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>> No.12200211
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12200211

Have you caught your great whale?

>> No.12200212

>>12200211
First 2-5 run of the month.

Should I get a second whale?

>> No.12200215

>>12200211
Not yet, she fucking avoiding me for all these runs..
gotten 6 urakaze so far.

>> No.12200217

>>12200212
Make a fleet of Taigei-Ryuuhou-RyuuhouKai

>> No.12200219

>>12200217
Can't put them in the same fleet, dumbass.

>> No.12200221

>>12200212
If devs put another expedition for sub tender and you intend to remodel her

>> No.12200223

>>12200211
340 buckets later, nope.

>> No.12200224

>>12200217

Now, the great question arises. Who is the cutest? Zuihou, Ryuujou or Ryuuhou?

>> No.12200226
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I don't know how I'll deal with this, green a shit.

>> No.12200228

>>12200211
Nope, I believe she'll come to me one day. But not today.

>> No.12200229

>>12200224
RJ for win.

>> No.12200231
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12200231

Remember to remodel your Hiryuu

>> No.12200233

>>12200231
Don't take her smile away from her.

>> No.12200234

>>12200221
After what I had to go through with Chitose and Chiyoda, I think I'll just blueprint her when she's closer to level 50. She's still level 8 so I'm far from that.

>>12200224
Ryuuhou, no contest.

>>12200226
Just keep extra copies.

>>12200231
Song needs improving. Not even the same number of syllables.

>> No.12200235

>>12200226

Am I the only one who like the green cloth over the red?

>> No.12200236

>>12200231
7 levels left. I do feel bad about taking away that smile though.

>> No.12200237

>>12200235
Yes

>> No.12200239

>>12200235
Yes.

>> No.12200240

>>12200231

Oh god, this is golden, when the hell did this happen? Was on this thread?

>> No.12200241

>>12200240
On /a/ a few threads back.

>> No.12200243

>>12200235
No. Fuck magenta.

>> No.12200246

>>12200235
No.

>> No.12200248

>>12200231
My Hiryuu is still only level 28. Fuck this.

>>12200235
Red looks sexier, green looks meh. So red > green for me.

I figure pink would look cuter. But then that's just my opinion.

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>>12200234
Feel free to improve. I'm busy gathering fuel

>> No.12200253
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>>12200231
ENTERPRISE A SHIT
A
SHIT

>> No.12200254

>>12200248

Liking a Kanmusu for her sexyness

What are you? A sick perverted TTK? They are your coworkers, not your waifus.

>> No.12200256
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>>12200254
You know what they say.

>> No.12200257

>>12200254
>coworkers
Not subordinates.

>> No.12200259

>>12200253
Now try doing the same on E-5 when midway comes out

>> No.12200267

>>12200254
>not your waifus
Anon pls.
>Admiral... I thank you from the bottom of my heart for raising me as a remodeled carrier. I will always, yes, always be thankful. I'll always, always be part of the admiral's mobile squadron!

>> No.12200268
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>>12200259
Bring it on, let my waifu unleash her vengeance.

>> No.12200269

>>12200259

How can I calm my bones from feeling some Murrican ship will be presented for Midway? It's even worse than the whole Mima joke for touhou.

>> No.12200272

>>12200268
No cranes?

>> No.12200274

>>12200252
So am I, unfortunately. My fuel reached 0 last night. (And I found another UI fix in the process; if you don't have enough resources to resupply all your selected ships, it'll automatically resupply them in order until there's insufficient resources left.)

>> No.12200276

>>12200268
Are you a Kaga shitposter?

>> No.12200280

>>12200272
I have both, only Zuikaku at her Kai level for Halsey's bait attire.
>>12200276
I don't need to show my loyalty to my waifu by shitposting.

>> No.12200281

>>12200267

Confusing loyalty and utter comittment to the cause with love.

Now ypu'll tell me the knights on the middle ages were gay for pronouncing their vassaliage oaths

How deluded can you be?

>> No.12200283

>>12200276
>123
If he had 150 then maybe.

>>12200274
It seems obvious.

>> No.12200285

>>12200269
Make a .gif of scrapping dirty USN slut.

>> No.12200288

>>12200281
If she'd said it anywhere else I'd have believed you, but considering that's her marriage line of all things, I highly doubt your words.

>>12200283
Previously, you couldn't resupply them like that at all. I can still remember the days when I perpetually lacked fuel.

>> No.12200292

>>12200269
E-5 BGM:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R5A0pg4oN8
Midway! Fuck Yeah!

>> No.12200294

>>12200288
I remember my first days of playing when I was retarded and didn't know where to get devkits. Thoose were the fun times.

>> No.12200296

>>12200294
My heart died a little when my first ship daughter damaged and cried at 1-1.

>> No.12200300

>>12200294
I remember when I thought that you can't advance if you got C rank or less, doing night fighting every node was fun indeed.

>> No.12200302

>>12200294
I remember when I was scared of advancing at orange. I'm scared till this day.

>> No.12200303

>>12200300
>C rank
Heck, I thought you couldn't advance unless it was S rank.

>> No.12200344

>>12200302
My friend still think that way, even though i already assure him that it wouldn't happen.

The funny thing is, he always had several of his ships sunk every time we met. And that is after i introduced him to use third-party tools to monitor the ships' condition.

>> No.12200346

>>12200344
>doesn't advance at orange
>had several of his ships sunk
This is beyond retarded, the fuck?

>> No.12200356

>>12200346
I assume his ship got critical hit and he accidentally went into the next node, since most of the casualties were destroyers and subs.

Shit happens when one rely on muscle memory.

>> No.12200360

>>12200294
I remember when I thought that ships could sink on the first node.

>> No.12200363

>>12200360
I remembered that I thought that ships wouldn't sink if they started the sortie at a high enough health... that's how I sank the only ship I've ever sunk.

>> No.12200364
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12200364

I think Parsley became my fav artist in KC.
Urakaze's squishy rack was the only thing I took note, then after dropping her, I just can't avert my gaze towards her magnificient hips.

dem everything

>> No.12200365

>>12200364
He's improved so much since Maya

>> No.12200367

>>12200365
indeed he has. I sure hope Maya and Choukai will have their kai ni at some point. These two badly need a overhaul with his new style

>> No.12200371

>>12200364
Where would be without Parsley and bob? Adrift in a sea of monkey ears and tanned frowns, that's where.

>> No.12200375

>>12200371
>Adrift in a sea of monkey ears and tanned frowns
Heh.

>> No.12200401

>>12200235
I like them both, but red is far too useless

>> No.12200441

PvP is RNG playground, isn't it? I got a red T-cross and the opponent's double attack wrecked most of my fleet and their torpedo bomber managed to score a crit against Kongou, sending her into the orange.

Just recently, I got a heads-on engagement and both fleet's keep doing scratch damage against each other.

>> No.12200446

>>12200441
PvP is RNG playground, isn't it?
No it's not, you're just bad.

>> No.12200447

>>12200441
The whole game is RNG playground

>> No.12200457

>>12200446
It's between losing lots of bauxite versus a gamble. I never knew double attack on a red T-cross is still that effective.

>> No.12200459

>>12200441
And that's why you send out 2 Yamato class and 2 Nagato class ships with CV or CLT.

>> No.12200463

>>12200457
send your clt's + subs, no carrier. torpedoes will be the key.

>> No.12200465

>>12200457
You can just wait until they change their fleets.

>> No.12200476

>>12200459
>with CV
I do not really wish to lose that much of a bauxite. Besides, I do not want my CV to lose their effectiveness with a pure Reppu loadout. The opponent is rolling a married Haguro, 2BB, Maruyu and 2CV so I countered it with Hibiki, Nagato, Mutsu, Kongou and 2CLT, hoping my CLT will at least knock those BB out. Still got an A, so I shouldn't really complain.

>>12200463
Hibiki is my flagship, so she will probably be a sitting duck if I sortie with subs. Besides, can't get Maruyu without her.

>>12200465
You're right. I should do that next time.

>> No.12200477

>>12200447
Yeah, the most exciting time of the game is facing a new map and deciding your set-up. After that, it's just boring repetition at a low chance of success to clear a map.

It might be funner if they made PvP more challenging. Right now, it is heavily favored versus the player's side.

>> No.12200481

>>12200477
So getting 2000 xp is not fun to you? Way to go with such display of entitlement...

>> No.12200486

>>12200481
No it's not.

>> No.12200536

>>12200476
Well I don't mind losing 400 or 500 baux per round as long as it gets me a victory.

It's the best case scenario when you have to fight a fleet of 6 lv100+ ships.

>> No.12200539

>>12200536
Wasting 500 baux when I can use that to try crafting a reppu?

>> No.12200544

>>12200539
Forgoing the glory of a great victory in order to pray to the RNG gods again.

>> No.12200578

There's no need to waste baux in PvP, I'd rather send ship I want to level, 1-2 BB and a mix of CA/CAV/CLT/SS, depending on situation. It's easy to win without double attack, if you fail to defeat enemy during the day battle, go into night battle - getting ammo back is much easier than grinding bauxite.

>> No.12200581

>>12200539
Exp is more important than at Reppu at the point where you have to fight 6 lv100+ ships.

>> No.12200588

>>12200581
XP doesn't matter in this game but air superiority does.

>> No.12200591

>>12200588
If you're not out to get XP then why bother doing pvp in the first place?

>> No.12200592

I'm going to China for a holiday on the 21st for a whole month.

Does anyone know if the API method will work? If that's what the chinks are using?

Or will the cookie method through KCV work? I'm assuming DMM's site is banned since it's a porn site.

>> No.12200599

>>12200591
Are you dumb?
It's better to use the 500 baux for crafting than for XP which you can get without spending baux.

>> No.12200602

>>12200599
Can't you read?
At the point where you're fighting 6 lv100+ ships you would have enough Reppu.

>> No.12200604

So what's a good composition for 2-5? I've been trying going bottom route with 1CVL and CA/CL/DD mix, but last node is nearly impossible to tackle with this setup, and according to Wiki BB fleets don't make it to boss much.

>> No.12200607

>>12200592
There's tons of Chinese playing the game, so I'm sure there are plenty of ways around a DMM block if it even is blocked.

I know for certain they use API method all the time. Not so sure about the cookie, but I can't think of a reason why it wouldn't work unless DMM has some kind of additional block specifically for China.

>> No.12200608

>>12200604
2DD1CVL2CAV1CL, you'll reach boss node about 4/5 of times(only lucky Ru crit stops you), every boss node is a easy S rank, 2 buckets per run at most.

>> No.12200609

>>12200604
Try north, 2 CAV (1x drum, 2x main gun, 1x plane) and a mix of CLT and CA. Personally I ran 2x CAV, 3x CLT (1x gun, 1x surface radar, midget sub) and 1x CA (searchlight, 2x main gun, plane). Lack of double attack for CLT during night battle wasn't a big problem.

Don't fear the night battle node, it's relatively easy.

>> No.12200613

>>12200607
I guess I should ready an API then, thanks.

>> No.12200615

>>12200604
>CA/CL/DD mix
Why do you even bring CL if you use the bottom route.
2DD/1CA/2CAV/1CVL worked all the time for me. Even when I got red T at boss node.

>> No.12200616

>>12200609
>it's relatively easy.
It's a roulette though. You can either eat a ri cut-in or an unlucky DA crit from a CA

>> No.12200618

>>12200608
>>12200609

Thanks, I'll try both methods. I'll treat my boss kill I got just now with a random fleet I threw at it just because (Hiryuu, Nagato, Ryuujou, Hagure, Chikuma, Tone) as a good sign.

>> No.12200619

>>12200616
>It's a roulette though
Isn't the whole game like this?

>> No.12200622

>>12200616
The entire game is RNG. Easy is possible, but it is just a higher percent change of succeeding after the same set of actions.

>> No.12200628

I did Ryuujou's first kai and I regret it already. Going to be a long and painful trip to 75.

>> No.12200629

>>12200628
Why are you using this inferior ship?

>> No.12200630

>>12200628
I really want to believe the Kai art hate is just strongly exaggerated. I find it hard to believe that people actually find her original sprite better.

>> No.12200632

>>12200629
Cutest CVL.

>> No.12200634

>>12200630
her original sprite is better and cuter.
the kai is not while the kai 2 is acceptable.

>> No.12200635

>>12200629

>Inferior ship

but she isn't anon, she's the best CVL on her Kai Ni form.

>> No.12200636

>>12200632
Then why are you complaining about her art?

>> No.12200637

>>12200365
What. They're the same artist? I mean Maya/Choukai looked like shit and Urakaze is glorious, how can one improve so fast?

>> No.12200641

>>12200636
Okay, let me be more specific. Ryuujou kai 2 is cutest CVL. Ryuujou kai is least cute CVL.

>> No.12200642

>>12200635
>her Kai Ni form.
That's still a long way to go for him.

>> No.12200648

>>12200637
Not everyone is Konishi or Shibafu.

>> No.12200653

>>12200648
>Shibafu
He didn't do any kai2 wrong.

>> No.12200654
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About Ryuujou and Hiyou. Does Anyone know what is written in their flight decks, specially Ryuujou's Kai Ni?

As you can see in these photographies, they weren't on the real CVs.

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>>12200653
His art is good, but he isn't really improved at all.
While Konishi just keeps getting worse. At least he isn't reaching Yadokari level yet.

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>>12200654

forgot photo

>> No.12200658

>>12200655
>he isn't really improved at all.
Difficult to improve what is already good.

>> No.12200662

>>12200654
I think they are magic scribbles to summon their planes as shikigami users.

>> No.12200663
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12200663

Let's talk about this dude's art.

>> No.12200667

>>12200663
I like it.

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>>12200663
He is beyond saving.
Bep was his last good work.
UGUME should draw more ships though, or at least give Kai Ni/art update for Kuma and Tama

>> No.12200673

>>12200655
He seems lazy, what's with those no effort damaged sprites and samebody destroyers.

>> No.12200684

>>12200672
>"I love Taiyaki" - Tama
Come on, why use such a generic quote?

>> No.12200689

>>12200663
Why is E.T. cosplaying as Inazuma?

>> No.12200691

>>12200684
Because she's a generic ship?

>> No.12200693

>>12200691
As generic as any other, right?
I mean, why use a generic quote that would fit almost any other character in Japanese media? At least use a ship-related quote or something.

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What I don't get is why some artists always draw better whenever it's not for KanColle, even in their earlier art.

>> No.12200696

>>12200695
What's Goya doing outside of 2-3?

>> No.12200697

>>12200695
It's because they have to design according to the look of the ships, and not everyone is used to personifying objects...

>> No.12200698

>>12200695
Pic unrelated?

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>>12200696
You didn't know? Goya switched class since she's had it with subslaving.

>> No.12200701

>>12200693
Well Tama is a cat. Nothing more nothing less.

>> No.12200702

>>12200695
More Shobon ships when?

>> No.12200703 [DELETED] 

>>12200695
Actually, I find Shobon's non-KanColle are much worse than subs.

>> No.12200704

>>12200700
Why choose the most useless class then. Does she want to get scrapped?

>> No.12200706

The fuck is with this game? I want Goya so I'm spamming 1-5 and so far I've gotten 4 Imuyas, 3 Ikus and a Hachi.

Just, why?

>> No.12200708

>>12200706
I got Goya from 2-5 just now. I was being Ahab though...

>> No.12200709

>>12200706
Go spam 4-2 instead.

>> No.12200717

>>12200709

I don't want to spend buckets + the experience of the 1-5 runs doesn''t go to waste since I'm training a CVL and 2 CLs.

>> No.12200724

>>12200698
Shobon is probably overall my favorite kancolle artist, but you have to admit those subs are kinda fucked up in various ways. Iku's oversized pelvic bone and face that starts looking soulless if you stare it for too long, Goya looking like she's packing something extra due to the lightning, the weird twist at Imuya's neck and her overall messed up facial anatomy, all of them having hair that looks like it's made out of paper. And the overall style is just far less polished than on his other stuff.

>> No.12200727

>>12200724
But Goya packing a torpedo is part of her appeal!

>> No.12200730

>>12200724
Don't remind me of the bulge.

>> No.12200734

>>12200730
Bulge? What bulge, It's just her cute belly.

>> No.12200736

>>12200730

not liking her cute belly.

>> No.12200738

>>12200734
Suure.

>> No.12200740

>>12200730
don't hate on mizugi tummy

>> No.12200741

>>12200662

One thing that always kinda bothered me was that some CVLs are shinikami (or puppet) users while others use bows... like almost all CVs. I know CVL/CV distinction is pretty fluid, but it still sets off my OCD.

>> No.12200745

>>12200741
What about chitochiyos puppets? And it's better to have some diversity.

