move sets are her flopping around the battle ground like a magikarp.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:25:33 2014 No.12826232

>>12826222
Well, it's your opinion, but i don't like any of the characters you mentioned except from Byakuren, and maybe Koishi though i'm not a big fan of her. The gameplay was shit from the core so i can't care too much about the playstyles. Visually the game looks great, if it had something good, it's that for sure. It's my opinion though, wathever.
I hope they fix the gameplay somehow, mainly taking out that thing about popularity that i don't and i don't want to remember how it worked. And making a larger cast would be nice too.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:25:41 2014 No.12826235

>>12826210
Please, most of the cast in Soku had no place being there other than cheap reasons, you don't need an excuse to put in whatever characters you want.
>>12826222
They are extremely bland, one-sided characters that seem extremely ham fisted in the game because of ZUN's new attraction with his shitty religion wars. The only exception Kokoro of course since she's the obligatory new character.
>>12826227
Actually interesting characters like Yukari, Aya and Mokou.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:26:43 2014 No.12826238 No one cares about my opinion since I actually had alot of fun playing HM but I also liked HM's cast alot. Miko was the most bland gameplaywise, but everyone else was fun to play. http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24107948

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:28:31 2014 No.12826244

>>12826222
>visually
...because of their design? no. they had to be changed just to make them more interesting, see: Miko's cape.
>story wise
the only character that mattered story wise was Kokoro and maybe Koishi, and she was forced in that role, the rest were just ''the participants''.
>and had unique playstyles.
you can make unique playstyles to any character, look at the bullshit they made up for the characters just to make them less bland than they originally were like Miko's lightsaber.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:28:50 2014 No.12826247

>>12826210
What was stopping ZUN from using any other theme for HM? We got enough religion in MoF, UFO and TD (and in SoPM). And I would really be happy if HM was indeed about mysticism with mysticism characters. Vampires, phantoms, fairies, tengus, that kind of mysterious and magical stuff. Instead we got a real historical person and some Buddhist monk who doesn't even have a special ability. UFO's and TD's religion has more politics than mysticism. And taoism is not even native to Japan, while it's 東方 for us, it's not for Japan.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:31:28 2014 No.12826253 So another shitty mechanics fighter? To the trash it goes. I'll keep playing Soku.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:31:29 2014 No.12826254 I was really hoping it wasn't another fighter, I don't really play fighters and I've been craving another official game I can play online. PoFV is getting a little old

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:36:28 2014 No.12826261 >>12826244 >the only character that mattered story wise was Kokoro and maybe Koishi So Miko, the one who was responsible for Kokoro's existence didn't matter? K

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:41:07 2014 No.12826269 >>12825498 >The geniuses who made IaMP are dead now what are you even talking about

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:42:18 2014 No.12826272

>>12826235
>Please, most of the cast in Soku had no place being there other than cheap reasons, you don't need an excuse to put in whatever characters you want.
How the hell do you even reach this conclusion?
The entire premise of the game was based around the religious factions, and thats what most of the cast is directly related to

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:49:28 2014 No.12826287 >>12826254 i think danmaku + netplay will not work properly anyway soon, but PoFV did some neat features so that precise inputs weren't that important

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:50:47 2014 No.12826295 File: 163 KB, 180x353, miko_hm.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12826202 Shittest taste I have seen in a while. Consider yourself expelled from life.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:55:27 2014 No.12826309

>>12826287
There's so little direct interaction between each player that your own side of the screen could easily be handled locally, the only different would be your opponents side of the screen is being seen at a ~1/10th of a second delay. I don't understand why it even PoFV didn't handle it like that.

The only room for problems would be if both players are on their last hit and each die at almost the exact same time, but there could always be some kind of new mechanic in place for that, like a chance to "negate" your loss and get a second chance if your opponent also takes his last hit within a second after.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:55:37 2014 No.12826310 File: 3 KB, 24x30, 03a Parsee.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12826164 Playable Parsee when?

