Will Reimu ever grow up in the official lore or will she just be stuck being a bitter little girl forever because her parents left her all alone in a shitty world full of pissed off youkai. Zun needs to advance the timeline and bring in a new generation of main characters.

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Anonymous Wed Oct 15 22:48:41 2014 No.12595809 [Reply] [Original]

Will Reimu ever grow up in the official lore or will she just be stuck being a bitter little girl forever because her parents left her all alone in a shitty world full of pissed off youkai.

Zun needs to advance the timeline and bring in a new generation of main characters.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 15 22:53:32 2014 No.12595828 >>12595809 I like the look of that Reimu She looks primal and aggressive in her position and the look she is giving the viewer, yet still kinda smug

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 15 22:55:20 2014 No.12595835 File: 439 KB, 700x1000, 1318229242862.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Zun needs to advance the timeline and bring in a new generation of main characters. take out the most popular character sounds pretty smart, dude.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 15 22:57:35 2014 No.12595841 File: 648 KB, 1011x716, 1278151905675.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12595835 i think it would be really neat to have a new main miko. Having a covnersation with yukari about the previous miko would give me massive nostalgia boner.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 15 23:38:53 2014 No.12595938 >>12595841 Wow, dude, that image is LEEEWWWD.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 18:58:16 2014 No.12598195 File: 163 KB, 1200x1600, 96dbeefce4e950b2ba030e78a453b39b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] an older reimu might be cool.

Anonymous Thu Oct 16 19:15:45 2014 No.12598229
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>>12595841
Just make Sanae a new main protag.
She's a demigod so that makes her young forever.

2hu would be about realizing the plan of modernization and advertising Moriya activities.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 19:25:18 2014 No.12598257 File: 425 KB, 500x375, 1413398136072.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12598229 What if Sanae and Reimu had a final battle to determine who would be the new Shrine Maiden of gensokyo?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 19:29:05 2014 No.12598269 >>12598257 Reimu wins because she can call forth the assistance of many gods. Meanwhile Saynay is just some outsider girl who got god powers and the assistance of 2 other gods. Of course, this carries over when they're fighting on top of the bed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 19:31:41 2014 No.12598275 >>12595809 Do you even play the games/read the written works? Reimu has changed already.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 19:34:18 2014 No.12598283 File: 452 KB, 700x1033, 1357597560958.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12598275 i've played the games, reimu hasnt really changed at all in them. I havnt read any of the side works or mangas though. How does she change?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 19:39:26 2014 No.12598301 File: 1.02 MB, 776x430, yelling mikos.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12598257 It's the only way to dethrone Reimu from her main protag seat.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 19:43:32 2014 No.12598312 >>12598283 She stepped up her game and leveled up from keeping fairies in her backyard tree to keeping a really tiny midget in her home.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 19:47:00 2014 No.12598326 If ZUN did that there'd be suicide threats up the ass and some otaku would eventually kill him. And isn't the whole point of loli stuff that the characters never grow up?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 19:49:14 2014 No.12598334 >>12598283 >I don't read the plot and never will >I demand more plot

Anonymous Thu Oct 16 19:51:31 2014 No.12598346

>>12598283
>>12598283
Well, in PC-98 she was a clumsy inexperienced semi bitchy character.
In the windows game she's pretty smug due to the nature of the dialogues where smug and charism is all.

In the written works she's more calm all around. Her personality changes according to the situation. >>12597214
She's pretty much still Reimu though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 19:51:31 2014 No.12598347 File: 291 KB, 563x700, 2b579e2f589888e4d18c26314a63382b1f4a148d.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] reimu will always be a little girl!

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 19:56:07 2014 No.12598366 File: 325 KB, 962x1200, f04def0e29319e75e4b3adfa6c05ad92.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12598346 Weren't the pc98 games retconned and everything was rebooted with the windows games?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 19:57:11 2014 No.12598371 File: 308 KB, 431x436, Raymoo.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12595809 She's in her 20s, dude. Heck, half her characterization in FS is wanting to look like a good role model to the younger generation.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 19:59:04 2014 No.12598376 >>12598371 Old enough then

Anonymous Thu Oct 16 20:06:16 2014 No.12598397

>>12595809
Touhou official material always takes place within a few months of when it's released; we even have specific dates thanks to Aya's newspapers. Time in Gensokyo progresses at the same rate as the real world.

Akyuu was introduced as a nine-year-old in 2006, and she's currently depicted as a teenager.

It's been 12 years since EoSD was released, and 17 since HRtP; Reimu is a Christmas Cake by now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 20:08:26 2014 No.12598405 File: 109 KB, 850x991, 1334487822460.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12598397 2hu is gonna end soon. RIP 2hu.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 20:08:53 2014 No.12598407 >>12598405 Well Akyuu is going to die soon, at the very least.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 20:22:27 2014 No.12598454 >>12598407 she needs to get knocked up soon to, don't they die at like 30? She is what? 19?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 20:24:49 2014 No.12598462 >>12598454 Even if she did, it would still remove her as a character. This isn't Galzoo Island, she doesn't just spawn a loli Akyu when she gets too old. It takes a century or so before the next heir is born.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 20:24:54 2014 No.12598463 File: 653 KB, 1174x1500, 824545.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12598454

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 20:26:03 2014 No.12598465 File: 751 KB, 1174x1500, 824456.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12598463

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 20:26:06 2014 No.12598466 >>12598463 BURN BUUURN

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 20:27:47 2014 No.12598471 I've always believe ZUN will pull a fast one and turn Reimu either into a youkai matching Yukari or a goddess.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 21:46:58 2014 No.12598686 File: 785 KB, 1920x1200, b21e4167e274688481569fa7f3393a70.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] But she is growing up. And not sure if it's canonical, but I just assumed her youthful appearance was a side effect of magic or some such.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 21:48:32 2014 No.12598691 >>12595809 this is just like the pokemon debate with ash ketchum's age, if they aged in real time, reimu would be in her mid 30's or 40 by now. almost twenty years of touhou

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 21:52:22 2014 No.12598701 >>12598301 Remeber when Sanae beat Reimu in touhou 10. Owait. She didn't and she never will

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 21:54:49 2014 No.12598710 I'm more concerned with her clothes. I mean does she have a dresser full of white and red? If she does, damn she's one stylish miko.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 22:08:33 2014 No.12598743 >>12598701 Hisoutensoku.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 22:27:46 2014 No.12598782 >>12598743 Sanae beat Reimu as much as Cirno beat Utsuho.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 22:33:54 2014 No.12598796 >>12598782 Yeah, no. Sanae won that fight. That's all there is to it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 22:37:08 2014 No.12598805 >>12595809 That is one sexy looking Reimu.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 22:37:19 2014 No.12598807 >>12598782 Cirno won because she's the strongest!

>>	Nipples Thu Oct 16 22:41:21 2014 No.12598814 File: 435 KB, 1024x1024, 1411230834759.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12598805

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 22:45:10 2014 No.12598822 >>12598814 Nice!

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 22:47:17 2014 No.12598829 File: 252 KB, 1131x1600, reimu14.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12598805

Anonymous Thu Oct 16 22:49:27 2014 No.12598832

>>12598229
>Just make Sanae a new main protag.
Why? She's boring and a super generic moeblob. She's also weak and isn't liked by all the youkai in Gensokyo, unlike Reimu, and that's the gist of the youkai characters ever appearing. If it were Sanae then it'd be boring nothingness all day.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 22:50:52 2014 No.12598836 >>12598366 Doesn't seem that way seeing as how Alice and Yuuka are back, also in PMiSS it's shown that prior to EoSD there were no spellcard rules, which would explain why Orange could die.

Anonymous Thu Oct 16 22:52:03 2014 No.12598838

>>12598397
>Time in Gensokyo progresses at the same rate as the real world.
Wrong, ZUN said that time in Gensokyo is much slower than the real world. It's why Reimu still looks like a little girl and only 18 years since her first appearance did her breasts finally bud through her bust-decreasing sarashi.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 22:53:55 2014 No.12598844 >>12598743 Reimu didn't even summon the gods, or use Fantasy Heaven for that matter. Some fight that was.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 22:58:30 2014 No.12598850 File: 478 KB, 917x1280, 27.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12595809 >>12598283 maybe you should start reading the print works.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 23:00:01 2014 No.12598856 >>12598471 iirc her shrine maiden status makes her able to promote to a goddess somehow but she said she doesn't want to be one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 23:01:40 2014 No.12598859 Reminder that it will all end when CtC begins.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 23:03:28 2014 No.12598865 File: 612 KB, 768x768, 1269805638637.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12598844 You're right. Maybe if she had she wouldn't have gotten her ass kicked.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 23:33:06 2014 No.12598940 >>12598865 The only thing Sanae is better than Reimu is on the old art of sucking dicks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 23:39:41 2014 No.12598953 File: 83 KB, 346x347, 1409790210159.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] defending Sanae

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 08:27:35 2014 No.12600051 she is between 24 - 26 years old.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 08:31:14 2014 No.12600056 >>12598366 No, ZUN said they're canon, but if there are inconsistencies with the windows game you pick the second ones as the real canon. Basically they are't 100% canon but they happened.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 08:33:59 2014 No.12600059

>>12598838
>Wrong, ZUN said that time in Gensokyo is much slower than the real world

I think I've heard something about that but I'm not really sure, source?

>>12598865
Reimu sometimes loses for whatever reason, rarely but she does, even Marisa wins against her sometimes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 09:19:14 2014 No.12600150 File: 297 KB, 744x1052, c8946e9e002d1b3bf86d341b3e21df82.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12600051 How old is Sakuya then?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 09:44:13 2014 No.12600180 File: 27 KB, 634x470, 1413553453315.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'll just go ahead and assume that she actually did inhale some of Remilia's ash.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 10:15:27 2014 No.12600215
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>>12600180
I like the one where Flan killed everyone in SDM except for Remilia who was able to put her down, Remilia killing Reimu and transforming her into a vampire out of depression, and Reimu becoming nothing more than shell of her former self more.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 13:52:08 2014 No.12600667 >>12600150 Bitch has the ability to control time. You're telling me she can't manipulate her own age?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 14:05:08 2014 No.12600696 >>12595835 Why does Japan love Reimu so much anyway? She has nothing that really makes her stand out besides being a grump.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 14:24:16 2014 No.12600758 File: 453 KB, 1017x1440, img000006.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12600696 I like Reimu.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 14:34:15 2014 No.12600786 >>12600696 She's poor. Comically poor.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 14:35:45 2014 No.12600789 File: 240 KB, 500x500, 46315734_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Reimu needs serious parental guidance. >>12595809 Seriously though, she grew up a lot through the years. Read them mangas.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 14:38:17 2014 No.12600801 >>12600696 Japans' popularity polls are really weird. Look at the most recent one http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/THWiki_Popularity_Poll >Chen less popular than Daiyousei

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 14:42:15 2014 No.12600815 File: 319 KB, 1024x768, e0077326_2332212.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12600801 >Yuuka sinking to 13th

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 14:53:10 2014 No.12600862 >>12600786 She's not though

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 15:20:45 2014 No.12600927 File: 3.24 MB, 1273x1800, reimu got hit2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12600059 Still no. Reimu loses a lot. Almost everyone from the fighters and everyone in PoFV has beaten her at least once.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 15:24:03 2014 No.12600940 >>12598326 Zun never intended them to be lolis, you dumbass. His art is just shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 18:08:19 2014 No.12601457 >>12600927 >and everyone in PoFV has beaten her at least once. How? Nowhere does it say or even hint that everyone's story is canon. Neither is IaMP for that matter, only SWR.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 18:14:15 2014 No.12601472 >>12601457 Nowhere does it say that anything ZUN ever wrote is canon. Therefore, you can safely ignore it and substitute your own version. Feel free. I will feel free to laugh at you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 18:14:49 2014 No.12601473 >>12601457 Eh, shaky details. Regardless of which one is canon, they all COULD be canon.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 18:17:05 2014 No.12601486
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>>12600696
>She has nothing that really makes her stand out besides being a grump.
she's probs the only character that gets characer development besides Kokoro in her game.

look up the in-universe reason of why youkai like Reimu, also that grumpiness might as well be an act.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 18:17:22 2014 No.12601490 >>12600927 This thread is now about legs. Are fat legs better than skinny legs?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 18:18:22 2014 No.12601497 >>12600786 That's just a meme, in reality she has a huge garden from where she gets fruits and sake ingredients as well as a nearby river from where she can fish as shown in the fairies manga.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 18:19:26 2014 No.12601505 >>12601472 Now you're just being desperate.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 18:22:50 2014 No.12601526 >>12600758 Sanae's such a party pooper, what a boring girl.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 18:24:35 2014 No.12601533 File: 430 KB, 725x1028, 1403358715856.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If ZUN advance his timeline further, i could just make Reimu a hermit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 18:25:49 2014 No.12601538 File: 414 KB, 1125x1650, 01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12601526 She just doesn't want to drink.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 18:26:21 2014 No.12601541 File: 506 KB, 911x1280, 31.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12601533

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 18:27:12 2014 No.12601545 >>12601473 Could, not must.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 18:27:55 2014 No.12601548 File: 182 KB, 190x190, 1387870906914.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12601541 That's the entire point. Youkai exterminators can become hermits quite easily.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 18:28:32 2014 No.12601551 >>12601538 Like a fucking pussy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 18:29:17 2014 No.12601553 >>12601486 Kosuzu and Nitori got some too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 18:29:18 2014 No.12601554 >>12601545 Yeah? The possibility is the point.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 18:30:39 2014 No.12601563 >>12601554 >Still no. Reimu loses a lot. Almost everyone from the fighters and everyone in PoFV has beaten her at least once. Then elaborate your sentences better!