>> No.12200746

>>12200741
I'm fine with the variation, but I find the puppeteer concept really silly. There's no way a plane controlled directly by strings can fight on par with a plane launched by a fucking bow.

>> No.12200748

>>12200746
> There's no way a plane controlled directly by strings can fight on par with a plane launched by a fucking bow.
It's magic, I don't need to explain this shit;

>> No.12200749

>>12200745
>What about chitochiyos puppets?
Sorry for being illiterate.

>> No.12200751

>>12200746
That's not how these planes work.

>> No.12200753

>>12200746

Isn't kitting out CVLs with weapons already used by CV not really conductive to increasing variation?

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>>12200724
Thank god i didn't (and still don't) notice those.imperfection.

>>12200730
Pic related.

>> No.12200772

>>12200672
Holy shit, he improved.

>> No.12200838

>>12200746
It's just a control tool. These planes do not fight directly, Chitose has another set for this.

>> No.12200859

The best fleet for 2-5 is 3CA(v) 2DD 1CVL?

Does using CLTs break the rules for always shortest way to boss node?

>> No.12200865

>>12200859
There's no best fleet.

>> No.12200874

Do you think that all relevant CV will get kai2s before Midway?

>> No.12200875

I wish Midway came sooner, I want last repair facility.

>> No.12200878

>>12200874
Doubt it.
One or two will get it before Midway.
And if we are lucky, the rest during Midway event.

>> No.12200881

>>12200874
>all relevant CV
Who?

>> No.12200883

>>12200859
>does using CLTs
No, I kept using Ooi and always got to the boss (when not getting hit to red on the Ru node).

>> No.12200893

Any advice for 5-3? I need to defeat the boss one last time and I'm stuck.

I been using CL/CLT/4DDs and can get to the boss roughly once ever 10-15 sorties or so. When I do make it, I usually have only three ships able to enter night battle. I go line abreast to kill the sub, but can never take down any other ships so I'm left with 5 enemies at night. My ships never target the transport.

>> No.12200894

>>12200893
use subs.

>> No.12200895

>>12200893
Line abreast is just asking for failure

>> No.12200896

>>12200893
>CLT for 5-3.
The fuck.

>> No.12200898

Can someone post Iona, I forgot the recipe for Taihou.

>> No.12200899

>>12200893
Sell your soul to the Lucifer or Beelzebub(the latter is cuter), become a luck vampire and steal other people's fortune, hack DMM's servers and clear the map manually.
Seriously, it's RNG, you can't do anything to influence it besides voodoo magic.

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>>12200898
Geez anon how many times has this been and you still don't remember it.
It can't be helped. Here.

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>>12200899
> (the latter is cuter)
No.

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Feels good to reach 6 digits resource for the first time.

>> No.12200926

>>12200920
I don't know why, but I don't want to lose the 6 digit status. I am actually mentally subtracting 100k from every resource nowadays...

>> No.12200928

>>12200920
Better get your fuel and ammo up, son.
Midway will be soon upon us.

>> No.12200930

>>12200928
Been running expeditions 2 and 38 ever since the last event but they just don't go up.

>> No.12200932

>>12200930
It's time to stop sortieing anon

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>>12200928
Been doing just that, dad.

>> No.12200935

>>12200930
Stop whaling

>> No.12200938

>>12200934
Good boy. Now go help your mother get dinner ready.

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>>12200928
I want Wo to whisper reassuringly in my ear about how Midway is months away and that 50k each is more than enough.

>> No.12200943

>>12200932
Never, I'll just subslave until 12 world4 boss weekly and do the last ones normally.
>>12200935
I'm not, my resources are probably from Urakaze farming (from before Taigei was introduced). Too upset to go there again.

>> No.12200949

>>12200940
wwwwwwwwww

>> No.12200952

>>12200940
>5526 bauxite
You can barely do Taihou recipe with it. Go for it!

>> No.12200969

>>12200952
Please stop, anon. There's a reason it's so low already.

>> No.12200973

Oh god what the fuck.

I want to do LSC so badly, but I know it's going to go so fucking badly for me. It pains me just to look at the button. Everyday I sign on to this shit game all I hear are thousand of whispers of "large ship construction, fucking do it faggot fucking do it, fuck Midway don't you want ships? DO IT FAGGOT FUCKING DO IT"

Then you have my friend who doesn't script, doesn't even do his dailies, tries 2 LSC attempts and gets Taihou+Mutsu.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK. Fuck this shit game, fuck RNG, fuck spamming 3-2 trying to get the Kongou sisters for your 4th fleet, fuck spamming 1-5 trying to get subs, fuck doing Daily Sortie #7, fuck everything.

Goddamn bucket collection simulator 2014, you are such a fucking shit game. Why are you so addicting, I swear someone snort 20 lbs of cocaine everyday for a year and break that addiction before quitting this game

>> No.12200975

>>12200973
Kancolle is nowhere near as addicting as Cocaine

>> No.12200981

>>12200973
>Then you have my friend
>trying to get the Kongou sisters for your 4th fleet
Who let this guy in there?
And don't do LSC without a 4th fleet masochistic anon.

>> No.12200987

>>12200981
Based on what he said I think he is a scriptfag anyway.

>> No.12200995

We need to stop the rumors that complaining on /jp/ will give you good luck.

Otherwise, we'll just keep getting wikia retards making posts like this >>12200973

>> No.12200996

>>12200975
Cocaine is not that addictive though, and depending on how autistic you are Kancolle might be much more addictive.

>> No.12201001

TTKs, what's your favorite side activity while playing KanColle?

>> No.12201002

>>12200995
But I did get my Taihou after I complained on /jp/.

>> No.12201013

>>12201001
Shitposting on both the /a/ and /jp/ threads. Or playing football manager.

>> No.12201014

>>12201001
Snorting cocaine.
>>12201002
After I complained on /jp/, I crafted 2 46cms in one daily quest day. Bitching on /jp/ is how you get RNG on your side, apparently.

>> No.12201016

>>12201014
>Bitching on /jp/ is how you get RNG on your side, apparently.
No it's not. Otherwise I wouldn't be in No-Nagato club.

>> No.12201018

>>12201001
Sorting daily pixiv dumps and masturbating.

>> No.12201019

>>12201016
You're just not bitching hard enough.

>> No.12201023
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12201023

Can I stop yet?
I want to go whaling, but Midway scares me.

>> No.12201029
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Soo, I don't understand, Nagato is supposed to drop in 3-3 yet I've never gotten one despite getting so many Mutsus or Maikazes there and doing my weeklies every week.She does not appear to be in my LSC pool either.
Am I doing something wrong or does this shipgirl not exist? Well I'm off to 3-3 now.

>> No.12201032

>>12201023
>not even 100k

>> No.12201036
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>>12201029
Events are the best place.

>> No.12201042

>>12200609
>Don't fear the night battle node, it's relatively easy.
Not him, but I kept eating crits in the torpedo phase at the first node in the northern route so I couldn't even get to worry about the night battle node. At least I could get past the first node in the southern route.

>> No.12201080

>>12201032
But wo said 50k should be enough.

>> No.12201082

>>12201080
That was for the past event, stop living in the past.

>> No.12201086

>>12201082
>stop living in the past
This feels strangely ironic given we're all playing a game about WW2 ships.

>> No.12201089

>>12201001
I've been putting on educational videos. This kind of multitasking makes me feel better about sinking hours of my life into a worthless timesink game. Right now I'm learning about really basic structural engineering.

>> No.12201095

>>12201001
Typesetting some comics (also trying my hand at cleaning raws to improve my PSD skills), Having 2 monitors made this kind of multitasking easy.

>> No.12201100

>>12201001
Doing reps

>> No.12201107

>>12201001
Checking various websites, learning Python, posting in KanColle threads or watching vids. Depends if I'm really tired or not.

>> No.12201119

>>12201001
Salty bet, or wathever other good thing are on stream.

>> No.12201121

>>12201107
>>12201100
>>12201089
Is Kancolle slowly turning us all into productive members of society?

Is this what they call irony? Oh, two of my ships are being repaired and it'll be a while before my expeditions are done... Better learn a programming language, get back to getting my Bachelors in engineering, ect.

>> No.12201124

>>12200700
She should at least wear a Shimakaze outfit.

>>12200859
You can add 1 CLT for south route, not sure about north.

>>12200881
All 1st and 2nd CarDiv.

>> No.12201127

>>12201121
That's rather selective reading there. The other responses are all things that probably wouldn't count as productive towards society.

>> No.12201141

>>12201001
Recently I've been playing EU4 while I kancolle, or maybe it's the other way around. Removing kebabs in between fruitless whaling sorties.

>> No.12201154

What's a good template for a "whining on /jp/ to get a ship" post?

>> No.12201167

>>12201154
There's none. It works only when you're creative.

>> No.12201170

>>12201154
"I'm sick and tired of grinding X for Y"?

>> No.12201174

>>12201170
>>12201167
>>12201154
I never managed to get Taigei on 2-5!

>> No.12201198

How the hell do I build more Ryuusei Kai? wikiwiki suggests 20/60/10/100 but i'm just not getting them...

>> No.12201200
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12201200

At last you are back! I swear I'll never let you go again! Please never leave my side! ;_;

God damn it, Goya confirmed for being Hachi tier rarity. I got 4 Imuyas, 3 Ikus and 1 Hachi before getting her. Another funny thing is that I got her just on my 100 slot.

I'm so happy ;_;

Now I can finally go back to stockpiling and trying to clear 5-3

>> No.12201201

>>12201198
That's not how you trick RNG.

>> No.12201203

>>12201198
I got all mine of 21/60/20/131

>> No.12201204

>>12201200
She's hard to get because she knows you don't deserve her.

>> No.12201206

>>12201200
now sink her again you kuso TTK

>> No.12201209

>>12201200

You'll end up sinking her again anyways.

>> No.12201211

>>12201200
I bet she'll go to the bottom of the ocean again.

>> No.12201212

>>12201203
Will try. Who did you use as flagship?

>> No.12201213

>>12201204

She's happy because I spent three days non-stop searching for her. I've attoned for my sins and my joy knows no limits.

>> No.12201216

>>12201212
Most recently Hiryuu Kai Ni and Taihou, but I've used all of the other CVs before.

>> No.12201218

>>12201216
Okay, thank you.

>> No.12201221

>>12201198
I got most of mine from Kaga flagship.

>> No.12201223

>>12201198

this guy knows >>12201221

Kaga is the rare plane maker.

>> No.12201229

>>12201223
Only works for Ryuusei Kai for me. Haven't had much luck for other types.

For rare planes in general, I've heard that Taihou gives better results.

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>>12201229
Taihou indeed works better for crafting rare planes, but I also got a lot from Kaga. Though maybe that's because I married her, and it gives hidden bonus in crafting.

>> No.12201244

Anyone else really like their server?
I'm on Tawi Tawi ranking for the first time and around 380 there are still people that regularly put out single married ships for several hours and everything. I'm not having a hard time rising further in rank too. How nice!

>> No.12201270

Anyone else on Buin getting some latency? Or is it just me?

>> No.12201272

>>12201270
Buin here, all normal.

>> No.12201274

Do we have to do a ritual to reach boss in 2-3 with sub fleet now?

>> No.12201275

>>12201272
Despair.
But thank you.

>> No.12201276

>>12201274
There are still people that try doing that daily quest?

>> No.12201277

>>12201276
I do it every day. But recently it's become impossible to reach boss.

>> No.12201282

>>12201274
>>12201277
It's just RNG.

>>12201274
Not that hard to do if you're just farming fuel at 2-3 all day.

>> No.12201300

>>12201274
activate ro-go.

>> No.12201336

>>12201239
I keep reading Kaga is better for the rare planes, is she that good?
I'm mid lv, the only serious plane recipe I did was 20/60/10/110 with Akagi Kai(103 attempts). Notable results were:
>Saiun 2
>Reppu 2
>Shiden Kai 4
>Ryuusei Kai 1
>Ryuusei 4
>12A 3
>62 fighter bomber 3

I don't know if continuing with Akagi or switch to Kaga -at least for 100 or so more crafts- and take my chances.

>> No.12201340

>>12201336

I got most of my holos with Souryuu and Zuikaku.

>> No.12201343

>>12201274
Do it before you unlocked the Daily Sortie #7. Worked everytime.

>> No.12201344

>>12201336
There's probably no difference, People are just biased towards the CV they use the most to craft.

>> No.12201345

>>12201336
I always get 3 holos every 25 crafts with married Kaga, with one of those 3 is Reppu. 20/60/10/100.

>> No.12201358

>>12201343
Thank you Anon.

>> No.12201361

So I scrapped my Ayanami early to make room for other ships. Now I can't get her to drop or show up in crafts at all ever since the kai2 hints started coming out.

How do I get her in time for Ayanami-fest?

>> No.12201378

>>12201361
I learned this trick awhile ago, if you want a certain kanmusu you need to fap to her picture..
something about the law of attraction where you need a strong mental image of getting her. works like a charm once you get the image in mind.

>> No.12201385

>>12201378
So I need to tap to Ayanami?
I'm not sure if I find her erotic enough to achieve that goal.

>> No.12201391

>>12201385

There ae no good er of her, unfortunately.

>> No.12201417

just crafted reppu now, so to those who believe in time-based RNG, do it now. Taiho as flagship,20/60/10/100 as recipe.

>> No.12201431

>>12201417
I don't have Taihou and I already have 17 Reppus so I think I'll pass.

>> No.12201438

>>12201417
I got 2 52 fighter, tenzan and a 12a

>> No.12201442

Finally got my first carrier, but it's a light carrier, should I keep trying for a standard carrier or is Hiyou okay too?

>> No.12201450

>>12201442

Hiyou is one of the heaviest light carriers so it shold be a good option both in plane count and in survaibility.

I'd stick wwith her atm given you are probably on a low level and trying to clear world 1 or 2.

Furthermore, you'll get Akagi through a quest sometime so Hiyou + Akagi are more than enough to handle anything until the last levels of world 3 and 4.

You'll start needing other standar carriers, specialy Kaga, to get rare planes and secure air supremacy or supperiority but atm, you don't need that.

>> No.12201455

>>12201450
Right on, thanks for the detailed response.

>> No.12201457

>>12201455
Make sure you post about how easy Midway is when it arrives, in order to piss off all the veterans here.

>> No.12201466

>>12201457

I'm an 88 Lvl TTK but I'll still enjoy watching the veterans rage when he tells us he cleared E-5 using only not remodeled Hiyou and Akagi because I joined just 2 months ago

inb4 the level for veteran maps is 100 and I'm still save.

>> No.12201517

>>12201466
>>12201457
I-I'm not trying to piss off anyone...

>> No.12201522

>>12201001
I watch World War documentaries. I like the one where they look for Kaga's dessicated, rusted corpse on the bottom of the Pacific.

>> No.12201524

>>12201517
Just by virtue of passing E-5 as a low lvl TTK with an underdeveloped fleet, you'll piss someone off.

You might as well make the most of it and post it all over /jp/ to get the maximum effect.

>> No.12201523

God fucking damn it. This guy had a fleet full of subs and when I manage to send my fleet against him, what I see is a complete one full of BBs and CLT. Even the fucking subs appeared at the pre-battle screen.

>> No.12201531

>>12201270
Shortlands here, sometimes it needs 2-5 seconds to load a page/battle.

>>12201517
Veterans raging at level scaling is stupid, anyway.

>> No.12201532

>>12201524
I doubt I'll be ready by the time it rolls around, I haven't even unlocked the third fleet yet.

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>>12201524
But E-5 is pissed easy even for high lvl TTK.
If there is a thing that you should be pissed off about, it is them putting Yahagi and Hachi into a common craft pool for noobs.

>> No.12201540

>>12201533
Say that to Pokehamu.

>> No.12201541

>>12201540
Nobody forced him to use kuso ships

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12201549

What can be done to make this chart more newbie-friendly?

>> No.12201553

>>12201549

You could shoot everyone who can't understand it, seriously, what's confusing about it?

>> No.12201554

>>12201533
Not him, but the worst part was that E4 and E5 were labelled to be extra operations that you didn't need to bother with, and yet there was still level scaling there. If they're just extras, there's no reason to make them have level scaling, damn it.

>> No.12201558

>>12201274
Apparently the trick was changing the flagship. Completely forgot about that.

>> No.12201560

>>12201549
The first step is to get rid of those stupid expandable tables on the main ship list page.

>> No.12201561

>>12201336
>>12201340
>>12201345
I get my holos through Hachi.

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>>12201553
Exhibit A

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>>12201533
>Yahagi
Their loss for farming such ship. It's bound to be droppable/craftable sooner or later.
Personally, i prefer Agano and her sister anyway.

>>12201554
Why are you mad? it's not like you are affected by it.