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:55:59 2014 No.12826311

>>12826261
>the one who was responsible for Kokoro's existence
Might as well include Adam and Eve because they 'created' Cain and Abel who bla-bla-bla created prince Shoutoku who created those masks.

>>12826272
>The entire premise of the game was based around the religious factions
And that's why we didn't get Moriya. And we got Nitori.

There was never any reason for any character to be in a game than just "ZUN decided so". And there are a lot more people who like characters from EoSD-SA than fags who like UFOshit and TDcrap.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:56:46 2014 No.12826316

>>12826295
Says the guy who likes a character that was so bland they had to make shit up for her in HM, like an embarassingly bad attempt at making her cool with that cape and the flashing sword.

Seriously, TD's characters are so goddamn bland, and it's really sad that ZUN is trying his damnest to shove them everywhere all the time. Hell he even made Kosuzu think Mamizou was cool, as if it wasn't desperate enough.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:58:47 2014 No.12826323 >>12825551 There's no such thing as too much Aya

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 17:00:16 2014 No.12826328 >>12826272 >How the hell do you even reach this conclusion? Because Nitori, Koishi, Kokoro and Mamizou are in it. Not that it matters, there's never any reason to make a game have a boring cast simply because the story suggests so.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 17:01:18 2014 No.12826334 >>12826316 Also a sort of victory laugh that contrasts with her original nature in TD, basically they slapped a new character onto her.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 17:01:35 2014 No.12826335 >>12826311 You my friend, are a whole new kind of stupid

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 17:02:19 2014 No.12826336 >>12826335 Damn, you just DESTROYED him, man.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 17:03:24 2014 No.12826340

>>12826316
Indeed.
For example just look at Remilia's game profile. Short and simple, in just few sentences we learn slightly about her backstory, personality and motives. A little bit of humour, a little bit of vagueness. Perfect.
Then look at Miko's TD profile. Fucking wall of text. X something Y, but then Z was something else. Holy shit, it's like I'm reading a random wikipedia article about history event. ZUN went maximum tryhard there and he still failed to depict such a simple thing as Miko's personality.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 17:05:31 2014 No.12826349 File: 29 KB, 625x626, kinda wish this was bait.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12826316 >>12826328 >>12826334 >>12826340

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 17:06:40 2014 No.12826353 >>12826340 not every character can be a simple stereotype like a vampire, fairy, fetish maid or catgirl

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 17:10:03 2014 No.12826360 >>12825011 Harvest Youmuun when?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 17:11:24 2014 No.12826362 >>12826310 Never

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 17:14:53 2014 No.12826371 I want to play a Rumia

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 17:16:08 2014 No.12826373 >>12826353 I see my post went over your head. Even if Remilia's personality is stereotyped, Miko has none at all.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 17:18:50 2014 No.12826379 >>12826373 Please be bait

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 17:25:46 2014 No.12826398 File: 295 KB, 849x1200, 1414004523088.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12826373 Actually, Remilia have an ojou-sama facade when there are people looking, but in reality, she's quite bratty / childish.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 17:32:09 2014 No.12826411

I recognize typical TDfags. As soon as they leave their contamination thread they get instantly told and start shitposting.

>>12826379
Find me a single sentence in Miko's game profile (the biggest one in the whole touhou series) which says something about her personality.

>>	proREMIRIAt Elite Force Comman(...) !rSDMROXTB. Tue Dec 23 17:34:13 2014 No.12826419 Don't speak ill of Remilia Ojou-sama onegai.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 17:35:25 2014 No.12826421 File: 102 KB, 500x645, 500 years old noble vampire.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12826419 Noble vampire doing noble things.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 17:37:59 2014 No.12826430 File: 38 KB, 248x274, 1354407778696.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12826419

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 17:38:05 2014 No.12826431 >>12826411 I can't remember, but wasn't there something saying that she's pretty laid back and easy going for a Hermit?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 17:40:25 2014 No.12826439 File: 48 KB, 365x382, tmp_4724-1416140279730-775119718.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Here we go, canon anons got triggered. Time to abandon the thread and wait warmly for Mima's comeback.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 17:43:08 2014 No.12826442