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 18:32:16 2014 No.12601569 File: 375 KB, 3507x2480, Suika Suku.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12601551 Drinking with an oni that have an infinite sake gourd is bad for you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 18:32:33 2014 No.12601570 File: 15 KB, 210x250, reimu is mad2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12601563 Hmph. It counts.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 18:32:44 2014 No.12601571 >>12601554 uh no, certainty is the point here.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 18:34:46 2014 No.12601577 >>12601571 Not mine.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 18:35:48 2014 No.12601582 >>12601577 not in this discussion which was a post claiming everyone in PoFV has beaten her once.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 18:37:15 2014 No.12601589 File: 592 KB, 700x822, 1411571512077.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why Reimu such an Youkai magnet? It's one of the main reasons why the villagers are trying to avoid her shrine.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 18:38:26 2014 No.12601595 File: 71 KB, 219x244, reimu dispair.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12601582 Arrgh. Fine. They're still canon enough to consider, at least.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 18:39:48 2014 No.12601603 File: 686 KB, 850x637, reimusuikaremilia.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12601589 pheromones emitted by her armpit sweat attracts the youkai.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 18:48:37 2014 No.12601644 File: 304 KB, 540x540, 1396317534787.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12601603 Them pheromones.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 19:21:52 2014 No.12601790 File: 758 KB, 727x908, 1373595185731.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] reimu is a big girl~

proREMIRIAt Elite Force Comman(...) !rSDMROXTB. Fri Oct 17 19:53:48 2014 No.12601894

>>12598838
SDM appeared in Gensokyo before/during 1998.
(http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Bohemian_Archive_in_Japanese_Red/Lunasa))

>It's said that the raucous Scarlet Mist incident caused by that vampire was the first time the spell card rules were put to use.
And it was Reimu the shrine maiden who had to deal with this incident.

>The last entry in SoPM seems to be "October 30th, 2011".

So, Reimu is at least 13 years older since EoSD.
I wonder how old she is, taking into account she was talking and behaving like a grown girl already during EoSD.

I told you to bet on eternal lolis.

>>12601790
Ahh, I want to bite her belly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 20:00:48 2014 No.12601915 File: 730 KB, 1000x1000, reimu power1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12601894 Don't eat the miko. She'll beat you up.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 20:00:54 2014 No.12601917

>>12601894
>>So, Reimu is at least 13 years older since EoSD.
Wrong, ZUN said that he wouldn't even reveal their ages since that would mean that he might have to keep track of their age. Time goes much slower in Gensokyo for the sake of characters keeping their youth.

It's why the very first Reimu in HRtP looks older and more developed than every other Reimu, time matters jack shit.

>>	proREMIRIAt Elite Force Comman(...) !rSDMROXTB. Fri Oct 17 20:02:39 2014 No.12601924 File: 3 KB, 140x141, 1317363851520.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12601917 Don't worry, I want to believe as well.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 20:06:48 2014 No.12601935 >>12601924 But it's the truth, it's ZUN's own words.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 20:15:27 2014 No.12601964 File: 754 KB, 1200x849, reimu loves you so much.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I wonder how many guys in the village have a crush on Reimu. There's gotta be some, right?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 20:21:11 2014 No.12601980 File: 254 KB, 600x600, reimumeira2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12601964 there's only one person who Reimu loves.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 20:22:59 2014 No.12601986 File: 98 KB, 480x640, reimu4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12601980 I find that very hard to believe. Do you mean there's only one person Reimu loves?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 20:25:08 2014 No.12601990 File: 169 KB, 850x694, reimumeira3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12601986 yes anon, that's exactly what I said, you don't need to delete your post in shame.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 20:27:22 2014 No.12601998 File: 404 KB, 666x795, reimu21.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12601990 Damn it. im the best at reading Reimu would love more people if she knew more guys, maybe.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 20:29:22 2014 No.12602002 >>12601935 Care to give me the source? I'm curious about that. I've never cared about age progression until I discovered touhou, now I have these sad chills like in that Gilgamesh story.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 20:32:34 2014 No.12602011

>>12602002
http://www.gensokyo.org/archives/92
>Q: What age are Marisa and Reimu now?
>ZUN: Hmm, it’s been twelve years, just how old *is* Reimu, anyway? If I say how old she is, she’ll have to keep getting older. Suffice it to say they’re getting older. Besides, if she gets too old, I’m afraid some day she’d get too old to play danmaku.

there's also this
>ZUN: “Nintendo’s Wii and DS are very interesting.”
>Announcer: “Have you ever thought, ‘It would be nice to make a game for this?’”
>ZUN: “Well, yes. Things like, ‘Hmm, it would be interesting to do that to Reimu with a touch pen … “
>Announcer: “Ummm.”

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 20:34:10 2014 No.12602015 File: 218 KB, 1093x612, reimu blush~.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12602011 Oh my.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 20:37:24 2014 No.12602029 File: 248 KB, 1000x750, reimulegs2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12602011 Even ZUN wants to touch Reimu.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 20:39:58 2014 No.12602035 >>12602011 >Besides, if she gets too old, I’m afraid some day she’d get too old to play danmaku. ;_;

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 20:54:14 2014 No.12602068 >>12602035 There are plenty of old hags in 2hu who can danmaku just fine, I'm sure Reimu would do okay.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 20:57:28 2014 No.12602080 >>12602068 >There are plenty of old hags in 2hu who can danmaku just fine and they're youkai, not human.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 20:58:17 2014 No.12602085 >>12602080 So there's only one choice for the Eternal Shrine Maiden.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 20:58:41 2014 No.12602086 File: 128 KB, 1280x720, 1328964665686.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12602080 the old hags are youkai though. reimu is just a boring human.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 21:02:41 2014 No.12602090 >>12602085 becoming a goddess, which is the next evolution for a shrine maiden. she doesn't want to though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 21:03:05 2014 No.12602092 File: 83 KB, 683x649, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12602086 B-But Reimu's a cute boring human. She can't just die.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 21:03:14 2014 No.12602094 File: 282 KB, 600x847, 64e3ca46a9d72b5de32b0c611d3efe31.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] isnt marisa considered more youkai than human at this point? must be sad to watch reimu grow old and die...

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 21:03:55 2014 No.12602097 >>12602011 I asked for the part where ZUN says the Gensokyo time is slower than ours, not where he says he doesn't want to tell us Reimu's age because we'd start doing what we're doing right now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 21:04:20 2014 No.12602098 >>12602090 I think she might end up becoming one by accident... It just seems like something she'd do.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 21:04:35 2014 No.12602099 >>12602094 >isnt marisa considered more youkai than human at this point? No? Where did you get that from?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 21:05:43 2014 No.12602102 >>12602097 Reimu still being a little girl after 18 years since her first appearance is not proof enough for you?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 21:10:48 2014 No.12602123 File: 303 KB, 600x850, reimu24.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12602068 Not humans. The idea of Reimu losing her youth and energy is sad...

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 21:12:51 2014 No.12602129 File: 1.28 MB, 846x1000, reimu and marisa3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12602094 I'm pretty sure she's still mostly human, but who knows how long will that last.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 21:15:42 2014 No.12602138 >>12602102 She could have started HRtP at the age of 4 for all I know. Also she does look older now anyway. Also we can even say her powers give her a little more longevity and same goes for Marisa since she's since almost youkai tier.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 21:17:01 2014 No.12602139
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>>12602138
>Also she does look older now anyway.
Actually she looks younger.
> and same goes for Marisa since she's since almost youkai tier.
No she isn't. Stop saying this already.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 21:19:53 2014 No.12602146 File: 9 KB, 245x244, Th04Reimu.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12602139 Reimu de-ages a lot from TH1 to TH2.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 21:23:03 2014 No.12602155 File: 78 KB, 500x500, 1339643364740.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] All that matters is she's cute.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 21:40:43 2014 No.12602208 File: 276 KB, 1024x1024, 37156394.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Reimu is just Reimu

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 21:42:28 2014 No.12602215 File: 19 KB, 128x128, reimu wave2.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12602208 And we wouldn't have it any other way.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 21:46:21 2014 No.12602231 File: 73 KB, 202x380, reimuddc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12602208 she grew boobs, bigger than what they seem since they're noticeable despite her bust-decreasing sarashi.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 21:48:14 2014 No.12602241

Marisa can fail knowing that even if she couldn't win, Reimu will probably manage somehow.

Reimu never has this back-up, if she couldn't do it, the only choice left for her is to try again, again until she wins because it's the Shrine maiden's responsibility to resolve incident.

For Marisa, incident resolution is fun adventure.
For Reimu, it is a job, which explains Reimu's grumpy and lazy nature.

Still, Yukari especially made Gensokyo's existence tied with her so she's basically untouchable/cannot be killed if the villains value their own lives.

Though I don't know what would happen if say, the Watatsuki killed Reimu that time on the moon, Yorihime doesn't need Gensokyo.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 21:50:14 2014 No.12602247 File: 344 KB, 1418x2000, CiLR tea party.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12602241 >the only choice left for her is to try again even when she loses she has tea parties with the enemy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 21:52:13 2014 No.12602261 >>12602247 That's a particular example when the enemies are being nice and helpful.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 21:52:41 2014 No.12602263 >>12602247 >>12602241 and also when she lost against Sanae (whom she was suspecting of having started some shoddy shit in the underground, she was right), she just left.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 21:55:16 2014 No.12602277 >>12602263 We're not even talking about that anymore, anon.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 21:55:27 2014 No.12602280

>>12602261
the enemies in MoF were also being ''nice and helpful'' in their perspective.

it doesn't make sense for her to have tried something again most of the time, like in SA where if she failed once it'd mean Gensokyo would be way hotter nowadays.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 21:56:29 2014 No.12602286 >>12602277 What does the previous mention of that have to do with this one? This time is about a claim that she has to try again when she fails yet that's yet to be shown.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 21:56:55 2014 No.12602287 >>12602280 Well, the enemies in MoF aren't nice and helpful in Reimu's perspective. Even Reimu acknowledges that she's the bad guy when she invades the moon.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 21:58:04 2014 No.12602291
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>>12602280
I like how Reimu saved Gensokyo a few times already from complete ass fuckery but the humans probably never acknowledged that and moved on with their lives. The same going with Reimu after having victory drinking parties.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 21:59:43 2014 No.12602296 >>12602286 The bad endings?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:00:06 2014 No.12602297 >>12602291 she's bipolar: >>12601486 or deliberately hiding things.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:00:12 2014 No.12602300 >>12602286 Oh. My mistake. And it was Suwako doing shit that time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:01:54 2014 No.12602304 >>12602297 How in hell is she bipolar?