>> No.12201572

>>12201568
How is that even confusing?

>> No.12201581

>>12201571
>Why are you mad? it's not like you are affected by it.
I said I wasn't him. I was 102 when I cleared E5, but it wasn't easy. I'm not mad, just baffled.

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12201585

>>12201572

>> No.12201591

>>12201571
>it's not like you are affected by it.
Apart from when he had to deal with a much harder enemy fleet. It's not like people at level 80 are still using beginner ships either; there are plenty of them with ships like Taihou or Yamato who could breeze through it. Level scaling only made sense when it applied to extreme beginners like at Arpeggio. This is just punishing people for being older, not for being stronger. And the most illogical thing about it is that closed server populations aren't getting any younger.

>> No.12201594

>>12201568
Exhibit A seems to disprove your point more than anything.

How can a newb not understand what's going on?

>> No.12201617

>>12201568

I don't understand your point.

For me, it says that ships 1 and 2 are named Nagato and Mutsu and they belong to the Nagato class.

I can't see what's confusing about that.

>> No.12201620

>>12201617
Not that anon, but the only point of confusion I could imagine a newb having is understanding that some ship names also double up as class names.

But that's not really anything confusing about these particular charts; it's just how the naming of classes works and anyone confused by that just needs to read the wiki a bit more.

>> No.12201623

>>12201594
There is a Nagato-class battleship inside Nagato-class. That is what I don't understand.

>> No.12201624

>>12201623
Read the fucking wiki and lurk more, dumbass.

>> No.12201625

>>12201617
>>12201620
Ah, so that's it. Didn't see your posts before. Thank you.

>> No.12201626

>>12201591
>This is just punishing people for being older, not for being stronger.
I am amused as how one views that as punishing instead of the devs giving harder challenge (as a bonus).
Besides, they should view level-scaling as making the map easier for low-level admiral rather than the other way around.

Kancolle is inherently a resource management game, despite what everyone say about it being RNG game.
Being older (which loosely reflected in admiral level) should come with more experience and thus better preparation and planning to deal with such maps.

>>12201617
Not him, but one might get confused as to why it listed Mutsu but using 陸奥改 for the kanji.

>> No.12201628

>>12201623

Use your fucking head a little bit.

I might be wrong on this, but for reading it I can infer that classes are named after the first ship.

>> No.12201630

>>12201623
Class is almost always name after first ship from said class

>> No.12201631

Wait, people actually seriously believe that the exact carrier you use matters for whether you get rare planes?

>> No.12201632

>>12201631
Welcome to six months ago.

>> No.12201633

>>12201623
>>12201625
Please don't post anymore until you get your heads out of your asses.

>> No.12201665

Since when did yuudachi k2 is a crit magnet?
It doesn't matter where I put her, all map above 3 gets her to red either in first node or the second.

>> No.12201683

>>12201665
Why do you sortie with a destroyer?

>> No.12201686

>>12201683
the 2DD CA requirement.

>> No.12201694

>>12201686
Git gud then (try to give her tubines or green guns).

>> No.12201699

>>12201683
Why not?

>> No.12201701

>>12201694
I don't know man, I just don't know what's wrong...
changing her equips, changing which slot she's on I even cleared cache and re-login a few times.

something about game itself is hating her, keep getting crit red.

>> No.12201703

>>12201699
Because unless required they're bad, and Poi is no exception.

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12201708

Happy launch day, Atago.

>> No.12201712

>>12201701
I guess it's time for her to be benched. I'm sure she needs a break.

>> No.12201726

>>12201385
>So I need to tap to Ayanami?
Launch your favourite 3D h-game, (teatime, CM3D, 3DCG, AA, AG, etc) and create an ayanami lookalike. Make her do lewd pose and fap away.

>> No.12201734

>>12201549
I don't get it, it's pretty friendly already. If you want it to even friendlier, allow them to sort by the stats the reader may be interested in. But seriously, no need to fix what's not broken.

>> No.12201740

>>12201631
Welcome to your average kancolle thread, the amount of faith gathered here can power the gods for a year.

>> No.12201743

>>12201665
A rather curious question, when was the last time you sortie her? I got this inane idea that the unused ships, despite leveled, are going to perform suboptimally for a while before 'getting' used to battle again.

>> No.12201746

>>12201743
I don't quite get you're trying to say but I've been using her every chance I get since the day I get her.
she's a regular.

>> No.12201752

>>12201746
Oh well, it's a silly theory anyway. Think of it like not riding a bicycle for a very long time. When one rides the bicycle again, it takes a while to get used to it again.

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Best carrier for all occasions has arrived

>> No.12201771

>>12201726
I like how you think.

>> No.12201786

>New Quest
>Have only Ayanami as your flagship and make it to the 3-2 boss with at least C ranking
>Reward includes DevMat x5 and a special gun

>> No.12201794

>>12201786
just take 5 sacrificial red ships to sink at the preboss

>> No.12201812

Been trying to get to boss node on 2-5 for weeks and only did once before lolred. It's just as bad as 5-3. Suggest me your magic fleets.

>> No.12201814

>>12201812
Try reading the thread or archives.

>> No.12201815

>>12201812
6 CA, you can mix some CAV in. Mine are all lv80~99 so I get through most shit unscathed.

>> No.12201831

>>12201812
I'm assuming you already tried the oft mentioned 4BB 2CV fleet?

Expensive, but pretty effective.

>> No.12201834

>>12201665
Is she your flagship?

>> No.12201835

What do you guys modernize after you run out of things to modernize? Just throw your drops at each other?

>> No.12201838

>>12201835
>run out of things to modernize
If you're trying to modernize by that point, I'm assuming you're just modernizing for the quests, right?

I just modernize anything that can be modernized. It's usually the rare DDs I haven't bothered leveling or remodeling yet.

>> No.12201842

>>12201838
Yeah. Pretty much only missing AA on the random low levels I have, so I can't throw everything on them like before.

>> No.12201844

>>12201835
You don't. You reserve your materials for upcoming kai ni ships.

>> No.12201845

>>12201835
Not much else you can do, right?

>> No.12201846

>>12201844
It's not like picking up modernization fodder outside of AA is that hard though.

>> No.12201847

>>12201835
just send them to the scrap heap

>> No.12201850

>>12201847
Quests nigga. Easy bucket every day and 2 dev mats every week.

>> No.12201851

>>12201850
fair enough. just keep some worthless dd on hand that you can feed ships to then scrap the rest. it's not fucking rocket science.

>> No.12201854

>>12201620
What's so confusing about that? It's like the Mario brothers. Nagato's full name is Nagato Nagato and Mutsu's is Mutsu Nagato.

>> No.12201856

>>12201835
>What do you guys modernize after you run out of things to modernize?
Have you remodel them? If not, do that.

>> No.12201861

>>12201854
Mario and Luigi are named like that too?

>> No.12201867

>>12201861
Only in that one cartoon.

And the movie, but we don't talk about that.

>> No.12201869

We really need a better bauxite expedition. Make it require 4CVs or something I don't give a fuck.

>> No.12201870

>>12201869
120/hr used to be the highest gain for anything, and it was only shared with steel.

>> No.12201872

>>12201870
for anything with a short expedition*

>> No.12201883

What use does the type 2 recon plane have from RJ?

>> No.12201889

It really tells something about your TTK abilities when you get constant D's in PvP's.

>> No.12201892

>>12201889
At least it's not constant E's.

>> No.12201901

I want Yuugen or abec to draw a shipgirl for me.

>> No.12201904

>>12201834
Yeah, including that too and I didn't even do any night battle.

>> No.12201913

>>12201904
Does she get crit in the torpedo phase?

>> No.12201915

>>12201913
Either that or during the shelling phase where all guns going for her.

>> No.12201918

>>12201915
What's your fleet? I assume you're doing 2-5?

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12201924

I didn't know they were in Brunei.

>> No.12201932

>>12201918
If I went to 2-5 then its 2DD 1CA 2CAV CVL, random redcrit but poi always in the list.
4-2 then its 3DD 1CA 1CV 1CVL, poi getting orange first among the 3 DD.
4-4 then its 2DD 1CA 2BB 1CL, always poi redcrit during or before Wo node.

>> No.12201935

>>12201932
She hates you, it's time to scrap her.

>> No.12201939

>>12201924
I have someone who left just their 99 Taihou out for pvp and after the reset. Except that person has full on Japanese in their comment.

>> No.12201941

>>12201924
I didn't know their accounts haven't been banned yet after their UI translation fiasco.

>> No.12201949

My support fleet just killed Wo-Kai instantly with one shot, what the hell

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Anyone else here a Kancolle Tablet-toting teitoku here?
A friend introduced me to these Lenovo Miix 2 8 refurbs(apparently Grabacr07 devs on them too) and I've been constantly tethering my phone to it to play on the road

>> No.12201952

>>12201951
Does it lag like maple syrup? If the speed is bearable and affordable, I may opt to get that over a Surface Pro 2 since fuck forking over $1000 just to play a flash ship game.

>> No.12201953

>>12201932
Well shit.

Level a new poi and use her instead then, I guess.

>> No.12201967

>>12201953
Eeehh.. but I keep using her because she's almost 99.

But that's the thing, recently my fleet seem to be not on the favored side.. I could get A rank win at most in that 5-4 easy map while using the same exact fleet weeks ago I could get S perfect.

>> No.12201968

>>12201952
No lag at all. Heck, it even runs smoother than my PC. I think it's because IE was made to especially run well with Win 8.1.

I got this for $160(refurbished)(New MSRP $300) shipped off of Lenovo's "outlet" site. I haven't seen the refurbs show up lately, but sometimes, a "scratch & dent" resale goes up for sub-$120.

In total, got 3 other friends with these running KCV without any issues. A Win8.1 tablet, so pair it with a 64GB micro SD and you can do more than just Kancolle.

>> No.12201986

>>12201968
I see. I almost regret getting a Nexus 7 now (Android and Kancolle just don't mix.) but for refurbished priced that low I think I can buy another tablet for kicks.

>> No.12202005

So I've got 4 regular carriers: Akagi, Kaga, Souryuu and Shoukaku.

Should I still try to get Hiryuu or focus on these 4 for midway?

>> No.12202010

>>12202005
why not?

>> No.12202049

>>12201968
What's the battery life for tether + kc?

>> No.12202072

>>12202049
If I remember correctly, I was using it continuously at a con... I wasn't that far from a plug because I was working a booth, but I think I went about 5-6-ish hours before I had to plug it in.

That's with KCV and occasionally opening the(ironically face) IE to reference stuff from the wiki. Tethering via WiFi from phone, you may have better results tethering over Bluetooth, but I've yet to try.

>> No.12202079

>>12201549
remove the dumb colors

>> No.12202081

>>12202072
I've been considering this too, except with regards to being at a con I'm looking for a tablet with HDMI-out to show others over a projector at a panel.

>> No.12202147

>>12202081
The only ports you got on the Miix 2 8 is a headphone jack, Micro SD card slot, and Micro-USB for charging/data.

Not sure if it was explained well, but this guy managed to hook up an external monitor to it: kingoftweaks[dawt]blogspot[dawt]jp with article name "Make Lenovo Miix 2 8 Windows 8.1 Tablet also a laptop and desktop"

p.s. fuck anti-spam

>> No.12202159

>>12202147
rekt

Actually I did find a blog article about a nip getting Kancolle to work over Chromecast app, so the HDMI requirement might not be in stone after all.

>> No.12202172
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>>12200211
I'm finally free from this hellish journey!

>> No.12202176

Does blue titkaze drop from world 5? I don't see it on wikiwiki but I remember reading it on some nip page.

>> No.12202181

So, I'm getting my ass handed over at 5-3. Ri's cut-ins bring my poor destroyers to orange on the first node and the second node I get a destroyer on red. Only once I've advanced to the thirdnode.

Can I do something or should I start performing sacrificies to the gods?

>> No.12202182

>>12202181
I performed sacrifices to the gods with 4SS 2 sacrificial DD and sunk it twice in three attempts.

>> No.12202183

>>12202181
Get a searchlight

>> No.12202185

>>12202181
It's RNG being RNG, more levels might help.

>> No.12202187

>>12202181
I found that using 4 CA 2 DD worked well somewhat. For me that is; my sister complained that it didn't work for her.

I should've used it when I was clearing 5-3, though; 2 BB 2 DD 1 CL 1 CA was really expensive. Only went there again with 4 CA 2 DD to check what the boss node BGM was. (Same as 5-2's.)

>> No.12202189

>>12202183
I only finished that shithole after I ditched that searchlight.
Fucking useless.

>> No.12202193

>>12202181
I cleared 5-3 using 6DD, most of them are around 60ish+ and took about 7 tries.
I was skeptical about this before but my cat said just try it and everything was alright.

>> No.12202199

I suppose the problem is that my destroyers are low level then. Shimakaze, with the least is 33 and Yukikaze with the more is 44

>> No.12202206

>>12202199
Nah, low level is fine as long as they're fully modernised. If the stories I've heard about fall E4 are true, you're just as likely to eat crits even when using high level ships.

>> No.12202220

>>12202159
I actually got one of those lying around. Mind somehow linking to it please?

>> No.12202227

>>12201968
>No lag at all.
Kancolle has been resource-friendly these days.
Even toasters which previously ran with unbearable performance should run nicely now.

>>12202159
You mean this?
https://github.com/hkmySoft/kanColleForChromecast

>> No.12202234
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12202234

Holy fuck could this really be happening?
inb4 >facebook

>> No.12202238

>>12202234
Normies use KCV? Abort abort

>> No.12202241

>>12202234
>facecuck

>> No.12202243

>>12202234
That guy is retarded. Should've asked for Shinden Kai instead.

>>12202238
They've always had. You think KCV is exclusive to non-normies? If you go to the wikia for example, you'll find a lot of KCV users there.

>> No.12202246

>>12202238
>>12202243
Would you consider someone who can talk/write Japanese normies?

>> No.12202248

>>12202246
You think knowing Japanese excludes you from being a normie?

>> No.12202249

>>12202234
>Jude Gabbac
The nose knows.

>> No.12202250

>>12202248
So what would exclude you from being a normie anyway.
inbefore facefuck

>> No.12202254

>>12202227
That has to do with them making each page into its own swf file, right?

>> No.12202257

>>12202254
They boosted the performance even before that split into several files.

>> No.12202278

>>12202234
Bullshit. Yamato-class, Taihou and Nagato have S holo background upon encounter, while this Musashi is just a holo.

>> No.12202288
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>>12202278
Back from november. They revamped the card backgrounds recently, no

>> No.12202289
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12202289

>>12202288
Yeah.

>> No.12202291

>>12202288
She looks better in red.

>> No.12202300

>>12202234
Seems legit.

The last time I had problems with my account, they just gave me a bunch of DMM points.

>> No.12202302
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>>12202291
Who doesn't.

>> No.12202310

>>12202288
>>12202300
Getting Musashi is a better prize than a bunch of DMM points. Although it's nice that the folks there are willing to right wrong and such.

>> No.12202314

>>12202310
You're a pretty thick guy, aren't you? Although that's hardly surprising around here.

>> No.12202315

>>12202310
I'd say getting Shinden Kai is even better. Seeing that he could select a reward.

Of course, you could ask for furniture that was only available for earlier players. Works too.

>> No.12202360

>>12202310
The guy just finished the 4th fleet quest. I don't think he has enough resources to keep Musashi sustained.
Could've asked for dock space, ship slots, Shinden Kais (I bet he can ask for multiples since he did get Musashi) or anything that can make his starting Kancolle experience smooth sailing.

>> No.12202365

>>12202234
Meanwhile I can't even have the chance to get a Musashi, I hope he steps on a lego.

>> No.12202367

>>12202360
You didn't notice he is a level 93 TTK with 5 digit resources?

>> No.12202370

>>12202360
I think lvl 96 is high enough. And it's not like your resource regen rises with time?

>> No.12202372

>>12202360
I don't know about that, he seemed to have over 30k each of fuel and ammo.

At least you can buy dock space and/or ship slots. Shinden Kai can't be bought so it'd have been better to get those.

Of course, getting old furniture out of the deal would have been a good idea too.

>> No.12202375

>>12202367
>level 93 TTK not unlocked 4th fleet
Is this guy a scripter or something?

>> No.12202378

>>12202367
>>12202370
>>12202372
Didn't notice the level, my eyes are bad. But still, level 93 and no Haruna? Is this for real?

>> No.12202384

>>12202378
1-5 inflates TTK level without giving Harunas

>> No.12202385

>>12202378
Didn't we have one guy with level 90+ HQ but no Ikazuchi before?

>> No.12202394

>>12202385
He got his first Ikazuchi at level 76 I thought?

>> No.12202397

>>12202394
That's still an impressive record for a common ship like Ikazuchi.