>>12826411
have a read through some of the characters from other games' profiles. It doesn't always explicitly state what their personality is like. Like Byakuren, for example. You figure out what their personality is through their dialogue and actions.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 17:44:45 2014 No.12826445 >Game is based around characters controlling urban legends, aka "supernatural phenomena" >someone already has the ability to "Control Supernatural Phenomena" Yuugi confirmed for playable character.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 17:45:29 2014 No.12826446 >>12826439 Do you really want Mima to appear in a shitty fighting game with toilet monsters? What would people who never played PC-98 games think about her? What kind of doujins would she have?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 17:46:36 2014 No.12826452 >>12826446 >What would people who never played PC-98 games think about her? does it matter? Alice and Yuuka's personalities barely resemble what they were in PC-98.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 17:49:59 2014 No.12826457

>>12826174

I don't think anyone will seriously contest that UNL was a pretty low rung tier fighting game. I mean, I enjoyed it a lot, but as a fighting game it just wasn't great.

I don't think it was really bad, but it certainly doesn't compare to some of the greats, and after watching a lot of IaMP gameplay videos definitely liked the faster pace and primarily grounded fighting a lot more.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 17:51:50 2014 No.12826460 >>12826439 Does anyone actually give a shit about Mima or do people just like to perpetuate this joke

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 17:54:45 2014 No.12826466 >>12826460 it's an ebik meem.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 17:58:02 2014 No.12826471
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>>12826460

Why do you think nobody likes Mima?

She has a cool relationship to Marisa, she's an interesting character, I enjoy her theme songs, and I like her outfit. So fug u

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 18:02:07 2014 No.12826479 >>12824384 >>12824491 >>12824686 Don't you guys realize that the only way to get Mima to reappear in Gensokyo is to stop believing in her?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 18:04:53 2014 No.12826482 File: 3 KB, 186x123, from_25-12-2013.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12826460 I was collecting stats of touhousort threads back in 2013. It's not a representative sample (usually thread had 60-70 tohosorts), but she usually was in top 30.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 18:06:01 2014 No.12826487 >>12825714 >>12825730 What. Koishi has achieved, unwittingly, what many religions call enlightenment. She is beyond petty hatreds, worries and mundane things. She simply is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 18:10:25 2014 No.12826494 >>12826206 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPdNAlXbAOY

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 18:12:08 2014 No.12826500 >>12825400 ALPHES BTFO B T F O

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 18:16:34 2014 No.12826508 >>12826494 Is that it? A guy humorously commenting on each action of a replay? Did you even watch your own video?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 18:16:53 2014 No.12826509 >>12825400 who is moe harukawa anyway?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 18:17:36 2014 No.12826513 >>12826487 >She is beyond petty hatreds she got upset because Ichirin couldn't see her and insulted her because of it.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 18:19:48 2014 No.12826518
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>>12826487

>'"When you wake up in the morning,
Pooh," said Piglet at last, "what's
the first thing you say to yourself?"
>"What's for breakfast?" said Pooh.
>"What do you say, Piglet?"
>"I say, I wonder what's going to
happen exciting today?" said Piglet.
>Pooh nodded thoughtfully.
>"It's the same thing," he said.
>"What's that?" the Unbeliever
asked.
>"Wisdom from a Western Taoist," I
said.'

