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12163724 No.12163724 [Reply] [Original]

Did you realize that right now Touhou and Kancolle have been mainstream for roughly the same span of time?

>> No.12163728

>>12163724
How do you figure?

>> No.12163736

Did you mis-word your sentence? Touhou has been around and popular for a lot longer time than kanshit

>> No.12163748 [DELETED] 

I do not usually pay attention to whether or not something is "mainstream" as I am not a faggot.

>> No.12163765 [DELETED] 

>>12163724
are you a hipster?

>> No.12163925

kanker > 2hu

>> No.12163930

Touhou has been mainstream since 2008 dude. kancer has been popular for less than two years, and it's going to die soon anyway. There's no soul behind it, just money...

>> No.12163938

>>12163930
I can't wait to see your faces when kanker outlives 2hu.
2hu has been dead since Zun married.

>> No.12163946

>>12163938
only ironic shitposters and kancer nerds actually believe this

>> No.12163956 [DELETED] 
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I like both 2hu and boatbabes, but I like watching you guys argue about them even more.

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>>12163938
Lies.
Just look at this. Tell me Sukuna isnt one of the best 2hu designs to come out of ZUNs head since he got married

>> No.12164048
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>>12163956
I would feel the same, except that kancer will never have the diversity of characters that 2hu does. Boatshit is just boats, whereas 2hu has the entire Eastern folklore at its disposal. There is a clear winner here and it was decided before the game even started.

>> No.12164052

>>12164048
>muh youkai
Going with quantity over quality, eh?

>> No.12164070

>>12164052
I don't believe that applies to this situation. There are no limits in quality between either franchise.

>> No.12164111

>>12164052
Them shipgirls aren't honestly all that great. I used to play the game for a few months, but there weren't an awful lot of interesting girls to keep me going.

The ones I find interesting mostly don't get much attention, so that helped me get bored of the game.

>> No.12164183

Did you realize that 2hu is more geared towards stupid faggots than Kancolle?

>> No.12164204

>>12164183
So 2hu is geared towards you, great, what else is new?

>> No.12164230

>>12163724
>2hu has english translations

>boats do not

The winner is obvious.

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>>12164230
Didn't Commie translate the interface?

>touhou "translations"
>being a peasant
>2003

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>> No.12164244 [DELETED] 

>>12164243
I bet Payne's willing to sell me those panties for twice what they'd cost elsewhere.

>> No.12164247

>>12164243
But touhou has multiple animes.

>> No.12164252

>>12164052
I doubt these ships has more notable quality than 2hus, either.

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>>12164048
Is quantity really that important if characters get relegated to obscurity? This isn't in defense of Kankore, just a general thought.

At any rate, I don't care that much about the diversity of characters when since so few of them will be used more than once or even remembered by more than a handfull of people. It's not like either game's characters have all that much of a personality. ZUN needed a game to put his music in, he gave it some vague characters so he could move the game along with plot, it's not uncommon in video games. Kankore does the same, but it uses the characteristics of the ships as gimmicks for the girls. Fanon will always win out against the little canon there is anyway. That's the reason both these series are so popular. Fans can do whatever they want with the characters.

When I said I like both maybe I was being a bit dishonest. I've played both on a number of occasions, Touhou's an okay shmup and Kankore is pokemon with less direct control. I really couldn't say I have any special fondness for either. What I do like is the fan works that both get. I guess I'm just a big ol' secondary. The amount of fan work that Touhou gets is staggering, but the fact that for the longest time it was just Touhou was a shame. Seeing Kankore rise, even if just for a brief while as a potential rival is beautiful to me. I don't know if it will last, but I hope it does, for both series.

>> No.12164262

What I hate about Kancer is that the level of naval engineering and historical reference and war trivia isn't hardcore enough. All the folks liking it simply for the cute girls disgust me, and in turn, makes me disgusted at the game, when it could have been so much more.

>> No.12164276 [DELETED] 

>>12164262
I don't think most people are into Touhou for the Japanese mythology.

>> No.12164279

>>12164262
But I like the girls for what they are and don't care about the game.
Are you still disgusted by me?

>> No.12164287

>>12164276
How does 2hu have anything to do with what I'm saying? I don't even particularly like 2hu.

>>12164279
Yes. You're disgusting. They are warshipgirls and not girls for you to fawn over. Those girls are military weapons with honorable and not-so-honorable war deeds, to disregard that is to disregard their very beings.

>> No.12164337

>>12164287
But they are still girls. Why can't I just like them?

>> No.12164340

>>12164052
There are like 6 notable "original" characters from the kank rooster, nobody cares about the rest.

>> No.12164356

>>12164337
You can. In the game, as Admiral you can marry them and they will act like typical moe girls who want your penis.

>> No.12164357

>>12164340
Yeah I do

>> No.12164360

>>12164356
No wonder nerds flock to this game.

>> No.12164387

>>12164356
I don't want to marry them though. I just want to be friends.

>> No.12164399

What is Kanker?

>> No.12164400
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>>12164356
If they're girls why do I keep finding boys

>> No.12164415

>>12164230
>You have to pay to play 2hu.

>Boats is free to play.

The winner is obvious.

>> No.12164418

>>12164400
Artist who

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>>12164415

>Touhou
>Pay

>> No.12164429

>>12164418
What?

>> No.12164433

>>12164428
>Not supporting Zun
That's why Japan hate filthy Gaijins

>> No.12164436

>>12164400
Never even played kancolle, but I love those three boys on the right already.

>> No.12164437

>>12164428
thieves are not welcome in /jp/

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12164443

Oh look, it's this thread again.

>> No.12164447

>>12164429
What I meant to ask is;
Would you be so kind as to tell me who the artist of that intruiging image is?