>> No.12202400

>>12202397
I didn't get my first Sazanami until 98.

>> No.12202410

>>12202385
I didn't get my first Sazanami until I was level 90+.

>> No.12202420

>>12202385
>>12202400
>>12202410

I'm not trying to be a dick here but, are you serious?

>> No.12202424

>>12202420
I'm totally serious. Using KCV, Ushio, Akebono and Oboro have single digit IDs, but Sazanami's ID is in the six thousands.

No, I would never scrap the first Sazanami because I have always wanted them together. That Sazanami is genuinely my first.

>> No.12202425

>>12202420
Yeah, things like this can happen.

I got my first Sazanami from trying to craft Yayoi from all 30 when she first became available. Got Yayoi in around 6 tries or so with Sazanami as a failure.

>> No.12202433

Next update, not much yet:
Lock equipment button: locked items and ships wearing locked items can't be scrapped.
Equipment album extended for id 101~150.

>> No.12202438

>>12202433
Another useful UI update?

Nice.

>> No.12202440

>>12202360
He didn't get Musashi, you retard. It's just a bunch of shops.

>> No.12202442

>>12202433
Sweet.

>> No.12202446

>>12202433
Oh nice. now just warmly waiting for multiple ship scrapping.

>> No.12202449

Next update is about yasen kai2, dolphin kai2 and is there anyone else?

>> No.12202455

>>12202449
Isn't Ayanami K2 in the works or something?

>> No.12202458

>>12202449
dolphin?

>> No.12202459

>>12202458
Kumano

>> No.12202463

>>12202459
that'd be amazing, but when did they hint about that?

>> No.12202465

>>12202459
Why would she get a Kai 2?

>> No.12202466 [DELETED] 

>>12202458
This >>12200211

>> No.12202468

>>12202466
That's a whale

>> No.12202469

>>12202463
>>12202465
I don't know, but Kumano is the one that should be asociated with Dolphins because of her night battle shout

>> No.12202474

>>12202466
Revise your cetaceans, anon.
>>12202469
Associating Kumano with dolphins just because of her battlecry is rather tenuous.

>> No.12202475

>>12202458
>>12202465
>>12202463
>>12202466
>>12202469
It's Sendai and Ayanami. The hint is clear as day anyway.

>> No.12202477

>>12202458
I mean ayanami.

>> No.12202482
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12202482

>>12202468
My brain farted. FUCK.
Shameful display.

>> No.12202483

>>12202477
She's not a dolphin. The only one is Bearno.

>> No.12202484

>>12202477
Why would Ayanami = dolphin?

>> No.12202487

>>12202474
>Associating Kumano with dolphins just because of her battlecry is rather tenuous.
Calling Poi and Shigure dogs because of their ears is the same. That's just how it works.

>> No.12202493

>>12202487
Nobody associated Poi and Shigure with dogs until after they got their kai ni and because of their puppy ears hairstyle.

>> No.12202495

>>12202493
That's exactly what I said. By ears I meant their hairstyles.

>> No.12202502

>>12202487
Unlike with Kumano the artist clearly said that he wanted them to resemble dogs.

>> No.12202525

>>12201951
Anyone use a tablet other than the Miix 2 8 to KanColle?

I'm considering getting a W8 tablet for mostly just KanColle and playing VNs, and want to know what the rest of /jp/ uses/recommends.

>> No.12202535

>>12202525
Surface Pro 2 here.

>> No.12202538

>>12202525
Get any tablet, install Teamviewer, keep Kancolle running on your main computer while you control it with your tablet.

Bathroom breaks will never be the same.

>> No.12202546

>>12202433
Fucking finally.

>> No.12202550

>>12202433
Lock this, lock that.
Are people so stupid they have to introduce a lock for everything?

>> No.12202553

>>12202550
yes. there are people who've lost 46cm out of sheer idiocy of putting'em on BBs destined to the scrap yard.

>> No.12202558

>>12202550
Accidents happen.

>> No.12202566

>>12202553
Did you really believe that I scrappaed a leveled BB with 46s out of sheer anger? I'm not that retarded, just put some 35.6s on a lvl1 ship

>> No.12202567
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>> No.12202568

>>12202550
A lot of this game is about muscle memory.

>> No.12202574

>>12202566
I do believe that you are capable of great feats of idiocy, anon. I sincerely do.

>> No.12202576

>>12202550
Never underestimate human stupidity.

>> No.12202578

>>12202567

Fuck.

>> No.12202582

>>12202567
I still haven't caught the whale.
Should I keep trying or give up and get ready for midway?

>> No.12202583

>>12202567
Well, shit. That makes me want to go whaling too.

>> No.12202585

>>12202567
Can't believe it took me so long to notice this.

It all makes sense now.

>> No.12202594
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12202594

Why aren't you playing the superior version of kancolle, /jp/?

>> No.12202595

>>12202594
Wow. Those look really awful.

>> No.12202596

>>12202594
Jesus christ how horrifying.

>> No.12202616

So, since the devs haven't put an exact date on the next event, it's safe to assume it's at least still a month away, right?

>> No.12202633
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12202633

They really did it.

>> No.12202648

>>12202633
Cute, where's Ooi's?

>> No.12202651
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12202651

>>12202648
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=FIGURE-006550

>> No.12202685

>>12202651
Fuck. I already have 3 nendo preorders. Why'd you have to post these?

>> No.12202706

>>12202288
Let me just get this confirmed 100% so I can rest easy at night. This means that the screenshot he used to "prove" he obtained Musashi must have been taken way before, at the time when it was possible to obtain her legitimately? So there's no way the story can be real?

>> No.12202710

>>12202633
Is that playmobil?

>> No.12202716

>>12202710
heh

>> No.12202721
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12202721

>>12202710

>Playmobil

>> No.12202727

>>12202706
Seems kind of odd that he would get a Musashi craft screen in the first place.

If the devs wanted to give him one, it would probably just show up in his fleet. I can't see how they'd give him one in a manner that would also induce a craft screen.

>> No.12202728

>>12202582
>>12202616
Midway is weeks away. It's safe to spend so many buckets on whaling. Don't be so paranoid.

I've already spent 300+ buckets on whaling and I feel just fine. From a preparation standpoint, that is. Every time I get another -gumo I want to die.

>> No.12202729

>>12202706
are you for real? there is so much bullshit in this story that it can't possibly be serious

>> No.12202743

>>12202728
I guess getting Whale just after a few tries is the reward for spending about 400 buckets trying to get Tanikaze. I still don't have Urakaze, though.

>> No.12202746

>>12202525
I remember someone here uses Dell Venue Pro to play kancolle.

>> No.12202747

>>12202743
Not really. I got Tanikaze while trying to clear E2, and I got Urakaze and Taigei in the first 2-5 clear of last month and this month respectively. Of course, it's not like I didn't have to work for them; E2 preboss was a real bitch and 2-5 kept critting me to red before boss node prior to my first clear for both months.

And of course, I probably paid my dues with my constant LSC failures beforehand.

>> No.12202750
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12202750

>>12202743
Conversely, I think the whale is my punishment for getting Hamakaze, Tanikaze (x4), and Urakaze all on my first try. I needed a stern reminder of what farming drops is like.

And I'm sitting here typing this, there's my whale. Maybe I just needed to formally acknowledge my crimes against RNG.

>> No.12202759

>>12202750
That star over her right eye is ruining my appreciation of the screenshot.

>> No.12202760

>>12202759
How new are you?

>> No.12202764
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12202764

>>12202759
Is hating on star eye the new fad now?

>> No.12202770

>>12202760
>>12202764
Joined early last December. I know what it's for, I just don't like the stars ruining my screenshots.

I wouldn't bother ruining my own screenshots just to tell everyone "hey, I got this ship as a drop and not a craft!". I find it especially pointless if said ship is uncraftable to begin with.

Too bad for me I keep ruining my own screenshots half the time, for various reasons, even if it's not a drop.

>> No.12202772
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>>12202770
>just to tell everyone "hey, I got this ship as a drop and not a craft!"
That's not what it's for.

>> No.12202773
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12202773

>>12202764
Yes.

>> No.12202774

>>12202773
>>12202772
Fuck.

>> No.12202778
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12202778

Here's Hiei giving you the finger.

>> No.12202782

>>12202772
>>12202773
Either way, not only does it clash with the ship girls' art, having one star makes them look more ridiculous than Tenryuu, and having both makes them look like some rock star wannabe who's so untalented they have to rely on flashiness to draw their attention. The stars would only look good like that if the ship girl was dressed up like a clown or something to begin with, with makeup and all.

>>12202778
Now this one is a good use of the star.

>> No.12202790

>>12202782
I like it how you criticize one form of silliness but approve a different form.

Have fun with your tastes, but I don't think you're going to convince anyone to drop the star eyes.

>> No.12202793
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>>12202782
Come on Anon, it's not like anyone doesn't know how every ship looks. If you want to see them just check the wiki. At least star eye adds a little nice touch you can't see everywhere.

>> No.12202796

>>12202790
It's useful for censoring stuff that needs censoring. Like if you want to post images from H doujins on blue boards, the star would be a good use there. It's not useful for covering eyes, because that just looks ridiculous.

>> No.12202798

>>12202796
But it's cool, especially when it's well done.

>> No.12202799

>>12202796
I don't think anyone is arguing with you about the utility of star censoring.

I think you're kind of missing the point or at least arguing a point no one really cares about.

>> No.12202825

>>12202798
Maybe I spent too much time playing Ace Attorney games.

>>12202799
>I don't think anyone is arguing with you about the utility of star censoring.
I got the impression that >>12202790 was.

>I think you're kind of missing the point or at least arguing a point no one really cares about.
Maybe I am. Maybe not. But either way, the stars clash badly with the sprites. If you like the result, then well, good for you. But I personally think it looks bad.

>> No.12202833

>>12202825
quit having shit taste in screencaps

>> No.12202856

>>12202465
Kumano will get K2 at Leyte Gulf most likely. She was torpedo'ed to red at the first stage by a fucking motorboat, and then survived shitload of attempts on her damaged live while retreating to the mainland. Her record includes dodging 4 submarine full salvos in a span of 13 minutes and surviving a squadron of 30 veteran dive bombers gunning for her and her alone, all while having pretty much destroyed machinery(she was barely making 7 knots). Too bad she never made it to the mainland in the end, her incredible luck and tenacity of the crew were not enough.

>> No.12202860

>>12202833
You're right. Now that I think about it, it could be that they're missing an eye or something, and that the star is either their scar from having their eye gouged out, or a way to censor their empty eye socket. Or if it's an eyepatch, it would justify things some, but then there's no need for that kind of eyepatch.

I wonder why anyone would like that kind of stuff though. It's easily fixed with a bucket, but still.

>> No.12202870
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12202870

What was this. I was minding my own business doing the daily eqip scrap then this fairy popped and stopped me. I couldn't scrap anything until I deselected and reselected stuff.

>> No.12202871

>>12202860
Dood, you are thinking about this way too much.
Stars over the eyes: some like, some don't.

Aesthetic tastes can be rationalized to some degree, but in the end it's a black box made from the culmination of your experiences and inherent preferences.

>> No.12202873

>>12202856
But Leyte Gulf is nowhere in summer, and no CAV has been announced to have gotten a new Kai 2.

>> No.12202889

>>12202870
>daily equip scrap
What's this? Do you just scrap some equipment everyday for the hell of it?

>> No.12202891

>>12202873
> But Leyte Gulf is nowhere in summer, and no CAV has been announced to have gotten a new Kai 2.
>> Kumano will get K2 at Leyte Gulf most likely.
Where does it says that Leyte Gulf will be at summer, or CAVs were announced to get K2?

>> No.12202892

>>12202871
Above anon called my taste in screencaps shit, and I wanted to know why, so I posted that in response.

I guess your post makes more sense though.

>>12202889
He probably meant weekly.

>> No.12202896

>>12202889
Weekly, obviously

>> No.12202899

>>12202891
Sorry, meant "wasn't"; it occurred in October.

That said, who was it who posted >>12202856, again?

>> No.12202901

>>12202899
It was me, >>12202891!
Kumano will get K2 surely, but not now. I was just pointing out the most likely time she'll get it.

>> No.12202904

>>12202901
Oh. Alright then, that really threw me off.

>> No.12202906

>>12202904
Sorry for misleading you.

>> No.12202947

So do we all agree that Sendai K2 will be the new best CL?

>> No.12202953

>>12202947
No art to judge with my dick(the most accurate detector of best ships) yet.

>> No.12202957

>>12202947
No.

>> No.12202958

>>12202953

I saw some (fake) art of her earlier and it looked quite dull. She'll not be well portrayed unless she gets Poi or Tone Kai Ni level of awesomeness.

>> No.12202962

>>12202947
Statswise, likely.
Hopefully the art will be decent.

>> No.12202970

>>12202958
Bob's been on a hot streak, so I'm thinking she should turn out pretty cute.

>> No.12202984

>>12202962
>Statswise
I doubt she would be better than Jintsuu Kai Ni.

>> No.12202992

>>12202984
Her Kai-1 had slightly better stats if I remember right.

>> No.12202996

>>12202958
Looking at bob's recent additions, I have very high expectations.

>> No.12202997

>>12202992
Lead ship, that was probably why.

>> No.12203008

>>12202947
I'm trying not to get hyped. High expectations usually lead to disappointment. I'm afraid I'm failing at this, but Sendai is already my favorite CL, so any K2 shouldn't change it.

>> No.12203010

>>12202992
Kai 2 stats is mostly determined by how well the ship performed during their service so far.
Jintsuu got good Kai Ni stats because they treated her suicide charge as a heroic act.
I don't recall Sendai actually did anything worth noting.

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>>12202947
As long as bob fixes her proportions I don't give a shit.

>> No.12203020

>>12203016
Shouhou K2 when?

>> No.12203025

>>12203016
She's actually the one with a decent proportions out there.
Myoukou class need the fix more.

>> No.12203034

>>12203016
Sendai has always been the best of his originals.

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>>12203048
Holy shit, I reloaded the game and it's still there. What now.

>> No.12203063

>>12203053

It looks kind of nice, like a king on a high throne.

>> No.12203069

Is there no better place to level ships than 3-2?

>> No.12203071

>>12203069
5-4

>> No.12203077

>>12203071

welp, I still have to clear 5-3...

>> No.12203082

>>12203077
4-3 and 5-2.

>> No.12203119

>>12203053
See if you can get more to stack.
Also, how did you do that in the first place?

>> No.12203169

>>12203053
clear your cache

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>>12203119
There you go. Does this count as modern art?
>how did you do that in the first place?
Clear the cache, go into the room menu and quickly start selecting objects without waiting for them to load (you have to press the change button every time, not just click on them). Do not click on those you had initially however, else the whole thing resets. Works with everything.
>>12203169
Restarting the browser is enough.

>> No.12203216

>>12203212
Quite avant-garde. Interesting.

>> No.12203230

>>12203212

Put Iku as secretary for greater effect.

>> No.12203255
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>Hiryuu

301/31/502/400 is truly a miracle recipe. Shoukaku and Hiryuu in 15 tries. Besides, 90% of the time it gives either CVLs or seaplane tenders for AA modernization.

>> No.12203257

>>12203230
It crashed while I was doing PVP, sorry.

>> No.12203258

>>12203255
What about Midway?

>> No.12203266

>>12203258

After this I'll really start stockpiling and training Shoukaku and Hiryuu.

My big expenses will probably be try crafting 46 and rare planes when doing my dailies and nothing more

>> No.12203275

>>12203266
You're underestimating Midway a lot IJN-kun.
With your current resources all you can hope for is a high level scaling.

>> No.12203277

>>12203266
If you start stockpiling now, you might have enough time so long as Midway starts at the end of next month.

The problem though, is it's going to be right at the beginning of July.

>> No.12203279

>>12203275

at a rythim of 4500 on every resource minimum a day, I think I'll be able to have a good pile.

>> No.12203283

>>12203279
>4500 on every resource minimum a day
How do you achieve this with bauxite?

>> No.12203287

>>12203283

dailies + expedition 6 when awake and sparkled 11 and 15 when sleeping.

Though I must concede it's probably closer to 4000 than to 4500.

>> No.12203293

>>12203283
Ex6 fully sparkled with 3 boats non-stop yields ≈>5000 bauxite per 24 hours alone, you know.

>> No.12203296

>>12203277
It's probably a month or even more away.

>> No.12203299

>>12203293

yeah, but I don't have utility boats. Though I'll try sparkling it.

>> No.12203302

>>12203293
Not everybody scripts.
>>12203296
That was like 2 weeks ago. I think it be in the beginning of July, so you probably have only 3 more weeks to stockpile.