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:02:09 2014 No.12602307

>>12602296
What about them? There's no hint that they ever actually happened, just a what-if. It wouldn't make sense for the dialogue and meetings of each boss of the first trip to repeat itself the next time, especially the aforementioned SA where failing once would mean the Gensokyo surface becoming a new hell.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:02:30 2014 No.12602308 File: 459 KB, 2000x340, reimu through the ages.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12602291 What makes you say she isn't credited for saving the day?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:03:24 2014 No.12602311 >>12602308 Akyuu doesn't believe her stories concerning some serious incidents, IIRC.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:03:55 2014 No.12602313 File: 524 KB, 917x1280, 21.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12602304 because sometimes she's like this. and other times she's like >>12601486

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:04:36 2014 No.12602315 >>12602307 It depends on the particular games. Technically all the routes in IN happen somehow because Kaguya happen to come and recruit all the IN teams to fight Mokou, and that's kinda impossible if we follow each route strictly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:05:16 2014 No.12602319 >>12602315 >Technically all the routes in IN happen where does it say that?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:05:24 2014 No.12602320 >>12602313 I think that's just her two sides, one concerning her job as a shrine maiden, one concerning her being Reimu. Now fucking way in hell that pertains to a mental disorder. Probably more like a hypocrite.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:07:37 2014 No.12602328

>>12602320
>one concerning her job as a shrine maiden, one concerning her being Reimu
But there's no difference in scenario here, in both times this is the post-battle-tea-party, why would she do a complete and utter 180 in way of thinking? She's not benefitting from either, hell if anything she should have been way more strict in the MoF ending than the fairies manga since the former involves all kinds of youkai and rival religions whereas the latter it's just 3 fairies that live right behind her shrine anyhow.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:08:37 2014 No.12602336 File: 1.09 MB, 1418x1000, aya vs reimu2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12602311 I thought that was Aya.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:09:55 2014 No.12602339

>>12602319
The EX prologue.
>Kaguya "Oh yes, that's right. Make sure you go on this trial of guts as a 2-person team like you did when you came to me. That way if anything happens to one of you, we'll find out quickly."
Kaguya is speaking to to Reimu, Marisa, Youmu and Sakuya

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:14:52 2014 No.12602349

>>12602339
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Imperishable_Night/Story/Extra_Story
Reading it makes it seem like she's not really talking to everyone for that, since the term ''you'' isn't specific. This is just the traditional ambiguosity of ZUN. We're only sure that all 4 of them did go on the extra stage, not actually the first 6 stages, much like how SA's backstory shows both Reimu&Yukari and Marisa&Patchouli going underground.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:16:18 2014 No.12602351 >>12602349 Well, if one of them didn't go, they would have no idea what it means by the whole 2-person team, nor they would know Kaguya.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:17:44 2014 No.12602356

>>12602351
They would, actually, by word of mouth or just meeting her afterwards for whatever reason. Remember UFO? ZUN explicitly said Marisa B is the only canon route, yet in the Extra Prologue, both Reimu and Sanae know Byakuren and are talking about the events that happened.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:18:05 2014 No.12602358 >>12602328 That is a late chapter in the 3 fairies that happen post-MoF, Reimu just gets fed up with youkai again.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:20:23 2014 No.12602369 File: 452 KB, 917x1280, 27.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12602358 That can't be the case either since later on in that very chapter she goes and has a makeup drink with them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:20:36 2014 No.12602371 >>12602356 Sound too much of a stretch, but eh, it's ZUN's loose canon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:21:39 2014 No.12602375 >>12602369 Dude, she hanging out with the 3 faries and some particular youkai doesn't mean she wants to get along with youkai in general.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:22:44 2014 No.12602379 >>12602375 Also, youkai extermination is a huge joke considering youkai doesn't get exterminated when they get exterminated, they resurface some days later.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:23:50 2014 No.12602382

>>12602375
>doesn't mean she wants to get along with youkai in general.
Why not? Why would she EVER get along with youkai in the first place then and not reject them 100% of the time? That doesn't make sense. She explicitly says ''I want to get along with youkai'' in MoF, how can you assume your way out of that?

Even less so, rejecting them and then getting along with them IN THE SAME CHAPTER. She's bipolar.

Or ZUN doesn't even remember what he had for breakfast.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:23:51 2014 No.12602383 >>12602375 The fact that she hangs out with so many youkai that she's in danger of becoming one herself, however, does mean that she gets along with youkai in general.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:23:53 2014 No.12602384 >>12602375 >>12601486 Stop. Just stop.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:25:01 2014 No.12602386 >>12602379 >they resurface some days later. they don't suffer anything that would require ''resurfacing'', they outright have a tea party with Reimu right away after the battle.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:25:06 2014 No.12602387 >>12602382 Because Reimu isn't an extremist, and she gets along with some youkai, and doesn't get along with some other youkai.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:26:37 2014 No.12602398 >>12602383 But Gensokyo has enough youkai that you can hang around and still has plenty left to ignore/not hang around.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:27:39 2014 No.12602404 >>12602384 Stop what? The reality is that youkai causes troubles all the times, Reimu can get fed up any times with them.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:27:43 2014 No.12602405

>>12602387
>and she gets along with some youkai, and doesn't get along with some other youkai.
Also wrong, again, in the very same chapter she doesn't get along with the fairies, then later on she does.

Same with MoF, in the ending she says she wants to get along with youkai, and said party includes Nitori, then in WaHH she complains when she's unable to carry out a kappa holocaust. The kappa aren't exactly nice either to anyone.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:29:27 2014 No.12602416

>>12602398
But thing is it's those same youkai that she both gets along with and rejects other times, there's no youkai she always gets along with nor are there youkais she's always rejecting because she still accepts them in the parties at the shrine, that includes her rivals like Byakuren and Miko in Kokoro's ending in HM.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:30:00 2014 No.12602421 File: 224 KB, 800x800, 8665c75867090742f7763b12289a684f.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who loves Reimu more? The gods or the youkai?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:30:09 2014 No.12602423 >>12602382 Reimu isn't bipolar just doesn't have the heart to hate or hold a grudge. Komachi even said so. She exterminates youkai because it's her job and she befriends them later because that's just who she is.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:31:14 2014 No.12602426 >>12602423 *she just

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:32:13 2014 No.12602431 >>12602405 I still need to read that chapter again for argumentation. And the kappa are one of the nicer youkai to Reimu, since they only mess up humans, but they don't mess with Reimu, so it makes sense that she leaves them alone.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:33:52 2014 No.12602437 >>12602416 Because Reimu ain't a stone, depends on the actions of others, she changes her reactions towards them. Though I wouldn't doubt it if Reimu rejects the underground youkai.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:34:15 2014 No.12602439

>>12602404
>The reality is that youkai causes troubles all the times
And she gets pissed at them even when they don't, and other times she's calmfully eating with them.
>>12602423
This isn't about hating or holding grudges, this is about getting along and suddenly not getting along (and on and on) with the same characters without them even doing anything, one time she may have a party with them, but the next time she sees them she will tell them to go to hell and try her damnest to kick them out of her sight.
>>12602431
>And the kappa are one of the nicer youkai to Reimu
you haven't played HM.
> so it makes sense that she leaves them alone.
But I just told you she wanted to have a kappa holocaust in WaHH. Even in FS when she tells Kosuzu about the kappa hiding in the shelter, she questions herself as to why the hell is she protecting youkai.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:36:34 2014 No.12602442 >>12602421 One of the reason Reimu's shrine is deserted is that her own god hates her guts, so yeah.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:37:12 2014 No.12602446

>>12602437
>depends on the actions of others
Wrong, nothing the others do ever change her perspective, she just rejects them just for being youkai at random, sometimes she has parties with them and other times she kicks them in the face for no reason other than their race.
>Though I wouldn't doubt it if Reimu rejects the underground youkai.
Funny, she had a tea party with Okuu and Rin and the latter apparently comes to the shrine every once in a while in cat form if Reimu A ending is to be trusted. Yukari is the one that hates the shit out of the underground, so much so that even when Reimu accepted Satori's tea offering, Yukari still told her to fight her, same with Yamame who Reimu noted was innocent too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:37:31 2014 No.12602448 >>12602439 What's the fucking point you're even trying to make? Post after post it's been told, she does her job as a shrine maiden yet wants to get along with youkais to an extent.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:38:20 2014 No.12602452 >>12602442 We know next to nothing about the God of the Hakurei Shrine.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:39:01 2014 No.12602455

>>12602448
>What's the fucking point you're even trying to make?
That she's bipolar and/or ZUN forgets easily what he writes. Because there's zero explanation for her getting along with youkai and then hating them for NO REASON the next time she meets them.
>she does her job as a shrine maiden
That would imply NEVER getting along with youkai whatsoever. Much less explicitly say that she wants to.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:39:34 2014 No.12602456 >>12602442 She posses the ability to call upon many shinto gods. I doubt they'd lend her help if they hate her.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:40:21 2014 No.12602458

>>12602439
>And she gets pissed at them even when they don't, and other times she's calmfully eating with them.
She gets pissed at them because looking at them reminds me her of her job of youkai extermination and the incidents, but she still opens up to them when they begin talking/socializing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:40:22 2014 No.12602459 >>12602442 No, the god is just angry that there has never ever been a donation (during UFO). The god can't do shit, and since WaHH the shrine is anything but deserted, there's non-youkai visitors like every 1-2 chapters.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:40:36 2014 No.12602462 >>12602455 Holy shit you blind fuck. I'm done fucking trying to disapprove your bipolar bullshit.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:41:55 2014 No.12602467

>>12602452
One of the things we do know about it is that the shrine doesn't get visitors because her god holds a grudge.

You might as well say we don't know whether the dragons helped build the barrier (they did) or we don't know whether Iku is employed by the Dragon Palace (she is) because we know next to nothing about dragons.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:42:25 2014 No.12602471

>>12602439
>you haven't played HM.
Alright what did Nitori do to Reimu in HM?
>But I just told you she wanted to have a kappa holocaust in WaHH. Even in FS when she tells Kosuzu about the kappa hiding in the shelter, she questions herself as to why the hell is she protecting youkai.
Because that's the conflict see?
As a shrine maiden, her job is to exterminate ALL youkai, but through her interaction, she grows to like some of them, but she doesn't like to admit this, because the rumor of her being a youkai sympathizing miko is bad enough already

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:44:09 2014 No.12602480 >>12602455 She get along with them because that's who she is and she "exterminates" them because it's her job. Has Reimu hating Youkai ever even been explicitly stated?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:44:34 2014 No.12602482 >>12602446 Reimu has tea party with everyone. Doesn't mean she likes them all. I just remember that Reimu has never gotten fond of the lunarian exiles and the rabbits for example. Their dialogs in CiLR weren't the best of terms.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:44:50 2014 No.12602484

>>12602458
>She gets pissed at them because looking at them reminds me her of her job of youkai extermination and the incidents
And this doesn't happen when she has tea parties with them because...?
>but she still opens up to them when they begin talking/socializing.
That makes no sense, and she's the one that gives them the tea service in the first place.
>>12602462
You've yet to make a single counter-argument, just assumptions that don't make any sense. Nobody would suddenly like and hate their enemies for no reason, if Reimu didn't hate youkai then she wouldn't be doing her job, and if she didn't like youkai then she would never do tea parties with them, it's a mess.
>>12602471
>Alright what did Nitori do to Reimu in HM?
Called her a weakling and forcefully set up a shop in her shrine.
>she grows to like some of them
And that goes away the next time she meets them for no reason.
>but she doesn't like to admit this
She explicitly said she wants to get along with youkai in MoF, you can't get more ''admitting'' than that.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:46:25 2014 No.12602494

>>12602484
>And this doesn't happen when she has tea parties with them because...?
Most of the tea parties are held AFTER the youkai are given a beating and admit their loss.
>That makes no sense, and she's the one that gives them the tea service in the first place.
The tea parties here are more or less the "We're sorry" parties from the incident makers.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:46:43 2014 No.12602495

>>12602482
>Doesn't mean she likes them all.
Why would she have tea parties with people she doesn't like? Especially the ones she just brutally beat up?
>Their dialogs in CiLR weren't the best of terms.
There wouldn't have even been a food offering if that were the case, Reimu was just angry that she had been forced to stay on the moon for something that was Remilia's fault, the moment the sisters showed her the banquet she changed her expression.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:46:44 2014 No.12602496

>>12602484
>You've yet to make a single counter-argument, just assumptions that don't make any sense
Jesus fucking christ do you even read what's being posted or just replies to your post? Go find the komachi one in here where she states that she does her job yet at the same time befriends her enemies, go fucking read it and ingrain it to your skull. It's not fucking bipolar. Do you even know what bipolar means you little dumb shit? How about you fucking read dictionary before even posting things you probably have half-assed idea about. Fucking dolt.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:47:52 2014 No.12602501
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>>12602480
>Has Reimu hating Youkai ever even been explicitly stated?
Yeah like, every single fucking chapter.