This topic has reminded me that I should finish reading The Tao of Pooh.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 18:20:14 2014 No.12826521 >>12826513 hatred implies constantly despising someone/something else. getting angry for a while its no hatred

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 18:21:13 2014 No.12826526 >>12826521 now you're just cheating. the worries part is wrong too since she had desires in SA and HM.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 18:21:15 2014 No.12826527 >>12826310 mein nigger

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 18:21:35 2014 No.12826529 >>12826460 There might be a few people who actually care about her character but for the most part it's just a joke

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 18:27:41 2014 No.12826542

>>12826508
He's pointing out the ridiculousness of the gameplay. But if you insist:

-Weather was a terrible random mechanic which wreaked havoc with the flow of the game

-Limit ensured that all combos did absolute shit for damage making each game take goddamn forever

-The mechanics overall promoted passive defensive play--you get barely anything for hitting anyone, and making a mistake barely costs you; you can't really drain anyone's spirit (breaking an orb takes jackshit away from their spirit) and limit their resources. You just cannot gain an advantage in SWR/Soku

-Border Escapes are OBJECTIVELY shittier than just wrongblocking a blockstring (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p43DQmcJU-4))

-Card system was yet more random shit

Any attempt to take SWR or Soku seriously results in a dumb as fuck game where no one wants to hit each other and when they do their combo ends absurdly fast ('cause "hurrr lets force all combos to stop after a certain point so scrubs don't get mad when they get wrecked even though IaMP didn't even have long combos anyway"). Oh and then weather utterly messes with everything. A fighting game which can't be taken seriously is an abject failure.

Tasofro directly admitted that they dumbed down the game to appeal to casuals and guys who only care about beating up other waifus with their waifu.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 18:38:57 2014 No.12826588

>>12826542
>Border Escapes are OBJECTIVELY shittier than just wrongblocking a blockstring
Except, this was fixed in Soku. At least do your research.

>The mechanics overall promoted passive defensive play--you get barely anything for hitting anyone, and making a mistake barely costs you; you can't really drain anyone's spirit (breaking an orb takes jackshit away from their spirit) and limit their resources. You just cannot gain an advantage in SWR/Soku
Oh yeah?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFUytu2F9bY&t=1m0s

I'd gladly take all of the above over HMs insane system anyday.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 18:44:59 2014 No.12826605 File: 433 KB, 800x720, a4af01013508c5cf86ddbe44c2f8e070.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12824956 >>12824963 "My own clone, now neither of us will be--- oh wait, we ain't virgins in the first place anyway."

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 19:02:15 2014 No.12826664 >>12826605 The day ZUN acknowledges slut meme as canon in regards to Sanae will be the day I'm burning all of my merchandise with her.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 19:06:28 2014 No.12826676 >>12826170 why are utsuho fags such faggots

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 19:10:23 2014 No.12826688

>>12826588
>Oh yeah?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFUytu2F9bY&t=1m0s

Your video proves my points...?

Sakuya limits Sanae twice. She had her in the corner and could do barely over 3000 to Sanae and needed TWO goddamn combos to do it.

They then spend TEN SECONDS running around and chucking bullets at each other instead of actually fighting. In every match they're flying around and cherry-tapping each other with tiny-ass combos that can barely do 1500-2000HP.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 19:11:49 2014 No.12826691 >>12826542 >making each game take goddamn forever pretty sure you shouldn't be playing IaMP either

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 19:12:48 2014 No.12826694 >>12826676 the hell's your problem?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 19:13:25 2014 No.12826695 >>12824749 never ever

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 19:13:42 2014 No.12826696

>>12826691
>pretty sure you shouldn't be playing IaMP either

I never said that wasn't a problem with IaMP. It was.

IaMP matches, though, were actually interesting to watch. Stuff actually happens in them. Not in SWR/Soku, which often have insufferable lulls where nothing happens for half a fucking minute.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 19:14:26 2014 No.12826700 >>12826694 the HELL is YOUR problem!?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 19:15:12 2014 No.12826702 >>12826688 I get that you hate games where people do lots of small combos instead of one big one but I don't see how that makes it a kusoge.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 19:18:58 2014 No.12826711 >>12826688 Certain matchups in SF4 is literally just fireball chucking and waiting for the timer to count down. It's certainly better than MvC where you pretty much lose the whole game on a single mixup.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 19:36:56 2014 No.12826748

>>12826688
You *do* know that these sequences were intended to break guard and not do huge damage? And having 3 orbs broken against Sakuya is a death sentence anyway, as you won't be able to block another dirt-cheap Killing Doll okizeme too, not to mention having your flight and bullet spam options limited in neutral too. It that isn't an advantage, then what the hell is?