>> No.12203304

>>12203299
Why would you stockpile without sparkling? It's way too boring to just click expeditions.

>> No.12203307

>>12203302
And I think it's gonna be around end of July or start of August.
Besides, I don't need stockpiling anymore.

>> No.12203310

>>12203302
> Not everybody scripts.
You don't even need to script. Kancolle taught me how to sleep in 37,45 minutes intervals long ago.

>> No.12203312

>>12203304

Because I'm working, studying or playing on my handheld besides sending expeditions.

>> No.12203314

>>12203310
>37,45 minutes intervals long ago.
That's too long. What about ex2, you'll oversleep it.

>> No.12203318

>>12203314
Ex2 is inefficient.

>> No.12203320

So my infatuation with KanColle isn't too bad right now, but I'm scared about the possibility of getting too addicted and into it.

What's a good way to kick the KanColle if I find myself playing it too much?

>> No.12203324

>>12203318
How so? You need buckets too.
>>12203320
LSC.

>> No.12203327

>>12203320

Unless you have brain problems, palying kancolle while doing other stuff shouldn't be an issue.

>> No.12203329

>>12203320
2hu

>> No.12203334

So is it safe to assume the best looking girls are also the best ships?

>> No.12203338

>>12203320
Force yourself to only use sparkled ships for everything, you'll probably get tired after two weeks

>> No.12203340

>>12203334
Yes. Fubuki is the best.

>> No.12203344

>>12203334
Not really. Yahagi is hawt but her stats are ordinary.

Of course you have best girls that are slso best ships (puppy kai2s, Verniy, Isuzu, Kirishima)

>> No.12203345

>>12203324
You don't need buckets for LSC, and rat transports supply more then enough ammo, fuel&steel. Once I got my Taiho on 40odd try I stopped this practice though, my sanity was taking a nosedive. I started hearing ghost voices, started seeing faint shadows in the corners of my sight, etc. Funny stuff.

>> No.12203347

>>12203334
Yep, Bep/Hibiki is the best ship.

>> No.12203348

>>12203344
>her stats are ordinary.
You drunk m8?

>> No.12203349
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http://strawpoll.me/1934158

>> No.12203351

>>12203348
Okay, let me rephrase it. Her important stats are ordinary.

>> No.12203354

>>12203349
Ayaki the best. Every his girl but Nenohi is awesome.

>> No.12203355
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>>12203349
Who Fujikawa here?

>> No.12203357

>>12203348
Agano-class has medicore stats

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>>12203355
No one.

>> No.12203362
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>>12203355
Akashi is love

>> No.12203368
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God I HATE flagship Ru.

>> No.12203372

>>12203368
Just go north already.

>> No.12203374

>>12203368
But no one is in red.
>>12203372
This.

>> No.12203375

>>12203372

He'll have to suffer night battle fuckery there.

>> No.12203381

I keep getting Sendais, is this a sign?

>> No.12203384

>>12203381

Yes. Midway this friday.

>> No.12203389

>>12203384

Pls, don't go calling bad luck. I woonder how much TTK woould star screaming in desperation if it really started this friday.

>> No.12203390

>>12203372
So tomorrow we will read GOD I HATE RI-roulette?

>> No.12203393

>>12203389
None. Every competent TTK should be ready already.
And I know we're all competent on /jp/.

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>>12203372
>>12203374
>>12203375
The map in question is 4-4 (first node), actually. I've given up on 2-5 when it sent me five times straight to the go home node.

And RNG fuckery is now in full swing. Must be divine retribution since the first three attempts are such smooth sailing.

>> No.12203407

>>12203402
It's like you don't know about placebo.
Don't put you DD in last spot.

>> No.12203460
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There goes world 4. Now I must prepare myself against the horrors of world 5.

>> No.12203472

>>12203407
I thought 5th place is the most dangerous and 6th is the safest.

>> No.12203474

>>12203460
Nah, it's easy.

>> No.12203480

>>12203472
5 and 6 always looked the most dangerous to me.

>> No.12203485

>>12203472
Destroyers are fragile things, Battleships are slightly less so, but both can be oneshotted by Re-class all the same. That's just how it is, slot numbers (aside from the flagship one) has nothing to do with it.

>> No.12203488

>>12203485
Destroyers' high evasion makes up for their lack of armor, wouldn't it?

>> No.12203490

>>12203474
>easy
5-3 and its RNG shenanigans would like to have a word with you

>> No.12203491

>>12203488
Not really.

>> No.12203494

>>12203490

Welcome to Kiska Island: Lunatic mode.

>> No.12203495

>>12203488
Their lack of armor is what makes up for them having no armor.

>> No.12203496

>>12203490
Hey, it's just one map out 4. (not counting EO).

>> No.12203499

What's the most stuff you've been doing at the same time in Kancolle? I'm now clearing dailies, sparklig ships and grinding in 3-2.

>> No.12203502

>>12203496
I've heard that 5-4 is heaven, is this true?

>> No.12203505

>>12203499
I'm subslaving, but only to increase their level to 55 so I can do that 2day sub operation.

Also occasionally doing 1-5 in hopes of getting Iku.

>> No.12203508

>>12203502
It's so easy that I don't even remember what it looks like.

>> No.12203509

What level is your Sendai and Ayanami and what do you think the remodel level will be?

>> No.12203512

>>12203509

Sendai the same as Jintsuu.

Ayanami, who knows?

>> No.12203515

>>12203509
Sendai: 1
Ayanami: 1

Remodel lvl probably in the 60s.

>> No.12203516

>>12203509
Sendai:0 remodel 55
Ayanami: 59 remodel 70

>> No.12203521

>>12203509
I wanted Ayanami's 2nd remodel to be as badass as Yuudachi's. She deserved that much.

>> No.12203523
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And then there this fucker who manages to crit Imuya to red in this state.

>> No.12203524

>>12203509

Sendai 33 rmdl: 60

Ayanami: 27 rmdl: 60 too (?)

>> No.12203574

>>12203523
that's imuya for you.

>> No.12203595

>>12203509
Sendai: 66 remodel: 65
Ayanami: 41 remodel: 70

>> No.12203613

>>12202773
PERFECT.

>> No.12203623

>>12202773

how much did you have to wait?

>> No.12203626

so, update friday? anything? whats the まるななさんまる supposed to mean? july 30th?

>> No.12203631

Listening to this theme while playing makes me actually think I'm a real IJN TTK...in space.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glGmefPlv1k

>> No.12203636

>>12203626
24 hour time.

>> No.12203667

>>12203509
Sendai 84 60-80
Ayanami 0 50-70

>> No.12203674

>>12203509
Sendai: 62, 60.
Ayanami: 5, 65. There's really no point in giving DDs/CLs a remodel level higher than 70.

>> No.12203685

>>12203509
Sendai: 66 remodel: 65-70
Ayanami: 30 remodel:65-75

>> No.12203774

To ya'll admirals who have Shimakaze and Yukikaze, how did you find them?

>> No.12203780

>>12203774
I cleared world 2-4 for Shimaslut (got her twice) and 4-2 for Yukikaze.

>> No.12203782

>>12203774
250/30/200/30 It isn't that hard.

>> No.12203783

>>12203774

Shimakaze was a drop from 2-4 I think, the beavers... I remember crafting a bunch, there was a time where I got like 5 beavers in 2 days.

>> No.12203786

>>12203780
>Shimaslut
Please let's keep calling her speedslut.

>> No.12203791

>>12202410
>>12202400
In the past month I've gotten 9 Sazanamis at 1-1

You guys are shit.

>> No.12203792

>>12203774
250/60/250/30 during first month of playing for daily crafting

>> No.12203798

>>12203792
>>12203774
Dailies.

>> No.12203800

>>12203774
Rare DD recipe.
I got speedy thongzolas within a month of playing, beaver came within a second month.

>> No.12203808

>>12203774
Got my Shima-chan from rare DD recipes. As for Yukikaze, I forgot what map I found her at.

>> No.12203810

>>12203783

same story as this guy. I crafted 4 Yukikaze with the rare destroyer recipe, in contrast, I spent too many resources trying to craft a Shimakaze and gave up. Then I started grinding 2-4-A and she dropped.

>> No.12203816

>>12203523
In red T?

>>12203774
Shimakaze from 2-4, Yukikaze from rare DD recipe. Not sure if 250/30/200/30.

>>12203786
But she isn't a slut.

>>12203791
So did I. After my first Sazanami, that is.

My sister had one page of Inazuma (her starter) just a few hours after starting. I think half her drops were Inazuma.

>> No.12203826

>>12203816
>But she isn't a slut.
Her outfit tells me another story.

>> No.12203833

>>12203826
You're basically say someone is a slut based on their clothing? Good grief.
What about Tone and Chikuma k2 then? Exhibitionist?
Iku? Another slut?
Shouhou? Musashi?

>> No.12203837

>>12203833
not him but, kinda, yeah

>> No.12203839

>>12203826
She's not a slut unless she acts like one, anon.

>>12203833
Iku yes, others no.

>> No.12203842

>>12203833
>Tone and Chikuma k2
China dresses.
>Iku
What? it's just a swimsuit.
>Shouhou
It's just because it gets in the way of her shooting.
>Musashi
Slut
Shimakaze dresses like a slut therefore she should be called one.

>> No.12203843

According to all the doujins I've read, every girl is a slut.

>> No.12203852

>>12203816
>So did I. After my first Sazanami, that is.
I keep wondering whether kancolle have separate pools for "already dropped" and "haven't dropped yet" ships.
Kongou clones started to drop like a rain after i got my first Kongou.

>>12203842
>Musashi
>Slut
I'll fight you, mate.

>> No.12203853

>>12203842
Huh then what about the other CVLs or CVs? None of them care too much about their clothing. So Shouhou point is void. As for Tone and Chikuma, well I don't know much about that kind of dress, but I'm sure they at least wear something down there.
You just can't get any argument about Musashi and therefore calling her slut?
As for iku, it is just a swimsuit, true. But if someone like her came up to you, will you not say she's a slut?
You should not based whether someone is a slut or not just because of their clothings, is all I got to say.

>> No.12203854

>>12203852
>I'll fight you, mate.
But m8 bandages aren't clothes.

>> No.12203855

>>12203842
>>12203852
Musashi doesn't give a flying fuck over the apparel. ZKMS though is wearing her getup on purpose.

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>>12203853
>Huh then what about the other CVLs or CVs?
Not all of them use arrows and I'm sure she wears her outfit properly outside of battle.

And it's normal to call a character based on their clothing. Are you against calling her bunny too?

>> No.12203867

>>12203800
Speedy thongzolas is the best name I've heard for her

Just wanted to say

>> No.12203873

>>12203860
How can you be so sure? That is not canon.
I always call my Shimakaze as Shimakaze, she is not something that she isn't. Others can label their girls with what they want, but calling her a slut with no evidence whatsoever is something I can't ignore. As for the evidence, it should be canon or otherwise it isn't real and therefore not even a piece of evidence.

>> No.12203890

>>12203873
>How can you be so sure? That is not canon.
It was like this in the 4-koma.
>As for the evidence, it should be canon or otherwise it isn't real
But her slutty outfit is canon.

>> No.12203900

>>12203873
Object oriented programming explained through waifus.jpg

>> No.12203904

>>12203890
This is going back to the first argument, you cannot say she is a slut JUST because what she wears. Give me a piece of canon evidence, somewhere in the official manga, or in her lines, that hints that she is a slut, then I will consider that she is a slut. Even then, I will still love her anyways, I have nothing against a slut.
This whole argument started because some people decided to call other a slut based off their appearance alone, and that just tick me off.

>> No.12203910

>>12203904
Are you autistic?

>> No.12203915

>>12203890
4-koma isn't canon, and people call her seal more than bunny.

>> No.12203916

>>12203904
She's not a slut, but it won't prevent people(not only me) from calling her this because she wears such a revealing outfit.

>> No.12203918

>>12203867
Thanks. Don't steal; is copyrighted.

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>>12203915

>> No.12203928

What is a slut?

>> No.12203929

>>12203928
A miserable pile of STD's.

>> No.12203932

>>12203928
Someone with loose morals.

>> No.12203933

>>12203928
The obvious riposte would be "your mom", but that feels a bit too easy.

>> No.12203936

>>12203929
>A miserable pile of PTSD's.
ftfy

>> No.12203938

>>12203933
My mom isn't Shimakaze.
>>12203936
Leave Shigure out of this.

>> No.12203945

>>12203938
I didn't say your mom was cute, I said she was a slut.

>> No.12203947

>>12203938
is you mom cute?

>> No.12203951

>>12203947
I'm dying to know as well.

>> No.12203954

>>12203945
Cute sluts exist. See ZKMS.
>>12203947
>>12203951
No.

>> No.12203958

>>12203938
Why?
I really hope you are not thinking that only Shigure suffers from PTSD.

>> No.12203959

>>12203958
No, but please enlighten me as to who the others are.
None of them are sluts anyway.

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>>12203954
Amatsukaze is a cute slut!

>> No.12203963

>>12203954
So much for breaking my dreams..

>> No.12203965

>>12203961
Amatsukaze isn't a slut.

>> No.12203970

>>12203963
Lewdifying other Anon's moms is worse than lewdifying destroyers.

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>>12203965
Her outfit says otherwise!

>> No.12203990

>>12203977
No it doesn't she's the purest Kagerou.

>> No.12204006

>>12203990
>purest Kagerou
If you're going to make an argument, at least make it a plausible one.

>> No.12204009
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>>12203990
But that's not NuiNui (or beaver).

>> No.12204013

>>12204006
She's the one who shows the least skin.
Akigumo is to be counted as Yuugumo class for no particular reason.

>> No.12204020

>>12203970
>People are making their moms in AA2 to pass around to other anons so that they can fuck them.
It happens. And its uhh, kinda creepy.

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>>12204020
ueugh

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>>12204013
>who shows the least skin.
At least make her use the kagerou's uniform.
Her current uniform is too lewd, even though it shows the least skin.

>> No.12204072
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>>12204013
But her clothes are see-through. The way she subtly shows off her underwear cancels it out. Exhibitionists can't be pure.

>> No.12204085

What would you guys do if the devs added Musashi to LSC this friday?

And then announce Midway will take place in two weeks.

>> No.12204089

>>12204085
Just continue stockpiling.

>> No.12204091

>>12204085
I'd be happy, but would probably hold off on LSC until after Midway.

As for Midway, I'd be pretty pumped since it means my paranoia stockpiling was the right call.

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>>12204085
ALL-IN ON WAIFU

>> No.12204110
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12204110

Is anyone else getting this stupid error? I'm using KCV, but even without it and use internet explorer to log in, it shows up. I can just click the continue and play but it's annoying to do so.

>> No.12204112

>>12204110

You're banned.

>> No.12204114

>>12204110

Nope, you are banned.

>> No.12204121

>>12202538
That's what I did with my iPad for a while for classes. Left KCV open on my work comp and went to class, teamviewer'd back to work on my iPad.

>>12202746
iirc, the specs of the Dell Venue Pro is the same as Miix 2 8.

>> No.12204124

>>12204110
Not like it affects me since I use API link in KCV, but well.

>There is a problem with this website's security certificate.
Not a computing expert so not sure, but I don't think it's an error per se. More like it's something to do with the antivirus/firewall/etc software you installed, maybe?

Does it occur if you access the website normally?

>> No.12204130

>>12204124
Only the login screen. I can browse through DMM normally without it showing up until I reach the login.
Also it only started happening a few hours ago. I know it didn't happen this morning and I didn't download anything new.

>> No.12204134

>>12204130
Welp, I don't know then.

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>>12203774
Rare DD recipe on my first day playing. Also I got 2 more for the next 2 days. 5 in total as for now.

I guess this shit drained all my luck and I couldn't even get any whale until now.

>> No.12204140

>>12203774
Shimakaze 2-4
1month of 250/30/200/30 for Yukikaze

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>>12202234
I feel that I need to post the update

>> No.12204143

>>12204134
Thanks anyways.

Does anyone else know the problem: >>12204110?

>> No.12204145

>>12204121
>>12202538
I hope you have money to burn footing in the bill for your exorbitant power usage.

>> No.12204149

>>12204142
Kancolle's Wiki is a big deal huh.

>> No.12204155

>>12204143
Happened to me a few weeks back.
Clean your registry using CCleaner or something similar. That should fix it.

>> No.12204157

>>12204142
I'll be surprised if people around the world don't start harassing him to the point that he'll have to eventually close his FB.

>> No.12204160

>>12204157
Why would they harass him?

>> No.12204161

>>12204157
He's an attention loving faggot, so he's probably cool with harassment so long as he feels like people are paying attention to him.

>> No.12204162

>>12203961
>>12204072
Those "ribbons" on her twintails look like a pair of tengas.

