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Old thread: >>11962842

Please discuss the Touhou games and STGs at large here.

Thank you to everyone who participated in last thread's challenge, and congratulations to our winner
>>11973139

Thread challenge: IN spell 222 Time Orbs.
Play spell 222 and try to collect as many time orbs as you can. Most time orbs wins.
Hopefully I'm not excluding too many players by picking the last last spell. My humblest apologies if this is the case.

Links:
Replay uploader for 6-13: http://replays.gensokyo.org/
Replay uploader for 14: http://threplays.appspot.com/replays
STG/Touhou stream aggregator: http://stgrillz.appspot.com/

>> No.12025172

>>12024417

>> No.12025184

>>12025172
wow. thanks

>> No.12025189

Two questions.
1. Does anyone have any problems with their keyboards freaking out when playing Touhou? I got a new mechanical keyboard, and it seems to get frozen only when enjoying danmaku.
2. Is it possible or worthwhile to use a controller to play Touhou?

>> No.12025195

>>12025189
1. some, see if your keyboard has driver updates.
2. Most of the time, no. Japanese players like the Saturn pad, and Arcade sticks are pretty good, but most Dpads won't be as precise as a keyboard.

>> No.12025207

I also have a question about keyboards. I use Red Cherry MX, is it considered bad for STG games?

>> No.12025211

>>12025207
I thought those were... fucking great for these games?

>> No.12025214

>>12025211
I wasn't sure, only tried Blue and Red switches so far.

>> No.12025228

>>12025214
Blues are pretty shitty for STGs. Reds are really good though.

>> No.12025238

>>12025150
I've been struggling to get a 1cc hard on Mystic Square - the first three levels aren't too problematic, but the fourth level takes so much out of me that I usually screw up to the bosses more than I'd like. By the time I get through stage 5 I simply don't have enough bombs to survive the bossfight. Should I ditch Mima and try another character for this, or just practise the fight with savescumming or something?

>> No.12025268 [DELETED] 

any tips for a newcomer to the touhou games?

>> No.12025275

>>12025268
Hold shift for focused movement and best way to improve is copying others.

>> No.12025459

>>12025238
How much have you been trying?

>> No.12025710

>>12025189
When I play STGs The shift or Z keys release themselves automagically and I have to press again.

>> No.12027462

>>12025150
Anyone here playing in that PoFV tournament?

>> No.12027551

>>12027462
Yes, a couple of people.

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>>12025150
What a Touhou game is that in OPs picture?

>> No.12027608

>>12027594
東方幕華祭
Chinese fan-made 2hu game that does better than ZUN himself did with DDC.

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>>12027608
Holy shit! This looking really amazing!
But why is Rumias design complete different?! First I was think it is a original character.

>> No.12027678

>>12027676
She is an original character. Looks really cute though.

>> No.12027875
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12027875

Anyone here ever play Patriot Dark? It is pretty fun.

>> No.12028002

>>12027462
i forgot it, wouldn't have time in between the week anyway

>> No.12028167
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12028167

Thread challenge: 5854 time orbs total. Boy was that ever fun and frustrating at the same time. Spent a good hour doing this over and over again.

Glad to see this thread challenge was finally made, I love the last words, especially Yukari's, it's so pretty.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=32750

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>> No.12029159

>>12028995
That reminds me, I'm behind on my tournament matches already. When I have time tonight I need to get some matches done.

>> No.12029444

Blog entry #387: Instead of looking for a job, I 1cced PCB. The resulting feeling of satisfaction is soured by falseness, artificiality.

>> No.12029556 [DELETED] 

>>12029444
I just found a job.

It's checking your trips.

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Ehehe.

>> No.12031184

>>12030598
Well, at least you only lost one life.

>> No.12031219

>>12027875
I played it a long while ago.
All I really remember is that it used Ketsui's music.

>> No.12032162

>>12027551
Oh, that's interesting. I didn't know anyone from /jp/ had entered that. I wonder who in particular is from /jp/.

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>> No.12033467

>>12032301
sugeeeeeeee

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>>12032301
>you will never achieve a flawless run

>> No.12034634

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=32800

This was my first try with my new groundbreaking strategies that you subhumans would NEVER understand.

>> No.12034645 [DELETED] 

>>12033472
Please do not misuse the quoting function.

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>>12034645
>He who abuse the quoting feature, shall be abused in return.

>> No.12034656

>>12034634
Holy shit, great potential in this run but I have no idea what the fuck just happened

>> No.12034677

>>12034634

Really great run anon, close to 1cc! I can't get past Patchouli on Hard because I always get clipped by her non-directional laser patterns ;_;

>> No.12034820

So who do you think the best Western players are? MaZe?

>> No.12034826

>>12033472

Are you french ? It looks a lot like the works of "Boulet" !

>> No.12035140

>>12034820
Not this shit again.

>> No.12035228

Hold on! This thread is heading towards the wrong direction in dangerous speed!

A warm reminder to everyone that the /jp/ STG thread is a Bully free zone™, a venerable label we have worked very hard for. It would be sad to lose it due to a petty argument, so calm down, shall we.

>> No.12035440

>>12034820
We've already established this. MaZe is without a doubt the best Western player, as he has proven time and time again.

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>>12034820
>knowing the names of other players
2normal4me

>> No.12035485

>>12035481
agreed, we're not on some faggot web forum

>> No.12035710

>>12035481
Please don't misuse the quotation function.

Your new is showing if you don't know MaZe. He used to always post here.

>> No.12035712

>>12035485
right, totally, sure thing bro

>> No.12035828

>>12034820
i will nominate cactu and sakurei. i would also mention some retired veteran players, but they dont really play anymore so they are irrelevant

>> No.12035868

>>12034826
Yeah, that's his Christmas calendar.

>> No.12035982

>>12035710
I've been frequently on /jp/ since 2010 and i've never heard about your best namefriend. If your best namefriend only lived within these STG-forum-threads it's clear because i don't visit them often for obvious reasons.

>> No.12036385

Take your circle jerking somewhere else previous thread went to shit thanks to it.

>> No.12036391

>>12025150
The shmup in this picture is complete shit.
Stage 1 and 2, and to a lesser extent, 3, started off quite good. A lot of random dodging which is good. Stage 4 and onwards however are awful. Absolutely fucking awful. Nothing but streaming of the worst kind and memo shit as far as the eye can see, and gimmicks everywhere.

>> No.12036405

>>12036391
So it's just like Touhou.

>> No.12036449

>>12036391
>gimmicks everywhere
Like? I noticed next to none. The only thing I can think of would be the momentarily disappearing bullets on some later attacks, which were to give a puzzle-like feeling to the portion of the game. I don't personally like it either, but I'll take that over reversed controls on spell cards I'm supposed to speedkill for millions of points.
>memo shit
I agree on most boss attacks requiring you to figure them out before being captureable. But it was quite apparent that most attacks weren't completely static, but had some random elements in them. Which never quite made them a complete pushover. I won't adress the streaming, as the game is based on a chaining mechanic and enemy spawns go around the screen, with stage routes often being something else than pure streaming, just in order to gain some resources from the item chains.

It does have some bullet visibility issues, glow issues, pacing issues and such, which I think are the most common problem with fan-made games. It's not the worst game in existence, though. I'm sad you didn't like it (and you don't have to), but some of your insults seemed rather unfair, or based on a completely personal opinion. Or maybe it was just the amount of swearing that made your post seem angrier than it actually is.

