STG/Touhou thread

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STG/Touhou thread Anonymous Wed Mar 12 22:03:13 2014 No.11962842 [Reply] [Original]

Old thread: >>11914222

Please discuss the Touhou games and STGs at large here.

Thank you to everyone who participated in last thread's challenge, and congratulations to everyone who achieved 1cc's.

Thread challenge: PCB Stage 6 CherryMax.
Try to clear stage 6 (in stage practice) with the highest CherryMax value. Any difficulty and shot type is allowed, but if you see someone post in a category you can play, it might be fun to try and one-up them.

If you find this challenge uninteresting, I recommend you work on unlocking all of the Last Word spells in IN, as the next thread challenge will probably involve these.

Links:
Replay uploader for 6-13: http://replays.gensokyo.org/
Replay uploader for 14: http://threplays.appspot.com/replays
STG/Touhou stream aggregator: http://stgrillz.appspot.com/

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 00:47:40 2014 No.11963087 Need some critiques on my replay. MOSTLY STAGE 4 I mean fuck dude, FUCK Stage 4 PCB http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=4096

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 01:01:10 2014 No.11963103 Which Toho game should I download?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 01:02:10 2014 No.11963105 Gauging interest for a score attack tourney. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1vPoh_Qi8ZJfyi2AVEl_ZW4y8LOh-cdL_M_Tys1GoAIE/viewform

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 01:03:55 2014 No.11963107 >>11963103 Start with 6/7

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 01:04:56 2014 No.11963111 >>11963105 By the way, what is the IRC

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 01:07:10 2014 No.11963118 >>11963107 There aren't that many Toho games idiot, there only up to 14 now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 01:14:40 2014 No.11963125 >>11963107 Ok I divided EoSD by PCB but now I am playing some fucked up weird shit so I don't know if I did it wrong

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 01:22:40 2014 No.11963137

>>11963087
I think you linked the wrong replay. Either that or you're a ghost of a long dead person. I'm going to assume that the run you want to be commented is the recent one in gensokyo.org. The one with four P's in the name field.

First of all, in PCB and many other Touhou games there is a feature that lets you collect all of the items on the screen automatically if you're at full power. It is activated by moving up to the top of the screen. Use it.
For the part with the yellow-and-green bullet-shooting fairies that drop a lot of items, I suggest moving and pocing more aggressively if you want the items. (either that or just bomb for the items, MarisaB's unfocused bomb is powerful) If don't, then you can just tap once whenever a fairy starts shooting, the stuff is aimed. The kedama after that portion, and after the midboss, are streaming. Practice and move higher on the screen. The second green-yellow section is static. Memorize where the fairies spawn, kill them and collect the items. The last four waves of large fairies are aimed, so you can just tap at the bottom if you want to be safe. I'd possibly bomb one of the waves for points. The death fairy is static. I can imagine the first nonspell being though for a beginner, however it should end within one bomb. Just bomb Lyrica's second nonspell for now. It's pseudo-streaming, but the screen is a mess and you can easily ram something so it's better to play safe. For the solo performance, pick Lunasa (black sister) by damaging her the most on the first spell. Just bomb the penultimate spell.

>FUCK Stage 4
I know PCB's fourth stage is beautiful, but we should still control our bodily urges. Shall we?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 01:23:55 2014 No.11963140 >>11963111 #kusoplay

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 01:32:40 2014 No.11963153 >>11963111 Rizon

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 01:34:55 2014 No.11963156 >>11963137 Weird. When it uploads it says "Your replay has been uploaded here" but when you click on here it brings you to a random page Anyway, here it is http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=32494

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 02:24:11 2014 No.11963255 File: 565 KB, 640x480, th431.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Lunatic ReimuB. 825,380 I can't play with this fever. Watching warmly until the SakuyaB results start rolling in.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 02:24:11 2014 No.11963257 >>11963137 >>11963156 replays.gensokyo has been buggy that like for years, it'll just give you some arbitrary link rather than yours. You just have to make sure what you get is actually the right one.

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 02:52:19 2014 No.11963301

>>11962504
Most game mechanics do not need to be understood for Lunatic 1ccs. However, understanding them means you have equal, if not greater chances of clearing games despite being worse at dodging than a player who does not.

In a situation where you want to delay borders, simply control when you hit 50000 Cherry+ by shooting focused (slow Cherry+ increase), unfocused (fast Cherry+ increase, or not shoot at all (no Cherry+ increase--ideal for ~49k Cherry+ situations). Although not all shottypes follow this rule, the Reimu shots certainly do.

For specific stage portions you would like to save a border for, you have to drop, or focus on picking up cherry items. Be mindful of how many spellcards you have captured, as each spellcard captured adds 100 additional cherry+ value to every cherry item.

All in all, not too necessary for Normal. It is a pretty reliable way to cancel bullets through Lunatic. Some may frown upon this, but a clear is a clear.

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 03:07:19 2014 No.11963315

>I can't play with this fever.
Scrap that. Once I take one step below, things get more simple, and I can read bullets again.

Added no-miss condition, although you could probably get one or two more borders by using deaths. Broken border on the penultimate spell. Decided to go with the flashy way on Reflowering, which in hindsight probably was a bad idea, as I gave up some graze during borders doing so. Somewhere around 777k.

Hard, ReimuB
747,530
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=32495

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 03:12:19 2014 No.11963325

Sorry if this gets brought up a lot; I don't really browse /jp/ much but I've been listening to the Touhou OSTs for quite some time now

So, which games do you think have the best OSTs?

I'm a bit stuck between Highly Responsive to Prayers, Perfect Cherry Blossom, and UFO. That's not to say other games don't have some particularly amazing songs, but I never skip a track on any of those albums.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 03:22:04 2014 No.11963346 >>11963325 Mountain of Faith.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 03:56:54 2014 No.11963404 Is it better to clear a game on easy/normal first and then try to progress or to start on hard or lunatic and keep trying until I can beat it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 04:06:40 2014 No.11963417 >>11963404 I just played on normal until I got the 1cc. Pick Hard and Lunatic if you need a challenge.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 04:12:39 2014 No.11963423 >>11963404 if you can stand the frustration of getting your ass absolutely handed to you ~500 times, go straight to Lunatic. Odds are, you can't, so take baby steps. Normal mode is nothing to sneeze at in most touhou games I've played.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 04:18:54 2014 No.11963428 File: 66 KB, 384x446, th025.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11962842 ReimuB. Not good enough. Will try harder if time and motivation allow. Sorry, shouldn't have promised to try the challenge if I knew I'd be this rusty.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 11:17:40 2014 No.11964011 >>11963404 Lunatic is the only way.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 11:43:40 2014 No.11964037 >>11963325 Imperishable Night has the best OST overall, I'd say. ESoD is good too, but the samples are sadly quite bad.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 12:42:03 2014 No.11964112 >>11963325 that topic deserves its own thread. this thread is for gameplay.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 13:02:03 2014 No.11964159 Any suggestions for spell cards to attempt to 90FPS timeout ? I just finished Fantasy Seal -Fader- and I want to attempt something else. IN preferably.

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 13:46:08 2014 No.11964226
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Normal, ReimuB
757,390

Broken border on the second nonspell, and poorly timed borders everywhere. Extremely bad performance on Reflowering.

>>11963428
Why, oh why would you hide the resources. Now the bomb route will haunt me overnight.

I hope this will suffice as motivation.

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 20:55:14 2014 No.11964758
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After a few months of not playing EoSD and UFO, I booted up UFO on Normal, miraculously captured "Star Maelstrom" and made it to "Devil's Recitation" before losing my last life. My previous record is a few seconds into Stage 5.

I also 1cc'd EoSD Normal for the first time, I've made it to Remi before, but this time it seemed incredibly easy, and I had 4 lives remaining.

>>11964159
Kaguya's LW, can't remember the name.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 00:31:58 2014 No.11965278 Which STG to play as first STG? Touhou? Which?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 00:33:42 2014 No.11965284 >>11965278 Go Beryllium.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 00:39:42 2014 No.11965295 Is that one blog with the huge amount of Touhou download links still around? I can't find it, but I could easily be bad at finding things

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 00:40:57 2014 No.11965301 >>11965278 EspGaluda

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 02:25:50 2014 No.11965567 File: 570 KB, 640x480, th109.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 03:44:26 2014 No.11965735 >>11965295 Moyira Shrine is probably what you're thinking about.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 03:50:12 2014 No.11965741 >>11962842 touhou is to hard for me i even played easy :c

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 05:54:46 2014 No.11966051 >>11965278 DonPachi Hong Kong version or Tatsujin OH.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 09:08:25 2014 No.11966468 >>11965295 moriya shrine has mega links, there's also a thread on /t/ with a collection of all of them with some fangames

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 09:35:10 2014 No.11966515 >>11965278 DoDonPachi, learn chaining up until 1-5 and then learn survival until you can loop the game consistently.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 16:30:44 2014 No.11967526 >>11965278 Dodonpachi is a good beginner shmup, it teaches you the fundamentals of dot dodging pretty well.