>> No.12204163

>>12202288
>>12202289
Whats the different here?
The sparkle? The snowflakes?

>> No.12204164

>>12204142
What a gaylord.

>> No.12204165

>>12204163
It's the overall sparkling. Notice how Taihou's background is all spakley whereas Musashi's is just the rainbow pattern?

>> No.12204166

>>12204161
I bet he's working for Commie.

>> No.12204167

Do you guys fill up the last slot in the fleet even though Akashit only repairs up to 4?

>> No.12204169

>>12204167
Huh?
If you're talking about a fleet formation specifically to have Akashi repair, I suppose not, but I'm pretty sure most TTKs just replace their flagship with Akashi and mix up the order of their damaged ships to make sure she can fix them.

>> No.12204170

>>12204167
yeah I put shioi in

>> No.12204172

>>12204166
Nah. I'm sure even Commie doesn't want to associate with someone like Jude Gaybac.

>> No.12204173

>>12204167
>Akashit

Hey now, that's not a nice way to call someone who helps out your fleet repairs no matter how slow they do it.

>> No.12204175

>>12204173
>slow
It is 1HP/20min.
Go repair your 1HP Kagashit and see how long it takes.

>> No.12204185

>>12204175
Please don't say Kaga is shit.
...please ;_;

Makes me wonder, if Akashi is 1hp/20min, what ship has more than a 20min per hp dock recovery? Yamato classes?

>> No.12204187

>>12203505
Keep your hope up. I've gotten two from there.

>> No.12204188

>>12204167
Yes. I put my highest levelest CV full of reppus

>> No.12204190

>>12203843
That goes for every doujin out there though?

>> No.12204192

>>12204175
I'm not an impatient TTK that has to deploy his fleets posthaste. I can deal with the pace.

>> No.12204297

>>12204142
Fucking pinoy.

>>12204162
That's probably another reason to why some admiral tries to jerk off using her windsock.

>>12204185
Any level 99++ AR, (slow) BB, BBV, or CV should have more than 20m/HP recovery time.

>> No.12204329

Guys, how do i get blue titkaze, im tired of doing 2-5 allday everyday and get nothing, im willing to sell my soul, any suggestion's welcome

>> No.12204334

>>12204329
Read this it works.. >>12201378
Following this method, I got a moby dick

>> No.12204337

>>12204329
Do you need/want whale as well?

>> No.12204346

>>12204334
tried that for hamakaze, didnt work like I expected, in the end i got her in e3 after god knows many tries
>>12204337
Yes, obviously, but i dont think ill get her at all, so I aim for the small fish first, whale can come after that i suppose

>> No.12204356

>>12204346
I guess better wait till event starts, then.

>> No.12204363

>>12204356
I think i found the culprit, i got the 3 meaty cl's in very few standard lsc, as i speak, yahagi's resting in my construction room since i dont have too much space.
Maybe the desire sensor's too strong in this one, like, every artist i follow sudenly draws urakaze, some of my friends got her in the first try,this is really a love&hate game, damn

>> No.12204409
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12204409

This can't be happening.

>> No.12204411

is it safe to use KanColle Viewer?

>> No.12204413

>>12204411
Yes

>> No.12204414

>>12204411
don't use, virus

>> No.12204418

>>12204409
Did Shiranui do something wrong?

>>12204414
Thanks Derek.

>> No.12204421

>>12204418
Nope, the problem lies with what's happening to the cranes.

>> No.12204422

So I was subslaving for 10 hours now with Hachi as secretary. She ate MVP etc. and for whatever reason I was staring this entire time at her butt. Now I've looked at her face and I don't remember her wearing glasses.

So yeah, how is your Midway preparation going?

>> No.12204423

>>12204409
Which map is that, 2-4?

>> No.12204426

>>12204422
Not going too well. Fuel's still at 4k and subslaving's not bringing it up much.

>>12204423
You did read the filename, right?

>> No.12204427

>>12204426
exp 38, 21 24/7

>> No.12204430
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>>12204422
Bad, fuel only hovering around 30k since i still focus on hoarding buckets.

>> No.12204439
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12204439

>>12204422

>> No.12204440
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>>12204422
So so I guess. I'll focus all 3 fleets on bauxite farming when fuel and steel are over 200k. Since cutting out one fleet will affect my gain and I can get back everything else a lot faster than bauxite.

>> No.12204442
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12204442

Any less depressing way to level Hibiki up til 70?

>>12204422
pls explain Midway event, I'm too noob to foresee upcoming events.

>> No.12204443
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12204443

>>12204422
Not much of a progress, been leveling Hiryuu, Souryuu, Ayanami and Sendai for kai2.

>> No.12204446

>>12204426
Ah sorry my bad.

>> No.12204447

Sure hope the 300K limit is within means to beat Midway.

>> No.12204451

>>12204442
3-2-A

>> No.12204453

>>12204443
>>12204440
>>12204430

How do I run logbook when windows doesn't recognise java as runnable file? I have the newest version installed on standard prog. files directory, but still windows is unable to run it.

>> No.12204454

>>12204442
4-3

>> No.12204458

>>12204447
Now this is paranoia.

>> No.12204461

>>12204447
Wo is suggesting 50k. You'll be fine.

>> No.12204462

If Haruna kai 2 is coming in July, do you think that will be in early July or end of July?

Place your bets.

>> No.12204465

>>12204453
Do you have Java Runtime Environment (JRE) installed?

>> No.12204466

>>12204458
My paranoid is not that strong. Current stockpile at 168k/233k/158k/136k. Plan to arrive at 150k all for Midway.

>> No.12204469

>>12204462
Maybe my birthday? First of July

>> No.12204470

>>12204462
Mid-July.

>> No.12204471

>>12204470
Mid July earliest. We get leaks on the E4 prize around 2 weeks before the event starts usually.

>> No.12204472

>>12204466
That should be enough already unless you go full retard and send only blue planes equipped to your CVs or something.

>> No.12204473

>>12204453
Did you get the original logbook from http://kancolle.sanaechan.net/
>2. Overwrite logbook.jar file inside the folder with the one provided

>> No.12204476

>>12204469
There's not even a maintenance at that day

>> No.12204477

>>12204465
I was running it with cmd on other pc and it worked. But here it doesn't. Gonna try JRE and report back.

>> No.12204479
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12204479

>>12204422
Event ready, I might push these to 200k before it starts. The best part is that I don't even run exp 6, and my baux gain comes naturally from exp 5 and dailies/weeklies.
>>12204462
Most likely we might get her kai2 during the event. Saving the best for last, I suppose.

>> No.12204486
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12204486

>>12204473
Yeah step by step then>>12204477.

>>12204465
Well, it seems that instaling java from non-official site worked for me at least to this point. Then I get errors or jack shit.

>> No.12204498

>>12204486
Do you come from *nix environment? You don't run java that way.
Command line: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre7\bin\javaw.exe" -jar "C:\Program Files (x86)\logbook\logbook.jar"

What's wrong with official version of JRE 7?

>> No.12204506

>>12204498
>Do you come from *nix environment? You don't run java that way.
Sorry i'm retarded, please ignore that sentence.

>> No.12204519
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12204519

>>12204498
Same shit.

Or do I need to place logbook in program files <x86> to get it working?

>> No.12204520

>>12204486
Should have posted the error instead.
And get JRE from Oracle website or java.com.

>> No.12204522

>>12204498
>What's wrong with official version of JRE 7?
I don't know, Windows couldn't recognise it as a "command" someone told me to set it up manually via enviorment variables but it's not even there.

>> No.12204523
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12204523

Holy shit Abukuma's voice is annoying.

>> No.12204524

>>12204519
uninstall 64bit java and install the 32bit one, same for logbook

>> No.12204527
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12204527

>>12204520

>> No.12204535

>>12204527
Java can't write the log-file, and logbook doesn't catch that exception for whatever reason.
Put logbook somewhere where Java will have writing rights or run java as admin or something.

>> No.12204539

>>12204519
>>12204527
Windows 64-bit? How about install JRE 64-bit and get the 64-bit version of logbook instead?

>> No.12204540

>>12204523
But Abubear is cute.

>> No.12204541

>>12204523
Pic unrelated?

>> No.12204544

>>12204539
Not him, but logbook don't care whether you use 32/64-bit as long as it comes with the correct libraries.

And installing/using logbook is not supposed to be this hard, it's just extract and double-click.
It's the first time i see such thing.

>> No.12204547
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12204547

>>12204535
Holy fucking shit it was easier that I thought. I wish I could throw bauxite at you right now thanks a lot!

>>12204539
But I have 32-bit. I probably fucked it somewhere but I dont know where exactly.

>> No.12204550

>>12204541
Yeah, moot being moot or me being drunk.

>> No.12204592

How do you guys sparkle subs for expeditions?

>> No.12204596

>>12204592
1-1 solo. What else?

>> No.12204601

>>12204596
I remembered someone suggesting going 1-5 instead. It gives easy sparkles but compromises your win rate.

For 1-1. do you equip seaplane bombers (eg. Zuiun) on any SSVs you want to sparkle? Or torps, just like for normal subs?

>> No.12204609

>>12204601
Torps of course.

>> No.12204612

>>12204609
Are Zuiuns not good against 1-1 mobs?

>> No.12204723

>>12204612
I think torpedo were more than enough for 1-1 enemy

>> No.12204776

>>12204612
There's no need to waste 10 extra seconds per battle considering that you're going to get an A/S rank consistently anyway

>> No.12204868

So Midway island is a precious forward aircraft base in the pacific theater.

I wonder if she will be another Gothic bitch princess or an abyss with eagle flying beside and star and stripes design.

>> No.12204895

>>12204868
More seaport hime, she and her weapon of mass destruction are the specialties of the abyss fleet.

It would be a shame if they introduced another wake-tan.

>> No.12204907

Operation Midway was a disaster right? Who's fault is it? Was it Nagumo or Yamamoto?

>> No.12204921

>>12204907
their poor communications because they leaked their plan and detected by naval intelligence of USN.

>> No.12204926

>>12204907
Both. Nagumo for being to indecisive and Yamato for using highly complicated tactics that eventually divided his forces that are too far to support each other.

>> No.12204931
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12204931

Jesus. Fuck. Sortieing Battleships and Carriers pains my reserves.

If it wasn't for the event, I won't prep up like this. Fuck stockpiling!

I'm finished.

>> No.12204942

>>12204868
More gothic bitch princesses please. I want to see the femdom fanart from fellow despairing TTKs.

>> No.12204960

>>12204462
My Haruna is already level 99 just waiting for her Kai2 and marriage.

>> No.12204978

>>12204960
Will you marry her if Konishi ruins her?

>> No.12204981

>>12204978
You can't ruin perfection

>> No.12204983

>>12204462
Early July.

>> No.12204986

>>12204978
Isn't Konishi dead? He should just quit so we can have our Haruna kai 2 done by a better artist.

>> No.12204988

>>12204986
Haruna kai2 done by bob.
Yes/no?

>> No.12204991

>>12204988
Anyone decent will do, I just don't get the drama Konishi is trying to stir up.

>> No.12204992

>>12204988
No. Never.

>> No.12204999

>>12204991
what drama?

>> No.12205002

>>12204868
Gothic bitch princess please. If she also ends up having white drill hair and wearing lots of lace, my penis will become so hard that fifty million years later, when humanity has gone extinct and the Coleopterous race rules the Earth, their paleontologists will find its calcified remains and conclude that "humans" were in fact weird-looking fleshy worms.

>> No.12205006

>>12204999
A LN author who works with Konishi came out and said that Konishi is changing his name and he deleted all Kancolle related work on his blog due to intense pressure.

>> No.12205013

>>12205006
source?
I checked quite often his blog, and there wasn't even kancolle stuff on his blog or pixiv to begin with

>> No.12205015

>>12205013
http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-24750.html

>> No.12205025

>>12205015
I'm not even surprised. I guess even before the kai ni issue, Konishi barely had anything related to Kancolle since september 13.

At least, he is leaving with the job done. It would have been completely silly to have Haruna done by someone else. It would be even more an eyesore than class done by 2 different artists.

>> No.12205044

>>12205015
Why does he have to be such a drama queen?

>> No.12205050

>>12204547
>Szukaj w Google
slava poljska, iz slovenije.

>> No.12205052

>>12204978
It would be hard for Conishi to ruin her, especially when you considering her hairstyle.

But who knows, maybe Haruna will miraculously have monkey ears just like her sisters. She has high luck, afterall.

>> No.12205053

When is the classroom set likely to be taken out? I have 105k coins right now, not sure if I can make another 15k before Friday.

>> No.12205064

>>12205044
Looks like that Tadashi is making the dirty laundry.
Don't quote me on it, but it seems Konishi had hard time to deal with how kancolle was handled (be it DMM or Kadokawa, who knows), and that Tadashi convinced to quit.

However screwed recent stuff Konishi did with the Kongou, he had the most design to deal with, and they don't exactly look copy pasta like shibafu. I'm not suprised Kadokawa pressed him on to the point he broke.

>> No.12205080

>>12205050
>People throwing a jab at Kurokuro shitty RJ Kai Sprite.
>Came back with a decent Kai Ni sprite to prove that he actually can get shit done.
>People complained about Kongou shitty monkey ears.
>Throwing bitch fit about it, then keep releasing blunder after blunder afterward.
>Wah, Kancolle Devs are giving me too much pressure. I am going to change my name.
He got all his fame from Kancolle, and now he is acting like he is some kind of top tier celebrity artist.

>> No.12205090

>>12205080
They don't design the same number of ships. And maybe he submitted several designs but they keep getting refused one after the other.

>> No.12205095

>>12205080
>People complained about Kongou shitty monkey ears

You mean the bunch of people that aren't even supposed to be playing Kancolle in the first place and make up a very small minority?

>> No.12205101

>>12205080
If you read the article properly, Tadashi mentions that Konishi is well aware that kancolle brought him fans.

I can't blame him for putting distance between him and kancolle, considering how Kadokawa are known for their very aggressive marketing and all stuff done to authors through editors.

Also, I disagree: Kongou Kai ni is certainly king kong, but I see no problem with Hiei and Kirishima. Hell, people are quick to forget he delivered the Agano.

>> No.12205106

>>12205090
I doubt the Devs are forcing him to draw Kai Ni for every single ship he had designed, so using that argument doesn't really make any sense.
After the drama with Kongou Kai Ni, he only designed Hiei, then Kirishima and Sakawa this year.

>> No.12205118

>>12205101
>Kirishima
Did you ignore Kirishima kai ni washed out color, detail and the ultra grown spurt she has?

>> No.12205119

>>12205101
Hiei is the most monkey-like one to me. Her short hair makes it a lot more noticeable.

>> No.12205129

>>12205106
They sure must be pressuring to give Haruna's kai2 a nice design. The Kongous are probably the most important ships in this game.

>> No.12205133

>>12205118
Kirishima always looked like a giant with her original CG. it looks more obvious with her kai ni, but that's that. I can't live with it, unlike king kong.

>>12205119
Hiei has a 3/4 pose, so it doesn't stand out as much as kongou imho.

>> No.12205136

>>12205118
Aside from the color, she looks pretty good. Kirishima has always been big, her pre-kai2 shots her from above so she appeared shorter there.

>> No.12205139

>>12205101
>agano
Look how shitty Sakawa turn out. Konishit is finished. His last good design was Yahagi and that was years ago.

>> No.12205141

>>12205129
No joke. That's really the only ship class they keep asking people to be patient.
You don't see devs asking tenryuu, shimaslut fans to be patient, but they did so for Kirishima and Haruna.

I'm curious how many drafts Konishi had to do until Kadokawa guys were satisfied

>> No.12205153

>>12205139
I will give you that Sakawa isn't as pretty as her sisters, but I find her design suitable for the ship. Konishi did it without going with the easy way aka go DD loli mode.

I won't lie, I was also quite disappointed when she was revealed, but after hearing her voice and reading her backstory and history, she is a good match.

>> No.12205160

>>12205141
>tenryuu, shimaslut fans
It helps that most of their fans are secondary.
While Kongou class does have a lot of secondary fans, but you only know how important they are if you actually play the game.

>> No.12205172

>>12205139
I really can't grasp that you can go from Yahagi to Kongou K2.

Same artists are shitty and never improve. That kinda sucks, but it happens. But how can someone's skill actually degenerate to this level? Does he ever look at his art and ask himself where it all went wrong?

>> No.12205174

>>12205160
>It helps that most of their fans are secondary.
Where does this come from?
It's not because they are useless that it means their fans don't play the game.

>> No.12205184

>>12205172
same can be said for kuurokuro with Hyou, then RJ kai.

More importantly, I don't get how devs/producers were fine with Kongo kai ni to begin with.