>> No.12036485

>>12036391
>streaming
>worst kind and memo shit
>gimmicks everywhere
Well, it is a 2hu game, after all.

>> No.12036524

>>12036449
>Like?

Time stopping from Sakuya, Slowdown from Remilia, Disappearing bullets from Sakuya.
While not memo, there are other things that are just idiotic, like Remilia's survival which would be fine if the lasers from the fucking big round bullet that follows you were actually visible half way into the spell card.

>I agree on most boss attacks requiring you to figure them out before being captureable

And that is the problem. Having some patterns require a bit of memorization is fine, but having 3/4 of each boss fight being more of a memory based puzzle instead of actually requiring dodging is awful. I like fast paced random dodging in which you need to move around a fair bit. After Cirno, most of the bosses required micro dodging. As I said though, the third stage wasn't that bad but Meiling did you use a few too many micro dodge spellcards for my liking.
Sakuya is a complete chore to fight though because of all the gimmicks she uses. Why didn't the creator give her patterns that were similar to her EoSD non spells? They are actually fun unlike her spellcards.

>It's not the worst game in existence, though

No it isn't. Far from it but it is still a massive disappointment for what started off so well.

Oh well I'll have to keep playing the touhou clones I usually play. They have abysmal stages that this game puts to shame, but its bosses tend to favour firing off random dodging patterns.

>> No.12036911

>>12034820

MaZe and Riz are probably the most skilled Western players, but T has the most achievemnts.

>> No.12036914

>>12036391
No Japanese superplayer playing this game so you can't be spoodfeeded, cry on and back to vanilla 2hu looser.

>> No.12036972

>>12036914
The fuck are you even talking about? Your broken English is laughable.
Are you trying to imply that the game is hard? Because it isn't at all. I beat the game on lunatic after a couple of tries. Now I'm just fucking about in stage practice pacifying stage 1-3.

>> No.12036989

>>12036972
I suggest you to read >>12035228

>> No.12037123

>>12036972
>>12036524
Hi MaZe. Post a replay please of your 1cc of this game please. Thank you.

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Opps.

>> No.12038447

Are there any other competitive based STG's like PoDD/PoFV/twinkle star sprites?

>> No.12039682

Are any of you scared of growing old?

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>>12039682
Yes.

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>> No.12040322

>>12040270
おめ

>> No.12040324

>>12040270
Congrats, nice score!

>> No.12041093
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I cleared lunatic for the first time today.

Perfect Cherry Blossom
4 continues used.

I know I'm bad, but I feel like I can do anything.

>> No.12041097

>>12041093
>You're bad
I cant even beat PCB on Normal, I'm just in these threads to see people that are good

>> No.12041102

>>12041097
Try playing Reimu A. Hold shift for focused movement. Practice deathbombing.

That's the secret to getting sort of good.

>> No.12041119

>>12041102
Reimu A in PCB? I thought the best was Sakuya A. The other ones I'm okay at, I'm just no good at 2hu no matter how much I practice.

>> No.12041150

>>12041119
I dunno man, the auto aim power made bosses and normal enemies a lot easier

>> No.12041187

>>12041150
But SakuyaA has a stronger homing shot.

>> No.12041230

>>12041187
Its quite a bit easier to hit things with Reimu A.

>> No.12041281

>>12041230
But Sakuya's is well enough where she only has trouble on Chen

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>>12041281
Well, whatever floats your boat.

>> No.12041303

>>12041093
>I cleared lunatic for the first time today.
congratu...
>continues
>player penalty
never mind

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Made some mistakes. I'm a bit unsure whether to pursue further improvements to the score or not.

>>12040270
Great score. Good job!

>> No.12041555

>>12041552
間もなくにもう一つ自己ベ更新やりましたか
おめでたーっす( ^ω^)

>> No.12041684

>>12038447
Change Air Blade, the best VS-STG

>> No.12041687

>>>/vr/1530502
superiour shmup players over here

why don't you try hard, /jp/?

>> No.12041797

>>12041687
This is /jp/. We take it easy.

>> No.12041875

trying clear extra stage in EoSD. love maze is blowing me out. I'd love some advice.

>> No.12042053

>>12041875
With Reimu, you can just sit at the bottom and dodge through the small gaps.
Otherwise, two bombs or one death should clear it if you time it so that the invincibility runs out just when she stops shooting for a while when changing directions of her shots.

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I'm trying to clear DDC normal with Sakuya B. I get clipped often. Sakuya A required no practice to clear, but it's different with the other shot types.
I hate diagonal bullet patterns.

>> No.12042438

>>12042432
I hate lasers, something in my brain doesn't let me recognize them - i'm glad DDC isn't full of them like the other 2hu with Shou and the Muslim-hu.

>> No.12042484

>>12042438
I hate moving lasers that take time to form its hitboxes, like Kogasa's last spell in extra. I'm too slow for that one.

>> No.12044029

My third attempt at EosD on normal and I only just managed to get to patchy before running out of lives. Anyone here use flight sticks? I've got an old one I'm considering using, as my keyboard is killing my wrists.

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One day I'll learn the early stages. But for now, this is fine.

>> No.12045571

>>12044029
A flight stick would probably make it more difficult. Try and have a better posture.

>> No.12046085 [DELETED] 

pls strm!

>> No.12046086 [DELETED] 

pls strim

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yeah, pls strm!

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Good run, for those intersted, I'll upload the video later today. I'll hopefully PB with a clear next time. I'm happy

>> No.12046313

>>12045423
>>12046123
Congratulations!

>> No.12047070

>>12041093
>continues

lolyou at least you tried I guess

>>12044029
just use keyboard, literally best input method and input method doesn't matter for anything below scoring. take it easy.

>> No.12047102

>>12046123
Fuck off Sakurei.

>> No.12047128

>>12047102
That is not very nice. He got a good score, you should congratulate him for it no matter how you felt towards him.

Either that or just remain silent, these threads have seen enough hate.

>> No.12047131

>>12047070
>input method doesn't matter for anything below scoring.
What. If input method did matter for scoring, how come it didn't matter for other play? You also have to make tight dodges and swift circular movements in survival play.

>> No.12047318

http://pastebin.com/deNZ6S1q

>> No.12047727
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Can someone teach me how to clear EoSD? I can't seem to do it anymore... It's been half a year since I last cleared! ;_;

>> No.12047729

>>12047318
I still love this. Keep posting it.

What kills me is that, while the whole thing is true and obvious to anyone that matters, the entire post is motivated by his jealousy of the attention that some 2hu kids got on a forum from a bunch of idiots that he doesn't even like anyway.

>> No.12047753

>>12047727
If you did this run on stream, please highlight it.

>> No.12047760

>>12047753
I didn't do it live but I did watch the replay on stream if you want to watch that. I highlighted it on my channel.

>> No.12047777

Whats up with these attempts to provoke circlejerking these last few threads?

>> No.12047782

>>12047777
Sorry.

>> No.12047789

Man DDP left such a bad taste I have not touched a stg in 4 weeks.

>> No.12047807 [DELETED] 

>>12047777
Nice quads.

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>>12047318
What's so wrong about having fun? With the way I'm interpreting his words, superplayers are superior to those who simply play games for fun. If he's more talking in a broader sense, i.e. those who are passionate about something are superior to those who do things casually, then I guess I'll give it to him that being passionate about something certainly feels good. With the way he worded it though, it basically sounded like "go full shmup or go home", which I don't like. There's nothing wrong with someone else playing a game casually even though you play seriously. The more I read, the more elitist he sounded.