Anonymous Fri Mar 14 16:38:49 2014 No.11967559

Does anyone here use an arcade stick?
I'm not sure what I should get, preferably something that's at least compatible with the 360 and PC, and in best case compatible with the PS3 as well. There seems to be a lot of types and I don't want to spend $100+ on something that won't work on a certain system.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 17:25:19 2014 No.11967654 >>11967559 >360 and PC Thats the easiest combo just find a cheap ass 360 stick mod in good parts and you are set!

Anonymous Fri Mar 14 17:46:34 2014 No.11967686

>>11967559
stick = seimitsu
buttons = sanwa

be sure to get a PS360 compatible pcb and you'll be good. Most 360/PS3 pcbs are compatible with PC too, so you should be covered regardless of what you get. I went with a brawl stick and modded it some months ago, they work pretty good and they're easy as fuck to mod.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 18:49:55 2014 No.11967801 How do I survive Remilia's final phase/spell in EoSD? Today was the second time I went into that phase with three bombs zero lives and died at the last second.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 19:56:49 2014 No.11967944 >>11967801 There's no trick to it. It's a hard one if you're nervous, because every moment feels like you're about to die.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 21:13:24 2014 No.11968057 >>11967801 Mother fucking stage practice.

Anonymous Sat Mar 15 02:38:55 2014 No.11968672

>>11967801
remember that she's invincible while you're bombing, so don't just constantly bomb because you won't get ahead at all. I haven't played it in a while, but I think the thing that worked for me was timing my bombs a bit before the dense wave so that the dense bullets were mostly cleared, while she was also vulnerable again for a bit before spamming more bullets.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 15 08:47:25 2014 No.11969136 File: 127 KB, 637x479, im just smashing buttons.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Lunatic SakuyaBest 853,530 This has more unintentional misses or timeouts than successful milks

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 15 21:05:11 2014 No.11970769 >Time counter reaches 0 >It is the same as if I had damaged her enough to make her use the next spell card Why? Can you basically finish the game without shooting not even once?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 15 21:10:43 2014 No.11970780 >>11970769 Its called a pacifist clear. Thanks to its own nature, every single bullet possible to be spawned will be. Good luck.

Anonymous Sat Mar 15 21:21:58 2014 No.11970809

>>11970769
yeah, as >>11970780 mentioned, they're called pacifist clears, usually done only by the most accomplished of superplayers! However, it is not true that every single bullet will be spawned, as often timing down midbosses means that the second half of the stage portion is truncated. In SA, I think you even skip a spell or something, but maybe I'm mistaken.

As for why this is, I think that on the one hand, it means that if you're playing a narrow shot type and you get cornered in a place where you can't hit the boss, you're not hopelessly screwed, i.e. it sort of levels the difficulty between the homing and non-homing shottypes. Also, for scoring, in some games if there weren't a time limit, people would time down spells forever to raise their score limitlessly, which would make for very boring scoreplay, so a time limit helps with that too.

Anonymous Sat Mar 15 22:53:03 2014 No.11970978

I remember playing an old daimaku-like game around year 2000. It weren't a famous game and, in fact, I am pretty sure that it was a small freeware game.

In this game if you grazed a bullet blue balls appeared from the ship in the direction of the contact and you could use them to attack targets.
Also I remember that pressing secondary shoot button made the ship use balls that you could control (they usually went forward but if you kept the secondary button pressed and pressed left all balls would go left and etc). By pressing the secondary shoot button you also could make the graze balls to go forward so you could graze a line of bullets, make a shit ton of graze balls and then send all forward and destroy all enemies on the screen basically.

Anyone played this and remember the name?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 15 23:27:56 2014 No.11971033 FInally cleared UFO Extra after switching to Marisa A. Dunno what I should do next. Just have 6,7,11 Extra and 11,12,14 hard mode 1cc left. Which hard mode and extra do you think is the easiest of those?

Anonymous Sun Mar 16 03:27:13 2014 No.11971563
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Lunatic, SakuyaB
871,100

Fucked up most of the stuff, and was testing strategies from the second spell onwards. 900k is easy, anything several tens of thousands beyond that requires some actual knowledge and ability to handle SakuyaB properly (I'm having a hard time)

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 16 04:11:50 2014 No.11971645 >>11971033 14 probably has the easiest hard mode of those as long as you're good at collecting stuff above the PoC. 7 has the easiest extra of those, so you should do that one next.

>>	Saegrimr !SHIELDM.mE Sun Mar 16 04:21:35 2014 No.11971674 >>11971645 I found Mamizou to be the easiest extra. Only one i've cleared blind. The hitboxes are misleading, but theres generally tons of room to dodge unless you mess up on the part with the shooting men moving in a circle.

Anonymous Sun Mar 16 05:48:25 2014 No.11971826

>>11971674
He was asking for the easiest extra out of 6, 7 and 11, though.
I haven't really tried Mamizou so I'm not sure how hard she is, but I found Raiko to be the easiest extra boss overall. I hadn't even seen the whole second half of the fight when I cleared it, and it only took about 5 tries total, with the stage portion being the only difficult part.

>>	Saegrimr !SHIELDM.mE Sun Mar 16 06:02:40 2014 No.11971841 >>11971826 Ahh, you're right. I didn't follow the conversation entirely. That's pretty impressive though, that screen shake really messes with me even worse than Seija's gimmick.

Anonymous Sun Mar 16 10:13:08 2014 No.11972166

I started getting into Touhou about 2 months ago. About what difficulty are extra modes supposed to fall around? Harder than "Lunatic"? Easier than "Hard"? Or does it really depend on the game?

I beat IN's extra mode today, but I still am having trouble clearing EosD on normal mode. I have yet to 1cc it, despite attempting it at least 4x as many times as IN's extra mode took me to complete.

Is EosD just not a good place to start?

Anonymous Sun Mar 16 10:24:23 2014 No.11972184
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>>11972166
pick MarisaB and bomb every spell you have trouble with from stage 4 on.

Stages 1 to 3 I would just practice until I get them done without bombs and deaths.

Then again, my Lunatic 1cc has two deaths against Meilings trivial nonspells...

Anonymous Sun Mar 16 10:29:23 2014 No.11972192

>>11972184
Thanks. I use Marisa for pretty much everything, but I've been using MarisaA. I can get past stage 3 without losing a life, but... It isn't even the bosses that get me. I barely ever lose a life on Patchouli or Sakuya, but the journey to them is what wrecks me. I guess it may just be underestimating the fairies since so much focus is given to spell cards.

Thank you for the advice, gonna give it another shot.

Anonymous Sun Mar 16 10:37:38 2014 No.11972215

>>11972192
you mean the stage enemies? I remember picking ReimuA because I couldn't deal with them, but you probably won't get any better at the stages with a homing type.

By the way, here's the replay I was talking about
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=13040

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 16 15:25:18 2014 No.11972915 >>11972215 Your last uploaded replay is from 2012. What are you up to these days?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 16 15:29:47 2014 No.11972920 >>11972915 nothing really. Recently I was playing Touhou for old time's sake, but I'm not that interested in the series and shmups in general anymore. The last Touhou game I absolutely loved was Fairy Wars.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 16 16:38:31 2014 No.11973139 File: 568 KB, 640x480, th439.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Lunatic, SakuyaB 914,540 Okay, scrap whatever I said earlier. 950k would sound like a good target.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 17 15:15:44 2014 No.11975511 A bit slow brained today. At least I can reach stage 4 with some consistency now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 17 19:36:35 2014 No.11976165 File: 68 KB, 384x447, th026.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Normal - ReimuB 784,280 One miss, one bomb. Thanks for getting me to play this category again, I'd forgotten how enjoyable it was outside of full runs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 17 19:38:35 2014 No.11976177 >>11976165 glad you had fun :)

Anonymous Tue Mar 18 00:15:40 2014 No.11976849
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Figured I'd give this a shot and I ended up with 669880 cherry max, not nearly as much as everyone else here but good enough for me. I never do high score runs so that's my excuse. I just know how that shit works from the wiki and the few high score runs I've seen.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=32552

I love the last words so I'll be looking forward to the next challenge.

Anonymous Tue Mar 18 04:02:49 2014 No.11977232

>>11976165
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=32559
After some consideration, decided to upload the replay. It'd be disrespectful for me to submit something for a challenge and not do so (besides legitimacy and silly things like that). It is obviously not score-focused, but I hope people can enjoy watching it.

Anonymous Tue Mar 18 15:39:49 2014 No.11978373

Two questions about ESoD :
-Is there something I need to know about dodging the green books in stage 4 just before Koakuma besides "git gud" ?
-Are the rings the fairies shoot in stage 6 right before Sakuya static ? Because I can never dodge the last wave, and I was wondering if I could learn the safespots or if I just had to read it each time.

Anonymous Tue Mar 18 15:55:20 2014 No.11978400

>>11978373
Nothing. Just dodge it all. Look hard at your character and strife around. Remember that it is better to bomb than die. Practice the stage.

Go to a video and see how they dodged it. This + practice.

