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12618190 No.12618190 [Reply] [Original]

When is ZUN finally going to give fans what they want?

A couple of recent games were filled with boring characters with boring designs. Nobody cares about these characters at all. They don't even get porn and that is saying something.

When is he going to give fans the demongirls, monstergirls and foreign devils everybody wants?

>> No.12618197

>everyone
I'm sure you're talking out of your ass.

>> No.12618204

>>12618197

Kokoro is the only not horrible recent character and she's from a fighting game.

>> No.12618222

>>12618190
Given werewolf and mermaid

NOT ENUF MONSTER GIRLS.

wtf man, seriously.

>> No.12618229

>>12618190
>Werewolf
>Mermaid
>Dullahan
>Oni-Demon thing
>ᵗᶦᶰʸ ᵗᵒᵘʰᵒᵘ

The last game was blatant pandering to the monstergirl audience
What more do you want?

>> No.12618235

The only ones who are not getting any art are the ones from the latest game, Any of the others are getting their allocated smut daily, which is recovering since last Kancolle boom which seems to be subsiding rapidly.

But yeah, nobody cares about the latest Touhous. Maybe he should reuse the old ones rather than make new ones.

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>> No.12618260

>>12618222

But they suck.

And nobody cares about werewolves or mermaids. People want more devil lolis and vampires.

>> No.12618284

>>12618260
Speak for yourself

>> No.12618289

>>12618260
You also get yuri feet sisters, a body-swapping office lady drummer and a social outcast goblin with the power to reverse your gender, grow a penis and rail you in your new loli pussy until your mind breaks.

I don't get why people are saying DDC has a bad cast.

>> No.12618295

>>12618190
Oh christ
i got a boner

>> No.12618307

>>12618190
>giving fans what they want
an anime? soon. Zun is just waiting for Kancolle to disappear back in the nothing it spawned from, to be sure he can sell Touhou at full price to a multinational.
I give it three-four years at best.

>> No.12618338

>>12618289

Goblin is pretty good. Everybody else is boring as fuck.

>> No.12618345

>>12618190
> demongirls, monstergirls and foreign devils everybody wants
I don't want that. Please go back to your monstergirl threads, /a/ shitter.

>> No.12618462

>>12618260
That was done already, stop living in the god damn past.

>> No.12618462,1 [INTERNAL] 

wow...

>> No.12618465

>give fans what they want

Pandering, attention-whoring and money-grabing are good things, right?
Oh wait, you probably just think about your own ego and desires and not considering what Zun wants, that's even better, right?

>> No.12618487

>demongirls
I want ZUN to explore Makai again, and I'm not even a PC-98 nostalgiafag

>> No.12618487,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>12618462,1
DON'T bump shitty 2hu threads

>> No.12618528

>>12618487
But I want to see Chichinki again.

>> No.12618528,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>12618190
Don't forget the shipgirls!

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>>12618190
Go back to your general, sir. There are more than enough monstergrils anyway. I want a game with some of the characters from 6, 7, and 8 and maybe PC98. And maybe a nationalist 2hu that's the tsukmogami of an Arisaka raifu.

>> No.12618899

>>12618338
>Goblin is pretty good
it sucks. Wolf is much better.

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12618937

I want zun to make a dark elf or just a brown youkai.

Why is everybody in gensokyo white?

>> No.12618959

>>12618190
Go play a shitty monstergirl VN then.
Did you miss your furry thread perhaps?

>> No.12618971

>>12618959
Stop that.

>> No.12618974

>>12618307
ZUN doesn't want an anime, and the only "official" attempt got shut down by him even if it was a shitty spinoff. I don't want one either, what would it be about? A new incident? I'd rather play the game. An old incident? We have plenty of fan animations already. A manga tier SoL? I'd rather just read the manga, also ZUN SoLs are SLOW and without much CGDCT puns and stuff.

>> No.12618978

>>12618937
Cause black elven youkai are still in the real world in someone's basement getting raped 24/7

>> No.12618980

>>12618974
I wouldn't want a series or a spinoff but a movie about a new incident may be pretty neat.

>> No.12619013

>>12618190
>When is he going to give fans the demongirls, monstergirls and foreign devils everybody wants?

Can't you just go play a game centered on that instead.

>> No.12619016

>>12618959

How the hell are demons furry?

>> No.12619027

>>12618204
I think you mean that Kokoro is the only horrible recent character.

>> No.12619061

>>12619016
Hairy vaginas.

>> No.12619079

>>12619061

Humans are furry because of hairy heads.

>> No.12619140

>>12618260
I don't. They are fucking shit.

>> No.12619171
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I want a game where you play as Hong Meiling as the main character, and you shoot rainbow energy instead of say, amulet cards. Sakuya is the second optional character.