>> No.12048388

>>12048328
I find it hard to take seriously someone who thinks shmups are literally a way of life. I do agree with him that treating what you truly are interested in as a mere hobby will end up crippling your skills, though.

>> No.12048484

>>12048328
welcome to gus

>> No.12048522

>>12047318
>First, there are the collectors, the personfications of the phrase "You can't suck at a poster."

What is that suppose to mean? I've never heard that phrase before.

>>12048484
It sounds like something Icycalm would write.

>> No.12049088

>>12048522
You couldn't be any farther from the truth.
http://imgur.com/a/q6BUr

>> No.12049473

>>12048522

Icycalm and gus are the opposing extremes, like Nazis and commies. Both are fucking insane.

>> No.12049633

>>12049473
But, as you can see, the gus side leads only to despair.
Imagine playing a touhou game with one life, no extends, no continues, and no practice modes whatsoever. There is only one difficulty setting. There are no items of any kind: grazing raises your shot power (which constantly decreases), you deal extra damage by getting up close, and you start with a full deck of spellcards that cannot be increased. Bombs also deal significantly less damage against bosses. Enemy health is significantly increased so you must graze like hell or you will become overwhelmed and lose.

>> No.12051201

Stupid question, but I'm going to toss it out here because the thread does say STG...


Is there any particular pattern to the way Jamestown's scrap pickup thingies (the golden shit that you collect to fill the Vaunt meter) are generated, or is it just some loose relationship of greater point worth = more scrap released?

>> No.12051218

>>12049088
I hope this isn't an actual book.

>> No.12051237

>>12051218
INSOMNIA ART THEORY SERIES

VIDEOGAME CULTURE: VOLUME 1

© Alex Kierkegaard 2007 - 2012
Cover Image: Integrated Circuit © Seth Richards

All rights reserved. No part of this book may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system or transmitted by any means, electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or otherwise, without prior written permission from the publisher.

Published by Insomnia
http://culture.vg

ISBN:[redacted]

Printed in Greece

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>>12051237

>> No.12051245

>>12051237
You know what's even more autistic than scoring?
Writing a book about it

>> No.12051433

>>12051245
Icycalm only talks about scoring in that specific chapter though. Most of the book are really just updated versions of his old insomnia.ac essays.

>> No.12051449

Are there really human beings alive who will pay to read what Icycalm has to say?

>> No.12051456

>>12051433
A shame, he could've spent an entire book channeling Time Cube.

I swear between now and the last time I ever had the misfortune of remembering that person exists he's gone absolute batshit bonkers.

>> No.12051469

I wish icy would pay back the debts.

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>>12051449
I'm pretty sure most of the people who post on Icy's forum are contributors that got their accounts for free. I miss the days when it wasn't hidden behind a paywall.

>> No.12051558

daily reminder that backloggery is sony run

i know because it gave me a sony.com cookie on the first days of the site

>> No.12051592

Trying to one-life eosd extra with Reimu a. Is there a trick to getting through royal flare and philosopher's stone or is it pure dodging?

>> No.12052000

>>12051592
Royal Flare is completely static and is easy memo. Watch any good replay.

>> No.12052010 [DELETED] 

>>12047777
NICE quads

>> No.12052069

>>12051456
Does anyone even like him at this point?

>> No.12052073

>>12052069
Well I kinda like him more now because of how unintentionally hilarious his insanity comes off as.

He's gone from shock jock with the barest shred of a point to I can't even fucking tell if he's been taking us for a ride all this time or what.

You know what they say about trainwrecks? It's like that. There's a horrific majesty in witnessing it.

>> No.12052074

>>12051456
You haven't seen anything yet.
http://orgyofthewill.net/

>> No.12052077

>>12052074
Nah I've already got that on bookmark, hence the whole "channeling Time Cube" throwaway.

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>>12047727
I did it!

>> No.12052136

>>12052074
dat html

>>12052117
Congratulations!

>> No.12052154

>>12052074
> Misogyny, from Greek misos (μῖσος, hatred) and gynē (γυνή, woman), means "hatred of women". The idea here is that, because I call things as I see them, and recognize the fact that women are, on the whole, less intelligent than men, THAT I HATE THEM. This is the kind of inference that only sub-humans would make: i.e. one that DOES NOT MAKE ANY FUCKING SENSE. For there are billions of life-forms in the universe which, on the whole, are less intelligent than men in general, and me in particular, but from this fact it in no way follows that I hate them. Take my dog, for example. Does the fact that I realize he is much less intelligent than me mean that I hate him? Am I a "miscaninist" because I say that dogs are stupider than men? Am I not allowed then to love anything that is stupider than me? Is it necessary that I place everything I love on an equal basis with myself -- even if all signs point to the fact that they aren't?
I miss the days when Icy's forums were public.

>> No.12052171

I'm trying to master IN but I absolutely suck at this game.

Any tips and tricks? I've only been playing for a couple of days, and I've been switching between 6, 8, and 13. I like 8 by far the most, so I guess I'll try to beat that without using any continues first.

The farthest I got on normal was about half-way through Reisen(I used all my continues+bombs, I wanted to get as far as possible to be able to use the practice mode)

I can get past Wriggle/Mystia without losing any lives(Entirely luck based, I always get hit by ONE stray bullet), but Keine always makes me lose 2-3 for some reason. I have a different problem with Keine every time--I never die to the same spellcard with her.

Then Marisa just completely bum rapes me; her spellcards seem easier than her normal danmaku

Any tips to get better fast besides spam-playing the game? I've been reading about streaming and crossover and all, as well as deathbomb.

>> No.12052193

>>12052154

I think he was arrested or died or something recently. It's been a week since he's posted anything on either of his sites. And people have been posting really stupid shit which he usually responds to.

>> No.12052198

>>12052193
He has gone weeks at a time without posting before.

>> No.12052204

I am trying to get a yuyuko themed gift for my friend

her nine inch figure is good , or is it? I was thinking of getting that or the plush

Also liking yuyuko does he have shit taste

>> No.12052206

>>12052204
Wrong thread, but his taste is fine. As for the figure, it might be annoying to find for a decent price.

>> No.12052208

>>12052206

sorry, this was my first post on /jp/

this is my second, and thank you for telling me

I just wanted to know how good the figure was but i will find the appropriate thread

>> No.12052484

>>12052193
>>12052198
I've seen his name pop up in a few PUA and manosphere blogs such as Good Looking Loser and KrauserPUA.

>> No.12052511

>>12052117
Nice job!

>> No.12052577

Could any kind anon lay out the pros and cons of stick, pad, and keyboard in terms of STGs?

>> No.12052587

>>12052577
http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15853.30.html

I think reply #40 got it pretty well.

>> No.12052605

>>12052577
A pad is just generally clunky because of how STGs innate mechanics work. Thumbsticks deadzone makes moving just clunky. It takes more time to tap in directions, and there's not a whole lot of control you get with them compared to a stick or keyboard. You also don't have all your fingers resting on each individual action you can do (bomb, hyper etc). I have a 360 so using the d-pad is out of the question (because 360 d-pads are all horrible), so I can't answer on how fluid that is.

I would say arcade sticks and keyboards are equal to eachother (as long as the stick doesn't have a big deadzone). I don't think either is better than eachother mechanically, but using an arcade stick (for me) feels nicer. Though it takes some time getting used to after using the arrow keys for movement a long while.

>> No.12052651
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12052651

how do we dodge bullets?