>> No.12205186

>>12205172
What's wrong with Kongou K2?

>> No.12205191
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12205191

Why does Mutsu get less attention than Nagato when Mutsu is clearly superior? Not that Nagato is bad or anything.

>> No.12205197

>>12205191
>when Mutsu is clearly superior?
Proof?

>> No.12205198

>>12205186
The usual complaint is how her ears look like a monkey's. And there's the problem with her general design being inferior to her pre-Kai2 sprite..

>> No.12205199

>>12205172
You mean Kongou K2 to Yahagi, right?

Kongou was available right when fall event started, but Yahagi was introduced during the time extention.

That aside, The agano and Kongou kai ni were most likely drawn during the same period, so Kongou was an unfortunate mishaps.

>> No.12205200

>>12205197
In design.

>> No.12205208

>>12205191
Nagato got more attention due to her rarity and fame, but I see way more fanarts for muchan.

>> No.12205209

>>12205199
>>12205200
I just meant that I don't find the design bad.

>> No.12205210

>>12205191
>Mutsu is clearly superior
Opinion.

>> No.12205217

>>12205209
Didn't meant to quote >>12205200

>> No.12205221

>>12205200
That's wrong, long hair is superior.

>> No.12205222

>>12205174
As someone who's drawn stuff unprofessionally for most of his life, I can understand how an artist's quality of work fluctuates over time.

Some artists are somewhat inconsistent in their quality to begin with. They might put out some really high-quality stuff when the muse calls and some really awful stuff the rest of the time. It can be hard to be consistent when your work is dependent on your mood and general levels of inspiration.

That said, there are some aspects of an artist's work that don't degrade too much, namely your abilities with certain techniques. These generally only improve over time, so for instance, the more coloring you do, generally the better your coloring gets.

In this regard, I'm most surprised with the quality of Konishi's coloring of the k2s. They look like a completely different artist did them (which may be the case if he's been busy and outsourced it). Alternatively, he might have had someone else do the coloring of the originals and now he's doing his own coloring again. Either way, this surprises me way more than the general quality of his line work and composition.

>> No.12205228

>>12205160
I thought Tenryuu class' popularity was mostly down to how they're likely to be among the first CLs you obtain, and always remain relevant as babysitters for your Mutsukis. Though their area of usefulness is actually an argument against giving them kai 2.

>> No.12205232

>>12205186
In general, Kongou Kai ni ears are way too big and visible, as if she was dumbo class similar to Tamura Yukari.

Hair got the supreme shaft here: aside of the color, the texture and lack of details are noticeable, especially their respective damaged sprite.
Damaged sprite has a very weird facial expression, the nose is nearly inexistent, and boobs proportions are way off.

That said, Konishi did a good jobs with the legs, and the ship parts. Regular Kongou's gear was plain and clunky.

>> No.12205243

>>12205222
Original Kongou and other ships were definitely his own. Compare his pixiv works, and you will notice his coloring changed over time.

>> No.12205256

>>12205101
>>12205119
Am i the only one here who hate Hiei Kai2's hair?
Her old feathered hair was significantly better.

>> No.12205261

>>12205228
Everyone here still keeps their Tenryuu class right?

>> No.12205264

>>12205256
Yes you are.

>> No.12205265

>>12205256
You are not alone

>> No.12205266

>>12205261
Anyone who's not an idiot, yes.

>> No.12205274

Am I the only one who can enjoy an artist work without asking for perfection? I'm baffled at how people can attack an artist so much if he gets out one or 2 centimeters out of what is considered orthodox anathomy.

Then that same people go and fap to Henreader's, Ueda Yuu, Thomas, Gengorou, Yukino Minato, Shouji Ayumu or Shiwasu no Okina without voicing a sinngle complain.

>> No.12205276

>>12205261
Why would I?

>> No.12205280

>>12205261
I don't.

>> No.12205297

>>12205261
I do. I keep them for expeditions.

>> No.12205298

>>12205274
What I do is first look at the whole picture to get an overall impression, and if I don't like it, I examine the details to try to rationalize what's causing me not to like it. So I easily forgive those imperfection if the overall impression I get is good, but if I didn't like it from the start, I can't help but want to point out why I don't like it.

>> No.12205299

>>12205276

Tenryuus have the least ammo and fuel consumption. Great for expeditions

>> No.12205313
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12205313

How do I prevent this thing from critting my ships every time I meet her?

>> No.12205316

>>12205299
Yes but my resources are hitting the limit.

>> No.12205317

>>12205299
least ammo yeah. Fuel? Second to non kai Yuubari.

>>12205313
More prayers and sacrifice to RNG goddess

>> No.12205318

Just a quick question: is KCV dead? It hasn't updated in ages.

>> No.12205319

>>12205261
I haven't used Tenryuu-class for sortie/expedition for a long time. Currently considering to scrap them in order to make room for new ships.

The only reason i still keep them is because of Tatsuta.

>> No.12205320

>>12205313

you don't. Just pray for then to evade or near miss her shots.

>> No.12205321

>>12205299
And?

>> No.12205322

>>12205313
Tell her you're a tourist.

>> No.12205324

>>12205318
Yuubari has taken over the project because Zharay suddenly disappeared.

>> No.12205331

>>12205318
Search for Yuubari's fork.

Should we change the KCV link in the >>12200210?

>> No.12205334

>>12205274
I'm with you, though I do agree with some of their points. If anything, I find the amount sound and fury amusing. As for why, I you can blame money and obsession for that.

>> No.12205339

>>12205331
>>12205324

Many thanks.

>> No.12205353
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12205353

>>12204523
Why do you think it's so fun to bully her then?

>> No.12205361

>>12205353
Please don't bully Abukuma for her PTSD.

>> No.12205362

>>12205015
Ok I had a chance to look over this. Someone told me this doesn't exactly have any remote connection with Kancolle all that much but just rather with an LN artist who was trying to publish a LN that he worked with Konishi (under a new Alias) that he tried to promote and advertise, but lead to some messes.

To summarize:
-New light novel author 幾谷正 (Ikutani Tadashi? Not sure about the reading) wants to release his work

- The illustrator for it is Konishi, who, as everyone knows, got quite famous due to his work on KanColle

- However, for this novel Konishi doesn't use コニシ (Konishi), the name everyone knows him by, but instead uses the pen name ひよこ西 (Hiyoko Nishi), which might not be instantly recognisable

- Ikutani has been trying to advertise his work, but the resulting feedback has been lukewarm at best

- Knowing that Konishi has built up some reputation thanks to KanColle, he thought about letting him do some advertising as well, trying to capitalise on his fame

- He approached his editor with this idea, but it got shot down

- Probably pissed because of this, he went on claiming that it's because of pressure by the people behind KanColle.

- However, Konishi actually DID advertise his work. Under his pseudonym Hiyoko Nishi, that is...

So yeah not Kancolle related, but basiclly a mishap between advertising an LN by an LN writer and Kinoshi.

>> No.12205372

I think these sparkling runs wouldn't be so bad if they just added a multi-scrapping option already. I always pick up a dozen ships by the time I'm done sparkling an exp fleet and having to click through them one at a time to scrap them can get tedious.

>> No.12205377

>>12205353

I want to bully Abukuma too.

>> No.12205378

>>12205372
Why not sparkle when you reach ship limit. This way you won't get any drop.

>> No.12205381

>>12205378
Even if I do that, I have to clear out some ships for events or if I want to get drops elsewhere.

I suppose my real complaint has to do with just adding a multi-scrap option more than anything.

>> No.12205382

>>12205015
When was the LN released?
The monkey ears even make their mark in LN cover.

>>12205372
It's faster to use them as modernization fodder.

>> No.12205385

>>12205362
Wow, it's fucking nothing.

>> No.12205395
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12205395

Tough bitch.

>> No.12205398

>>12205395
Why isn't your carrier in the last spot?

>> No.12205402
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12205402

>>12205361
Whoops, it's a minefield with these girls. Alright, just a little teasing then.

>> No.12205406

>>12205398
Because I don't want her getting critted on the first node.

>> No.12205408
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>>12205377
Let's discuss what we'll do to her with KTKM then.

>> No.12205482
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12205482

As for me, I want more Ushio bullying.

>> No.12205487

>>12205482
Ushio doesn't deserve it. Taigei does, though. Maybe fatalpulse will do a doujin?

>> No.12205499

>>12205487
The japanese love their whale meat. It's only a matter of time till all those doujins arrive.

>> No.12205502

>>12205499
"Whaled" by Ahab. It's going to be terrible and there's nothing I can do so stop myself from reading it.

>> No.12205541

>>12205502
Terrible? No, that would be absolutely splendid, especially if the entire dialogue is lifted from the book.

FROM HELL'S HEART I STAB AT THEE

>> No.12205554
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>>12205541
Passed around the entire crew. Then processed into goods.

>> No.12205673
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12205673

Wuld u drink?

>> No.12205683

>>12205673
Depends on what it is.

>> No.12205707

>>12205683
Cum she gathered.

>> No.12205709

>>12205707
Why would she gather my cum?

>> No.12205712

>>12205707
So no I won't.

>> No.12205723

>>12205683

Isn't it obvious?

>> No.12205732

>>12205723
No it wasn't. I thought it was her milk, turns out it was an Anon's cum.

>> No.12205746

>>12205732

It's her milk.

The mizugi pull should be enough.

>> No.12205751

>>12205746
Na, I trust the first anon. There's no way she could get out so much milk.

>> No.12205756

>>12205746
How could a submarine lactate

>> No.12205757

>>12205746
Yes, it's delicious "milk". Go ahead and drink it TTK!

>> No.12205765
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12205765

Dinner will be ready soon

>> No.12205783

>>12205765
魚雷の補給は大事なの!

>> No.12205792

>>12205362
So in short:

-Random LN writer wanted to capitalize on Konishi's name, but got cockblocked by his editor

-butthurt, he claims it is because of Kadokawa pressuring him for not associating his name.

-however, Konishi already advertized the novel on his blog.

-moronic LN author deleted his twitter account


...why people jumped on the gun again? Oh right, don't know moons, hate for Kongou K2, etc.

Good job /jp/

>> No.12205802

>>12205792
There's no smoke without fire anon.
Though that LN writer is doing a good job to make himself looks like a total moron.

>> No.12205807

>>12205487

I swear If I ever go to Japan, I'll try to meet him, buy all his doujins and inmediatly punch his face. Then I'll proceed to ask for his autograph

>> No.12205808

>>12205792
>his blog
Just checked it, why are there no posts during more than one year timespan? Did he delete them?

>> No.12205812

>>12205807
Well, you'll be in for a big surprise, I suppose.

>> No.12205819

>>12205808
No he didn't. Konishi wasn't really active on his blog to begin with.

>> No.12205820

>>12205808
He also abandoned his twitter account, no new tweet since March.
Something obviously went wrong.

>> No.12205821
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>>12205812

Don't tell me... is he a she?

>> No.12205824

>>12205807
If I had an opportunity, I'd fatalpulse Fatalpulse.

>> No.12205825

>>12205821
This would be an obvious bait post if it wasn't for the fact that it's in the kancolle general.

>> No.12205829

>>12205819
But how about his pixiv account? Only 7 works are listed under his name, there must be a lot more than just 7.

>> No.12205838

>>12205829
Konishi is shrouded in mystery, really. Even way before Kongou k2 fiasco, there wasn't many works.
His last pixiv entry was just before Kancolle started.

>> No.12205851

>>12205829
>>12205838
Maybe they hired him based on those works he had in pixiv, and then he spent years drawing all those ships and didn't have time to update his pixiv account.
That would explain why he felt so burned out.

>> No.12205860

>>12205838
>>12205851
>Kongou k2 fiasco
I remember that his pixiv used to have Kongou-Kai2 teaser picture. Or do I remember it wrong?

>> No.12205872

>>12205851
Where people keep saying he feel so burned out?
The only "pressure" thing is that claim from that LN author, and that's regarding the use of Konishi's name. Nothing else.

>>12205860
No. The teasure picture came from another site and the devs. IIRC, that was for the dengeki

>> No.12205891

>>12205808
Apparently yes.
https://web.archive.org/web/20131019041220/http://hiyoconishi.blog.fc2.com/

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>>12205891
That Mogami.

>> No.12205902

>>12205872
>The only "pressure" thing is that claim from that LN author, and that's regarding the use of Konishi's name
He had no problem using his name for one of his LN work, but then he suddenly changed it for his latest work.
With all the rumor going around there, something obviously happened and they just don't want to spill the bean since it would effect other future career.
And according to >>12205891, he did delete all his Kancolle related stuff on his blog

>> No.12205922

So how much longer do you think KanColle will be popular for?

I think the rate of new players has already started tapering off and the next Comiket will probably be swarmed with KanColle stuff, but after that?

>> No.12205931

>>12205922
I assume they still get players for all the places in thier lotteries

>> No.12205935

>>12205922
Until C87, at least.

>> No.12205948

>>12205922
About 3-4 years of popularity I would guess.
If they don't get as much people anymore, they probably doesn't need the lottery system, and since it's still there, I would think that there are still lots of people trying to get into the game. Who the heck knows though

>> No.12205974

>>12205922
Nobody can guess at this point. Kadokawa may jump off the bridge and steered the thing into P2W after the anime, or they pulled off another marketing genius and Kancolle hype became larger, or it may slowly die out as the most phenomenal item in the mecha musume genre. Or they rolled out a big patch that made the entire game fresh again.

Seriously though, that ban on fangames are hurting them. That Vita game will cash in no matter how many fangames are there simply because it came right from the devs.

>> No.12205982

>>12205974
>it may slowly die out as the most phenomenal item in the mecha musume genre
This is where I'm placing my bets. There's a limit to how long you can keep a franchise alive, and it seems like they're already preparing for the eventual fall from popularity by producing that new castle girl game.

>> No.12205991

>>12205982
All games, no matter how good, will eventually died of. It's only a matter of when.
That's to say, considering to move on while kantai is on the peak is a bit weird. If I have to say, that castle game won't be the substitute game for kantai, but a complement of some sort.

>> No.12205997

>>12205974
Here's to hoping they'll lift the ban on fangames after the Vita game comes out.

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Castle sieging when?

>> No.12206009

are you guys keep all copy of akitsumaru ? , i had few copy of her but run out of space , don't know if she will get K2 treatment like unpopular ship

>> No.12206010

>>12205991
Remember, "peak" also means that it can only go downward. From a business perspective, it's always best to develop for future market conditions rather than current. Once they're done developing that game, they're free to sit on it however long they want until they believe that people are ready to jump ship

>> No.12206013

>>12205982
That castle girl game is more about the devs trying to reproduce Kancolle's success a second time or finding out what makes Kancolle tick.

>>12205991
Yes, it's a matter of when. Touhou has been going for 10+ years, though (although I'm unsure as to when it became popular) and it's still going strong. I hope KanColle can achieve a similar fate.

>> No.12206016

>>12205997
The games will be a bit dull without the voices.

>> No.12206019

>>12206016
Damn, I just realized this. Using in-game voices will most likely get someone sued. Touhou managed to pull it off, though.

>> No.12206023

>>12206013
>Touhou has been going for 10+ years
Touhou is different in that it is almost entirely supported by its community. Even without a new game every year it can survive.

>> No.12206029

>>12206007
Has anyone gotten into this game yet?

>> No.12206030

>>12206023
Point. Touhou's popularity is self-sustaining and is centered around several iconic characters. Kancolle's is supported by the devs rolling out content every other week.

>> No.12206037

>>12206029
It's just pre-reg at this stage.
The game has yet to launch.

>> No.12206038

>>12206029
Not out yet but you can register and get some points for bonus stuff when it starts.

>> No.12206039

>>12206038
>>12206037
Oh, time to jump in then.

>> No.12206041

>>12206030
KanColle has the possibility of becoming a self-sustaining franchise depending on if the fans get behind it enough.

There's enough interest there to make it happen, but it's kind of up in the air as to whether that interest will stick.

>> No.12206042

>>12206038
Do you have a link for it?

>> No.12206043

>>12206038
>>12206037
What kinda limitation are there for registering?

>> No.12206050

>>12206042
http://games.gree.net/preopen/60462?from_externallink=dengekidaio_60462

>> No.12206051

>>12206043
It's technically a mobile game and uses geo-locating to detect your phone's region.

If you're not playing from a japanese smartphone, you need to use chrome or some other way of spoofing both your user agent and location.

There's some guides I was reading a bit ago when I was thinking of getting into it. I haven't made the leap yet, but it didn't look too hard to at least do the pre-reg for the game. The big question is whether or not the actual game will be playable for gaijins though.

>> No.12206055

>>12206041
The problem lies in the fact that ZUN can put in new 'canon' content as he likes, while Kancolle has only so much IJN history to adapt.