First boss - Cirno
Second boss - Rumia
Third Boss - Marisa
Fourth Boss - Reimu
Fifth Boss - Suwako
Final boss - That nameless monster Meiling never got to slap down.

Extra Boss is Meiling fighting Sakuya as the mid boss and both Scarlet Sisters at the end, at the same time.

>> No.12619190

>>12619171
Derped.

Extra boss is Meiling fighting PATCHOULI as the mid boss and both Scarlet Sisters at the end, at the same time.

>> No.12619243

>>12618190
i love all the newhous except byakushit

>> No.12619291

>>12619243
newhous defined as "new characters since I joined the fandom", right?

what's your cutoff? Mine is Subteranean Animism. Everything after that seems like strange OCs.

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WHAT IF: Bear with me here.

You could play as any Touhou you want, but all six of the bosses are MEN, and their missles are sperm?

You have three birth control pills for lives and condoms for bombs. If you lose all of your lives you get a picture of your touhou pregnant on the game over screen.

Extra stage involves you rescuing a touhou relevant to yours, and you fight a really hard boss.

Winning and beating all of the bosses gets a detailed win screen and the winning touhou banishes all men from Danmaku, explaining the current lack of men. It'd work.

>> No.12619303

Is that prima the imp?

>> No.12619313

Yeah, the newhus are pretty shit. Only the new 2hufriends think they aren't because they weren't around when 2hu truly was a passion project that had charm. Now it's being milked to death by ZUN and whatever remains of its fanbase, but hey, people just finding out about Touhou won't see it until a few years down the road.

>> No.12619329

>>12619313
>milked to death by ZUN
uhh

but zun, uh

wait you're just a retard

>> No.12619350

>>12619329
How childish.

>> No.12619390

>>12619313
>Now it's being milked to death by ZUN and whatever remains of its fanbase

So when ZUN or his fans make stuff you like, it's passion and charm, but when they make stuff you don't like, they're selling out?

>> No.12619416

>>12619390
Not selling out, but trying to get more out of something that's long since gone stale. I have no problem with him selling out; he should have allowed an official anime.

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>>12619416
>he should have allowed an official anime.

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>>12619416
>he should have allowed an official anime.

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>>12618260
>hating mermaids

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As a side note, I'd dig a spinoff with Orin, Shou, Reisen and maybe Futo as playable characters instead of Marisa and Reimu. If we could get Cirno fighting a war then we can get youkai solving incidents too.

>> No.12627343

>>12619416
Take off your nostalgia goggles already.
We got it, "2hu is declining since SA", "EoSD and PCB are the only good 2hus" etc. Nobody is forcing you to follow Touhou, just go away already.

> I have no problem with him selling out; he should have allowed an official anime.
Now that would kill Touhou.

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>>12627318
I'd dig that as well but they really aren't MC material, especially Shou.

>> No.12627671

I would like to see Touhou anime on three conditions:
1) ZUN is not the screenwriter (and definitely not the director) of the anime. He should be only a supervisor so the real scenarist and director don't make obvious fuck ups with the lore.
2) ZUN is credited as screenwriter (even though he is not) so we won't have those retarded discussions regarding if anime is canon or not.
3) Since such anime would kill touhou as it is now it should be released only when touhou is completely dead to give it a second life.

>> No.12630793

>>12618235
Kancolle has reached it's lifespan?

>> No.12630824

Touhou don't even wear hats anymore

FUCKING ZUN YOU HACK

I want ZUN to remove the hat he wears if he's going to stop drawing characters with them I bet he'll look just as stupid without one as they do

>> No.12630827

>>12627671
>1) ZUN is not the screenwriter (and definitely not the director) of the anime.
No.

>> No.12630832

>>12627456
Reisen already is the MC of her own manga.

Now she just needs her own game.

>> No.12630878

>>12630824
laughingkaguya.3gp

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>>12630824
We have hatless 2hus since the PC98 era you dummy.

>> No.12630887

>>12627671
>1) ZUN is not the screenwriter (and definitely not the director) of the anime.

ZUN would rather kill himself by eating diapers than having that and I would understand. If you don't like what ZUN does just change game.

>> No.12630987

>>12630887
>If you don't like what ZUN does just change game.
I don't like ZUN's writing.
There's a huge difference between in-game dialogues and actual book, manga or anime. In-game dialogues are just fillers between the actual content - gameplay. Dialogues are absolutely not important thing for STGs. Throw few jokes, allusions, silly comments and you're good. In anime (book or manga) it is not enough, dialogues have significantly more important role. And obviously you need to fill the 'space' between dialogues with some events/actions. And ZUN just sucks at it. His writing is ultimately boring, unfunny and poorly worded. You can pick any non-h doujin on sadpanda with rating more than 4.5 and it would be better than any ZUN's print work.