>> No.12052676

>>12052651
Go left, then right. DO NOT go right, then left.

>> No.12052997

Has anyone switched from keyboard to arcade stick? I plan on doing so and I wanted to hear some opinions from people who've done this before.

>> No.12053155

>>12052577
If you're not talented, you'll be shit at STGs regardless of which input method you use. There are superplayers that do way better with a "clunky" pad than any keyboard/stick user.

>> No.12053189

>>12053155
>>12047318

>> No.12053190
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12053190

I'm that same anon who was stuck at super ego before, if anyone remembers. It's been a while and I managed to clear all the extra bosses, including Fairy Wars Marisa and pic related. Yay for persistence.

>> No.12053374

>>12052997
Nothing changes.

>> No.12053421

>>12052997
you start out shit for a few hours and then you're back to the same level you were on keyboard. I have multiple sticks and I still really like playing on pads and keyboards instead.

I do like my newer generation Japanese silver dualshock2 I got when I imported my Japanese PS2, the d-pad feels a lot better than my USA transparent blue d-pad. The only problem is that I can feel it becoming more loose, it's slowly wearing down after two years of playing with it. ;_;

>> No.12053443

>>12053190
Congratulations!

>> No.12053577
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I wish I was better at touhou

>> No.12053581

>>12052484
frankly i'm surprised he hasn't posted here yet. he tends to pop up at any mention of his name.

>> No.12053592

>>12053577
(´・ω・`)

>> No.12053796
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12053796

Probably not as great as all the other achievements in this thread, but I finally got my first perfect clear.

I think I'll fill up my Miko folder to celebrate.

>> No.12053884

>>12052997
For me the switch was pretty great. imo keyboards lack the directional feedback necessary for dodging bullets intuitively without looking at your character. Switching back to keyboard after stick makes me want to quit shmups out of frustration.

Most people can't tell the difference, though.

>> No.12053935

This thread has had some pretty good scores, I'm proud, /jp/!

>> No.12054251

I remember being able to play Mushihime-Sama Futari Black Label in MAME, but I cannot for the life of me work out how.

Is anyone aware of the black magic required?

>> No.12054438
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12054438

Oh yeah motherfuckers.

Get on my level.

>> No.12054446 [DELETED] 

>>12035828
Is this the same cactu who needs to use 2 lives and all his bombs to get past Stage3 Meiling?

>> No.12054450

>>12054446
Dying intentionally for score is completely different than dying from running into a bullet because you can't dodge. I don't know if your post is supposed to be attention garnering or what, but that's a pretty silly remark to make.

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>>12053796
>>12054438
Congratulations!

>> No.12054819

does grazing help you survive or is it done only for score?

>> No.12054825

>>12054438
>A person with nothing+++++++++
You're a dick, ZUN.

>> No.12054832

>>12054819
Mostly for score, but getting good at it can get you out of a tight spot or two.

>> No.12054886

>>12054819

The only game in which I think knowing how to graze will help on survival is SA.

Since bombs are rechargable and there are lots of bullets on screen you could graze during the stages, fill the comunication meter and vacuum the power items and, that way, spam bomb more easily.

>> No.12055054

>>12054450
Those deaths were obviously unintentional because he couldn't dodge the pattern. He probably thinks there is a safespot for the first spell, haha. Meiling is so easy, how can you even nominate him to be a "good" player? I can perfect her and I don't even get a mention. Meanwhile this guy needs to use more than 1 bomb for the easy nonspells! Makes me laugh.

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>>12055054
Crivens, you are just unbelievably smug.

>> No.12055076

>>12055063
>Crivens
>Reaction picture

>> No.12055202

>>12055054
Stop this shit.

>> No.12055418

>>12055054
I'm not cac2, but I die on purpose so I seem like I'm bad to the common person. What they don't know is that I'm actually a part of the secret underground scoreplaying community, I just can't show my full potential until we're ready to compete in a tournament.

I learned about this trick following news about SOF-WTN, he intentionally died as early as 1-3 and blamed it on a lack of sleep. He tried as hard as possible to make it seem like it was an accident, but the truth is, he didn't want anybody from the west returning with his super secret scoring techniques. He doesn't want any opposing clans to be able to surpass him until they've reached the full potential of the game.

>> No.12055493

>>12055418
Which is why WTN is playing dodonpachi in two weeks at stunfest?

>> No.12056299

>>12055418
>I learned about this trick following news about SOF-WTN, he intentionally died as early as 1-3 and blamed it on a lack of sleep. He tried as hard as possible to make it seem like it was an acciden

You know I think Futobishi actually did that in his Progear run.

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I have no idea how do the homing amulets work.

>> No.12058260

>>12057799
Holy crap dat ZUN art

>> No.12058313

>>12058260
Look at Reimu's face.
No nose.
Line nose.
Nostrils.

>> No.12058324

>>12058313
thats marisa

>> No.12058576

Who else agrees the scoring system in SA is unbalanced?
Mainly feels like the spellcards lack in value and the lower difficulties feel less rewarding in regards to starting point value.

>> No.12058709
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> doing a Phantasm run on Perfect Cherry Blossom
> eventually hit the spellcard on Yukari called Boundary of Life and Death that compared to everything else was always easy, so decided to see if there was anything else to it
> at 30 seconds left all hell breaks loose

>> No.12059025

>>12058709
>at 30 seconds left
>shows and image that clearly has 48 seconds left
Also what do you mean, it was always easy compared to everything else ? She has much easier spell cards even if you don't try timing it out.

>> No.12059111

>>12059025
The screenshots not mine I just remember it being at 30 seconds
For me that one was always easiest simply because I rushed through it and didn't just let it run its course

>> No.12059135

>>12059111
It's based off her health though, not the time passed. That's why there's timeout protection. You would still have faced the full waves, I think the only thing that changes is that the fast butterfly bullets are aimed when you time it out.

>> No.12059147

>>12059135
>I think the only thing that changes is that the fast butterfly bullets are aimed when you time it out.
I'm pretty sure the velocity of all the bullets increases as well. This is actually a significant problem when scoring in Extra, since the increased speed means less bullets are present on the screen to cancel.

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My stage 4 improvement from 4.3.2013 on the Stage 4 scoring challenge on these threads compared to this date. Later score would be 13.5M if I captured the two spellcards I failed, which were Water elf and Mercury poison.

>> No.12059602

I can't beat Keine in IN without dying on normal. Is it standard to be this bad when you first start playing?

>> No.12059607

>>12059602
Yes. Play more and you'll stop doing that.

>> No.12059666

>>12059602
Touhou games rely heavily on experience. Keep playing and don't take extended brakes. I didn't play touhou for 18 months once and I went from being able to beat froggy and Ran to not being able to 1CC PCB or IN.

>> No.12059717

I reuploaded this. You can have it too.http://www.mediafire.com/download/wlx9l1s6ut4igx6/kouma_3D_ver0.62.7z

>> No.12059915

For getting better at STGs, is it better to play a single part of a single game until you learn it, or is it better to play multiple games?

>> No.12059933

>>12059915
Don't continue.
Like, ever.

>> No.12059944

>>12059933
I don't continue, but should I practice a single game or a bunch?

>> No.12059945

>>12059915
If you're just starting out it's probably best to pick a few games and play through them to get a feel for their play styles. Credit feeding to unlock practice stages or just to play through the game is fine, just realize when you're in way over your head skill-wise. You don't learn much if you're just dying constantly.