Even in the parties she gets pissed at them and shoos them away when no humans show up.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:49:00 2014 No.12602505

>>12602495
>Why would she have tea parties with people she doesn't like? Especially the ones she just brutally beat up?
Because it means she gets to hear these youkai apologize for their misdeeds.
>There wouldn't have even been a food offering if that were the case, Reimu was just angry that she had been forced to stay on the moon for something that was Remilia's fault, the moment the sisters showed her the banquet she changed her expression.
I'm not talking about the Watatsuki sisters, I'm talking about Eirin, Kaguya and Udonge.

Chapter 1 has Eirin still distrusting Reimu, and Reimu doesn't sound quite nice to Eirin either.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:49:34 2014 No.12602510 >>12602501 I think that picture reasons why she wants to shoo the fairies away. She even says she wants human visitors. How in hell does this translate to hate?

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:52:45 2014 No.12602517

>>12602494
>Most of the tea parties are held AFTER the youkai are given a beating and admit their loss.
So? If the villain that's causing the incident gave up after you beat em up, would you suddenly forgive them and invite them over to your place for some snacks? No, you'd send them over to the fucking jail which apparently doesn't exist in Gensokyo.
>The tea parties here are more or less the "We're sorry" parties from the incident makers.
That doesn't even happen, all the tea parties make Reimu and villain sound like they're the most casual of buds having a common good time.

Look at Reimu A ending in UFO, there's no tea party, Reimu goes up to Byakuren's ship and starts giving her interior decoration advise to make her ship more attractive and increase followers.
> Go find the komachi one in here where she states that she does her job yet at the same time befriends her enemies
Well that's a lie, seeing as how the next time she sees them, she hates their guts and wants to exterminate them for zero reason, Reimu herself says that the whole befriending youkai is bullshit:
>>12602313

Even when she supposedly has a drink with the fairies later on, she doesn't befriend them, she tells Marisa that all she did was make them drunk in order to easily trick them to do her duties for her.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:52:58 2014 No.12602518 File: 429 KB, 1000x848, 1393355725872.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Its getting pretty hot in here.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:52:59 2014 No.12602519

>>12602484
>Called her a weakling and forcefully set up a shop in her shrine.
Nitori called Marisa a moron and got away with it. Reimu customarily allows shops in festival time for her shrine anyway.
>And that goes away the next time she meets them for no reason.
The reason is that they are youkai, and her job is to exterminating the fuck out of them, she doesn't want them to be there, all the times.
>She explicitly said she wants to get along with youkai in MoF, you can't get more ''admitting'' than that.
Her wanting to get along with youkai doesn't mean her job isn't youkai extermination, that's her conflict between Reimu's wish vs her job.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:54:03 2014 No.12602521 >>12602505 >Because it means she gets to hear these youkai apologize for their misdeeds. They don't. And why would that matter? When you beat up the one responsible for a crime, do you have tea parties with them? No.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:55:37 2014 No.12602523

>>12602517
>So? If the villain that's causing the incident gave up after you beat em up, would you suddenly forgive them and invite them over to your place for some snacks? No, you'd send them over to the fucking jail which apparently doesn't exist in Gensokyo
Because for Reimu, she just solves the incidents and "exterminate the youkai", that's enough cause for celebration.
>That doesn't even happen, all the tea parties make Reimu and villain sound like they're the most casual of buds having a common good time.
Even the MoF strip above still has the Moriya saying obviously things like "we're not bad gods, really, really!" to her, sure sound like they are trying to get to her good side.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:55:44 2014 No.12602524 >>12602521 Y-you mean you don't?

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 22:59:34 2014 No.12602531

>>12602521
Which comes to the point that is Reimu is forgiving.

And come on, every good motherfucking endings in 2hu have the villains come down to socializing with Reimu and trying to make a good expression on her by either explaining their motive or lying.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:00:24 2014 No.12602533

>>12602510
>She even says she wants human visitors.
Yes duh, she doesn't want youkai, she wants human visitors. Youkai being there means NO HUMANS.
>>12602519
>Nitori called Marisa a moron and got away with it.
Anybody could call Marisa a moron for her stupidity, even the most innocent of characters in series still call others idiots when it's appropiate.
>Reimu customarily allows shops in festival time for her shrine anyway.
Not that time, because youkai youkai youkai.
> and her job is to exterminating the fuck out of them
And she's not doing her job if she's having friendly meetings with them at random.

Even when she's not in the shrine and meets them, she still either hates them OR gets along with them (like UFO Reimu A ending), there's no pattern or set reason, it's completely random.
>Her wanting to get along with youkai doesn't mean her job isn't youkai extermination
That means she's not doing her job, which would go against her doing her job other times.
>>12602523
>Because for Reimu, she just solves the incidents and "exterminate the youkai", that's enough cause for celebration.
Yeah, celebration with your friends, not the fucking villain whom you also just brutally and aggressively beat up. They don't even apologize, they just have a chit chat that EVERY TIME sounds like they were friends for a long time and sounds casual as hell.
>"we're not bad gods, really, really!"
No, that was because Reimu just said that she herself believes the gods aren't bad.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:02:51 2014 No.12602539 >>12602531 >Which comes to the point that is Reimu is forgiving. So she's forgiving for their CRIMES but not forgiving for just casually meeting them anywhere in the future?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:04:51 2014 No.12602544 File: 291 KB, 778x608, 1382567823886.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is fucking stupid.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:06:04 2014 No.12602549

>>12602533
>>12602539
Here is the train of thought:
- Reimu doesn't like youkai at the shrine, youkai being there causing no human to visit ergo she shoos away youkai on the spot.
- exceptions to this are when youkai are nice or sincere to Reimu (the 3 fairies), or when she just resolves incidents, because that's cause for celebration, and everyone (the villains) included get to party because it's a party!

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:06:50 2014 No.12602553 >>12602459 Wasn't this nameless deity also angry that Reimu really didn't do nothing to bring faith to it? She needs to take a lesson or two from Sanae.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:10:05 2014 No.12602565 >>12602553 It's pointless anyhow because Reimu doesn't even know the name of the deity, so the prayer aren't really going anywhere.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:11:04 2014 No.12602569

>>12602549
>- exceptions to this are when youkai are nice or sincere to Reimu (the 3 fairies)
Wrong, even when they were being nice she hit Star in the face and told them they were wrong in their assumptions of Reimu befriending anyone, which shoo'd them away, Reimu later tricked them into doing her duties.
> and everyone (the villains) included get to party because it's a party!
Makes no sense. Especially since she sometimes gets along with youkai later on for no reason as well as not get along as well.

If anything parties would be the worst offender for her because those are long and means an extended period of time in which youkai would reside at her shrine, which would create a villager-shooing barrier for that long.
>>12602544
this pic has nothing to do with this discussion, we're not discussing her incident-solving actions.
>>12602553
Sanae already had the advantage that her two gods were, you know, existing, unlike Reimu who's shrine has always been unsupported, if anything she's the first to bring actual followers like it happens every 1-2 chapters in WaHH.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:12:31 2014 No.12602577 File: 320 KB, 1124x1600, 40.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12602565 Christians do not even know what the name of their god is or what it looks like, and that doesn't stop them. She is just a slacker.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:14:26 2014 No.12602580

>>12602569
>Wrong, even when they were being nice she hit Star in the face and told them they were wrong in their assumptions of Reimu befriending anyone, which shoo'd them away, Reimu later tricked them into doing her duties.
That's just Reimu still in conflict whether to trust these 3 little pranksting bitches or not, later on she makes it up by drinking with them.
>Makes no sense. Especially since she sometimes gets along with youkai later on for no reason as well as not get along as well.
That is a case by case basic, Reimu gets along with some (the Oni, Aya for example), normal with others (most other 2hu named characters), some she holds suspicions (the lunarian exiles).
>If anything parties would be the worst offender for her because those are long and means an extended period of time in which youkai would reside at her shrine, which would create a villager-shooing barrier for that long.
Tell that to Reimu. Reimu doesn't think this far, incident resolution = job well done ergo celebration.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:15:57 2014 No.12602584 >>12602569 That's not completely true. Yukari and Rinnousuke know the identity of the Hakurei Shring God.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:18:18 2014 No.12602592 >>12602584 Oh wait, I misunderstood what you were saying. Please dismiss this post.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:19:16 2014 No.12602595

>>12602577
>Christians do not even know what the name of their god is
Yes they do, it's Yahweh, and that god has also talked and done tons of shit in the Bible. Unlike Reimu's god which has done exactly zero and might as well not exist.
>>12602580
>later on she makes it up by drinking with them.
She doesn't make up anything, she explicitly says she made them drunk in order to manipulate them into doing her duties, that's something you'd expect from a school bully.
>Reimu gets along with some (the Oni, Aya for example)
Well that's just wrong, she hates the shit out of Yuugi and she smacks Suika in the head in WaHH. She also shoos away Aya everytime they meet as shown in BAiJR where Aya says that everytime she tried getting close to Reimu she'd attack her and thus she'd need to run away.
>normal with others
It's completely random, sometimes she gets along and sometimes she doesn't, all out of the blue, even when there's no incident that was just solved for the former case, it just happens.
>Reimu doesn't think this far,
But she does: >>12602501

IaMP shows that it's Marisa who sets up the parties at the Hakurei shrine, not Reimu.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:21:21 2014 No.12602600 >>12602577 reimu has one of these in her shrine for Kanako of all people, it even brought in followers.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:23:59 2014 No.12602607 >>12602595 Okay, Reimu's God does exist >>12602584

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:25:04 2014 No.12602610 >>12602607 Well duh, I'm saying he/she might as well not exist from how it has done nothing ever. I bet it's her mum.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:25:45 2014 No.12602612 File: 402 KB, 822x835, 46099031.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12602595 Yahweh is a title, "(it) who is/will become". Not any different from calling Kanako "The Wind Goddess".