Just try to imagine anime based for example on CoLA. Would you watch it? No, the real question is: would ANYONE besides you watch it?

Also when there is a film based on a book/franchisee, it's extremely rare for the actual author to be a scenarist (or director). Because author knows that while he's good at writing he may suck at film making.

>> No.12630990

>>12630987
I wouldn't watch CoLA because I already read CoLA, I highly doubt any anime adaption is going to be as good considering CoLA is about deciphering words, not animation.

The same point rings true, ZUN is the spirit behind 2hu, if you don't like his writing fine, but it's supposed to be official, it gotta have ZUN writing and/or direction, that is all.

>> No.12631005

>>12630987
That's your opinion mang.

>> No.12631018

>>12630990
Well, I don't need it to be official. If it's good I'll enjoy it anyway just like I enjoy majority of touhou fan videos on nico/youtube.
My problem with that would be /jp/ and its "elitism". Even if the anime would have a warning "guys, this anime is not canon" in the beginning of each episode it would still become a new IOSYS as a target for hate. It would be impossible to discuss it. It would be hard to discuss anything at all, every thread would be filled with complains about newfags and new-gen secondaries.

>>12631005
I'm not alone in it. See: every WaHH/FS/SSiB thread ever.

>> No.12631025

>>12631018
Well then don't discuss it on /jp/.

/jp/'s elitism is ultimately keeping the 2hu fanbase (on /jp/ at least) from ruining itself and making shit up.

And even if you are not alone, I'm not alone in liking ZUN's print works either.

>> No.12631028

>>12631018
Well, I don't see much hate on Memories of Phantasm and Summer's Day Dream, since we know it's fanmade.

>> No.12631035

>>12631028
Then you are new.

Just lurk the archive.

Summer Day's Dream is often criticized for being memic moeshit while Memories of Phantasm is basically 2hu streamlined and some parts changed to be more like normal animu.

>> No.12631036

lol who the fuck cares about touhou

it's just facebook-tier shit for normies

>> No.12631043

>>12631028
They are not popular enough to attract lots of new fans. They are nothing close to IOSYS videos. I even remember /jp/'s hate towards Bad Apple which didn't have any memes.

To be honest I might be indeed wrong and /jp/ has changed. In the end when was the last time IOSYS was mentioned here? I changed my mind, remove condition #2 from >>12627671.

>> No.12631050

>>12631043
If it's an "official" 2hu anime, and it doesn't have ZUN name on it, I would be the first to ignore it.

What's the point?

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>>12631035
I don't know, man. I've been in those discussions but I think the "hate" isn't that big, at least compared to if Touhou really getting an official anime that failed to meet the standard.

>> No.12631061

Oh boy, another one of these posts. Typical /jp/.

Touhou's only been getting better and better lately. I'm glad ZUN doesn't care about anything anyone here says.

>> No.12631062

>>12631052
I remember the discussion regarding plot was pretty heated until everyone calm down and agree that because it's fan work, it doesn't matter.

Obviously, the reaction would be a lot worse if it's official.

>> No.12631065

Oh, and the best 2hu "anime" so far are KamS videos.

>> No.12631067

>>12619171
Too many fanworks play Meiling off as a joke character. I mean I get it, she is a martial artist in a world where most fights are ranged danmaku fights. But then the same could also be said of Youmu and her swordsmanship.

>> No.12631073

>>12631067
She's a joke character even in Soku storymode.

>> No.12631078

>>12631067
I think the reason is because she's indeed some sort of buttjoke in IaMP.

Also, Meiling already got her own Story mode in Soku, it's more than enough for her.

>> No.12631186
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24 episode 2hu anime, it takes 2 episodes to cover each game. Aoi Yuki voices Patchouli and Aya Endo voices Yukari. There's also a Cage in Lunatic Runagate movie.

>> No.12631195

>>12631186
pls no 2hu anime pls

>> No.12631230

>>12631186
Chiba Saeko as Reimu
Tamura Mutsumi as Marisa
Whatever the hell her name is that played blonde Milky Holmes and Spaghetti-chan as Patchouli

not that I actually want to see a 2hu anime

>> No.12631255

>>12618190
I like Seija and Miko.
Music and stages are good.

>> No.12631282

After Kancolle anime fails horribly (and it will) and all boat fans start blaming anime on the death of the franchise (despite the fact it's already dying) ZUN will be even more convinced Touhou anime should never happen.

>> No.12631290

Funny how OP thinks his shitty /a/ monstergirl circlejerk represents the overall opinion of fans. Fuck off.

>> No.12631293

>>12631282
That shit will sell no matter how bad it is. Are you retarded?