If you're serious about learning one game you'll usually break it down into stage by stage chunks until you can do a consistent route through it.

>> No.12059947

>>12059915
Play single parts of multiple games until you learn them.

>> No.12060010

>>12059933
Problem with this is that you over-familiarize yourself with the easy shit and once you clear a difficult section you fuck up because you don't know what comes after.

>> No.12060045

>>12059915
Play multiple games until you find one you really, really like and stick with that one. Focusing on one game at a time is the only way to build up a high degree of familiarity and skill with it. Once you reach the point where you're satisfied with that game(whether it be a 1cc, a good score or whatever) then you look for another.

Of course you could probably learn multiple Touhou games if you wanted to since most of them have a very similar feel.

>> No.12060188

>>12059915
If you want to get better at STGs, you should play STGs. If you want to get better at a single part of a single game, you should play that single part of that single game.

>>12059933
This is good advice if you're playing at an arcade, but bad otherwise. There is no reason to not use continues unless the game is so beyond your skill level that it would be a waste of time to try the later portions of the game.

>> No.12060508

>>12059915
Read Sun Tzu's Art of War.

>> No.12060508,1 [INTERNAL] 

A report feature has been added to stgrillz in order to remove unwanted streamers from the site.

>> No.12062933

I just came up with an interesting little challenge, pacifying Miko's last spellcard in TD while remaining on the left or right half of the screen at all times (no sitting in the middle in other words). I'm having quite a bit of fun doing this, hard as shit even on normal.

I feel like that spellcard would be more interesting if separate bullets were spawned from Miko that may end up forcing you to move away from the middle. Or something like that. And also make it so she gains invisibility during bombs. I fucking hate seeing that spellcard get bomb-rushed. I feel like this spellcard has a lot of potential but ends up being too easy for a last spellcard.

>>12060188
I choose to not continue simply because it's more exciting when I reach parts of the game that I don't have much experience with (or none at all), feels nice and new. I know it's not at all a practical method of getting better at the game, but I think it's fun.

>> No.12063830

>>12062933
Took me around five tries to get into the timeout phase, which killed me off right away. It could be possible, especially if the transition to the phase was handled better. I'm not going to bother, though.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=32996

>> No.12064361

pew pew pew

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Wasn't sure whether I should post it, but I was encourages to do so. My first all spellcard capture Kaguya, but I died on the 2nd non because I'm dumb. I think stage 2 was okay. The rest of the run was bad. I started crying during Reisen for failing 3 easy spells. Was tempted to reset. I should work on not being so shit at cancelling everything. Stage 4 was really gross, even if survival was good there.

>> No.12064672

Can I discuss the fighting games here?

Why is Hopeless Masquerade not popular? It is fun (I never have played online though) and the game mechanics are fun for the most part.

Why drag Hisoutensoku's corpse around?

>> No.12064752

>>12064362
All-spell Kaguya isn't very common on Normal, especially on a shot that requires unfocusing through most attacks. A good stage 2 in terms of scoring is also very difficult. No matter how bad your 4-5 were, you should feel good.

I'll look forward to hearing of your 4 billion scores soon.

>> No.12064772

>>12064672
>Can I discuss the fighting games here?
Traditionally they have had their own threads, but I'll reply to you anyway.

>Why is Hopeless Masquerade not popular?
The system is bad for versus netplay, since it promotes passive turtling and gathering popularity, which are not strategies most adequate fighting-game players are fond of. There are also some serious imbalance issues (Reimu).

Hisoutensoku, in contrast to HM, is fairly more traditional game without the same issues HM netplay has.

>> No.12064835

>>12064772
But the weather system is too random to take seriously. I like the popularity mechanics. Maybe if the make guard breaking easier?

I didn't see a fighting thread, sorry.

>> No.12064862

Guys, why do I suck at Touhou?

I've only been playing for around 6 months, but since I began I don't think I've improved at all. I started off with IN (I still can't clear it ;-;) and then I played PCB, EoSD and MoF. In PCB, on normal I couldn't get past stage 4 without having to use a continue.
Should I just stop playing because I suck? I enjoy it, but it feels like I'm never going to get better.

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>>12064862
be aware of your resources. See if you can manage to get past easier sections without bombs, the rest you bomb out of the way. SA for example gives you at least 40 bombs during the whole run.

>> No.12064875

>>12064871
Thank you, anon. Any advice is greatly appreciated.

>> No.12064876

>>12064862

I'm pretty new too. All I did was do everyone's spell cards over and over and over until I nail them. I 1cc'd IN with no bombs last week and that was a awesome feeling.

>> No.12064880

>>12064862
>continue
There's your problem. You probably lose lives with bombs in stock, too. If you think you have even a one percent chance of getting hit, bomb. Use Reimu.

Touhou games are incredibly easy to clear. If you have enough lives after finishing stage three or four, you can bomb your way past everything for a guaranteed clear.

>> No.12064888

>>12064876
>>12064880
Thanks, anons.

>> No.12064911

>>12064880

Why do you say for him to use Reimu? Not criticizing, I'm just wondering.

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12064937

found this in akihabara
not that it's rare or anything but still pretty cool

>> No.12064971

>>12064911
Slower speed for easier micrododging; homing amulets for easier stages and more horizontal freedom during bosses.

>> No.12064977

>>12064937
For 1k yen it is.

>> No.12064979

>>12064937
what is that, about 10 USD?

>> No.12064981

>>12064977
sarcasm? eh?

>>12064979
yeah pretty much
they had "all" the touhous

>> No.12064988

>>12064977
That's a normal price

>> No.12065497

>>12064981
How much did 12.3 and 9 cost?

>> No.12065516

>>12065497
all were around 1k-2k iirc

>> No.12065521

>>12065516
Does that include the pc-98 games?

>> No.12065542

>>12065521
they didn't have those, only the modern ones

>> No.12065662

>>12065521
The PC-98 games cost a fortune.

>> No.12066747

>>12025150
God, this game is so boring. Just to practice one spell on stage 4 I have to go through the most boring, easy mode stage ever. It doesn't even have good music to make it at least somewhat bearable. Actually, after stage 3 the music quality plummets almost as much as the games quality in general.
The guy who did this should have stuck with the same music style he used in the first 3 stages.

Like seriously, here's everything that went wrong in stages 4, 5 and 6.

The game becomes less about raw dodging and more about gimmicky attacks that will kill you outright every single time unless you learn how they work. Put short, memoshit. Having a few memo attacks scattered around is fine, but the problem arises when a boss has 3/4 of its attack pool consisting of these types of attacks.
There was hardly any of this in stage 1-3. Stage 1-3 had dodging. Not very hard dodging but still, hard enough for those stages. I expected that trend to cross over into the later stages.

As I said before, the music. I can't think of a single track I like after stage 3, which is quite funny considering I like EVERY track before stage 4.

Stage 4 boss sucks. Her nons are easy and memoable. No actual dodging required.
Her first, third and fifth spells are easy. Her fourth is probably easy too since I think I've figured it out now but I'll need to practice it a little bit more.
Her second spell though is ridiculous, and I know how it's supposed to be done too. It's a prime example of a poorly designed spell card.

Sakuya isn't fun to fight at all. All of her attacks rely on gimmicks. I haven't even bothered practicing against her since I can think of much better ways to spend my time than playing that boring stage and learning her gimmicky attacks.

Remilia is an insult to her EoSD version. All of the pure dodging spells she has are gone. Now replaced by the worst thing ever, Lasers.
Lasers are shit. They're not at all fun to dodge, and that's what 90% of her attacks have become.