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:26:59 2014 No.12602616

>>12602595
>She doesn't make up anything, she explicitly says she made them drunk in order to manipulate them into doing her duties, that's something you'd expect from a school bully.
She might have another motive, but her drinking with the fairies are her socializing with them, she doesn't need to drink with them to trick them into doing her duties at all.
>Well that's just wrong, she hates the shit out of Yuugi and she smacks Suika in the head in WaHH. She also shoos away Aya everytime they meet as shown in BAiJR where Aya says that everytime she tried getting close to Reimu she'd attack her and thus she'd need to run away.
Suika has been drinking with Reimu since forever, smacking Suika in the head means they are just close friends. And Aya also hangs out to scope the shrine, Reimu doesn't like it, but she has been holding back with Aya.
>It's completely random, sometimes she gets along and sometimes she doesn't, all out of the blue, even when there's no incident that was just solved for the former case, it just happens.
I have explained that part, Reimu hates it when youkai come to the shrine because it means humans hating her shrine, and her job demands youkai extermination, yet some youkai are nice to her so she opens up to them.
>But she does
No, she doesn't. She knows enough that youkai = no human visitor, but something big like an incident resolution mean everyone get to party.
>IaMP shows that it's Marisa who sets up the parties at the Hakurei shrine, not Reimu.
If Reimu doesn't help or approve of it, I don't think the parties would be successful.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:28:07 2014 No.12602621 >>12602610 Nigga what? Her divine power comes from the Hakurei god. Fantasy Heaven, more like Heaven-granted Fantasy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:28:30 2014 No.12602623 >>12602612 Perhaps a being much higher than humans and solely exist alone on top doesn't need a name. Now for shinto gods who are numerous in numbers, names are necessary to avoid confusion.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:31:43 2014 No.12602631

>>12602612
Well it's what they call him in the Bible, besides God. Gods don't need names anyhow, just titles and people having faith in them. Donating to the shrine is one way to do that, though even after the shitton of money Reimu made in WaHH nothing has happened regarding her god.
>>12602616
>but her drinking with the fairies are her socializing with them
Yeah fooling them into false trust, she tells Marisa that she just tricked them, you don't need anything else.
>Suika has been drinking with Reimu since forever
Geheh no, she left in SWR and has come down like, 3 times.
>smacking Suika in the head means they are just close friends
Well then she must be friends with all the people she claims to hate then.
> but she has been holding back with Aya.
BAiJR says otherwise, Aya also tricked Reimu into accepting her with the ''ghost newspaper'' trick in the fairies manga.
>Reimu hates it when youkai come to the shrine because it means humans hating her shrine
And yet she still lets them sometimes, there's no set reason, she sometimes feels like it and sometimes she doesn't. There's no particular youkai that she finds nice like you say because in each party SHE LETS IN EVERYBODY.
>but something big like an incident resolution mean everyone get to party.
Thing is >>12602501 is no incident resolution, and again, why would an incident resolution mean being friendly with the villain who caused you pain and is shooing away humans?
>If Reimu doesn't help or approve of it
>>12602501

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:33:54 2014 No.12602637 File: 473 KB, 810x960, Reimu Sweater.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12602035 It,s ok, anon. She can become a hermit.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:33:55 2014 No.12602636

>>12602621
>Her divine power comes from the Hakurei god.
Where did you get that from? Her power comes from her bloodline according to Mima and said power increases over time naturally, it's one of the reasons ZUN said Marisa was jealous of her even.

If the god can't even have a corporeal form or even fucking talk or do ANYTHING from having 0 faith (its shrine maiden doesn't even know its name), what makes you think it can grant anybody powers?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:34:54 2014 No.12602640 >>12602094 >must be sad to watch reimu grow old and die... Reimu will become a hermit long before growing old and dead.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:35:34 2014 No.12602642 File: 444 KB, 601x850, 1337672283126.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12602637 Hermits get hunted by pricks so they can drag them back in hell. RIP Reimu.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:36:57 2014 No.12602648 File: 506 KB, 600x1500, 1390346533772.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12602336 Reimu needs to stop bullying crow tengus.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:37:45 2014 No.12602652 File: 295 KB, 905x1280, 26.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12602642 no, only evil, lying, corrupt hermits like Seiga do, she says her being mischevious and breaking the rules is the reason she's being hunted down.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:39:32 2014 No.12602662 >>12602642 >Hermits get hunted by pricks so they can drag them back in hell. Except that it is around every centuries and hermits can beat them, too. You become a celestial after a while.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:40:45 2014 No.12602667

>>12602631
>Yeah fooling them into false trust, she tells Marisa that she just tricked them, you don't need anything else.
Or she can just force them to do it, there's no need to waste boozes on these buzzards.
>Geheh no, she left in SWR and has come down like, 3 times.
Good thing there's a decent amount of time between IaMP and SWR.
>BAiJR says otherwise, Aya also tricked Reimu into accepting her with the ''ghost newspaper'' trick in the fairies manga.
Reimu has been holding back period, she could have exterminated them on sight instead of shooing, particularly on pesky youkai such as Aya.
>And yet she still lets them sometimes, there's no set reason, she sometimes feels like it and sometimes she doesn't.
Judge all the exceptions by a case by case basic then, but most of the times, youkai on the shrine is viewed as negatively.
>Thing is >>12602501 is no incident resolution, and again,
Yes, that's not an incident resolution, that's why she's shooing them.
>why would an incident resolution mean being friendly with the villain who caused you pain and is shooing away humans?
Because Gensokyo is once again safe, and Reimu just successfully did her job, the villains are punished, that sounds more than enough cause for celebration. And, nobody but the youkai know about these incident resolution in the first place, so it makes sense that youkai flock to it to get on Reimu's good side while the humans have no idea.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:43:17 2014 No.12602685 >>12602636 Just simply reading 夢想天生/"Fantasy Heaven". It means power being bestowed by Heaven, it could mean that Reimu is a genius, but more likely it means that the power comes from the god/Heaven.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:43:47 2014 No.12602687 File: 2.15 MB, 1540x1085, Reimu is tired of all these yokai.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Keep in mind that Reimu have to maintain a semblance of Anti Youkai in front of outsiders.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:46:43 2014 No.12602699

>>12602667
>Or she can just force them to do it
You forgot they can hide themselves completely from Reimu with their powers, not to mention they would hate her and still play tricks on her. It's much simpler to just get them drunk and trick her into believing that she likes them.
>Good thing there's a decent amount of time between IaMP and SWR.
Of which we never saw Suika drink with Reimu, if anything the drinking (which has happened twice iirc) only started after she left, during two visits.
>she could have exterminated them on sight instead of shooing
It's the same thing, she attacks them and they run away, since they have no reason to fight Reimu, unlike each time Reimu meets them during an incident.
>Judge all the exceptions by a case by case basic then
Thing is there's no reason ever shown for her being friendly towards them, since she should be aggressive towards them at all times, and no there's no special occassion or specific youkai to which this applies, it's completely random. Also >>12602501 is the only time where she has complained in a party, since that time she was specifically trying to just get humans, unlike all the other parties.
>that's why she's shooing them.
But none of the parties where more than just the characters she just beat up come are related to incident resolutions. They're just parties.
>nobody but the youkai know about these incident resolution in the first place
Wrong, Akyuu writes down the events of each incident in her books.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:47:02 2014 No.12602702

>>12602631
>Well then she must be friends with all the people she claims to hate then.
Yes, obviously enough.

Reimu doesn't claim she hates the lunarian exiles, but she doesn't treat as well as some of the youkai she claim to hate.

Contrary to belief, claiming to hate might not means she actually hates said individuals.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:51:07 2014 No.12602716

>>12602685
Or it's just, you know, a fancy title, like every other fucking spellcard. It's like thinking all the spellcards with references to real historical people that the character would have no way of even knowing about are actually related to said historical people.
>>12602702
>Yes, obviously enough.
Attacking them for no reason is not being friends with them, she's friends with Marisa, you don't see her attacking her for no reason. There's a difference between wanting-to-beat-you-up-but-not-to-the-point-of-murder and being friends.

It's true that she actually doesn't like fighting but that doesn't relate to being friends with the people she relentlessly beats up for no reason other than her job title. It's like saying policemen are friends with the criminals they've caught and locked in just because they didn't shoot them dead.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:54:34 2014 No.12602729

>>12602699
>You forgot they can hide themselves completely from Reimu with their powers, not to mention they would hate her and still play tricks on her. It's much simpler to just get them drunk and trick her into believing that she likes them.
Reimu can notice it, even in the 3 fairies manga, Reimu's shown that she can notice fairies trick and have punished them for it, she can force them into labour.
>Of which we never saw Suika drink with Reimu, if anything the drinking (which has happened twice iirc) only started after she left, during two visits.
Reimu comfortable with Suika bringing booze in the 3 fairies manga means that they got drunk together a long time.
>Thing is there's no reason ever shown for her being friendly towards them, since she should be aggressive towards them at all times, and no there's no special occassion or specific youkai to which this applies, it's completely random.
Post some random ones then we can discuss further.
>But none of the parties where more than just the characters she just beat up come are related to incident resolutions. They're just parties.
>since that time she was specifically trying to just get humans, unlike all the other parties.
Uh, you said it yourself, the incident resolution parties are quite different than normal festivals, they are meant to celebrate Reimu herself for resolving the incidents, unlike the normal religious or traditional parties where Reimu wants donations.
>Wrong, Akyuu writes down the events of each incident in her books.
Akyuu doesn't even confirm the incident happened or not, let alone writing down the events, check her Imperishable Night entry or the Snow incident.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 23:56:47 2014 No.12602737

>>12602716
Reimu has a legit reason for attacking them, they are freaking pesky youkai, just the fact they are existing means she got a job to do.

Still, there are exceptions because some youkai are nice to her.
>It's like saying policemen are friends with the criminals they've caught and locked in just because they didn't shoot them dead.
If the policemen are drinking with the criminals and happily chat with them about life problems, then yeah I would say they are friends.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 00:00:11 2014 No.12602750

>>12602729
>Reimu can notice it, even in the 3 fairies manga
When? Each time the fairies went unnoticed and succeeded in their pranks, albeit they got into a pickle themselves on their own at times too.
>Reimu comfortable with Suika bringing booze in the 3 fairies manga means that they got drunk together a long time
Yeah why say no to someone else giving you free booze?
>Post some random ones then we can discuss further.
All the parties, like the one in IaMP which was organized BEFORE the incident was solved.
> the incident resolution parties are quite different than normal festivals
Thing is, as I said, Reimu has never complained in non-incident-related parties outside of that one example I keep quoting. Like the one in BAiJR where Aya got her interview with her from, what she does complain about in it is that youkai are ungrateful pieces of shit that never help her clean all the mess they made at her place despite giving them her food.
>Akyuu doesn't even confirm the incident happened or not
What matters is that she writes them down and writes the incident solver too.

Also it's not just Akyuu, but Aya too, and she does a way better job since she's actually there in the scene covering the events, while trying to avoid being seen by Reimu.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 00:08:20 2014 No.12602771

>>12602737
>Reimu has a legit reason for attacking them
Not according to the Yama, who's the one who's always right, she says Reimu's relentless attacks are sins and that her soul is going to the worst circle of hell when she dies.
>because some youkai are nice to her.
Thing is she attacks them even when they do nothing, and even when they're being nice (like when the fairies were drinking with her in OSP chapter 18), she still hits them and mocks them, making them leave in sadness.

As I said, it's completely random, and the most likely explanation is that ZUN drinks so much beer he will never remember what he had for breakfast each morning, we probably know more tiny details about his own series since he keeps writing weird shit like in SoPM where he wrote that Koishi is this legit autistic, emotionless sack of flesh that would never be noticed by anyone, some time later HM comes out and she's cheery as hell, calls others ''dummies'' at times and fights everyone as well as makes new friends. And the only person who is unable to notice her is Ichirin for some reason, and Koishi gets angry at her for that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 00:11:21 2014 No.12602784 >>12602771 That was the Mask of Hope at work, she goes right back to being an autistic robot after that wears off. It was like the entire plot of HM.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 00:11:54 2014 No.12602788

>>12602750
>When? Each time the fairies went unnoticed and succeeded in their pranks, albeit they got into a pickle themselves on their own at times too.
Exactly, their childish nature that give them away, so even with their power, Reimu ends up noticing and punishing all 3 of them.
>Yeah why say no to someone else giving you free booze?
Said free booze comes from youkai who visits her, something she dislikes, so she can just say no.
>All the parties, like the one in IaMP which was organized BEFORE the incident was solved.
The ones in IaMP were manipulated by Suika, she intensified the party spirit even further and even then, and that itself is an incident, which means it's a bad thing for Reimu/Reimu not acting like herself.
>Thing is, as I said, Reimu has never complained in non-incident-related parties outside of that one example I keep quoting.
Well, she doesn't except she did. The example does show that Reimu doesn't like youkai visiting her in festival times when she's in need of donation.
>What matters is that she writes them down and writes the incident solver too.
>Also it's not just Akyuu, but Aya too, and she does a way better job since she's actually there in the scene covering the events, while trying to avoid being seen by Reimu.
With no proof, no detailed description, not even one confirmation, and the fact her shrine is swarmed with youkai visiting, the humans have nothing to trust her.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 00:13:53 2014 No.12602796

What I don't get is why humans still are afraid of youkai being in the shrine when there's youkai in the village all the time like motherfucking Yuuka Kazami, the reason being her doing her shopping and nobody ever complains about her or any other youkai that visits the village like Yukari or Byakuren, hell Akyuu sucks Yukari's dick in the PMiSS manga by openly telling Yukari that she can change whatever she wants in her book and she agrees.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 00:17:31 2014 No.12602819

>>12602771
>Not according to the Yama, who's the one who's always right, she says Reimu's relentless attacks are sins and that her soul is going to the worst circle of hell when she dies.
According to the Yama:
>Exterminating Youkai.
>This is the good deed you can do right now.