Sorry, I have no good advice but do practice runs on that particular stage to train.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 18 16:06:29 2014 No.11978417 >>11978373 >Are the rings the fairies shoot in stage 6 right before Sakuya static ? They're aimed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 18 16:54:36 2014 No.11978498 >>11978417 Oh, so a tiny bit of streaming would work to avoid them ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 18 16:58:37 2014 No.11978505 >>11978498 Yes, just tap. I don't know how tolerant it is. But once you find a way that works, it always works.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 18 16:58:51 2014 No.11978506 >>11978498 Exactly. It's possible for the fairies themselves to hit you since their movement is random, though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 18 17:07:32 2014 No.11978540 >>11978505 >>11978506 Great, I'll be sure to try that next time I play then. Now it's just the books that'll be a problem, so I'll just have to practice those a lot more.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 18 17:30:48 2014 No.11978589 >>11963325 I'd say HRtP as well. Imperishable Night as runner up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 18 19:36:14 2014 No.11978846 I just 1CC'd EoSD, and I 1CC'd PCB a bit ago. What should I do next? Try and beat Flandre or Ran? Go onto IN?

Anonymous Tue Mar 18 20:07:04 2014 No.11978890

>>11978846
In case you aren't sick of either game yet, why not stick around and see how you can improve on your probably terrible first clear? For a long time I made the mistake of "1CC and move on" which gave me a wide and shallow experience with no accomplishment.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 18 21:02:50 2014 No.11978999 >>11978400 dude wot? books are fuggen ez streaming just tap and ur safe

Anonymous Tue Mar 18 21:23:54 2014 No.11979040

I just downloaded the games a few days ago and I've never really played anything like it, so far im really enjoying it but I'd like to know if maybe I should start on something easier. Right now I can't even beat the easy mode but I can get just as far when plying normal (playing EoSD). I can't get past stage 4 even though patchouli doesn't seem hard. So I guess I'm wondering if I should try an overall easier game first or just continue trying to beat this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 18 21:45:24 2014 No.11979079 >>11979040 PCB lets you see your hitbox. Anyways, use shift.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 18 21:53:25 2014 No.11979095 >>11979040 Don't worry you'll get it. Try watching someone else play to see how they move and stuff.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 19 01:06:51 2014 No.11979507 >>11963325 Hard to say since they're all great. To me the particularly good ones are I guess UFO, SA, DDC, MoF, and PCB. Really hard to choose only a couple, they're all good in their own ways.

>>	Anonymousness's Panties shop(...) Wed Mar 19 06:20:36 2014 No.11979988 File: 914 KB, 3507x2480, 35115943.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11962842 I appear in this thread for the first time.My daughter is a fan of the Touhou.She knows a lot than me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 19 06:25:36 2014 No.11979994 >>11979040 Stage 4 and Patchouli are the hardest part of this game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 19 07:25:15 2014 No.11980026 >>11979988 Is your daughter a cutie?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 19 11:32:30 2014 No.11980361 what's a good score to end 1-2 with? I usually end it with 10m~12m and anything less than that is a reset, but I don't know if I should be shooting any higher.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 19 13:36:18 2014 No.11980571 >>11979040 Don't worry, eventually it will come for you. Just keep playing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 19 21:25:08 2014 No.11981547 >>11979988 oh look /int/'s troll is here too

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 20 19:06:08 2014 No.11983612 File: 114 KB, 930x600, 420.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Touhou STGT when?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 20 20:09:08 2014 No.11983741 >>11980361 DDP? Full chain and bees and no miss/bomb should be at least 16m. I've seen people get 18m but that's near the ceiling of every possible hit. You shouldn't restart too much though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 20 21:12:08 2014 No.11983863 >>11979040 hold shift bomb more dodge bullets get gud visit irc

Anonymous Fri Mar 21 06:01:08 2014 No.11984798
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Normal, ReimuB
792,260 - http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=32592

I'll leave it for you to optimize, the roof should be somewhere along 810k to 820k. I might come back to get 800k, but I certainly won't carry on further than that.

Here's the Lunatic replay, in case the other guy is still around, or someone wants to see the route. Garbage-tier execution.
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=32594

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 21 17:15:28 2014 No.11985755 File: 475 KB, 646x512, IN.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11962842 I posted my PCB one in the other thread but here's my one for IN.

Anonymous Fri Mar 21 19:47:51 2014 No.11986040
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How is it even possible to make it through the first spellcard of sage 3 in lunatic.
I'm always trying to move from the left to the right corner in the rhythm she shoots her red waves, but you have to be really good or really lucky to get a rather sparse pattern of the blue bullets around your position.

Anonymous Fri Mar 21 20:13:35 2014 No.11986110

>>11986040
Forgot to mention that i'm playing TH14 because it's the latest game. Playing the main games is really weird because i'm used to Aya's speed in the tengu games. The controls of Reimu A feel like controlling a granny over the street with a huge hitbox.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 00:27:47 2014 No.11986564 Anyone else always just wowed by the atmosphere of early 2hu games? The later ones have them too, though I'd venture to say that some of it is lost because the bosses take themselves less seriously.

Anonymous Sat Mar 22 01:04:32 2014 No.11986632

>>11986040
It's a very rhythmic attack. Misdirect the spam to left - right - left - right with small diagonal movements just as she is about to fire, and then navigate through the stray in the middle.

It's not easy, I give you that. If you're not top-notch in sightreading, I'd suggest you to just bomb that and most of the other attacks in that stage.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 01:27:47 2014 No.11986695 >>11986040 http://threplays.appspot.com/replay_files/th14_ud000j.rpy If you want to be safe you can use the corner-hugging method proposed here. It won't finish the card off, though.

Anonymous Sat Mar 22 06:23:44 2014 No.11987171
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No bombs. Made massive mistakes in stages 3 to 6.

It would seem that 1.8B is fairly reachable without major alterations to the route, but the goal remains at 1.75B, at least for now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 07:36:41 2014 No.11987246 File: 1.72 MB, 1275x949, 420.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11986040 http://threplays.appspot.com/replay_files/th14_ud000k.rpy This method works if you want to go fast. SakuyaA is even faster.

Anonymous Sat Mar 22 08:11:11 2014 No.11987273

Hello STG, i need a couple of tips and solve some doubts

-do thh6-9 not work work if i use a screen resolution larger than 1280x960? if i do my screen blinks and the game doesn't load and i have to force close it with task manager
-for SWR and UNL is there any way to adjust it's size in Windowed mode?
-Do you use controller (and which) or keyboard?
-How do i get myself to bomb more often?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 08:20:56 2014 No.11987281 >>11987273 Install vpatch. Most Western players use a keyboard, while Japanese tend to use a Saturn pad. Press X.

Anonymous Sat Mar 22 08:33:57 2014 No.11987305

>>11987281
I meant bomb more often, I usually think that i know most patterns and can sneak through but it's not the case or my pad fucks me by not correctly moving diagonally and i get hit, sometimes i also get cornered but think there's still a way out but get hit before i can even consider bombing

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 08:39:42 2014 No.11987318 >>11987305 Uh, just bomb instead of trying to dodge? There's not much more into that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 09:07:12 2014 No.11987363 Is there a trick to Utsuho's third non spell (the one that's like her first one, but curvy lines) ? It seems way too fast to read on lunatic, so I was wondering if I was missing something.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 10:36:07 2014 No.11987513 >>11987363 It's static, based on her position.

Anonymous Sat Mar 22 10:41:37 2014 No.11987525

>>11983741
Yea DDP, I expected my score to be pretty low compared to most people, I usually just chain to the first buildings after the midboss and then it drops. NMNB is a given, 1-2 is a stage I've been grinding out for a long time now. I think I've only fully chained the stage once in all, which is pretty damn bad.

>>11987273
I played with keyboard first, then bought a converter for my DS2, played for about five months, decided I didn't really like it and went back to keyboard. I prefer playing on a good mechanical keyboard or an arcade stick. My skill difference between pad and keyboard didn't differ much, but it did take a little bit getting used to playing on the controller for the first few days.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 13:55:52 2014 No.11987838 File: 888 KB, 947x1000, 1393322612699.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm in the mood to play for most of the day today but for some reason I keep making stupid mistakes and dying on easy shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 14:11:39 2014 No.11987879 does anyone here play muchi muchi pork?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 15:54:57 2014 No.11988050 Who is the hardest Stage 6 boss?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 15:55:12 2014 No.11988051 >>11987246 Thanks, that worked great. I might consider switching to SakuyaA.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 15:59:12 2014 No.11988062 >>11988050 Whichever one is the stage 6 boss of the newest Toho game. So in other words, the dwarf.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 16:02:57 2014 No.11988069 File: 1.11 MB, 1920x1200, 1390702267816.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11988050

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 16:10:42 2014 No.11988083 >>11987246 What kind of technique does the player uses to make so much damage with ReimuA?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 16:11:43 2014 No.11988086 >>11988062 >Miko >a dwarf Get out secondary

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 16:17:08 2014 No.11988096 >>11988086 >newest >Miko

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 16:19:40 2014 No.11988101 >>11988096 >implying that Touhou 14 is out yet When Zun when?