>> No.12066820

>>12066747
You seem upset.

>> No.12066865

>>12066820
I am upset. A potentially good game turned out to be shit.

>> No.12066962

>>12066747

>I'm not good enough to capture a spell card
>It must be broken

So uh...you just start curtain fire shooting games a few weeks ago? Welcome to the club bro.

Once you become an experienced player, you might look back at this moment and laugh, along with the rest of us.

>> No.12066986

>>12066962
I've captured every spell in the game on lunatic.
Don't bother replying back you filthy secondary, you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

>> No.12067115

>>12066747
>Lasers are shit.
Take that back you inbred. More shmups should have lasers.

>> No.12067276

>>12067115
Lasers are shit and you're a pleb for liking them.

>> No.12067286

>>12067276
I'm not complete shit at shmups, unlike you.

>> No.12067298

>>12066986
>>12067286

Woah, since when did we get such cool pros?

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>>12067286
Show me your best achievement. I guarantee I'm much better than a pleb like you.

>>12067298
I've always been the best around here. If you weren't so new you would know that my skills are truly legendary.

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tfw can barely clear the easiest 2hu game on Lunatic

Why do I even bother living

>> No.12067379

>>12067326
>Show me your best achievement.
Being able to dodge lasers.

>> No.12067394

>>12067326
>Show me your best achievement

no focus SoEW normal clear

>> No.12067404

>>12067379
Yeah that's what I thought. You have no achievements to speak of. What a faggot.

>>12067394
...

>> No.12067446

>>12067404
>You have no achievements to speak of.
I didn't post a blank post. What is this "no achievements to speak of" thing you are talking about? Are you dyslexic or just projecting? I'm going to go with the latter. You shouldn't feel offended by your inability to play shooting games, though. Everyone in their early days find lasers hard to deal with and it's perfectly okay. A lot of entry level players try to hide the fact that they are shit at video games, that is also okay. Just cool down, practice more and come back after a couple more years and maybe try to act less like a juvenile.
Love.

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>>12067446
There's no need to project anything. Your post made it blatantly clear that you're shit at shmups.
Tell you what, since I'm in the mood to wreck somebody, let's play a game. See that game in OP's picture? Let's see if you can beat me on any of the first 4 stages, since stage 5 and 6 are so awful.
If you choose one of the first 3 stages, then we'll see who can get the least deaths while pacifying the stages, since they're so pathetically easy.
Or we can just see who can get through stage 4 without dying a single time.
I'll give you an hour after your next brain dead post to show me a replay. If you don't do that, then I'll know for sure that you're a faggot that more than likely hasn't even been able to clear a game on lunatic (I already know that is the case, but this way is a much more fun way of finding out for sure)

Since I know you it wouldn't be fair for an elite player like myself to pressure you into making a fool out of yourself, I've made a replay just for you, to give you a taster of how easy I find this game. I didn't want to finish the stage off or that would have no doubt scared you away.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/7vrhw8pwpl555q7/thmhj_08.rpy

Oh and I bomb the midboss spell because it's gimmicky shit. I don't waste time learning gimmicky shit.

>> No.12067543

>>12067510
>gimmicky shit
>he can't better himself through gimmicky shit

THIS ENTIRE GENRE IS FOUNDED ON GIMMICKY SHIT

>> No.12067559

>>12067543
I don't practice things that I don't find fun.
I just want to dodge random patterns all day. That's what shmups are all about. Not timestop, slowdown, and disappearing and reappearing bullets.

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>>12067510
>I already know that is the case
You're right. I didn't clear a game. I just cleared the whole library.
Take away some of that edge and maybe I'll bother with you.

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>>12067586
>295M

>> No.12067590

>>12067589
No, not at the time.

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>>12067586
There we go. Your time starts now. You've got an hour to show me that you aren't all talk.
Also I'm genuinely laughing that you think a vanilla Touhou run is something to brag about.
Post the replay that belongs to that screenshot. I want to laugh at how you scrape through the game by spamming bombs all day.

>> No.12067655

>>12067598
The replay was gone from a hard drive failure. I wasn't even bragging about it. You said I couldn't clear a game on Lunatic, I posted a screenshot of a Lunatic clear. And despite that you simply proceeded to backpedal into "lel then where's ur no bombs clear fgt"? If you showed a little more sportsmanship maybe I'd spend the next hour playing that little game with you, but nobody wants to compete against someone that bitter and toxic, sorry.

>> No.12067665

>>12067510
I'll never be as good as MaZe ojou-sama ;;

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>>12067655
>"lel then where's ur no bombs clear fgt"
Does this retard actually think he's on /v/ or something?

>If you showed a little more sportsmanship maybe I'd spend the next hour playing that little game with you, but nobody wants to compete against someone that bitter and toxic, sorry.

Aww what's the matter. Don't tell me I upset you by showing that I'm better than you. A replay of me streaming some easy bullet patterns in an easy stage turned you off that much?
Is that really all it took to shake you up?

You see, the difference here is, I can actually make a replay on the fly since I'm legitimately good at these games. Your little hard drive failure shouldn't be a problem. Go 1cc the game again.
The only way I can actually see that being a problem is if you couldn't 1cc the games on demand, and if that's the case then you have no business talking to me you secondary faggot.
Now either show me a replay of you doing anything of significance, or be quiet.
It's that simple.

I can't believe this guy actually tried to lecture me on lasers being good for shmups. That is hilarious.

>> No.12068147

>>/jp/image/EaVMdtsyVOKc90AmC8Oj0w
>>/jp/image/BhRdNxKjtc8GhNwYXxXVoA
>>/jp/image/lZUNgbPrXAx8sGTudi2h9w
>>/jp/image/TJL0LO6_d9Ghauk2hsNR4A
You're replying to the same avatarfagging troll again. Just report and ignore guys.

>>12067347
Nice. It's a bit sad that your score got hidden by a flood of arguing. IN Lunatic on Youmu isn't the easiest thing around, by the way. Stage 2 scares a lot of people away. But I'm sure you knew that already.

>> No.12068191

>>12068147
MaZe is hardly a troll. He's the best player in the West and he's been in these STG threads for years.
How didn't you know that?

>> No.12068202

>>12068191
He certainly needs to stop with the "this game had shitty lasers so no lasers should be allowed in STGs" shit then. Does he even play anything aside from Touhou?

>> No.12068208

>>12068202
Pretty sure he doesn't like any other STGs besides Touhou like games

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>>12068202
>He certainly needs to stop with the "this game had shitty lasers so no lasers should be allowed in STGs" shit then.

I don't need to stop with anything. Lasers are awful. Anybody that isn't terrible at shmups will tell you that they're bad.
Maybe one day you'll reach my level and you'll be able to see what I see, through the eyes of an expert instead of an amateur.
Who am I kidding, that will never happen.

>> No.12068258

>>12067347
Congratulations. I agree with >>12068147. It's a shame it was drowned in this arguing here. I'll look forward to seeing you improve further!

>> No.12068292

>>12068253
Why are lasers bad? Can you come up with anything more resembling of a real argument than "everybody knows they are bad :)"?

Go, explain why lasers do not work from a game design standpoint. Fuck, even Sakurei can do this.

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>>12068292
They're bad because they're bad. What more of an explanation do you need?
When have lasers ever been used well? Answer : Never.
I am so kind that I answered one of my own questions for you.

What's with this influx of new posters anyway. No wonder the post quality has significantly decreased.
People don't even realize lasers are shit.

