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How do I learn Japanese so I can play the millions of JP-only eroge's out there?

>> No.12220101
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>> No.12220106

>>12220101
if you can't learn japanese then how does japanese people speak it?

>> No.12220107

You learn by doing.

You could probably get a teach-yourself-kanji book but I find that sort of thing lacks the real structure and progress of an actual classroom setting. There must be a university or college around where you live that teaches Japanese.

>> No.12220108

Maybe you can try checking the fucking archive where this question has been asked and answered hundreds of times already

>> No.12220110

>>12220106
They are japanese unlike you.

>> No.12220115

>>12220099
How to Learn Japanese

1. Learn 46 hiragana characters
2. Learn 46 katakana characters
3, Learn 100 survival phrases
4. Listen to Japanese podcasts and conversational lessons
5. Learn 50 basic grammar points
6. Have simple conversations via Skype
7. Read graded readers
8. Learn 2100 kanji
9. Learn 200 more grammar points
10, Have intermediate conversations with random strangers
11. Learn 10,000 vocabulary words
12. Read a mountain of books, magazines, and newspapers
13. Read your cereal boxes and shampoo bottles
14. Learn all the grammar in the world
15. Abandon your family and fiends, sell everything you own, and move to Japan
16. Talk to Japanese people and realize they wish you’d just speak English

>> No.12220116

>>12220110
They still have to learn the language through school. That's like saying only English can learn English.

>> No.12220120

>>12220116
YO MUTAFUCKA I IS SPEAK PERFECT ENGLISH. YOU NAWAMSAYIN SON?

>> No.12220144

>>12220099
Don't play Japanese eroge because it's just shitty porn plot leading up to censored nipples that you could have googled in the first place.

>> No.12220166

>>12220115
The article blog thing where this was first written is pure gold. Even the comment section is great. Every word I read has my inner masochist telling me that I really should go to japan.

>> No.12220172

>>12220166
Yeah. His articles are pretty entertaining and worth checking out.

>> No.12220216

>>12220166
>>12220172

link?

>> No.12220254

>>12220216
japaneseruleof7.com/help-learn-japanese

>> No.12220340

>>12220254
1. Learn 46 hiragana characters >done
2. Learn 46 katakana characters >done
3, Learn 100 survival phrases >done
4. Listen to Japanese podcasts and conversational lessons >done
5. Learn 50 basic grammar points >done
6. Have simple conversations via Skype >WIP
7. Read graded readers >WIP
8. Learn 2100 kanji >WIP
9. Learn 200 more grammar points >WIP
10, Have intermediate conversations with random strangers >WIP
11. Learn 10,000 vocabulary words >WIP
12. Read a mountain of books, magazines, and newspapers >mostly done
13. Read your cereal boxes and shampoo bottles >done
14. Learn all the grammar in the worldHow to Learn Japanese >WIP
15. Abandon your family and fiends, sell everything you own, and move to Japan >mostly done
16. Talk to Japanese people and realize they wish you’d just speak English >WIP
So i lost some step.

>> No.12220354

>>12220340
>15. Abandon your family and fiends, sell everything you own, and move to Japan >mostly done
The only one that matters is the last one.

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this is how i did it

>> No.12220846

>>12220115
>16. Talk to Japanese people and realize they wish you’d just speak English

I've always seen people bring that up, but what's funny is that Japanese half-normies on Instagram talk to me in Japanese because they can't speak English, or would prefer speaking in Japanese because they aren't that great at English. I'd imagine it'd be different face-to-face, though.

>> No.12221302

>>12220115
The Japanese suck at using English. Why would I speak to them in it? Seriously, Japanese people are one of the worst groups at speaking English I have met.

>> No.12221313

Start here, read it all the way down, even if it says Advanced it still won't be enough for you to understand all everyday sentences correctly
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar

Keep going with this
http://www.imabi.net/

Various lookup guides for grammar and such, make sure to read them through
http://www.jgram.org/
http://jiten.clanteam.com/ (full transcript of the Dictionary of Japanese Grammar volumes)
http://www.mediafire.com/download/dckt6ix32l93f35/fora.pdf (you'd better print this cheatsheet somewhere)
http://www.tanos.co.uk/jlpt/ (contains audio files and JLPT test sheets as well, the grammar usage section is particularly useful)

The rest:
http://grammar.nihongoresources.com/doku.php
http://amaterasu.tindabox.net/guide/

Nice site to learn vocabulary, online flashcards so you can review them everywhere without installing useless programs
http://www.manythings.org/japanese/
Make sure to study the daily kanji list at least up until level 5
http://www.manythings.org/japanese/daily/

I'm not suggesting any specific Anki deck, but kanji consist of a phonetic and semantic part which helps a lot in guessing the on-yomi (pseudo-Chinese reading). This is probably also the reason Japanese prefer using jukugo over native vocabulary when writing so try it and learn the patterns, it'll make learning kanji easier
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/2079428463

KanjiDamage is crap for learning kanji, despite what /a/ says, but since you can use many kanji to represent the same native Japanese word, read this. It'll save you up time learning kun-yomi and clear a lot of things up.
http://kanjidamage.com/appendix/dupes

Online dictionaries just in case:
http://jisho.org/
http://tangorin.com/

Other web utilities, pretty limited usage but help sometimes:
http://www.hiragana.jp/en/ (injects furigana over kanji)
http://www.rikai.com/perl/Home.pl (kanji reading on mouseover)

Congrats, you learned Japanese for free.

>> No.12221652

>>12221313
Thanks based anon

>> No.12221655

>>12220828
That actually makes me angry.

>> No.12222849

>>12220099

Check out /djt/ in /a/. They have a guide, which is pretty good.

>> No.12222918

>>12222849
>/a/

>> No.12222932 [DELETED] 

>>12221652
Kill yourself /v/ermin.

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>>12222932
Not even

>> No.12222980 [DELETED] 

>>12222941
CHEN PLS xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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>>12222980

>> No.12223034

>>12223008
You're adorable Chen. Just don't honk.

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>>12223034
why

>> No.12223063

chan pls

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>>12223063

>> No.12223484

>>12220828
The first step with watching anime actually does help.

The key to learning Japanese is to be persistent. Keep practicing all the time. Hiragana and Katakana are super easy to learn.

The tough part is remembering the thousands of Kanji and also the particles (not as bad). Though you'll find that with kanji, many of the first characters you learn look kind-of like what they represent.

>> No.12224664

rip /lang/

>> No.12224684

>>12223484
your advice is pretty shitty, except for the persistence part

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