Anonymous Sat Mar 22 16:20:24 2014 No.11988102

>>11988050
Remilia is most likely to wall you, so hardest to consistently perfect.
Yuyuko isn't too hard but Resurrection Buttefly 80% makes up for it a bit.
Eirin isn't too hard.
Kaguya needs to be practised a lot, but spell card practise exists. Also Hourai fucking Jewel.
Kanako is easy enough.
Utsuho is pretty hard.
Byakuren is dumb.
Miko is boring.
Midget isn't too hard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 16:21:09 2014 No.11988107 File: 60 KB, 500x730, ok.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11988101

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 16:31:57 2014 No.11988126 >>11988107 But it isn't out yet. What the hell is taking so long anyways, I would have thought it would have come out by October at the latest.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 16:36:42 2014 No.11988137 File: 1.33 MB, 1413x1100, 1395520589699.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11988086 >>11988101 Do you even Sukuna? I have yet to 1CC this game because of Sukuna, but she's too cute to be angry at

Anonymous Sat Mar 22 16:41:27 2014 No.11988142

>>11988137
>thinking a fanmade Touhou is canon

Oh, you mean the fanmade Touhou game with stuff like the stage 5 boss that fucked around with everything like your controls or viewing screen, the complete lack of balance in general, your Sukuna, who committed the ultimate sin (i.e. NEVER EVER FUCK AROUND WITH MY HITBOX), the most irrelevant bosses ever in a plot that's even more asine than most Touhou plots (stage 5 and 6 are the only 2 relevant ones, even extra is filler)

God, how out of it must you be to mistake a fangame for an official game?

Sukuna is too cute though, I'll give you that.

Anonymous Sat Mar 22 17:03:27 2014 No.11988188

>>11988050
Remi: Hard
Yuyuko: her fight is more long than it is hard
Eirin: last two spells can be pretty stupid if you go for perfect
Kaguya: first and last spells are stupid
Kanako: opener and VoWG and that's it
Utsuho: first two spells are real hard
Byakuren: she's stupid
Miko: XXC
Sukuna: anyone not ReimuA has a hard time with her

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 20:31:18 2014 No.11988648 >>11988142 >DDC >fangame Uh...

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 20:33:18 2014 No.11988653 >>11988648 It is, and how the fuck are you so delusional to think otherwise? Post any proof that it's not just a fangame. ANY proof. Also all of you who call Byakuren dumb/stupid need to practice more; she's honestly the easiest to me.

>>	Saegrimr !SHIELDM.mE Sat Mar 22 20:42:18 2014 No.11988665 >>11988653 In the off chance you are actually retarded. http://kourindou.exblog.jp/20835251/ http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Double_Dealing_Character

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 20:45:18 2014 No.11988672 >>11988653 Sukuna also showed up in an official manga. She's Reimu's pet now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 20:50:18 2014 No.11988675 >>11988665 >>11988672 ...well, fuck. Sukuna (have never 1CC'd DDC beacuse of her) > Utsuho (hell on earth) > Kanako > Remilia > Kaguya > Yuyuko > Eirin > Miko > Byakuren (joke)

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 20:53:18 2014 No.11988680 Surreal.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 20:57:18 2014 No.11988689 ITT people talking about Normal.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 21:36:05 2014 No.11988761 File: 1.10 MB, 1200x1200, das it.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11966051

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 23:19:51 2014 No.11988959 >>11988675 Hi MaZe.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 05:15:24 2014 No.11989504 >>11988653 Dumb doesn't mean hard. I know she's easy, she's just a terrible final boss.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 05:21:09 2014 No.11989509 >>11988188 >the hardest Stage 6 boss is the smallest Touhou Oh god, with stuff like that and the fighting games in which Cirno can beat Yukari... Sukuna has already won.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 05:50:02 2014 No.11989544 >>11988653 well there's always http://kourindou.exblog.jp/ 4/10 for getting people to reply to you at least

Anonymous Sun Mar 23 07:07:46 2014 No.11989659

Is it just me or are bullets sometimes faster and sometimes slower? I've been playing EoSD lately and I get the feeling that that's the case. For example the green books right before Orin. Sometimes the screen is filled with slow moving bullets, sometimes the bullets are faster and not so close to eachother.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 07:15:46 2014 No.11989670 >>11989659 >green books right before Orin

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 07:20:16 2014 No.11989679 File: 165 KB, 384x449, green books.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11989670 Hm?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 07:30:46 2014 No.11989690 >>11989679 Orin is not in EoSD. You're thinking Patchouli.

Anonymous Sun Mar 23 07:41:01 2014 No.11989705

>>11970809
Not only SA, but pretty much every mid boss of every touhou will flee if you time out the first part, thus you don't have to face their spellcard. It's like this with the 6-7-10-11-12 I don't remember well with the 8th but I'm sure this is true too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 07:58:16 2014 No.11989727 >>11989679 >>11989690 both thinking koakuma

Anonymous Sun Mar 23 09:54:46 2014 No.11989863

>>11988689
>Normal

Who does this? Everybody I know of has always 1cced Normal first day or second day and then moved on to Lunatic scoring right away. There shouldn't be other difficulties in my opinion, Lunatic captures the arcade experience just fine.

Anonymous Sun Mar 23 23:37:03 2014 No.11991473

>>11989863
I spent months working on my first normal clear. It's a big hurdle for people new to the genre. I didn't keep records, but I'm almost certain that going from normal to hard and hard to lunatic in every game took less time than that first normal clear

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 00:45:39 2014 No.11991601 >>11991473 he's joking

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 00:46:54 2014 No.11991605 >>11989659 >>11989670 >>11989679 >>11989690 holy shit you guys ahahaha

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 01:18:23 2014 No.11991651

>>11989659
Your feeling is right. EoSD has rank. It drops when you die or bomb or let point items drop (dying lowering it the most), so there're the slow bullets. When you live long enough without mistakes like those, the bullets become faster. Some attacks are easier at high rank, others are harder.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 02:36:30 2014 No.11991786 >>11991651 Oh, shit. Does that affect meiling's first spell? Is that why I can't get the timing right on that?

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 18:00:51 2014 No.11993195

>>11988142
>fucked around with your controls
you like castlevania, don't you?

also, pofv is my favorite fangame.

>>11991786
it affects most things, so maybe, although i haven't noticed a difference. but meiling's first is just tap-dodging. it's one you should be able to nail at any rank.

speaking of meiling, one place where rank is very noticeable is flower dream vine. makes me doubly sad if i derp and die because the reduced rank takes a fun card and puts it in slow-mo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 19:20:51 2014 No.11993330 >>11991786 The miniboss spell or actual boss?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 02:26:28 2014 No.11994015 File: 113 KB, 640x480, th012.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ｷﾀ━━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━━!!

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 10:55:47 2014 No.11994639 >>11994015 wowo good job, nice score, I'm jealous.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 12:03:35 2014 No.11994725 >>11994015 Great! Maybe you'll put another credit into the thread challenge, now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 12:22:24 2014 No.11994750 >>11994015 epic score dude

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 15:16:51 2014 No.11995103 i got normal ending on touhou 8, does that count as 1cc?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 15:53:36 2014 No.11995156 >>11995103 1cc means one credit clear. If you used a continue, it isn't a 1cc, if not, congratulations.

Anonymous Tue Mar 25 16:10:36 2014 No.11995185

Holy shit the amount of pointless Touhou threads on /jp/ is staggering. I mean not this one but for example right now:

>What would Reimu have for a pet if she had one? Pic probably not related
>Girly 2hus: Hey /jp/, which Touhou is the most girlish? No hags, please. Pic related. Youmu is a 100% girl.
>What are Sanae's goals in life?

And so on. Like half of the threads right now are dumb shit about Touhou characters. Has it always been like this? Is it some kind of funney mehmehs or something?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 16:11:06 2014 No.11995188 >>11995185 No, people just like talking about dumb shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 16:57:36 2014 No.11995292 >>11995185 >Has it always been like this? Yes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 18:27:13 2014 No.11995490 >>11995185 How fucking new are you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 18:29:12 2014 No.11995494 >>11994015 Holy fuck, that's insane. Good job dude.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 22:38:55 2014 No.11996019 >>11995185 What do you mean, pointless? They're all clearly trying to tease out the more subtle aspects of various 2hu's characters, which is a noble pursuit in and of itself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 22:59:10 2014 No.11996057 >>11994639 >>11994750 >>11995494 Thanks. UFO is an annoying scoregame though. Would not recommend. People should play PCB though, that's a good game. >>11994725 N-No thank you.

Anonymous Wed Mar 26 10:51:12 2014 No.11997021

>>11996057
UFO a shit, PCB best score game. Strikers bestest score game.

What is the most perfectionist scoring system? I vote for DoDonPachi simply because there is no hope of having a good run if you drop a chain anywhere at all or bomb/die. The game practically begs you to reset if any mistakes are made. Good game nonetheless.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 26 12:02:38 2014 No.11997185 Anyone here play Mushihimesama Futari? I'm working on my first 1cc in original. The second half of stage 3 is hard as fuck though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 26 12:13:53 2014 No.11997212 File: 443 KB, 559x615, yolograze.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Steam sales when? I just saw Ikaruga there.