>> No.12068309

>>12068292
Stop calling names, even if it is your own.

>> No.12068317

>>12068307
>When have lasers ever been used well?
Yuyuko's third spell, Yuyuko's first spell, Yuyuko's final spell, Kaguya's fourth spell, Keine's two final spells, Patchouli's nonspells, Eirin's finale, LW and first spell and Kaguya's second spell and Flandre's second spell. Some people also like the laser wheels in DFK's fifth stage. (I don't)

I'm not familiar enough with the photo games to comment on them, and I didn't like with how ZUN handled lasers in the later games.

I never liked the Chinese fangame too much either, but come on, you were better than this.

>> No.12068329

>>12068317
That is actually a nice list of cards that are example of how lasers should be used.
Really, it's curvy lasers that are bad. Stuff like Shou should be avoided, but all those examples were fine.

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>>12068317
Most of them attacks you mentioned aren't even the type of laser that I'm talking about. The ones you have mentioned are of the non directional laser type variety.
I'm talking about Yuugi/Shou type lasers. The ones that you actually have to dodge instead of the ones that are there to restrict your movement.
They're the lasers that I can't stand.

>> No.12068347

>>12068307
>When have lasers ever been used well?
Anything from UFO to TD, Sukuna's final non-spell, Crimzon Clover, Pink Sweets, Akai Katana.

>What more of an explanation do you need?
The one with some trace of brain in it. Like this post >>12068335. That's really fucking hard.

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>>12068347
>Anything from UFO to TD
No, not really. There's not a single note worthy laser attack that uses those types of lasers in those games.
Miko's second to last spellcard is good but that uses the non directional type lasers.

All of Ichirins laser attacks are easily the worst she has. Compare her midboss and 3rd spellcard to something as glorious as KKS and whatever the fuck her 2nd spellcard is called.
Shou as a whole is a terrible boss. Byakurens Magic Milky Way is also a poor spellcard.
All of Seiga's attacks that use lasers are bad too, especially when compared to her nons that use the jellybean + kunai combination.

>Sukuna's final non-spell
Is the only correct answer, and also is the only way those types of lasers would ever work in a fun way.

>The one with some trace of brain in it. Like this post >>12068335. That's really fucking hard.

It should have been obvious which lasers I was referring too, since that chinese game doesn't have any of the "acceptable" lasers.

>> No.12068375

>40 shitposts later
Now these are the threads I remember.
Global Rules 3. Do not post the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism, off-topic replies, uncalled for catchphrases, macro image replies, indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?"), anthropomorphic ("furry"), grotesque ("guro"), post number GETs ("dubs"), or loli/shota pornography. Keep /pol/ in /pol/. In essence: Don't shitpost.

>> No.12068399 [DELETED] 

>>12068309
As disappointing as it may be to you, I'm not >> 12068292 . I don't really care if people use my name in that way, but I suggest people stop assuming it's me talking shit about myself every time. I've seen this happen several times in these threads now, which is ridiculous considering how rarely I actually post in here.

>> No.12068401

>>12068367
>Miko's second to last spellcard is good
It's only good because of the amulets. Radiant Treasure Gun is a much harder version of it.

>Shou as a whole is a terrible boss
The second and third non-spells are all of the "dodge" type. Vajra is one of the few attacks that requires you to move away from the bottom half of the screen.

And let's not forget about Double Spoiler.

>> No.12068408

>>12068309
As disappointing as it may be to you, I'm not >>12068292 . I don't really care if people use my name in that way, but I suggest people stop assuming it's me talking shit about myself every time. I've seen this happen several times in these threads now, which is ridiculous considering how rarely I actually post in here.

>> No.12068421

>>12068401
>It's only good because of the amulets. Radiant Treasure Gun is a much harder version of it.

Radiant Treasure Gun is easier, and it has the bad lasers in it too. Just move to the right after the first wave and the spell becomes trivial.

>The second and third non-spells are all of the "dodge" type.
Doesn't matter. Despite me being all about attacks that actually require you to dodge shit and not memo them, I don't like them lasers, regardless of how they're used.

>Vajra is one of the few attacks that requires you to move away from the bottom half of the screen.

Vajra sucks ass. Worst spell in the game.

>> No.12068421,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>12068399
Did janny seriously only delete this post in the midst of all this shit?

>> No.12068421,2 [INTERNAL] 

What's going on here why is this thread moving so fast?

>> No.12068421,3 [INTERNAL] 

>>12068421,2
The troll from last year is flaming the thread again.
see: >>12068147

>> No.12068421,4 [INTERNAL] 

>>12068421,1
I reckon getting this stupid took you a lot of practice.

>> No.12068595

>One non shit spell from each game from Touhou 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 will be picked (When I say non shit, I mean some random non memoshit pure dodging spell). Then you and your opponent will go on stream (stgrillz) and use SpoilerAL to stop the spell timer. You'll both then simply dodge until one of you dies first. The one who survives the longest wins that round, and thus you will move onto the next games chosen spell. Rinse and repeat until all of the spells are done. The person who won the most, wins.

Did this ever happen?

>> No.12068606

>>12068595
If it did happen like that, it wouldn't have been very well executed. A better way would to have both people survive the spell card for a certain amount of time, and the one with the least deaths wins (and if they both haven't died yet, sudden death mode, where the first to die loses). Like that you don't need to worry about bad RNG screwing you over in the first few seconds, so less impact from luck.

>> No.12069157

for touhou, is it better to work your way up the difficulty or just stick and train with one?

>> No.12069165

>>12069157
I think it depends on the person. For me, I found it easier to work my way up the difficulty. But it's entirely dependent on how you like to do things.

>> No.12069254

>>12069157
Pick whichever difficulty is not too easy and not too hard, then move to another game when you clear it. Playing different games is better than playing the same one over and over, and starting a brand new game on lunatic is the most excitement you can get.

>> No.12069267

Too much retards as of lately trying shitting up these threads with their circle jerking.

>> No.12069328

Why does DDC have that godawful x + y axis flip?
The part where she flips just the x-axis is fine but flipping both is retarded.

>> No.12069356

>>12069328
The last spellcard? But it's the easiest one. Just vertical flip is so much harder.

>> No.12069871

>>12052171
sorry for the late response. Hopefully you've figured some things out since then, but here would be my general tips:
1. Stop switching between games until you can 1cc one of them (1 credit clear, i.e. beat it with no continues)
2. If you're not already playing on Lunatic, consider grinding on a higher difficulty. It will make the game on normal or whatever seem much slower, and you will not have as much of a problem running into random stray bullets.
3. Consistency can be grinded, and not just by spamming full runs. Try to capture each of Keine and Marisa's spellcards in spellcard practice about 10 times per day, or however much you have time to do. Eventually, you will have a better sense of which ones are hard and which ones are easy. Once you've identified the hard ones, you can up it to 5 caps in a row per day on the hard ones only or somethng like that. Or, if you find certain spellcards absolutely impossible (keine's 1st boss spell and marisa's 1st midboss spell come to mind, at least on lunatic), you can also just plan to bomb them. If you're consistent on the spellcards, you will definitely have enough resources to just bomb your way through the nonspells, which I would recommend on Marisa personally. Or, you can take the time to grind stage practice as well, which takes longer but also trains a different kind of consistency. Focused practice is the surest way to improve.

>> No.12069944

Why did this guy upload this Vampirish Night video?, didn't that get cancelled?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMEwrCSlERk

>> No.12070319

>>12069944
He will release it at reitaisai?