>> No.12164448

>>12164433
it's "ZUN"

>> No.12164451

>>12164447
The Pixiv ID is right there in the filename. Are you retarded or something?

>> No.12164469

>>12164443
Another proof 2hus are just heartless jocks.
No wonder only normalfags dig them.

>> No.12164523

>>12164337
Of course you can still like them just because you find them cute or whatever. It's your view, you're free to do that. Just like those girls are free to hate you for doing that.

Those girls sacrificed their lives, gets busted and beaten up for their country, did miraculous deeds, served with honor and pride, and some turbonerd would just come along and disregard all that. The average nerd doesn't acknowledge nor respect what the shipgirls are, what they truly are.

You think they like being treated with disrespect like that? You think they'd just sit down and smile at you while you disregard their very being, everything that makes them themselves? They're crying. They're angry.

>>12164356
That was pretty bad. Those poor girls doesn't even have a choice to say no to the player.

>> No.12164531

>>12164523
>That was pretty bad. Those poor girls doesn't even have a choice to say no to the player.
They have the choice but they have no reason to say no.

>> No.12164540
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>>12164523
Because they're just game program duh

>> No.12164545

This thread amounts to a Superman vs Goku thread. Words won't sway those dedicated to their respective franchises, so the thread only serves as a trolling grounds.

Please stop posting in it.

>> No.12164552

>>12164545
I still enjoy few good posts in this thread.
I'm not even defending anything.

Also, what's with those deleted posts?

>> No.12164553

>>12164523
But I do not disregard them. I just like them as girls.
I don't want them to be different.

>> No.12164556

>>12164523
They don't exist to be respected

>> No.12164558

>>12164540
Which is my problem with the game. The game should've been programmed for a more hardcore audience, instead of this superficial moe schtick.

>>12164553
If you don't acknowledge it you're essentially disregarding it.

>> No.12164561

>>12164451
Hey now, don't be so mean.

>> No.12164568

>>12164558
But I do acknowledge it.
I know they are shipgirls and accept them for what they are.

>> No.12164576

>>12164568
OK good for you then. Most nerds playing/liking the game don't, though. Sorry for assuming you're one of them.

>> No.12164590

>>12164576
>Most nerds playing/liking the game don't, though.
What?

>> No.12164607

>>12164576
Japan nerds go on pilgrimages to Yokosuka Naval Yard because of this game. So much so, that the yard has turned into a machine of profit.

What are you even talking about?

>> No.12164625

>>12164607
And how many of those go because of the ships and not the girls? How many of those would've been interested in the first place if it was cute ships instead?

>> No.12164640

>>12164625
Do you realize plenty of them actually know their way around military shit?

>> No.12164661

>>12164640
Yeah, this. I have several Navy friends who are knee deep in Kantai Collection. I'm also military, but different branch. Basically a traitor to the world's greatest air force, on account of cute boats and all.

>> No.12164670

>>12164640
They don't make the biggest portion of the demographics, though. Even though they should be the biggest portion if it was up to me.

>> No.12165051

>>12164523
>Those poor girls doesn't even have a choice to say no to the player.
Not really. Some flat out refuse. Some ridicule you. Some pity you. Some acknowledge your feelings but don't share them.

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>>12164243

>> No.12165168

>>12165136
Oh, you know each other?

>> No.12166597

>>12164243
That j-list dude is a pretty cool guy, but I wish he had a moe personality fitting his avatar.

>> No.12166611

Danbooru is already deleting all Touhou fanart to make room for the increasing amound of Kancolle pics. You'd better save your favorites locally before they're lost forever.

>> No.12166614

This thread is amazing levels of stupid.

>> No.12166665
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>>12164428
I would bay them if the were on steem

>> No.12166750

>>12164230
People still need translations despite surrounding themselves with Japanese media for years and years?
I mean, after being spoonfed for so long shouldn't a feeling of inadequacy kick in eventually?

>> No.12166780

>>12166750
Of course but we are already used to that feeling

>> No.12167018

>tfw 2hu popular because of pirates

>> No.12167025

>>12167018
That's funny since I got into Kancolle because of that one pirate.

>> No.12170890

I honestly never was interest in Kancolle, never played it, and really haven't cared about it or the hype threads because it looked boring. So is there a reason I should start guys?

>> No.12170913

I dont get it, its just boats, fairly limited scope. They'll start adding non-boats stuff.

>> No.12170948

>>12167025
Pretty much none. I only started because some of my favorite artists did.

>> No.12170962

>>12170948
Was that meant for the post below it?

>> No.12170964

>>12170962
I have bad aim.

>> No.12170969

>>12170964
Don't worry. You still answered my question. Thank you.

>> No.12171040

>>12164048
>Boatshit is just boats, whereas 2hu has the entire Eastern folklore at its disposal.
>>12164052
>quantity
Kancolle has all the WW2 ships at their disposal. It's not just IJN ships.

>> No.12171043

>>12164247
>animes

>> No.12171047

>>12164400
>>12164436
>boys
Anons pls.

>> No.12171054

>>12164443
All she needs is a bucket.

>> No.12172747

>>12164243
>J-List
>Liked

どうして？

>> No.12172839

>>12166750
Yeah, but my laziness is a much stronger feeling

>> No.12173130

>>12171043
This isn't /a/, don't contribute meaningless posts.
>>12164243
>J-list
Oh gosh.
>>12163724
Touhou has had popular flashes since like 2006, and got big in the west like 4 years ago.

>> No.12173401

>>12163925
Music < Illustrations

2hu music is better, and for pictures there's always fanartists.
So 2hu wins for now.

>> No.12174581

>>12174468
Well shit.

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