Anonymous Wed Mar 26 12:21:23 2014 No.11997221

>>11997185
Yeah, it's a good game. I want to start trying for an Ultra 1cc eventually, but I don't think I'll get anywhere since I'm interrupted every five minutes now. The only STG related thing I've done is small bursts of stage practice/save state practice in various mamestg. I think I can reach my scoring goals, but not like this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 26 14:00:48 2014 No.11997406 >>11997021 ddp is piss easy to chain compared to donpachi the chain system is dumb and lazy regardless >>11997221 ultra is silly play maniac mode

Anonymous Wed Mar 26 14:11:03 2014 No.11997426

>>11997406
ddp is piss easy to chain compared to scoring/playing anything. dojwl and sdoj are way better/harder/more fun games.
1-1: learned it in 5 minutes
1-2: max chain by the end of my first day playing
1-3: took a bit, but eventually got it after two days of practice
1-4: only hard part is actually beginning the chain
1-5: hold the C button to fully chain stage
1-6: okay this one was kind of tricky for about a week and then it was npnp

it also doesn't teach you anything survival because it's nothing but streaming sans bosses, but even then they're really static.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 26 14:45:03 2014 No.11997469 >>11997426 Post 'em

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 26 15:34:21 2014 No.11997558 >>11997426 it gets harder in the loop if you want a respectable score you have to keep the chain up until the end and save a few ships after tlb

Anonymous Wed Mar 26 15:43:36 2014 No.11997575 [DELETED]

>>11997426
>ddp is piss easy to chain compared to scoring/playing anything.

Depends on the ship. Albeit what you said applies more to the 2nd loop where chaining with type C-S fallsdown to hold c button.

>it also doesn't teach you anything survival because it's nothing but streaming sans bosses, but even then they're really static

The entire game is survival bomb/die bye bye accumulated maximum bonus.

Anonymous Wed Mar 26 15:47:22 2014 No.11997579

>>11997426
>ddp is piss easy to chain compared to scoring/playing anything.

Depends on the ship. Albeit what you said applies more to the 2nd loop where chaining with type C-S fallsdown to hold c button.

>it also doesn't teach you anything survival because it's nothing but streaming sans bosses,

The entire game is survival, bomb/die bye bye accumulated maximum bonus.

>but even then they're really static

Did we even play the same game? 2-6 boss hops around as if hes got ants in his pants

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 26 15:58:36 2014 No.11997598 Which superplayer would you fuck? No name dropping.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 26 16:04:22 2014 No.11997607 >>11997598 CLOVER-TAC there is no other choice.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 26 16:10:06 2014 No.11997613 >>11997598 >>11997607 gross please stop it

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 26 23:33:18 2014 No.11998278 >>11997598 IN hard guy

Anonymous Thu Mar 27 04:39:10 2014 No.11998692

My friend has 10.5 and 12.3 but can't get the 10.5 characters in 12.3 while I was able to but can't remember what all I did beyond the install path. Is there something we could be overlooking or causing it? He has the 10.5 path in the 12.3 config and has played a match in each and completed the story for 12.3.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 27 07:20:07 2014 No.11998838 File: 129 KB, 500x622, 1378747704388.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I just witnessed the GFW Stage 3 last spell bug, where the game crashes right after the end of the fight.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 27 09:33:05 2014 No.11998981 >>11997598 the best american superplayer also OOSAKA, have you heard his voice :3

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 27 09:55:06 2014 No.11999002 >>11998981 >:3 Kill yourself out of /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 27 11:57:05 2014 No.11999144 >>11997598 the best EU superplayer >>11998692 SWR folder first, put the soku/th123 folder inside of the SWR folder, that's what did it for me. Are both games fully up to date? I kept it simple for my install, C:\Scarlet Weather Rhapsody\th123.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 27 15:10:04 2014 No.11999385 File: 404 KB, 342x342, 1364240924116.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Finally 1cc'd EoSD!!

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 27 15:14:34 2014 No.11999393 >>11999385 Congratulations.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 27 15:18:49 2014 No.11999401 >>11999393 Thanks. It was a shitty run but 1cc'd nontheless

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 27 15:20:34 2014 No.11999404 >>11999401 post the replay

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 27 15:25:37 2014 No.11999415 >>11999404 http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=32645 A few mistakes near the end

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 27 15:31:21 2014 No.11999428 File: 427 KB, 999x1339, dsaf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I hate this fucking game

Anonymous Thu Mar 27 16:14:21 2014 No.11999498

>>11999428
how the name of fuck do you get this good aaaa I barely even make it past 2-2 and it took me almost a year and a half to get to that point, I want to kill myself for being so shit at this god damned game. It isn't even a fucking hard game, but I can't stop making idiotic mistakes because I get shaky as frig whenever I reach my pathetic pb(100m).

I feel like breaking my keyboard over my head anytime I die or bomb before 1-6, easiest shit in the world and it feels like it's actually difficult. What the hell is wrong with me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 27 18:36:21 2014 No.11999747 Is there anything I could use to extract the likes of the in-game character portraits, backgrounds and so on?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 27 18:44:14 2014 No.11999762 >>11999428 Where was the first miss/bomb?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 27 18:54:44 2014 No.11999774 >>11999762 Late 2-5

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 27 19:15:37 2014 No.11999797 >>11999747 http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,197.0.html

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 27 19:54:07 2014 No.11999837 >>11998981 Fuck off Zengeku

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 27 20:36:53 2014 No.11999909 >>11999797 Thanks!

Anonymous Thu Mar 27 20:53:49 2014 No.11999957
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I used to think Koishi was a pretty cool touhou until I decided to actually make an effort to clear her stage. Spent hours today trying to clear it and finally ended up capturing every fucking card up to Subterranean Rose, and I still didn't fucking make it.

What really kills me is that the card is easy as fuck yet I still mess it up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 27 21:10:04 2014 No.12000018 How do I deal with Maze of Love in EoSD?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 27 22:03:43 2014 No.12000111 >>12000018 www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTkW0RBe6yI Ignore the blasts of bullets, the important part is getting through the gaps. Always keep moving or it'll catch up to you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 28 06:02:25 2014 No.12001179 File: 39 KB, 640x480, steam.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Obviously best stg

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 28 21:06:02 2014 No.12002471 >>11995185 >Discussing the lore of Gensoukyou to its fullest >Pointless

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 28 21:17:31 2014 No.12002488 >>12002471 >>12002475 ho qt?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 28 22:48:14 2014 No.12002609 Newcomer in EoSD Lunatic here, only been able to 1cc Lunatic with ReimuA, playing with ReimuB is way harder to what I experienced, absolutely hate Stage 3 but I do relatively fine on the other stages. Some tips on Meiling?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 28 23:06:32 2014 No.12002635 >>12002609 Avoid bulelts hold shift press x

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 28 23:23:08 2014 No.12002687 >>12002609 ReimuB does more damage if you shotgun.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 28 23:35:20 2014 No.12002714 Whichever one of you told me the classic games where good lied. Lotus Land story looks bad, and is easy.

Anonymous Sat Mar 29 04:08:46 2014 No.12003148

>>12002609

Sure.

On the first non spell, when Meiling is at or near the top of the screen, position your hitbox on her head. Once she's done firing bullets, follow her to wherever she's going, and she wont die. This gives considerable graze.

On the firt spellcard, you want to do 2 suicides here, and all the bombs you have after the first suicide. her health should be really low after the second death, go down and mind the cancel.

on the last nonspell, use your bombs near the corner although mind meilings position (if shes further away, go a little closer) and the timing is after she's stopped moving a split second before she fires the blue wave.

If you want any more advice then feel free to ask. there's quite a few options in this fight so the second non card for instance you could just graze farm if you'd rather keep your resources. More graze is always nice.

I also find that a good beginner strategy is to not use all the bombs on her last non spell but to instead save one for the stage 4 books, giving you a better chance at no-missing stage 4.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 29 06:22:20 2014 No.12003305 >>12002714 they are best

Anonymous Sat Mar 29 06:34:21 2014 No.12003319
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>>12002714
No one thinks the PC-98 games are good.
I like the idea of Phantasmagoria as a multiplayer STG, but if you play it for your own it's just random as HELL since you play against a AI.
The second Phantasmagoria was a bit better, but unfortunately the netplay sucks ass and even if you use a 3'rd party tool it's still sometimes unplayable.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 29 06:36:50 2014 No.12003324 >>12003148 I'm pretty sure the dude didn't ask for scoring advice.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 29 06:48:50 2014 No.12003343 File: 31 KB, 236x236, 1256151762403.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12003324

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 29 06:51:05 2014 No.12003349 anyone netplay PoFV anymore?

Anonymous Sat Mar 29 11:40:13 2014 No.12003644

>>12003324
Well, what do you expect from these elitists? They spend their time in that IRC channel circlejerking over how good they are and making fun of beginner players and those who are not as good as them in these threads. Coincidentally, another source to gather attention happens to be these threads. Since most of the actually good western players (who actually gave good advice to beginner players, who understood the differences between skill levels, who played for reasons beyond bragging rights and attention) have abandoned this community and STGs entirely, you're only left with these people. Those hard workers have been replaced by obnoxious and talented players and it leads to this kind of passive-condescending attitude.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 29 12:11:28 2014 No.12003679 >>12003644 Not everyone's like that albeit I have been there like two times.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 29 12:27:28 2014 No.12003704 >>12003644 Someone sounds mad and jealous.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 29 12:33:28 2014 No.12003716 >>12003704 Mad, no. Jealous, very.