Military otakus can definitely make it happen, though. They're a dedicated bunch.

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>>12205261
Of course, I actively deploy them and they form backbone of my fleet. It hardly matters what girls you use when the game is 100% coin toss between "you're fucked" and "you're lucky" after all, might as well use girls I love.

>> No.12206061

>>12206051
>mobage
>geo-locations
Damn, I can live with the inconvenience of API and VPN proxies before the cookie method came along, but this is going to be really tricky to play.

>> No.12206063

>>12206013
When did Touhou start getting popular? It certainly wasn't when the first game came out, right? I'm guessing it was more like when the windows era of games were released.

>> No.12206069

>>12206061
Where does this whole no gaijin allowed thing stem from, and why does DMM not seem to care that we play anyway?

>> No.12206076

>>12206059
>the game is 100% coin toss between "you're fucked" and "you're lucky" after all
The point of the game is rigging that coin toss in your favor. There's plenty of opportunities to use the girls you love, but you can't really believe that. There's a reason why people clear 5-5 with Yamatos and not Fusous.

>> No.12206077

>>12206063
Loli vampire sisters I guess.

>> No.12206087

>>12206069
At least for DMM, I think the whole "no gaijin" thing is mostly due to the cost of supporting the game for an international audience as opposed to a domestic one.

Even if they were to leave the game untranslated, there's additional costs for providing technical support for people half-way around the world in addition to any problems with laws and/or copyright that suddenly have to be considered.

And considering that the devs makes most of their money from the franchise from people buying merchandise rather than from the game itself, they may believe there's not enough potential profits from the gaijin market to warrant the expenses of providing gaijin support.

That, or the japs are simply being racist.

>> No.12206088

>>12206069
Gaijins are seen as less likely to spend money on the games, with most of them being on the other side of the planet and whatnot.

>> No.12206091

>>12206055
They don't need to stop at IJN. They can move on to other navies. After those are covered, they can move on to WW1 ships. And so on.

>> No.12206094

>>12206069
I think it's the combination of "we don't want to get involved with a market we're not familiar and comfortable with" and "we have no clue about the overseas market and can't be bothered to learn anything about it".

>> No.12206098

>>12206091
Having too many girls would kill the franchise.

>> No.12206100

>>12206076
> but you can't really believe that.
But I believe in my girls, and they always do their best.
> There's a reason why people clear 5-5 with Yamatos and not Fusous.
Where is that dude who cleared E5 with unremodeled Fusous? He can tell you why he did that better then me.

>> No.12206106

>>12206076
>There's a reason why people clear 5-5 with Yamatos and not Fusous.
Because Yamatos are cuter than Fusous?

>> No.12206111

>>12206106
That's wrong though.

>> No.12206115

>>12206094
>>12206088
>>12206087
Well, they haven't started booting us yet, so I guess we're good? It's been a year, so they'd hve addressed us if they felt they needed to already, yeah?

>> No.12206118

>>12206087
Nah, Japan being racist is a fading trend. They've relaxed the rules for foreign workers because they don't have enough labor (and their population is aging). So like it or not Japan will slowly begun to accept gaijins. It's like in the doujins where the girl slowly likes the rape and ends up loving it..

>> No.12206127

Kadokawa has a goldden egg in its hand. He just hae to transition this into a proper videogame and the already huge fanbase will flood to it.

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>> No.12206133

>>12206127
Where's that Kaga pic when I need it? Oh well, just go to sleep already.

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>> No.12206137

>>12206134
Ta is the cutest.

>> No.12206149

>>12206115
The reason they haven't done anything to ban gaijins is the same reason they haven't bothered tapping into the gaijin market. They don't think it's worth the trouble and/or cost.

As a gaijin player, I think it's a missed opportunity on their part, but I'll be the first to admit that the market for KanColle internationally (not counting China) is pretty small. It has potential, but seeing how hard it's been for anime, manga and VNs to be profitable in the west, I can't blame them for not bothering.

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I just want the devs to announce the damm date already.

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>>12206214
How far in advance did they announce the actual date for the last couple of events?

Wasn't it like two weeks before the Spring event?

>> No.12206239

>>12206223

I don't remember, but I think if they don't say anything this friday, chances are that it'll be end-July or early-August.

>> No.12206328

>>12206239
I'm going through their old tweets and it looked like they announced the date for the Spring event at least three weeks before the actual event.

I'll keep looking for the earliest announcement, but I think we have at least a month till Midway.

>> No.12206342

>>12206328
Basically it goes like that. Just keep calm and do your preparation in normal manner, one month is quite long.

>> No.12206370

>>12206342
True. I just checked a bit more and it looks like they made an announcement with the date of the Spring event a little over a month before the actual event.

I'd say we're looking at a late July Midway at the earliest.

>> No.12206384

>>12206370
They announced Midawy in very early June so I'd say Mid-July at the latest.

>> No.12206385

>>12206370
>>12206342
>>12206328
Thanks for the reassurance. The paranoia of admirals already at 150k+ resources was getting to me.

>> No.12206399

>>12206384
That announcement didn't have a date attached to it.

The previous event was announced quite a while before the actual event, but the announcement with the date preceded the event by a month.

>> No.12206435

>>12206385
It's reasonable to have a hard event for a change, but an event requiring more than 100k resources is just plain stupid.

>>12205922
It all depends on the ability of devs churning out new contents and events.
Assuming worst case scenario, Kancolle could be relatively dead in one year.

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12206439

Excuse me for any future dumb shit I may say but I'm still a bit clueless about how to properly set up a Air carrier with planes. As well as making destroyers efficient against anything that isn't a sub.

>> No.12206446

>>12206435
>It's reasonable to have a hard event for a change, but an event requiring more than 100k resources is just plain stupid.
Earlier we had someone worrying whether all resources at cap would be enough.

>> No.12206449

>>12206439
>making destroyers efficient against anything that isn't a sub.
That's impossible.

>> No.12206450

>>12206435
>>12205931
>>12205948
>>12205974

Kancolle can keep its momentum, but the system has to grow up further. I think that a whole new engine that use the existing database might even be called for...

In WG and DMM/Kadokawa collaboration.

>> No.12206458

>>12206439
Green for AA duty, blue for damage dealing, red for support fleet. If you have three star reds but no three star blues, put the reds in.

yellow for recon. Stick the yellow in the last slot to prevent T-crossing disadvantage.

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>>12206439
>making destroyers efficient against anything that isn't a sub.
Git gud and don't give up.

>> No.12206460

>>12206439
Use the air superiority calculator in the OP to figure out what amount of greens you need to bring along. Fill the rest of the slots with reds and blues. Blues are for the opening phase, reds are for the attack phase, so go with whatever you like. There isn't really a magic formula. Maybe add a Saiun in the smallest slot if you want green Ts.

For destroyers, just go double attack setup and hope they make it to the night battle.

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World 3 weeklies boss quest still not worth to do?

>> No.12206466

>>12206463
Might as well do it while farming for furniture box.

>> No.12206477

>>12206463
Not worth it. Unless you're desperate for more furniture coins, Nagato, or just want to waste your resources.

>> No.12206482

>>12206460
Saiun doesn't affect the chance of green T. Only changing the 10% chance red T that might happen into head-on engagement.

On related note, is it better to use Ryuusei Kai even when you have Suisei 12A if you're looking for high carrier shelling damage?

>> No.12206486

>>12206482
If it's just shelling damage then Suisei 12A is slightly better.

>> No.12206489

>>12206486
>>12206482
Suisei 12A for support shelling expedition, every time. I would use Ryuusei Kai for the main fleet.

>> No.12206490

any recipe for making radars? I've got some type 21 and a type 22 laying around buut I want to have some 3 star radars if possible.

>> No.12206491

>>12206463
i did it for nagato with furniture coins as a secondary objective but gonna stop and prioritize stockpiling

>> No.12206496

>>12206489
For smaller slots (eg. if going 3 green) Suisei 12A is better for main fleet as red gets shot down less easily than blue.

Either way I always make sure to have at least 1 red or 1 blue on each of my main fleet's carriers.

>> No.12206499

>>12206491
You have at least month to stockpile.
You've got plenty of time.

>> No.12206506

>>12206499
thanks wo

>> No.12206508

>>12206496
Don't all plane types have equal chance of getting shot down?
Also, looking at the damage formula, apparently the number of planes doesn't affect shelling damage.

>> No.12206511

>>12206460
>Use the air superiority calculator in the OP to figure out what amount of greens you need to bring along.
Should you always aim for just air superiority (as opposed to air supremacy), or is it situational?

>> No.12206512

>>12206506
Call me wo all you want, but devs have a history of announcing events (by specific date) a month in advance.

Until they attach a date to Midway, we're at least a month out.

>> No.12206513

>>12206512
But Wo tells the truth.

>> No.12206517

>>12206506
You should know by now that wo is our allies.

>> No.12206518

>>12206508
At least from my experience, blue gets shot down quite easily, as compared to red.

Yes it doesn't affect shelling damage, but it does affect damage done in the aerial phase.

>>12206512
Didn't they announce it like almost 2 weeks ago? So we should only have around 2 more weeks of preparation left.

>> No.12206520

12a is slightly better than Ryuusei Kai for shelling, but carriers reach cap so easily that you probably won't notice this at all. Maps requiring heavy fighter power will almost certainly use 3x green and 1x type 62. I would say in most situations where you're choosing between the two, Ryuusei Kai is the better pick. Of course for the shelling support fleet in which there is no opening air strike, you might as well use the 12a's since Ryuusei Kai loses all benefit.

>> No.12206524

>>12206518
They announced it was coming. Unless you read a different tweet than the rest of us, they didn't attach a specific date to it.

>> No.12206527

>>12206508
I think someone had already tested sortieing with full torpedo bombers and full dive bombers on another sortie. The amount of plane lost is the same.

But i don't know whether torp bombers has the propensity to be shot down if the carrier has mix of both torpedo and dive bombers.

>> No.12206534

Wo, is it still fine to try crafting Taihou?

>> No.12206535

>>12206534
Go for it, Midway is months away and 50k resources is enough.

>> No.12206537
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>>12206534

Yes, you'll need her for midway!

>> No.12206538

>>12206535
>>12206537
slowpoke.jpg

>> No.12206546
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http://youtu.be/Q4wLSwQWtEA
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22897193

Did you watch this video?

>> No.12206551
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>>12206534
Yes, important for midway
use 2/6/6/5 1 so you dont waste devmat.

>> No.12206552

>>12206511
Not him, but you'll be aiming for air superiority for most of time. There should be specific situation which needs air supremacy, but i haven't encounter any of that.

>> No.12206558

>>12206527
I thought blues get shot down more when you don't get superiority/supremacy.

A question to people who played more events. Last event E4 and E5 were supposed to be "optional". The big rewards(minus the medals) were on the first three missions. Do they always do it like this? Or they usually spread the good rewards equally among all the operations.
If they put the best rewards on the first half of the missions, then that's enough, if not you gotta go for the all clear.

>> No.12206559

>>12206546
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V5TkNb6xFw

>> No.12206562

>>12206551
At least post the clinically proven™ Taihou recipe: xxxx/yyyy/5530/5680

>> No.12206564

>>12206562
We need Iona for times like this.

>> No.12206566
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I'll just leave this here.

>> No.12206568

>>12206559
>>12206546
Man, if the anime is made with at least as much love as these, I'll be super happy.

Something about seeing the girls in action is just awesome.

>> No.12206569

>>12206558
First time they had extra operations in an event. But then, it was also the first event after they introduced the concept of extra operations, so I figure it's here to stay.

Maybe 4-5 standard maps + 2 extra maps.

>> No.12206572
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>>12206566
Believe in you god and savior.

>> No.12206573

>>12206566
Stop posting the fake.

>> No.12206574

>>12206572
>>12206573
>he thinks 4/4.5/5.5/2 is the fake
>implying it isnt the superior recipe

>> No.12206577

>>12206573
It's not a fake.

>> No.12206578
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>>12206566

Thanks Iona!

>> No.12206580

>>12202433
New items:
New equipment type "Flare", 1 star item.
Type 98 recon plane (夜偵 - night recon ??) - 3 star holo.
Both seem to have effect at night battle opening.

I'm too tired to dig out the mechanics, have fun and good night.

>> No.12206582
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>>12206578
Don't graduate before me...

>> No.12206585

>>12206573
>fake
More like an unpopular one.

>> No.12206586

>>12206580

I'm hyped.

I'll patiently wait till you wake up.

>> No.12206587

>>12206580
Nice

>> No.12206588

>>12206578
I don't see a date.
This could be taken from anytime.

>> No.12206589

>>12206580
NIght BATTLE!!!!

>> No.12206592
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>>12206580
It's time for Yasen!

>> No.12206593

>>12206562

So what's x and y. It doesn't affect the results with 5530/5680? So it would the same result for
>7000/7000/5530/5680
>1500/1500/5530/5680

>> No.12206594

>>12206569
>so I figure it's here to stay
I get the feeling that it's just because it was a sort of weak event to begin with. The rewards were small and the maps were mostly easy. If Midway is like Ironbottom then I'd expect a more natural difficulty progression finishing with some hellish maps and really good rewards. Shinano shouldn't be some freebie at the halfway point. The idea of optional maps at the end is pointless anyway since not every player is expected to finish an event.

>> No.12206595
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>>12206572
>>12206566
>>12206551
>>12206537
>>12206535
th-thanks

>> No.12206596 [DELETED] 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4pCkhOVyc8
Okay TTKs, is your eyes that good?

>> No.12206599

>>12206595
Extra large Junyo...

>> No.12206600

>>12206596
Wrong link... This one it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HVRwQe0nD0

>> No.12206601

>>12206580
I guess this would be an indication for the next event. I'm so screwed.

>> No.12206606

>>12206601
CVA (LOS) is gonna be hella important...

>> No.12206614
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>>12206558
>I thought blues get shot down more when you don't get superiority/supremacy.
Maybe, since i haven't tested it on air denial situation.

>Do they always do it like this? Or they usually spread the good rewards equally among all the operations.
No. But since the recent events is using the optional "extra operations", it's reasonable to expect such trend on future events.
Personally i prefer the past event which require you to clear E4/E5 to complete the event.

>>12206580
>Type 98 recon plane
Oh my, they are really going to force carriers and plane crews to perform night operations. As expected of the IJN high command.

>>12206593
Fuel: start with 4k and any addition is only add marginal success rate.
Ammo: should be around 4,2k for optimal success rate, pic related for more details.

>> No.12206622

>>12206600
That's some pretty good stuff. Made me a little depressed remembering that Day After Tomorrow broke up though, Misono's songs were never the same... At least the girl is still trying her best in show biz.

>> No.12206630
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>>12206614
Thanks for the info.

>> No.12206635

>>12206600
He mistake Kitakami Kai for Kitakami Kai2.
Also, what's before Yamato?

>> No.12206647

>>12206572
Holy shit iona webm! How can I ever distrust that!

>> No.12206648

>>12206635
>He mistake Kitakami Kai for Kitakami Kai2.
He didn't.
>Also, what's before Yamato?
Mogami.

>> No.12206650

>>12206580
Oh my fucking god level 21 sendai I need to bring her to subs now huh

>> No.12206655

>>12206580
>九八式水上偵察機
Would be amusing if kancolle devs decided to implement it exactly one year after this tweet.
https://twitter.com/yasoutei/status/352777925248032769

>> No.12206665

>>12206594
We could end up getting some very difficult standard final operations (15% clear rate) and a couple of even more difficult extra operations after that.

>> No.12206682

>>12206655
Speaking of things being implemented years after their mention, just where is that Akizuki-class?

>> No.12206686

>>12206665
Not going to happen.
They need to cater to the anime babbies and casuals.
Rank scaling and no HP regen is here to stay. Even compass trolling has been minimized with LoS mechanic.

>> No.12206688

>>12206686

They don't have to, the anime won't air this summer.

>> No.12206689

>>12206686
>to the anime babbies and casuals.
Who? It's not the Fall event.

>> No.12206702

>>12206580
So that new recon plane is Aichi E11A, designed to be launched from CAs and BBs to spot shellfire at night. So does this mean pre-emptive shelling at night or something?

>> No.12206710
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>>12206702
and all of an expected situation, Re has it equipped too..

>> No.12206719

>>12206710
Unless she's to get 5 slots, no.

>> No.12206726
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Is there a common fleet set up or is it usually situational like 1-5?

>> No.12206729

>>12206726
Whatever it takes to get to boss node.

>> No.12206730

>>12206719
Flying fish will inherit the special spotting ability.

>> No.12206737

>>12206726
4BB 2CV is the general 'blow shit up' composition that's heavy on the resources, but also commonly used to brute force maps.

4+ SS is subcheesing old maps.

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