>> No.12631404

>>12631293

If you really think boats popularity is real and not Kadokawa's marketing you are beyond help. It's already crashing down.

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The Touhou formula will never change, if you don't like it just drop it.

>> No.12633376

I'm okay with any character ZUN makes. I just cant wait for new ones for some reason.

>> No.12633943

>>12631035

Being criticized by some people does not equal widespread hate.

Especially Memories of Phantasm received a widely positive response.

>> No.12633957

>>12633943
It's tough to know really because for the longest time I thought /jp/ hated Memories of Phantasm.

>> No.12633964

>>12633957

I saw countless threads with people fapping to nude Rumia.

>> No.12633966

>>12633957
Based on a couple of threads I read on the archive I might add, I find it rather decent myself, I'd probably reject it if it's official, but since it's fan work, it's okay.

>> No.12633967

>>12633964
That's rather normal though.

>> No.12634105

>>12633964
What... when did this happen

Was Rumia even there in the hotspring scenes?

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>>12618190
What the fuck are you talking about?

Last Touhou had a mermaid, dullahan / rokurokubi, a werewolf that's plenty of western stuff.

>> No.12634152

>>12634124

But they suck. People want loli demons and loli vampires.

>> No.12634275

>>12634152
Go play Scarlet Devil again, then go back to /a/.

>> No.12634745

>>12634152
>But they suck.
Nope. People like the grassroots youkai.

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>>12634152
>people

Who

>> No.12636871

>>12636858
This picture would be more fun if Sekibanki's body weren't also learning to the left.

>> No.12636888

>>12636871
Why?

>> No.12636895

>>12636888
Probably to show that her head isn't attached to her body.

>> No.12636909

>>12636871
Not every picture has to play up the whole headless thing, it's fine to give it a rest once in a while. The subtle blush and totally half-assed victory sign on Sekibanki is already a masterpiece.

>> No.12636963

All I want is a brown or tanned 2hu.

>> No.12636964

>>12636963
No niggers please.

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>>12636964
In 2D, brown skin makes a girl 10% cuter.

>> No.12636982

>>12636980
It does make Reimu look even poorer alright.

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>>12636982
It does. But that's one of Reimu's cute points.

>> No.12637047

>>12634152
This is the proof that people swallow things without any intelligent substance.

TH06 characters don't have any thoughts put into it. We have some Youkai, some fairies and a cliche'd loli devil guff.

When TH07 came out, they start making character with substance. Like Yuyuko was probably based or related to a certain poet, and the complexity of Yukari herself. And ever since, There's a new character with some hint of relation with myth/folklore.

>> No.12637051

>>12637047
Touhou steeps itself in Japanese mythology and history, and 95% of /jp/'s pre-Touhou knowledge of those fields are jack shit.

"Being Prince Shoutoku" does not automatically give a character intelligent substance anyway, not any more than Eiyuu Senki is automatically deep because you get to fuck Napoleon.

>> No.12637083

>>12636980
That's because she isn't drawn with primate features.

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>>12618190
What's the name of this little stretched muscle or whatever between the inner thigh and the baby hole? It does things to me

>> No.12637096

>>12637095
that's the vagina bone dude

>> No.12637104

>>12637095
adductor

>> No.12637106

>>12637096
top kek

>> No.12639667

>>12637095
It's just a crease. a folding of skin. Something very difficult to shave.

>> No.12639739

>>12637095
This
>>12637104
Adductor Magnus.

>> No.12639765

>>12631035
Memories of Phantasm episode 1 was good. But when they get to SDM storyline, it's generic Anime crap.

>> No.12639823

>>12639667
>Being obese
get off /jp/ fatty

>> No.12641969

>>12631035
>Summer Day's Dream is often criticized for being memic moeshit while Memories of Phantasm is basically 2hu streamlined and some parts changed to be more like normal animu.
Yeah, I kind of feel that way. I'm inclined to be more charitable towards SDD just because it has more atmosphere, and feels somehow more Gensokyo-ish than MoP, which is just Touhou streamlined down to its basic, most mainstream elements.

>> No.12642079

i think the only touhou anime that could work would be a slice of life anime. No real plot, just short stories of characters interacting (being dicks) with each other. Daily lives of flying girls if you want.

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>>12631186
Norio Wakamoto needs a part.

He just needs a part.

Maybe as Namazu.

>> No.12647623,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>12631025
Uhhhhhhhhh, /jp/ is hardly elitist anymore.

>> No.12647623,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>12647623,1
It has a lot of people trying to be elitist still and it's pathetic

>> No.12647623,3 [INTERNAL] 

>>12647623,1
this is why i had to go to /a/ to get my dose of people telling me what to do

>> No.12647623,4 [INTERNAL] 

>>12618190
The thumbnail makes her leg look like a huge futanari dick!

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