I admit I took Sakuya, who propably has the most insane pressure around, but it's not like the likes of Marisa, Reisen, Tenshi, Yuyuko or Suwako can't turn you into mush on block either with their repeated and tight pressure.

If you specifically complained about the characters with the worst guard break game around, such as Utsuho and Sanae, then I wouldn't really bat an eyelid, but a decent part of the roster has enough stupid shit to gain *huge* advantage on the offense and force BEs (and even those who can't can try scaring the opposing player with staggered pressure).

Not to mention, there are 5-cards that can basically almost cut the enemy lifebar in two if you want huge damage - and why *would* you want the game to end in 3 hitconfirms anyway? Ever tried playing Marvel vs Capcom?

Do try some competitive Soku before passing judgement on it, would you? It's pretty damn nerve wracking to keep yourself on your toes in neutral all the time with the speed of the gameflow. And if you want to call that it slow and boring, then HM's gameflow must be flat-out unplayable to you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 20:04:53 2014 No.12826816 >>12826748 You are trying to reason with an IaMP autist, don't expect this argument to end anytime soon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 20:47:53 2014 No.12826929 >>12826487 So you mean Koishi has achieved Satori? Lesbian incest is canon

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 21:06:26 2014 No.12826978

Well they are all not good fighters to begin with, so I just hope for good music and drawings. An interesting new touhou would be cool and some of the spellcards in HM were nice to look at.
I like HM more from the gameplay, it wasn't as annoying as soku so you atleast got through it fast, sadly HM lacked in good music and generally had too few stuff at launch. On the other hand, when I think of soku and swr, the only positive things I can remember is the music.
So I'm pretty fine with a simple game that has nice aesthetics.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 21:36:21 2014 No.12827039

>>12826340
Having a character's personality explained in a line of text explicitly stating what their personality is like is just laziness. I have no idea how you could think this is somehow better.

>>12826411
Problem is you're expecting there to be a sentence that lays it out like "her personality is that of a selfish child". A good half of Miko's profile demonstrates her attitude, aspirations, beliefs and what she thinks of other people, all the while telling her backstory.

>>12826509
The cutie-pie artist of Forbidden Scrollery.

>>	proREMIRIAt Elite Force Comman(...) !rSDMROXTB. Tue Dec 23 21:38:47 2014 No.12827043 >>12827039 >The cutie-pie artist of Forbidden Scrollery. Did pictures of her get uploaded?.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 21:54:04 2014 No.12827081

>>12825713
>if anything it's more basic than the others, it's not unique either, fucking DBZ games had done it decades earlier.

Funny because I've been thinking the same thing the entire time I've been reading this thread. For christ's sake they got it to work on the PS2 13 years ago.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 22:06:09 2014 No.12827106

>>12827039
>Having a character's personality explained in a line of text explicitly stating what their personality is like is just laziness.
I agree. But ZUN almost never says anything explicitly. I'll use Remilia's profile as an example again. Here's anon description of her personality: >>12826398. And here's how it's described in her game profile:
>She swears that she is a descendant of Tepes, but nobody is certain whether she is truly related to the Vlad "Dracula" Tepes.
>Well, let it be known that she is not.
Clear and laconic.

>A good half of Miko's profile demonstrates her attitude, aspirations, beliefs and what she thinks of other people
And so her personality is...? I really can't see it. If her personality is so complex you can use as many words as you can.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 22:09:41 2014 No.12827116 >>12826457 >UNL is low rung Alright. >IaMP >good >fast paced lol wut https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXbVW0KQTkw (high-level tournament play) IaMP had about as much competitive value as Smash 64. Maybe less.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 23:19:21 2014 No.12827340 >>12827043 I saw her hand on ZUN's live stream. It was cute.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 23:36:54 2014 No.12827412 >>12827340 Screenshot please.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 23:41:03 2014 No.12827426 ugh, a fighting game