>> No.12070479

Anyone here use an arcade stick?
How am I supposed to hold the handle?
I feel so clumsy using it right now, have always used a keyboard.

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Thread challenge. I'll try to get a little more out of it.

>> No.12071199

what game of the series would you recommend someone new to the genre of bullet hell?

>> No.12071207

>>12071199
EoSD, PoFV, DS, UFO or DDC.

>> No.12071229

>>12070654
FINALLY, someone does the thread challenge. I don't know why more people haven't tried it, I thought it was super fun. but jesus christ you did a hell of a lot better than me (I was the first one to post results in this thread with 5824 time orbs). I'd like to see a replay of that, unless you manage to improve that score, either way. Maybe I'll give this another go, play more risky, though I dunno if I can do much better than my current score.

>>12067559
I like the gimmicks, they're fun and interesting, stirs things up a little. Bullet hell doesn't have to be purely about bullet dodging skill for it to be fun. I like how Seija's horizontal mirror spellcard forces you to reverse your left and right movements, but then the vertical mirror spellcard comes around shortly after and your muscles become conflicted. Happens to me anyway.

I wish Reisen's spellcards were made a bit more difficult though. Only one I have real difficulty with is her third one (feel free to go elitist on my ass). Her gimmick coulda been really fun if it were a bit harder, maybe with more randomness in it, because her first and last spellcards are super easy because of how static the reappearing bullets are. Second one is sorta hard and third one I just haven't committed myself enough to find an effective route to take yet.

Youmu's time slowing is great, allows for some intense tight bullet dodging. Sakuya's time stopping doesn't really change much to be honest. Woulda been neat if the knives just appeared instantly instead of showing the time stop process (an all-star touhou game did that)

>> No.12071230

>>12071207
only one of them

>> No.12071260

>>12071199
Are you experienced with any STGs or are you new to all of them?

>> No.12071266

>>12071260
>>12071260
I'm new to the genre of bullet hell itself, anon

most I've played is Gun Nac and Nemesis on the NES

>> No.12071278

>>12071266
Touhou is a reasonably slow shooter compared to others made by Treasure and Cave. I would recommend just picking a game and sticking with it until you can play it well, but if you really can't decide then start with Imperishable Night. It's easy enough that a beginner can enjoy it and has some playful bosses. PCB and ESOD are similar games but harder.

>> No.12071285

>>12071230
UFO. Standard player speed, deathbomb window and a visible hitbox. Resources are not handed out as generously, the player needs to learn to be mobile, read fast bullets and deal with additive blending and lasers.

>> No.12071305

>>12071278
>imperisable night
I think I'm going to start with this, thanks anon

>> No.12071325

>>12071305
There a shit ton of bullets on the screen but they move slow and the patterns are easier than most games. Imperishable Night actually looks pretty formidable if you took random screen shots of it.

>> No.12071330

>>12071325
Already downloading it, I hope I don't get too fucked, as I said I'm new to this kind of games, how is the music?

>> No.12071335

>>12071330
Some of the best in the series. MoF is the best followed by SA but IN is a good 3rd.

Just be consistent in you effort and watch your own replays. There is more to it than what you see while playing.

>> No.12071340

>>12071335
>watch your own replays
this is interesting, thanks for your help anon, maybe I'll come later to tell how it has been

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Having a perfect run be ruined by a slip-up on the same goddamn card thrice is really demoralizing.

On that note, does anyone know how to fix the replay desync when starting to watch on Stage 6 skipping through it on SA? Any kind of patch?

>> No.12071418

>>12071335
>>12071340
OKAY SO

I started the game and since I'm new of course I chose easy mode, but after seeing that perhaps it was too easy (but more than anything the pic of "eeeh? easy mode? only kids play on easy mode!") I decided to re start on normal and hey, I'm having a lot of fun

>> No.12071420

>>12071418
Good on you, dude. Try not to die to Stage 4 too much.

>> No.12071440

>>12071420
however, don't you guys get annoyed by the fact that you cannot multitask touhou?

>> No.12071467

>>12071415
Start from stage 5 and don't speed up the replay during the transition from stage 5 to 6.

>> No.12071469

>>12071440
What? No. When I play Touhou, I don't have a need to do anything else.

>> No.12071486

>>12071469
uh...
post on this thread?

yeah, you are right

>> No.12071569

>>12071440
But you can, I often multitask touhou. Just do something audio-only like a video on youtube that doesn't need you to really be watching it, or listen to audiobooks to improve you literary knowledge whilst you play.

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>>12071229
Yeah, this spell card is fun as HELL. I'm pretty timid for the last few waves, so there's some improvement to be done. I'll post a replay once (if) I can get 9k.

>> No.12071954

I want to upload my IN replay to royalflare but it says my replay version is too old (though it's 1.00d). What gives?

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Profound Danmaku Barrier or what? I thought it was boring, trial and error stuff. Cool looking, though.

Fantasy Heaven is way more fun

>> No.12072249

>>12071954
Did you use the English patch? IN's English patch is banned on Royalflare.

>> No.12072253

>>12072249
Why would they do that?

>> No.12072271

>>12072249
That's weird because replays from other games (also in english) upload just fine.

>> No.12072339

>>12072253
>>12072271
The patch apparently makes changes to the game or something, and the Japanese are rather strict about that.

What is the replay you wanted to upload, by the way. A good score?

>> No.12072358

>>12072339
Nah, I'm just trying to convince myself that someday I'll upload something of value there.

>> No.12072379

>>12072358
Better get rid of the English patch, then.

>> No.12072386

>>12072379
I'll try it, thanks. Might as well ditch vpatch while I'm at it.

>> No.12072438

>>12072386
Some players don't like uploading replays with the vpatch to Royalflare, while others just upload play with Vpatch to Royalflare. Legit replays with vpatch aren't removed from there.

It's more of a personal decision, whether to use that or not, while using the English patch is straight-out forbidden.

>> No.12072448

>>12072438
Yeah, I read somewhere on the wiki that one of the top scorers posted a vpatch replay and then took it down and even apologized on his blog.
Personally I'm not sure if it actually makes a difference for IN, I can tell it does for EoSD, but MoF feels the same either way.

>> No.12072565

>>12071569
Maybe I'm just shit at multitasking, but usually when I listen to a video while doing another thing, especially touhou which requires a lot of attention, the words just come in one ear and out the other. I prefer to put all of my attention into the task I'm doing, unless it's something relaxing like Minecraft.

>>12071833
Looking forward to seeing that. I'm gonna give this another spin too.

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>>12072565
The last wave is just evil. ;_;

>> No.12072852

>>12072448
EoSD and MoF aren't playable in fullscreen without vpatch.

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>>12072852

>> No.12072977

Trail attacks are the bane of my existence. What's your secret, /jp/?

>> No.12073007

>>12072977
I pacify a pattern forever in practice until I get better at it.

>> No.12073383

>>12071285
>Resources are not handed out as generously

What? UFO is extremely generous with resources.

>> No.12073465

>>12073383
You can earn a lot of resources in UFO, but generous would be giving them away like MoF or SA do.

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/jp/! i finally cleared EoSD extra fo a 1st time. moving up in the world.

>> No.12074866

>>12074819

Nice one.

>> No.12075747

>>12074819
Congratulations!

>> No.12076119 [DELETED] 

>>12074819
good job dude

>> No.12076173

>>12074866
epic one

>> No.12076213

>>12076212
new thread

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