Not to mention:
>Without much of a reason, you've exterminated many youkai.
>It wasn't once or twice that you've defeated ones that weren't youkai.
>And despite being a Shrine Maiden,
you do absolutely no exchange with God.
There are times when you even bare your fangs towards God.
So attacking for no reason youkai is just one part of it.
>Thing is she attacks them even when they do nothing, and even when they're being nice (like when the fairies were drinking with her in OSP chapter 18), she still hits them and mocks them, making them leave in sadness.
That's just her conflict mode going again "Hey, get close but don't get too close, okay."

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 00:19:03 2014 No.12602828 >>12602716 >Or it's just, you know, a fancy title, like every other fucking spellcard. It's her Last Word. Besides, it's "divine" power, so it inherently comes from divine source anyway.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 00:20:53 2014 No.12602836

>>12602788
>their childish nature that give them away
As in, they get into a pickle of their own, unrelated to Reimu, like say, finding some monster somewhere (or thinking they have and running away in fear). Reimu never noticed them when they were doing their trick.
>Said free booze comes from youkai who visits her, something she dislikes
Free booze is better than anything for her, she's the biggest drunkard in the series outside of the oni, not only does Aya use alcohol to make her talk in BAiJR, but WaHH has a chapter of her forcing Sanae into drinking with her. She gets so drunk she can't recognize human-impersonating youkai from the real deal and speaks in utter drunk-talk in CiLR.
>The ones in IaMP were manipulated by Suika
Not this one, which was just Marisa making an usual party at the shrine, not grouping up the villagers at the human villager like Suika was doing. Notice they still had a party at the end despite it not being really an incident, same in PoFV.
>when she's in need of donation.
Correction, when she's making an event to get followers, because in that very same party I keep quoting she got donations from youkai. Also she's ALWAYS in need of donations, it wouldn't make sense for her to ever make youkai parties.
>With no proof
They trust Aya and Akyuu, otherwise they wouldn't keep buying the former's newspaper and Bunbunmaru would go bankrupt. They also wouldn't, you know, treat Akyuu as a villager elder of sorts with the utmost respect.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 00:23:17 2014 No.12602843

>>12602784
>That was the Mask of Hope at work
Kokoro finds other masks of hope in other story routes like Nitori's. Where does it say Koishi was affected by the mask of hope while or afterwards? All it's shown is that she fought Kokoro again, nothing else.
>>12602819
>>This is the good deed you can do right now.
Yeah, obviously the ones who deserve it, since she criticizes reimu for attacking innocent youkai, use some basic logic.
>Without much of a reason, you've exterminated many youkai.
Why else would she mention this at all?

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 00:24:51 2014 No.12602852

>>12602828
>It's her Last Word.
Yes and?
>Besides, it's "divine" power,
Says who? And who says that it has to come from the hakurei shrine god and not the other 7,999,999 gods?

Point is Mima said Reimu's power comes from her bloodline and it gets stronger as time passes, hence why she couldn't fly before but now she can and gets OP powers like Fantasy Heaven.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 00:26:02 2014 No.12602859 >>12602843 >Where does it say Koishi was affected by the mask of hope while or afterwards? Koishi route and ending.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 00:26:13 2014 No.12602860 >Caring this much about touhou's canon ZUN himself said that none of it is to be taken seriously.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 00:27:58 2014 No.12602867 >>12602859 That's the one I told you where nothing other than her fighting Kokoro again in the ending happens and that ''the fight between these two great youkai would be remembered by the villagers''.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 00:31:20 2014 No.12602875

>>12602860
what does ZUN have to do with what others care for, does he get to say what we care about? By that logic Momiji wouldn't have the fucking most favourited non-tutorial/group touhou drawing in Pixiv since ZUN couldn't give possibly give a rat's ass about her.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 00:31:27 2014 No.12602876

>>12602796
You actually make a good point. No one really complains about Byakuren's crew despite some of them being somewhat dangerous (Nue, Ichirin & Unzan, Murasa). They do fear some Youkai in the village though like Yoshika, and people are also starting to avoid Kogasa.
Also, I highly doubt anyone would be dumb enough to call out Yuuka and complain about her. She's way to dangerous.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 00:31:30 2014 No.12602877

>>12602867
>It's already my treasure! // ...wait, huh? // I always forget everything... // ...so why do I remember just this one thing?
>At the same time the original mask of hope was losing its power. If she lost her hope, she would surely return to being someone no one could notice. Like a pebble on the road.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 00:33:52 2014 No.12602883 >>12602875 You seem pretty angry over nothing.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 00:35:42 2014 No.12602886

>>12602876
>and complain about her.
they've complained about every single thing before as shown in the manga and every game's incident, and it's not like Reimu can't beat her or that they have to openly call out Yuuka where she can hear them.

this isn't about fear, this is just petty nonsense and hypocrisy that for some reason has never been called out, ZUN probably forgot.
>>12602883
I am angry over a fucking portrait-less, dialogue-less midboss getting the highest ranked solo picture in pixiv but that's it.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 00:35:52 2014 No.12602888

>>12602836
- I distinctly remember the fairies falling their tricks for whatever reason and Reimu notices them.
- it's either free booze or donation, so if Reimu chooses free booze, then she doesn't get donation, that's her fault.
- If that's the usual Marisa party, then I assume it's the usual drinking party between Marisa and Reimu and some 2 or 3 others, not big scale and not attracting attention. And IaMP was an incident, PoFV was not an incident because it naturally happens after a long time, IaMP was caused by Suika.
- Reimu constantly says she's poor and always needs donation, but she doesn't work for it, and she accepts youkai parties ergo she doesn't want donations all the times. As said, Reimu claims to hate all youkai but she actually doesn't, and that conflict with her job.

And youkai donations are fucking leaves.

You would realize Aya gives out extra for free, for people who never subscribe (such as Kourindou), the tengu have other means to get money, and papers are cheap. And Akyuu's words, while respected, are hard to trust because she doesn't even confirm the incidents happened or not.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 00:42:06 2014 No.12602894

>>12602852
I don't know, but aren't Last Word kinda personal for each character?
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Phantasmagoria_of_Dim.Dream/Translation/Reimu%27s_Scenario#Reimu_Hakurei_defeats_Yumemi_Okazaki
>It's not magic, it's divine power, but...

Because she can just talk and summon gods, she doesn't get their powers, just like Sanae who got her divine powers from Kanako and Suwako, Reimu got her divine powers from the god of her shrine.

If Mima says the divine power comes from her blood, then either the Hakurei god bestows the power to such a bloodline, or the Reimu is also a god descendant.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 00:43:32 2014 No.12602895

>>12602888
>- I distinctly remember the fairies falling their tricks for whatever reason and Reimu notices them.
Well show me then, when they're all doing their powers, they are 100% undetectable. The one time I remember them fucking up wasn't in the fairies manga but in Fairy Wars, in one of the endings, Cirno is with them and does some fuck up which makes Reimu start shooting all over the place.
>- it's either free booze or donation
>donation
*human follower. And this isn't what we're talking about, it's the fact that she can go on with her job at times and other times she doesn't.
>And IaMP was an incident
The parties that were being made which only Reimu saw as an odd thing, but what matters here is that the party at the end isn't related to the incident being solved, but rather it was a party that had already begun preparation prior.
>- Reimu constantly says she's poor and always needs donation,
She never says she's poor, that would imply her not having basic resources. Needing donations is another thing because that's related to faith.
>And youkai donations are fucking leaves.
Where did you get that from? Did you forget the 10 thousand yen Yukari donates in the fairies manga?
>extra for free,
That can't be, otherwise as I said, Bunbunmaru would go bankrupt.

Notice how Reimu rejects them at first in the fairies manga but Aya tricks her into accepting her with the ghost newspaper trick.
>he tengu have other means to get money,
Like?
> are hard to trust
People still do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 00:44:56 2014 No.12602898 >>12602895 Reisen and Marisa seem to see them without too much trouble.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 00:46:31 2014 No.12602902

>>12602894
>I don't know, but aren't Last Word kinda personal for each character?
...Just like all the other spell cards? The exception being Marisa because she makes cheap copies of other people's attacks, but they still aren't the real deal anyhow, just like chinese bootlegs.
>Reimu got her divine powers from the god of her shrine.
Again, that can't be because the god can't do shit, much less have a corporeal form. Sanae getting her powers for her gods doesn't mean Reimu gets hers from her god, because said god can't even do anything.

Divine powers can also just be a way to call shrine maiden's natural power due to her sheer relation with gods. You can't tell what is it exactly from that sentence.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 00:47:34 2014 No.12602903 >>12602898 Okay?

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 00:56:05 2014 No.12602919
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>>12602895
There we go.
>*human follower. And this isn't what we're talking about, it's the fact that she can go on with her job at times and other times she doesn't.
We're talking about how Reimu is inconsistent, sometimes she's fine with youkai, sometimes she doesn't. I explain this is because some youkai are rather nice to her, so she doesn't exterminate them on sight, but most of the times, she doesn't like the fact youkai are on the shrine, making her shine unpopular, or sometimes she does it because she likes to party.
>The parties that were being made which only Reimu saw as an odd thing, but what matters here is that the party at the end isn't related to the incident being solved, but rather it was a party that had already begun preparation prior.
Then that party just got changed into an incident resolution party then, it's naturally because it comes after an incident, and Suika shows up.
>She never says she's poor, that would imply her not having basic resources. Needing donations is another thing because that's related to faith.
>Where did you get that from? Did you forget the 10 thousand yen Yukari donates in the fairies manga?
That tanuki chapter when tanuki leaves fucking leaves in the donation box.
>That can't be, otherwise as I said, Bunbunmaru would go bankrupt.
Just check the CoLA chapter about the newspaper hunting.
>Like?
Making camera, film and other stuff in the mountain?
>People still do.
Not evidential, people still distrust Reimu and doesn't believe in her.

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Anonymous Sat Oct 18 00:58:37 2014 No.12602928

>>12602902
>...Just like all the other spell cards? The exception being Marisa because she makes cheap copies of other people's attacks, but they still aren't the real deal anyhow, just like chinese bootlegs.
With exception like Marisa, it's hard to say spellcards are "personal".
>Again, that can't be because the god can't do shit, much less have a corporeal form.
You do need to prove that the gods can't even do anything here.
>Divine powers can also just be a way to call shrine maiden's natural power due to her sheer relation with gods.
Shrine maiden can communicate with gods (more like hearing gods), but they can't just steal gods power just because.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 00:59:50 2014 No.12602934 >>12602919 Btw, Yukari pushing a modern 10 thousand yen in the box doesn't do jackshit because last time I remember Gensokyo doesn't deal in yen.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 01:01:30 2014 No.12602938 File: 888 KB, 2756x2952, reimu the ultimate lifeform.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Reimu doesn't need to grow up. She's peaked already.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 01:01:59 2014 No.12602941

>>12602919
>There we go.
They weren't using their powers, they were hiding in a tree.
>I explain this is because some youkai are rather nice to her
Which is wrong, again, the Star Sapphire example. And also, liking to party with youkai is against her belief that youkai are bad for the shrine and she complains about them only SOME times, meaning there's no set reason and it's just random.
>Then that party just got changed into an incident resolution party then
Don't cheat your way in now, not to mention this party was with everyone, not just the villain.
>That tanuki chapter when tanuki leaves fucking leaves in the donation box.
Yeah that was just the tanuki, not every other youkai, like Yukari who left probably the largest donation Reimu has ever received.
>Just check the CoLA chapter about the newspaper hunting.
I'm too lazy at this hour of the night to even find the chapter, show me.
>Making camera, film and other stuff in the mountain?
That's the kappa, whom they buy stuff from.
>Not evidential
It is evidential since otherwise they wouldn't, you know, task her with doing so again and again.
> people still distrust Reimu and doesn't believe in her.
They do believe in her and call her on their need when an incident happens like nearly every single chapter in WaHH and FS, like the recent one about the youkai kid at the village school.
>>12602934
The hell did you get that from?