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 23:55:29 2014 No.12827477 >>12827116 >IaMP had about as much competitive value as Smash 64. Maybe less. So pretty good then? Because Smash 64 has a pretty healthy competitive scene. It's well-known in the Smash scene for having the longest combos of any Smash game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 23:57:08 2014 No.12827485 >>12827412 Sorry. But I remember she had on a cute sweater that kind of covered her hand, and she kept rubbing her glass with her fingers like she was uncomfortable socially.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 00:00:11 2014 No.12827501 >>12827477 No, it's the stiffest fucking game of all time, just remembering Link's recovery makes me shudder. All the hits send you flying and it's floaty as hell, it's a piece of shit, even without being compared to Melee.

>>	proREMIRIAt Elite Force Comman(...) !rSDMROXTB. Wed Dec 24 00:11:40 2014 No.12827538 >>12827485 I want to kiss Harukawa's cute, girly hand.

Anonymous Wed Dec 24 00:17:00 2014 No.12827555

>>12827106
Not him, but isn't Miko a fairly straightforward character? Imperious, willing to make decisions for other people, certain that she knows best for everyone.

Not what I'd call the most charming or interesting of 2hu personalities, but it's there, especially in Symposium.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 00:38:27 2014 No.12827604 >>12827501 you are painfully clueless

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 00:41:49 2014 No.12827611 >>12827538 do not sexualize the harukawa

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 00:44:51 2014 No.12827619 >>12827604 damn I got told.

Anonymous Wed Dec 24 00:49:30 2014 No.12827630

>>12827116
>lol wut

Perhaps I lack the fighting game knowledge to really argue this, but in IaMP you were always actively making quick decisions. Even if the time it took to actually beat somebody down took a while, this was the case.

It never really felt that way as strongly in UNL because the game was slower, floatier, and it was easier to escape.

I wish I could explain better, but I have to go. In any event, I don't think trying to paint IaMP as a "babby's first fighter" game is fair at all. It was unique and the mechanics were solid enough to make it an interesting and fun game, however long the individual matches may have taken.

Anonymous Wed Dec 24 00:57:12 2014 No.12827651

>>12827630
As a non-fighting-game enthusiast I really don't see the issue. Isn't it popularly said around these parts that Touhou main series games are hugely inferior to STG classics? And yet they're charming and fun to play. That's all I ask from a game, really, not that it hold up at competitive levels.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 04:23:52 2014 No.12828231 >tasofro >HM sequel >no alphes >not even an STG At least it was revealed now so 2015 isn't ruined yet.

Anonymous Wed Dec 24 04:24:33 2014 No.12828232

>>12827651

You're not really wrong, but I find HM way too far a step in the wrong direction. Games can have strong and interesting gameplay without being Street Fighter or Melty Blood or hugely "competitive." IaMP was a perfect example of this in my mind, because its gameplay was quite good yet it remained distinctly touhou.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 04:36:20 2014 No.12828264 >>12828231 Wait, what? That's what this is?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 04:56:32 2014 No.12828302 Well, I'm disappointed that it's a fighting game since I suck at fightan and never grow fond of them. Oh well, there are some new doujin games I guess.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 05:23:15 2014 No.12828343 did ZUN give up in making games already? but it's kinda expected since he's now married and got a kids to care of

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 05:27:00 2014 No.12828347 >>12827611 Is she a fairy?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 06:19:03 2014 No.12828439 >>12828231 >no alphes GOOD. I hope it got fired for good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 06:27:13 2014 No.12828454 >All the alphes bashing. Apparently I'm unaware of something, for what purpose? What'd he do?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 06:30:56 2014 No.12828464 >>12828454 Well outside of the arms, I actually appreciate his art.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 06:36:21 2014 No.12828479 >>12828454 /jp/'s autism. You can read this thread for example: https://archive.moe/jp/thread/10902828/#q10904243.. 300 posts of shitstorm over the colour of hair's shadows.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 06:56:23 2014 No.12828517 i like alphes

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 07:00:26 2014 No.12828526 >>12828454 His old style was generic anime girl while the new one just plain sucks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 07:05:56 2014 No.12828531 >>12828526 At least it isn't generic anime.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 07:07:19 2014 No.12828534 >>12828479 >300 posts of shitstorm over the colour of hair's shadows. Such autism

Anonymous Wed Dec 24 07:16:05 2014 No.12828553
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>>12828531
At least this time we aren't getting crippled midgets or rainbow eyelids growing from sclera-less eyes.