Anonymous Sat Mar 29 12:44:43 2014 No.12003736

>>12003704

What's the point in expressing that anger? It sounds like you left the community and bottled up these negative feelings, just keep them to yourself. I was only trying to be helpful. Let's be real here, what kind of advice should one expect for Meiling? Dodging her is just twitching.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 29 13:33:43 2014 No.12003822 >>12003736 I don't understand how one can even find written ways of dodging something useful. Not that previous guy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 29 13:44:13 2014 No.12003845 >>11999428 >C-L wot

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 29 13:45:43 2014 No.12003850 >>12003845 he's doing it because A-L is too mainstream and easy :3

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 29 13:54:28 2014 No.12003876 >>12003850 A-L is too fast for me I cant stand fast ships. Also A-L mainstream pfff C-S is what most people play. I have seen a 500+ TYPE A-S , TYPE-B ship remains a mystery though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 29 13:57:43 2014 No.12003885 >>12003876 A-L is mainstream tier, C-S is pleb tier.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 29 14:02:29 2014 No.12003900 File: 36 KB, 240x320, 0014.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How long should it take to nmnb the first loop anyway? I'm tired of bombing and dying to it after a month of hard practice... Trivial garbage my ass.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 29 14:06:43 2014 No.12003918 >>12003900 I can't answer that question really depends on person to person. But what I can say is dont just look at ZBL NAI and K-BANs replays take a look at some random 2-ALLs on nico video you might find some useful stuff in there aswell.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 29 14:16:58 2014 No.12003948 >>12003918 I've been copying KOs replay and slightly modifying his routes to suit my scrubby ass. I hit my first bomb on 1-5 while trying to chain most of the time, shit sucks yo.

Anonymous Sat Mar 29 14:27:28 2014 No.12003979

>>12003644
I don't agree with this. I spent a good while as an active member of the said IRC-channel, and from my experience, majority of the people over there were fairly kind and helpful, sometimes willing to go into details with "beginner" advice, unlike the now-gone players you speak of, whom largely encouraged people to learn things themselves. They are fervent on their opinions and and aren't all too adept with knowing how to act on /jp/, which is why they are often somewhat easily distinguishable. Admittedly, it has been several months since I parted ways with the last IRC-channels centered on playing Touhou, but I highly doubt the place has changed all that much.

>>12003736
Well, I wouldn't advice someone who is attempting to clear the game to trade resources for points, nor would I tell them to attempt unintuitive grazing. You could tell them about how the first non is affected by your movement, or how the second spell becomes easier once you play larger attention to the screen. I also doubt Meiling is entirely reaction-based dodging, given a lot of her attacks have static elements.

>>12002609
Albeit there are some tricks to her attacks, a major part of surviving Meiling comes from figuring out some of the attacks, and purely reading and dodging the other ones. I would recommend stage practice, and perhaps watching a replay or two. If you could do it with ReimuA, you can certainly do it with ReimuB; she deals way more damage.

Anonymous Sat Mar 29 14:27:28 2014 No.12003980 [DELETED]

>>12003948
Try not to get too stalled at a spot for too long its better to continue on into the game getting more experienced. If you just cannot find a route where you chain a full stage consistently without dying well then so be it.Maximum bonus multiplier in the 2nd loop is where the big bucks come from.

Anonymous Sat Mar 29 14:29:28 2014 No.12003987

>>12003948
Try not to get too stalled at a spot for too long its better to continue on into the game getting more experienced. If you just cannot find a route where you chain a full stage consistently without dying well then so be it come back later and rework it.Maximum bonus multiplier in the 2nd loop is where the big bucks come from.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 29 14:47:43 2014 No.12004037 >>12002714 They're pretty ok. Especially if you wanna get into Touhou you could start with LLS IMO

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 29 21:14:24 2014 No.12004682 Closest thing I've played to a bullet hell shooter would be binding of issac. If I wanted to play a 2d fighter, is there a good touhou version somewhere?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 29 21:15:09 2014 No.12004685 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O8EQSWUScw

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 29 21:16:09 2014 No.12004686 >>12004682 Go to the Soku threads on /v/.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 29 21:18:24 2014 No.12004692 >>12004682 Touhou 7.5, 10.5, 12.3, and 13.5 are all 2D fighters.

Anonymous Sat Mar 29 21:59:40 2014 No.12004755

>>12003948
1-5 middle part... After ### hours of practice and doing it many times I still don't exactly "know" how to do it. Too often it still dissolves into hell or I drop the chain with my shot while stalling for a gap. I need to get scientific on it.

Anonymous Sat Mar 29 23:58:04 2014 No.12004956

>>12002635
>bulelts
lel. this made me smile.

>>12003319
>random as HELL
that's the point. there's a good amount to learn, but there's essentially no memo. just reading, cancelling, and dodging. and fast bullets.

if you want to optimize then this isn't the game for you. but if you just want to dial it to 11 in less than a minute and keep it there for however long you want to play, then podd is the best thing going.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 00:52:22 2014 No.12005025 so for a newbie, i want to clear some extra stages. do i just keep playing and slowly get better until i clear it? any tips?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 05:15:55 2014 No.12005370 >>12005025 Try going for a hard/lunatic 1CC at the same time in the game that you're trying to clear the extra mode, since you'll get better faster that way.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 07:54:44 2014 No.12005502 File: 65 KB, 744x446, 1298616827286.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do i train myself in using these goddamn bombs before i die. I keep forgetting that they exist.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 08:18:59 2014 No.12005548 >>12005502 Using bombs makes you weak.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 09:52:49 2014 No.12005701 >>12005502 I've always thought that if I managed to bomb correctly, I'd be able to beat any lunatic no problem. I always end up dying with full bombs though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 10:23:58 2014 No.12005776 >>12005502 Do you know where you die? Are you retarded?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 10:43:12 2014 No.12005812 http://stgrillz.appspot.com/pofv pofv tourney

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 10:44:00 2014 No.12005813 >>12005776 If a projectile collide with your hitbox, you die - unless there are certain methods to cancel the death. It's very obvious since you lose a life after that and respawn, you can't miss it when this happens.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 10:49:30 2014 No.12005821 >>12005812 I kinda want to participate, but if an european like me fights against an american the ping issues are too much of a drawback.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 10:51:15 2014 No.12005827 >>12005821 What country are you in? The PoFV players who go to /v/ manage games from US West to Poland.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 11:08:30 2014 No.12005857 File: 20 KB, 184x244, 1380474464894.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12005827 >PoFV players who go to /v/ now i don't want to play anymore

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 11:13:00 2014 No.12005867 >>12005857 They go to the daily soku threads. Its not like you'll find people in /jp/ who will be willing to play.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 11:30:00 2014 No.12005897 >>12005857 It's not /v/'s fault /jp/ stopped giving a shit about the Touhou games.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 11:33:30 2014 No.12005907 >>12005897 The /v/ touhou players also have a noticeably different attitude about the series, and they look down on the blatant Waifu threads.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 11:34:15 2014 No.12005910 >>12005907 /jp/'s (net)players don't exist anymore so it's pretty much a wash.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 11:35:15 2014 No.12005913 >>12005910 A couple of the soku players go to the /v/ soku threads, and there was a soku thread up a while ago, wasn't there?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 11:37:30 2014 No.12005915 >>12005913 /jp/ used to have active soku threads, but everyone who used to post in them either went to IRC or stopped playing. Now they get maybe one host a day, and only when anyone cares enough to make the thread.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 12:32:16 2014 No.12006043 >>12005827 >The PoFV players who go to /v/ manage games from US West to Poland. Most of the players on /v/ are also really horrible at PoFV.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 12:44:29 2014 No.12006068 File: 233 KB, 900x453, 1391913403157.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12006043 Well, at least they play on lunatic.

Anonymous Sun Mar 30 12:54:29 2014 No.12006089 [DELETED]

>>12005867
>>12005910
pretty sure people are still around, it's just that interest comes and goes. unless there's a tourney, it's nearly impossible to find matches, so folks quit bothering and busied themselves with other shmups/stuff.

go to rizon #pofvgrillz if you want to pofv. there's already been a game or two today.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 12:55:44 2014 No.12006095 >>12006089 I'm already there, I just haven't played a match yet.

Anonymous Sun Mar 30 12:56:14 2014 No.12006098

>>12005867
>>12005910
pretty sure people are still around, it's just that interest comes and goes. unless there's a tourney, it's nearly impossible to find matches, so folks quit bothering and busied themselves with other shmups/stuff.

go to rizon #pofvgrillz if you want to pofv. there's already been a game or two today.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 13:42:55 2014 No.12006211 What are legit PoFV strats?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 13:48:56 2014 No.12006231 >>12006211 Dodge bullets, don't suicide or waste meter.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 13:58:25 2014 No.12006257 File: 59 KB, 506x384, easymode.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Sun Mar 30 14:45:16 2014 No.12006423

How are the eForCity PS2 converters? The d-pad of my PS3 controller is fucked and I can't play with it like it is, diagonals hardly get read, tap dodging is nearly impossible, and sometimes the input isn't read at all.