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 01:05:46 2014 No.12602949

>>12602928
>With exception like Marisa, it's hard to say spellcards are "personal".
They are, since hers are just chinese bootleg copies, not to mention even if you were right, what's stopping Last Words from being stolen by her.
>You do need to prove that the gods can't even do anything here.
Uh what? The god doesn't even have a corporeal form much less be able to do anything, a god can only thrive in faith and the only faith that god has is the 2 or so people that know its name. Where's YOUR proof that the hakurei shrine god is the one who gave Reimu her powers?
>but they can't just steal gods power just because.
I didn't say they did, I said their power can also be called divine power because they are in that category, much like how priests in RPGs have Divine Magic or Light Magic or whatever. The next step after shrine maiden status is goddess which Reimu doesn't want to be, like how the next step of Marisa's class is the Magician youkai one that Alice and Patchouli are.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 01:11:18 2014 No.12602967

>>12602941
I'm frankly kinda bored by this discussion. Maybe we can do this some other times.
Here's the CoLA chapter regarding the newspaper competition:
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Curiosities_of_Lotus_Asia/Chapter_17
The tengu just throw in the extra after extra without Kourin paying anything.

And Gensokyo was sealed in 1885, the yen back then and the modern yen has much different.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 01:20:21 2014 No.12602990

>>12602949
>They are, since hers are just chinese bootleg copies, not to mention even if you were right, what's stopping Last Words from being stolen by her.
I don't know, when she does it I guess, otherwise, Last word seems rather personal so far.
>Where's YOUR proof that the hakurei shrine god is the one who gave Reimu her powers?
Only from the last word name.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 01:21:54 2014 No.12602996

>>12602967
>And Gensokyo was sealed in 1885,
And yet there's shit like cameras and flip flops. Not to mentioned the endless barrage of stuff from the outside world that glitches through the barrier and that it's the whole basis of Kourindou.
>the yen back then and the modern yen has much different.
That's not ''last time I remember Gensokyo doesn't deal in yen''. And they do deal in yen, the chapter with the kitsune that shows Reimu all the hidden money in the shrine was all yen currency.

Even Marisa was able to instantly see how much worth was the amount Yukari put in the donation box.

Also seeing that chapter it seems to be more of a current competition, Aya has talked about subscriptions before and she has shown to trick people into respecting her newspaper and suck it up every day, like Reimu in the fairies manga.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 01:23:49 2014 No.12603000 File: 53 KB, 305x351, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12602938 Yup

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 01:25:22 2014 No.12603003 File: 2.13 MB, 1447x2046, 6de9502ebf332a350621c37c5cef07e5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] would reimu be a good mom?

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 01:25:35 2014 No.12603005

>>12602996
The human village lives in basically 19th century mindset with some slow trickle down technology from the outside, the cameras and flipflops are made in the youkai mountain.

But yeah, seems like I was wrong regarding yen usage, maybe I remember wrong.

Also, these tengu keep throwing extra after extra, and I really doubt Kourin actually subscribes to so much brands of newspapers.

Anyway, I gotta sleep a bit, this discussion has been a bit on loop.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 01:25:53 2014 No.12603006

>>12602990
>I don't know, when she does it I guess, otherwise, Last word seems rather personal so far.
A spellcard is as personal as any other, it doesn't matter if they're last word or not, that just means it's the user's strongest spellcard, and Marisa stole Yuuka's strongest card (though it was still a cheap copy).
>Only from the last word name.
Fantasy Heaven doesn't relate to the hakurei shrine god in any way that we know. Also even if it did, it wouldn't matter because like I said, spellcard names matter jack shit.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 01:28:19 2014 No.12603011

>>12603005
>the cameras and flipflops are made in the youkai mountain.
Meaning simplifying Gensokyo by saying it's stuck in 1885 is not accurate.
>and I really doubt Kourin actually subscribes to so much brands of newspapers.
As I said, the chapter shows there's some kind of contest between each reporter's newspaper, not to mention the previously mentioned ways Aya has to make people believe her, you don't have to worry about one dude if everyone else eats the shit you write.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 01:29:16 2014 No.12603013 >>12603003 Definitely

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 01:32:53 2014 No.12603023 You know, 5'2" is Japanese women average height.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 01:48:21 2014 No.12603059 >>12603023 Damn that's short

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 01:55:43 2014 No.12603071 [insert alternating green and black text wall here]

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 03:18:14 2014 No.12603313 >>12603011 Meh, that dude here again. It is true that the whole of Gensokyo is over 19th century tech (youkai mountain, eientei all seem to have modern tech), but the human village still lives in the 19th century era, mostly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 03:37:48 2014 No.12603349 File: 231 KB, 707x1000, 1411229637259.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12602938 >Sex >She doesn't really needs it. It is a lie, She really nees it. Frustrated Reimu nees to find a proper guy to make little mikos.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 04:01:21 2014 No.12603380 File: 464 KB, 618x797, 1330620876092.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] lewd miko!

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 07:02:34 2014 No.12603658

>>12602941
Getting back to the main point again, Reimu likes booze and she likes to party, and if Marisa really does do the invitation, then Reimu just happens to hold the party and the youkai come to her, not that she exclusively calls youkai down to party with her.

And when Reimu gets a party going on, I don't think she's gonna call it a quit the moment she notices youkai are drinking with her.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 10:44:17 2014 No.12603932

>>12602990
>Musou Tensei can't be an innate power because of its name
>Marisa says she called it "Tensei" because that means innate, and it's an innate power
Try reading sometime. http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/The_Grimoire_of_Marisa/Reimu_Hakurei%27s_Spell_Cards

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 10:48:39 2014 No.12603938

>>12603932
>This truly is a spell card that can be used only by Reimu's innate power. Thus, I named this tensei (lit. innate from birth) as well.
Tensei itself already means innate, but its literal meaning is "bestowed by Heaven", because asian people believe innate powers are decided by fate and bestowed by the gods/celestials to the genius/talented person upon birth.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 14:01:34 2014 No.12604329 >>12603313 >but the human village still lives in the 19th century era, mostly. And not in the sense of not using the yen, which was the point here, since they do use yen as shown in the kitsune chapter.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 14:09:15 2014 No.12604346 File: 1.49 MB, 1200x848, 1409830297464.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] She needs to absorb the teachings of other religions.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 14:17:57 2014 No.12604361

>>12603658
>I don't think she's gonna call it a quit the moment she notices youkai are drinking with her.
She did though >>12602501

None of the ''parties'' that happen after an incident are actually parties, just a small chit chat with the villain. She does actual parties, with everyone and their mom involved (>>12601538), often.

And it's not like it's the youkai being nice, it's her giving them her food in both the parties and the post-incident tea chit chat. They don't even help her clean up as shown in BAiJR.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 14:23:31 2014 No.12604368
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>>12604346
Absorbing Miko's religion would imply being a selfish, manipulating leader who rather than having followers seeking good fortune or salvation, they become servants dedicated to her despite her lies, much like Scientology. Even Reimu calls Miko out on this in HM and Miko herself pretty much admits this in WaHH, without any remorse, towards Kasen.

absorbing Kanako's would imply the Hakurei shrine being replaced with Moriya.

absorbing Byakuren's would mean you're a dirty youkai loving hippie.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 14:25:04 2014 No.12604371 >>12604368 >much like Scientology Fuck you too, buddy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 14:26:20 2014 No.12604375 >>12604371 you're right, scientology is even worse, at least from what we've seen so far of Miko's taoism.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 14:50:45 2014 No.12604413 File: 429 KB, 849x1200, 1394057982215.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] We'll need a new miko soon either way

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 14:53:38 2014 No.12604423 >>12604413 Why?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 14:54:01 2014 No.12604424 >>12604413 Good thing she came back then and thus the ''need to get a shrine maiden before long'' was for naught.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 15:02:27 2014 No.12604445 File: 793 KB, 1200x900, 1356474467214.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12604423 Reimu will leave Gensokyo one day.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 15:05:38 2014 No.12604455 File: 361 KB, 690x775, reimu23.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12604445 But not soon. No reason to think that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 16:20:38 2014 No.12604624 File: 114 KB, 600x800, 1405510877654.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12604368 The best thing to happen to Reimu would be Kasen dragging her in the woods again.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 16:24:16 2014 No.12604631
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>>12604413
>>12604423
>>12604424
>>12604445
The Hakurei Shrine maiden is important, since it is one of her duty to maintain the Hakurei Barrier. That's why the Shrine needs it's maiden.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 16:27:27 2014 No.12604640 File: 678 KB, 800x1113, reimukasen1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12604624 kasen acts like a mom to her.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 16:30:27 2014 No.12604647
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>>12604640
Kasen also know that with a bit more push, Reimu can become a full pledge hermit. She already show some signs back during one of the fairies manga. Also, Kanako believes that if Reimu was able to gather faith for her shrine, she could become a goddess.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 16:33:51 2014 No.12604660
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>>12604647
she doesn't want to be a goddess even if it means living eternally.

closest thing she'll be is a hermit, of which she kind of is already, just not the actual title or extreme longetivity pass yet.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 16:36:58 2014 No.12604668
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>>12604660
Even hermits can live near eternally if they acn beat the high demons coming for them every centuries or so. Then, they actually become angels / celestials Except nyan nyan, she's a bitch that cannot into heavens.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 16:50:10 2014 No.12604711 File: 41 KB, 360x480, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12604368 Compared to Seiga, Miko isn't even that bad

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 16:51:50 2014 No.12604716 File: 507 KB, 1500x1292, reimutenshi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12604668 Tenshi and Suika say that being a celestial and living in heaven is pretty boring.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 18:00:58 2014 No.12604902 File: 799 KB, 1080x1560, 472cdb5fc858a2386c1a57d59ac96a73.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12604716 didn't tenshis whole incident happen because she was simply bored?

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 18:03:22 2014 No.12604910
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>>12604902
precisely, because heaven is so goddamn boring.

Suika shared the same sentiment despite having only moved in the very same game she started complaining, because she thought it was gonna be exciting and heaven-like, it wasn't.

also the only food there are peaches.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 18:59:54 2014 No.12605050 File: 301 KB, 540x704, reimu-san.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Reimu is happy to stay with me

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 19:06:14 2014 No.12605057 File: 468 KB, 759x400, reimugodzilla.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12605050

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 19:14:48 2014 No.12605073 File: 214 KB, 450x600, 1329637399552.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12605050 reimu is indecent!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 19:20:03 2014 No.12605088 File: 581 KB, 1200x1100, c79a76eebd4d7bdbadeb844167ed3861.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] reimu should have a redesign to always wear hakamas. its the only one true outfit for mikos.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 19:49:51 2014 No.12605168

>>12604361
Regarding that page, if you look closely, that's not a drinking party.

That's a festival where people come to buy stuff, and even then it still continues AFTER she said that.
>She does actual parties, with everyone and their mom involved, often.
As said, the youkai come to her, and it's less her inviting them.
>And it's not like it's the youkai being nice, it's her giving them her food in both the parties and the post-incident tea chit chat.
Considering the large amount of food and booze, I have doubt regarding this, even Suika brough booze over in the 3 fairies manga, to say it's on Reimu's alone is unfeasible.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 19:56:40 2014 No.12605197

>>12605168
>that's not a drinking party.
It's a party, that's what matters.
>and even then it still continues AFTER she said that.
We don't know, she said she was gonna do a youkai cleanup.
>As said, the youkai come to her, and it's less her inviting them.
Nope, each party and each post-incident-tea-party is her inviting them. Youkai doing casual visits on their own is something unrelated.
>I have doubt regarding this
The fairies manga itself shows that Reimu has a huge ass garden from where she gets her food and sake ingredients, she also has a nearby river from which she gets tons of big ass fish. And what Suika brought was the sake worm, something that neither Reimu nor Marisa had seen before so it's not something that she'd have brought for party preparation before.