I, for one, find the new artist's artstyle charming, especially so when I think that they could have chosen Ibaraksen's artist (where everyone looks like a melon with eyes and mouths badly tacked on) instead. Which would have fit HM's fighting style, considering the movement felt like pushing inflated balloons under the water and watching them jump back up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 07:32:08 2014 No.12828580 I like videogames because they are a lot of fun

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 07:32:52 2014 No.12828583 Moe's drawing style is fucking good for someone so young, actually is fucking good in general, she deserves all the attention she gets imo.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 07:39:43 2014 No.12828603 >>12828583 Agreed, some people really have amazing talents at a young age. I'm kinda jelly.

Anonymous Wed Dec 24 07:53:28 2014 No.12828638
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>>12826235
>They are extremely bland, one-sided characters that seem extremely ham fisted in the game because of ZUN's new attraction with his shitty religion wars. The only exception Kokoro of course since she's the obligatory new character.

Nah, you're wrong
from the fighting games this one had the most interesting story until now

Besides who would ZUN use to religion fight besides them? I would switch Sanae with Marisa to make more sense and that's it

Jesus, stop bullshiting over the new cast, they're far better than some old characters already playable at old fightings

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 07:58:56 2014 No.12828652 File: 72 KB, 302x405, 1369664978609.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12828638 Oh really? Care to give an example?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 08:05:07 2014 No.12828665 >>12828652 Not that guy but I'd take Seiga over Meiling any days.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 08:27:17 2014 No.12828704 >>12828665 I understand that you like Seiga but what's your reason for hating a likable idiot like Meiling?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 08:29:09 2014 No.12828710 >>12828704 I don't hate Meiling as much as I don't care for her. Both are chinks but Seiga is more interesting, hell, she might be the most interesting out of TD cast

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 08:30:23 2014 No.12828711 >>12826445 Behold, the greatest threat of Gensokyo - Oni's boredom

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 08:45:16 2014 No.12828732 File: 358 KB, 193x219, byaks.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12828711 >>12826445 What if it's the fourth oni?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 08:47:57 2014 No.12828738 what if zun just reks everyone and releases the first ever canon touhou first person shooter

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 08:48:52 2014 No.12828739 File: 397 KB, 1012x1355, Reisen B52.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12828738 I would habeeb it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 08:56:01 2014 No.12828754 >>12828738 Actually it would be a nice concept, as a spinoff game the girls do out of boredom, but I imagine the gameplay be really wonky like the old FPS where everyone jumps and shoots instead of being a cover based one.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 09:00:12 2014 No.12828761 >>12828754 I want to have a old CoH/MoH-ish Touhou where you play Reisen's old old old ancestor (or another rabbit named Reisen by the Watatsuki) fighting against the Yukari's youkai army. Bolt action rifle and bayonet charge all days errry days.

Anonymous Wed Dec 24 09:00:24 2014 No.12828762
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>>12826460
Mima is one of my favorite touhous, and I quite like her shtick
A charming, haughty evil villain that you just can't bring yourself to hate and ends up saving the day for all the wrong reasons. sometimes just to spite the main character

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 09:01:13 2014 No.12828766 >>12828761 old CoD*

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 09:19:51 2014 No.12828800 >>12828762 I was just dissapointed that she never had real closure despite being essentially the main antagonist of PC-98. One last send off , even as a background character in a spinoff game would be nice.