I tried to convince myself that I just don't care about competition, so I just used keyboard for months after my pad died. I truly realized today that I just can't play these games knowing how much better I am on pad, getting destroyed by people who I used to go even with is a lot more painful that I thought it would be.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 14:48:46 2014 No.12006430 >>12006211 Play as Medicine, Aya or Eiki.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 15:08:46 2014 No.12006465 >>12006430 Medicine and Aya (especially Aya) are bad in netplay.

Anonymous Sun Mar 30 15:47:27 2014 No.12006555

>>12006211
monitor spell points and time enemy chains to keep your opponent's boss off of your screen and your boss on his.

also plan/time your attacks on fairy chains and activated spirits to clear masses of pellets. this serves both offensive and defensive purposes.

gain a spellbar advantage over your opponent and use spells when he's in a tight situation.

don't use lvl4s. only use lvl3s when your opponent is on the ropes and if you're using a character whose lvl3 is much stronger then her lvl2.

bomb only when there's no way you can avoid a hit, and even then it's usually better to take a hit because you're at risk of taking two hits if you bomb. the exception is if the next hit would bring you to your last half-orb of health: it's better to bomb since you'll get a full spellbar if you get hit after bombing.

some pellets are aimed, so streaming rules apply even if you can't see an obvious stream.

play as reimu to win matches and lose friends.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 15:50:42 2014 No.12006561 >>12006465 medicine isn't bad.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 15:57:42 2014 No.12006575 >>12006555 >the exception is if the next hit would bring you to your last half-orb of health or if you're already on your last half-orb of health (duh).

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 15:59:57 2014 No.12006581 >>12006555 Does being in focus has any particular effects? A shadow starts appearing around my hitbox. If i play Aya i always spam lvl1 attacks since they doesn't reduce the attack meter.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 16:02:57 2014 No.12006587 >>12006581 it "activates" slaves (those half-moon shaped white fat bullets you can destroy), which makes them easier to destroy and clear out bullets

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 03:18:18 2014 No.12007866 File: 143 KB, 640x480, th012.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It turns out adjusting the location of the suicide gives extra 500-600 graze (^・ω・^ )

Anonymous Mon Mar 31 11:54:52 2014 No.12008716
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2.6B would be fairly attainable without the difficult stage 4 pattern, maybe even a bit more if I made no mistakes. I'm unsure whether to carry on with this or just play something else, as Sakuya solo never was my favorite shot of choice for scoring. No bomb on Lunatic is rather nice.

Anonymous Mon Mar 31 17:12:48 2014 No.12009428 [DELETED]

>>12006581
it's like >>12006587 said, which is important because spirits won't cancel pellets if you destroy them on their own without activating them.

try reading over pofv's gameplay section on the touhou wiki. it should answer most questions about game mechanics.

Anonymous Mon Mar 31 17:20:48 2014 No.12009443 [DELETED]

>>12006581
it's like >>12006587 said, which is important because otherwise their explosions won't cancel pellets or start an explosion chain (though if they're destroyed as part of an ongoing chain then their explosions will cancel pellets and continue the chain). the exception is with marisa's and reisen's lvl1 attacks: any unactivated spirits killed by these will cancel pellets and continue chains as if they were activated.

try reading over pofv's gameplay section on the touhou wiki. it should answer most questions about game mechanics.

Anonymous Mon Mar 31 17:22:47 2014 No.12009450

>>12006581
it's like >>12006587 said, which is important because otherwise their explosions won't cancel pellets or start an explosion chain (though if they're destroyed as part of an ongoing chain then their explosions will cancel pellets and continue the chain). the exception is with marisa's and reisen's lvl1 spells: any unactivated spirits killed by these will cancel pellets and continue chains as if they were activated.

try reading over pofv's gameplay section on the touhou wiki. it should answer most questions about game mechanics.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 17:38:48 2014 No.12009483 >>12009450 You forgot Youmu's level 1 spell.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 21:28:17 2014 No.12009902 >>12009483 never noticed that... i had always thought it was just part of the slash. thanks for pointing this out.

Anonymous Mon Mar 31 22:36:29 2014 No.12010034

So I've been playing Touhou (I mainly play IN) for about 2 weeks and I'm getting better pretty fast but I want to know is there a particular character/game/diff that will help me work on my mechanical skills more than spamming Reimu+yukari/touhou 8/hard every once and a while some marissa+alice

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 23:26:38 2014 No.12010132 >>12010034 Play EoSD. You can't see the Hitbox. Don't play IN. It gives you bad bombing habits.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 23:39:53 2014 No.12010166 >>12010034 Play them all.

Anonymous Tue Apr 1 04:40:49 2014 No.12010630

>>12010034

I do sort of feel like starting with IN would be unwise if only because of its differences from the others.

It is mostly easier though.

But I only get to start out once, so it's not like I can actually do any more than guess. I started playing seriously on Mountain of Faith, primarily because I actually couldn't beat Mountain of Faith without taking it seriously (continues are useless.) I just messed around and bombed everything with continues on all the games before it, but MoF forced me to be honest. Probably even moreso than SA, despite the harsher bombing mechanic.

It also taught me to focus my practice on stage 4, because you can usually make the biggest gains there and a better stage 4 = an easier stage 6.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 1 08:31:54 2014 No.12010901 >>12010034 No, there's nothing better and more fun than IN.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 1 10:11:54 2014 No.12011080 >>12010901 piano recital.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 1 11:31:46 2014 No.12011248 File: 85 KB, 1000x1000, 19125800.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Streaming some Touhou 11 Lunatic NMNBNF attempts followed up by some ChuChu Rocket Komeiji Edition! Stream link: www.twitch . tv/nindella

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 1 11:53:31 2014 No.12011292 >>12011248 I lol'd

Anonymous Tue Apr 1 15:22:47 2014 No.12011782

Could anybody give me some advice for high jumping in IaMP/Soku on keyboard? It's really sluggish feeling compared to pad since my fingers need more time to travel, so I end up walking forward a little before I actually jump.

This is literally all I struggle with on keyboard. My finger cannot get to w quickly enough and it's really getting on my nerves, I'm almost ready to get back to controller. I know this really isn't the right thread for this question, but it's the only place I could ask.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 1 15:23:02 2014 No.12011784 >>12011782 >w What? Why aren't you using arrow keys? If I know i'm going to be high jumping I use index finger on down and middle finger on up.

Anonymous Tue Apr 1 15:53:35 2014 No.12011830

>>12011784
My right hand is a lot slower than the left, movement comes off a lot more natural on my left, same with stgs as well. I usually do the same with hj7, which works out good, but I dunno what to do with hj9. I was thinking ring finger on w, index on d and middle on s, but it feels really awkward to do in a real match. SpaceASD is really great for high jumping, but getting used to it is weird.

My play is beyond shit on the left hand.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 03:29:19 2014 No.12015074 >>11962842 Anyone have tips for life spring infinity from IN? I'm trying to achieve a perfect run on stage 6, but that single spell card keeps messing me up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 07:42:27 2014 No.12015329 >>12015074 The laser hitboxes take long to spawn. Abuse that. And use the term NMNB in future.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 08:26:27 2014 No.12015367 >>12015329 >use the term NMNB in future. What's the difference? Both get the same message across.

Anonymous Thu Apr 3 08:31:27 2014 No.12015370

>>12015367
To quote a dictionary, Perfect stands for having no mistakes or flaws. You most likely did not graze the every bullet on the screen, make no flaws in cancels or the spell bonus. In general, there is no perfect in the Touhou world.

Whereas No Miss No Bomb stands for exactly what your run is. It takes less time to type, too.

Using the term perfect gets your Youtube video more views, but makes some people displeased with you and has them not take you all that seriously.

Anonymous Thu Apr 3 12:07:39 2014 No.12015666

>>12015370
Please, literally everyone uses the term Perfect for No Miss No Bomb, even T used Perfect for all his videos before he made them unviewable.
Of course the term isn't used the same way as its dictionary definition, and neither are many words. No one actually expects a replay using the term Perfect to have every single bullet grazed and no flaws in cancels or spell bonus.
The people who get "displeased" by this term sound like they've got some sticks up their asses and need to stop being sticklers.

>>12015367
There is no real difference, use whatever you want and ignore the elitists.

Anonymous Thu Apr 3 12:46:48 2014 No.12015765

>>12015666
A lot of people use the term NMNB, including Japanese players.

T made the choice to name his Youtube videos perfect to get more views. He tends to say NMNB when speaking elsewhere.

In the end you are free to speak as you wish. If you want more attention in general and revelance in the eyes of those who don't play enough to know the terminology, call your play perfect. If you want the more committed players and IRC to accept you at the cost of losing attention from majority of the community, refer to your runs with the correct shorthands.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 13:55:53 2014 No.12016073 >>12015765 >If you want the more committed players and IRC to accept you at the cost of losing attention from majority of the community, refer to your runs with the correct shorthands. Are you guys honestly this fucking retarded?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 17:20:44 2014 No.12016872 >>12016073 >Are you guys honestly this fucking retarded? Yes.