Again, why do you think Reimu complains about youkai not helping her clean up? Cause youkai are ungrateful fucks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 19:56:43 2014 No.12605198 >>12604329 Hey, I admit that I was wrong at that time!

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 20:06:24 2014 No.12605232

>>12605197
>It's a party, that's what matters.
There are different kinds of parties, that one was a festival, it makes sense that she wants humans there because it means humans get to buy stuff or give her donations.
>We don't know, she said she was gonna do a youkai cleanup.
Look at the end window, the festival is still crowdy.
>Nope, each party and each post-incident-tea-party is her inviting them. Youkai doing casual visits on their own is something unrelated.
No, that is wrong, Reimu and co have never invited Kaguya, Eirin and Udonge in her good IN ending for example, they come and explain shit on their on accord.
>The fairies manga itself shows that Reimu has a huge ass garden from where she gets her food and sake ingredients....
The idea of Reimu herself catching all the fish, making booze (to be fair, she did make booze in ColA) alone is unfeasible to say the least, considering the big parties have more than 10 members, especially if Marisa is the one who does the inviting. And the sake worm comes with water, and you know that thing literally turns water into sake, it's very good for party preparation.

>Again, why do you think Reimu complains about youkai not helping her clean up? Cause youkai are ungrateful fucks.
The majority of youkai are assholes either ways, the point is some of them are nice, you mention it yourself that Yukari donates money to Reimu, Suika giving the sake worm and all, thus it makes sense that Reimu treats some of them nicely. And even then, if they all come in crash in the party, Reimu has no control over that.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 20:12:13 2014 No.12605251

>>12605232
>There are different kinds of parties
Again, that doesn't matter, point is it was a youkai conglomeration that she had no problem with at first, only LATER did she start complaining because there no humans at all.
>Look at the end window, the festival is still crowdy.
The end window is Reimu saying she was gonna do a clean up, clean ups don't happen after 1 panel.
>No, that is wrong, Reimu and co have never invited Kaguya, Eirin and Udonge in her good IN ending for example
Well that's one exception, and how fitting that it's not youkai (the topic here) but aliens.
>The idea of Reimu herself catching all the fish, making booze (to be fair, she did make booze in ColA) alone is unfeasible to say the least
WaHH shows her making festival preparations on her own. There's another thing which is inviting people to make their stalls.
> thus it makes sense that Reimu treats some of them nicely
Man, how many times do I have to repeat myself? The Star Sapphire example proves that ''being nice'' will not make Reimu be nice to you, why do you keep forgetting that?

Also YUKARI? She's the youkai that Reimu gets angry over the most.
>if they all come in crash in the party
We don't know that, point is she has never complained outside of one human-attracting festival.

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Anonymous Sat Oct 18 20:21:30 2014 No.12605283

>>12605251
>Again, that doesn't matter, point is it was a youkai conglomeration that she had no problem with at first, only LATER did she start complaining because there no humans at all.
Because she only realizes LATER because the festival is actually meant to be for humans, not for youkai? And it's weird that only youkai come, but no humans.
>The end window is Reimu saying she was gonna do a clean up, clean ups don't happen after 1 panel.
So it's indeed ambigious meh.
>Well that's one exception, and how fitting that it's not youkai (the topic here) but aliens.
Yuyuko and Youmu also come to apologize on their own. Reimu even tries to make Youmu clean up.
>WaHH shows her making festival preparations on her own. There's another thing which is inviting people to make their stalls.
The festival such as the decorations at the shrine, sure, but don't expect me to believe me Reimu happen to make all the food and booze.
>Man, how many times do I have to repeat myself? The Star Sapphire example proves that ''being nice'' will not make Reimu be nice to you, why do you keep forgetting that?
Because it could just mean Reimu is still distrusting Sapphire, fearing that bitch is leading her to another prank. Ever consider that side?
>We don't know that, point is she has never complained outside of one human-attracting festival.
The rabbits crash in her party in Bohemian Archive, and they complain about the rabbit stew, and later they still get served chicken, so it does show Reimu doesn't care as long as the party gets crowdy.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 20:30:50 2014 No.12605307

>>12605283
>Because she only realizes LATER because the festival is actually meant to be for humans
>realizes
What? At nowhere does it even hint that, she ALWAYS wants humans to visit no matter what, she even wondered if it was okay to donations from youkai at first.
>Yuyuko and Youmu also come to apologize on their own
That was on Reimu B, and they did not come to apologize, they came to insult Reimu's home since they couldn't go back to their place yet. In Reimu A they're already at Reimu's place having the tea party, and what matters here is that she's okay with giving the villain her food.
>but don't expect me to believe me Reimu happen to make all the food and booze.
Why not? Again, fairies manga showed her having a huge ass garden from where she gets food and sake ingredients. You also wouldn't expect her to, you know, ever get money, but guess what, in WaHH she makes a fuckton of money every 2 chapters or so.
>Because it could just mean Reimu is still distrusting Sapphire
Sorry but your assumptions don't mean anything here, especially since this was about BEFRIENDING HER, nothing else. In fact, Reimu is the one that had a drink with them later on. If she suspected them like you said, she wouldn't have done that or tried to get them on her side.
>so it does show Reimu doesn't care as long as the party gets crowdy
Okay?

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 20:38:16 2014 No.12605320

>>12605307
>What? At nowhere does it even hint that, she ALWAYS wants humans to visit no matter what, she even wondered if it was okay to donations from youkai at first.
The realization comes from the fact only youkai come but no humans, and the festival is actually meant for humans.
>That was on Reimu B, and they did not come to apologize, they came to insult Reimu's home since they couldn't go back to their place yet. In Reimu A they're already at Reimu's place having the tea party, and what matters here is that she's okay with giving the villain her food.
In either cases, it doesn't show that Reimu actually invites them, and Reimu has always served food to villains, this has been a thing since EoSD, because as explained, she doesn't give a fuck at an incident resolution party.
>Why not?
Simply because the task of preparing food is a very time-consuming task, and if you prepare it too slowly, the food can get bad, you need people to help prepare a 10-man party.
>In fact, Reimu is the one that had a drink with them later on. If she suspected them like you said, she wouldn't have done that or tried to get them on her side.
Or she just warms up to the end at the chapter, come on.
>Okay?
It means, at a drinking party, youkai can crash in Reimu's party, and she's too fucking drunk to shoo them out, or she doesn't mind in the first place.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 20:43:00 2014 No.12605333

>>12605320
>The realization comes from the fact only youkai come but no humans
There's no realization, she didn't want that to happen in the first place, she always wanted humans to come.
>it doesn't show that Reimu actually invites them
Giving them her food to the villain she just beat up is pretty inviting.
>Simply because the task of preparing food is a very time-consuming task
Thing is the parties are always just boozefests.
>Or she just warms up to the end at the chapter, come on.
Also wrong, as said before, this was just trickery to make them do her duties, this is something she explicitly says to Marisa.

Also, you're saying she magically stops suspecting them just like that? Come on. That's yet another meaningless assumption.
>or she doesn't mind in the first place.
She clearly does >>12602501.

Her not doing it other times is for reasons unknown, your assumptions mean nothing.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 20:50:00 2014 No.12605358

>>12605333
>There's no realization, she didn't want that to happen in the first place, she always wanted humans to come.
She always wanted humans to come, but she doesn't mind youkai coming over, that is until she realizes youkai arriving = no humans, that is the realization, that is why she makes a sudden new year resolution to clear up youkai.
>Giving them her food to the villain she just beat up is pretty inviting.
Allowing them to have food =/= personally inviting them.
>Thing is the parties are always just boozefests.
There are lot of food involved though, this is constant at least.
>Also wrong, as said before, this was just trickery to make them do her duties, this is something she explicitly says to Marisa.
Meh, Reimu has no need to do said trickery, she can call Marisa and use her to catch the fairies and force them to work, this particular method is just her trying to justify herself being nice to youkai for a change.
>Also, you're saying she magically stops suspecting them just like that? Come on. That's yet another meaningless assumption.
Or she realizes she makes them sad, and there's no prank or anything that follows, so she's in the wrong in turning them down.
>She clearly does
Let's be clear on this, it's not that she inherently hates youkai in party, she just hates the fact if youkai come over, no humans are going to come, that's pretty different.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 20:55:55 2014 No.12605377

>>12605358
>but she doesn't mind youkai coming over
Because back then it not only was just a few youkai, but they were just youkai setting up their own stalls, something that even villagers accept.
>Allowing them to have food =/= personally inviting them.
Does that matter? She might as well have, because the point here is her being friendly with the villain despite the fact that she should be hateful instead and send them to jail, no matter which way you see it, it's uncommon to befriend the people you just brutally battled in an unfriendly way. She's unpredictable and has personality issues.
>There are lot of food involved though, this is constant at least.
I don't recall, whatever it is, Reimu sure can take care of it.
> and force them to work
Wrong, I told you before, forcing them would mean the fairies would hate her and keep playing pranks.
This trickery makes them easily manipulable AND makes the fairies believe they befriended Reimu in their drunkenness. That's a classical thing to do to people you don't like/want to prank, in this case is for the benefit of the one who made them drunk.
>Or she realizes she makes them sad
Again, stop making meaningless assumptions, not to mention they're wrong since SHE LIES TO THEM AND TRICKS THEM INTO DOING HER DUTIES.
> it's not that she inherently hates youkai in party
She does, just not when they're just setting up stalls which are innoccent.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 21:03:44 2014 No.12605405

>>12605377
Meh, it comes down to 2 points:
- Reimu's not nice, she tricks people in doing her work, is lazy, haughty and will beat people up for no reason and even manipulative at times.

- But she's still forgiving at part, which is why she accepts villains into her house, because she feels her beating them is their punishment already and she doesn't want to ruin parties because of her pettiness.

Then again, Reisen did say this about Reimu's wavelength:
>There are times where your wavelengths are alternately unusually long or unusually short.
>Sometimes there are people with wavelengths like that.
>A voice like that matches with no one's and reacts against no one's. It's mysterious.
So maybe you do have a point regarding her unpredictability.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 21:22:51 2014 No.12605491

>>12605405
> because she feels her beating them is their punishment already
And this doesn't make sense because the next time she sees them she aggroes them again.
>and she doesn't want to ruin parties because of her pettiness.
What parties? You mean the small time chit chat she has with the villain that's unexplainable with nothing other than personality issues since nobody in their right mind would befriend the criminal they just stopped and give them their food, as well as not send them to prison or anything?
>So maybe you do have a point regarding her unpredictability.
ZUN has addressed said unpredictability actually, in OSP (chapter 18), WaHH (Mamizou visits the shrine chapter) and FS (Kappa in the human village shack chapter).

Also in SoPM it's pretty much confirmed at the very end, Miko, who's power is to be able to read one's desires, reads Reimu and confirms that in reality she doesn't want ANYONE to fight and wants peace between everyone. So it is like 2 sides of her conflicting, each of which pop up when they feel like it. My guess is her real self conflicting with her shrine maiden education that teached her that all youkai are evil by default (and also the fact that they shoo off human visitors who are hypocrites for accepting youkai in the human village but not in the shrine) but the more socializing she does with them, the more she grows up to them, so the peace-side of her keeps growing, which would explain why now every youkai in Gensokyo keeps visiting her.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 19 01:10:47 2014 No.12606083 >>12605491 >And this doesn't make sense because the next time she sees them she aggroes them again. Yeah, because it's during an incident and she's on the warpath.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 20 22:01:42 2014 No.12612242 >>12606083 >because it's during an incident not even, just for casual visits like that time Yukari donated the 10k yen.

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