Anonymous Wed Dec 24 09:37:58 2014 No.12828857

>>12828738
and the lunatic difficulty is like playing halo/halo2 on legendary at once on two screens and you get no checkpoints one life and one plasma pistol shot kills you and you are not allowed to use a mouse and keyboard only two controllers.

yeah.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 09:39:23 2014 No.12828862 >>12828857 Fuck that, it's a PC FPS, keyboard + mouse or bust.

>>	proREMIRIAt Elite Force Comman(...) !rSDMROXTB. Wed Dec 24 10:57:25 2014 No.12829050 >>12828454 Not being a cute, shy girl.

Anonymous Wed Dec 24 11:04:10 2014 No.12829064

>>12826542
But everything about your post is wrong anon

-Weather isn't random. It follows a fixed cycle and can be manipulated via cards and in-fight actions.

-getting 25-30% lifebar per combo is "shit damage" ? You either need to go play marvel or optimize your combos.

-You don't know how to use BEs but that's okay because they are irrelevant until you reach a certain level.

-The card system is the only part that can legitimately rustle fighter enthusiasts since the drawing order is the only true rng mechanism. But if you manage to deal with the whole rng thing (poker/mtg players can so why not others ?) it gives the game immense depth through moveset customization and deck optimization.

The rest of your post is just blatant ignorance of the game but I can't blame you for not putting a million hours into a game you don't like.

It's fun because in a way HM fixes all of soku's problems (removing weather, putting a time limit without encouraging defensive play, removing the random aspect of deckbuilding) yet the game is objectively worse.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 11:10:20 2014 No.12829077 >>12824754 Please don't call touhou 12.3 "UNL". If you absolutely want to name it in pseudo-english, you can call it "guignol", it's the only english word that is officially in the title. Otherwise please stick to "soku" or just "th12.3".

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 11:14:07 2014 No.12829086 >>12825583 >>12825790 >>12825772 Well, nobody said it was confirmed to be a fighting game. That's just speculation.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 11:16:06 2014 No.12829092 >>12829086 Yeah, this >>12825450 totally looks like some kind of RTS with RPG elements.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 11:21:21 2014 No.12829103 Holy FUCK no one liked HM's system why are they doing this again?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 11:56:57 2014 No.12829181 >>12829103 >game concepts are changed >why are they trying this again? learn 2 read faggit

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 11:58:36 2014 No.12829187 People hate HM because scrubs could defeat pros since the skill ceiling is lower.

Anonymous Wed Dec 24 12:12:51 2014 No.12829248

>>12829181
Not him, but the screenshot is more than enough to discern that the battle will take place in air only just like in HM, which implies a huge part of what made HM kusoge *willI* reappear in ULiL - the stupid floaty movement, some ghetto block punishing mechanic in lieu of high/low mixups and the cluttered 8-way deck instead of normal QC/DP movements. If these alone were enough to make HM flunk, then how could ULiL possibly be a contender to Soku?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 12:22:59 2014 No.12829291 this is the first touhou game I've actually been able to read the title of in japanese without help too bad i don't care about touhou anymore

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 12:38:28 2014 No.12829323 >>12829187 no, it's because it's annoying to play and unnatural, flying-only fighting games are a terrible idea.

Anonymous Wed Dec 24 13:33:23 2014 No.12829470

>>12829187
This is never true. Even in "scrubby" games the difference between pros and new players is considerable.

I am interested to see where they take the gameplay this time. As long as they make player interaction interesting I'm down for whatever.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 13:44:33 2014 No.12829496 >>12829187 HM was too slow. Even the combos were slow. I hope ULiL is faster.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 14:01:24 2014 No.12829522 >>12829291 nice blog post. now fuck off

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 15:25:04 2014 No.12829748 >>12829077 I think I will continue to call it UNL, and I think you will have to remain being angry about it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 17:33:06 2014 No.12830178 >>12828761 Reisen we know maybe was there during youkai invasion since we don't know her age.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 00:23:09 2014 No.12831063 >>12828583 How young?

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