Anonymous Thu Apr 3 17:33:30 2014 No.12016902

>>12016073
Are you? No player worth a damn uses the term "perfect". It's a scrub sign if anything, not only will the Western Elite sneer at you behind you behind your backs for not scoring, but they will consider you as jokes for using the term perfect, since the correct term is NN or NMNB.

Anonymous Thu Apr 3 17:40:00 2014 No.12016916

>>12016902
Problem was never even the terms, yes perfect is wrong more or less everyone knows that.

> Western Elite sneer at you behind you behind your backs for not scoring

This is the problem, you sound like some pathetic fucking 16 year old who seeks some kind of acceptance. It's just embarrassing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 17:55:15 2014 No.12016931 >>12016916 >pathetic fucking 16 year olds who seeks some kind of acceptance STG players/general

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 17:58:46 2014 No.12016941 >>12016916 Your face is embarrassing, faggot. If you can't handle the elite players not accepting you then you should just kill yourself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 18:02:15 2014 No.12016950 >>12016941 I don't even visit irc...

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 18:16:46 2014 No.12016973 >>12016916 All the good players are 12 year old Finnish/Swedish/German/Canadian boys, the older ones are mad because they can't be as good as the young ones.

Anonymous Thu Apr 3 18:51:00 2014 No.12017070

perfect has been understood to mean nmnb while capturing every card. in some games this carries an additional requirement, such as no border breaks in pcb. scoring is not part of the criteria.

perfect isn't an entirely accurate term, but it's much simpler to say and that's what we're left with until a better shorthand comes along. so if you don't like it, you could be helpful and propose something better instead of just stating the obvious that it isn't literally perfect.

tangentially, an appeal to acceptance (while of course being fallacious when used as an argument, as it was in recent posts) only works if the group you represent is one that people would want to be accepted into. acting like a prick isn't the best way to get folks to come to your side.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 19:26:10 2014 No.12017150 >>12017070 >if you don't like it, you could be helpful and propose something better NMNB?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 22:51:21 2014 No.12017512 Who cares, as long as it gets the message across to your target audience?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 4 00:33:06 2014 No.12017659 >>12015329 Thanks m8.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 4 01:36:22 2014 No.12017732 I've been playing Embodiment of Scarlet Devil on normal mode and I always seem to die at Cirno or Meiling now. Should I give up?

>>	Saegrimr !SHIELDM.mE Fri Apr 4 01:37:06 2014 No.12017736 >>12017732 Move on to another game, you're just gonna burn yourself out by slamming your face into a wall.

Anonymous Fri Apr 4 04:39:09 2014 No.12017978

>>12016973
I can guess who you mean except with German. There are no good German players.

It's also not a matter of the western elite accepting you. NMNB is simply the correct term. Perfect implies flawlessness (as stated above), so it's just as simple as that: incorrect.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 4 04:57:40 2014 No.12017995 >>12017978 >I can guess who you mean Who?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 4 05:01:24 2014 No.12018000 >>12017995 > inviting me to namedrop people.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 4 05:06:24 2014 No.12018006 >>12018000 You have all been namedropping for about two years and suddenly its taboo. Anyway on the topic of a good german player the name starts with a P

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 4 06:45:17 2014 No.12018105 >>12018006 > me > namedropping I think you mistake me for someone else. Nevertheless, your hint leaves me with about as much information. I can't think of a western player whose nick starts with a P, regardless of nationality.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 4 07:01:43 2014 No.12018126 >>12018105 I can think of Phar, who is retired. Anyway, calling your run perfect is pretty arrogant.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 4 07:53:58 2014 No.12018185 >>12018105 >>12017978 You think of yourself a bit too much.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 4 07:57:27 2014 No.12018187 >>12018185 ?? I've started playing Touhou last year and I've got trouble clearing normal modes. I'm pretty bad and I don't think I am thinking of myself a whole lot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 4 08:37:47 2014 No.12018223 >>12018187 oh wow way to brag about playing normal mode some of us cant beat first stage on easy, stop your elitist circlejerking

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 4 09:09:31 2014 No.12018266 File: 154 KB, 369x369, 1371737462792.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My goal is to finish the latest 2hu on lunatic without running out of credits, but Kagerou is just nuts - i barely make it to stage 4.

Anonymous Fri Apr 4 10:10:42 2014 No.12018330

>>12017732
It might be time for a break, or maybe some stage practice.

also stop using a shitty pad if you play pad, get a stick or a keyboard, or hell, even a good pad. I like the Saturn pad, even if it means I won't be as good as keyboard gods/goddesses.
>>12017978
I forgot to say Mexican boys too, but they're really secretive about their playing, so you hardly see them. ;_;

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 4 12:46:50 2014 No.12018523 >>12017978 A German player had the world record in Homura. He's still the only Westerner to ever hold a WR in an arcade shmup. :^)

Anonymous Fri Apr 4 12:50:47 2014 No.12018526

>>12015370
>>12015765
>>12016902
>>12016941
Fucking hell, this all just screams of IRC-circlejerk elitism.

Only a right asskisser would call their replay a NMNB or NN just to pander to the "Elite Players"/"Western Elite" (HAHAHA ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?) and pretend they're Japanese. Gurgle on those cocks more will you?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 4 12:51:47 2014 No.12018527 >>12018330 I prefer the LS 56 over keyboards,

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 4 13:20:52 2014 No.12018563 File: 865 KB, 1366x768, 1396256278832.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12018526

Anonymous Fri Apr 4 13:38:52 2014 No.12018586

>>12018527
How does a really good stick feel? I want to build a stick for console stg since I'm kind of on the fence about buying the XIM converter, I dunno how good it'll function for playing stuff other than FPS, but I know I despise using the 360 pad no matter what game I play.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 4 15:59:48 2014 No.12018805 finally beat 10D extra stage. just wanted to share with the thread.

Anonymous Fri Apr 4 21:14:41 2014 No.12019566

>>12018526
This attitude just screams SHITTER to me. Yes, we are serious you FUCKING RETARD, and GUESS WHAT, if you're not doing NMNB/NN runs or getting WRs then you are SHIT at these games and you should KILL YOURSELF out of existence you FUCKING SUBHUMAN SCUMBAG.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 05:21:59 2014 No.12020589 >>12019566 Who gives a shit about No Miss only thing that matters is score kiddo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 05:30:39 2014 No.12020597 >>12020589 Only autists play for score.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 06:20:54 2014 No.12020647 >>12020597 artists play for score

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 07:48:19 2014 No.12020709 >>12016902 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02ig9Up0PnM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFsztaUqUk8 your move

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 09:40:23 2014 No.12020823 >>12020709 Are you implying some Touhoufags are worth a damn? Link me real shmup players or I'll laugh at you.

Anonymous Sat Apr 5 10:58:54 2014 No.12020918

>>12020823
Those two are real shmup players.

They could probably chain all of ddp if they really wanted to, they could probably keep a full medal chain going through Garegga and maintain perfect rank management if they wanted to. Do you need a reminder that one of the best Batrider players in the West is a Touhoufag?

One of the best overall stg players in the West is also a Touhoufag, along with many other touhoufags whom are able to destroy any stg they want score-wise. Touhou is clearly the game you want to play if you want mad STG skills, it's the hardest for both survival and scoring.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 13:40:14 2014 No.12021371 >>12020918 >>12020823 God you are both obnoxious just shut the fuck up and play some games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 14:22:14 2014 No.12021473 >>12020918 Anybody can do anything if they want to. All that matters is actually doing it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 14:38:39 2014 No.12021518 File: 227 KB, 787x783, 4479097059_77889fe5ca_o.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's like it's 2011 again. How nostalgic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 15:25:43 2014 No.12021673 >>12021473 >Anybody can do anything if they want to. This kind of childish ideology is blissfully ignorant, but at the same time disgusting.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 16:07:31 2014 No.12021831 >>12021673 No, it's the truth. If you can't do something it's because you're not working hard enough. Why don't you try hard?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 16:32:32 2014 No.12021898 >>12021831 Cute. I heard if you jump off of a building hard enough, you'll grow wings and fly. Let me know how that works out, champ.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 6 00:31:11 2014 No.12023184 >>12020918 >nindella >real shmup player He doesn't even score!

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 6 00:39:56 2014 No.12023211 File: 295 KB, 640x480, 1396759189734.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I finally got to regulary beat the three stages; but Pathouli is giving me problems with her lasers. Tips?

Anonymous Sun Apr 6 05:49:16 2014 No.12023728

>>12023211
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS7oGN2-oq8#t=15m45s

Here is a good illustration on how to tackle the first non spell. The second one is similar. Even if you don't want to copy, seeing the non spells done properly like this can give you other ideas of how to tackle them. As you can see, the bullets are aimed and the lasers are static. You can sit at the bottom on the opposite side of the first laser, stream the bullets towards the laser, then head the other side once that laser has reached the middle point, where it disappears.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 6 13:30:58 2014 No.12024417 File: 2.86 MB, 320x240, pofv5.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 6 13:46:48 2014 No.12024437 d

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 6 20:48:47 2014 No.12025152 >>12025150 New thread. Sorry for the delay~

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